I am definately thinking about it. Probably an SVS Ultra... or should I still consider the ULS 15? Hmmm....

I bought myself a Epik Tower and an HSU MBM-12 for Halloween/Christmas. I AM my own Santa!

I would get the SVS PB13 Ultra;)

I treated myself to an SVS PB13-Ultra in piano black...got it this week. All I can say is :eek::eek::eek:

The Epik Conquest offers slightly more output than the SVS PB13 Ultra if you can swing the larger footprint.

If not the PB13 is a highly reviewed sub and is very close. I'd recommend it over the ULS-15 just based upon the information I have seen regarding it. Great sub performance from a not as large package.

Already did, I got my second ULS-15. I told my wife she got it for me 2 days before it arrived. She laughed, what a women.

My second Ultra was an early Christmas gift this year. I got Ultra #1 last Christmas (Ultras were still rather new then).

I just received my christmas sub yesterday, an mfw 15. Now I'm trying to get santa to let me order another one. If not, I'm still in audio bliss.

I got my MFW-15 for Christmas also....

Really completed the new system..

My second Ultra was an early Christmas gift this year. I got Ultra #1 last Christmas (Ultras were still rather new then).

Was the one you got last year a 13 inch driver?

Congrats on everyone who got their Christmas gift early:D.

And keep the replies coming. ;)

Was the one you got last year a 13 inch driver?

Yes. I'm running dual PB13Us now.

Did that last xmas - got myself an Aperion S-8 APR. Pretty happy with it and no upgrade-itis, at least not so far! :-)

I am getting a few.....

2 - Maelstrom-X 18" drivers....
2 - Audiopulse 15" Revo drivers
1 - TC-Sounds 15" TC-3000 driver

Boxes are almost finished, it should be a good Christmas... !!!!

I'm getting my whole home theater setup for Christmas...or I should be honest and say that my gf and I are getting it. It's our gift to each other..and it was her idea. :)

Onkyo TX-SR876
Infinity Primus 362's (floor standers)
Infinity Primus PC 350 (Center)
ED A2-300 (Sub)
(already have my Advent Heritage H-200's for the side speakers)

While the sub is not the scale that some (read: most) of you guys are getting, I think it should be plenty good :)

Yep. Canton ergo AS 650.2 SC. Cherry finish.

Count me in. MFW-15 delivering on the 17th.:D

Heh, I just got a Velodyne DD-10, to replace a Sunfire True Sub, which kept dying.

But come to think of it, NOW I want something for Christmas:-)

Got upgraditis earlier this year. Started by swapping my old 32" Sony CRT for a plasma in the family room, then convinced my wife that our small Energy speakers needed some bass, so I moved my old 10" DefTech subwoofer from my basement theater room, further convincing my wife that I could save her the grief of buying me a Christmas present this year by having me pick up a new sub. The old DefTech (which I bought in 1999 when we lived in a small townhouse) has been replaced by a REAL sub - an HSU VTF HO with the Turbo for ultra low extension. I have only had it for two weeks, but I had no idea what I was missing out on. The HSU literally shakes my entire house. I just watched Kung Fu Panda with my kids today, and the scene where Po defeats the bad guy (forgot his name) with the finger trick really brought a smile to my face. Merry Christmas to me!

I'm working on it. It's been difficult picking the right sub for my HT for less than $1k. My Sunfire MKIV has been great for the last 7 years and I want a good sub to replace it since it's been getting random crackle and pop noise while not in use for the last several months. I decided I want Epik Castle, but found out they build to order and won't get if for a month or more. May go ahead and order the HSU VT3.3 or the AV123 MFW-15. What do you guys think I would be more happy with?

Just got the SVS PC12 Plus.

Yes. I'm running dual PB13Us now.

What kind of speakers are those as your mains? And how many times has the little bonzai tree fallen of the Ultras? :D

I'm working on it. It's been difficult picking the right sub for my HT for less than $1k. My Sunfire MKIV has been great for the last 7 years and I want a good sub to replace it since it's been getting random crackle and pop noise while not in use for the last several months. I decided I want Epik Castle, but found out they build to order and won't get if for a month or more. May go ahead and order the HSU VT3.3 or the AV123 MFW-15. What do you guys think I would be more happy with?

Since you have been managing with your Sunfire for the past several months with its random crackle and pop noise, you could just wait the extra couple months for your real first choice, the Castle.

That is what I would do.

I'm working on it. It's been difficult picking the right sub for my HT for less than $1k. My Sunfire MKIV has been great for the last 7 years and I want a good sub to replace it since it's been getting random crackle and pop noise while not in use for the last several months. I decided I want Epik Castle, but found out they build to order and won't get if for a month or more. May go ahead and order the HSU VT3.3 or the AV123 MFW-15. What do you guys think I would be more happy with?

They are both very good subs and either could make you happy, but I'd go with the HSU because you would be assured of excellent quality control.

Since you have been managing with your Sunfire for the past several months with its random crackle and pop noise, you could just wait the extra couple months for your real first choice, the Castle.

That is what I would do.

I've just upgraded to Panasonic BD-55 Blu-ray a month ago and been enjoying movies to a new level with HD and HD-MA audio that's got me caught up in the upgrade bandwagon.:eek:

Also this is the time of year I actually us our HT room a lot to stay out of the cold winter and am lacking patience. I want to enjoy it before I spend my free time help with youth sports next spring. A month or more to wait for the Castle may kill me. I've would been fine if I haven't visit this site! lol

They are both very good subs and either could make you happy, but I'd go with the HSU because you would be assured of excellent quality control.

I talked to a rep from HSU on last Friday and they reccomend the VTF-3 MK3. Should I consider the Turbocharger too if I go this route?

Since you have been managing with your Sunfire for the past several months with its random crackle and pop noise, you could just wait the extra couple months for your real first choice, the Castle.

That is what I would do.

I would as well. The output of the Epik subs is among the best of any available today. I am extremely happy with my Tower and wouldn't choose another brand without first hearing something in a side by side comparo. In a 10,000 cu. ft. room the Tower has exceeded my expectations. I can't wait to move into a house with a dedicated room. :D

I'm getting my first Dayton Titanic MK III (15")!

getting my pb12+ new next week!!!
Cant wait!!!

I was going to get one, but then i'd only have 70 bucks left over, I was only going to try and buy a "19" LCD anyway because my CRT is heavy, but my grandmother took $60.00 Mother took $100.00 from me :mad:.

Had $449.99

TV was. $199.99 @ BB

it was either that or a blu ray player. $189.00@ wally land I already have about 500 DVD's anyway.

Subwoofer is $99.99, I am not an audiophile and I don't want to kill my parents with a sound cannon lol. I could get a used sub for cheaper... but oh well

Sony DVD player is $45.00 there is a $79.00 one but my Tv is only SD and wont do 1080P so the $79.00 player would be a waste. anything is better than my Phillips, which has so many annoying quirks.

I'm getting one......

just not sure if it's gonna be a SVS PB13 ultra,

or a

HSU ULS-15.....

I don't really care about every last db of output....

want it great for music, and good for movies....
(my wife hates loud bass during movies... )
maybe I'll trade her in.... :)

anyway.....is a sealed sub generally better for music ?

room is big... 16 x 25 with 9 1/2 foot ceilings...
Focal 1037be speakers crossed over at 60Hz... or 80 HZ....

HSU or SVS.... that is the question....

I'd like to order the coming week....



Shelly

I am Santa and his helpers. Bought two Mach 5 18.2, BFD and a EP2500. Throw in some glue, paint and mdf and I have got 2 great sounding sealed DIY subs. Wife isn't pleased but hey, after 28 yrs of marriage..is she ever?

I talked to a rep from HSU on last Friday and they reccomend the VTF-3 MK3. Should I consider the Turbocharger too if I go this route?

I don't think the turbo adds much to the mix. I have the 3.3 and it is a great sub with fantastic support.

I'm getting one......

just not sure if it's gonna be a SVS PB13 ultra,

or a

HSU ULS-15.....

I don't really care about every last db of output....

want it great for music, and good for movies....
(my wife hates loud bass during movies... )
maybe I'll trade her in.... :)

anyway.....is a sealed sub generally better for music ?

room is big... 16 x 25 with 9 1/2 foot ceilings...
Focal 1037be speakers crossed over at 60Hz... or 80 HZ....

HSU or SVS.... that is the question....

I'd like to order the coming week....



Shelly

I think I may have read that before about sealed subs being better for music, but I think ported subs can do just fine depending on the manufacturer. I just got a SVS PC-13 Ultra. I have not had it more than 3 days yet but it seems fine so far. I have used it more for movies/TV so far than just listening to a music CD or something. But this is another thing to consider about the Ultra, it is ported, but they give you port plugs too. So you can change it into a sealed sub by plugging all three ports. It is pretty versatile in that way. Plus, SVS makes a great sub anyhow. Seems to me you could not go wrong. I cannot speak to the ULS-15.

MFW here. Wife got it early for me so I've had it a couple weeks. Great upgrade from my PB10 (while it worked at least).

Wifey bought me an H-100, delivery 12/24
What a gal !

I'm getting one......

just not sure if it's gonna be a SVS PB13 ultra,

or a

HSU ULS-15.....

I don't really care about every last db of output....

anyway.....is a sealed sub generally better for music ?

Some people still subscribe to this theory, but the general accepted opinion today is that ported subs can sound just as good as sealed ones. I'd go for output and headroom over a sealed design any day.

If I haven't already, I want to thank everyone for their input on recommendations in my search for a new power subwoofer.

I decided to take my chances with the AV123 MFW-15. I ordered it last Monday and will be getting it the day before X-mas.:D

I kept trying to contact Epik on several occasions earlier last week and it seems they are on vacation for the holidays? It's too bad because I was going to order from them, but because I couldn't contact them I decided against it.

I picked up a couple X-mas gifts for my self.

Ordered a A2-300 a week ago- Still awaiting woodwork...hurry up ED!!!
and i just recieved a new pair of Polk M50's a couple days ago. Huge improvement from my R30's that i just had sitting on the floor :)

I kept trying to contact Epik on several occasions earlier last week and it seems they are on vacation for the holidays? It's too bad because I was going to order from them, but because I couldn't contact them I decided against it.

Nope that's probably not the case. They just never answer phone calls, respond to voicemails, or answer emails. Their communication is absolutely atrocious. I LOVE my Epik Tower, but I abhor their customer communication. I was only able to get Karen and Chad on the phone once each out of probably 20 calls and they never responded to either of my 2 emails; I had sent one to each.

Were you going to order a Conquest? That's the only sub they're currently taking orders for. If so I am surprised you went with a MFW-15 as opposed to an SVS PB13 Ultra or something else similar. Either way I think you will love the choice :D The MFW-15 is a very respectable subwoofer and should put many smiles on your face!

-Chad

Nope that's probably not the case. They just never answer phone calls, respond to voicemails, or answer emails. Their communication is absolutely atrocious. I LOVE my Epik Tower, but I abhor their customer communication. I was only able to get Karen and Chad on the phone once each out of probably 20 calls and they never responded to either of my 2 emails; I had sent one to each.

Were you going to order a Conquest? That's the only sub they're currently taking orders for. If so I am surprised you went with a MFW-15 as opposed to an SVS PB13 Ultra or something else similar. Either way I think you will love the choice :D The MFW-15 is a very respectable subwoofer and should put many smiles on your face!

-Chad

I was considering the Castle. I thought about the SVS Ultra and others, but wanted to keep a budget around $1K. I already received new cables from Blue Jeans, just waiting on the MWF. My Sunfire MKIV has served me well. I hope the MWF-15 outperforms.

She doesn't know it yet, but I am getting another pair of 18's to compliment the pair of 18's already in the system.. :D

She doesn't know it yet, but I am getting a pair of 15's to compliment the pair of 18's already in the system.. :D

Rock the Casbah! :D

Should be getting my PB13U tomorrrow! Cant wait.:D

Well.....

I think I'll give the 13 Ultra a try due to the great reviews of everyone here, and the flexibility of plugging some of the ports, or running it sealed.....

I don't think I've ever read here about a person not happy with the 13 Ultra.....

gtoboss................

How long did it take from order to delivery ?

Thanks

Shelly

Well.....

I think I'll give the 13 Ultra a try due to the great reviews of everyone here, and the flexibility of plugging some of the ports, or running it sealed.....

I don't think I've ever read here about a person not happy with the 13 Ultra.....

gtoboss................

How long did it take from order to delivery ?

Thanks

Shelly

Go for it! :D I ordered my PC-13 Ultra on Sunday 12/14 and it arrived on Wednesday 12/17 (only I was not home to receive it :confused:) so I actually received it on Thursday 12/18. i wasn't sure how to go about getting it out of the box, but that is another thread for another time :rolleyes:;).

I am Santa and his helpers. Bought two Mach 5 18.2, BFD and a EP2500. Throw in some glue, paint and mdf and I have got 2 great sounding sealed DIY subs. Wife isn't pleased but hey, after 28 yrs of marriage..is she ever?
If she is happy that's when you need to be careful..:eek::)

I think I'm going to get the 8 inch energy esw subwoofer.It problably will match my athena ls 300s.

Yeah I’ve just brought my sub should take me 100 years, to pay off. :D

http://www.bellona.no/imagearchive/Tambov.jpg

Yeah I’ve just brought my sub should take me 100 years, to pay off. :D

http://www.bellona.no/imagearchive/Tambov.jpg

That was good! 100 years you must be a wealthy man.

That was good! 100 years you must be a wealthy man.

Well I have to payback the 500 lone sharks, each 300% interest.:eek:

No just kidding around.:D

Merry Christmas

gtoboss................

How long did it take from order to delivery ?

Thanks

Shelly

I ordered it late on 12/18 and it got delivered today, I'm in North Louisiana. I have a little problem that is getting resolved though as I ordered a Piano Black and received a fine text. black.

Yeah I’ve just brought my sub should take me 100 years, to pay off. :D

http://www.bellona.no/imagearchive/Tambov.jpg100 years, are you kidding? That's a Russian sub. You can get those on eBay for $14 plus shipping. BTW, that one looks to already be 100 years old.

I like the guy in the coning tower. Looks like he is installing a window.

100 years, are you kidding? That's a British sub. You can get those on eBay for $14 plus shipping. BTW, that one looks to already be 100 years old.

I like the guy in the coning tower. Looks like he is installing a window.

Its Russian you know...

From russia with love I fly to you
Much wiser since my goodbye to you
I've travelled the world to learn
I must return from russia with love

I've seen places, faces and smiled for a moment
But oh, you haunted me so
Still my tongue tied, young pride
Would not let my love for you show
I case you say no

To russia I flew but there and then
I suddenly knew you'd care again
My running around is through
I fly to you, from russia with love

You can tell by looking at the stern I mean I’m no submarine expect but I’ve seen The Hunt For Red October and that is Russian.

Its Russian you know...

I know. I've corrected my post. I should have seen it was too modern and sophisticated to be a British sub.:)

I was thinking about technical tolerances like submarines that have crush depths that I believe are classified. Subs each have there own limit to where it can or can’t go before it is busted in.

I know. I've corrected my post. I should have seen it was too modern and sophisticated to be a British sub.:)

Hey, hey, are you mocking our British navy it’s the best in the world. :p

Now that is British Sub! H.M.S. Astute

http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/02/18/hms10c.jpg

I’m fully impressed!

http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=4041&pid=11935

LOL "4,200 Weetabix" I bet this crew eats its Weetabix for breakfast and dinner that’s why we’re the best in the world.

JBL,

Sir, you are talking about submarines in an audio forum. You have your subs confused my friend.

JBL,

Sir, you are talking about submarines in an audio forum. You have your subs confused my friend.

I like my subs with fried onions and hots :):eek:

JBL,

Sir, you are talking about submarines in an audio forum. You have your subs confused my friend.

No I don’t think so a sub is sub. And I like the idea of black rubber tiles placed around the hull hmmm, I might try that approach.:p I need to hide my sub from detection from the Area-51 sonar beam. :D

I like my subs with fried onions and hots :):eek:

Oh, please you’re making me feel hungry. I made a nice chicken pasta salad yesterday afternoon and your giving me the Monster Munch attack. :D

Just picked up my MFW-15 off the AV123 forum classifieds. I'm not sure if the wife likes it yet, but she did not come with me to audition it before i bought :)

Just picked up my MFW-15 off the AV123 forum classifieds. I'm not sure if the wife likes it yet, but she did not come with me to audition it before i bought :)

I guess you’ll be humping that sub for a few nights looking for the best location within the room. Don’t be fooled with the floor try placing something underneath it to raise it off the floor a bit, it will make a huge difference. Room modes suck. :D

what am i gaining by raising the height of the sub? And what do you suggest I use to raise it?

I'll be ordering 4 of the AE IB15s in a week. I already got a Crown XLS802D, a Shure DFR11EQ and 2 sheets of MDF. Should be a fun build!

I think my cat wants to be a submarine captain? He keeps trying to climb though the port hole, that’s before I go [hisss] and he climbs out backwards. :D

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=127543&d=1230082440

what am i gaining by raising the height of the sub? And what do you suggest I use to raise it?

You’ll see when using the SPL db meter with spot frequency sine wave that you can reduce the dips, give it try.

I think my cat wants to be a submarine captain? He keeps trying to climb though the port hole, that’s before I go [hisss] and he climbs out backwards. :D

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=127543&d=1230082440

:eek:

how about some of these on the inside of the tube, just hate to see the kitty in there when you are playing your subs loud :eek:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Image-Chicken_wire.jpg/589px-Image-Chicken_wire.jpg

:eek:

how about some of these on the inside of the tube, just hate to see the kitty in there when you are playing your subs loud :eek:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Image-Chicken_wire.jpg/589px-Image-Chicken_wire.jpg

Chicken wire LOL he might cut himself on that no I’ll have keep [hissing] until he gets to big to crawl though it.

I like your tabby cat. Laying there lazy catching some cat naps.:)

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff172/slowcarIX/DSC01519.jpg

I have to switch back to the other kitty litter this paper litter is driving me nuts! My kitten is sticking his paws in it every 5 sodden minutes and trammelling it around the flat making a mess, because its sticking to his black fur coat like static.

I think he’s going though a phase shift change, I mean he likes it, it drives him nuts because the paper keeps sliding backwards after he’s made a spot to pee or crap in.

Is there a training video that shows how to train the cat to use the bog I seen cats on youtube using the bog, now that is dead funny. :D

Oh, by the way its not 7.4 because the LFE.1 is playing the same signal that’s like saying Baby Boom is Dolby 4.2 where two tracks are playing the same signal on channels 2 and 4 otherwise know as the Boom channel with (Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1977). But you call it 7.4 if that confuses anyone else.:D

What’s the frequency response like over the seating area uniform ±2 or so db?

Nice arrangement have you also tried mounting them on top not to make a wall of subs but if you’ve noticed that the tone might be greater at several frequencies than the other matching sub or have you nailed it.

I think my cat wants to be a submarine captain? He keeps trying to climb though the port hole, that’s before I go [hisss] and he climbs out backwards. :D

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=127543&d=1230082440

Thats the most common source of port noise. :p

I like your tabby cat. Laying there lazy catching some cat naps.:)

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff172/slowcarIX/DSC01519.jpg

I have to switch back to the other kitty litter this paper litter is driving me nuts! My kitten is sticking his paws in it every 5 sodden minutes and trammelling it around the flat making a mess, because its sticking to his black fur coat like static.

I think he’s going though a phase shift change, I mean he likes it, it drives him nuts because the paper keeps sliding backwards after he’s made a spot to pee or crap in.

Is there a training video that shows how to train the cat to use the bog I seen cats on youtube using the bog, now that is dead funny. :D

Oh, by the way its not 7.4 because the LFE.1 is playing the same signal that’s like saying Baby Boom is Dolby 4.2 where two tracks are playing the same signal on channels 2 and 4 otherwise know as the Boom channel with (Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1977). But you call it 7.4 if that confuses anyone else.:D

What’s the frequency response like over the seating area uniform ±2 or so db?

Nice arrangement have you also tried mounting them on top not to make a wall of subs but if you’ve noticed that the tone might be greater at several frequencies than the other matching sub or have you nailed it.

why not use the conventional bentonite clay litter...?

just changed it in the sig. its 7.(1x4)...hows that? :D

fr...i dont know. i can move around my listening spot and the pressurization is very uniform/intense. I would guess it will be subsonic as my drywall behind me is coupling to the cone movement (hulk acoustic cannon scene), quite scary to feel a wall flex! :eek:

i tried it with several arrangement and putting the subs lined up seem to produce the most uniform pressurization in the square room. Had the subs behind the couch and feeling was very unatural as pressurewaves can be felt coming from behind. With them in the frontstage - it adds a whole new sensation to the soundstage - pressure waves coming from the same direction as the LCR.

I got a pair of ULS-15's in piano finish for an early Xmas. Totally impressed and am blown away everyday I play my system. So far it's the best early Xmas present ever.

Didn't get a sub for Christmas, but I did pick up a used ED A7S-450 as my day after Christmas special :)

I guess I've been a good boy this year..... got a complete system for my living room!

got a pair of Mirage Omnisat V2 FS front tower and CC center from my fiance! then i bought the Omnisat Sat surround and a Velodyne SPL800 and Onkyo 606 for myself. :D it's quite a big step up from my 5yrs old Sammy HTIB! but again, it's only use for TV and music. we save all the movie viewing in the HT. ;)

Just picked up a b-stock MFW-15 in satin black from av123 for $359... CRAZY good deal, i'm so excited! Merry Christmas to me!