Didn't see it posted already, but apparently 1up has been bought out and EGM has been axed. Kinda disappointing considering how long that magazine was around.

how do i go about getting my money back for my free subscriptions?

Well, it says that the parent company of the company that bought them out is Herst which publishes a lot of magazines, so maybe they will keep it alive in some form.

I'll always be thankful for EGM. I learned the most important lesson in my life concerning reviews from them. After they gave Herzog Zwei (Genesis) scores of 3 and 4 (out of 10), I learned to judge things on my own.

Sign of the times man.. print mags are steadily dying. Just wait until everyone has a phone with superfast internet access in 10 years. You wont be able to find a magazine.

I remember about 10-12 years ago, EGM used to be thick, full of information. Nowadays they are as flimsy as victoria's secret catalogs with more ads than info.

I remember about 10-12 years ago, EGM used to be thick, full of information. Nowadays they are as flimsy as victoria's secret catalogs with more ads than info.

Yep, I remember EGM referring to them as "phonebooks" in the early 90s. I still have lots of my back issues going back to 92... I lost my first two years(including their first issue) in a flood years back. The magazine has only been "decent" for a long time, but it's still nice to have toilet reading.

Those mid 90s issues were still nothing more than toilet or airplane fair. I had a stack of them since I was in college at the time, the reviews were always biased towards the big name stuff, and the quality was dismal. Seemed like whenever it got bigger it was just to sandwich more ads in.

I'll always be thankful for EGM. I learned the most important lesson in my life concerning reviews from them. After they gave Herzog Zwei (Genesis) scores of 3 and 4 (out of 10), I learned to judge things on my own.

What? That was is one of my all time favorite games!!

If only they'd release it on the PSN and Live! I'd pay top dollar for it, even if they didn't update the graphics or slowdown, just the ability to play online against others. Soundtrack is still badass IMO :D

I paid for it in the 90s and had plenty of free subs in the 2000s, but I loved EGM. It was a good bathroom rag that generally lasted a couple weeks with me. I'm not making buying decisions on their reviews or anything, but it was good to read up on upcoming stuff and read some impressions of recent releases.

Seems the end is here but I think it'd be cool if they continued it. 1up.com has never really been a site I visit so I guess I'll just stop reading a bunch of writers I've been reading for years.

and i still had like 2 years worth of free magazines left

A shame to see any of them go that have been around for so long , I still have their first issues packed away ... bummer :( .

- Jason

Probably LONG overdue. Ziff should have gotten out of print some time ago. I was sad to hear there were layoffs in the podcast dept. I always liked the personalities at 1UP.

Funny... I just went over to 1UP.com (http://www.1up.com/) to see what was up, and a pop-up for EGM @ $1 an issue came up. :p

Sad though :( -- I've subscribed for years, at least since the early 90s, and I don't think I've missed an issue. EGM, GameFly and Netflix are about the only thing I look forward to in my analog mailbox these days. The magazine went through some low periods, but lately there's been a couple really good issues -- the last two were somewhat weak though.

When I was a kid in 1994 and there was no internet EGM was the magazine. But they never evolved to meet the internet. Obviously the news from the internet is an instantaneous thing. But I felt like they didn't even try the last year or two. The magazines were very very thin. There was very little original content. That kind of content would have saved the magazine or at least delayed its demise.

What are these "magazines" you speak of? Are they like these "newspapers" that my grandparents speak of? That reminds me of the Simpsons when Brockman swears on the news and and nobody see it. As Comic Book Guy says: "No, I didn't see your news broadcast. I get my news off of the internet like everyone else"

j/k of course. Shame to see them go, as I do have my free subscription. I figured they were in trouble when they started giving the magazine away for free. That just seems like a bad business practice :)

Times have changed, magazines no longer hold the relevance they used to. I mean, its sad to see an old-staple go, but there's a reason for it. These days if you want to look at up to the minute screenshots of some new game on the toilet, you just drag your laptop in there with you :)

I've got a stack of dusty magazines in my closet from around 2000 or so....PC Gamer, OXM (obviously from 2002 or 03) and some playstation magazine I subscribed too. Even back then the web was making these magazines irrelevant, I bought them almost exclusively for the pack-in CD's theyd come with. Man I must have a stack of PC GAMER demo discs from 1 to like..50....before broadband made downloading the preferred delivery method.

On the other hand, the magazines I have from the early 90's and from the early 80's (wish I'd saved more than a handfull of them) are fun to look through, if just as much for the fashion and technology as they are for the articles themselves. I've even got, somewhere archived off VHS, a review from xmas of 1990.....where a local reporter did a 10 minute piece on videogames at the same Electronics Boutique that is still at the same local mall today, only about 1/4 of its original size. The manager, I have to laugh, in the piece is like a 40 year old well dressed woman and the employees are all wearing dress shirts and ties...a far cry from today. He talks about the Nintendo, the
gameboy, the sega handheld with color screen....all very interesting, but I watch it and I dont get that "man thats a long time ago" feeling.....I get that feeling about stuff from the early 80's, but not about SNES or Genesis...still seems recent, even tho its not. :P

I started working at EB in 1998. I had to wear a dress shirt and tie to work. That's how I learned to tie one. Now I go into that same store and its just gross. You can't even walk around it. Sad.

Anyway, yea, EGM. Those old phonebook issues of EGM (and GameSpot, and EGM2, and Ultra GamePlayers, and so forth) may have been biased and had fanboy quality writing but it was a sign of the times! Gaming wasn't the OMGSERIOUSBUSINESS it became after PSX, and Next-Gen (the first "serious" gaming magazine, at least in the USA). During 16-bit it was still a teenager's hobby, with cheaper games to make, tons of character based platformers ("with an attitude"), endless crappy movie-based games (Wayne's World), digitized voices being a big deal, silly buzzword nonsense (blast processing, SuperFX, ACM modeling, etc.), SNES vs. Genesis. It was just a different time, goofy even, and those crappy phonebook issues were a reflection of that.

Magazines simply are running out of rhyme and reason with the widespread use of the internet. Any information you can get from a magazine is usually a month old by the time its released to the public, and if a magazine does get some kinda inside scoop before an internet news website does.. then guess what happens.

Somebody scans the magazine and puts the article on the internet.. lol



I wont say I feel sorry for the mags.. because its just change and its bound to happen. How was information shared before magazines, it was simply told from person to person. The information has always been there, you just have to know how to adapt yourself to the change of how its delivered, and roll with the times.

We live in a time and age, where more people want shyt now. And Im dont mean now, I mean RIGHT now. So you have to reinvent your news outlet to deliver that. The same will eventually happen with most audio and video, all thats needed is enough bandwidth and devices capable of accessing all that bandwidth.

I imagine 25 years from now there will be no print newpapers or magazines, cds, dvds, BR disk, or whatever. Hell your computer might not even have a harddrive. The majority of data will be stored out on the internet and accessible thru any CE device within seconds at your fingertips.

Want to watch that WWF Battle Royal PPV special from 1989 in the bathroom, while on the toilet taking a shyt?? No problem. You just have to use your finger (hopefully its clean) to click on the LCD screen in front of you and open a new window. And close the background window you were reading, you know the one that was showing the Playboy issue from 2011 with Sarah Palin, butt azz nekkid on the cover.

Or you can leave them both open, and watch the PPV on 1 half of the screen and Sarah Palins azz on the other.

EGM died when Dan Hsu left. Seriously though it is sad to see it go. I miss getting my information from magazines. I remember when I was a kid getting so excited when a new issue of Nintendo Power, EGM, or PSM would come in and I'd get my monthly news fix. God I'd read those things cover to cover 10 times a month, despite the fact that I frequented Gamespot and IGN daily. O well, rest in peace EGM :(

...assuming we still have unlimited electricity and can still afford all those electronic gadgets in the future, I agree. But really, newspapers and magazines are just one good electronic breakdown away from coming back into fashion :)

Also remember, not everyone has the internet. I mean, we tend to take it for granted, but then again all of us are obviously buying $400 systems and $60 games and for the few thousand of us who haunt this place regularly, there are 300 million people in this country and alot of them can only get online if they go to the library.

All magazines aren't dead, just the underperforming ones are...there will still be game magazines, a few perhaps, but not the racks of them that we used to have.

Outside of GamePro and PC Gamer, which are both pretty terrible, there are almost no gaming mags left.

Outside, of course, of the official ones. So in other words if your mag isn't a soulless mouthpiece for Nintendo or Sony or MS the gaming community as it exists today doesn't want to read you. Damn, I'm totally out of touch.

...assuming we still have unlimited electricity and can still afford all those electronic gadgets in the future, I agree. But really, newspapers and magazines are just one good electronic breakdown away from coming back into fashion :)

Also remember, not everyone has the internet. I mean, we tend to take it for granted, but then again all of us are obviously buying $400 systems and $60 games and for the few thousand of us who haunt this place regularly, there are 300 million people in this country and alot of them can only get online if they go to the library.

All magazines aren't dead, just the underperforming ones are...there will still be game magazines, a few perhaps, but not the racks of them that we used to have.


The same could be said of Cell phones 10 years ago.. or even telephones 40 years ago. Hell electricity itself a 100 years ago.

I realize there are still many communities worldwide that live happily without cellphones or electricity, but the general majority dont. Eventually you get to a point where change itself it just so dominant and overwhelming you have no choice but to go with the flow.

My 62 year old mom sent me a text message the other day. Forget EGM shutting down, that was a much bigger sign how much technology was taking over. lol

Don't much care about EGM. Once Next Gen came out, it revealed how bad EGM really was.
I used to read Next Gen cover to cover, even the stuff I didn't care about. They had the best writers. Wish I saved more of those magazines. Best game magazine ever made. Aside from it's originator Edge, which still prints in UK. If I felt like spending $75 to have a subscription imported I'd be all over it.

IMO EGM was actually pretty good this generation. They sort of found their legs ahead after flopping around during the PS2 era.

I didn't read EGM much but I'm really going to miss the podcasts. 1Up Yours was great. A depressing day for me.

I remember getting the very first issue of EGM and thought it was great (that was a LONG time ago)! I do wish that I didn't purchase a multi-year subscription, though, as it looks like I probably wasted the money. I know that I get more updated news on the internet, but for some reason I always liked reading that physical magazine. Ah well.

I didn't read EGM much but I'm really going to miss the podcasts. 1Up Yours was great. A depressing day for me.

:eek:

...wait, 1up Yours is now dead also???? Is this confirmed?

:eek:

...wait, 1up Yours is now dead also???? Is this confirmed?

I read this on a 1Up board last night.

This terrible news came from Matt Chandronait's blog
"Gamevidoes will still exist. No podcasts. Video or otherwise"
http://twitter.com/talkingorange

"1up yours confimed dead by garnett on his facebook and twitter"
http://boards.1up.com/zd/board/message?board.id=games&thread.id=981770&view=by_date_ascending&page=3

But then I just saw this...
http://boards.1up.com/zd/board/message?board.id=games&thread.id=982959

Maybe not quite gone, guess we just need to wait it out...

Ahh EGM, I remember reading those things 10x over as a kid...too bad I tossed em all at some point growing up. Good luck to those involved.

And yes, there's a huge thread on Neogaf about the Ziff deal with confirmations from many of the 1up staff themselves.

Looks like 1Up was going to disappear no matter what in the not too distant future...UGO appears to be saving only the parts they think they can make a buck on. Podcasts are outta here.

Man this sucks!:mad: I don't care about EGM, but I listened to 1up Yours Religiosly. I've been trying to listen to other videogame podcasts, and they are all terrible.:( I've been working my way through all the videogame podcasts on itunes with explicit content warnings on them.:p 1up yours was one of my top 3 podcasts I listened to. I don't remember who, but a couple of people on AVS Forum were saying they were going to start a video game podcast. Godspeed. I desperately need a podcast to replace 1up yours. Do you guys know of any decent multi platform video game podcasts?

EGM > GamePro

Don't much care about EGM. Once Next Gen came out, it revealed how bad EGM really was.
I used to read Next Gen cover to cover, even the stuff I didn't care about. They had the best writers. Wish I saved more of those magazines. Best game magazine ever made. Aside from it's originator Edge, which still prints in UK. If I felt like spending $75 to have a subscription imported I'd be all over it.

Next Generation is still probably the best game magazine ever, I still have about 6-7 years worth of those. The first few years were some of the best game magazines bar none.

I personally could care less about the EGM magazine (feel bad about the cutting of staff of course) since it was of pretty shoddy quality, especially when you compare it to mags like Edge. I think that the real loss is the 1UP Show, which I looked forward to every week to get some great game footage of the upcoming titles... I hope that they either bring that back, or someone else picks up the slack.

Those guys (David Ellis, Garnett Lee, Shane Bettenhausen, Matt C. (not spelling that name) and Ryan) are too talented to not reappear somewhere. The economy is in shambles but video game hardware and software sales are through the roof. This niche segment is doing very well and there are a ton of gamers who looked forward to both 1Up Yours and the 1Up show every week to not have it reappear in some form, on some other website, at some point in time.

I agree with others here. I like Major Nelson's podcast, but couldn't get through one episode of Joystiq's, only listened to a few of the Chatterbox shows, and only listened to Nelson and Natalie for about a month. Surely these guys will reappear somewhere soon, right?

Per gaf, some of the guys are teaming up to re-open one of their dormant blogs - I believe it's something like eat-sleep-game.com

ALL the 1up podcasts are gone? I get them confused with the IGN ones (its all voices, the wimmins are about the only ones I can tell apart) but they certainly had some good episodes. I went through a lot of the "amature" podcasts a few years back and prefer the quality the professional reviews/writers bring to the table. I would be willing to financially support a good series of podcasts, though I bet those guys could easily get enough sponsors to keep it free for listeners.

ALL the 1up podcasts are gone? I get them confused with the IGN ones (its all voices, the wimmins are about the only ones I can tell apart) but they certainly had some good episodes. I went through a lot of the "amature" podcasts a few years back and prefer the quality the professional reviews/writers bring to the table. I would be willing to financially support a good series of podcasts, though I bet those guys could easily get enough sponsors to keep it free for listeners.

I would be willing to spring some money to keep something like 1UP Yours alive. Right now, only the Giant Bombcast is the only "professional" podcast worth listening to. Maybe also Gamespot, which used to be the best but now is barely listenable.

Taken from http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348125

Episode 1 of Rebel.fm Podcast. (ex-1UP FM) #1
http://www.eat-sleep-game.com/news/

Official Direct link : http://eat-sleep-game.com/podcasts/rebelfm01-07.mp3


Quote:
Won’t you please welcome Anthony Gallegos, Nick Suttner, Philip Kollar, Matt Chandronait, Ryan O’Donnell, Jade Kraus, and me, as we bring you the opening salvo of Rebel.fm. It’s on, bitches.

PS: Yes, quality not so good for a lot of it, but bear with us. Things will be better next week. Promise. Even if we have to bring in a ringer to show us how it’s done.



Here's a few extra download links provided by the community,

Direct : http://rapidshare.com/files/180986750/rebelfm01-07.mp3

Torrent : http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4631379

Direct : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HIAFCI3J


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Here are the twitter addy's I have for the guys in this weeks podcast, I'm not sure if jade has a twitter, if she does post it up and I'll edit it in.


Anthony Gallegos - http://twitter.com/Chufmoney

Nick Suttner - http://twitter.com/nsuttner

Matt Chandronait - http://twitter.com/talkingorange

Ryan O'Donnell - http://twitter.com/ryanodonnell

Arthur Gies - http://twitter.com/aegies


I think that's right, I'm just sooooooooo tired, haven't went to bed yet and it's 9am now, I'll correct any mistakes tonight when I wake up.


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Thanks guys for your all your hard work and managing to still get a podcast out to your fan base during this obviously difficult transitional period, this just goes to show the dedication and diligence you guys have, much respect.

Next Generation is still probably the best game magazine ever, I still have about 6-7 years worth of those. The first few years were some of the best game magazines bar none.
I may still have the first 3 issues somewhere. It was definitely heads and tails above the competition when it debuted if for no other reason than it respected the age and intelligence of its readership. Before that I think I preferred DHGF to EGM since it seemed like they actually played the games before reviewing them.

Video Games and Computer Entertainment FTW!
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Wow--I'm actually stunned! I knew something like this was coming (see Ziff-Davis filing for chapter 11 last year) but I didnt see the house of cards come tumbling down all at once. This is a pretty big deal. I dont really visit many gaming websites anymore, but rather listen to Podasts at work. It's so much more appealing for me.

Although I wasnt the biggest 1UP Yours fan (once Luke Smith left, it went down hill for me) but I still enjoyed listening to it from time to time. For me the best 1UP network Podcasts were 1UP FM and Retronauts. I feel those guys could articulate their views and opinions well--especially Nick Suttner's.

This also leads me to wonder exactly how much the poduction dept's operation cost amounted to over there since they were doing the 1UP Show (video) and several audio podcasts. I'm guessing it was quit a bit. Doing these things takes a decent amount of time and money (one might be surprised how much the annual cost is in regards to time consumption and $--no one I know of does Podcasting for a living), and I can only hope it helps greaten people appreciation for Podcasters in general (in any genre). It's always kinda bummed me out a bit to see some people carp about trivial things when they're getting something entertaining for free. If it's not enjoyable--cool move on. And I dont mean to imply that there can be no constructive critisism either (our Podcast has grown considerable in quality due to listener input)--but it's the immature rallying that can go on that bothers me. It's kinda like someone bringing a batch of cupcakes they spent their free time making to work for everyone to enjoy and one of those co-workers who doesnt enjoy them seeking that person out and berating them. This might be a bit of an exageration, but I'm just trying to make a point. I've guess what I'm saying is--I've always supported anyone who does a Podcast because I think it's ultimately a good thing and it's just a fun hobby. I love it! I love that we live in an age where this is possible dont you? I hope some good can come out of all of this.

More importantly I hope those people find jobs and land on their feet safely. I hate to see anyone get canned as it's stressful and sad for everyone and never a good thing (at first). For me personally when I was layed off a few years ago, it actually turned out to be a really great thing for me in the end.

That is truly unfortunate. They were easily some of the best out there. Hopefully they move on the way the guys at Giant Bomb have. The 1Up Show is great and 1Up Yours (while maybe a bit pretentious at times) is easily the best gaming podcast on the net (though the GiantBombcast is close). Nobody else carried such interesting conversations about games whether you agreed with them all the time or not and actually stuck to the topic must of the time. Unlike the IGN podcasts which are absolutely terrible.

I just cant beleve that there will be no more EGM :(:(:(:( I have every issue for more than 11 last years and truely trust only their reviews. Last few issues was heading in direction i dident like ( PC previews & reviews, no more 3-man review for every game, Dan left editorial,axing1-10 and adding F-A scores ...) but still I always supported them. I know that i will never buy any other gaming magazine ever again and just have to rely on internet. I actually learned about avs forum in one of theirs themes about HT when they recomended this forum. Ah, I will never forget how great EGM was expecially in PS1-N64-Saturn era.
RIP EGM YOU WILL BE MISSED :(

The problem is the publishing companies failed to realized they were in the content business, not in the print business, or the news business. That their true value to the reader is in the editorial process. So axing the editorial/creative staff is *exactly* the wrong thing to do.
Most specialty-news pubs are either dead (PC Mag, EGM, etc) or withering away (the car mags) simply because the lag between editorial and publishing is just not competitive with electronic media. Oddly enough, there is a simple business model that would allow these mags to stay in business yet none of them to date have adopted it; the pdf-mag (or equivalent). I was shocked to discover that the founder of Car and Driver and Automobile had gone that route but the quality of the content is at least as good as its treeware competitors and they do seem to be well-positioned for when color ebook readers appear, next year...
At a minimum, these guys need to start looking into email-delivery of emags, even if only to PCs, preferably with accelerated (weekly?) publication. Otherwise blogs will take over and that is not a good thing.
There is a need for a more formal, news reporting-and-analysis format than the web-blogs' stock in trade...
And there is definite need for cross-platform reporting to bridge to fanboy FUD walls...
We need more options, not less.

Looks like 1Up was going to disappear no matter what in the not too distant future...UGO appears to be saving only the parts they think they can make a buck on. Podcasts are outta here.

Garnett Lee has already tweeted that we will see future "Weekend Confirmations". So I'd expect some iteration of 1up Yours or something similar. Of course, it won't be the same 1up Yours that we know and love but its not completely dead.

Matt and Ryan also hinted via twitter that a video podcast may be in the works. (Matt looking for A/V equipment).

So when I thought all was lost, I now look forward to RebelFM, Ryan/Matt's project, and whatever 1up puts out. And yes, "1up-lite" has some work to do to win back some fans.

I've posted a thread on this same subject on the Playstation area with some links to Jeff Green and Sam Kennedy's take. High Drama! ;)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1105591

And here's another twitter to add to the above list.....

Phil Kollar - http://twitter.com/pkollar

UPDATE:

Ryan O'Donnell is asking for musicians that would like to contribute to a "1UP Show-like" project to start cooking up some stuff. He's looking for indie, rock, hiphop, shoegaze, pop, whatever.

www.twitter.com/ryanodonnell

UGO preverts everything it touches

We are definitely seeing the growing pains as traditional print media sources seek to survive in a internet digital age. I've already seen TONS of on-line medical sources go to a subscription service to support themselves as their traditional print mags drop in popularity. Or big companies buy up the free sites and convert them to pay sites.

We will HAVE to start paying for internet content at some point. I think gamers, and youths in general, are pretty loath to buy stuff on the internet. We are both used to getting it for free (as an adjunct to a once larger print service) and know that SOMEONE will copy the product and we can essentially pirate it.

So I have come to the realization that I need to start supporting my favorite podcasters with $$$, or at least make the effort to use their links to buy music or products. Rebel FM seems like a good place to start! They are a KNOWN factor, and hopefully with their connections they can continue to get interviews and early peeks at stuff.

For those interested, Rebel FM just popped up on iTunes.

For those interested, Rebel FM just popped up on iTunes.

How is the show? Is it mainly video games?