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Art Sonneborn
01-02-09, 11:14 AM
Please post how you feel about catalogue release rate, selection,quality etc along with your chronological age when posting.

Art

cnikirk
01-02-09, 01:48 PM
Please post how you feel about catalogue release rate, selection,quality etc along with your chronological age when posting.

Art

First let me say that I love catalogue releases. I think the release rate is "decent" but not as good as it should be. When I think catalogue, I'm expecting the older classics, such as Lawrence of Arabia, Casablanca, etc. I appreciate movies from the 80's and 90's as well.

Although I am very disappointed with releases such as Patton, The Longest Day, I am thrilled with releases like Casablanca, How The West Was Won, The Searchers, The Third Man, The Day The Earth Stood Still. We just need more like them. I just bought Becket and The Man Who Fell To Earth(hoping they are just as good).

I'm really hoping we eventually see The African Queen and Citizen Kane!

I am 36 years old.

spectator
01-02-09, 02:12 PM
I want catalog titles to come faster, as catalog is 90% of the reason I'm interested in any video format.

Day-and-date stuff? Eh... maybe 1 or 2 a year.

I'm counting down to the day I'll be able to have all of my personal top 20 films in Blu-ray. From the look of things so far, I'm guesstimating that day will happen about 3 years from now. Can I live with this? Yes. Do I want them now, anyway? YES!

I'm 33.

raoul_duke
01-02-09, 02:33 PM
I'm a 30 year old philistine, in that I want more catalogue titles, but not nessecarily the classics. I understand that studios need to put out certain 'big' titles, titles that are guaranteed to sell to that title's already established fanbase,(and pick up some new fans on the way), but most of those titles don't interest me.

I'm more interested in the 'unloved' classics, the guilty pleasures in life. I want The Shadow, I want Deep Rising,(both with excellent Jerry Goldsmith scores), I want The 13th Warrior,(hey, another Jerry Goldsmith score). There are films that for me, merit much more discussion than any of the established,(and cliched), lists of classic movies.
I'm simply not interested in Star Wars or LOTR anymore.

Regarding new releases, I can honestly say that I don't buy alot of them, simply because 99.9% of what I see is junk, and I don't blind buy. Over and out.

Gary Murrell
01-02-09, 03:56 PM
catalog titles are all that matter to me, will buy them all, new movies suck anyway

just turned 25 ;)

-Gary

FoxyMulder
01-02-09, 04:45 PM
I love movies full stop regardless of their age.

I have only been into Blu Ray since the summer of 2008 but i own some nice older movies on Blu Ray. I would say three quarters of the films i own are older movies and not new releases. I especially love the classic era of cinema from the 1930's to the late 1960's which i think was Hollywoods golden age.

Below are some movies i rate highly on Blu Ray that i own and are from the above era.

The Searchers
Rio Bravo
Dr No
From Russia With Love
Sleeping Beauty
How The West Was Won
The Day The Earth Stood Still
The Professionals

The above is just a small selection of movies but then i have only been collecting in HD a short while as i waited for the format war to end and i always wait to hear whether the transfer is any good these days which is why i wanted to buy certain films but didn't.

I'd love to buy some classic Hitchcock such as Spellbound, To Catch a Thief, North by Northwest or Marnie and i also can't wait for Lawrence Of Arabia and films like Forbidden Planet and Singin' In The Rain to hit Blu Ray.....I'll be buying The Wizard of Oz, King Kong ( 1933 edition ) Walt Disneys Pinocchio and Ben Hur this year among many other classic films to get released.

How old am i ? Well i'll be 40 later this year.....For me though age is just a number and it doesn't matter how old a film is because if i like it i'll buy it.

As far as older movies outside the golden era of Hollywood then there are many films from the eighties and nineties i would love to buy on Blu Ray but the catch is i want a good transfer without edge enhancement or DNR so i tend to wait for opinions at this site before purchasing....An exception was the first X Files movie and i got stung by a bad old transfer with lots of edge enhancement but that's because i'm a fan and bought in advance without waiting for news on how good/bad the transfer was....frankly it won't happen again as studio's don't deserve my money for bad transfers of what i consider good films.

The release rate to date of quality big name catalogue titles has i think been too slow but i see that changing in 2009/2010.....Quality remains variable though and i hope this changes and more care is lavished upon catalogue titles.

let's see more of the classical musicals get released and like i said above get the Hitchcock films out and a few more classic westerns such as The Big Country or Red River ( John Wayne's best western and possibly one of the finest westerns ever made )

kstateGRCOAT
01-02-09, 05:01 PM
I feel like catalog titles have been coming at a solid and steady rate. Everyone has a movie that they are waiting for and a lot of those wishes are being fulfilled (i.e. Godfather, Casablanca, Shawshank). Titles I'm waiting for include The Sting, Cinderella Man, Dances With Wolves, Gladiator, and the Disney Classics Peter Pan and Robin Hood.

I have been pleased with the picture quality of the majority of titles. I love the Dirty Harry series and though they aren't the greatest transfers I am more than happy with what Warner has done with them. I also love The Godfather and James Bond films and these are top notch for obvious reasons.

I'm a little disappointed in the pricing of catalog titles and am waiting to replace most of the titles I own until Blu-Ray catalog pricing comes down. I want to purchase most catalog titles at the $10-$16 price range.

I'm 23.

Good thread Art.

jvillain
01-02-09, 05:09 PM
I am far more interested in catalog than I am in current/new movies. There is some hope in the the movies that have been announced/rumoured for q1,q2 of 2009. But it isn't going to be any where near enough to quench the thirst. If they want this format to really take off they need to start getting serious. If we don't see big announcements coming out of CES then it will probably be Q4 again before we see any substantial increase. That is way, way to long. I am going to be really ticked if we have replication capacity sitting around doing nothing for a good chunk of the year.

I'm in my 40's.

N.B. Forrest
01-02-09, 05:21 PM
Dear Art:

Catalog release rate: annoyingly slow
Selection: pitiful, comparatively speaking
Quality: meh!
Age: 50-ish

spectator
01-02-09, 05:24 PM
If they want this format to really take off they need to start getting serious.

You know, the PlayStation generation being the early-adopter target for Blu-ray really indicates to me that the studios have typecast themselves into a little box. Sure, there are lots of young-ish people with disposable income and blockbuster tastes, but when has the home video early adopter market ever not also involved lots of classic cinema diehards like us?

I jumped in with HD DVD first, in part because of price and in part because of issues like region-coding, but 90% of my decision was down to one simple fact: I looked at the available HD DVD releases and saw lots of catalog classics I wanted; I looked at the available Blu-ray releases and saw little but day-and-date new release dreck.

Sure, I don't spend megabucks on market research and the studios do, but really I think one thing is clear: catalog titles may not sell in the numbers that new releases do, but they drive the kind of vocal, influential early adopters the studios want hawking and demoing their product for them- the kind of people who get so excited to show off their new toys that they'll even put one of those new release titles on just to impress their J6P friends.

KaptN
01-02-09, 06:01 PM
I'm 18 and I'm just getting more and more interested in older films that I was basically avoiding before : pre-80s films. Actually, many of my purchase list titles are catalog titles, and not recent.
But let's not forget recent catalog titles, while they're good stuff to make BD attractive, too. I particularly think to Eastwood titles releases by Warner : good job.
As for older catalog titles, I have been incredibly amazed by Sleeping Beauty. I plan to buy all subsequent Disney Platinum Edition titles, since this is a great collection and will be, i'm sure of it, a must-own on Blu-ray. Disney animated features are great movies and they deserve the same restoration and transfer than Sleeping Beauty (and even more special features on Disc-2 !).
Aside from this, many other catalog titles look worth a purchase to me. I just ordered 2001: A Space Odyssey and I plan to buy other Kubrick titles. Casablanca too, in a cheaper edition than the big collector one. How The West Was Won seems really interesting too, Blade Runner will soon join my collection, I may buy The Seventh Seal soon or later, and I'd like to get some from Welles, Hitchock, Kurosawa...
As for the video aspect, despite I don't consider EE or DNR artifacts as much annoying with my current CRT HD set, what I'm looking to in a transfer is that it is really accurate to the original release and director's intent, so that I would be able to enjoy older films in their "definitive edition" when I'll have greater gear. I'm waiting for accuracy to the original picture so that I could be sure I really invest in a solid piece of cinema History when buying an older catalog title.

brendanjc
01-02-09, 06:15 PM
I think the pace is about right for me, personally. I'd rather see definitive versions now than a number of rushed releases that will be improved upon every couple years like we saw with SD-DVD. Also, I just can't afford to purchase a dozen Blu-rays a month like some people around here, so having a couple amazing must-buy catalog releases a month is ideal for me. So far the first quarter of 2009 looks great, with 400 Blows, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, both French Connections, Akira, Silence of the Lambs, Ronin, Pinnochio, Being There, Groundhog Day, and This Is Spinal Tap being plenty for me to buy for the time being.

I agree with one of the earlier posts - it's more important to me that we see some diversity in the catalog instead of just all the money-makers we've seen repackaged on DVD over and over. The more unlikely releases from last year, like Run Lola Run or the Harryhausen set, have been some of my favorites.

Oh, and I'm 22.

xAVHTx
01-02-09, 07:27 PM
Catalogue pacing is pretty fine by me. I pick up a title a week pretty much, which is a pace I think is pretty solid. I'm a fan of quality over quantity... I'd prefer the studios to put out top notch titles rather than rush all of my favorites at once. So far it's been kind of in the middle.

I'm only 21, so haven't seen a ton of movies from the '60s and 70's but there are a lot of '80s and '90s movies I love and am patiently waiting for on blu, and titles like Raging Bull and Taxi Driver are titles I've never seen, so in many cases blind buys on blu-ray are the first I've seen of a particular title, so I'm pretty pleased with the quality.

Only drawback of catalogue titles is when they get a heavy slap of DNR and EE...

RBFC
01-02-09, 07:55 PM
I feel similar to Brendan above. I'd rather see a reasonable rate of release on older titles with the remastering job well done. Films that are just thrown out there in slapdash fashion are going to help make physical media obsolete. Folks will think, "If X isn't going to look any better than this, I'll just buy the download or rent it."

Waiting for Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur, and The Wizard of Oz, among others.

I'm 52.

Lee

BuckNaked
01-02-09, 08:04 PM
I am 41, and generally more interested in catalog than current fare.

I keep track of my collection in a spreadsheet, and of the 381 feature films I own, (I'm purposely excluding documentaries and TV shows), just over 40% are available or announced on Blu-ray and/or HD DVD. I'd say that's a pretty good ratio so early in the format's life.

Now, I don't have too many Criterions, or what would be considered "classic" films, so I may not be the best indicator, but in two years, I'd expect 90% - 95% of my collection to be available on BD.

PS - The fact that The Godfather trilogy is available in a definitive Blu-ray package continues to amaze me.

sharkcohen
01-02-09, 08:11 PM
Catalog releases have been slow. Quality has been hit and miss. 35.

Gekkou
01-02-09, 08:34 PM
Catalogue releases are what I look forward to the most. I love visiting an era when films actually looked like film.

I'm only 20 so when an older movie comes out I see it as an opportunity to experience a gem I was too young to see or appreciate the first time around. Films that I have heard of but never got around to watching suddenly pop up on my radar, ones I didn't know of are brought to my attention and I'm all the better for it.

Thanks to the buzz generated by their HD/Blu-ray releases I have been exposed to movies like Bullitt, The Searchers, The Seventh Seal, Trainspotting and Patton (though that one was mutilated).

Quality can be hit or miss, obviously excitement is dampened when a lousy source is used or has been manipulated/DNR'd to death. But when the studios get them right they are a real sight to behold; like with Blade Runner, Close Encounters of the Third Kind or The Day the Earth Stood Still.

I do wish catalogue titles would come out at a quicker pace (there are some that I can't wait to get my hands on in Hi-Def) but as it is I don't have the time or money to watch all the ones I want to that are already out. And we know what happens when a studio floods the market with rush jobs. Given the choice I'd take a trickle of high-quality releases over a trove of obsolete masters crammed onto single-layer discs sans extras.






And who'da thunk it, I was one of those 18-year-old PS3 buyers.

MrMcGoo
01-02-09, 10:04 PM
I would buy about half of the films on the AFI 100 list if they are offered on Blu-ray. Other classics are also high on my list of movies to buy. I have a copy of Mutiny on the Bounty on HD-DVD. Unfortunately, some classics are not in demand for some reason.

I'm 62 and buy current titles as well as classics. Sound is just as important as the video to me. When mono or stereo movies are converted to 5.1 sound, it's a plus for me as long as the original sound track is included.

Bill

mpalmieri1203
01-02-09, 10:31 PM
I'm really enjoying the catalogue releases so far.

Some important things I think about before making a catalogue purchases are:

Do I already own the title on DVD?
What improvements does the Blu offer over DVD?
Does the blu-ray present a faithful reproduction of director's intent?
When appropriate does the blu include the mono soundtrack?
Is the audio loseless?

Some of my favorite catalogue titles so far?
The Adventures of Robin Hood
The Third Man
Chung King Express
2001
Close Encounters
The Bond Films
Planet of the Apes(could have been better)
The Searchers
The Shining
The Searchers
The Road Warrior
The Godfather Collection
Eyes Wide Shut
Sleeping Beauty
The Day the Earth Stood Still

Some disappointments
The Harryheusen Collection
The Longest Day
Patton

I'm 28 and really looking forward to future releases as long as they are quality. I also believe price really needs to come down to the $9.99 level on some titles.

Cinema Squid
01-02-09, 11:48 PM
I feel similar to Brendan above. I'd rather see a reasonable rate of release on older titles with the remastering job well done. Films that are just thrown out there in slapdash fashion are going to help make physical media obsolete.
This is how I feel as well, at least from the perspective of purchasing and collection. I don't mind a very thin trickle of classic catalog titles as long as they have an evident sheen of TLC and completeness along the lines of Blade Runner or Close Encounters.

On the other hand, as a heavy renter, I can't say that I would be completely opposed to some mass dumping of current catalog DVD masters onto barebones BD-25 to increase HD title choice especially for older catalog films which are certainly under-represented. However "horrific" the end result, it's still going to be the best version available. If I have my numbers correct, it looks like there are fewer than 100 titles with theatrical dates prior to 1980 available on Blu-ray which is pretty light by any standard.

I probably rent about 15+ titles while purchasing 2-3 titles per month with the purchases pretty evenly balanced between catalog and "best" new releases. This is basically my maximum movie watching capacity (well, maybe a few more after the NFL season completes :)). While I could certainly buy more and rent less, I don't feel strongly compelled to change this ratio since renting is so cheap and convenient unless title prices drop below $10.

It's a bit of internal cognitive dissonance for me, since I would love to see everything given a perfectly meticulous treatment and I think an excessive dilution of the Blu-ray brand by substandard releases could be potentially harmful to continued adoption of a format that I would very much like to see succeed. At the same time, however, I'm already on the bandwagon and I'd rather not pop in a DVD ever again if I could avoid it. Content trumps disc quality in my book, so the more catalog releases the merrier.

Age: 34

Rob Tomlin
01-03-09, 01:56 AM
This is how I feel as well, at least from the perspective of purchasing and collection. I don't mind a very thin trickle of classic catalog titles as long as they have an evident sheen of TLC and completeness along the lines of Blade Runner or Close Encounters.

On the other hand, as a heavy renter, I can't say that I would be completely opposed to some mass dumping of current catalog DVD masters onto barebones BD-25 to increase HD title choice especially for older catalog films which are certainly under-represented. However "horrific" the end result, it's still going to be the best version available. If I have my numbers correct, it looks like there are fewer than 100 titles with theatrical dates prior to 1980 available on Blu-ray which is pretty light by any standard.

I probably rent about 15+ titles while purchasing 2-3 titles per month with the purchases pretty evenly balanced between catalog and "best" new releases. This is basically my maximum movie watching capacity (well, maybe a few more after the NFL season completes :)). While I could certainly buy more and rent less, I don't feel strongly compelled to change this ratio since renting is so cheap and convenient unless title prices drop below $10.

It's a bit of internal cognitive dissonance for me, since I would love to see everything given a perfectly meticulous treatment and I think an excessive dilution of the Blu-ray brand by substandard releases could be potentially harmful to continued adoption of a format that I would very much like to see succeed. At the same time, however, I'm already on the bandwagon and I'd rather not pop in a DVD ever again if I could avoid it. Content trumps disc quality in my book, so the more catalog releases the merrier.

Age: 34

Wow, I could have written this myself! Very similar to my viewing and buying habits, and how I feel about Catalog releases.

Age: 44 (as of TODAY!) :D

RBFC
01-03-09, 02:30 AM
Age: 44 (as of TODAY!) :D

Happy Birthday, Rob!:)

Lee

nilsp
01-03-09, 04:05 AM
I find myself buying mostly new movies on Blu. I don't rent. Thus my budget doesn't have much room for catalogue titles, unless they are REALLY classic and I don't already have them on DVD. I don't double dip, unless we're talking very special movies with excellent PQ/AQ. (Blade Runner, for example.)

Thus, to me, the release rate of catalogue titles don't bother me much. (I've found over the years that I actually don't watch many movies over and over again, and I've got a backlog of new movies I haven't watched. I very seldom go to the movies.) I'm about to turn 41.

Honey1
01-03-09, 05:52 AM
I am sad (but not completely surprised) that studios don't release more so called catalog titles on BD. Considering the existing cinematic wealth, I feel a decent proportion would be at least four catalog releases for one new movie. And I'd like those releases to be completely free of DNR and EE (no bargaining on this!). Among catalog releases, I'd like to see, not only films from the 70's ou 80's, but also earlier films and, especially, B&W movies from the 40's and 50's.

As an inside: did any of you guys take a look at imdb's top 250 list recently? Looks like most people have forgotten that cinema existed before Star Wars!

I am 43.

homerx
01-03-09, 08:36 AM
I'm 24 going to be 25 on the 14th..

as far as catalog titles I've really enjoyed them. I think many of the older films keep you thinking at the end of the film. I saw the entire the day the earth stood still the other day. haven't seen the full movie before. I could swere their was a colorized version on TV at some point...
any way a very god movie which looked great on BD.

also watched shawshank which I've seen many many times as its just one of those films you don't get tired of watching..

id like to see some more newman and eastwood films.

paul nyc
01-03-09, 10:50 AM
Age 36

Decent amount of catalog so far but there seems to be a ton of missing titles:

Schindler's List
Vertigo
Rear Window
North By Northwest
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Lawrence Of Arabia
M
Once Upon A Time In The West
Jaws
Heat
Seven
Seven Samurai

Just to name a few....

tsb
01-03-09, 11:07 AM
I don't really care about release rates now since I am probably over a year behind my purchases already.
I work six days a week and have two young children, so I only have time to watch one or two movies a week unless we have some holidays.

I am extremely pleased with the catalog releases on HD DVD and Blu-ray, including imports, I've gotten. Most have been well done, and I haven't gotten a lemon yet thankfully.

If I were considering US BD releases only, I would be somewhat disappointed though.

32

sdlehman
01-03-09, 11:14 AM
I would like to see more catalog releases. I am particularly interested in those that never had anamorphic SD DVD releases. The Abyss, The Shadow, Cut Throat Island, Outland, and No Escape to name a few. Would also love to see the Conan movies, Mad Max, Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

Just turned 50 today.

Stace

spectator
01-03-09, 12:11 PM
Mad Max

Yes, please!

geekyglassesgirl
01-03-09, 11:03 PM
I find myself wondering if catalog titles (heck ALL titles) are coming out too fast on Blu Ray when so many end up being sub-par or have issues with the transfer/release. I don't like the game of russian roulette I feel I am playing when I am at the store and pick up a title in my hands. "Is this one of the crappy ones?" I often wonder to myself, and I've actually put things back on the shelf and then done research on it before I'll pull the trigger on buying it (unless it's a $10 or under title). Even if the problem existed on DVD, I never even thought about it before Blu Ray/having a high def system.


Of course there are titles that I will buy regardless, especially if I don't already own them on DVD (Kill Bill 1&2 come to mind here, same as Shawshank Redemption regarding my own collection) and I am impatient with the fact that there are some movies I'd love to see in Blu Ray format and aren't out yet in North America for me to purchase easily.


If I were told all catalog releases had to stop production for say... a YEAR in order for "the industry" to perfect what they had to do to ensure that future catalog releases didn't look terrible, I'd gladly wait that year (even if I'd lose a few fingernails from chomping at the bit waiting for those 365 days to end!) to not have a feeling of Glee followed by a Sinking Pit of Dread when pondering the purchase of a new title I haven't researched first.


I'm currently celebrating the 3rd anniversary of my 29th birthday. ;)

Morpheo
01-03-09, 11:21 PM
catalog titles are all that matter to me, will buy them all, new movies suck anyway

just turned 25 ;)

-Gary

So will you buy new movies when they become catalog titles?:p;)

Morpheo
01-03-09, 11:34 PM
Please post how you feel about catalogue release rate, selection,quality etc along with your chronological age when posting.

Art

I'd like them to come a little faster, but it hasn't been that bad lately. I love new movies as much as I love older ones... In fact a lot of catalog titles were new when I was 15 so...:o:)

Unfortunately quality is debatable on a number of titles. While there are PQ issues from time to time on newer releases, catalog titles have been butchered more often... OTOH, we also get real gems like How The West Was Won and The Sand Pebbles... It won't stop me from buying them, but it sure is disappointing!

I'm 36 btw...:)

I love all kind of movies, old and new. As long as I don't see a full-frame crowd appear in the blu-ray family, I can live with EE and DNR, for now;)

Ktulu_1
01-03-09, 11:46 PM
I'm 40 (what a nightmare by the way).

I find the catalog release schedule for Blu-Ray woefully inadequate.

I'm a big fan of many a Bogart movie and I'd like to see at least a few on Blu-Ray as soon as possible. Key Largo, The Maltese Falcon, To Have and Have Not, and The Big Sleep for starters would make me very happy. Obviously if any of these movies are going to look like The Longest Day, don't waste my time.

Oh, and Rob Roy. This movie is important to me and the DVD is atrocious.

hlwl
01-04-09, 12:27 AM
I love movies from all era's. Even as far back as 1927's Metropolis.

My favorite director is Stanley Kubrick.

I am 22.

Art Sonneborn
01-04-09, 12:39 PM
My movie viewing is almost excusively on the weekends. I personally wish we could get at least one good catalog title per week or so from one of the studios. I'd love to get some of the classic titles like :

Ben Hur
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
The Big Sleep
The Maltese Falcon
Asphalt Jungle
Metropolis
Jaws
It Happened One Night
42nd Street
The French Connection
Fahrenheit 451
The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra
North By Northwest
Rear Window
Andromeda Strain
12 Angry Men
The Great Ziegfeld
Key Largo
Citizen Kane
Dracula(1931)
Vertigo
Frankenstein
Double Indemnity
Things To Come
The Thin Man
King Kong (1933)
The Woman In The Moon
Tora Tora Tora
Papillion
Spellbound
Road to Perdition

Just to get started......................

phisch
01-04-09, 09:33 PM
Pretty good list Art. I would especially like to see Metropolis and The Andromeda Strain in the near future.

Rob Tomlin
01-04-09, 09:41 PM
Art's list is good, but it should be discarded since he didn't list his age, as the OP requires.

:D

Morpheo
01-04-09, 09:43 PM
Pretty good list Art. I would especially like to see Metropolis and The Andromeda Strain in the near future.

And they better not include the Moroder soundtrack on Metropolis, or things are gonna get ugly.

xradman
01-05-09, 01:02 AM
I love catalogs. I think I own just about every HD DVD and Blu-rays of movies made prior to 1980. I wish we could get all the war classics, MGM musicals, and religious epics soon.

I'm in my mid 40s.

Art Sonneborn
01-05-09, 10:10 AM
Art's list is good, but it should be discarded since he didn't list his age, as the OP requires.

:D

Sorry,the psychology of that omission is not terribly complex.... 53.:o:D

Art

pcweber111
01-05-09, 10:15 AM
As the vast majority of my purchases so far have been catalog titles I can say that they're quite important to me. I wish we would get a better stream of titles from Universal but so far it's been OK.

I'm 31

edit

You know I'm kinda curious as to what people consider "catalog". Is it anything released past the current year or 2 years or 3 or what? Anything released within the past 12-24 months just seems too new for me to consider catalog. When I think of Rocky Balboa(2006) I don't think of it as a catalog title yet. A title like Kill Bill vol.2(2004) to me would be catalog. Maybe I'm just being too picky.

gnj1958
01-05-09, 10:54 AM
Because of my current financial situation I have to be picky about the Blu Rays I buy so I have decided pretty much to stick to buying mostly movies I don't have on DVD at all yet. Those catalog titles that have been around on SD for a while but I haven't gotten around to buying for whatever reason. I would buy a new title if the movie was good enough to justify the high prices they charge but I haven't seen any of those since I bought my Blu Ray player. I do have a couple of new titles but I only bought those because I found them for $5 each at a pawn shop.

I have been happy with the quality of the catalog titles I've bought so far. The only one I've seen that disappointed me was T2 which I rented and felt was not much better than the SD version.

Although I'd like to see a lot more catalog titles and a lot sooner I'd prefer they took their time and gave us the best quality they can rather than rush out poor quality stuff like they did in the early days of DVD.

I'm 50.

Nosferax
01-05-09, 02:03 PM
And they better not include the Moroder soundtrack on Metropolis, or things are gonna get ugly.

And yet this is the version that I like. I even tried to remix the DVD with the soundtrack to roll my own since it is not available in north america last time I checked, but i'm not skilled enough to do it.

Milt99
01-05-09, 11:05 PM
Not enough of them and not the "right" ones.
One catalog title a week or at least 2 per month per studio.
In addition, they need to spread the releases by decade.
I would consider a title being from the catalog if it is older than 5 years.
I'm 50.

Art Sonneborn
01-06-09, 12:13 PM
I know this is kind of like the wish list but listing at least a few that you'd like to see in a post would be interesting.

Art

spectator
01-06-09, 12:26 PM
I know this is kind of like the wish list but listing at least a few that you'd like to see in a post would be interesting.


"All you had to do was ask!"

Atame!
Blue Velvet
Chinatown
Citizen Kane
Das Boot
8 1/2
La Grande Illusion
Hua Yeung Nin Wa
Lawrence of Arabia
Pasqualino Settebellezze
Raging Bull
Rashomon
Rear Window
Singin' In the Rain
Vertigo
Walkabout

That's the part of my top 20 that I don't already own on BD. :)

pcweber111
01-06-09, 07:57 PM
A sampling of what I would like released:

Forbidden Planet (one HD DVD I hated to part with)
The French Connection
Alien
Aliens
Back to the Future Trilogy
Star Wars 4-6
Schindler's List
Sin City
Repo Man (Figure it couldn't hurt to release it in HD)
Ghostbusters
Lawrence of Arabia
Crocodile Dundee
Big Trouble in Little China
The Iron Giant
Se7en
Fight Club
Star Trek 1-10

And others....

MSmith83
01-06-09, 08:03 PM
The French Connection


The French Connection and French Connection II will be released next month in the US, and has been available in the UK.

The French Connection received a color timing change supervised by William Friedkin himself. The result is interesting and looks quite good to me.

Milt99
01-06-09, 08:39 PM
Here goes in no particular order:
Stagecoach
Heat
Gladiator
FOTR
The Stranger
The Last Picture Show
The Outlaw Josey Wales
High Plains Drifter
One-Eyed Jacks
Wings of Desire(Der Himmel über Berlin)
Until the End of the World(DC)
The Accidental Tourist
Touch of Evil
Dr. Zhivago
The Magnificent Ambersons
Metropolis
Men In War
The Thin Red Line

Rob Tomlin
01-06-09, 09:24 PM
I know this is kind of like the wish list but listing at least a few that you'd like to see in a post would be interesting.

Art

I can't think of any that immediately come to mind.

A great epic would be good. Something with great cinematography too. How about a great score, and good writing. Preferably a movie with some great acting, and has won numerous awards, including best picture. Being shot on 65mm would be a big plus too for all the extra detail inherent in that format.

Nope...can't think of anything that fits those standards.

;) :D

RDarrylR
01-06-09, 09:31 PM
I have over 200 Blu-rays and pretty much just have catalog titles. I'm not a very big fan of almost all new releases from Hollywood in recent years. Like Art said, 1 good catalog per week would be great for me.

I'm still probably averaging 2 Blu-ray purchases per week but there are not many more existing Blu-rays that I would really like to own. Personally I would love to see many more Criterion Blu-rays as all the ones out now I have really enjoyed and I would likely buy just about all of them even if they put out dozens per year.

I'm 34 so to me many of the older catalog titles are 1st viewings and i'm loving getting to see (and own) so many great movies that are new to me in HD.

Samfield
01-06-09, 09:37 PM
It is such a joy to view some of the top tier catalog titles when they have been handled with the proper care and respect. I thought Blazing Saddles, the Searchers and Casablanca were a revelation on HD-DVD. Grand Prix was also a terrific HD release. I would love to pick-up catalog titles like Das Boot, The Sound of Music, To Catch a Thief, North By Northwest, etc.
I would prefer a slow, but steady release schedule provided the films are handled properly. I am not as interested in volumes of extras as I am in presentation. I'm 50, but haven't grown-up yet...love the recent avalanche of super hero films on BD: TDK, Hulk, Wanted, Hellboy II, Iron Man and the ultimate guilty pleasure...Speed Racer.

Morpheo
01-06-09, 09:45 PM
I know this is kind of like the wish list but listing at least a few that you'd like to see in a post would be interesting.

Art

There you go, a few in no particular order:

-Forbidden Planet (I have the HDDVD but I want that one in every possible format, so...)
-Indiana Jones 1-2-3
-Come See The Paradise
-Tron
-Star Wars (everything, even if the last 3 suck)
-Gladiator (and please Mr Scott, this time remove the guy in jeans!)
-Alien Quadrilogy
-Once Upon A Time In America
-Back To The Future Trilogy
-Citizen Kane
-Metropolis
-M.
-Nosferatu (both the Murnau and the one with Klaus Kinski+Adjani)
-Dangerous Liaisons
-Vivement Dimanche
-Garde À Vue
-Les Tontons Flingueurs
-The Ring
-Blue Velvet
-Lost Highway
-La Traversee De Paris
-La Belle Et La Bête
-The Illusionist
-Journey To The Center Of The Earth
-3 Days Of The Condor
-All The President's Men
-Wag The Dog
-Abyss
-The Fabulous Baker Boys
-The Philadelphia Experiment
-Annie Hall
-Manhattan
-Mary Poppins
-Broken Arrow (1950)
-20000 Leagues Under The Sea
-The Time Machine
-War Of The Worlds (both versions)

Rob Tomlin
01-06-09, 10:04 PM
Here goes in no particular order:

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Dr. Zhivago
...
...


Without question one of my most wished for titles on Blu! Should look stunning. :cool:

jvillain
01-06-09, 10:29 PM
The academy awards have been running since 1929. That means shortly there will be 80 movies that have won best picture awards. Assuming BD lasts 10 years and we have wasted 2 years. That means they need to crank out nearly a best picture winner a month to get just those out. Never mind all the other award winners that really need to be out in HD. That doesn't even get us to the movies that didn't win an award but still should get a release. They really do need to step it up.

And they better be showing more than a 3 second clip of LoA at CES. I'm talking the full BD playing, finished art work, packaging, extras, release dates etc.

pcweber111
01-06-09, 10:30 PM
The French Connection and French Connection II will be released next month in the US, and has been available in the UK.

The French Connection received a color timing change supervised by William Friedkin himself. The result is interesting and looks quite good to me.

Good to know, can't wait to see the results. Thanks for the info. :)

Milt99
01-07-09, 12:34 AM
Dr. Zhivago
...
...
Without question one of my most wished for titles on Blu! Should look stunning.
My local PBS station showed this in HD last Friday night.
While not reference, it still looked good and reminded me of how truly awesome this would be with the correct treatment.
I have to admit though, like a couple of Lean's movies, by the time the film is over the "THEME" has worn raggedly thin.

I need to add Gone With The Wind to my list.
Still one of the most entertaining movies of all time.

chirpie
01-07-09, 10:35 AM
As an inside: did any of you guys take a look at imdb's top 250 list recently? Looks like most people have forgotten that cinema existed before Star Wars!


Hey now, I just went and checked and HALF of the list (125) is 1976 or before! Plus most of those modern films tend to drop after a few years, give it time, it's a pretty good cross section.

FoxyMulder
01-07-09, 10:57 AM
Hey now, I just went and checked and HALF of the list (125) is 1976 or before! Plus most of those modern films tend to drop after a few years, give it time, it's a pretty good cross section.

I can't believe The Dark Knight is considered the 5th best film of all time....It's a decent film but wouldn't get near my top 100 of all time.

Morpheo
01-07-09, 11:12 AM
I can't believe The Dark Knight is considered the 5th best film of all time....It's a decent film but wouldn't get near my top 100 of all time.

According to... imdb? ....mmkay...;)

TDK is high on *my* own list, and that's enough. OTOH, Shawshank Redemption, #1 ???? Give me a break.

chirpie
01-07-09, 11:20 AM
I can't believe The Dark Knight is considered the 5th best film of all time....It's a decent film but wouldn't get near my top 100 of all time.

Titanic used to be near the top too. Now it's nowhere near it. Like I said, give it time. ^_^ The advantage is people change their ratings all the time. (Which is a good time IMO) Dark Knight has a disproportionate amount of positive votes from the 18 and under crowd. But that crowd will grow older, realize they were a bit to zealous the first time they rated, and change their ratings in the future.

EDIT ADD ON:

Hey, I love Shawshank! (Not in my top ten, but maybe my top 25)

MSmith83
01-07-09, 11:22 AM
OTOH, Shawshank Redemption, #1 ???? Give me a break.

I agree. A movie with numerous contrived plot elements and an overly sappy ending (yes, I said it) is voted the best? Moviegoers with more eclectic tastes need to vote on that site.

Rob Tomlin
01-07-09, 11:26 AM
I agree. A movie with numerous contrived plot elements and an overly sappy ending (yes, I said it) is voted the best? Moviegoers with more eclectic tastes need to vote on that site.

I agree for the most part.

I think Shawshank is an ok film (my wife loves it, which is actually surprising to me), but I do believe that it is very overrated. Much of the film moves very slowly too (I know this is intentional, but that doesn't help).

Any site that doesn't have Lawrence of Arabia in the Top 25 should not be considered credible. ;)

spectator
01-07-09, 11:32 AM
Any site that doesn't have Lawrence of Arabia in the Top 25 should not be considered credible. ;)

QFT.


(I agree with you about Shawshank, too.)

RDarrylR
01-07-09, 11:35 AM
Anytime you have a poll that is totally open to the general public you're not going to get the most accurate results - especially with something so subjective as the "best" movies.

chirpie
01-07-09, 11:50 AM
I enjoy catalog releases, so long as they match up with my other tastes. For example. I'm a big animation buff and would love to see stuff like Lady and the Tramp, Grave of the Fireflies, Iron Giant, etc.

For the most part, I'm in the boat with others in that I like premium catalog releases in the vein of Bladerunner, Casablanca, etc. Percentage wise, catalog titles make up a decent amount of my collection. (maybe 40-50%?)

I am 31

Cinema Squid
01-07-09, 01:22 PM
Anytime you have a poll that is totally open to the general public you're not going to get the most accurate results - especially with something so subjective as the "best" movies.
It depends on how you define accurate and obviously subjective is the keyword here. In terms of reflecting the opinion of the greatest number of people, the "plebian" votes at IMDb and Netflix are going to be far more accurate than say the critical averages at Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic. Maybe this doesn't always jive with the opinions of American Film Institute members, but both metrics are equally valid and important.

luigionlsd
01-07-09, 01:50 PM
I've had an HD DVD player since December 2006, and a BD player since March 2007, and a great majority of my titles would be considered "catalog" (say, before 2004). My favorite films are 2.5+ hour epics, which are few and far between these days, compared to the '60s or '70s. I'm fairly happy with the quality and frequency of catalog releases, though I tend to choose which films I buy based on interest in content, and not so much PQ/AQ. I've bought quite a few blind buys (not surprising, since I'm 19), and ended up loving them. The recent announcement of Gigi and An American in Paris for the US certainly made me happy, since I've eaten up almost everything out of early WB's catalog (Grand Prix and Mutiny on the Bounty being my most prized HD DVD buys).

That said, I can die happy once Warner and Sony respectively release Ben-Hur ('59) and Lawrence of Arabia with proper HD audio with decent video transfers (read: two discs for the feature). Seeing Lawrence in 70mm is one of my proudest achievements in film to this point, and the HDNet presentation didn't quite replicate it. On the topic of "best film," Lawrence is certainly #1, and 2001 is #2 in my book.

TheCrackedJack
01-07-09, 01:59 PM
I'd love more catalog release, but I'm pretty satisfied with the new releases and catalogs that are coming out.

And frankly, I'd question the taste of someone who thinks new release titles like No Country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, Casino Royale, etc suck. You just forget about the heaping piles of crap that were released theatrically alongside your favorite catalog titles.

Morpheo
01-07-09, 02:10 PM
On the topic of "best film," Lawrence is certainly #1, and 2001 is #2 in my book.

To me, there are far too many different genres, it's impossible to pick a single title as "the best of all".

chirpie
01-07-09, 02:19 PM
I'd love more catalog release, but I'm pretty satisfied with the new releases and catalogs that are coming out.

And frankly, I'd question the taste of someone who thinks new release titles like No Country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, Casino Royale, etc suck. You just forget about the heaping piles of crap that were released theatrically alongside your favorite catalog titles.

That's a totally valid point, but that's a catalog title's advantage at the same time. The film has hindsight, which you can only get with time. No one remembers the mundane or lousy films from the golden age. How many people here have had to sit through Clark Gable's film "Adventure"? He's got over 70 films he was in and MOST of them are average or boring.

I'm sure there's a LOT of completely boring witless clunkers that will never surface again that were made way before the modern era. And thank goodness we'll never see them again. :-)

EDIT ADD ON:

I'm surprised marketing departments don't hammer this point home more for catalog releases. Something like, "Guaranteed to be good" It's a less risky proposition for blind buyers when a film is dearly loved by all. :-)

RDarrylR
01-07-09, 02:56 PM
I'd love more catalog release, but I'm pretty satisfied with the new releases and catalogs that are coming out.

And frankly, I'd question the taste of someone who thinks new release titles like No Country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, Casino Royale, etc suck. You just forget about the heaping piles of crap that were released theatrically alongside your favorite catalog titles.

I understand what you mean and the titles you listed are all ones I have but there are very few other (percentage-wise) Blu-rays in my large collection that are not from years ago. For every No Country for Old Men I have 3 or 4 titles from before 1990 or 2000.

Art Sonneborn
01-09-09, 07:23 AM
I understand what you mean and the titles you listed are all ones I have but there are very few other (percentage-wise) Blu-rays in my large collection that are not from years ago. For every No Country for Old Men I have 3 or 4 titles from before 1990 or 2000.

I think this makes sense. There are hundreds of good films from past decades. Even if you believe that they make just as many great films now as they did ten, twenty or fifty years ago in any given year (which I personally don't believe) just the numbers would support the idea that one would have more catalog titles if available.

Art

cobolisdead
01-09-09, 11:03 AM
I am 27 years old, and I think the catalog titles on BD are quite lacking. Not in quality(although some definitely are), but in quantity. a lot of films, great and popular films over the last few decades have yet to make it to BD. It's been a about year now since HD DVD kicked the bucket, so why haven't we seen more titles released on the remaining format? Why haven't we seen movies like Lord of the Rings, Aliens, Xmen, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, or Jurassic Park? Why haven't we seen back seasons of Smallville, Taken, Bablyon 5, or anything from any of the Star Trek series? Not even older shows either, but new ones too. Why can't I get HD versions of popular shows like Battlestar Galatica, The Office, Big Bang Theory, or Rome on BD but I can get them off of download services?

Personally, I am enjoying whats out there, but I am still waiting for so much more.

spectator
01-09-09, 11:12 AM
Why haven't we seen movies like Lord of the Rings, Aliens, Xmen, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, or Jurassic Park?

The installed-base isn't large enough to maximize the value of the requisite marketing campaigns.

s2mikey
01-09-09, 11:16 AM
37 years old. *fairly* pleased with the current catalog offerings but like anyone, I feel there are some major holes. Alien, Aliens, LOTR, Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Indy films, etc, etc. Im sure many others would like these as well. I have a list of 15-20 of my personal favorites that I'd love to see come out as Im sure ya'll do as well. As for older films, say pre-1970, I do have some interest but I also have some concerns about these films:

- Do they *really* hold up theme-wise?
- Do they hold up effects -wise. And YES, cheesey effects completely KILL a movie for me. Takes me right the hell out of it.

- Is the acting good? I ask because on more than one occassion I watched an older title and felt as if the performers were reading lines off of a sheet of paper. Wooden is the term that comes to mind. Someone once made a coment that Brando and Orson Wells started the REAL acting in movies with genuine emotion and getting "into" their characters. I dont know how accurate that comment was but I have seen some acting issues with older films. Then, of course, you have the issue of whats considered "old". Are 80's films now "old"? 90's? Where does old begin and modern start? Just new releases from 2007/2008? Hard to define, it is(says Yoda :) )

As for older titles I'd like to see: Lawrence of Arabia, although I feel it is a little long. Wizard of Oz is a MUST have for me. There are a few more but not too many since unfortunately, lots of them will NOT hold up as per my list above. I know that comment will drive the movie gurus crazy, but its true. I simply cannot get "down" with a movie that is riddled with cheese. Ya know, things like Tin spaceships, crappy sound affects, costumes for monsters or aliens where the zipper is clearly present, etc, etc. Cant do it. I also have a higher tolerance for DNR and whatever with older films. Patton is a great movie that I had never seen before until the BD release and although I do see the waxiness of it, it didnt bother me as much as many of you guys. No prob, I understand!

For those claiming that no good movies come out anymore, I say you're nuts. Thats a silly thing to say and completely unfounded. Honestly, if alls we had were movies from the 50's or earlier available on blu-ray, me and many others would get the hell out of this hobby in a heartbeat!

:D

Morpheo
01-09-09, 11:32 AM
Then, of course, you have the issue of whats considered "old". Are 80's films now "old"? 90's? Where does old begin and modern start? Just new releases from 2007/2008? Hard to define, it is(says Yoda :) )

Anything before my birth year is old to me, after 1972 everything feels pretty fresh and new, and young...:D hehe... 1980 is almost 30 years old now... When I was 8, a 30 years old movie was made in... 1950! ouch!;)

spectator
01-09-09, 11:44 AM
- Do they *really* hold up theme-wise?

- Is the acting good?

:eek:

Not sure where to begin...

For those claiming that no good movies come out anymore, I say you're nuts. Thats a silly thing to say and completely unfounded.

I'm with you here. 10 years ago, I might've agreed with those sentiments, but now I think we're in the midst of another mini-renaissance.

s2mikey
01-09-09, 01:15 PM
:eek:

Not sure where to begin...



Well, as an example, I watched The Third Man recently and I liked the story but felt the acting was pretty uninspired. Too much of a feeling of "reading from a card". The actors/actresses just seemed indifferent to me. This happens a LOT with older films, IMO. Oh well.

Rhoq
01-09-09, 01:28 PM
I feel that catalog releases are just as important as new releases. As Blu-ray continues to grow, I think it's inexcusable for studios to release a new edition of a catalog title on DVD and fail to deliver on the high definition front. If a studio believes the world needs yet another edition of whatever, prepare a definitive BD release to go along with it. At this point I only buy DVD if it's the only available format and there is no Blu-ray release in the foreseeable future. I usually limit this to "TV on DVD". I can't remember the last time I bought a new release DVD movie because there was no high def version available.

I'll be 33 in a few weeks.

Rob Tomlin
01-09-09, 04:30 PM
Well, as an example, I watched The Third Man recently and I liked the story but felt the acting was pretty uninspired. Too much of a feeling of "reading from a card". The actors/actresses just seemed indifferent to me. This happens a LOT with older films, IMO. Oh well.

:eek:

:confused:

chirpie
01-09-09, 04:40 PM
Well, as an example, I watched The Third Man recently and I liked the story but felt the acting was pretty uninspired. Too much of a feeling of "reading from a card". The actors/actresses just seemed indifferent to me. This happens a LOT with older films, IMO. Oh well.

I totally understand what you're talking about. The voices run at a snappy, monotone pace, which isn't characteristic of how people really talk.

At the same time, I actually like it, and it doesn't bother me in the least. For me, it's merely a characteristic of it's time. :-)

s2mikey
01-09-09, 04:43 PM
I totally understand what you're talking about. The voices run at a snappy, monotone pace, which isn't characteristic of how people really talk.



Right. Im not saying it makes the movie bad, but I would have been more "sold" on better performances. Like you said, people dont talk like they are speaking at an insurance seminar unless they ARE at an insurance seminar.

;)

pcweber111
01-10-09, 01:21 AM
Right. Im not saying it makes the movie bad, but I would have been more "sold" on better performances. Like you said, people dont talk like they are speaking at an insurance seminar unless they ARE at an insurance seminar.

;)

Well to be fair there's quite a few movies released today that feature very unrealistic dialog between people. Heck any Kevin Smith movie counts. Quentin Tarrantino is another perfect example. I'm fine with it though because it makes the movies enjoyable to watch, same as older films. It's just different eras and I think you have to appreciate how people acted back then. I do.

s2mikey
01-10-09, 08:51 AM
Well to be fair there's quite a few movies released today that feature very unrealistic dialog between people. Heck any Kevin Smith movie counts. Quentin Tarrantino is another perfect example. I'm fine with it though because it makes the movies enjoyable to watch, same as older films. It's just different eras and I think you have to appreciate how people acted back then. I do.

Maye so, but I question how much "acting" was actually being performed with some of these older flicks. Its a common theme I see in older films: Everyone talks at the same volume level with hardly a break in their words. Little if any emotion. I dunno.

Art Sonneborn
01-10-09, 10:00 AM
In regard to the acting in The Third Man, I honestly liked the film but Joseph Cotton did not impress me much in it (or Citizen Kane for that matter).Some of it could have been the overly sappy lines at times but still.

No doubt, the style of acting is much different the further back you go.Once you've seen lots of older films you really don't even notice it much IMO.

I feel that the pace and story are just so good in so many of these. They are simply not based on big bass and visual effects so that side of it really gets playing time.

I think if someone wants to get a nice intro into older films a great one top start with is The Big Sleep.

Art

FoxyMulder
01-10-09, 10:50 AM
Maye so, but I question how much "acting" was actually being performed with some of these older flicks. Its a common theme I see in older films: Everyone talks at the same volume level with hardly a break in their words. Little if any emotion. I dunno.

Go watch the greatest western ever made - John Wayne in Howard Hawks Red River and immerse yourself in the story.

Watch the fantastic 1933 version of King Kong which knocks socks off any of the remakes.

Watch Hitchcock's Spellbound and be captivated by a master at work.

Watch The Treasure of the Sierra Madre or those wonderful Universal horror movies which were shot on such a low budget but had so much atmosphere in them. Watch The Bad and the Beautiful with Kirk Douglas.

I could go on and on and on....Older movies have great actors in them but the style was different to now. You have to remember that everyday people you would meet in the street back then actually had different values and different ways of talking and back then you could leave your door unlocked and people were generally more polite and kids didn't carry guns and most of them treated their elders with respect and opened doors for you and movies reflected all that.

Swearing, sex, violence was limited due to The Hays code introduced in the early thirties.

Rutgar
01-10-09, 11:11 AM
On average, I think they are doing a 'fair' job of bringing out catalog titles. They have released a few of my favorites (which are too numerous to list). I think the format war hosed things up on a lot of titles. And then the end of the format war hosed things up a bit more (causing a couple of studios to have to re-group). But I think in 2009 we will see a lot more of our favorites finally coming out.

My list of titles I still want on Blu-ray (yes I know, some are 'Captain Obvious):

Alien Quadrilogy
Star Wars
Titanic
Amadeus
All of the Star Trek films and series.
Lord of the Rings Extended Editions
Deadwood
Carnivale
Rome
Lost in Space - the movie (sorry, a guilty pleasure ;))
All of the Pixar and Disney animated features
The new Battle Star Galactica
Schindler's List
Pulp Fiction
Jackie Brown
I would also like to see a lot of the old Sci-Fi classics such as 'The First Men in the Moon', Fantastic Voyage, etc. (Forbidden Planet is Fantastic on HD-DVD!)
Vanilla Sky
Magnolia
African Queen
All incarnations of 'Mutiny on the Bounty'.

This list could really go on and on. But these are the one's off of the top my head that I think I most want.

Oh yeah, age 51.

Rob Tomlin
01-10-09, 12:15 PM
In regard to the acting in The Third Man, I honestly liked the film but Joseph Cotton did not impress me much in it (or Citizen Kane for that matter).Some of it could have been the overly sappy lines at times but still.

No doubt, the style of acting is much different the further back you go.Once you've seen lots of older films you really don't even notice it much IMO.

I feel that the pace and story are just so good in so many of these. They are simply not based on big bass and visual effects so that side of it really gets playing time.

I think if someone wants to get a nice intro into older films a great one top start with is The Big Sleep.

Art

Interesting choice.

The reason I say this is because, despite the fact that I think The Big Sleep is a great movie, you have people here talking about how unrealistic and different the dialog is in older movies.

Well, if you want to give them an example of a movie with dialog that is as unique as you can get from what we have today, The Big Sleep is a great choice. The dialog is superb, but it is extremely fast paced and requires undivided attention to keep up with it.

Milt99
01-10-09, 01:18 PM
I totally forgot to add one of my all time favorite movies:
The Best Years Of Our Lives.
A groundbreaking movie in its day.
Superb characters, acting and imo, script\dialog.

Rob Tomlin
01-10-09, 01:34 PM
I totally forgot to add one of my all time favorite movies:
The Best Years Of Our Lives.
A groundbreaking movie in its day.
Superb characters, acting and imo, script\dialog.
I agree completely! Amazing movie. It would probably need some restoration work before being released on blu, but I'd love to be able to replace my DVD.

Again, incredible movie, and highly recommended viewing for those who have not seen it.

PooperScooper
01-10-09, 01:40 PM
It doesn't appear the intent of the thread was for wish lists - there's been a sticky for that for quite some time. If you want to post lists, please do it there. This forum is too busy for 2 threads doing the same thing. Thanks.

larry

spectator
01-10-09, 01:42 PM
It doesn't appear the intent of the thread was for wish lists - there's been a sticky for that for quite some time. If you want to post lists, please do it there.

With all respect, no one here was really posting wish lists until the OP came back into the thread and suggested that we do.

cobolisdead
01-10-09, 01:49 PM
The installed-base isn't large enough to maximize the value of the requisite marketing campaigns.

You see, I'd think that those movies would sell themselves.

chirpie
01-10-09, 02:01 PM
The dialog is superb, but it is extremely fast paced and requires undivided attention to keep up with it.

That's EXACTLY why it'd be in my top 25. There's more great one liners in that film than any other I can think of. :-)

spectator
01-10-09, 11:05 PM
You see, I'd think that those movies would sell themselves.

They do, but unless they also sell millions upon millions of players, they won't have a big enough audience.

Woodrow
01-11-09, 04:53 PM
I'm 39

Would like more catalog releases. I'm not really into movies made today. The quality is hit or miss regarding catalog, imo, mostly miss. Breakfast Club, Fastimes, etc,... wasn't impressed with the PQ though I enjoy having them in my collection. Enjoyed the Searchers and Casablanca Blazing Saddles, etc. I have more but won't list them all.

My #1 desire for a catalog release: It's a Wonderful Life.

When it's all said and done, not enough catalog titles are being released to make me happy.

AVSSVA
01-11-09, 10:31 PM
Like several people on here I would love to see more catalog titles. Especially Hitchcock films. The only one I see listed in the future in "North By Northwest" I'm hoping when they do start releasing Hitchcock movies, they look as good as the 1962 "Dr No". I know Lowry films restoration had worked on the Bond series a few years back. Hopefully Hitch's films get the same treatment before being put on blu-ray.

I currently own 28 blu-ray movies. My top 5 would be,

1. Live Free Die Hard
2. Dark Knight
3. Dr No
4. Transformers
5. Over America - I know it's not a movie but I think it offers some nice HD shots of our
country and cities. I probably have viewed this disc more times than any other disc I
own. Relaxing to watch on the big screen.

One thing I would like to know, is how do they decide on what to release and when?

I mean come on "Poison Ivy 4: The Secret Society"? "Repo The Genetic Opera"? Seriously what the hell is that. It's described as a horror musical starring Paris Hilton!!! Are these movies truly in high demand by blu-ray owners? Sorry, but to many crap films are being released.

Oh well, hopefully this just means they are perfecting the movies I want to see.

"Forbidden Planet"
Anything Hitchcock.
"The Thing" - 1951 Really wishful thinking on this one
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" -1956 and 1978
"The Fog" - 1980
"The Naked Jungle" - 1954. (guilty pleasure) I think this would look cool on blu-ray.
"War Of The Worlds" - 1953
"The Ten Commandments" 1956
"Fantastic Voyage" - 1966
"Kelly's Heroes" - 1970
"Three Musketeers - 1973
"Four Musketeers" - 1974
"Abbott And Costello Meet Frankenstein" - 1948
"The Great Escape" - 1963
"American Graffiti - 1973
"Towering Inferno" - 1974
"Tora Tora Tora" - 1970
"Saturdat Night Fever" - 1977 (can you imagine what the sound track will be like on Blu-ray) Not a huge fan of the movie, but the music is great.
"Grease" - 1978

I could go on and list about 100 more movies. These are several off the top of my head. For me, Blu-ray has barely scratched the surface on what I want to see, and own.


Age 36

chirpie
01-11-09, 11:01 PM
Like several people on here I would love to see more catalog titles. Especially Hitchcock films.

Ooh! I'd love to see a pristine version of Vertigo. Those interior shots with the velvet reds scream for higher resolution. ^_^

Rob Tomlin
01-12-09, 01:43 AM
I'm looking forward to North by Northwest myself. :cool:

johnbe
01-12-09, 04:33 AM
My movie viewing is almost excusively on the weekends. I personally wish we could get at least one good catalog title per week or so from one of the studios. I'd love to get some of the classic titles like :

Ben Hur
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
The Big Sleep
The Maltese Falcon
Asphalt Jungle
Metropolis
Jaws
It Happened One Night
42nd Street
The French Connection
Fahrenheit 451
The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra
North By Northwest
Rear Window
Andromeda Strain
12 Angry Men
The Great Ziegfeld
Key Largo
Citizen Kane
Dracula(1931)
Vertigo
Frankenstein
Double Indemnity
Things To Come
The Thin Man
King Kong (1933)
The Woman In The Moon
Tora Tora Tora
Papillion
Spellbound
Road to Perdition

Just to get started......................

I am 53 and this is a fine list of films that I hope they release soon. Most of the classics I view and want to own came before 1960. Until blu-ray becomes nearly as popular as dvd, I think the real classics will just be trickling out. Someone borrowed my copy of The Grapes of Wrath and now I have a feeling I will have to replace it with the dvd as I don't see it coming out anytime soon in HD. Hopefully, I am mistaken on that film as it is in my top ten of all time. As a matter of fact, there are quite a few Henry Fonda films I would like to see on blu-ray. Besides Wrath, there is My Darling Clementine, The Ox-Bow Incident, and about a dozen more.