View Full Version : I'm ending this: 32" 720p Sharp LCD vs. 24" Sony GDM-FW900 CRT Monitor (1080p+)


PvtChurch
12-26-08, 01:49 AM
Alright I'm to damn indecisive and I can't make up my mind so I need you fine folks to do it for me. I know I've asked this before but attaching a poll this time and posting it in multiple places so I figured I'd put it here to. I'm contemplating selling my Sharp LC-32D43U and replacing it with a Sony GDM-FW900. The Sharp is a 32" 1366x768 LCD TV and puts out a great picture for what it is. The GDM-FW900 as many of you are well aware may be the finest consumer display ever produced, but it's only 24 inches (and technically only 22.5 inches viewable). This is basically a battle of picture quality versus size.

Keep in mind I've got my LCD pretty well perfectly calibrated. I'm sitting about 5 and 1/2 feet from the LCD (close enough to fully resolve 720p content at 32") and will be about 2-3 feet from the CRT (close enough to fully resolve 1080p content at 22"). Primary uses here will be 360/PS3 gaming (thank to the magic of the HDFury), secondary uses being Blu-Ray movies via the PS3, a secondary monitor, some light PC gaming, and the Wii:

Sharp LCD:

Pros:
1. Very Good PQ. Great color, decent black levels, decent shasow detail, handles motion well.
2. Lighter of the two weighing in at about 35-40lbs.
3. Bigger of the two with about 9.5 more inches of diagonal real estate
4. Without going into a lot of detail is a slightly easier cabling situation
5. Low maintentance

Cons:
1. Shadow detail, though good for an LCD, still leaves a lot to be desired. This is probably my biggest issue with it and LCDs in general as it makes it very difficult to view darker content.
2. I'm in a dorm so finding a place for it where I can sit comfortably close to it is difficult; I'm basically arranging furniture based on optimal placement of tech at this point.
3. Lower resolution at a bigger size. Not a huge deal with the PS3 or 360 as those games render at or below 720p but it doesn't make it an ideal second monitor and I'm losing detail in Blu-Ray movies.
4. Unorthodox resolution means everything ends up getting scaled up or down.

Sony CRT:
1. Perfect PQ. Spot on color reproduction, deep inky blacks, great shadow detail, and no blur or ghosting.
2. Despite being thicker I can find a place for it a lot easier due to it's smaller size (gigity)
3. 1920x1200 makes it perfect as a second monitor and ability to handle 1080p makes it ideal for Blu-Ray.
4. Ability to scan at multiple resolutions eliminates scaling and ensures that lower resolution content isn't made to look worse due to poor scaling.

Cons:
1. It's significantly smaller. Granted I will be sitting significantly closer to it so it may really not matter in the end but it's really hard downsizing.
2. This sucker's heavy weighing in at 92.6 pounds.
3. Cabling will be slightly more of a pain (not a huge complaint but worth mentioning)
4. Higher maintenance as focus pots may have to be tweaked down the line and I may have to adjust the raster size to get it to display 16:9 content properly.

So there you have it, I can't decide. I'm just too torn between perfect picture quality and bigger size. What do you guys think?

WJonathan
12-26-08, 11:24 PM
The first one. No no wait...the second one. Yeah, definitely one of those two.

PvtChurch
12-26-08, 11:54 PM
The first one. No no wait...the second one. Yeah, definitely one of those two.

Gee thanks :rolleyes: But yea, you've pretty much summed up my thought process on the whole situation.

S. Hiller
01-03-09, 04:49 PM
I much prefer the FW900 to that particular LCD. (720P is too low for my computer uses.) And of course, except for text clarity and size, the FW900 destroys the Sharp...

However, how would you hook up the Wii? (Does it have a VGA out?) And finding a good FW900 these days can be hard...

grogthegreat
01-04-09, 11:56 PM
Can't you have both? FW900s are cheap. I bought one a few days ago for $75 which I'll see for the first time tomorrow and another fw900 was on craigslist for $40 but had already sold.

You would get at least $400 for your TV which is way more than a fw900. If after seeing my FW900, my opinion changes; I'll let you know.
-Grog

PvtChurch
01-05-09, 02:18 AM
I much prefer the FW900 to that particular LCD. (720P is too low for my computer uses.) And of course, except for text clarity and size, the FW900 destroys the Sharp...

However, how would you hook up the Wii? (Does it have a VGA out?) And finding a good FW900 these days can be hard...

Well computer use is purely secondary and if I stick with the LCD it will only serve computer duty for video and gaming. As for the Wii I'd probably pick up an X2VGA box down the line (down the line being the next time I actually play my Wii).

Can't you have both? FW900s are cheap. I bought one a few days ago for $75 which I'll see for the first time tomorrow and another fw900 was on craigslist for $40 but had already sold.

You would get at least $400 for your TV which is way more than a fw900. If after seeing my FW900, my opinion changes; I'll let you know.
-Grog

No FW900's on craigslist in the state of Maine and I can never find one on eBay that ships. That only leaves AccurateIT which are $400 or $320 for an FW9012. I know the units are in fantastic condition, minus some scuffing on the case and maybe some minor damage to the anti-glare. I don't have that kind of money to throw around at the moment though so that means it's the TV or monitor, not both.

trivial
01-05-09, 04:49 PM
You may have thought of this already, but high-end CRT monitors are built to run at high refresh rates. They flicker significantly at 60Hz progressive, be it 480p or 1080p60.

This might turn into an expensive project, unless sitting close to a flickering display is no problem for you. Personally, I won't watch 720p broadcasts on any of my CRT monitors, even though one of my HDTV tuners has VGA output.

grogthegreat
01-07-09, 12:28 PM
I got to hookup and play with this monitor yesterday. This monitor doesn't take up too much more room than my 20" CRT but the screen is huge in comparison. Much more screen area than my 20". When I first turned it on, it looked really sharp at 1920x1200 but the colors and contrast ratio wasn't impressive. However, once I used the 'Image restore' function it looked like a completely different monitor. The colors are perfect and the blacklevels are amazing. I have a good amount of movies in 1080p and the clarity, detail, and 3Dness that this monitor shows completely blows away my friend's 1080p 24" LCD. This monitor is definetly worth way more than the $75 I paid.

PvtChurch
01-07-09, 03:04 PM
You may have thought of this already, but high-end CRT monitors are built to run at high refresh rates. They flicker significantly at 60Hz progressive, be it 480p or 1080p60.

This might turn into an expensive project, unless sitting close to a flickering display is no problem for you. Personally, I won't watch 720p broadcasts on any of my CRT monitors, even though one of my HDTV tuners has VGA output.

Yea that's the big concern. I've gotten mixed opinions on that but the consensus seems to be that moving content will look spectacular while menus and such may be a little flickery.

I got to hookup and play with this monitor yesterday. This monitor doesn't take up too much more room than my 20" CRT but the screen is huge in comparison. Much more screen area than my 20". When I first turned it on, it looked really sharp at 1920x1200 but the colors and contrast ratio wasn't impressive. However, once I used the 'Image restore' function it looked like a completely different monitor. The colors are perfect and the blacklevels are amazing. I have a good amount of movies in 1080p and the clarity, detail, and 3Dness that this monitor shows completely blows away my friend's 1080p 24" LCD. This monitor is definetly worth way more than the $75 I paid.

I don't suppose any of the content you watched was at 60hz? That's really the one and only concern at this point.

grogthegreat
01-16-09, 08:17 PM
I've been running everything at 60htz and I don't see any flicker. I've heard that some people are more sensitive than others but no one in my house sees any flicker at 60htz
-Greg