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Sunday January 18
Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1, 2-0) @ Arizona Cardinals (9-7, 2-0)
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3pm

Baltimore Ravens (11-5, 2-0) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4, 1-0)
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6:30pm

Regardless of who wins, the NFC representative in the Super Bowl will have 9 regular season wins. One game above 500.

At least the Eagles were banged up and playing in the best division in football....what's Arizona's excuse?

Eagles 30
Cardinals 17

No idea on Balt at Pitt...should be good though!


What's the expected kickoff time for first game?(3:30?)

Why play hard when you've already clinched your division and aren't realistically in the running for a first-round bye? The Eagles played hard, the Cards played smart. Cards 24, Eagles 20.

I'm picking Cardinals vs Ravens in the Superbowl.

I don't think anybody can stop the Ravens defense. They intercepted the ball 5 times in the last two games plus they caused 3 fumbles.

I believe Pittsburgh defense and offense are superior to Baltimore. Pittsburgh also beat Baltimore twice(at least once for sure) in the regular season. I have the Eagles and Steelers in a Pennsylvania Super Bowl

Yep - All Pennsylvania SB.

Pittsburgh over Baltimore 25-13
Philly over Arizona 34-20

I have 2 tickets to the NFC Championship game, lower level, 20 yard line, plus a parking pass if someone wants them. Only problem, the game will be played in a different stadium 2,141 miles away.:mad:

Remember all the problems that the Cardinals had in getting its playoff game vs. Atlanta sold out (needed two extensions)?

Guess what? Once they knew they were going to host, they sold out the NFC championship game in less than 10 minutes! So, no blackout in Arizona for this one...

Why play hard when you've already clinched your division and aren't realistically in the running for a first-round bye?

yep....the cards clinched the division & couldnt get a bye anyway so why kill themselves for nothing.

thats why they should change the seeding rule....qualify the 6 teams as they do now but seed by record....so chargers win the division at 8-8 & still would get a playoff spot....but they should be the 6th seed & play at the 3rd seed....wasnt fair they were home against a 12-4 colts team.

winning your division should clinch u a playoff spot....not necessarily a home game though.

also then teams like the cards might try & win more games even after clinching to improve seeding.

Or, looked at another way, nine more than the Lions. :)

Regardless of who wins, the NFC representative in the Super Bowl will have 9 regular season wins. One game above 500.

yep....the cards clinched the division & couldnt get a bye anyway so why kill themselves for nothing.

thats why they should change the seeding rule....qualify the 6 teams as they do now but seed by record....so chargers win the division at 8-8 & still would get a playoff spot....but they should be the 6th seed & play at the 3rd seed....wasnt fair they were home against a 12-4 colts team.

winning your division should clinch u a playoff spot....not necessarily a home game though.

also then teams like the cards might try & win more games even after clinching to improve seeding.

System's good the way it is - the focus is on your own division. You can't compare records from different divisions because opponents are different.

I might consider weighing a head-to-head game in the seeding if they played each other during the season (Indy played @ SD and beat them), but that's not really a good idea either because it may involve a #6 leapfrogging a #5 and that may not be warranted.

Remember all the problems that the Cardinals had in getting its playoff game vs. Atlanta sold out (needed two extensions)?

Guess what? Once they knew they were going to host, they sold out the NFC championship game in less than 10 minutes! So, no blackout in Arizona for this one...


They even increased the seating capacity to 70,000+ for the game, which I thought the NFL didn't allow.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/01/11/20090111cardsellout-CR.html

Or, looked at another way, nine more than the Lions. :)Literally, yes.

Figuratively, it's more like nine thousand more than the Lions.

Regardless of who wins, the NFC representative in the Super Bowl will have 9 regular season wins. One game above 500.

Actually, the Eagles are more than one game above .500
9-6-1

I am hoping for a Cardinals/Ravens Superbowl. But I think it is going to end up Eagles/Steelers :vomit

Actually, the Eagles are more than one game above .500
9-6-1
Anyone know if a team that had a tied game during the season ever went to the SB?

The Baltimore Colts won Super Bowl V after an 11-2-1 season. The Super Bowl IX winning Steelers team was 10-3-1.

There have also been some losing teams with ties - the Chiefs in I, the Dolphins in VI, the Vikings in XI, and the Broncos in XXII.

actually, the eagles are more than one game above .500
9-6-1

1.5?

The Baltimore Colts won Super Bowl V after an 11-2-1 season. The Super Bowl IV winning Steelers team was 10-3-1.

There have also been some losing teams with ties - the Chiefs in I, the Dolphins in VI, the Vikings in XI, and the Broncos in XXII.

That Steelers team was in SB IX.

Philly chokes like every year.

Cardinals Vs Ravens.

Cardinals Vs Ravens.

You and every other Cowboy fan. If it is PITT vs PHILLY, I can't wait to see the Cowboys boards to see all the suicidal Cowboy fans trying to figure out who to root for. :D

^^ somebody changed their signature.
^^ somebody changed their signature.

:D

You and every other Cowboy fan. If it is PITT vs PHILLY, I can't wait to see the Cowboys boards to see all the suicidal Cowboy fans trying to figure out who to root for. :D

:)

Go Birds!!

^^ somebody changed their signature.
^^ somebody changed their signature.

:D

Saturday night - after the Panther game. :(

At least the most important team is still in there.

Saturday night - after the Panther game. :(

At least the most important team is still in there.
remember that i said it here first, that express train with the whistle blowing is the ravens train led by ray lewis. get out of the way or we will run over you on the way to the superbowl.

remember that i said it here first, that express train with the whistle blowing is the ravens train led by ray lewis. get out of the way or we will run over you on the way to the superbowl.

Did they charter a bus? Hope they can find tickets before showing up in Tampa.

Did they charter a bus? Hope they can find tickets before showing up in Tampa.
that's actually pretty original thinking so i won't take pity on you or say" i told you so" when we win.

that's actually pretty original thinking so i won't take pity on you or say" i told you so" when we win.

Even if you win, we'll still have won 2 out of 3 - so the joke is still on you. Ha ha. ;)

Ravens win 16 - 10.
Cards win 28 - 21.

Wish my Colts were still in it... :(

I'm picking Cards/Ravens!

:)

Go Birds!!

Yeah, the RED and PURPLE birds.

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~hurley/Towel-Anim2.gif

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Please anybody but the Steelers, I couldn't take listening to their obnoxious fans how this team is the greatest ever for another year.

Please anybody but the Steelers, I couldn't take listening to their obnoxious fans how this team is the greatest ever for another year.

That's ridiculous. Everyone knows the '78 Steelers are the greatest NFL team ever.

Yeah, the RED and PURPLE birds.

It is so hilarious that you are in the middle of nowhere PA and will have to watch an all PA Superbowl with no dog in the fight, roflmao.

It is so hilarious that you are in the middle of nowhere PA and will have to watch an all PA Superbowl with no dog in the fight, roflmao.It's also amazing he's on an HD forum....guarantee is #1 favorite is "deerhunterforum.com".:p

I lived in Berks County before moving down here. I'm not sure Shilington residents realize they are in PA - or out of the 19th century. :D

It is so hilarious that you are in the middle of nowhere PA and will have to watch an all PA Superbowl with no dog in the fight, roflmao.

Yeah, I guess Allentown is somewhere. :rolleyes:

It's also amazing he's on an HD forum....guarantee is #1 favorite is "deerhunterforum.com".

Sure, whatever that means:confused:

I lived in Berks County before moving down here. I'm not sure Shilington residents realize they are in PA - or out of the 19th century.

You are a Steelers fan, but wearing a Panthers jersey? Don't hurt yourself falling off bandwagons.

I lived in Berks County before moving down here. I'm not sure Shilington residents realize they are in PA - or out of the 19th century. :D
delusion is best when you are a true believer

You are a Steelers fan, but wearing a Panthers jersey? Don't hurt yourself falling off bandwagons.

Steelers fans are capable of wearing many different jerseys and remain loyal. That photo was from an Atlanta @ Carolina game - not much point in wearing a Steelers jersey to that game.

If I were going to an Olympic event between Canada and North Korea, I'd probably wear something with a big maple leaf on it. Doesn't mean I'm going to instantly be polite, start watching hockey, and become afraid of the dark.

Steelers fans are capable of wearing many different jerseys and remain loyal.
Are Steeler fans also capable of having a username with an opponent team's name in them, as well?

Are Steeler fans also capable of having a username with an opponent team's name in them, as well?

Yep.

That's a holdover from before their first game - sometime after deciding to move to Charlotte when I put my name on the PSL waiting list. I was promoting their new franchise - just like you are promoting The International Guild of Handhooking Rugmakers, but I'm sure you have some machine made floor coverings in your home.

Please anybody but the Steelers, I couldn't take listening to their obnoxious fans how this team is the greatest ever for another year.

We're not obnoxious, just proud. If you are a Pats fan, you guys have no room to talk. Dynasty? What would have happened had you not had the tapes of other teams signals. If you are not a Pats fan, I apologize.

We're not obnoxious, just proud. If you are a Pats fan, you guys have no room to talk. Dynasty? What would have happened had you not had the tapes of other teams signals. If you are not a Pats fan, I apologize.

LOL! Just like I said about Steeler fans, never give an opponent any credit for their accomplishments. It's all about them and nothing else matters.

BTW: The Pats record the last two seasons since they havn't been able to cheat. 29-6, best in the NFL. Yeah it was all about the cheating that won them games before! :rolleyes:

I'm not trying to take away from their accomplishments. Brady is an excellent leader and I have been a fan of Maroney since his days at Minnesota. That fact remains though that the organization was caught cheating. Perhaps cheating helped them beat the Rams and Eagles in the superbowl a few years ago.
I also think Shawn Merriman, someone caught using steroids, should be banned from the game forever. I just strongly dislike cheaters. Sorry to make it sound like the Pats have no talent and just cheat, that's not what I meant.

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That is effing beautiful!

As for the Patsies, the Patriots during their so-called dynasty were a one man team; without Vinitiari (sp?), they wouldn't even have won one Superbowl: Tuck rule game, Vinitiari wins the game; SB vs. Rams -- Vinitiari. And I think even the SB vs. Panthers was won by a last second fg by Vinitiari. Maybe you can give them the SB vs. the Eagles, but would they have gotten there without cheating?

Oh, and I guess Brady is good too, but to say that the Patriots have been great since they stopped cheating is a farce. First of all, how do we know that they've stopped cheating; they cheated once, repeatedly, so we know they will try to cheat again. Any self-respecting team would have fired the arse-hole Belichek for cheating, but not the Patsies; what a joke of a team. I was so damned happy when they were knocked out of the playoffs.

Yes, the Steelers will beat the Ravens (we're in Flacco's head) and the Cards will upset the Eagles. Tomlin will beat Whisenhunt and the Steelers will be the first NFL team to win 6 Lombardi trophies. Had the jag-off O'Donnell not gifted the Cowboys with the game in 95, we'd be aiming for a perfect 7. Ah well, six is good. What do the Patsies have, 3? And how many without cheating? Oh, that's right, zero. They should be stripped of their Lombardis.

The two best things that happened in 2008: Obama was elected president, and the Giants beat the Patsies to deny them a perfect season; too, too sweet.

Please anybody but the Steelers, I couldn't take listening to their obnoxious fans how this team is the greatest ever for another year.

Yet, how is it that football fans never hated the Steelers, despite all their success; and yet almost everyone other than Patsies fans despise the Patsies? It's because the franchise in NE has no class, their owner has no class, and the team's fans have no class. Your quote is proof of that.

I give credit where it's due, and Tom Brady and Adam Vinitiari did a great job during the team's run, especially Vinitiari -- if it wasn't for him, the so-called dynasty would have never been, oh, and the flipping rule that allowed the Patsies new life vs. Oakland in the tuck rule game. But the coach couldn't coach his way out of a paper-bag; he proved that in Cleveland. Hell, give Marinelli Tom Brady and even he could win the Super Bowl (with a bit of cheating).

The Ravens are a very good football, lead by a class act head coach (what a refreshing change from Billick); the Eagles are a good football team with a class-act QB; the Cards are a good football team lead by a class-act head coach and QB; there is nothing classy about the NE Patsies.

Yeah, I guess Allentown is somewhere. :rolleyes:



Sure, whatever that means:confused:



You are a Steelers fan, but wearing a Panthers jersey? Don't hurt yourself falling off bandwagons.

Let's see, a tiny town in the middle of nowhere compared to a city of nearly 110,000 right in between NY and Philly.
Yup, that's the same.....not that I care.

Remind me of who your team is?

LOL! Just like I said about Steeler fans, never give an opponent any credit for their accomplishments. It's all about them and nothing else matters.

BTW: The Pats record the last two seasons since they havn't been able to cheat. 29-6, best in the NFL. Yeah it was all about the cheating that won them games before! :rolleyes:

Dude don't even bother. This is why I despise an all Pennsylvania Superbowl. Steeler fans hate the Pats because they whipped them 2x inAFC Championship games at Pittsburgh. Eagle fans are delusional because some ancient senator has them convinced they were robbed of a Superbowl by "spying". Something other coaches(Jimmy Johnson, ect.) have said they have done before. So it is what it is.

Next time Belichick celebrates with his player after a cheap shot, Like Tomlin does, than the Steeler fans can get on their white horses and whine.

If the Steelers or Ravens win back-to-back SBs, Patriots will have to share the honor of being the team of the '00s. :D

If the Steelers or Ravens win back-to-back SBs, Patriots will have to share the honor of being the team of the '00s. :D

LOL, the 00s; that suits them perfectly.

As for the previous guy's post about Tomlin celebrating a cheap shot, you don't know what you are talking about. Tomlin is one of the classiest guys in the NFL. Now, if you consider a hard hit a cheap shot, then you don't know good football; probably a Patsie fan.

Most teams feel wide receivers aren't supposed to block linebackers. Of course, it is because their linebackers don't handle blocking receivers like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_POGGZEspA

Eagle fans are delusional because some ancient senator has them convinced they were robbed of a Superbowl by "spying". .


Not quite....crazy how you are live pretty close, but yet you are so far off.

Philly chokes like every year.

Cardinals Vs Ravens.


Two things:
1. Five out of the last eight years the Eagles are in the NFC Champ.(the other three years DMac was hurt...otherwise it would have been 7 or 8 out of the last 8)
*2. Everybody told me and other Philly fans that the Phillies would choke, and they kept it up all the way until they won the World Championship! ;)

They finally appeased Billy Penn.

That is effing beautiful!

As for the Patsies, the Patriots during their so-called dynasty were a one man team; without Vinitiari (sp?), they wouldn't even have won one Superbowl: Tuck rule game, Vinitiari wins the game; SB vs. Rams -- Vinitiari. And I think even the SB vs. Panthers was won by a last second fg by Vinitiari. Maybe you can give them the SB vs. the Eagles, but would they have gotten there without cheating?

Oh, and I guess Brady is good too, but to say that the Patriots have been great since they stopped cheating is a farce. First of all, how do we know that they've stopped cheating; they cheated once, repeatedly, so we know they will try to cheat again. Any self-respecting team would have fired the arse-hole Belichek for cheating, but not the Patsies; what a joke of a team. I was so damned happy when they were knocked out of the playoffs.

Yes, the Steelers will beat the Ravens (we're in Flacco's head) and the Cards will upset the Eagles. Tomlin will beat Whisenhunt and the Steelers will be the first NFL team to win 6 Lombardi trophies. Had the jag-off O'Donnell not gifted the Cowboys with the game in 95, we'd be aiming for a perfect 7. Ah well, six is good. What do the Patsies have, 3? And how many without cheating? Oh, that's right, zero. They should be stripped of their Lombardis.

The two best things that happened in 2008: Obama was elected president, and the Giants beat the Patsies to deny them a perfect season; too, too sweet.

LOL! I rest my case. You have proven my point . Thanks!

They finally appeased Billy Penn.

I swear, you live in Charlotte and know more than my man in Shillington. :)

Here's something:
Phillies had last won in 80
Phillies won again in 08
Eagles last won in 60
Eagles win again in 09???

I swear, you live in Charlotte and know more than my man in Shillington. :)


Went to Temple and stayed in Philly for about 10 years before moving down here in '94.

Here's something:
Phillies had last won in 80
Phillies won again in 08
Eagles last won in 60
Eagles win again in 09???

If that were an SAT analogy question, the correct answer would be that the Eagles win the SB 3006. ;)

Hey, let us have this. :)

Yet, how is it that football fans never hated the Steelers, despite all their success; and yet almost everyone other than Patsies fans despise the Patsies? It's because the franchise in NE has no class, their owner has no class, and the team's fans have no class. Your quote is proof of that.
+1.

I respect the Steelers. They as an organization have a lot of class, great history, and an incredible fan base. When they beat the Colts in the 2005 playoffs (on their way to the Super Bowl), I was upset but I cheered for them in the Super Bowl. That's in contrast to the Patriots and the Chargers, who have beat us in the playoffs in 4 other years of this decade (other than our Super Bowl win), and I don't respect either of those teams. Their fans are classless. But its all ok, because the Colts will carry on, and will work just as hard again next year, like they have for this entire decade.

That's a holdover from before their first game - sometime after deciding to move to Charlotte when I put my name on the PSL waiting list. I was promoting their new franchise - just like you are promoting The International Guild of Handhooking Rugmakers, but I'm sure you have some machine made floor coverings in your home.
It's ironic that I held the rights to tighr.net for two years before letting it expire (in favor of using my last name instead), and that this group I've never heard of apparantly now uses tighr.net as their homepage...

My pick is an all Penn. state SB as some of the above posts. I don't think NBS is pulling for the Cardinals to get into the SB from the ratings standpoint. The Cards are this years Cinderella team but Eagles should win as long as Westbrook is healthy..anyway great thread..

NBC I meant..

It's ironic that I held the rights to tighr.net for two years before letting it expire (in favor of using my last name instead), and that this group I've never heard of apparantly now uses tighr.net as their homepage...

Figured that was just too good to be true. You never sounded like a rug enthusiast. :D

NBC is rooting hard for a PA SB. Baltimore/Arizona was likely their worst case scenario among all 12 playoff teams - possibly Baltimore/Carolina. San Diego is a smaller market, but they have a decent fan base.

+1.

I respect the Steelers. They as an organization have a lot of class, great history, and an incredible fan base. When they beat the Colts in the 2005 playoffs (on their way to the Super Bowl), I was upset but I cheered for them in the Super Bowl. That's in contrast to the Patriots and the Chargers, who have beat us in the playoffs in 4 other years of this decade (other than our Super Bowl win), and I don't respect either of those teams. Their fans are classless. But its all ok, because the Colts will carry on, and will work just as hard again next year, like they have for this entire decade.

Well, right back atcha! The Colts have become a classy organization. I was worried after they left Baltimore; the early signs were not good. But with Manning and Dungy, the team became a top notch group. I am sad to see Dungy go, but his replacement looks like he's cut from the same mold. If the Colts could convince Manning that a run based offense could actually help him, he might go for it; it could be like the Broncos when they finally won the SB, and then back to back wins: with a great running game, Elway was even better. But with Bob Sanders, a beefed up defensive front, and a hulking running back, the Colts will return to the SB before Manning is done. Bank on it!

LOL! Just like I said about Steeler fans, never give an opponent any credit for their accomplishments. It's all about them and nothing else matters.

BTW: The Pats record the last two seasons since they havn't been able to cheat. 29-6, best in the NFL. Yeah it was all about the cheating that won them games before! :rolleyes:

I will give Ray Lewis all of the credit for killing a guy and getting off "Scott Free".

Steelers 27 - 13

I will give Ray Lewis all of the credit for killing a guy and getting off "Scott Free".

Steelers 27 - 13

Lol, that's a bit harsh. I do give Ray Lewis all the credit in the world; he is one of the best defensive players to ever play the game, and I love to hate him. Won't he ever retire?!

As for the final score, do you really think the Ravens will score 13 points? Not a chance. Steelers 20, Ravens 9.

I'm sure the refs will work things out for the Steelers just like the last Super Bowl they won with Big Ben being bailed out by the refs among other calls. Then there was the whole Cowher contrived celebration thing. Not worried about the Eagles, since they are certified world class chokers (especially at QB). Sorry, I have some personal issues with PA NFL teams. :-)

If there is any justice in the world it will be Ravens/Cards.

yep....the cards clinched the division & couldnt get a bye anyway so why kill themselves for nothing.

thats why they should change the seeding rule....qualify the 6 teams as they do now but seed by record....so chargers win the division at 8-8 & still would get a playoff spot....but they should be the 6th seed & play at the 3rd seed....wasnt fair they were home against a 12-4 colts team.

winning your division should clinch u a playoff spot....not necessarily a home game though.

also then teams like the cards might try & win more games even after clinching to improve seeding.

System's good the way it is - the focus is on your own division. You can't compare records from different divisions because opponents are different.

but they already do compare records from different divisions....if the jets win the div at 12-4 & the chargers win the div at 11-5 the jets are the higher seed.

they just talked about this on espnews and 2 of the 3 liked reseeding after playoff field is set....this should come up again at the competition meetings in the spring.

If the Steelers or Ravens win back-to-back SBs, Patriots will have to share the honor of being the team of the '00s. :D

And they will have done it without cheating. :p

but they already do compare records from different divisions....if the jets win the div at 12-4 & the chargers win the div at 11-5 the jets are the higher seed.
Which is correct, but the wild card teams that have better records than other division champs will be 5th and 6th seed no matter what. Its almost punishment for playing in a tough division with great teams. The AFC South had 3 teams in it last year, and the NFC South was 1 win away from having 3 this year as well (Buccaneers). If those teams finish with better records than another division winner, they should be seeded higher.

The prize for winning your division should be a guaranteed spot in the playoffs, not a guaranteed home field advantage.

Right now, you could theoretically have two teams in the same division each go 15-1 (each winning the home and away against each other), and one would be the #1 seed with first round bye and home field, and the other would be the #5 who plays a wild card game and doesn't get to go home unless the #'s 1-4 seeds all lost, and that would be against whatever lucky team got 6th seed.

Everyone has a shot to win their division against 3 other teams with comparable opponents. If you come in 2nd, you didn't earn your right to a home game. Leaving it open for a wild card to bump a division winner means that a division's brutal schedule, or being in a brutal division, goes completely unrewarded.

Given a choice between erring on the side of the winner of a division, or erring on the side of a team that finished 2nd among the 4 in their division - it's a no-brainer to err on the side of the Division winner.

Lol, that's a bit harsh. I do give Ray Lewis all the credit in the world; he is one of the best defensive players to ever play the game, and I love to hate him. Won't he ever retire?!

As for the final score, do you really think the Ravens will score 13 points? Not a chance. Steelers 20, Ravens 9.
ravens17
steelers14

I agree with rviele

And they will have done it without cheating. :p

Get over it:mad:

I will give Ray Lewis all of the credit for killing a guy and getting off "Scott Free".

Steelers 27 - 13

No kidding him and OJ should be showering together

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And if the Cardinals win, what will the aftermath picture look like? :D:D:D

And if the Cardinals win, what will the aftermath picture look like? :D:D:D

Same slogan, Cardinal facing right, Eagle carrying luggage. :D

I have to ask....are any of the people who seem to be Cardinals fans all of sudden cheering for them last year or the year before or before that?
Or is this a recent thing? :)

I have to ask....are any of the people who seem to be Cardinals fans all of sudden cheering for them last year or the year before or before that?
Or is this a recent thing? :)

I haven't seen any. Plenty rooting against the Eagles, but haven't heard from any actual Cardinal fans.

I have to ask....are any of the people who seem to be Cardinals fans all of sudden cheering for them last year or the year before or before that?
Or is this a recent thing? :)

I think most of it is because you have a team in the Cardinals that has never been to the Super Bowl before; hell, I think this is their first championship game! So, if anything, it's just an appreciation for one of the league's worst franchises finally having some success. I don't think anyone begrudges the Eagles for being there, or that anyone will be upset if the Eagles win, it's just nice for the Cards to finally have a chance. As an aside, given that the head coach is the Steeler's former offensive coordinator, I like the idea of him getting to his first SB, and what better team to face and lose to than his old team, the Steelers!

I see it another way....why be happy for a franchise that has run itself so poorly for so long.
I don't think they deserve anything.
I was rooting against them when they played the Panthers even though the Panthers I thought would have been a tougher match-up.

I do see your point though and you are probably right.

Well, most horrible teams that become good have a turning point. For the Steelers it was the hiring of Chuck Knoll; for the 49rs, it was Walsh; for the Patriots it was the tuck rule. Perhaps for the Cards, they finally got it right by hiring Whisenhunt. Thankfully, a really sucky team like the Browns will never get it right; thankfully they will always suck; heck of a job Brownies.

Well, most horrible teams that become good have a turning point. For the Steelers it was the hiring of Chuck Knoll; for the 49rs, it was Walsh; for the Patriots it was the tuck rule. Perhaps for the Cards, they finally got it right by hiring Whisenhunt.

And for the Lions, it will have to be the second coming....

And for the Lions, it will have to be the second coming....

Or all other 31 teams being involved in simultaneous plane crashes.

or they institute a handicap.

I think most of it is because you have a team in the Cardinals that has never been to the Super Bowl before; hell, I think this is their first championship game! So, if anything, it's just an appreciation for one of the league's worst franchises finally having some success. I don't think anyone begrudges the Eagles for being there, or that anyone will be upset if the Eagles win, it's just nice for the Cards to finally have a chance. As an aside, given that the head coach is the Steeler's former offensive coordinator, I like the idea of him getting to his first SB, and what better team to face and lose to than his old team, the Steelers!

It's their first championship game since 1947 - when they were the Chicago Cardinals. There was no playoff, just the two teams that won their division.

I haven't seen any. Plenty rooting against the Eagles, but haven't heard from any actual Cardinal fans.
We're around, it's just that the Cards aren't like the Steelers, Pats, Cowboys, etc. where the fanbase is all over. The Cards fanbase is composed almost entirely of people in AZ or from AZ, those of us who have suffered for as long as we can remember with lousy ownership, coaches, and offensive lines. The last (only) season the Cards have had that wasn't a total loss was 10 years ago, so forgive us when we need some time to adjust to still having a team playing football in January :).

Real Cardinals fans that have been fans for life deserve a BIG hand, as they have suffered.

I have to ask....are any of the people who seem to be Cardinals fans all of sudden cheering for them last year or the year before or before that?
Or is this a recent thing? :)
I've got a coworker who used to live in Phoenix, and he's a huge Cards fan. Even flew to Phoenix for the wild card game (same weekend I went to the Colts game in SD... :( ) and he's still cheering. Definitely not a fairweather fan, he's got the jerseys and ticket stubs to prove it. Really sucks when us fans can't live near our home cities.

Real Cardinals fans that have been fans for life deserve a BIG hand, as they have suffered.This is why I can't handle it if the Eagles were to win it all. You Eagles fans talk JUST like Cowboys fans, minus the Super Bowl Trophies to back it up.

The Eagles aren't allowed to have a Super Bowl. The quicker you Eagles fans realize this the sooner you'll stop torturing yourselves with all these fantasies of Donovan McNabb heaving a trophy over his head. The only thing McNabb is going to heave is whatever he ate before the game.

This is why I can't handle it if the Eagles were to win it all. You Eagles fans talk JUST like Cowboys fans, minus the Super Bowl Trophies to back it up.

The Eagles aren't allowed to have a Super Bowl. The quicker you Eagles fans realize this the sooner you'll stop torturing yourselves with all these fantasies of Donovan McNabb heaving a trophy over his head. The only thing McNabb is going to heave is whatever he ate before the game.

What?!?
How is what you quoted by me in anyway not a compliment to the true fanhood?
I was clearly expressing praise of being true fan through thick and thin.
I was giving praise and you get your hindtail in a knot over nothing and then berate me and my fellow bird lovers? :)

Really sucks when us fans can't live near our home cities.

I imagine it does, at least durign the season.

and then berate me and my fellow bird lovers? :)I just had the sudden urge.:D

In case you guys actually win it all, I'm talking all the smack I can before it happens. I'm not kidding either. We'll never hear the end of it if the eagles manage to pull it off. Eagles fans talk without a SB, I can only imagine what it will be like if they actually get one.:eek:

This is all in fun, but I do hate the Eagles and their fans. :) And I truly believe, that whatever strange and wondrous forces control the universe, they would be totally against a SB in Philly.

Remember, it's death, taxes and NO SB in Philly!

80 -- 08
60 -- 09

It's destiny!

But we do think we are in an elite club of teams with huge fans bases that are decades loyal and passionate(without just cause/results in our case) and all from the surrounding area....not people from all walks of life that don't really care about football and attatch to a name team)


Hmmm....that be a good list to make....

But we do think we are in an elite club of teams with huge fans bases that are decades loyal and passionate(without just cause/results in our case) Oh getting a little gracious before the big game? Butterflies must be flapping away by now! It won't do any good. Help all the old ladies across the street that you want. Life is life and there can't be a SB trophy in Philly. It would tear the fabric of space-time and suck us all into ...god knows what.

If Einstein were still alive, he'd have a mathematical formula, no ...a law of physics, for why the Eagles cannot win a Super Bowl.

Same was said all the way up to the restart of game five in the World Series before my Phils became World Champs! :)

At least the Eagles don't have the highest payroll, and a $1 Billion stadium that is destined to be called "God's Urinal" - with nothing to show for it, and very little prospects for the future.

At least the Eagles don't have the highest payroll, and a $1 Billion stadium that is destined to be called "God's Urinal" - with nothing to show for it, and very little prospects for the future.Whatever man! :D I'm not going to drag this thread down with Cowboys talk. The focus should stay on the teams that are still in it. ;)

I will say this though. If Dallas fires numbnut and hires Shanahan, or maybe Gruden, the league better watch out. There's a lot of talent on that team and if it can get pulled together to play as a team, well you know what I think.

Back on topic: I don't think the Steelers are going to beat the Ravens, btw. I don't see the Steelers offense being able to score enough points. And I know you have dreams of more SB trophies than anyone else floating thru your head, but it ain't happening, so I'd wake up and smell reality if i were you.

Yep - that's exactly what the Cowboys need. One of two coaches who got fired for December meltdowns. :D

Whatever man! :D I'm not going to drag this thread down with Cowboys talk. The focus should stay on the teams that are still in it. ;)

I will say this though. If Dallas fires numbnut and hires Shanahan, or maybe Gruden, the league better watch out. There's a lot of talent on that team and if it can get pulled together to play as a team, well you know what I think.

Yup, I said early in the season when everyone was on the Cowboy's bandwagon that as long as Wade (Deer in the Headlights) Philips was still coach, they would never win anything. It amazes me that he is still there!

And speaking of coaches how long do you think Herm Edwards will last in KC with Scott Paoli taking over, my guess not very long cause SP is a winner and that is what he wants to do. So add him to the list of unemployed coaches soon!

I will say this though. If Dallas fires numbnut and hires Shanahan, or maybe Gruden, the league better watch out. There's a lot of talent on that team and if it can get pulled together to play as a team, well you know what I think.
Dallas can have Gruden. There's a reason Tampa got rid of him, and I bet other team owners are fully aware of what that reason is.

For whatever reason, all the ESPN coverage I've seen so far about Gruden's firing has been of the "WTF?" variety. They think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Its as if they didn't realize he did NOTHING during his seven years except yell at the players enough to take an already good team to the Super Bowl and win it, and follow that up with a piece by piece dismantling of said Super Bowl team. 3 losing seasons, 2 playoff appearances (both losses), and a complete shutdown in December of this year was the icing on the cake.

Bring back Dungy as GM!

Bring back Dungy as GM!

1. bucs already hired a gm....he was their pro personnel director mark dominik.

2. afc champ game ref = bill carrollo.

3. nfc champ game ref = walt anderson.

4. Super Bowl XLIII - referee Terry McAulay,
umpire Roy Ellison, head linesman Derick Bowers, line judge Mark Perlman, back judge Keith Ferguson, side judge Michael Banks, and field judge Greg Gautreaux .

5. the panthers divisional playoff game where they got their doors blown off got a 13.8 rating....that was the lowest div game rating since 2000....evidently the panthers ratings suck even more than they do.

both fox & cbs will both be in the studio & not at the stadiums for the pregames shows.

Yep - that's exactly what the Cowboys need. One of two coaches who got fired for December meltdowns. :DI'd love for you to point me to the season where the Panthers didn't meltdown at the end. Because, you know, unless you're the last team standing, you melted down. And I didn't think it was possible, but Jack Delhomme managed to make me thankful for Tony Romo. Romo throws some int's, but he doesn't throw it to the DB's as if they're the receivers. :D I'm only half kidding here. I was really down on Romo until I saw Jake's performance against the Cardinals. Then I figured, hell, it could be worse I guess.:D

Yup, I said early in the season when everyone was on the Cowboy's bandwagon that as long as Wade (Deer in the Headlights) Philips was still coach, they would never win anything. It amazes me that he is still there!Went to bed last night with rumors of Garrett leaving for the Rams and now it looks like it's not happening. If Garrett leaves we go get Shanahan, imo. So I'm pretty bummed that Garrett hasn't been hired. I've wanted wade gone since the moment he was announced as head coach. It sucks, and until we get a real coach we're in trouble.

tighr: you have to understand though, compared to Wade Philips, Gruden is like Vince Lombardi. He may have his issues, but he's an upgrade over Wade "Cupcake" Philips.

I'd love for you to point me to the season where the Panthers didn't meltdown at the end. Because, you know, unless you're the last team standing, you melted down. And I didn't think it was possible, but Jack Delhomme managed to make me thankful for Tony Romo. Romo throws some int's, but he doesn't throw it to the DB's as if they're the receivers. :D

If you've followed the Cowboys, you'd know that they suck - consistently - from December on. They were 1-3 this year. Denver and the Bucs were 0-4.

Losing the last game you play (hopefully in the playoffs) is a heck of a lot different than going cold for the last part of the year, every year.

Losing the last game you play (hopefully in the playoffs) is a heck of a lot different than going cold for the last part of the year, every year.A heck of a lot different? No, it's not. That's a losing mentality. I don't want to hear about all of Carolina's fabulous playoff appearances that led to NOTHING.

I don't care how you frame it, or spin it, or whatever warped way you rationalize Carolina not winning it all. In the end, EVERY year they walk off the field as losers. Call it a meltdown, call it choking, call it Karma or call it a really solid season you are proud of.:D Call it whatever you like, but it's still losing.

u either:
a) win the super bowl = great season.
b) dont win the super bowl = bad season.

Excuse the seeming harshness but that is an ignorant statement.
Ask any player worth a lick that is on one of the other 28 teams if they'd like to be playing right now.
While the ultimate goal is a SB look at the Bills run...that was impressive any way you slice it.(0-4 in SB)

It's their first championship game since 1947 - when they were the Chicago Cardinals. There was no playoff, just the two teams that won their division.

Yeah, they said last week that the Cardinals were the only NFC team not to have been in the NFC Championship game since the merger in 1970.

As a Redskins fan, I'll be rooting for the Cards and against the Eagles. But I also really dislike the Ravens (because they screw me out of enjoyable AFC match ups nearly every week) and the Steelers (because they have the worst fans in the NFL), so unless the Cardinals pull off the biggest miracle in NFL history I'm probably not going to be a happy camper come February 1.

Excuse the seeming harshness but that is an ignorant statement.
Ask any player worth a lick that is on one of the other 28 teams if they'd like to be playing right now.
While the ultimate goal is a SB look at the Bills run...that was impressive any way you slice it.(0-4 in SB)Just like an Eagles fan to have their expectations set for low. I don't blame you though. You don't know any better.:D

Love the Cowboys fans' rationalization. By their logic they can still claim to be the second best team in the league - along with every other team in the league that didn't win the Super Bowl. But please don't change a thing - the denial pervasive throughout Cowboy Kingdom from top to bottom is precisely why they have no success come crunch time.

Remember: Half the teams in the NFL have gone to at least one Super Bowl since the Cowboys won their last playoff game (just a single playoff win, not a SB). 17th would be Arizona if they make it this year. How many years or decades will have to go by before Cowboys fans become realistic about their mediocre franchise? :D

Keep in mind, you don't have to just secretly envy the Steelers - you're free to join Steeler Nation. You get to root for a team that is competitive every year, and more importantly, they have an owner that isn't a complete moron and players that don't just give up.

The Cowboys, please. There's nothing to talk about except their character issues.
And the Beagles, forget the Beagles. Their fans will be chewing on them all winter soon enough. Those folks aren't happy unless they have someone to bitch at.

Had a premonition not long ago that the Steelers take it all. And yes, the 78 team was the bomb.

As a Jet fan, I can say that the Steelers then were incredible.

Remember: Half the teams in the NFL have gone to at least one Super Bowl since the Cowboys won their last playoff game Yeah and half of those didn't win jack. People never even remember who went to the SB and lost, unless like roman says it's the eagles because they never stop bitching about it.:D

I can't argue with some of what you say regarding players giving up, etc. They did.

We need to stay focused here: this is the Steelers' and Eagles' time to shine. I'm hoping for a fun day tomorrow.;)

And FWIW, I don't consider the Cowboys to be second best to any franchise. We're tied with the Steelers and Niners in Super Bowl wins but we win the tie-breaker which is alphabetical order:

1. Dallas
2. Pittsburgh
3. San Francisco

I got a 1 in 4 chance of winning the SB. That means I got a 3 in 4 chance to not win it.

I'm just warming up my off-season arguments, just in case. :)

Yeah and half of those didn't win jack.

Nope - less than half.

9 of the 16 teams won at least one SB. (NE-3, DEN-2). So I guess you could say that almost 30% of the teams in the NFL have won at least one Super Bowl since the Cowboys last won a playoff game. :D

I got a 1 in 4 chance of winning the SB. That means I got a 3 in 4 chance to not win it.

I'm just warming up my off-season arguments, just in case. :)I hear you man!

I'm totally warmed up and ready to go.:D

I still can't fathom the idea of Philly winning it. I cannot imagine not being able to listen to a Philly fan run their mouth, and not being able to ask one simple question when they're done: How many Super Bowls do the Eagles have?

One is all they'll ever need. They'd be happy to just run their mouths for eternity on the back of the one trophy. That is not acceptable.

These sick people would carry pictures of it in their wallets, printing up t-shirts and posters. The idea is just abhorrent and disgusting to me.

The Cowboys are just being nice to the other teams and letting them have a chance. They could win the SB every year if they wanted to, but that wouldn't be fair to all the other kids on the playground. :rolleyes::D:cool:

Whatever man! :D I'm not going to drag this thread down with Cowboys talk. The focus should stay on the teams that are still in it. ;)

I will say this though. If Dallas fires numbnut and hires Shanahan, or maybe Gruden, the league better watch out. There's a lot of talent on that team and if it can get pulled together to play as a team, well you know what I think.

Back on topic: I don't think the Steelers are going to beat the Ravens, btw. I don't see the Steelers offense being able to score enough points. And I know you have dreams of more SB trophies than anyone else floating thru your head, but it ain't happening, so I'd wake up and smell reality if i were you.


So you don't see how the Steelers' offense can score enough points to win? Try looking at the tapes of the last two games -- the Steelers scored enough points to win. Don't worry, though, the Cowboys will have a chance to tie us with another SB win, should they be able to put all the pieces together. I actually like the Cowboys now; I like Romo, and even TO is more likeable somehow. At the beginning of the year I actually predicted this years' SB to be the Steelers and Cowboys; well, I was half right. Cards beat the Eagles in an upset; Steelers beat-down the Ravens, and the Steelers humble the Cards in the SB. 6, count em 6 Lombardi trophies (and if it hadn't been for the moron Neil O'Donnell, we'd be a perfect 7).

The Cowboys are just being nice to the other teams and letting them have a chance. They could win the SB every year if they wanted to, but that wouldn't be fair to all the other kids on the playground. :rolleyes::D:cool:Rant on/

These cowboys are the biggest bunch of losing, underachieving most over-paid bunch that I can honestly recollect. It's actually a cliche' to say that, but it's 100 percent the truth with these guys.

What they did to Texas Stadium I'll never forget. I might forgive them if they ever achieve anything but I'll never forget. When I see the look on Randy whites' and Ed Jones' face in classic clips of them losing, it really ticks me off comparing them to this group of nothings.

It's just me, me, me. Even Roy Williams, here a lousy month, was already choosing sides in the locker room instead of worrying about his play on the field.

Say what you want about Jerry, I might even agree with some of it, but those bags of dirt for players owed him, and us, a hell of a lot more than they EVER gave on the field this year.

There should be a rule about having to give your paycheck back when you lose with such malice as this bunch did.

They could NOT CARE LESS about the Dallas Cowboys Franchise, the city, the fans, the history or the tradition. With the exception of a very few, they could not care any less if they win or lose as long as they get paid ...and maybe get to take it easy in practice too.

I know you were just kidding but it got me burning. This group could not give anything away to anyone because to do that you have to take it first, and these bums won't take anything that isn't GIVEN to them. And unless the NFL gives away Super Bowls, these walking bags of pond-scum will never get one.

We'll have to wait and draft/acquire some real men who actually want to win for the sake of glory, and who find being cannon fodder for the rest of the league unacceptable. Actually to be cannon fodder you actually have to fight and these bozos won't even do that. They're more like clay pigeons.

So you don't see how the Steelers' offense can score enough points to win? Try looking at the tapes of the last two games -- the Steelers scored enough points to win. Don't worry, though, the Cowboys will have a chance to tie us with another SB win, should they be able to put all the pieces together. I actually like the Cowboys now; I like Romo, and even TO is more likeable somehow. At the beginning of the year I actually predicted this years' SB to be the Steelers and Cowboys; well, I was half right. Cards beat the Eagles in an upset; Steelers beat-down the Ravens, and the Steelers humble the Cards in the SB. 6, count em 6 Lombardi trophies (and if it hadn't been for the moron Neil O'Donnell, we'd be a perfect 7).I just think the Raven defense is clicking at the right time. I'll admit I'm doing a lot of hoping but I don't feel too bad about the Ravens chances.

Neil O'Donnell: god bless him.:D

Here are my picks:

Ravens: 19

Steelers:13

Cardinals: 24

Eagles: 17

The Nardinals have got to be one of thee luckier teams in NFL history aside from the 2005 Sqeelers.
1. Shittiest division in the league.
2. Draw the hapless Falcons in the first round and eke out a win.
3. Play Carolina in which Delhomme and the offensive line experience a
collective lobotomy.
4. Make it to the Conference Playoff with a pathetic 427 points for and 426
points against.

The Cardinals are long overdue for their comeuppance but the time is nigh.
Barring divine intervention or the same officiating team as the 06 Superbowl, the Eagles are going to obliterate these losers.

I hear you man!

I'm totally warmed up and ready to go.:D

I still can't fathom the idea of Philly winning it. I cannot imagine not being able to listen to a Philly fan run their mouth, and not being able to ask one simple question when they're done: How many Super Bowls do the Eagles have?

One is all they'll ever need. They'd be happy to just run their mouths for eternity on the back of the one trophy. That is not acceptable.

These sick people would carry pictures of it in their wallets, printing up t-shirts and posters. The idea is just abhorrent and disgusting to me.

Don't forget the exponential effect of being the "City of Champions". :eek:

The Nardinals have got to be one of thee luckier teams in NFL history aside from the 2005 Sqeelers.
1. Shittiest division in the league.
2. Draw the hapless Falcons in the first round and eke out a win.
3. Play Carolina in which Delhomme and the offensive line experience a
collective lobotomy.
4. Make it to the Conference Playoff with a pathetic 427 points for and 426
points against.

And what happens when they beat the Eagles? Do they suddenly gain legitimacy, or do they continue to be lucky? What if they win it all by beating Pittsburgh or Baltimore? The got lucky because the game was in Tampa instead of Heinz field? Excuse excuses. You win them when you have to. 6-0 record in the regular season against the division, and 2-0 record against whatever the NFL has thrown at them in the playoffs. You win them when you have to.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2098/202/14/1134783815/n1134783815_261769_5498.jpg

Woopsie

Barring divine intervention or the same officiating team as the 06 Superbowl, the Eagles are going to obliterate these losers.
http://www.pythonline.com/files/pythonline/images/Holy_Grail_God_small_0.gif

With that kickoff that bounces out of bounds and the play is called dead, I wonder if the NFL is going to have to review the play blown dead rule in the off-season. It's not really a game changer, but its still a Hocuili-like call. After watching the replay, its clear the ball never bounced out of bounds, and if you look at the trajectory of the ball its clear that it never touched the player, either. It should have been a live ball recovery by the Cardinals. But, irreviewable because of the call on the field. Same thing that happened to the Chargers: a fumble blown dead.

Yes, the Steelers will beat the Ravens (we're in Flacco's head) and the Cards will upset the Eagles. Tomlin will beat Whisenhunt and the Steelers will be the first NFL team to win 6 Lombardi trophies. Had the jag-off O'Donnell not gifted the Cowboys with the game in 95, we'd be aiming for a perfect 7. Ah well, six is good. What do the Patsies have, 3? And how many without cheating? Oh, that's right, zero. They should be stripped of their Lombardis.

Pretty good so far, huh?

Woopsie

Here's what I said when asked what if the Cardinals win:
Same slogan, Cardinal facing right, Eagle carrying luggage. :D

I'm sure it won't be long until a Cards fan changes that around.

Actually, it will probably be a disgruntled Eagles fan that does it first. :D

3. Play Carolina in which Delhomme and the offensive line experience a
collective lobotomy.


Actually, as someone who was actually there, wet, cold, and thoroughly pissed, I can say with some authority that it was actually the defensive coordinator who had had a recent lobotomy (and lost his star def. end because of it). Jake, well, he was just being Jake. Just like you can't stop an infant from putting dang near anything into his mouth, you can't stop Jake from making bad decisions no matter how many times the Coach gives him a "vote of confidence". It's our annual cross to bear.

Here's what I said when asked what if the Cardinals win:


I'm sure it won't be long until a Cards fan changes that around.

Actually, it will probably be a disgruntled Eagles fan that does it first. :D

Well, I'm a Steelers Fan, but how does this look?

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/01/01cardswin.jpg

credit goes to deadspin.com

:D Not bad.

But I'd rather see what I suggested. Think it is probably more humiliating. :)

Rant on/

These cowboys are the biggest bunch of losing, underachieving most over-paid bunch that I can honestly recollect. It's actually a cliche' to say that, but it's 100 percent the truth with these guys.

What they did to Texas Stadium I'll never forget. I might forgive them if they ever achieve anything but I'll never forget. When I see the look on Randy whites' and Ed Jones' face in classic clips of them losing, it really ticks me off comparing them to this group of nothings.

It's just me, me, me. Even Roy Williams, here a lousy month, was already choosing sides in the locker room instead of worrying about his play on the field.

Say what you want about Jerry, I might even agree with some of it, but those bags of dirt for players owed him, and us, a hell of a lot more than they EVER gave on the field this year.

There should be a rule about having to give your paycheck back when you lose with such malice as this bunch did.

They could NOT CARE LESS about the Dallas Cowboys Franchise, the city, the fans, the history or the tradition. With the exception of a very few, they could not care any less if they win or lose as long as they get paid ...and maybe get to take it easy in practice too.

I know you were just kidding but it got me burning. This group could not give anything away to anyone because to do that you have to take it first, and these bums won't take anything that isn't GIVEN to them. And unless the NFL gives away Super Bowls, these walking bags of pond-scum will never get one.

We'll have to wait and draft/acquire some real men who actually want to win for the sake of glory, and who find being cannon fodder for the rest of the league unacceptable. Actually to be cannon fodder you actually have to fight and these bozos won't even do that. They're more like clay pigeons.

Be glad you don't live in Detroit, you'd have blown a gasket years ago!

I predict Dallas will get a Super Bowl in less than 3 years.

I predict Dallas will get a Super Bowl in less than 3 years.

Only if they get rid of TO; he's an incredible receiver, but like ocho-cinco, he's poison to whatever team he's on. Romo is good, but until he actually plays well in a big game, I'm not sure about their SB prospects. I like Wade Phillips, but I don't think he'll be around for long, and with a revolving door at head coach, I don't think there will be enough consistant leadership to lead them to the promised land. They were good enough last year to take it all, but for whatever reason, they fell short. Now it may be a long while before they make it back, being in one of the toughest divisions in football.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLV