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TBeasley
12-11-08, 10:41 AM
Hello all,

I have just finished hooking up my extended length HDMI cable and am having some issues. Surprise Surprise!

The Cable box will pass a perfect picture through the receiver to the TV in both of my receivers HDMI inputs with the receiver passing the final signal to the TV. The DVD player will not pass a signal through the receiver to the display through either of the receivers inputs. If I connect the DVD player directly to the TV with a short HDMI cable no problem the picture is fine.

So in my mind it is an issue with the DVD player not having the signal power to push the distance.

What options do you see?

Note the DVD player is returnable.

Are there DVD players known for having higher HDMI output than others?

Setup:
Scientific Atlantic 8300hd cable box connection HDMI -> receiver -> HDMI -> TV
Pioneer DV 410K DVD player Connection HDMI -> receiver -> HDMI -> TV
Receiver Pioneer Elite VSX 74 TXVi
HDMI cable Blue jeans cable BJC Belden Series-1 Bonded-Pair Cable 70’

Thanks in advacne for your input.

PS I did have extra cat run incase this happend.

KurtBJC
12-11-08, 11:32 AM
Are you trying to run the DVD player at an upconverted resolution, or is it 480p? If it'll work at 480p, there's no point in upconverting--your display does that for you anyhow...just a thought.

Kurt
Blue Jeans Cable (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/index.htm)

TBeasley
12-11-08, 12:44 PM
Kurt,

Not trying to up convert just use the HDMI switching on the receiver. The DVD player will only display if run over a short cable it will not display connected to the longer Blue Jean Cable. The cable box will display in any configuration your cable my cable the cheap cable that the cable guy gave me etc…...

By the way nice build quality on the cable seems to be working perfectly on the cable portion of my system. No artifacts or sparkles!

KurtBJC
12-11-08, 12:57 PM
I haven't seen any DVD players that won't drive signal 70 feet at 480p through a good cable--that's not to say there aren't some, though, as we have not tested anywhere near the whole range that are out there. There are also some sources which are apparently quite sensitive to cable capacitance on the DDC line--this, unfortunately, is always going to be high on a 70-foot cable, and generally pretty similar from one cable to another--and when that's the case, it can just stop the signal dead because it causes the handshake to fail. I would try out another DVD player and see what happens--it really ought to work, but this is the unpredictable world of HDMI here....

I'm glad it's working on the cable box--and no doubt at a higher resolution than 480p, too!

Kurt
Blue Jeans Cable (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/index.htm)

crutschow
12-11-08, 01:31 PM
I assume the long cable is between the receiver and the TV. So are you saying that a short cable connection from the DVD to the receiver does not work but a short connection to the TV does? If that's the case, then it may be a handshake problem between the DVD and the receiver. If the DVD works with a short cable to the TV it should also work with a short cable to the receiver. The reciever has it's own HDMI amp to drive the cable to the TV. Those problems can be difficult to solve.

TBeasley
12-11-08, 04:55 PM
Good point Curts,

I will move the receiver closer to the TV tonight and test the theory. If that’s the case I will return the DVD player and look for another. It does however strike me as being a little odd that two Pioneers (the DVD player and the Receiver) would have issue with the handshake?

Anyone else have some ideas?