Just wondering if anyone owns any of the aforementioned TVs. My old man is having a problem receiving a video signal from his new Onkyo 806 to his Mitsu. (He owns a WS55511.) He can get audio but not the video, and we think we've narrowed it down to something with the R/G/B connection to the Mitsu's IN.

More details if I'm lucky to find someone w/ this TV, as I need to inquire about the connections on the rear of this TV.

Not sure if your model has this setting, but look in the user menu for switching between RGB-HV mode and YPbPr mode. You want YPbPr. Also, some sets have only one component input that does 1080i, the other component inputs only do 480p...

I don't own that model, but it only has one HD input. The DTV input can be configured as Component or RGB and will accept 1080i. I would use Component (YPbPr).

There are two other Component inputs, but they will only accept 480i or 480p.

Not sure if your model has this setting, but look in the user menu for switching between RGB-HV mode and YPbPr mode. You want YPbPr. Also, some sets have only one component input that does 1080i, the other component inputs only do 480p...

That's what I'm kinda thinking. I was perusing the manual online last night and focused on that. I'm gonna call him and emphasize he try to ensure those setup settings are correct. BTW, he went from a Yahama A/V receiver to an Onkyo. Does he need to "change receivers" in his TV's Net Command setup? I wouldn't think that would be necessary, but just wondering.

He's got his DirecTV HD DVRs connected via HDMI to the Onkyo 806. Because the Mitsu obviously doesn't have HDMI-INs, he then had to change his Onkyo's monitor out from HDMI to Component, which he did. Then he ran component cables from the Onkyo's COMPONENT MONITOR OUT to the TV's DTV IN-1.

I don't own that model, but it only has one HD input. The DTV input can be configured as Component or RGB and will accept 1080i. I would use Component (YPbPr).

There are two other Component inputs, but they will only accept 480i or 480p.

Yeah, that's what I noticed, which is why his component cables are currently connected to the "DTV IN-1" section on the far right of the TV's rear panel.

...Does he need to "change receivers" in his TV's Net Command setup?...

Only if he wants to use the mits remote to control the functions of the receiver.

Which he does not. He's got a Harmony 880. I made all the adjustments there and that's working fine. The sole remaining issue is his inability to get video. The total confusion on his part lies with his inability to figure out how to go into the TV's setup to change this R/G/B - YPbPr setting.

Which he does not. He's got a Harmony 880. I made all the adjustments there and that's working fine. The sole remaining issue is his inability to get video. The total confusion on his part lies with his inability to figure out how to go into the TV's setup to change this R/G/B - YPbPr setting.


On my WS-55313, it is Menu, Setup, Input Assignment, DTV, YPbPr. Keep hitting Menu to get back out.

Thanks, Billy. I think he finally figured out how to do that, but he STILL cannot get video. Just to be sure the problem isn't in the new Onkyo he just bought, I asked him to switch the connections back to his Yamaha. If he got video with that, then perhaps the Onkyo 806 is the problem. Well, he reconnected the Yamaha A/V--same issue: no video signal on his Mitsu TV.

I must be honest: he's at wit's end right now. He's had no TV since Saturday afternoon, which has really ticked off my mom and sister, because they were forced to watch the Bears game in their bedrooms. The main TV's been unusable for 24 hours already, and there's no end in sight it appears.

I don't know how much of this is my old man's fault, but to turn a seemingly simple thing into a huge mess like this isn't a rarity with him. Truthfully, though, this model of TV really sucks. It'd be a lot easier if he just shelled out the cash for a new HDTV, one with HDMI inputs.

As a test connect the component cables directly out of the HD DVR to the Tv (bypass the receiver).

On my WS-55313, it is Menu, Setup, Input Assignment, DTV, YPbPr. Keep hitting Menu to get back out.

Well, Billy, my old man gave up. He's convinced the problem is his Onkyo. I told him to do what you said above, but he swears that there is NO such "menu-->setup-->DTV-->YPbPr" adjustment capability. When he goes to a "menu," he goes to device menu; there's nothing dealing with inputs present.

He just keeps yelling at me that I don't know what I'm talking about, that there is no way to go to setup then input assignment, etc.

As a test connect the component cables directly out of the HD DVR to the Tv (bypass the receiver).

Good suggestion. I just called and told him to give that a try. I'll see where that leads.

Parents! If I become like mine, will somebody just shoot ME to put me out of MY misery? :p

Well, Billy, my old man gave up. He's convinced the problem is his Onkyo. I told him to do what you said above, but he swears that there is NO such "menu-->setup-->DTV-->YPbPr" adjustment capability. When he goes to a "menu," he goes to device menu; there's nothing dealing with inputs present.

He just keeps yelling at me that I don't know what I'm talking about, that there is no way to go to setup then input assignment, etc.

I guess the settings must be different between the XXX11 and XXX13 series. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Well, the problem's been addressed in the Onkyo 706 forum. He can't do what he wants to do because of the limitations of the Onkyo. He should just dump this TV. Because of it, he can't get 1080p, no HDMI, and can't use a Blu-Ray DVD player. Yet he keeps telling me how great a TV it is.

...He should just dump this TV. Because of it, he can't get 1080p, no HDMI, and can't use a Blu-Ray DVD player...

Is that you saying that, or him?

So the Onkyo can't do something as simple as pass a 1080i signal? HDMI is over-rated IMO. Just use component wires and optical audio. HD-DVR's don't do 1080p anyways (unless it's a special PPV download presentation), and (AFAIK) you can tell any bluray player to output 1080i. Unless he's really set on doing bluray dtsma/truehd bitstreaming.

I'm the one saying the TV is technologically backward. Heck, it's over 5 years old. To settle for 1080i Blu-Ray over 1080p is like choosing black and white over color. 1080p Blu-Ray is the single best HD medium currently available, much better than 1080i. The current Yamaha A/V he has (and upgraded to the Onkyo) contains no HDMI inputs and only has a couple component ones, not even enough for his multiple devices. Because upgrading to the Onkyo did not gain him any improvement at all, he ended up returning it and kept his current system intact.

Yes bluray is the best available. But it's really only better because of very high bitrate encoded video (and audio). Setting a bluray player to 1080i is not as bad as you say because 1080p has exactly the same number of lines of resolution as 1080i, the fields are just displayed at a different rate/order. Of course a crt-rptv can't realistically resolve every line like a dlp/lcd/plasma can, so a new display will look better when the source is true 1920x1080 (i or p). But when the source is an HD DVR, that really only outputs about 1300 lines worth of the picture, an older display is just as good. And on a 55" screen sitting more than 10ft away, telling the difference between 1920 lines and 1300 lines is going to be very difficult unless you have 10:10 vision.

Considering that he's more concerned about the Blu-Ray possibility, I'd say having an HDMI 1080p TV is the more obvious choice for him. His overall home theater setup is really being hamstrung by his current television.