View Full Version : Are you happy with XM/Sirius Changes, Actual Poll


Pat6366
12-15-08, 11:29 AM
Thought it would be nice to have an actual poll that is easy to track on hapiness with programming changes.

timjohnson1717
12-15-08, 12:28 PM
Not only do the programming stations dump some great channels, all the channels are becoming more compressed to fit all this extra nonsense. XM used to be hands down the greatest service available, now if i was paying the bill i would shut it off.

SledBC
12-15-08, 01:11 PM
I have 3 Sirius subscriptions and 1 XM and I am disgusted at the changes. I'm going to cancel my XM at the least

AbMagFab
12-16-08, 10:14 AM
You're missing an option - XM and Sirius subscriber, and happy/unhappy.

I subscribe to both:
- XM for my car, since it's integrated and there's no way to convert it to Sirius (Acura MDX with tech package)
- Sirius for streaming, since the XM streaming is so sucky, and barely works with devices like the SqueezeBox or Sonos.

I'm happy with the changes, and it's nice to finally get Stern in my car, and the same music across both systems. There was so much redundancy, with very little real difference.

I'd prefer these companies survive, so if these ultimately minor changes make the difference, then all is good. I can never listen to terrestrial radio again, and all the commercials, and the lousy quality, and the limited selection, etc. etc. etc.

Raizer
12-16-08, 11:06 AM
I canceled my xm service a couple of months back due to billing issues. Today I received an email ad for the lifetime subscription and considered buying back in since I still have all of the stuff.

CENSORED?!?!?!?!

Why in the world would I pay to listen to censored music? I have FM and HD radio that are both free. I don't buy my CD's at Walmart and I won't be buying XM anytime soon. Censored Hip-hop? You might as well listen to silence. As far as I can tell they ahve also either dropped Squizz or changed it to Octane. Either way, it was the only station I listened to and I listened because they played the music the way the artists created the songs. I can't believe the castrated the best thing to happen to music since MP3s. So, why did they drop all the XL stations?

bioshacker
12-16-08, 02:10 PM
I'm very happy.

But I pretty much only listen to Sirius XMU, so line-up changes didn't effect me.

WizarDru
12-16-08, 04:23 PM
I'm very happy.

But I pretty much only listen to Sirius XMU, so line-up changes didn't effect me.
I'm assuming then that you're a Sirius subscriber who enjoyed Left of Center, because the current programming is nothing like XMU, especially now that they've fired Billy Zero and Tobi.

Pat6366
12-18-08, 12:41 PM
bump to keep at top

lohertz
12-18-08, 02:17 PM
I have Sirius and just can't stand how they changed the format of The Beat. I know it was subtle, but I really did like the way it was. I called to cancel Sirius and they gave me 3 months free service. I'll take it and cancel in 3 months.

BPM is okay, and is listenable, but I pay for this, and if I don't like it, I'm not going to pay for it. I usually stream stuff at work anyways. My wife drives the car with Sirius in it. I usually listen to the sports talk radio in the car anyway. Living in the Chicago area I get just about everything I need OTA.

Can't say that I didn't see it coming, but it does look like they did try and keep the best of both worlds.:o

Hardtail67
12-22-08, 10:50 AM
I am very disappointed! I keep tuning into Deep Tracks hoping it will be a good as the Vault used to be. Buzzsaw is gone, Lithium is changing, and I keep hearing about music censorship. This is very bad.

It is still better than anything on terrestrial radio, I guess that is why I keep hanging around. And Stern.:D

RAVEN56706
12-22-08, 12:03 PM
i dont mind the changes. i listened to backspin but it sucked for awhile... not enough 90's music...

Steeb
12-22-08, 12:38 PM
None of the above. I'm a Sirius customer and couldn't care less about the changes. I neither like nor dislike them. I joined Sirius for the Stern Show, so as long as that remains the same, I'm a happy camper. The wife hasn't noticed anything different about the channels she listens to, so overall, it hasn't affected us in the slightest.

I didn't vote in the poll because you (the OP) didn't include an option that fit my situation.

electrictroy
12-22-08, 02:52 PM
I didn't vote in the poll because you (the OP) didn't include an option that fit my situation. Vote in the other poll. It has an option for people who don't notice any difference.

Steeb
12-22-08, 05:04 PM
Vote in the other poll. It has an option for people who don't notice any difference.

The other poll was never set up at all (which is why this one exists at all.) If you really wanted people to vote, you should have taken the time to create the poll. And really, does it matter? I've stated my opinion here - what's the point of posting the exact same thing in the thread you started?

Pat6366
12-22-08, 05:33 PM
None of the above. I'm a Sirius customer and couldn't care less about the changes. I neither like nor dislike them. I joined Sirius for the Stern Show, so as long as that remains the same, I'm a happy camper. The wife hasn't noticed anything different about the channels she listens to, so overall, it hasn't affected us in the slightest.

I didn't vote in the poll because you (the OP) didn't include an option that fit my situation.I (the OP)guess I thought those who were ambivalent regarding the changes would vote positively towards the current programming since they are still happy with the service.

RADEN305
12-22-08, 07:41 PM
I was extremely disappointed when they removed Backspin (and The Strobe, to a lesser extent). I e-mailed/called and they credited back the three months left on my subscription. Fortunately, they listened to the customers' complaints and they're bringing back these channels next month. Awesome news for me. I will be renewing my subscription.

adrman
12-22-08, 08:23 PM
Sirius subscriber. I really hate the loss of The Vault and Disorder. Deep Tracks and The Loft are poor substitutes. I know Meg is on Spectrum in the afternoons, but she still sticks to the playlist. If I hear Snow Patrol one more time..... :mad: About the only music programming I still really enjoy is Lou Reed's NY Shuffle on The Loft, Saturday nights. That, and I still listen to Stern in the am. I've tried to be open minded about the new lineup, but after 30 or so days now, it's really not working out for me.

mercury
12-22-08, 09:55 PM
Dont like the changes at all to my rock stations.

deep tracks sucks monkey balls and ac/dc blows monkey balls...
im hoping Boneyard can prove something was good music wise on XM....

led zep and stern + the dog and ch14 and ch15 are keeping me happy...(thats zero xm stations)

robdam1001
12-22-08, 11:03 PM
Changes to Sirius suck IMO... No more Boombox 34.

STEELERSRULE
12-22-08, 11:23 PM
I (the OP)guess I thought those who were ambivalent regarding the changes would vote positively towards the current programming since they are still happy with the service.

This is what I did, since I still have Sirius. I did downgrade from 1-year prepaid to month to month, but that has to do with the really shaky financial future of the company.

If they get away a little of my money, I won't be as mad. If they went bellyup, and got a full year of prepaid money, then I would be ticked.

CoreyM
12-22-08, 11:49 PM
led zep
happens to be programmed by Lou Brutus who was one of XM's best and is now having his talents completely go to waste on single artist channels.

electrictroy
12-23-08, 12:47 PM
If you really wanted people to vote, you should have taken the time to create the poll. I didn't realize I could create a poll. I thought only moderators could do that.

barbie845
12-23-08, 02:39 PM
happens to be programmed by Lou Brutus who was one of XM's best and is now having his talents completely go to waste on single artist channels.

XM did have a talented crew of programmers. Many of their channels were very professionally done.

Oh well, more and more it looks( and sounds) like I am going to take the Slacker plunge.

jschefdog
12-23-08, 03:23 PM
I didn't realize I could create a poll. I thought only moderators could do that.
Any member can post a poll. See the "Post a Poll" box at the bottom of the Post New Thread form. You need to create it carefully because usually only moderators can edit or modify a poll once it has been created.

ignote
12-23-08, 06:42 PM
I was a happy Sirius subscriber before the merger but now I'm thinking about canceling.
The changes to Buzzsaw, 80s, 70s, New Country, etc all suck.

AlbieNO
12-23-08, 09:03 PM
XM subscriber and I am not even remotely happy. I spent approx 95% of my time listening to Fred, Fungus, Homeplate or baseball games. First Wave is an extremely poor substitute for Fred, who can possibly think that shrinking the playlist from 2000+ songs to 400 or so is an improvement unless you are a U2 fan, and the addition of the "On Air Personalities" especially the annoying bimbo in the mornings is a major step backwards. Fungus is gone. And Homeplate is going downhill starting with the departure of Mark Patrick from Baseball This Morning.

I have a question for the Sirius Subs. Have their music channels always had these DJ's (for lack of a better term) on the air?

Pat6366
12-23-08, 09:18 PM
XM subscriber and I am not even remotely happy. I spent approx 95% of my time listening to Fred, Fungus, Homeplate or baseball games. First Wave is an extremely poor substitute for Fred, who can possibly think that shrinking the playlist from 2000+ songs to 400 or so is an improvement unless you are a U2 fan and the addition of the "On Air Personalities" especially the annoying bimbo in the mornings a major step backwards. Fungus is gone. And Homeplate is going downhill starting with the departure of Mark Patrick from Baseball This Morning.

I have a question for the Sirius Subs. Have their music channels always had these DJ's (for lack of a better term) on the air?Thank you, finally someone else who is not happy with First Wave. I couldn't believe the other day they actually played Manic Monday by the Bangles, come on, someone really thinks that is alternative? That is crap that you hear in the doctors office.

JJ
12-23-08, 09:34 PM
Longtime
XM subscriber. Sirius stations with too much talk have me baffled. If I wanted mindless DJ drones I would listen to local FM. Called to complain and SiriusXM agent suggested that I send an email about changes. I complained bitterly about changes and channels going 'on hiatus' while I'm paying full price. Amazingly SiriusXM sent me a reply touting all the wonderful changes they were making. After sending back a message pointing out thier folly I have heard nothing since.

XM is on notice that they are hanging by a string and if they want to keep my business they have until 22JAN2009 when my next billing is due. While I purchased a new vehicle (specifically with XM) in September I barely noticed the trial ending. With the service in the shape it is today I certainly have no desire to sign up a third receiver when I'm considering cancelling the receivers I already own...

The merger has created an 'only game in town' scenario along with a 'take it or leave it' attitude. I'm not very far from leaving, but SiriusXM doesen't seem to care...

nite_chyld
12-24-08, 12:41 AM
I have been a longtime XM radio subscriber and I heartily agree that most of these DJs talk too much. Honestly, I don't care for what they have to say. I just want the music. Also, I was a big fan of UPop. This BBC that they replaced it with is something I can do without.

barbie845
12-24-08, 07:56 AM
The merger has created an 'only game in town' scenario along with a 'take it or leave it' attitude.

If that's truly the attitude SiriusXM is now taking they are sorely mistaken.

If you read through this forum, and the XM forums especially, there are plenty of other 'game's out there now. And many are trying new music sources.

You know it is a little funny. When Sirius and XM made their pitch to merge one of their biggest arguments was they were being hurt by all the other competition out there. So now they are pushing many right into the competition's arms.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

lohertz
12-24-08, 10:16 AM
If that's truly the attitude SiriusXM is now taking they are sorely mistaken.

If you read through this forum, and the XM forums especially, there are plenty of other 'game's out there now. And many are trying new music sources.

You know it is a little funny. When Sirius and XM made their pitch to merge one of their biggest arguments was they were being hurt by all the other competition out there. So now they are pushing many right into the competition's arms.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

First off, when the FCC granted licenses to XM and Sirius it was on the condition that there were 2 entities in the satellite radio market b/c they didn't want a monopoly with that same attitude. However, as we all know there are plenty of alternatives to satellite radio. So the notion that its a take it or leave it, I feel, is unfounded, b/c there are so many alternatives.

The idea of any company is to have an advantage over its competition, so that consumers will use their service. You get Sirius or XM for ___ fill in the blank, NFL? MLB? Nascar? Howard Stern? whatever it may be, thats why you get it right, because you can't get that in your car whether your in Chicago or New Orleans with other means.

That's why I had it. Ask yourself why did you get it? For the music or for the content?

There should have been only one company to begin with. Neither company has made a signal cent since they started broadcasting.

barbie845
12-24-08, 10:53 AM
First off, when the FCC granted licenses to XM and Sirius it was on the condition that there were 2 entities in the satellite radio market b/c they didn't want a monopoly with that same attitude. However, as we all know there are plenty of alternatives to satellite radio. So the notion that its a take it or leave it, I feel, is unfounded, b/c there are so many alternatives.

The idea of any company is to have an advantage over its competition, so that consumers will use their service. You get Sirius or XM for ___ fill in the blank, NFL? MLB? Nascar? Howard Stern? whatever it may be, thats why you get it right, because you can't get that in your car whether your in Chicago or New Orleans with other means.

That's why I had it. Ask yourself why did you get it? For the music or for the content?

There should have been only one company to begin with. Neither company has made a signal cent since they started broadcasting.

I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who don't give a damn about these changes.

But people like me, who got and had XM for almost 7 years for the music, I am disappointed with the changes to the music channels.

If I want Sat radio for just Stern, or the NFL then I'd stick around. But unfortunately for SiriusXM I listen to sat radio 99% of the time for the music. And right now there are PLENTY of other alternatives out there. If this happened 4-5 years ago I'd have to grin and bare it. Now a days, I don't have to. I can vote with my feet.

And I am.

I'm keeping one of my XM subs, but the rest are gone after the 1st.

Curt Palme
12-24-08, 11:22 AM
I've had XM since 2004, cancelled it when O&A got suspended, simply in principle. Then I never got around to signing back up. I burned dozens of MP3 CDs instead..:)

I signed back up about 6 weeks ago, right after the merger.

I switch between music and talk radio. I never listen to sports.

I don't care one way or other about the music changes, I didn't just lock into one channel, I jump around all over the place. I don't miss any particular channel that was lost at all.

The sound quality has always been iffy at best, some channels now sound just awful. THen again, I only listen in my truck, I don't have a home unit, so the sound quality in my Rav 4 can't be considered audiophile anyways.

I'll stick with the service, probably for as long as it's around. Right now I think the 'History of Howard' is some of the most entertaining radio I've heard in years. For sometime listeners like me, there's a lot of his show that I don't get, since I haven't been around for the last 20 years. That 'history' program is filling me in on a lot of the past of the show, so that some of the characters now make more sense. I am about to check to see if it's available for download online on his site. I'll pay for a decent downloadable copy of that whole program.

alv
12-24-08, 04:24 PM
I also voted with my wallet and cancelled XM. In the process, I found internet radio is better in any case.

barbie845
12-24-08, 05:08 PM
According to this 10,000 subs canceled. We don't know if that's 10,000 accounts or 10,000 subscriptions. And of course that number could be much higher, but they are only admitting to 10k. Whatever the truth is at least they listened to some of the complaints and acted.


Sirius XM addresses its slipped disco

By David Hinckley
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Wednesday, December 24th 2008, 4:00 AM
Sirius XM disc jockey Joe Causi Paul Hawthorne/Getty Images

Sirius XM disc jockey Joe Causi

Sirius XM has restored the Strobe and Backspin channels that did not originally survive consolidation after the merger of Sirius and XM.

"We listened to our subscribers, and they wanted those channels back," says Sirius President and Chief Content Officer Scott Greenstein. "In fact, they had been among the last channels we cut."

Strobe plays disco and classic dance from the '70s and '80s, with shows like "Deney Terrio's Request Fever" and "[Joe] Causi's Club Classics."

Backspin plays old-school rap and hip-hop, with specialty shows featuring hosts like Monie Love and Afrika Bambaataa. Sirius XM is also adding "The Beat Morning Show" to the BPM channel. The host will be New York radio veteran Geronimo.

The channels return Jan. 15, and Greenstein says he hopes no other permanent channels must be dropped, though that's still being worked out.

The Sirius XM merger reduced 130 music channels to 67, and alongside multiple host cuts, it left some listeners concerned.

Some of the mergers involved two almost identical channels, others less so. But listeners noted that often nominally similar channels took different approaches.

XM's "High Standards" popular standards channel, for instance, had a different sound from Sirius' "Siriusly Sinatra."

"Siriusly Sinatra" survived, and "High Standards" program director Jonathan Schwartz now does a daily show there.

Not all listeners think that's enough. "I dread Schwartz's show ending, making way for the bland to begin and continue until his return the following day," writes subscriber Chip Geer, who's keeping his subscription "in hopes things will improve."

Sirius XM officials have acknowledged they heard from a number of subscribers post-merger, with about 10,000 canceling. Now, says Greenstein, "The complaints have pretty much stopped."

Sirius XM projects 19.1 million subscribers by year-end, up about 10% from last year. It expects 20.6 million at the end of 2009.

The programming keys to continued growth, says Greenstein, are diversity and "freshness."

"We already have a wider range than anyone, from Bing Crosby to Led Zeppelin. That will continue. We just need to keep providing music that people like and wouldn't hear anywhere else, including on their iPods."

That said, not every taste will always be represented.

"At some point we become the ultimate aggregator," he says, "and you do have to program for the greater good of all your subscribers."




http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2008/12/24/2008-12-24_sirius_xm_addresses_its_slipped_disco.html

CoreyM
12-24-08, 06:03 PM
I "cancelled" in September, but took their 3 free months so I am not officially off the books yet. I suspect many are in the same boat. I have almost completely stopped listening since I bought an iPod when the Red Sox were finished, only checking in once or twice to see which channels survived the merger. My wife will keep here Sirius although I'd just as soon cancel that as well. She likes Howard for some reason.

I subscribed for Fungus and Red Sox. Red Sox aren't enough to keep me year round and its clear punk isn't coming back. The stations that I listened to while Fungus was gone and the Red Sox were still playing have all been wiped: Lucy, Fred and X-Country.

mercury
12-25-08, 06:19 AM
I also voted with my wallet and cancelled XM. In the process, I found internet radio is better in any case.



can i play internet radio in my car?

barbie845
12-25-08, 09:06 AM
can i play internet radio in my car?

Yes you can...

Slacker.com

mercury
12-25-08, 06:18 PM
Yes you can...

Slacker.com


how does that work?

STEELERSRULE
12-25-08, 06:56 PM
Mercury,

Got to www.slacker.com

They should have pretty much all the info you need on what type of radio/content/cost(if any)/etc....

mercury
12-25-08, 07:10 PM
Thanks-

dont understand it but thanks;)

barbie845
12-25-08, 07:16 PM
how does that work?


The portable?

You buy it. Either wirelessly or USB you d/l up to 25 pre programmed, OR custom programmed stations( 40 stations with the 8 gig player)..

It also refreshes as often as you like wirelessly anywhere, that way the playlist remain fresh and new. It adds songs, substracts songs, you can also fine tune the pre-programmed stations to your likes and dislikes.

To listen in the car except for the antenna it hooks up like any XM or Sirius PnP. No car dock yet but a cell phone holder would do the trick.

edit...After the cost of the portable the service is free. They have a pay service, $4 a month or $7 a month( if you want to save songs to the portable). But so far from what I'm reading there's very little reason to buy the pay service.

STEELERSRULE
12-25-08, 07:56 PM
barbie845,

I have been reading on the website, and your post, but still am a little confused about(this looks very interesting as I really only do listen to Howard, and a handful of other stationson Sirius):

1. Does it connect to a car radio like my current Stiletto? I have it connected via a car cassette adapter(3.5mm one end from the stiletto to the cassette player on the car)? And/or does it connect via FM wireless(just curious)?

2. When it downloads via Wi-Fi, does it download, let's say, a ton of songs/info for each station you choose to setup? So if I have only 15 stations that I prefer(the 4GB seesm to be the way I would go, as it look like more than enough for me), will it download like 5 hours worth of music(this is just a random number. If it is more or less, do tell) on each channel/station I have chosen(whether it is 25 or 1 on the 4GB model)?

3. Does it have a Car power adapter(for the cigarette lighter) to charge/ or keep charge the battery?

barbie845
12-25-08, 08:48 PM
1- Yep, it will connect to a radio via Aux-in, cassette adapter or an external FM mod. Slacker sells a FM mod, but of course you can get one on ebay much cheaper.

2- Yes, the 1st time it d/l's it takes HOURS because it is d/l hundreds if not thousands of songs. Of course the faster the wireless connection the faster the d/l. But after that 1st d/l the refreshing takes 10-15 mins. Because then all it's doing is deleting some songs, adding others, and re-shuffling the stations you listened to since the last re-fresh. The stations you haven't listened to since the last refresh it does nothing. I've read with the 25 station is d/l about 100 songs per channel. I do not know if you only choose 12 channels if it will then d/l 200 per channel. I imagine it will, that makes sense.

3- it charges USB. So all you need is one of those 12v DC chargers that plugs into the cig lighter and a USB cable plugs into it.

Robert Clark
12-28-08, 02:47 AM
can i play internet radio in my car?

I jumped in on the Woot $49 Slacker deal. Classical music selection is very poor but the rest seems pretty good. There are many repeat tracks on Classical and film music channels.
It's a very cool gadget. You can literally take the unit anywhere and listen to hours and hours of music.

I think a 3g iphone might be a better car solution (I have the 1g iphone, music is converted to low res mono on the slower network) but the best thing about the Slacker is that there is no fee for using it, ever, unless you want the premium features. On the iPhone you can choose from streaming music on several different apps including AOL music, Pandora, and FlyCast, all free.

awaldman
12-29-08, 12:13 AM
I've been a Sirrius subscriber since Howard went there, and have been impressed with all aspects of the service. However, I'm not happy with the changes to the 70's or 90's channels. They are sticking with a top 40 play list that they did not have before. I also miss the Vault. I appreciate the input about alternate listening choices. I am currently listening to Slacker on the computer.

CheeseMoney
12-29-08, 03:57 AM
I'm pretty disappointed as an XM subscriber. I was kinda hoping for improvement in the service (I still love POTUS08). Was hoping for more than 1 blues channel. Listen to lithium 90s alternative and grunge still, but barely anything else.

barbie845
12-29-08, 07:52 AM
Today( Monday) Woot has the 8 gig/40 channel slacker G1 on sale for $70..Nice price.

WalksInDarkness
12-29-08, 02:23 PM
I jumped in on the Woot $49 Slacker deal. Classical music selection is very poor but the rest seems pretty good. There are many repeat tracks on Classical and film music channels.
It's a very cool gadget. You can literally take the unit anywhere and listen to hours and hours of music.

I think a 3g iphone might be a better car solution (I have the 1g iphone, music is converted to low res mono on the slower network) but the best thing about the Slacker is that there is no fee for using it, ever, unless you want the premium features. On the iPhone you can choose from streaming music on several different apps including AOL music, Pandora, and FlyCast, all free.

I thinking about going the "Slacker" route, and dropping XM.

Have you tried connecting to a AV reciever of any kind? I am wondering what the sound qaulity is on an actual audio system.

Also, does it work with sites like "Pandora"?

barbie845
12-29-08, 02:33 PM
I thinking about going the "Slacker" route, and dropping XM.

Have you tried connecting to a AV reciever of any kind? I am wondering what the sound qaulity is on an actual audio system.

Also, does it work with sites like "Pandora"?

I have mine connected to my Pioneer A/V.. sounds is good, better then SiriusXM.

No, it only works with Slackers web site, which is free. But you can d/l Mp3's to the G2 player. I'm not sure about the G1, but I'm guessing it's the same.

WalksInDarkness
12-29-08, 03:23 PM
I have mine connected to my Pioneer A/V.. sounds is good, better then SiriusXM.

No, it only works with Slackers web site, which is free. But you can d/l Mp3's to the G2 player. I'm not sure about the G1, but I'm guessing it's the same.

Cool, thanks for the feedback.

I was going to set my house up with a Squeezebox Duet system; but for all the equipement I need it would be $700, the $79.99 G2 seems like a economical soloution for a multi-room setup (just move the unit around).

lohertz
12-29-08, 04:04 PM
Mercury,

Got to www.slacker.com

They should have pretty much all the info you need on what type of radio/content/cost(if any)/etc....

Thanks for the link, that is awesome! Thanks steelers

Today( Monday) Woot has the 8 gig/40 channel slacker G1 on sale for $70..Nice price.

Another great link, thanks barbie

barbie845
12-29-08, 04:37 PM
Cool, thanks for the feedback.

I was going to set my house up with a Squeezebox Duet system; but for all the equipement I need it would be $700, the $79.99 G2 seems like a economical soloution for a multi-room setup (just move the unit around).

The $70 unit is the G1, not the G2..

It should work the same. From what I've read the G1 is bigger and has a few quirks, but I think basically both units work the same.

mercury
12-29-08, 07:20 PM
I dont know..... the slacker for me sounds like to much trouble. i just want to get in my car and turn on the radio.


thanks though.

barbie845
12-29-08, 07:40 PM
I dont know..... the slacker for me sounds like to much trouble. i just want to get in my car and turn on the radio.


thanks though.

Actually since the slacker has no antenna it's at least as easy to set-up as any XM or Sirius PnP unit. You just need power and audio. Again, same as a PnP unit, an Ipod, etc.

Try the web player, that's free too. See if you like it. If you like the music selection then maybe down the road you might want to invest in a portable player. I hope I'm wrong but you may need a music alternative to SiriusXM in the near future.

CoreyM
12-30-08, 01:12 AM
Cool, thanks for the feedback.

I was going to set my house up with a Squeezebox Duet system; but for all the equipement I need it would be $700, the $79.99 G2 seems like a economical soloution for a multi-room setup (just move the unit around).
What about the iPod touch (or iPhone) - you can do Pandora, Last.fm, aol radio, flycast and others (slacker may or may not have an app in development), plus there are apps that will let you stream your entire MP3 collection through wifi so the small storage capacity is less of a concern.

Plus its a great little portable web browser if you need it.

Mine has made me forget all about my Inno.

barbie845
12-30-08, 08:27 AM
Thanks for the link, that is awesome! Thanks steelers



Another great link, thanks barbie

You're welcome.. If you liked that everyone will love this..Woot is selling the 2gb G1 today for $45 shipped..

Link: http://sellout.woot.com/Default.aspx?WootSaleId=7725&ts=1230643674&sig=fa10ab69217340d2

alv
12-30-08, 05:49 PM
Sonus zoneplayer is also worth considering. I dropped XM and have been using Pandora. Eventually, I will try other services but it couldn't be better for the home.

jlpio
12-31-08, 11:36 AM
I switched from XM to Sirius earlier this year to get the religious talk channels. Squizz and Liquid Metal were the only music channels I really listened to, and Octane and Hard Attack are very similar so I had no real complaints about the switch (other than the fact that Sirius combined the traffic channels for DC and Baltimore into one). My wife on the other hand hated the switch to Sirius. She's thrilled now that she has her favorite XM channels back.

electrictroy
12-31-08, 02:59 PM
2- Yes, the 1st time it d/l's it takes HOURS because it is d/l hundreds if not thousands of songs. Of course the faster the wireless connection the faster the d/l.

But after that 1st d/l the refreshing takes 10-15 mins. Because then all it's doing is deleting some songs, adding others, and re-shuffling the stations you listened to since the last re-fresh. I don't see how this is any different than how my Insignia MP3 player works, except that I have to do the "refreshing" myself.

barbie845
12-31-08, 03:06 PM
I don't see how this is any different than how my Insignia MP3 player works, except that I have to do the "refreshing" myself.


If your Insignia MP3 player is your typical MP3 player, it's much different.

One d/l of 2,500 songs( for the 4gb player, 4,000 songs for the 8gb player) in 2,3-4 hours. How long would it take you to amass an MP3 collection of 2,500 MP3's.

lohertz
12-31-08, 09:11 PM
I think the beauty of it is that you dont have to spend money updating your mp3s to keep up with the latest music

TSS Nick
01-01-09, 01:17 PM
I think Sirius XM radio is great and I will never go back to terrestrial radio again. Sirius changed the way I listen to music with my Stiletto 2 portable radio. I have it connected to my Pioneer VSX-818V and use the Premium Internet stream (which is superior in sound quality to the Satellite Radio signal) and man oh man does my home stereo system rock!

With the massive music library and talk-radio options your certain to be happy with something on the service. Especially since you can save your favorite songs instead of paying $.99 to download them AND you add additional memory via microSD card so it's a great mp3 player too!

So the bottom line is that a Sirius radio connected to a good home a/v receiver = a solid music and entertainment center!

And yes, since the merger the two companies are trying to figure out how to reshuffle certain channels but they are listening to subscriber feedback so email them if you have issues with certain channels being removed or replaced.

Pat6366
01-02-09, 09:52 AM
I think Sirius XM radio is great and I will never go back to terrestrial radio again. Sirius changed the way I listen to music with my Stiletto 2 portable radio. I have it connected to my Pioneer VSX-818V and use the Premium Internet stream (which is superior in sound quality to the Satellite Radio signal) and man oh man does my home stereo system rock!

With the massive music library and talk-radio options your certain to be happy with something on the service. Especially since you can save your favorite songs instead of paying $.99 to download them AND you add additional memory via microSD card so it's a great mp3 player too!

So the bottom line is that a Sirius radio connected to a good home a/v receiver = a solid music and entertainment center!

And yes, since the merger the two companies are trying to figure out how to reshuffle certain channels but they are listening to subscriber feedback so email them if you have issues with certain channels being removed or replaced.
Are you a Sirius/XM employee?

dlcrouch
01-02-09, 11:02 AM
i'm an XM subscriber. I like getting some of the new stations like Radio Margaritaville, but don't like using DJs on Classic Vivnyl which replaced Top Tracks.

Overall, i just happy we have sattelite radio. In Houston, the selection of OTA FM is dismal.

Rammitinski
01-02-09, 01:58 PM
Are you a Sirius/XM employee?Check out his post in that other thread here, and you'll get your answer.

(I didn't think that kind of stuff was even allowed here. Especially his "homepage". I hope he's paying some kind of fee or something.)

lohertz
01-02-09, 02:39 PM
Check out his post in that other thread here, and you'll get your answer.

(I didn't even think that kind of stuff was even allowed here. Especially his "homepage". I hope he's paying some kind of fee or something.)

Wow :eek: There's no need to try and advertise what you sell. If you're in this thread then you've obviously subscribed to a service and purchased equipment.

mercury
01-02-09, 07:41 PM
I welcome back the Bridge..... now if AC/DC crap can split and bonyard proves good we may have something.

CoreyM
01-03-09, 01:05 AM
It dawned on me that I bought my Inno at Costco in 2006 before they changed their electronics policy.

Kind of a lame thing to do because it hurts Costco and not XM, but anyone had any success returning their gear at Costco?

mercury
01-03-09, 05:20 PM
It dawned on me that I bought my Inno at Costco in 2006 before they changed their electronics policy.

Kind of a lame thing to do because it hurts Costco and not XM, but anyone had any success returning their gear at Costco?


It hurts costco....

how so?

CoreyM
01-03-09, 08:05 PM
It hurts costco....

how so?
I assume they eat the cost. What's an Inno sell for now? They probably can't get anything back for it. Granted I pay an annual membership fee to have this right, so I guess it balances out, and I've never returned anything except when my Xbox 360 broke. I'm just not one to abuse return policies normally, but if I have the option of ebaying the Inno and getting pennies on the dollar or getting store credit to use to replace the bedroom tv, I think that's an easy call. *shrug*

In any event, I am officially cancelled now. Customer service was moderately annoying, though I understand she was just doing her job. But I shouldn't have to make it clear that I haven't listened in over a month on my account (my wife still has her Sirius for the time being) 5 or more times just to get her to process my request. And even then she asked me if there was anything better she could have done to save my subscription - seriously - it was like a girl friend who you were dumping who wouldn't take no for an answer and forced you to go into a "its not you, its me" routine... I do believe it is finally done as I can no longer log into my account on the XM page to even verify my account status.

I took a survey but it was pretty worthless. Hopefully the comments I left with the customer service rep will be translated properly. If they ever put Fungus back on the air I'll consider resubscribing, its about as simple as that, and from my emails with Zellner I just can't see that ever happening.

electrictroy
01-10-09, 07:36 AM
How long would it take you to amass an MP3 collection of 2,500 MP3's. Well since I downloaded a ********** entitled "Billboard Top 100 1954-2007" I was able to get 5300 MP3 in just a few hours. I can move thrm over to my Insignia Player and play them just like my own private radio station.

imromo24
01-15-09, 09:40 PM
I've been using my brothers online account that is free with his vehicle subscription and I find it hard to go to bed because I want to listen.

I listen to both Hip Hop nation (which has greatly improved since the channel changes but is still in development) and Shade 45 (oh yeah and Stern). The DJ's bring a level of professionalism that can't be achieved with song after unrelated song on an MP3 player, by unrelated i mean beat progression.

Its like having a continuous DJ show that many people make special trips to clubs to hear but you can hear it in your own home or car...all the time.

I was using usirius and orb to listen on my unlimited data package with my sprint instinct but the wife made me uninstall orb because she thought there might be security risks, oh well.

I very very much can't wait to get the new XMP3 from pioneer which records 5 channels at once, so you can take it wherever you want with all your favorite dj's jamming out.

I'm not an employee, i am an investor and a huge fan of the service and content.

As soon as they are able to merge the bandwidth sirius xm will be able to show their full potential but it might take a couple years. The first interoperable radio comes out soon (spring 09) which is a step to making this happen.

check sirius's website for your favorite channel, several offer survey clubs where they email you surveys to vote on music. I am a member of hip hop nation brigade.

Good luck and happy listening.

nocturnalmotors
02-03-09, 02:23 PM
XM subscriber. Love the merger as far as now I get to listen to Faction and Jason Ellis. Will stop my recurring payments on March 10th. So sad.

HT_n_Me
02-03-09, 02:33 PM
I just canceled my subscription. I had three radios on my account, been an XM guy for over 4 yrs.

I lost all the channels I listen to and there just isn't any reason to continue. I was asked if they gave it to me for free for 3 months would I stay? No, I wouldn't. That pretty much sums things up for me. Even free crap isn't worth it.

ktmglen
02-04-09, 01:58 AM
I've had 2 Sirius radios for about 5 years and 1 XM radio for about 3 years. I recently renewed the 2 Sirius radios for another 3 years and am really beginning to regret it. I'm going to let the XM subscription lapse.

I really liked the punk channel on Sirius and Fungus on XM. Both of which are gone since the merger. Also there's entirely too much talk and DJs now. The only two channels I can find where I can listen to music without a DJ butting in after every song are Lithium and BPM.

I really wished I would have spent the $600 I spent renewing the two Sirius subscriptions at the Amazon MP3 store now.

I really liked the diversity in music by having two different services with different music and channels on each. That's gone now. I can't justify a 3rd receiver any more.

-Glen

Audiguy3
02-09-09, 09:41 PM
I will probably keep one XM sat receiver - a portable one as there still is nothing better for cross country travel. But the stations I listen too have changed - The Loft seldom plays anything I like and on the talk side of things they dropped Bob Brinker who I listened to for financial advice since 86'. I will now start using internet radio at home for what I want to listen to on my stereo.
The alternate rock channels programing is too like Sirius which came with my RS4. Their programming was just not for me as I could not even find my type of songs even when surfing the channels. Whereas with XM I could find a channel and not switch for hours at a time

wb8tsv
02-10-09, 12:26 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster here. I cancelled my XM subscription today after 4 1/2 years. I was not happy with the post merger company. The audio quality on the music channels I listened to has degraded, there are too many commercials for sex pills and to eliminate your credit card debt in 3 months on the talk stations, and the DJs, especially on the 70s station, are annoying. I miss what it could have been under different circumstances, but I guess there aren't enough people willing to pay to listen to the radio to cover the cost of building and launching the system and to cover the ridiculous amounts of money spent on acquiring Howard Stern, NASCAR, MLB, NFL, etc. I would consider subscribing again if the audio quality improves, if they get the DJs off the music channels and just play music, and the biggest if of all... if they're still around.

Mgibsoj
02-10-09, 12:31 PM
I sure wish they would stop with the self-promotion between each song - it is really getting annoying. "No commercials" is said over and over and over, I get it already. Also, their song selection on a given channel (the Groove and Decades) seems quite limited with frequent repeats.

ktmglen
02-10-09, 12:40 PM
Whereas with XM I could find a channel and not switch for hours at a time

Exactly. I'm thinking about installing an IR repeater in my office just for the XM receiver so I can change the channel on the receiver without having to get up as often as I have to now. While I was writing letters last week, I wrote a note to Betsy Markey about the total waste it was to air the same programming on two different satellite systems and chunks of bandwidth.

I sure wish they would stop with the self-promotion between each song - it is really getting annoying. "No commercials" is said over and over and over, I get it already. Also, their song selection on a given channel (the Groove and Decades) seems quite limited with frequent repeats.

The self-promotion and shallow programming bugs the crud out of me too.

The "ok ethel listeners octane is just as good" self promo bugs me the most.

XM had much deeper playlists than the Sirius stations that replaced them. It was cool to be able to listen to Ethel or Fungus or Fred or Lucy and hear something that I had never heard before (or at least hadn't heard in a long time) that was decades old or older.

-Glen

Dendk
02-15-09, 11:27 PM
I plan on keeping XM radio service as my travels take me out of Cell and Wi-Fi Range (Southwest) Flycast, Pandora and other services rock but only if you can connect to them :)