I thought I had broken-in my plasma enough, so I played some NHL 09 for a couple hours. The games go by pretty quick so the images really aren't even static for very long at all..

However I turned on my TV and noticed this..

You may have to shift your head a bit to see it, but there is mages stuck on the top left and bottom right.

I'm running scrolling more to try and remove it. It's been running for about an hour don't see much difference.

Should I return this thing or will it go away?

Are you talking about those red circles? No... those will not go away

What brand tv do you have? But ya, it will go away. It's just temporary IR and it doesn't even look that bad. Game on.

Are you talking about those red circles? No... those will not go away

lol :D

lol,

It's a Samsung PN50A400

Thanks for the fast responses guys.

lol,

It's a Samsung PN50A400

Thanks for the fast responses guys.

Sorry man I just had to do it :D but seriously it will go away just watch a couple of hours of TV and it will go away on it's own. I game like 6 hours a day playing fifa 09 cod4 and will sometimes get IR but after a couple of hours it goes away. Don't let this scare you

That's good to hear, do you have the same set? what settings do you have? I know fifa has some static images like NHL.

Went away after 20 minutes of scroll... Thanks guys!

Went away after 20 minutes of scroll... Thanks guys!

See we told ya... Burn In these days in almost non existent and unless you leave the game on pause for like 24 hrs then maybe you will get burn in but that would be your fault anyways. Oh I have the panasonic 85U and even though the Sammy's are know to be more prone to IR it's still a great set.

lol,

It's a Samsung PN50A400

Thanks for the fast responses guys.
Ah, a Samsung. :\

Unfortunately, it seems that Samsung plasmas are terrible when it comes to IR. Fortunately, it should disappear fairly quickly. Still, if IR appears so rapidly, I can imagine that it wouldn't be too difficult to cause burn-in.

While testing various displays with a friend on Sunday, we found that all of the Samsung plasmas had serious image retention from the source material that did not affect any of the other plasmas. Even our own tests, which left some static elements on screen for a bit, left traces of image retention. In addition to the ultra noisy picture (when viewed up close), the Samsung plasmas seemed as if they were manufactured with 4-5 year old plasma panels. I haven't seen dithering like that since the 2005 Panasonic plasmas while the IR issues are significantly worse.

Who manufactures the glass for these Samsung panels? Is it actually Samsung? My impression was simply that Samsung isn't putting a lot of effort into their plasma lineup and instead focusing on LCD.

Who manufactures the glass for these Samsung panels? Is it actually Samsung? My impression was simply that Samsung isn't putting a lot of effort into their plasma lineup and instead focusing on LCD.

Yes, Samsung manfactures their own panels.

Ah, a Samsung. :\

Unfortunately, it seems that Samsung plasmas are terrible when it comes to IR. Fortunately, it should disappear fairly quickly. Still, if IR appears so rapidly, I can imagine that it wouldn't be too difficult to cause burn-in.

While testing various displays with a friend on Sunday, we found that all of the Samsung plasmas had serious image retention from the source material that did not affect any of the other plasmas. Even our own tests, which left some static elements on screen for a bit, left traces of image retention. In addition to the ultra noisy picture (when viewed up close), the Samsung plasmas seemed as if they were manufactured with 4-5 year old plasma panels. I haven't seen dithering like that since the 2005 Panasonic plasmas while the IR issues are significantly worse.

Who manufactures the glass for these Samsung panels? Is it actually Samsung? My impression was simply that Samsung isn't putting a lot of effort into their plasma lineup and instead focusing on LCD.

So don't buy a Samsung plasma. There are many more happy customers who disagree with you.

I am happy with my A650, which has no issue with IR (I was very careful in the first 100 hours or so, but now I watch movies with black bars without worries). However, I read that the A400 is suspected to be last year's model, so the improved resistance to IR may not be incorporated in the A400.

So don't buy a Samsung plasma. There are many more happy customers who disagree with you.
I'm glad they are happy, but what I noticed isn't even really a matter of opinion. Those problems exist either way, it's simply a matter of whether or not they bother people. I was simply surprised is all as I was under the impression that the Samsung plasmas were supposed to be pretty impressive (based on what I've read around here). I don't actually mean to insult the buyers of these displays. I mean, afterall, they could have purchased a cheap LCD instead. :)

Still, when even an LG plasma from 2006 is capable of producing a smoother, noise free than a 2008 Samsung plasma, well, I have to raise an eyebrow. There's really no excuse.

I already own a Pioneer 5020fd, but that doesn't mean I simply "dislike" other brands either. I helped my buddy purchase a Panasonic plasma and the performance is pretty good (especially considering the great price). Samsung plasmas are even cheaper, really, and look reasonably good when viewing from a distance.

I upgrade fairly often and always consider various brands and technology, so I'm very open minded. I insisted we spend some time with the Samsung panels, actually. I simply didn't expect the results we received.