hello all,

if you live in the philly area, f.y.i. released this bluray on tuesday dec. 23. a last mimute christmas gift to someone if needed.

hello all,

if you live in the philly area, f.y.i. released this bluray on tuesday dec. 23. a last mimute christmas gift to someone if needed.

Well I'm not going to move to Philly either but I'm jealous!:)

Is it a good film guys ?

the film is so so.

the acting is pretty good. first 35 minutes are excellent. however it becomes very cliche for the rest of the time.

i would give it a rental. it is the perfect rental. watch 1 time and forget.

The film was practically made for BD---non-stop pacing, a loud energetic score, and a lot of action.

I was hoping to get a copy, but I won't pay $27 for it...

I got my copy a few days ago. I found the movie substantially better than expected (but not to fall blindly in love with) and the BD seemed nice, with nothing special to declare. All in all, good spectacle to spend an entertaining and relaxing couple of hours.

Just rented it today, will probably watch it later this evening...

Is it a good film guys ?

Personally I thought it was horrible (and I even saw it in IMAX!... who doesn't always love an IMAX movie? yea, that bad...)

I guess part of my reasoning is I can't bear to watch Shia, as his over-acting, lack of chemistry, unable to connect with his characters are what makes me biased...

He has potential and I hoped I would see more of it in this film. I didn't.

The picture quality is extremely good. Probably one of the BDs I've seen in a while. Tons of detail, every speck of grain is resolved perfectly. I watched most of it with my face an inch from the monitor, I didn't see a single artifact the entire time. Flawless transfer and encode IMO.

Oh but the movie itself is god-awful.

I buy 3

Had my copy for a few weeks already, but I haven't watched it yet. Glad the encode came out great.

This film is like Enemy of the State remake,the same old plot(may be I am robot another version)as the sinister main computer betray to mankind.The movie is the same old wine in a new bottle but the sound quality and picture transfer is great.

Looks like it might have to be a renter.

174 Blu-ray
My Fathers Blu-Ray 211
Total 381

Your signature confuses me... :confused:

they likely collect together, so they don't have doubles and can build a library twice as fast

This film is like Enemy of the State remake,the same old plot(may be I am robot another version)as the sinister main computer betray to mankind.The movie is the same old wine in a new bottle but the sound quality and picture transfer is great.

Still worth a look for me. Btw guys wishing you all a merry christmas.

The movie itself was ok. I'm getting really tired of Shia LaBeouf though. One would think there are no other actors his age in Hollywood, as many roles as he gets.

The picture quality is extremely good. Probably one of the BDs I've seen in a while. Tons of detail, every speck of grain is resolved perfectly. I watched most of it with my face an inch from the monitor, I didn't see a single artifact the entire time. Flawless transfer and encode IMO.

Oh but the movie itself is god-awful.

Nice to hear some +ve comments from an extremely discerning viewer. Btw, why no pics ? ;)

they likely collect together, so they don't have doubles and can build a library twice as fast

I was regarding the total... :) (although I guess maybe doubles are implied, hence the confusion)

Still worth a look for me. Btw guys wishing you all a merry christmas.
May I recommend you RE Extinction ,great cgi movie and the story is good too as PQ and SQ(TrueHD),just saw it last night.The bad is aspect ratio of the picture.Happy new year and hopefully this recession will be not too long.:confused:

May I recommend you RE Extinction ,great cgi movie and the story is good too as PQ and SQ(TrueHD),just saw it last night.The bad is aspect ratio of the picture.Happy new year and hopefully this recession will be not too long.:confused:

Cheers

Sorry FRANIN ,It is RE Degeneration not Extinction,my bad.

The bad is aspect ratio of the picture
How is an aspect ratio a bad thing? Is it not OAR? Or is this a case of "It didn't fill my screen"?

How is an aspect ratio a bad thing? Is it not OAR? Or is this a case of "It didn't fill my screen"?Greeting ,the bad thing for me,I meant it did not fit my cinemascope curve screen,and the back of BD box print aspect ratio 1.78:1,but when seeing I think it was 1.85:1.:confused:

Greeting ,the bad thing for me,I meant it did not fit my cinemascope curve screen,and the back of BD box print aspect ratio 1.78:1,but when seeing I think it was 1.85:1.:confused:

original aspect ratio is 2.35:1. are you sure that the box says that?

So this one is out now?

I found my copy at FYE last Monday evening after BB said they woldn't have it out til this weekend sometime.The PQ and AQ are far better than average though far from the best i've ever seen.It's a decent action flick and great for a
Saturday night primetime viewing by the family.

I'm actually shocked and horrified at how bad this film was, disgusted infact. Not a great choice as a Boxing Day movie at all.

I will have to rent it. To many negative reviews...

original aspect ratio is 2.35:1. are you sure that the box says that?I said about RE degenertion BD (1.78:1)not Eagle eye which is 2.35:1.

Just another high tech boy meets girl movie aimed at generation xers. Rips off so many movies, not very original. Wife fell asleep during it. The only thing that kept me awake was the picture and audio quality on my new blu-ray player. Had this just been on regular dvd, I would have turned it off to watch Survivorman.

I thought this film was all mixed up with Enemy of the State and I am Robot.The movie was alright but PQ and SQ is great.

I thought this film was all mixed up with Enemy of the State and I am Robot.The movie was alright but PQ and SQ is great.

Im still waiting for this film and some others that have been shipped international pirority.it's taking longer than usual.

Watched the BD last night. PQ and SQ were good, but the movie was a HUGE disappointment. Aside from the one really good chase scene, there was hardly any action and I was actually struggling to stay awake to finish the flick. Very glad I rented this one instead of doing a "blind buy" as I'd expected it to be much better.

This movie was good to me lots of action. The scary part is that this may come true.

I thought this film was all mixed up with Enemy of the State and I am Robot.The movie was alright but PQ and SQ is great.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I was thinking the exact same thing when watching it.....i was waiting for a Will Smith cameo too. lol.

Like alot of reviews I read before I watched it...this movie is very exciting in the beginning but kinda lets up in the end once you start to predict what is going to happen. I own it though and really liked it.

It just dawned on me, but in addition to the Enemy of the State and I, Robot themes, there is the more subtle theme of coercion (the element of coercion in the movie isn't subtle, of course, but the connection to real life instances of coercion is subtle, imo). It puts a symphathetic eye (no pun intended) on the individuals caught up (unwillingly) in the maelstrom of something larger. In the movie, it befalls different American individuals (man, woman, Middle Easterners- I don't think this was just an accident) who are lured to comply with the task just to save their own life or someone they love. Having not known this context, an outside observer (the FBI agents, for example) would just presume the persons doing these activities are some form of terrorist up to no good and must be stopped. It is up to the viewer to draw similar analogies to conflicts that go on abroad and the distinction between willing participants, coerced participants, and whatever civilian population they live amongst.

I enjoyed the Predator attack in the tunnel scene, though. :)

...and I just can't help to make fun of the title. Whenever I read it, there is an inescapable thought in my head that the inevitable porno adaption of this title will be "Brown Eye". :p

I hate to bump this thread but I just watched this movie, and it motivated me to plot a graph. So I present to you, my viewing experience for the movie Eagle Eye.

Thank you.

I hate to bump this thread but I just watched this movie, and it motivated me to plot a graph. So I present to you, my viewing experience for the movie Eagle Eye.

Thank you.

Very funny! :D

Only 14.99 at BB starting this Sunday, the 25th. Yes, on blu-ray.

Only 14.99 at BB starting this Sunday, the 25th. Yes, on blu-ray.

The ad says $16.99.

I hate to bump this thread but I just watched this movie, and it motivated me to plot a graph. So I present to you, my viewing experience for the movie Eagle Eye.

Thank you.


lol:p Nice work. What was the alternate ending by the way as your graph has me curious?

my bad. I was just excited that the price was so good for the blu-ray.
16.99 is correct.

I hate to bump this thread but I just watched this movie, and it motivated me to plot a graph. So I present to you, my viewing experience for the movie Eagle Eye.

Thank you.

Okay, that was funny. I watched this movie last night and felt that it was definitely over the top. I still somewhat enjoyed it, but it was just a little too far out in left field for me.

lol:p Nice work. What was the alternate ending by the way as your graph has me curious?

It's poor quality but you can watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy1CEUHHF10

It puts the rest of the movie to shame

Okay, that was funny. I watched this movie last night and felt that it was definitely over the top. I still somewhat enjoyed it, but it was just a little too far out in left field for me.

i thought the film was great, I thoroghly enjoyed it.

i thought the film was great, I thoroghly enjoyed it.I enjoyed this BD too but kind of remind me of the past famous films.:)

I enjoyed this BD too but kind of remind me of the past famous films.:)

I actually prefer it over the enemy of the State.

I actually prefer it over the enemy of the State.agreed with you,Enemy of State was not action all the movie,sometime was boring and the ending was too easy.:)

I never tell Enemy of State and I Robot,How did you know?

I never tell Enemy of State and I Robot,How did you know?

Well Enemy of the State was quite easy but the movie did adapt the same concept as I robot but also adding a touch of the Matrix only the bit in the beginning where morpheous is guiding NEO out of the building via the phone. Apart from that it was a great fiction film not to be taken seriously but just simply enjoyed.

well enemy of the state was quite easy but the movie did adapt the same concept as i robot but also adding a touch of the matrix only the bit in the beginning where morpheous is guiding neo out of the building via the phone. Apart from that it was a great fiction film not to be taken seriously but just simply enjoyed.
wow!

Well Enemy of the State was quite easy but the movie did adapt the same concept as I robot but also adding a touch of the Matrix only the bit in the beginning where morpheous is guiding NEO out of the building via the phone. Apart from that it was a great fiction film not to be taken seriously but just simply enjoyed.

Well, that would be the other way around don't you think? As Enemy Of The State came out a full year prior to The Matrix.

Well, that would be the other way around don't you think? As Enemy Of The State came out a full year prior to The Matrix.

Im just saying what parts of the movie Eagle Eye had certain similarties too the other 3 movies I just mentioned. Whats that got to do with who came out first he did not ask which came out first.Its quite obvious what movies Eagle Eye had taken its ideas from.

I was grooving with Eagle Eye until it got to its ridiculous premise.
I would think my chart would look very similar to yours.

If this "computer" has the power that it does, why does it need this elaborate plan, complete with the old Bugs Bunny exploding piano note bit, with these 2 losers running around?
Why crashing a crane into the building risking killing your target? Just unlock all the doors, release a sleeping gas into everyone else's office except Shia's.
Or, why does it even need Shia?

Or, why does it even need Shia?Because the computer's actions were restricted by the biometric lock placed on it by Shia's twin brother in the movie.

Here's a better idea. Instead of setting up this elaborate plot to get Shia to the Pentagon, why not just send an order to a couple of MPs to pick him up and bring him there?

Here's a better idea. Instead of setting up this elaborate plot to get Shia to the Pentagon, why not just send an order to a couple of MPs to pick him up and bring him there?
Because the whole idea is to get him there without anyone knowing he's there - especially those who are in charge of the program.

Here's a better idea. Instead of setting up this elaborate plot to get Shia to the Pentagon, why not just send an order to a couple of MPs to pick him up and bring him there?
good idea but they want to show many actions scenes .:)

Because the whole idea is to get him there without anyone knowing he's there - especially those who are in charge of the program.

Oh, come on. Staging massive swaths of destruction all through the country is somehow less conspicuous?

There are literally hundreds of millions of more plausible scenarios for the "villain" to accomplish its goals than what happened in this movie.

LOL...You guys sure do think a lot about the specifics of a movie like this. This isn't much of a thinking man's movie, though.

I, personally, like mind-numbing entertainment from time to time. The kind where you just sit back and enjoy the ride. This fits into that category for me.

There was a thread in the DVD section on this turd of a flick. And it IS a turd of a flick. Nuff said.

Great BD though. :D

LOL...You guys sure do think a lot about the specifics of a movie like this. This isn't much of a thinking man's movie, though.

I, personally, like mind-numbing entertainment from time to time. The kind where you just sit back and enjoy the ride. This fits into that category for me.

Im glad im not at a stage where im scrutinising films, I look at every film as pure fiction entertainment I try not to look at specifics or Im might as well stop enjoying films.

Im glad im not at a stage where im scrutinising films, I look at every film as pure fiction entertainment I try not to look at specifics or Im might as well stop enjoying films.This is the reason why we all watch movies.If we always pick a flaw, even some minor flaw about story,picture,sound then we would not enjoy as it should be.:)

This is the reason why we all watch movies.If we always pick a flaw, even some minor flaw about story,picture,sound then we would not enjoy as it should be.:)

Exactly!

This isn't much of a thinking man's movie, though.Truer words have never been typed.

This movie wins an award from me.


The award for the first Blu Ray movie I have stopped midway while watching because I was so freaking disgusted with it. Seriously, how did (the people that actually watched it all the way thru) you guys make it to the end? The premise was absolutely laughable, and just a total insult to my intelligence. I was watching this with my wife, and at a certain point in the movie, we both looked at each other, and we both just knew.... Then we started laughing. We couldn't believe how bad this movie was. Probably the worst movie I've seen since Broken Arrow.

Some people just can't have fun with a movie.

Some people just can't have fun with a movie.

+1 agree.

Some people just can't have fun with a movie.

I have no problem enjoying a good dumb action movie. But Eagle Eye is so astroundingly stupid that it's like the screenwriters are pointing and laughing at the audience for being conned into watching the dump they took on a sheet of paper and passed off as a screenplay.

This movies crosses the line from dumb fun to insultingly moronic. Then it looks back at the line, spits on it, and keeps charging in the opposite direction.

The people who made this movie outright despise their audience.

The people who made this movie outright despise their audience.

Eagle Eye isn't dumber than say, Armageddon or ID4... To me it's on the same guilty pleasure level (Yes I like those two giant POS as well:p)... And I really don't think I'm dumb, in fact, I even know I'm not.;)

Eagle Eye isn't dumber than say, Armageddon or ID4... To me it's on the same guilty pleasure level (Yes I like those two giant POS as well:p)... And I really don't think I'm dumb, in fact, I even know I'm not.;)

I would agree. I liked Broken Arrow, too. :eek:

:D

Broken Arrow is a great popcorn flick.

I have to say it made me chuckle reading some of the posts how this movie can insult them, I never knew this fiction movie could do it. Films that I find that insult people will be films that have a go at there religion, race and colour. If its the technology that you got insulted by and its usage well than movies like star wars ,star trek, transformers, etc.. should insult you also. Light sabers no such thing, jedi no such thing, being beamed up no such thing and robots from another planet no such thing. I guess some of you are at stage where fiction movies just don't cut it especially where its using over the top technology.

Eagle Eye isn't dumber than say, Armageddon or ID4... To me it's on the same guilty pleasure level (Yes I like those two giant POS as well:p)... And I really don't think I'm dumb, in fact, I even know I'm not.;)

Your not dumb mate your just able to enjoy to movies without having to be critical:) especially a fiction one.

We also enjoyed this flick. It's just a fun escapist ride, not something to be taken seriously. Several friends also thought it was fun, too.

Lee

You can still have a believable plot with unbelievable parts. This film had neither. I gotta say the build up was definitely great. It's only until you find out that everything just had to be so for it to turn out the way it did. That's when this movie went downhill for me.

Eagle Eye isn't dumber than say, Armageddon or ID4...

Damning it with faint praise there. The movie's also not any dumber than whatever piece of trash Larry the Cable Guy has starred in recently. That doesn't mean I endorse watching it. :)

I have to say it made me chuckle reading some of the posts how this movie can insult them, I never knew this fiction movie could do it. Films that I find that insult people will be films that have a go at there religion, race and colour. If its the technology that you got insulted by and its usage well than movies like star wars ,star trek, transformers, etc.. should insult you also. Light sabers no such thing, jedi no such thing, being beamed up no such thing and robots from another planet no such thing. I guess some of you are at stage where fiction movies just don't cut it especially where its using over the top technology.

You really don't understand what we're talking about here. The movie isn't dumb because it's science fiction or has far-fetched technology. It's dumb because it's dumb. Some movies are just dumb. This is one of them.

I thought the movie was fine.

Why, oh why didn't I read any threads before I rented this?!!? Blockbuster didn't have any of the titles I wanted to rent and since I was dropping off a mailer, I figured "what the heck". Like a previous poster, I also turned it off 1/2 way through but went back to it the next night. I'll never get those 2 hours back.

It was utterly preposterous and 100 movies have taken its plot points and done them better. At least it has really good picture and sound.

You'd that [spoiler] would know how to pronounce "Porsche."

Some people just can't have fun with a movie.

I'm able to have fun with movies that have pretty unbelievable plotlines, but give me a freaking break. This movie was so laughable, I can't even put it into words. Think of a movie like Transformers, which has some pretty terrible acting, and some cheesy plotlines. I loved that movie. Or a movie like Anaconda which again has pretty horrible acting. Anaconda for me is a guilty pleasure. It's a horrible movie to be sure, but it's so horrible that it becomes funny. This movie is even more horrible, but it never became funny, because it's obvious that the producer and director must think the audience has an IQ of 50 to actually sit through this joke of a movie.


Eagle Eye isn't dumber than say, Armageddon or ID4... To me it's on the same guilty pleasure level (Yes I like those two giant POS as well:p)... And I really don't think I'm dumb, in fact, I even know I'm not.;)


There isn't any question that Armageddon and ID4 are pretty freaking dumb. No doubt about that. But the premise behind those movies is ever so slightly believable. I mean, there is that 2 percent chance that those movies could have had some kind of basis in reality. Eagle Eye has .00000000000000000000001 chance of any kind of basis in reality. Also, Eagle Eye actually takes "itself" seriously. You can tell with certain movies that everybody that created it was kinda in on the joke so to speak. Like they knew that the movie was going to be kinda campy, and they just had fun with it. Like in ID4 when the President has that really dumb quote about how this will be our Independence day or whatever. I don't remember the quote word for word, but it was really freaking stupid, but it's pretty obvious that they intended it to come off as such, and you basically knew that they were in on the joke. I don't have a problem with movies like that at all.

I would agree. I liked Broken Arrow, too. :eek:

:D


I feel for you..... I really do, lol


Broken Arrow is a great popcorn flick.

please..... stop the epidimic!!!! For the love of all that is HOLY!

I have to say it made me chuckle reading some of the posts how this movie can insult them, I never knew this fiction movie could do it. Films that I find that insult people will be films that have a go at there religion, race and colour. If its the technology that you got insulted by and its usage well than movies like star wars ,star trek, transformers, etc.. should insult you also. Light sabers no such thing, jedi no such thing, being beamed up no such thing and robots from another planet no such thing. I guess some of you are at stage where fiction movies just don't cut it especially where its using over the top technology.

You can't group every single movie into this big pot you call fiction, and think that if one movie has zero basis in reality, and has the most preposterous plotline in the history of human civilization that every single movie ever made that takes some liberties with reality has to be grouped into that same category. It doesn't work like that. Yes, there are alot of unbelievable things that happen in various movies. Take the movie Wanted for example. I mean, lets be real. When that dudes car ends up flying over the other dudes car and he shoots the other dude through the sunroof, obviously at that point you really have to suspend your disbelief to take any enjoyment out of that movie, but I actually enjoyed Wanted for the most part. Or take a movie like Shoot Em Up. Shoot Em Up is a ridiculously over the top movie that has so many gun battles in it that are so far removed from any semblence of reality, that you just can't take anything in the movie seriously, but I totally enjoyed that one as well. Why? Because neither of those two movies really took themselves seriously, and neither one was trying to sell their plotline as something that could actually happen. The really scarry thing about Eagle Eye, is that there are some people walking around that actually think something like that could actually happen in the way that it was portrayed, now that my friend, is truly scary, lol.



By the way, just a followup to everything I posted above. Opinions are like #^*&^$*#... Everybody has one. My opinion isn't superior to anyone elses opinion. There is no question that I could be 100 percent offbase here, and that Eagle Eye is an outstanding movie that should get it's fair due. So please don't be offended by anything I said above. I'm just playing around here... having some fun. Don't get it twisted... I do think Eagle Eye is an absolute turd to the tenth degree, but nobody should really care what the heck I think.

Enjoyed Eagle Eye fully. Also really enjoyed Broken Arrow and have owned it on dvd since day 1.

I don't grasp how so of you are movie fans when you manage, in your fits of righteous anger, to determine that some movies are more preposterous than others then come online and preach against them.

If you don't like something thats fine, but assigning 'possiblity of something happening in real life' percentages to movies? Come now, I watch movies BECAUSE they have things in them that don't, and won't, ever happen in real life.

This is how you failed on multiple levels to simply enjoy yourself.

IThe really scarry thing about Eagle Eye, is that there are some people walking around that actually think something like that could actually happen in the way that it was portrayed, now that my friend, is truly scary, lol.


Well in that case it is scary.
For me on my part I enjoyed it, I guess we all have different tastes when it comes to movies. Bit like food!

"Real life" is not a benchmark for anything. How many of the greatest stories ever told begin (or could begin) with "once upon a time in a far away land"?

No, IMO, the only really useful benchmark for good storytelling -- aside from the purely subjective "I enjoyed it at the time," which is entirely legitimate -- is internal consistency.

Does the story obey its own rules? Is it internally consistent? Is the storyteller honoring the implied contract with the audience, not to treat them like fools?

Eagle Eye was by any measure a preposterous fantasy, but that fact doesn't condemn it. Star Wars and The Three Little Pigs are also both preposterous fantasies, but they are good stories for their intended audiences.

Personally, I rather enjoyed the movie (despite the fact that the "villain" had a level of knowledge that really should have included the correct pronunciation of "Porsche"), and was mostly let down by its fairly poor execution. There was nothing in the movie's internal rules to suggest that the laws of physics had been suspended in this particular fantasy world, so some of the stunts and effects set-pieces just made me laugh.

On the other hand, the premise, while not believable in real-world terms, was consistent throughout and was revealed to the audience and to the protagonists at the same time, and it was, after all, the premise -- the thing that starts the story ("imagine a world where pigs can talk and build houses").

I just thought the thing went on two scenes too long. The last shot, from above, in the Senate, should have been the end of the movie.

I don't grasp how so of you are movie fans when you manage, in your fits of righteous anger, to determine that some movies are more preposterous than others then come online and preach against them.

Some movies are just f***ing godawful. Is that really a difficult concept to grasp?

Eagle Eye is a f***ing godawful movie.

Some movies are just f***ing godawful. Is that really a difficult concept to grasp?

Eagle Eye is a f***ing godawful movie.


amen my brother! :D

I watched last night before reading this thread and at first it seemed like it was heading in an intriguing direction. Then learning it was another "let the computer control the world for the good of humanity until it gets out of control" (especially framed in todays word (or yesterdays world since it had a Circuit City)) plots was disappointing. I still suffered through the plot and enjoyed the action scenes.

Well in that case it is scary.
For me on my part I enjoyed it, I guess we all have different tastes when it comes to movies. Bit like food!Actually,I thought this film was pretty good one.:)

Some movies are just f***ing godawful. Is that really a difficult concept to grasp?

Eagle Eye is a f***ing godawful movie.

There are far more ****ing godawful movies out there than Eagle Eye (one that instantly comes to my mind is ID4, and yet this giant POS still manages to be an enjoyable guilty pleasure, and I'm not ashamed to admit it! ...go figure:rolleyes: or even The Lost World, which, as a movie, imo is worse than Eagle Eye)... Eagle Eye may be silly entertainment, but as a silly entertainment movie, it works rather well...

A) Fascinated that this thread won't die.
B) Even MORE fascinated that people are still using this thread to try to get people convinced that they should change their opinion.

Guess the cliche' of what not to discuss should change to religion, politics, and Eagle Eye.

A) Fascinated that this thread won't die.
B) Even MORE fascinated that people are still using this thread to try to get people convinced that they should change their opinion.

Guess the cliche' of what not to discuss should change to religion, politics, and Eagle Eye.


I agree on all.

I agree on all.

This film must be the controversy thread,some said it was a good film,some didn't agreed,so it came back and gone,then vice versa.:)

I saw this movie for the first time last evening. Although some of the details are implausible, for the most part, after the recent wikileaks revelations of the CIA's behavior in other countries and the practically daily reports of innocent civilians in other countries being "accidentally" killed by drones, I found it very entertaining. My one and only real disappointment was that Jerry entered the House floor about 10 seconds too early.

I saw this movie for the first time last evening. Although some of the details are implausible, for the most part, after the recent wikileaks revelations of the CIA's behavior in other countries and the practically daily reports of innocent civilians in other countries being "accidentally" killed by drones, I found it very entertaining. My one and only real disappointment was that Jerry entered the House floor about 10 seconds too early.

It was like Knowing for me, it was great till the last 20 mins

It could have been a decent action/suspense flick with a message, but the implausibility and silly, ham-fisted Michael Bay-like touches to the script, cinematography, and editing really diminished the film.

Besides, Eagle Eye was a not-so-subtle AI rip off of James Cameron's Skynet from Terminator.

I liked Enemy of the State and its hommage to The Conversation and the power of the covert branches of government (also with Gene Hackman) better for that genre of slick, modern, fast-paced thriller.

Of course Enemy of the State (EOTS) is IMO the best of the bunch when it comes to not predicting the future. The fictional bill, whose passage the fictional senator is resisting, and for which he is killed at the beginning of that movie, was in reality enacted into law -- the Patriot Act. In reality, there were not a sufficient number of heros who resisted the formal transformation of America into a surveillance state. In this case, at least, a movie did not capture the true overall spirit of America.

Eagle Eye at least somewhat explores the notion of a state corrupted by its new-found policy of "preventive war", carried out in secret. The provisions of the Patriot Act have been fully adopted and accepted, so Jerry's cache of specialized weapons, explosives-making chemicals and suddenly-acquired wealth are all nearly instantly "noticed" by the new multi-billion-dollar-infused "intelligence gathering" apparatus. But the apparatus is not intelligent enough to realize that Jerry is in reality neither a terrorist, nor a threat to "national security". This may seem implausible to this movie's viewers, but there was fairly recently, in reality, a somewhat similar case of a Canadian -- Maher Arar-- who lived a nightmare far more scary than Jerry's:
http://maherarar.net/

But Eagle Eye does fall short in some significant ways. As the producers of EOTS did, the makers of Eagle Eye have greatly overestimated the, for lack of better words, revulsion and political repercussions of the remote-controlled killing of innocent civilians.

It also misses the mark when it introduces us to ARIANA -- a computer with god-like powers, part of whose function, at least, is to assess the likelihood of "threats" to "national security". It seems that ARIANA has unknowinly been given a sort of conscience -- the notion that America's leaders who control this remote-controlled power, must use it truly in America's national interest. In her circuitry, if those leaders do not follow "her" advice and, as a result, kill innocent people, she will follow what has been written in the Declaration of Independence, remove the faulty members of the government and, finally, allow a new leadership to take control -- presumably, one that would take its responsiblity more seriously.

It's almost as if ARIANA is acting as the collective voting public -- a voting public that, unlike reality, is allowed to "see" all of the behavior "their" employees in the government.

But I think that even if the analysis of the makers' intent in this particular regard is accurate, it is still faulty. In reality, even if the public could "see" every single act of, and hear every single word uttered by, the people holding the reins of power, the next administration will be no different than any since Eisenhower.

All of the warnings that Eisenhower stated and implied in his farewell address have come true. A compelling case can now be made that the unlimited political and economic power of the military-(security-)industrial complex has completely corrupted America to its very core. Why? Because the majority of voters now, either directly or indirectly, obtain much of their livelihood from that complex. Nobody wants to rock the boat because the economy may suffer. ("I'm just looking out for number 1.")

I'd very much like to see a movie that explores this new reality. The problem is that I think that not many other people would pay to see it.

Of course Enemy of the State (EOTS) is IMO the best of the bunch when it comes to not predicting the future. The fictional bill, whose passage the fictional senator is resisting, and for which he is killed at the beginning of that movie, was in reality enacted into law -- the Patriot Act. In reality, there were not a sufficient number of heros who resisted the formal transformation of America into a surveillance state. In this case, at least, a movie did not capture the true overall spirit of America.

Eagle Eye at least somewhat explores the notion of a state corrupted by its new-found policy of "preventive war", carried out in secret. The provisions of the Patriot Act have been fully adopted and accepted, so Jerry's cache of specialized weapons, explosives-making chemicals and suddenly-acquired wealth are all nearly instantly "noticed" by the new multi-billion-dollar-infused "intelligence gathering" apparatus. But the apparatus is not intelligent enough to realize that Jerry is in reality neither a terrorist, nor a threat to "national security". This may seem implausible to this movie's viewers, but there was fairly recently, in reality, a somewhat similar case of a Canadian -- Maher Arar-- who lived a nightmare far more scary than Jerry's:
http://maherarar.net/

But Eagle Eye does fall short in some significant ways. As the producers of EOTS did, the makers of Eagle Eye have greatly overestimated the, for lack of better words, revulsion and political repercussions of the remote-controlled killing of innocent civilians.

It also misses the mark when it introduces us to ARIANA -- a computer with god-like powers, part of whose function, at least, is to assess the likelihood of "threats" to "national security". It seems that ARIANA has unknowinly been given a sort of conscience -- the notion that America's leaders who control this remote-controlled power, must use it truly in America's national interest. In her circuitry, if those leaders do not follow "her" advice and, as a result, kill innocent people, she will follow what has been written in the Declaration of Independence, remove the faulty members of the government and, finally, allow a new leadership to take control -- presumably, one that would take its responsiblity more seriously.

It's almost as if ARIANA is acting as the collective voting public -- a voting public that, unlike reality, is allowed to "see" all of the behavior "their" employees in the government.

But I think that even if the analysis of the makers' intent in this particular regard is accurate, it is still faulty. In reality, even if the public could "see" every single act of, and hear every single word uttered by, the people holding the reins of power, the next administration will be no different than any since Eisenhower.

All of the warnings that Eisenhower stated and implied in his farewell address have come true. A compelling case can now be made that the unlimited political and economic power of the military-(security-)industrial complex has completely corrupted America to its very core. Why? Because the majority of voters now, either directly or indirectly, obtain much of their livelihood from that complex. Nobody wants to rock the boat because the economy may suffer. ("I'm just looking out for number 1.")

I'd very much like to see a movie that explores this new reality. The problem is that I think that not many other people would pay to see it.

Interesting analysis and I'd say you're correct. If the movie had been more thoughtful along those lines and less Michael Bay-ish then it could have been a really terrific morality play thriller.