View Full Version : Harmony 1000 vs. 1100
Maverickster2 01-06-09, 08:37 AM I read through the press release and the general description of the 1100 on Logitech's website and I can't seem to find any difference between the two other than perhaps a higher resolution screen and a different color (which seem like negligible "upgrades"). What am I missing?
TIA.
--Mav
I read through the press release and the general description of the 1100 on Logitech's website and I can't seem to find any difference between the two other than perhaps a higher resolution screen and a different color (which seem like negligible "upgrades"). What am I missing?
TIA.
--Mav
On the logitech website they talk about "new software" including better paging. Unfortunately they dont detail what this really means, and their comparison page is very clueless.
One would think the software could be updated for the 1000 as well.
Wannabe Actuary 01-06-09, 12:53 PM having been part of the beta testing for this remote and having used it for a few months now I can comment on some of the differences...
some of the differences are good news and bad news.
first the good...as you said, better screen, different color. it's subscreens are fully customizable on the left and right, allowing different buttons on each subscreen. so you could put the A B C buttons for your DVR down the left of the PVR control screen of the watch tv activity, but on the favorites subscreen on the left you can place completely different commands. it works with the wireless extender very well...in fact, unlike the 1000, it actually works very well with multiple extenders.
the bad....can't upgrade to the 1100. it requires setting up a new account from scratch. trust me, I wasn't happy about it either as we had to set up our accounts on the beta server, and then again on the live server once it moved out of the beta area. sequences are not currently on this remote. yes, activities (the basis of the harmony line) is here, but sequences are not. the technical reasons behind this have been asked to remain confidential at least for now
the so so...we had the slideshow removed. all it did was cause confusion, and people wanting to use the remote as a photo frame when in the base. the screen isn't built for that type of use and it would burn out way too quickly. like the other remotes, it doesn't work when in the charging base...again, the reasons behind this have been asked to remain confidential
IMO, it's a 'fixed' 1000 in most senses...which makes me wonder about the future of the 1000. anyone who knows me from the logitech forums knows I would never recommend the 1000. I can say that the 1100, as long as you don't need sequences, is a very solid remote.
Wannabe Actuary, thanks for the information, that is very helpful. I know you signed a contract in participating in a BETA with Logitech and can't say much, but do you personally feel there is any hope for a RF version of the Harmony One? :)
Chris
Wannabe Actuary 01-06-09, 01:04 PM my non disclosure agreement that has been signed so far is in reference to the 1100. while I do know some more information about some other remotes...I have to say that the beta testing of the 1100 took longer than expected and I don't expect to see any other remotes announced at CES from logitech....but I would highly suspect an RF One at SOME point...it's just that none of us know when.
also, I forgot to mention...the 1100 DOES have a clock. I never understood why someone wanted a clock on the remote, but this clock keeps pretty good time unlike the 800 series and the 1000 photos always showed a clock, but it never had one.
Good information, thank you. With Logitech laying off 1,000+ people recently, I'm sure things have been rocky at the company, that is never easy to deal with. Regardless, at least they came out with something, and with the bugs of the 1000 the 1100 appears to be a great improvement.
You confirmed what I just heard from Logitechs PR person -- there are no other planned announcements in the Harmony line for CES. Oh well... :(
Thanks again for the info.
Chris
Timbo2006 01-06-09, 01:16 PM I was considering holding out and buying this 1100 in Feb when it's available, but I'm not sure if I need sequences? Can you explain what that is? Kind of like macros??
Q of BanditZ 01-06-09, 01:21 PM The 1000 is about a year old as is the Harmony Logitech One. This product makes me wonder if we're about to see a simillar successor to the One be announced shortly with simillar refinements/upgrades/RF supprt, etc.
bryansj 01-06-09, 01:30 PM The 1000 is about a year old as is the Harmony Logitech One. This product makes me wonder if we're about to see a simillar successor to the One be announced shortly with simillar refinements/upgrades/RF supprt, etc.
The 1000 was released in Jan. 2007, the One was released Feb. 2008. That means you'll hear about it at CES 2010.
Q of BanditZ 01-06-09, 01:40 PM The 1000 was released in Jan. 2007, the One was released Feb. 2008. That means you'll hear about it at CES 2010.
Whoops, you're right. Sorry about that.
Wannabe Actuary 01-06-09, 02:22 PM correct, sequences are like macros...oops, looks like my contact is telling me to edit some stuff here, but at least you saw it
McGary911 01-06-09, 08:25 PM From the pic, it looks like the 1100 has added additional hard buttons for the side buttons next to the screen. That would be a nice touch. Other than the color, it appears to be the same.
Wannabe Actuary 01-06-09, 10:19 PM no additional buttons next to the screen...just some bumps to help navigate the side screen buttons by feel.
Oh, and how could I forget, they swapped the volume and channel hard keys to be the same as every other remote...volume on the left, channel on the right
After playing with a 1000 recently I would not mind trying the 1100. I like the color better and if it doesn't freeze up very often they may have a winner. I do wish they would have added a couple of extra hard buttons. With the 1000 I was using the Left and Right arrow hard buttons as Menu and Info for my Directv DVRs and also using them as Pop Up Menus and Exits for my Blu ray players. It just made things a lot easier.
Here is a good question. Can you still do a custom background with the 1100?
Another question... With the 1000 for activities if you have a "generic" one it has the same picture for each. I always wanted to use a Device pic for the "generic" activities. Is this different with the 1100? Would I be able to use Device pics for some activities? That would be great since sometimes at first glance all 3 of my "generic" activities all look alike... :)
vancouver 01-07-09, 11:57 AM IMO, it's a 'fixed' 1000 in most senses...which makes me wonder about the future of the 1000. anyone who knows me from the logitech forums knows I would never recommend the 1000. I can say that the 1100, as long as you don't need sequences, is a very solid remote.
a fixed 1000 should come as a firmware upgrade not a new product.
Any idea if they will let 1000 owners trade the clearly "broken" product in for this? Perhaps some trade in value at least?
I wouldn't only not recommend the 1000, but as a result of the response to the issues with this product from logitech I wouldnt recommend Logic. Essentially there are more problems with logitech's response or lack of to the 1000's then the actual product itself.
mrigsby 01-07-09, 01:11 PM My biggest peev is the trouble with updating it. Half the time it doesn't connect to the computer or looses connection If they orrect that with the 1100 it'll be a winner
If they offer a credit for turning in your 1000 for an 1100, I'm all over it and would get the 1100 in a heart beat.
No sequences? I have the 1000 and thought I was using sequences when I click on an activity.
No sequences? I have the 1000 and thought I was using sequences when I click on an activity.
An example of a sequence would be steps you must go through with the factory remote for you TV to turn on High Brightness Mode. You would create a sequence stating to select "Menu", "Down Arrow", "Down Arrow", "Enter", "Select". This would mean, open the menu on the TV, go down the menu twice, press enter on the highlighted option, use select to choose High Brightness. You could call this sequence "Hi Bright" and use a button on the remote to automatically do it.
An Activity example would be Play a Game on Xbox:
1: Turn on TV, choose input HDMI
2. Turn on receiver, choose input HDMI2
3. Turn on Xbox 360
You could then use a hard button for example like "Previous" and attach the Hi Bright Sequence to it so the TV would be bright and beautiful.
I know its confusing.
Wannabe Actuary 01-07-09, 07:39 PM yes to custom backgrounds
no idea about trade in credit on the 1000
still no custom icons for activities
no problems with updating or freezing
Thanks for answering. I didn't mean custom icons for activities. I meant being able to use the Device icons for the activities. I called them and asked them about that and they said future software would be able to do it so I was hoping the 1100's might... :)
Denophile 01-07-09, 08:07 PM [QUOTE=vancouver;15484831]a fixed 1000 should come as a firmware upgrade not a new product.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:confused::eek::confused: :eek:
seems like the 1000 should be firmware upgradable to the 11--wonder if its a money grab due to hard financial times. we do tend to be a 'need to have the latest and greatest " kinda crowd....
Wannabe Actuary 01-07-09, 09:03 PM trust me...as soon as we got the remote and learned about it we asked about how it would be marketed because it was tough for us to see how it was anything more than a fixed 1000
nokian93 01-08-09, 02:15 AM Well i just got a 1000 for christmas and now that i have it set up, it has been an awesome remote. I love it. But now i got to thinking......should i return it and wait for the 1100 in february or just stay with the 1000. Have they said what the price on the 1100 is gonna be?
vancouver 01-08-09, 02:47 AM Wannabe,
Are you able to comment on wether these issues with the 1000 are fixed with the 1100?
1.) Volume run off ( i believe this only happens when paired with RF extender)
2.) High Pitched squeel when remote is on docking station with screen lit.
3.) Slow response between screens
I have read as much as what has been posted on the 1100 online and I cant find anything that makes this remote better then the 1000. Unless they are not releasing some special specs it really looks like it is a fixed 1000.
Basically to 1000 owners its a $500 firmware update packaged in a black remote.
The thing about the clock is funny. Not only was it in pictures on the 1000, but its an option in the software to display it in 24hr our 12hr (even today). It was also announced or supposed to come in summer 2007 as part of a firmware update which was canceled. Thats according to a "level 2" customer service person.
I am just looking back on the notes I kept on the conversations I had with Logitec regarding the problems with the 1000 since Feb of 2007 when I bought the thing. All I can say is wow.
I thought I read the 1100 would have a MSRP of 499...
Wannabe Actuary 01-08-09, 07:02 AM Wannabe,
Are you able to comment on wether these issues with the 1000 are fixed with the 1100?
1.) Volume run off ( i believe this only happens when paired with RF extender)
2.) High Pitched squeel when remote is on docking station with screen lit.
3.) Slow response between screens
I have read as much as what has been posted on the 1100 online and I cant find anything that makes this remote better then the 1000. Unless they are not releasing some special specs it really looks like it is a fixed 1000.
Basically to 1000 owners its a $500 firmware update packaged in a black remote.
The thing about the clock is funny. Not only was it in pictures on the 1000, but its an option in the software to display it in 24hr our 12hr (even today). It was also announced or supposed to come in summer 2007 as part of a firmware update which was canceled. Thats according to a "level 2" customer service person.
I am just looking back on the notes I kept on the conversations I had with Logitec regarding the problems with the 1000 since Feb of 2007 when I bought the thing. All I can say is wow.
1. I tested it for some time without the extender and am using it now with the extender...I've never had any runaway commands.
2. never had the high pitch noise in the dock...although some said that was contrast related during the slideshow...the 1100 has no slideshow
3. I never used the 1000, so I can't compare, but the screen transitions are pretty quick
Thanks for the good explanation on sequences :)
smokinghot 01-08-09, 11:08 PM The fixed 1000, oh sorry, the 1100 won the CES 2009 Best of Innovation.
lol....
Am I ever glad I didn't make the trip to go to that show. If black paint and a firmware fix is the best CES had to show, this is going to be a very sad year for home electronics.
Maybe it was a beauty contest? :D
vancouver 01-09-09, 12:06 AM 1. I tested it for some time without the extender and am using it now with the extender...I've never had any runaway commands.
2. never had the high pitch noise in the dock...although some said that was contrast related during the slideshow...the 1100 has no slideshow
3. I never used the 1000, so I can't compare, but the screen transitions are pretty quick
Thank you for the reply
vancouver 01-09-09, 12:10 AM The fixed 1000, oh sorry, the 1100 won the CES 2009 Best of Innovation.
lol....
Am I ever glad I didn't make the trip to go to that show. If black paint and a firmware fix is the best CES had to show, this is going to be a very sad year for home electronics.
I would have loved to talked to the people at the Logitec booth about this thing!
Here is what I would have asked.
1.) As a 1000 owner should I look at this as a possible upgrade?
2.) what does this remote offer that a "working" 1000 doesnt? BTW do you plan on making the 1000 work?
3.) If you were me and owned a 1000 what would you do in order to get it working properly? Would you be frustrated? Would you see the 1100 as anything but a slap in the face?
4.) Are you surprised that as a 1000 owner I am frustrated that the 1100 looks only like what my 1000 should be, or at least was promised to be?
5.) If I was going to post your response to my concerns/questions what would you like to be the official response to be?
smokinghot 01-09-09, 01:12 AM 2.) what does this remote offer that a "working" 1000 doesnt? BTW do you plan on making the 1000 work?
#2 takes it in my book
:)
Wannabe Actuary 01-09-09, 07:23 PM like I said, the beta testers were invited into the beta test...they setup a 'secret' part of the logitech forums for us to correspond with each other and a logitech Q&A guy...then they told us about the remote before we got it...almost all of our responses were: "so it's a fixed 1000...so, what's the marketing campaign going to be"
by the way, when we got it, it was in more of an 'alpha' stage than a beta stage
So will it be out in Feb for sure?
Wannabe Actuary 01-09-09, 09:43 PM logitech should have no problem making a February launch...I was just commenting that it was pretty raw when we started testing a few months ago
Wow, the Harmony 1100 got the CES "Best Innovations" award for 2009? Lame! It doesn't even support sequences. I've heard the 1000 and 1100 are practically the same hardware wise, just a different firmware. Harmony should suck it up and let the 1000 users upgrade their remotes if they are unhappy with the sub par performance of their remotes. Of course, marketing/execs wouldn't allow that so as to not cannibalize sales of their new flagship remote. Nice. It's a fixed 1000? Maybe the programming department just needs more resources to do their job properly the first time around. Good luck to them.
They should have asked me to BETA test for them... ;)
And who do you have to sleep with to win that award? :eek:
bryansj 01-10-09, 08:48 AM CES has a Best of reward for everything. I think it is like how youth sports are nowadays where everyone is a winner. For example these crappy headphones
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/06/psyko-audios-5-1-surround-sound-headphones-actually-look-psycho/ got the "Best of Innovations Award".
I remember those days... Everyone was given a stupid red or blue ribbon... :D
pcolmer 01-12-09, 08:50 AM So if the 1100 doesn't support sequences, are there any recommendations on how to implement something similar?
For example, at the moment, on my Pronto I have a macro to toggle the subtitles on my Sky (satellite) box on and off. This is the help button, followed by the right button followed by the OK button.
If I cannot programme the 1100 to do something like that as a sequence, can I (easily) have the buttons on screen? I don't mind pressing the individual buttons - I just didn't have the space on the Pronto screen when I was setting it up. I'm trying to understand how flexible the 1100 is when it comes to screen layout, soft buttons, etc.
Thanks.
--Philip
bryansj 01-12-09, 09:00 AM I don't think sequences are never going to show up on the 1100, it is just that it was removed during the software rewrite. It should be back by release or soon afterwards, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
vancouver 01-12-09, 01:28 PM Wow, the Harmony 1100 got the CES "Best Innovations" award for 2009? Lame! It doesn't even support sequences. I've heard the 1000 and 1100 are practically the same hardware wise, just a different firmware. Harmony should suck it up and let the 1000 users upgrade their remotes if they are unhappy with the sub par performance of their remotes. Of course, marketing/execs wouldn't allow that so as to not cannibalize sales of their new flagship remote. Nice. It's a fixed 1000? Maybe the programming department just needs more resources to do their job properly the first time around. Good luck to them.
If the marketing execs feel that giving 1000 owners a 1100 asa trade in would cannibalize their sales then they are dumber then I thought. What 1000 owner would buy another product from Harmony, or spend $500+ to simply get a working version of what they already have?
vancouver 01-12-09, 01:28 PM like I said, the beta testers were invited into the beta test...they setup a 'secret' part of the logitech forums for us to correspond with each other and a logitech Q&A guy...then they told us about the remote before we got it...almost all of our responses were: "so it's a fixed 1000...so, what's the marketing campaign going to be"
by the way, when we got it, it was in more of an 'alpha' stage than a beta stage
Curiously...did they respond to your questions about it being nothing but a "working 1000"?
smokinghot 01-12-09, 01:38 PM What 1000 owner would buy another product from Harmony, or spend $500+ to simply get a working version of what they already have?
The same type of person that will upgrade their Harmony One for the RF version with silver paint, and kung fu grip. :rolleyes:
...remember this post, it will happen.
Wannabe Actuary 01-12-09, 11:45 PM Curiously...did they respond to your questions about it being nothing but a "working 1000"?
unfortunately our contact for the testing was (rightfully so) a Q&A guy...he had no information on marketing plans/strategy
Wannabe Actuary 01-12-09, 11:47 PM So if the 1100 doesn't support sequences, are there any recommendations on how to implement something similar?
For example, at the moment, on my Pronto I have a macro to toggle the subtitles on my Sky (satellite) box on and off. This is the help button, followed by the right button followed by the OK button.
If I cannot programme the 1100 to do something like that as a sequence, can I (easily) have the buttons on screen? I don't mind pressing the individual buttons - I just didn't have the space on the Pronto screen when I was setting it up. I'm trying to understand how flexible the 1100 is when it comes to screen layout, soft buttons, etc.
Thanks.
--Philip
there is plenty of screen space...you have the 4 different subscreens for each activity...one of which is the 'star' subscreen where you can place any commands you want from any of the devices in the activity...the 'main' part of that screen holds 6 commands per page, pages aren't limited as far as I know...each of the 4 subscreen areas has 4 commands on the left and 4 commands on the right...those 8 locations can be customized...and can be customized differently for each subscreen if you want.
there is plenty of screen space...you have the 4 different subscreens for each activity...one of which is the 'star' subscreen where you can place any commands you want from any of the devices in the activity...the 'main' part of that screen holds 6 commands per page, pages aren't limited as far as I know...each of the 4 subscreen areas has 4 commands on the left and 4 commands on the right...those 8 locations can be customized...and can be customized differently for each subscreen if you want.
What Wannabe Actuary is saying is that you have plenty of screen real estate to add a number of commands used in your macro ... and then press them individually, one after the other, with one of your fingers as necessary :D
Wannabe Actuary 01-13-09, 07:15 AM What Wannabe Actuary is saying is that you have plenty of screen real estate to add a number of commands used in your macro ... and then press them individually, one after the other, with one of your fingers as necessary :D
exactly...I myself have used 5 different harmony models now (880, 890 with extender, One, 510, 1100 with extender) and never had a need for sequences
smokinghot 01-13-09, 07:30 AM exactly...I myself have used 5 different harmony models now (880, 890 with extender, One, 510, 1100 with extender) and never had a need for sequences
Forgive me, but aren't "sequences" just Harmony slang for macros...?
If that's the case, doesn't anyone else think that for what you're paying it, seems a little bottom shelf not to have this ability...? Even my OEM AVR remotes have this capability.
I hope I've got this wrong...:confused:
Forgive me, but aren't "sequences" just Harmony slang for macros...?
If that's the case, doesn't anyone else think that for what you're paying it, seems a little bottom shelf not to have this ability...? Even my OEM AVR remotes have this capability.
I hope I've got this wrong...:confused:
Damn, you must be buying better stuff than I can afford. None of my gear allows macros.
smokinghot 01-13-09, 10:32 AM Damn, you must be buying better stuff than I can afford. None of my gear allows macros.
:o
My onkyo AVR (703) remote has three hard buttons that allow basic activity switching. It's certainly limited...(can't remember how many steps), but it does do macros. Regardless the 703 definitely isn't a high end piece.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/smokinghot1/onkyo875remote900.jpg
They are located under the numeric keypad section.
Wannabe Actuary 01-13-09, 09:30 PM yeah, my onkyo 806 also has them...
:o
My onkyo AVR (703) remote has three hard buttons that allow basic activity switching. It's certainly limited...(can't remember how many steps), but it does do macros. Regardless the 703 definitely isn't a high end piece.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/smokinghot1/onkyo875remote900.jpg
They are located under the numeric keypad section.
Yep, you are buying better than me. I buy Jensen!!!
So I wonder if the 1100 will be available early or late Feb? :eek:
Wannabe Actuary 01-15-09, 07:13 AM if it follows the One from last year, it'll be early Feb.
but honestly I don't know
bryansj 01-15-09, 07:42 AM I'm not sure I'd want the first batch off the production line (not that I want one anyway).
If you don't want one then why are you reading about it here?
smokinghot 01-15-09, 11:14 AM If you don't want one then why are you reading about it here?
Sorry, but why do I need to have everything I'm interested in to be on my short list for purchase...?
I have zero desire to own any Harmony let alone the 1100... Am I breaking some rule by posting in this thread?
Absolutely not but if you don't have a Harmony and no desires to have one then why give advise against getting one when they first hit? Do you know something that actual BETA testers don't? Or is that just a general rule you have?
bryansj 01-15-09, 11:59 AM If you don't want one then why are you reading about it here?
I like to keep up with what's going on in the world of remotes. Also, this thread isn't the Official 1100 Future Owners Thread. It is the 1000 vs. 1100 thread where I'd think that lessons learned from the 1000 should be applied to the 1100. Being critical of the initial production run of the 1100 would seem to apply to this thread.
So from the extensive beta testing of the 1000 where all the bugs and glitches were worked out prior to production :rolleyes:, it might be wise to take a wait and see approach to purchasing the 1100.
vancouver 01-15-09, 12:56 PM Personally I plan on warning as many people as possible to stay away from the 1100 until I feel harmony has handled its 1000 customer properly. Heck I am considering going to my local best buy when its released and standing next to the display to talk people out of it :P
bryansj 01-15-09, 01:33 PM You would probably do more public good by standing next to the Monster cables and preaching monoprice.com's good name. I doubt there will be any campers waiting at the door for a 1100.
smokinghot 01-15-09, 07:18 PM Absolutely not but if you don't have a Harmony and no desires to have one then why give advise against getting one when they first hit? Do you know something that actual BETA testers don't? Or is that just a general rule you have?
Well for the record I didn't say anything about avoiding it on opening day. However from what I have read/heard from the beta testers for the 1100, it doesn't seem like anything to write home about. Now being on the beta testing team, I would think it not their best interest to give the advice that your commenting on. There is no reason why I can't though...if I did in the first place.
Even forgetting about the above point. With the screw job Harmony has given the 1000 owners with the release of the 1100. IMHO do think it prudent to hold off on opening day, if for no other reason than the likelyhood (going by track record) that it will have it's issues, and those issues may not be fixed until the next model release.
No one need listen to me....but it's my .02
Wannabe Actuary 01-15-09, 08:19 PM actually, from what I've told, the beta testers actually had hardware revision 2 devices...
hardware revision 3 is actually what will be sold (minor interior changes).
also, for those wondering about the differences, internally it has a completely different processor than the 1000
That's actually interesting that the internal processor is different than the 1000. That to me makes it more than a "fixed" 1000.
smokinghot 01-15-09, 10:20 PM That's actually interesting that the internal processor is different than the 1000. That to me makes it more than a "fixed" 1000.
Out of curiosity, what will you be doing with your old 1000 when you upgrade.
*edit:
Never mind... I went back through this thread and from what I can tell, you don't have one. Makes me understand your non-"fixed" opinion. I wonder how many original 1000 owners agree with you.
vancouver 01-16-09, 12:08 AM That's actually interesting that the internal processor is different than the 1000. That to me makes it more than a "fixed" 1000.
wait...
What difference does a "different internal processor" make? Its totally possible the only thing it offers is the ability to NOT let 1000 owners use the 1100 firmware.
Unless i missed something its doesnt seem like the "different processor" is netting different results or features.
vancouver 01-16-09, 12:09 AM internally it has a completely different processor than the 1000
Does this translate to any benefit for the end user?
wait...
What difference does a "different internal processor" make? Its totally possible the only thing it offers is the ability to NOT let 1000 owners use the 1100 firmware.
Unless i missed something its doesnt seem like the "different processor" is netting different results or features.
exactly, maybe that's the excuse Harmony is looking for ... because the new firmware definitely runs on the regular 1000 hardware (albeit requiring some tweaking, nothing that couldn't be accomplished from what I heard)
Actually when I had the 1000 (not to long ago) it worked quite well. I only had an occasional freeze up. I programmed it to do 11 components (including lights and my Carada Masquerade Masking System)... I did not have any other issues with it. I did not use as RF though. I only returned it because I heard about the 1100.
Wannabe Actuary 01-16-09, 07:04 AM 1100 hasn't froze on me at all...screen transitions are nice and fast...I don't know if that's processor related or not, but that's much different than the 1000
That's why for me the 1100 would be fine. I guess I can see where others are coming from if they are not happy with their 1000s. I will pull out of this thread and just post in the owner's thread when the time comes.
smokinghot 01-16-09, 07:35 AM I only returned it because I heard about the 1100.
Very fortunate for you that you were able to return it. Well, not that you got lucky or anything, but the timing of 1100 announcement corresponding within the allowable period of return, worked in your favour.
In all honesty though. Would you be standing by your "non-upgrade" opinion, if you weren't able to get your 1000 investment back? ...sure it's easy to say yes, but I bet behind closed doors, you wouldn't be very happy.
1100 hasn't froze on me at all...screen transitions are nice and fast...I don't know if that's processor related or not, but that's much different than the 1000
Probably more to do with the fact that the remote is now based on a Flash UI rather than Java running on top of a Linux distro ... much less overhead. I would guess it has little or nothing to do with the processor as the 1100 firmware was seen running nicely on regular 1000 series remotes.
dancolestock 01-18-09, 02:19 PM I saw the Harmony 1100 in CES 2009 reviews, and have been considering one for my elderly parents, who are relatively healthy but have poor eyesight. They have an HDTV with DISH and they're switching over to Verizon FiOS and probably TiVo HD - a good time to upgrade remotes.
Best Buy in Kennesaw GA has Logitech Harmony 1100's
in stock for $499 (ouch)
Here's some details on mine:
- Setup software files on included CD are dated 6/12/2008
Logitech Harmony Remote Software 7.5
- After you register on the Logitech Harmony website,
you can download the latest software and firmware for
your remote (the LH 1100):
- Logitech Harmony Remote Software 7.5.0
(latest as of 1/18/09)
- Firmware IMG REV 06.09.03.00 (displayed when LH 1100
boots up, just after LiIon battery is installed)
- No Reset/reboot function (must remove battery or
reboot with software via USB)
- 3.7V 1250 mAh Lithium Ion battery L-LU18
(cellphone-style flat pack w/3 gold contacts)
- Logitech one year limited hardware warranty
- Best Buy 30-day return policy
- Slideshow is available under Settings menu
- Connection to PC via USB is indicated by checked USB
logo displayed on LH 1100 screen
Issues:
- Had issues with the software hanging up occasionally
(might have been me, not sure; using notebook PC
with slower USB 1.1 port, several browser windows
open, etc)
- The Firmware update/upgrade seemed to go OK, but it
aborted before it finished:
LH1100 reports:
FIRMWARE UPGRADE SUCCESSFUL
Please update your remote with the remote control
software.
Software reports:
Step 4 of 5 Rebooting Harmony Remote: 95% complete
Step failed Updating region : No response - The information was not sent. Check your USB cable and try again. If the problem persists, contact customer service.
Software Show Status window:
Initializing services ...
Firmware version 6.9
Region [0]: 6.4
Region [1]: 6.9
Region [2]: 6.9
Region [3]: 6.9
Region [4]: 0.0
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Logitech Harmony 1100 newbie
try a different computer.. could be a faulty usb port....
BB has them in already! :eek:
dancolestock, the problem you are describing might be remote related but more than likely (99% probability I would say) it is a problem with your internet connection and/or computer. I've heard of numerous problems from FIOS customers updating Harmony remotes (no idea what the problem might be, just that Harmony remotes would continue failing updates like yours). problem could be firewall/antivirus/router, internet provider related, computer software interference, computer usb trouble, usb cable defective, etc. the first logical step would be try another computer using a different internet provider; not a corporate/work computer as those are typically behind corporate firewalls/proxies and cause the same type of problems.
it would be good to start a new thread for troubleshooting your remote so we don't hijack this thread with responses. good luck, hopefully the 1100 is being released as a product ready for the market.
Themoth 01-19-09, 11:11 AM BB has them in already! :eek:
get them while they're hot..
I would only if I had a coupon. After taxes it is even more than amazon.
Amazon has them for pre-order at $499 but no expected release date on thier site. Hopefully, once Amazon has them in stock they will lower the price. I've had the 1000 on my wish list for over a year and it's been $399 or lower ($299 for awhile) even when BB still sold them for $499. I recently removed the 1000 from my wish list and added the 1100. I'll most likely get it when Amazon has it for $399 or less. Hopefully, I won't have to wait too long.
I went ahead and grabbed one today from a BestBuy. Used a coupon so it wasn't as bad... WIll get working with it soon... :)
osofast240sx 01-23-09, 03:24 PM Amazon has them for pre-order at $499 but no expected release date on thier site. Hopefully, once Amazon has them in stock they will lower the price. I've had the 1000 on my wish list for over a year and it's been $399 or lower ($299 for awhile) even when BB still sold them for $499. I recently removed the 1000 from my wish list and added the 1100. I'll most likely get it when Amazon has it for $399 or less. Hopefully, I won't have to wait too long.
have you looked into the urc mx3000?
danhawk911 01-23-09, 11:47 PM get them while they're hot.. there so hot right now we dont even get a discount on htem yet:confused:
Wannabe Actuary 01-24-09, 05:24 PM there so hot right now we dont even get a discount on htem yet:confused:
haha, I've been using mine since back around October/November
squareeyes 01-30-09, 12:03 PM joerod started a new thread for 1100 owners:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1112372
Fanaticalism 02-01-09, 08:09 AM BB had the 1100 for 50 bucks when it became available in their wharehouse through employee pricing, which I am sure was a mistake. The Mag supervisor told me there were 100 in their district wharehouse, and 20 minutes later they were all gone lol. BB def ate a nice chunk of change with that mistake.
Fanaticalism 02-01-09, 08:14 AM I have to say that I am with Vancouver on the 1000. This thing is a heaping pile. I have all of components in a rack in a closet in the outside hallway, so I NEEDED the RF. Needless to say that it doesn't work, so I need to keep the rack pulled all the way out to work.
The 1100 is pretty sleek looking though, but I am going to consider the MX3000 from Universal. It has a similar UI, and from what I have heard from owners, it is leaps and bounds better than the UI that Logitech implements.
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