I currently own a KV-34XBR800 (review link at bottom of page), I was considering upgrading to a plasma screen this year, but I'm not sure the video quality would be improved enough to justify the cost.

I currently own a Panasonic Bluray player, HD DRV box, Xbox 360 and a Wii.

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. I've been on this forum quite a bit in the past and recieved a lot of useful knowledge and have offered it back when I can. Thanks.


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I'm in the same position(different TV, but its a CRT)...But i'm pretty damn sure i dont want to upgrade to HD considering i'd get inferior color and motion with a Plasma or especially an LCD when compared to CRT.

To put it simple, i wont settle for anything less regarding color, motion and blacks. But for you, if you do want to go plasma, i'd suggest looking at the Panasonic 800u Plasma series.

Inferior color???? Inferior blacks????

Inferior color???? Inferior blacks????

Objection to color and black level, but no objection to motion characteristics? :p Maybe '09 panny and pio models will end the motion debate?

Objection to color and black level, but no objection to motion characteristics? :p Maybe '09 panny and pio models will end the motion debate?I can't object to something Ive never seen :) The current 2008 PDPs are capable of 900 lines of resolution with fast motion. The 2009 models will be capable of 1080 lines of resolution.

At any rate, I've never had any issues with motion on a CRT or PDP. However, I can say that I've seen and measured better colors on a PDP compared to a CRT with equal and/or superior overall black levels... including the XBR series :)

I currently own a KV-34XBR800 (review link at bottom of page), I was considering upgrading to a plasma screen this year, but I'm not sure the video quality would be improved enough to justify the cost.

I currently own a Panasonic Bluray player, HD DRV box, Xbox 360 and a Wii.

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. I've been on this forum quite a bit in the past and recieved a lot of useful knowledge and have offered it back when I can. Thanks.


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If your viewing content is primarily HD programming & Blu-Ray then you will be very satisfied with the Samsung 650 series in either the 46" or 52" screen.

But bear in mind as I assume you already know, any SD content being viewed on these 1080P LCD ,Plasma, etc. look absolutely pathetic in comparison to your existing CRT.

Regards, :)

Cool, thanks for all the advice. I think I'll stick with my CRT for now. I'll wait and see what the '09 models have in store... :)

What i ment was, i wont go HD unless i can get a display that will match a CRTs PQ regarding motion, color and blacks.....although i'm not too worried about black levels, since higher end HDTVs have near perfect blacks which are good enough for me.....Color and motion on the other hand are a different story.

Besides that, Plasmas still have dirty yellow-grey whites, the 'breaking in' is a huge annoyance(for me anyways) and the constant worry of burn in for gaming.:rolleyes: And all of that aside, you still dont get CRT motion and Color

Then there's LCDs with their annoying motion problems, artificial colors and weaker blacks....As far as i'm concerned both techs need to make some big advancments or i'll just wait for the Samsung OLED to roll out in 2010(hopefully) like they've stated.

What i ment was, i wont go HD unless i can get a display that will match a CRTs PQ regarding motion, color and blacks.....although i'm not too worried about black levels, since higher end HDTVs have near perfect blacks which are good enough for me.....Color and motion on the other hand are a different story.You still have not provided a sufficient definition of "color problems". I will be more than happy to provide you with xyY color points for a plasma that are all under a dE of 2 (1994 formula). Can you provide me with data from any consumer CRT that would be visibly superior to those numbers?

Besides that, Plasmas still have dirty yellow-grey whites,SMPTE-C and Rec709 white is defined as x.3127 y.3290 for D65. CRTs and plasmas are equally capable of achieving x.3127 y.3290. Are you saying that the CRTs would have brighter whites (designated as Y)? If so, can you provide data to backup that claim as I've seen none in the field?

the 'breaking in' is a huge annoyance(for me anyways) and the constant worry of burn in for gaming.:rolleyes:Exactly what do you think break-in is for?

And all of that aside, you still dont get CRT motion and ColorYou can keep you interlaced scanned CRT motion to yourself :) 2009 plasmas will be capable of 1080 lines of resolution during motion (a few 2008 models are capable of 900 lines of resolution). This will outpace any consumer CRT.

Samsung OLED to roll out in 2010(hopefully) like they've stated.In case you didn't know, Samsung isn't capable of putting out a reference product...first, second, or third generation :)

[QUOTE=D-Nice;15273690]You still have not provided a sufficient definition of "color problems". I will be more than happy to provide you with xyY color points for a plasma that are all under a dE of 2 (1994 formula). Can you provide me with data from any consumer CRT that would be visibly superior to those numbers?

Here's a better question, name one Panasonic or Samsung Plasma that can match a High end Sony Wega CRT in terms of color?

SMPTE-C and Rec709 white is defined as x.3127 y.3290 for D65. CRTs and plasmas are equally capable of achieving x.3127 y.3290. Are you saying that the CRTs would have brighter whites (designated as Y)? If so, can you provide data to backup that claim as I've seen none in the field?

Exactly what do you think break-in is for?

I've never actually broke-in a Plasma before, so you got me there. As for whites, i've heard people complaining about how Plasmas offer dirty yellow greyish whites compared to the whites that you'd get from an LCD. But every display is different.

You can keep you interlaced scanned CRT motion to yourself :) 2009 plasmas will be capable of 1080 lines of resolution during motion (a few 2008 models are capable of 900 lines of resolution). This will outpace any consumer CRT.

I'll believe it when i see it, but i hope you're right because that sounds awesome...Actually somebody in one of the Plasma Threads was mentioning how Pioneer will Achieve CRT Motion with their 2009 Plasma Line. Not exactly sure though, but hey i'm hoping....Actually i'm hoping Panasonic has achieved this, since Pioneer Plasmas are too bloody expensive.

In case you didn't know, Samsung isn't capable of putting out a reference product...first, second, or third generation :)

All i'm going by is based on what Samsung stated. Again, who knows, it's just talk... kind of like how Mitsu said LaserVue would sell for half the price of current high end HDTVs.:rolleyes: Again it's all talk, we'll just have to wait and see.

Here's a better question, name one Panasonic or Samsung Plasma that can match a High end Sony Wega CRT in terms of color? That's easy. Samsung PNxxA550, PNxxA650, and PNxxA760 series. Thier CMS controls are quite impressive and can nail either the SMPTE-C or REC 709 CIE color points.


I've never actually broke-in a Plasma before, so you got me there. As for whites, i've heard people complaining about how Plasmas offer dirty yellow greyish whites compared to the whites that you'd get from an LCD. But every display is different.Those nut jobs don't comprehend the definition of white and/or are speaking of displays with the color temp set to warm. They typically like whites with a color temp of 8500K and above. These are the type of whites you have seen in Electronic stores for decades.

That's easy. Samsung PNxxA550, PNxxA650, and PNxxA760 series. Thier CMS controls are quite impressive and can nail either the SMPTE-C or REC 709 CIE color points.

Ahh, i was actually going to nab a Samsung 50" 550 Plasma a while ago, but decided not to. And i'll admit, it looked really good in the store, the colors were really good....But the blacks could of been better. and then there's the Panasonic 800u Series, which i didn't really get a good look at, but apperantly they're better than the 550 series....well its blacks are aleast, don't exactly know about color though