Does any manufacture have plans to manufacture a 70" flat panel in this decade that isnt $20,000??? STILL WAITING!!! I could care less about thin I need BIG!!!!

Sony KDL-70XBR3 (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=11040914) LCD is available. It will push you north of $30k.

No word yet on Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer, or LG on 70"+ sets. Going from 65" to 70" results in a 15%-16% difference in screen size. IMO, go Panasonic 65PF11UK, Panasonic 65PZ850, Sharp 65" 64U, or Samsung 63A650/760 before looking at 5" more in screen size.

Chris

I will not consider sharp Ill take your advice and look at the Pannys.......again.

The wall this thing is going to hang on is big thats why I want a 70" if I could see the overall measurements of the Panny i could figure out how it would look.

I didnt see any overall measurements or weight on Pannys site did I miss it?

IMO, go Panasonic 65PF11UK, Panasonic 65PZ850, Sharp 65" 64U, or Samsung 63A650/760 before looking at 5" more in screen size.Why?

I will not consider sharp Ill take your advice and look at the Pannys.......again.

The wall this thing is going to hang on is big thats why I want a 70" if I could see the overall measurements of the Panny i could figure out how it would look.You sound like you should get a front projector. A 120" screen for much lessss :D If you don't have room you can make it the distance you need.

I have the room, but I dont want a projector in there and the light is near impossible to control. Another thing is it gets used alot. The manufactures are lind of getting on my **** list.....Ive been waiting a long time for a 70+ panel thats not $20,000

Why?

b/c it results in a 15-16% in screen size difference and 70" screens are not available. If you believe you will see a difference in size to spend at least $20k or more then I say go ahead. Like coltsfreak18 mentioned a projector may be the best solution, but based on lighting conditions it may not be suitable for his application.

Chris

Im going to try to wait till next year to see whats available, then thats it...I need a new display my old Sony is starting to get a purple fog on the screen, shes about done.....been a great TV though!!

Im going to try to wait till next year to see whats available, then thats it...I need a new display my old Sony is starting to get a purple fog on the screen, shes about done.....been a great TV though!!

It sounds like you have the budget for $10k+ display. Why not look into a pair of 65PZ850's or 65PF11UK's...;) This would erase a 70" display in a heartbeat.

Chris

Chris,
Why a pair? Am I missing something? Where do I find the Panny specs?
Thanks
Jeff

What is the difference of the two pannys you listed?

Specs for the Panasonic TH-65PZ850U <<<Click Here >>> (http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/VIERA-Flat-Panel-HDTVs/model.TH-65PZ850U_11002_7000000000000005702) and the Panasonic TH-65PF11UK <<< Click Here >>> (ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/PBTS/brochures/S_TH-65PF11UK.pdf)

The 11UK is a monitor and are very pricy probably because on the commercial side of things Panasonic no longer has any competition. The 850 is a full blow TV, and is much less at there is plenty of competition on the TV side of things.

There are a few 71" LG for just under 10 g's. LG 71PY1M <<< Click Here >>> (http://us.lge.com/products/model/detail/tv%7Caudio%7Cvideo_plasma%20flat%20panel__71PY1M.jhtml)

The new sony KDL-70XBR7 are out but are 20g's <<< Click Here >>> (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665532063)

What is the main difference between monitor and full blown TV? I have a pretty decent system and dont use the displays speakers I just use it as a display. I run HDMI out of a Onkyo 9.8 if that matters.

No speakers, no turners, no stand, and limited input connections. Monitors also have no perks like sd card slot, usb port, wireless connections, ect ect ect.

In this case a person will be spending $1500 extra to get a Panasonic TH-65PF11UK monitor.

So your spending $1500 more to get less stuff that I dont think I need. All my components run into my Integra. Does it have a better picture or the same? If its the same picture quality, one might as well get the full blown TV as you could sell it easier. The LG on the other hand looks interesting, the only thing thats against it as far as Im concerned is its not a current model so how old school is it compared to the 09 displays coming out? How would it hold up to long hours of video games and movie watching ect? Is the power consumption off the scale? or not that bad. Just a thought, not a deal breaker. I need to get a few questions answered on the LG...pending the outcome of those....I could be looking for one.

Chris,
Why a pair? Am I missing something? Where do I find the Panny specs?
Thanks
Jeff

What is the difference of the two pannys you listed?

I mentioned this b/c we don't have any information on room size, budget, source material being use, etc...

With that said...

What is your budget on this display?
Which room and how big is the room going to be?
What is an ideal budget?
What source material are you going to use?
What is your seating position?

Depending on how these questions are answered a 63"-65" display may be plenty for your satisfaction...

I believe CP posted the specs on the PZ850 for you...

Chris

Why?

63"-65" for under $5k vs. $20k-$30k for 70" and over. :eek:

Chris

Room is 16' wide x 35' the sitting position is about at the 22' point. This living room also leads full width into a kitchen which has (2) 8' wide windows that are not covered. There is one 8' in the living room which has blinds. The main entry way into the house also leads into the living room and the light is not controllable from that location either. All I have on the wall that the display is on are two towers, center, and one sub. A 65" makes sence from what you are saying. I can spend what I want , but my personal feelings what should be spent on this display is around $7000 tops, I like good deals!!, wont pay MSRP. Source material: DTVHD, Bluray Movies, Playstation 3 Games, Xbox 360 Games, Oppo, PS2, probably a Wii by Christmas. This is our main TV and it gets used a lot for everything listed. Lots of gaming, lots of movies, lots of tv. Everything is HDMI connected that can be. Integra 9.8, B&W 803D, Matching center, 2- DD15 subs (1 right now loaned out) 7.1 channel set up.
Jeff

No problem at all. I just wanted to find out what type of room size and seating position requirements we were working with. I was being sarcastic on saying go with a pair of 65" displays, b/c we had no requirements to base our recommendations for you...;)

IMO, the 65PF11UK is the best option. You don't need the speakers and stand (unless wall mounting). I would add on a TY-FB8HM and this should give you a total of 4 HDMI inputs. This will be well under your budget. Biggest factor is that you will be able to adjust the settings, very similar to the 65PZ850U. This is Panasonic's pro/industrial display, in which will yield very good results, in terms of performance and picture quality.

If you don't prefer this option, then I would try the Samsung 63A650. This would be my second option. You can adjust temp/gamma settings and most calibrators tend to like this set b/c of its extensive picture control settings. You can almost get a pair of A650's under your budget.

Chris

Im going to look into those A650 also.....maybe a mid-way display between now and what I really want.
Thanks

I, too, would love to see a larger plasma display that does not break the bank. I am hoping that with Pioneer soon to be making their sets with Panasonic glass that Pio will have a 65" model. I recently bought a Pio 6020 which I am thrilled with, but I have a 73" Mitsu rear projection set that is about six years old which I would like to replace. The difference in screen area between the 60 and the 73 is huge. Even though a 65 helps close the gap somewhat, I appreciate what the OP is saying.

Of course, the weight of the set is approximately proportional to the area of the glass, and as sets get larger, I suspect problems start occurring with support of the glass, flexing, etc.

So your spending $1500 more to get less stuff that I dont think I need. All my components run into my Integra. Does it have a better picture or the same? If its the same picture quality, one might as well get the full blown TV as you could sell it easier.Prior to 2005, many consumers chose to buy PDP monitors because they were less expensive than PDP TVs, which included ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuner(s), speakers and on-board HDMI, component, composite interfaces. Those days are gone.

There is no inherent difference regarding the performance of a PDP monitor versus a PDP TV.

Since you are talking about the large Panasonic Commercial models, I just went to Radio City Music Hall last night for the Christmas Spectacular, and while on line down 52nd Street, I noticed all the displays on the wall were panasonics. I assume these were the commercial displays, and I think the 65" size. Some were vertical and horizontal, and they looked awesome, especially since I was less that 2' away from them. Just adding my $.02 in case he wanted to see them first hand. There was a bezel built over the displays, but I could just make out the Panasonic name underneath the bezel. Anyone know exactly which ones they are using? They really impressed me.

Prior to 2005, many consumers chose to buy PDP monitors because they were less expensive than PDP TVs, which included ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuner(s), speakers and on-board HDMI, component, composite interfaces. Those days are gone.

There is no inherent difference regarding the performance of a PDP monitor versus a PDP TV.

No inherent difference, maybe, but the monitors tend to be more flexible regarding input resolutions and overscan, and have more accurate color.

No inherent difference, maybe, but the monitors tend to be more flexible regarding input resolutions and overscan, Is this due to their design to support computer oriented applications?and have more accurate color.How much more accurate than my PRO-150FD? Are PDPs less accurate because of RF interference or do monitors have a better VP?

Is this due to their design to support computer oriented applications?

How much more accurate than my PRO-150FD? Are PDPs less accurate because of RF interference or do monitors have a better VP?

I don't know that the color will be any more accurate than the PRO-150FD. I just meant that the Panasonic professional models have better color than the standard Panasonic consumer models (other than the 800u, maybe).

Yes, they are more flexible with input resolutions because they are meant primarily to be used with a computer.

How many of the 09 models will be more energy effiicent? When are the new Pannys going to be available to us.

No inherent difference, maybe, but the monitors tend to be more flexible regarding input resolutions and overscan, and have more accurate color.

That's a generalization that certainly doesn't always apply. The current example is the Pioneer 151 vs the 141 (monitor). Although there are more adjustments on the 141, we have no indication the color is any more accurate.

That's a generalization that certainly doesn't always apply. The current example is the Pioneer 151 vs the 141 (monitor). Although there are more adjustments on the 141, we have no indication the color is any more accurate.

That is true of the Pioneers but not the Panasonics. I have repeatedly found the commercial Panasonics to be better performers in terms of color accuracy once properly calibtrated. I would always buy a commercial Panny over a consumer one for this very reason. The PQ out of a properly calibrated commercial Panny (by an expert using the service menu that is) is spectacular. I was watching the extras on the new X Files Blu-ray movie and it shows the film editor, Chris Carter and John Spotnik editing the film on a mac which was connected to a 50" commercial Panny. I am not surprised.

If one starts out with a 50" PDP and then upgrades to a 60" PDP, what comes next?