I also actually loved that Steve Martin song, it was really good.The song itself was pleasant.

However I don't think the banjo playing we were hearing was coming from Steve Martin (although I know he is/was a very good musician, as he's been seen on SNL playing the banjo decades ago). It was either him pre-recorded, or it was a studio musician live. But it was not him if my eyes/ears are reporting information to my brain correctly.

I noticed immediately that the banjo sounds had nothing to do with his fingers. He actually looked like he'd just stepped out of the coffin. Sad, but true.

Someone earlier mentioned Jason Mraz, Kris and Jason Castro in the same sentence. Mraz's musical style fits Kris very well. Very marketable. I have to admit that the first time I heard "I'm Yours" I said to myself; "Did Jason Castro release a single?" Can't you just envision Castro sitting on the stairs, strumming the Uke while doing that song?

- I thought Rod Stewart was going to trip and fall down on that stage.

- Cindy Lauper was surprisingly good. It was nice to see her on 30 Rock as well.

- The bikini girl upstage was great. Boy was she in trouble when she started singing and realised herself that she couldn't hold the tune.

- I like Adam, but I am glad Kris won. Most of my "keeper" performances from the season on DVR are from Kris. He is a "real" musician (not unlike Jack Johnson for example) and I'll buy his CDs for sure.

The song itself was pleasant.

However I don't think the banjo playing we were hearing was coming from Steve Martin (although I know he is/was a very good musician, as he's been seen on SNL playing the banjo decades ago). It was either him pre-recorded, or it was a studio musician live. But it was not him if my eyes/ears are reporting information to my brain correctly.

I noticed immediately that the banjo sounds had nothing to do with his fingers. He actually looked like he'd just stepped out of the coffin. Sad, but true.


Not sure... when he did SNL earlier this year he also did a banjo song and it sounded a little more natural than this one.

Kris will go nowhere

Adam will be on Broadway


That's it...
Absolutely! There are some other clips of Adam playing Fieryo in, I think, the LA production of Wicked. He is excellent, wonderful vocally with tremendous control and a great partner in the duet with Elphaba. His acting chops apperar to be good. He'll do his obligatory slave term with 19 Entertainment and then you will see him on stage again but as more of a star.

Weakest Idol winners:
1)Hicks
2)Kris

the teenies got their boy!

NICE lineup of guests although Megan or whatever the ditsy tattoo girl's name is WAS HORRIBLE!! Off key..off time! She should've just stopped singing and walked off stage!

Course some would say she OUTSANG Michael even though she was off !HAHA!!!

Who would you rank as the weakest? I say Taylor Hicks

For me the weakest will always be Carrie Underwood. She does absolutely nothing for me. I disliked her on her season and since then she has done nothing to change my mind.

For me the weakest will always be Carrie Underwood. She does absolutely nothing for me. I disliked her on her season and since then she has done nothing to change my mind.
She has been more successful than any other contestant.

I found a still frame of Kara. She actually looks a little boney.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2009/05/21/idol-bikini__1242912297_3340.jpg

She might want to spend a little time in a tanning booth next time she shows off her body!

She has been more successful than any other contestant.

Her being successful has nothing to do with whether I like her or not. There are a lot of successful music stars that do nothing for me she is just one of them.

In my humble opinion,
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:dngSuk81pz-NyM:http://media.herald-dispatch.com/blog/idol/uploaded_images/Megan-Joy-Corkrey--Michael-Becker-719729.jpg
sings like...
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:nGmyqq4spzUm2M:http://www.musicweb-international.com/nostalgia/2002/Sept02/Kate_Smith.jpg
Megan's calling will be to sing "God Bless America" in various hockey arenas. :D

She might want to spend a little time in a tanning booth next time she shows off her body!

Yeah, cuz women without tans are ugly! :rolleyes:

I think Kris is the weakest Idol winner yet. At least Taylor Hicks knew how to work a stage. My prediction is that Kris will be dumped by the record label after the one mandatory album.

This is actually a replay of the Studdard vs. Aiken year. Studdard won and then faded into obscurity, Aiken sold way more records and ended up on Broadway. Just substitute the names and the results will be the same.


Kris will go nowhere

Adam will be on Broadway


That's it...

absolutely correct.

It's sad to see so many people on an Audio forum dismiss a great talent like this. I've met Idol contestants that were having great personal success. Where they blockbuster hits like Daughtry? No, but they are still great talents whose music inspires people. If your music inspires even one person to live a better life I would define your career as a success. That's the point of music IMO.

Since you guys are so successful maybe you could help Kris.:rolleyes:

Excuse me but Chris Daughtry sold 6 million copies if his debut hard rock album. It was bought by die hard rock fans.

I agree that Adam is destined to front for Queen. He wont be tied to the Idol brand which will benefit him. I can see Brian May adding him to the line up, cutting a record with him and going on a world wide tour.


I also think he would be a great new front man for queen.

I'm a big fan of Paul Rodgers saw him a couple of times with Bad Company and once with The Firm ((with Jimmy Paige, Tony Franklin (awesome fretless bass player) and Chris Slade on the drums)). One of the best live shows I've seen (and I've been to a bunch).

IMO He's just not a good fit with Queen.

It's sad to see so many people on an Audio forum dismiss a great talent like this. I've met Idol contestants that were having great personal success. Where they blockbuster hits like Daughtry? No, but they are still great talents whose music inspires people. If your music inspires even one person to live a better life I would define your career as a success. That's the point of music IMO.

Since you guys are so successful maybe you could help Kris.:rolleyes:

Clearly your definition of 'success' is much different than most! Also, your definition of 'great talent' is different than most! Pleasant voice yes. Great talent no. :p

It's sad to see so many people on an Audio forum dismiss a great talent like this.

I do think Adam is more talented/creative, but I also think people are underestimating Kris. IMO, he is the most improved over the season. He really seemed to learn and grow as the season progressed. That, combined with his age and lack of experience suggests that he may have more potential. I wouldn't dismiss him so quickly.

I would say the opposite of Gokey. He seemed to have more experience and a stronger voice going in, but week after week it all seemed the same. I got bored with him, and don't think he has as much growth potential. I also think Allison has a LOT of potential. Matt... hard to say. He was too inconsistent to peg. The rest of them.... eh.

Megan or whatever the ditsy tattoo girl's name is WAS HORRIBLE!! Off key..off time! She should've just stopped singing and walked off stageAlexis Grace gave her a run for the money, for worst stage performance.

I really had high hopes for Alexis at the start of the season. I liked her "Dolly Parton mini-me" persona. But it turns out she really couldn't sing, and was apparently terrified to be on stage because her performances were so shaky.

The finale show group numbers (aka pimping for the summer tour) were scary bad... with continuation of same mugging for the flying camera and incessant smiling which turned me off so much during this season.

The finale just reinforced my impression that these kids have no real star quality when it comes to performing on stage. They clomp around, nobody has any real dancing skills or natural rhythm or magic personality, nobody is gorgeous, and IMHO nobody has a "voice" that really stands out to make them the clear target for your ears.

Didn't take long for me to go through the 2-hours with FF on the DVR, to get to the results. I didn't enjoy not one celebrity performance or duet/sing-along.

Also, I thought the singer's hand-held microphone levels were awful. Much too low. On the opening introduction with Ryan, both Kris and Adam could barely be heard (they may actually have been off). I guess whatever was audible must have been coming through Ryan's mike or lapel mike. And then on all songs the music level was much louder than the singers.

WHEW!!! IT'S FINALLY OVER!!!

(8PM tonight, the real enjoyment starts again)

It's sad to see so many people on an Audio forum dismiss a great talent like this. I've met Idol contestants that were having great personal success. Where they blockbuster hits like Daughtry? No, but they are still great talents whose music inspires people. If your music inspires even one person to live a better life I would define your career as a success. That's the point of music IMO.


Nicely put. Everyone gets so hung up on whether an Idol winner (or loser) will have a hugely successful career or not. So what? The vast majority of singers/bands never make it, whether or not they have a publicity engine behind them. This is a huge break for anyone who's on the show; where they go next depends on a lot of factors, natural talent being only one of them. I'd say that already Chris and Adam have better voices than half the singers we hear on the radio everyday.

Fantasia by a landslide.
ditto

Where they blockbuster hits like Daughtry?
He's not even on the same planet as Underwood or Clarkson

Weakest Idol winners:
1)Hicks
2)Kris

the teenies got their boy!

NICE lineup of guests although Megan or whatever the ditsy tattoo girl's name is WAS HORRIBLE!! Off key..off time! She should've just stopped singing and walked off stage

Course some would say she OUTSANG Michael even though she was off !HAHA!!!

1) Fantasia
2)Studdard
3) Hicks
4) Kris

as far as tatoo girl goes, whenever she sings I have this urge to get her an oxygen mask. If she had some wind she just might sound interesting.

Fantasia by a landslide.

Fantasia was not that great, but Taylor Hicks and Ruben Studdard are/were god-awful.

Let's be fair to Fantasia... she was better than her 2 competitors in the Top 3! Jasmine Trias and Dianna DiGarmo. *shudder*

Megan Joy is just about as beautiful a girl as I've ever seen. Even that huge tattoo works. Unfortunately, she sounds pretty bad most of the time. However - there's a unique quality to her voice that makes her interesting, and if it could be tamed - either through training or recording studio manipulation - she could have a career. She sounded wonderful on that Corinne Bailey Rae song early in the competition. If that doesn't work out, she could at least have a modeling career. What an amazing beauty!

Let's be fair to Fantasia... she was better than her 2 competitors in the Top 3! Jasmine Trias and Dianna DiGarmo. *shudder*

Is that your final answer? http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/fantasia-freaks-out-simon-cowell-on-american-idol/

:eek::eek:

1) Fantasia
2)Studdard
3) Hicks
4) Kris

as far as tatoo girl goes, whenever she sings I have this urge to get her an oxygen mask. If she had some wind she just might sound interesting.

Kris is at least in the top half for me.

1)Fantasia
2)Studdard
3) Hicks
4)Jordan Sparks
5) Kris Allen
6) David Cook
7) Kelly Clarkson
8) Carri Underwood

I only hate AI for one reason and one reason only...the show introduced us to Clay Aiken.

Kris is at least in the top half for me.

1)Fantasia
2)Studdard
3) Hicks
4)Jordan Sparks
5) Kris Allen
6) David Cook
7) Kelly Clarkson
8) Carri Underwood
Wait...is that your top eight or your bottom eight?

Fantasia was not that great, but Taylor Hicks and Ruben Studdard are/were god-awful.

IMO Ruben was/is a very good singer. He just didn't seem to click for some reason. Taylor was OK. Just not very good either. To me, Fantasia was torcher to listen to. I'd rather stick hot needles in my eyes (and ears).

Megan Joy is just about as beautiful a girl as I've ever seen. ! 2 each their own..:rolleyes: too bad she's not very bright...

all kidding aside...I still remember KRIS waiting on us @ Colton's Steakhouse 6 yrs ago in Conway so I can say I met an AI winner! I still am not a big fan of his (my girls love him BTW!!)

Megan seems very sweet. Maybe not smart, who knows? Probably not the classiest. All I know is that she has that classically beautiful face and a gorgeous body. Fun to look at. Interesting that I haven't seen many comments here about how attractive she is, but plenty of discussion as to how hot bikini girl is, and even Kara. Am I alone in this? Do I need new contact lenses? Is most of the forum gay? What's the story?

Megan seems very sweet. Maybe not smart, who knows? Probably not the classiest. All I know is that she has that classically beautiful face and a gorgeous body. Fun to look at. Interesting that I haven't seen many comments here about how attractive she is, but plenty of discussion as to how hot bikini girl is, and even Kara. Am I alone in this? Do I need new contact lenses? Are most of the forum guys gay? What's the story?

You are not alone. I think she's beautiful also. And I don't think that bikini girl is beautiful at all. Kinda plain looking.

Originally Posted by lsiberian
Where they blockbuster hits like Daughtry?


He's not even on the same planet as Underwood or Clarkson

Musically, I prefer his planet.

Otherwise, I'd prefer to be on Underwood's planet. Clarkson can make the donuts.

IMO Ruben was/is a very good singer. He just didn't seem to click for some reason. Taylor was OK. Just not very good either. To me, Fantasia was torcher to listen to. I'd rather stick hot needles in my eyes (and ears).

I agree. I think Ruben had one of the best voices ever on AI, though obviously one must like his style of '70s R&B to appreciate it. That he was never a commercial success has nothing to do with his skills.

...I still remember KRIS waiting on us @ Colton's Steakhouse 6 yrs ago in Conway

Wow, I can't remember who waited on me last week, much less 6 years ago. Apparently his charms aren't restricted to teenage girls. ;) No wonder he won! :D

Megan seems very sweet. Maybe not smart, who knows? Probably not the classiest. All I know is that she has that classically beautiful face and a gorgeous body. Fun to look at. Interesting that I haven't seen many comments here about how attractive she is, but plenty of discussion as to how hot bikini girl is, and even Kara. Am I alone in this? Do I need new contact lenses? Are most of the forum guys gay? What's the story?

You are not alone. I think she's beautiful also. And I don't think that bikini girl is beautiful at all. Kinda plain looking.
I don't think any of them are beautiful. Megan would be the prettiest, bikini girl is not anything special. All she did was wear a bikini and got a boob job.

Kris is at least in the top half for me.

1)Fantasia
2)Studdard
3) Hicks
4)Jordan Sparks
5) Kris Allen
6) David Cook
7) Kelly Clarkson
8) Carri Underwood
I forgot Jordan, she stinks too.

Musically, I prefer his planet.

Otherwise, I'd prefer to be on Underwood's planet. Clarkson can make the donuts.

Clarkson needs to stay far away from donuts

Clarkson needs to stay far away from donuts

But I'll bet she knows the best places to get donuts. Plus it keeps her busy.

Carrie Underwood was the 2009 ACM Female Vocalist of the Year and Entertainer of the Year...without a doubt...the most successful former Idol winner.

Megan seems very sweet. Maybe not smart, who knows? Probably not the classiest. All I know is that she has that classically beautiful face and a gorgeous body. Fun to look at. Interesting that I haven't seen many comments here about how attractive she is, but plenty of discussion as to how hot bikini girl is, and even Kara. Am I alone in this? Do I need new contact lenses? Are most of the forum guys gay? What's the story?

No, you're absolutely on target. She's simply stunning; hottest contestant this year (disclaimer: only watched a few when the wife roped me in). Surely a nominee for MILF of the year. Can you imagine what she must have looked like before having the kid and getting that ink? :eek: ;)

Carrie Underwood was the 2009 ACM Female Vocalist of the Year and Entertainer of the Year...without a doubt...the most successful former Idol winner.

And the most beautiful as well! :cool:


http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/American+Idol+2008+Grand+Finale+Arrivals+-Qxcn2ZlfA6l.jpg

Carrie Underwood was the 2009 ACM Female Vocalist of the Year and Entertainer of the Year...without a doubt...the most successful former Idol winner.


And the most stunning too.

http://www.newstoob.com/media/images/2007/04/carrie-underwood-american-music-awards.jpg

For me the weakest will always be Carrie Underwood. She does absolutely nothing for me. I disliked her on her season and since then she has done nothing to change my mind.

Uhm....I think you are in the minority my friend.

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/gallery/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/carrie-underwood-cma-1.jpg

While we are on the subject of Adam possibly fronting Queen...

He gave a virtual "no comment" on the Queen rumors while talking to Fox News' Brian Kilmeade this morning:

http://mjsbigblog.com/adam-lambert-pleads-the-5th-on-queen-rumors.htm (with video)

Brian also interviewed Kris:

http://mjsbigblog.com/kris-allen-talks-about-american-idol-win.htm (with video)

Critique of the show by Alessandra Stanley of the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/arts/television/21watch.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

I especially like the spot-on last paragraph:

The show is bigger than its parts. It’s a knockoff of a British talent competition that has become the apotheosis of American pop entertainment. It’s a live show so elaborately edited and overly produced that it seems taped, yet at the same time, this formulaic series still manages to look spontaneous even in its eighth iteration.

Primetime Ratings: 'Idol' Finale Dips in Viewers, Remains Dominant in Ratings

According to fast nationals, 27.7 million viewers tuned in, down from 31.7 million for last year's finale

By David Tanklefsky -- Broadcasting & Cable, 5/21/2009 1:59:00 PM MT

Posted at 12:59 p.m. ET

Kris Allen's American Idol victory in Wednesday night's season finale attracted 27.7 million viewers, according to fast nationals. The number was down from the 31.7 million that tuned in to last year's finale. Still, the show's 9.5/27 rating gave Fox a dominant primetime win.

The viewer total was the lowest for an Idol finale since its first season. That comes on the heels of Tuesday's final performance show, which was also the least-watched since season one.

In the first hour, Idol delivered an 8.1/26 followed by CBS at 1.6/5 with The New Adventures of Old Christine (1.6/5) at 8 and Gary Unmarried (1.7/5) at 8:30. ABC and NBC finished in a third place tie at 1.0/3. ABC aired Pirates of the Caribbean 2 while NBC countered with Law & Order: Criminal Intent and the beginning of a Law & Order: SVU re-run.

The first hour of the movie Take the Lead came in at 0.4/1 on the CW.

The last half-hour (9:30-10) of Idol attracted 32.5 million viewers and an 11.5/29 rating. CBS came in second at 9 for the hour, following far behind Idol’s, with a 3.1/8 and 12.4 million viewers for the first hour of the Criminal Minds season finale. The second hour of Pirates of the Caribbean 2 came in at 1.1/3. NBC was fourth at 1.0/3 for a Law & Order: SVU re-run. The CW was fifth with the second hour of Take the Lead pulling a 0.5/1.

The final hour of Criminal Minds earned a 3.8/10 and 15.1 million viewers, the highest-rated and most-watched non-Idol hour of the night. NBC moved up to second with Law & Order delivering a 1.9/5. The last hour of Pirates of the Caribbean 2 earned a 1.3/4 for ABC.

For the night, Fox’s 9.5/27 and 27.7 million viewers, was more than double second place CBS’s total of 11 million viewers and a 2.8/8 rating. NBC was next at 1.3/4. ABC finished with a 1.2/3. The CW was fifth at 0.4/1.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/255024-Primetime_Ratings_Idol_Finale_Dips_in_Viewers_Remains_Domina nt_in_Ratings.php

Adam Lambert singing "It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday" at his high school graduation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA7bA6rhKvc).

Adam Lambert singing "It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday" at his high school graduation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA7bA6rhKvc).

Ah, the new Elvis, dyes his hair from blond to black....

Uhm....I think you are in the minority my friend.

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/gallery/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/carrie-underwood-cma-1.jpg

*Shrug* I would rather be in the minority in this case. She was only the most in one category for me in Idol history and I already said which category that was.

Megan seems very sweet. Maybe not smart, who knows? Probably not the classiest. All I know is that she has that classically beautiful face and a gorgeous body. Fun to look at. Interesting that I haven't seen many comments here about how attractive she is, but plenty of discussion as to how hot bikini girl is, and even Kara. Am I alone in this? Do I need new contact lenses? Are most of the forum guys gay? What's the story?

Beautiful face and chest yes. After that, not a classic beauty at all. She's severely lacking in the butt area and has absolutely no hips. And normally its sexy when a woman dances, but with her its just...sad. Bikini girl does not have a pretty face and no matter how hot her body is its ruined by the underlying personality flaws of the person inhabiting said body. Props to Kara for showing off her goods knowing that in doing so FOX would donate a big chunk of change to her charity.

Wow, I can't remember who waited on me last week, much less 6 years ago. Apparently his charms aren't restricted to teenage girls. ;) No wonder he won! :D good grief...I remember thousands of people by their face...:rolleyes:

Wife actually had a personal discussion with him. Main reason we remembered this visit was bcause I am from Alabama and we would drive down to Bama almost every year (since I moved here). We visited one of the two Colton's (other one is in Russelville) nearly every trip and on this trip (the last visit to Colton's) the food was terrible (steak was tough,etc)...needless to say we weren't happy but he was cool about us not liking it! Our `bad restaraunt ' visits have ben few and far between but we remember employees' faces from those visits. I still recall the waiter who took his bad day out on my wife,mom,late stepdad and myself during their first visit to OKC 8 years ago...weird but true!:o

Probabley OT, but I think that senior singers would fare very well, in terms of singing talent, versus what I perceive as a youth oriented prejudice to this show.

I do free dj/video stuff for a non-profit group called "Ms. NY Senior Idol Contest".

Here's my personal favorite:
www.youtube.com/DivaAnnFisher

And the dancer here is an ex-Radio City Music Hall 'rockette', now over 80 and still able to do a full spit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHuIPTmBPY4&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlasyVFIP5s&feature=channel



iq100
delete my ideas by posting some of your own.
:)

... the pursuit of a true singing star, while minimizing the peripheral distractions of the cheap theatrics and false drama. We're begging for talent rather than twists.


Well said.
I know for a fact that the promoters of the show were approached with the idea of a Senior vs. Youth Idol Contest.
Although initially they were enthusiastic, when they heard some of the audacious mature amateur talent around, they ran for the hills. Advertisement revenue is a problem as some seem to think that it is easier to sell to the young than the more mature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4l9hP4sk3o&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoSJu7DVuIE&feature=channel_page

iq100
delete my ideas by posting some of your own.

...this is the American Idol thread....

I got some Idol news for you:

Kris recently taped an acoustic rendition of "No Boundaries" for this Wednesday's airing of Ellen DeGeneres' show:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9dk78_allen-song_music

In this performance, he took what is on the surface a song that is not quite noteworthy and made it very listenable. Said MJ Santilli in her blog (http://mjsbigblog.com/kris-allen-no-boundaries-the-ellen-degeneres-show-video.htm): "Hope he can perform it this way on tour."

Maybe the Adam Lambert-to-Queen rumors are true?

Brian May talked to Rolling Stone about it:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/05/22/exclusive-queens-brian-may-ponders-american-idol-adam-lambert-as-new-frontman/

Oh, and one more thing:

Danny Gokey will be feted on Tuesday at Milwaukee's Riverside Theater; Jamar Rogers and other members of Danny's church choir are slated to perform:

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2009/05/18/daily92.html

I got some Idol news for you:

Kris recently taped an acoustic rendition of "No Boundaries" for this Wednesday's airing of Ellen DeGeneres' show:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9dk78_allen-song_music

In this performance, he took what is on the surface a song that is not quite noteworthy and made it very listenable. Said MJ Santilli in her blog (http://mjsbigblog.com/kris-allen-no-boundaries-the-ellen-degeneres-show-video.htm): "Hope he can perform it this way on tour."
Thanks for the link. Chris did make this mutt of a song sound better than it deserves but I still feel sorry for him having to record it and perform it every night on tour. It's not exactly Kara's finest effort. That's a real shame too. I looked at some video clips of Kara performing in duets and alone and she is an excellent singer/songwriter. There are also some clips of her discussing her creative process. She a zillion times more talented than Paula and was probably very constrained by the judge's role in AI.

Maybe the Adam Lambert-to-Queen rumors are true?

Brian May talked to Rolling Stone about it:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/05/22/exclusive-queens-brian-may-ponders-american-idol-adam-lambert-as-new-frontman/
WOuld be a good fit..if Plant never comes around to regrouping with LZ.....;)

The pre-finale pimpage for Adam was so heavy, and his presumed victory so taken for granted, that "Extra" seems to have produced a whole lot of video segments highlighting Adam... expecting him to be the winner!

Now that he's only the runner-up that doesn't seem to stop the show from airing all of these clips. It's been non-stop Adam since Wednesday... SAME AS IF HE HAD WON!. No matter, apparently, that he didn't win! Haven't seen hide nor hair of Kris.

Obviously the show wanted Adam to be the winner, because he makes for better TV.

Adam Lambert's singing makes Aikens ears bleed.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/clay-aiken-on-his-adam-lambert-blog-i-hope-he-can-forgive-me/22938

Adam Lambert's singing makes Aikens ears bleed.
I hate to agree with Aiken about anything, but when I heard Kris and Adam singing We Are the Champions...I wanted to shove red hot pokers into my ear canals.

Kris will also do an acoustic take on "Heartless" Wednesday on Ellen:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9dobq_heart-less_music

Scott MacIntyre is unhappy about a planned dueling piano number with Matt Giraud and Billy Joel being cut from the finale after BJ withdrew:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=126127832&blogId=490770250

UPDATE (5/25): BJ's rep says he was never asked to appear on the finale:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/scott-macintyre-on-nixed-american-idol-finale-duet-with-matt-giraud-perhaps-tatiana-and-bikini-girl-were-more-important-after-all_article_18378

TV appearance schedule for Kris, Adam and Danny this week:

http://mjsbigblog.com/kris-allen-adam-lambert-and-danny-gokey-television-schedule.htm

Perhaps those rumors that 38 million votes came from Arkansas alone might be true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/business/media/27idol.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss

Perhaps those rumors that 38 million votes came from Arkansas alone might be true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/business/media/27idol.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss

I smell a rat. This reminds me of the movie, Game Show.

Kris may have a long way to go to catch up to Susan Boyle in the buzz department:

A Google search for “Kris Allen” yields almost 9 million results, but a search for “Susan Boyle” yields more than double Allen’s numbers, with about 24 million results.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521978,00.html

For those who have been hiding under a rock, Susan Boyle is a finalist on Britain's Got Talent (an AI-style talent competition co-created by Simon Cowell, who is also a judge on that show) this year; videos of her two captivating performances are linked to in the above-linked article.

Perhaps those rumors that 38 million votes came from Arkansas alone might be true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/business/media/27idol.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
I have no interest in who wins AI and I don't vote, but this story is stupid. What is the difference if a bunch of people got together and texted like crazy for Adam. I doubt there are enough texts coming from these phones to make a difference in the outcome.

Below is a URL on the voting "scandal" you can actually read w/o becoming a part of a disreputable site.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/27/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main5042391.shtml?source=mostpop_story

Yawn.

I have no interest in who wins AI and I don't vote, but this story is stupid. What is the difference if a bunch of people got together and texted like crazy for Adam. I doubt there are enough texts coming from these phones to make a difference in the outcome.

If there is actually a scandal, is it a matter of life and death? No. Is this issue the most important issue of the day? Absolutely not.

I watch this show every year. I rarely if ever, maybe once, bothered to vote. I just enjoy the entertainment, don't really care about the outcome.

Here's what I find wrong, if it's true, that 38 million votes came out of Arkansas.

AI is the number one show in America. Americans invest a good deal of their leisure time watching this program. It would be a criminal act to provide one contestant with the means to get 38 million votes out of a small state like Arkansas, and not provide the same method for the opponent. This would not just be a crime against the contestants opponent, but a crime against all the folks in America that watch this show.

People that watch AI, should have an expectation that there is no tricks being played with the voting. It's not right to give one contestant an unequal advantage over another contestant.

One would think that the producers of AI would want to investigate and uncover any wrong doing. Their reputation is at stake here. They have been losing viewers steadily for the last couple of seasons. A scandal like this if it'
s true could hurt this show's ratings and credibilty with the viewers that are left.

Contests should be above board and fair. Any funny stuff pulled by sponsers should be investigated. If any wrong doing is found, the perpetrators should be prosecuted for racketeering because, it's a criminal act.

................ One would think that the producers of AI would want to investigate and uncover any wrong doing. Their reputation is at stake here. They have been losing viewers steadily for the last couple of seasons. A scandal like this if it's true could hurt this show's ratings and credibilty with the viewers that are left.


I'm sure if anything was done illegally or improperly the producers will be all over it, since it was blatently obvious that the producer's choice (and judge's choice) for the winner was Adam.

I have no interest in who wins AI and I don't vote, but this story is stupid. What is the difference if a bunch of people got together and texted like crazy for Adam. I doubt there are enough texts coming from these phones to make a difference in the outcome.

One report had one person able to send over 80,000 text votes using these techniques. Whether that is possbile I do not know but its time for AI and these other shows to limit the amount of votes from one number to 2 or 3 and not brag how "we got 80 million votes called in", yah from 300,000 people!

...Here's what I find wrong, if it's true, that 38 million votes came out of Arkansas.

What I find telling, if it's true, is that if 38 million votes came from one state, how low the interest in AI was this year. Without those (yet unproven) numbers, AI's finale voting would have been down a whopping 35% over last year. :eek:

...Contests should be above board and fair...

Agreed. Too bad this thing was biased so heavily toward Adam from day one. :(

I'm sure if anything was done illegally or improperly the producers will be all over it, since it was blatently obvious that the producer's choice (and judge's choice) for the winner was Adam.

I'd certainly label pimping one contestant right down to the last, bitter note and nitpicking all others from the get-go as "improper." :confused: I look forward to seeing a federal inquiry and jail time to all of those involved. :rolleyes:

...its time for AI and these other shows to limit the amount of votes from one number to 2 or 3 and not brag how "we got 80 million votes called in", yah from 300,000 people!

Change the word "people" to "little girls" and you'd be dead on. ;) Personally, I think there should only be one vote allowed per phone number. Period.

Personally, I think there should only be one vote allowed per phone number. Period.

Completely agree.

But, what it all comes down to is revenue. I'm sure they are getting a nice little kickback from AT&T and all that voting via text.

Also, we would really get to see the numbers on how many people actually watch the show.

Here's what I find wrong, if it's true, that 38 million votes came out of Arkansas.Why should anyone care? This is so trivial yet it will get attention :rolleyes:

I think there should only be one vote allowed per phone number. Period.Ditto

In light of the text voting controversy, Eric Deggans of the Huffington Post thinks that Fox should release final vote totals after season's end:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-deggans/american-idol-vote-contro_b_208612.html

In light of the text voting controversy, Eric Deggans of the Huffington Post thinks that Fox should release final vote totals after season's end:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-deggans/american-idol-vote-contro_b_208612.html

That's a good idea.

Off topic comments removed.

http://media.mjsbigblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/allison-label.jpg

Hello folks...I know it has been nearly three weeks since the season finale, but I wanted to let you know that Allison Iraheta has signed with 19/Jive. The official Jive PR:

http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/06-10-2009/0005041478&EDATE=

I feel the same way about how Allison will fare as MJ Santilli does:

I feel pretty confident Allison’s not going to be effed over like last season’s additional signing, Kristy Lee Cook. But if Allison starts getting gigs in coffee bars, there might be a reason to worry…

http://mjsbigblog.com/allison-iraheta-signs-with-19-and-jive-the-official-press-release.htm

(Kristy Lee Cook was dropped by Arista Nashville last December, some six months after the season 7 finale, after her disc Why Wait tanked; she has not been heard from since.)

The above pic of Allison, sexy as she is, was copied from the PR.

She lost a lot of weight in that picture. She just looks like a little redheaded X.

So, who will be the next Idol to get a recording deal? MTV's Eric Ditzian weighs in: he thinks it will be Matt Giraud instead of Danny Gokey. He also thinks Anoop will get left out, but is hoping Megan Joy (!) will break through.

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/06/10/who-will-be-the-next-american-idol-to-sign-a-record-contract/

http://media.mjsbigblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/danny-glasses.jpg

Speaking of Danny, he has a new line of eyewear out:

http://www.framesdirect.com/danny-gokey-eyeglasses.asp

So, who will be the next Idol to get a recording deal?

Adam Lambert. He'll be "recorded" making a drug "deal" within a few months, given his recent interviews.

The 2010 auditions are going on right now. Anyone know if Paula is in the judge group?

The 2010 auditions are going on right now. Anyone know if Paula is in the judge group?
She may very well be. From MJ Santilli's blog: (http://mjsbigblog.com/american-idol-all-four-judges-set-to-return.htm)

According to Radaronline, Simon Cowell, Randy Jackson, Paula Abdul and Kara DioGuardi are all set to return to the next season of American Idol:

"It was widely speculated that either Paula, whose contract is up, or Kara, who came on during this just-completed Season 8 with just a one-year deal, would not be back for Season 9. The four-judge format was often problematic for the live show’s running time and Abdul, Cowell, and former executive producer Nigel Lythgoe all complained that it slowed down the pacing.

"That’s an issue that will be addressed for the next season. In the meantime, Paula and Kara are still in negotiations on the fine points of their contracts which sources believe will be finalized in the next few weeks. A formal announcement is still at least a month away."

Can't wait for this to return. The crap that's on now is so bad.

Walmart will begin selling a CD of studio recordings by this year's top 10 finalists on June 30:

http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/06/american-idol-season-8-album-exclusive-track-listing.html

The track listing:

1. Kris Allen, “No Boundaries”
2. Danny Gokey, “Stand By Me”
3. Allison Iraheta, “I Can’t Make You Love Me”
4. Matt Giraud, “Human Nature”
5. Adam Lambert, “Mad World”
6. Kris Allen, “She Works Hard for the Money”
7. Lil Rounds, “I Surrender”
8. Scott MacIntyre, “Just The Way You Are”
9. Michael Sarver, “You Are Not Alone”
10. Megan [Joy] Corkrey, “Walkin’ After Midnight”
11. Anoop Desai, “Always On My Mind”
12. Adam Lambert, “No Boundaries”

My thoughts on the songs on this collection: Why two versions of "No Boundaries" when one was bad enough? Danny doing "Stand By Me" instead of "What Hurts the Most"? Allison doing “I Can’t Make You Love Me” instead of "Cry Baby"? IMHO this does not on the surface look like a noteworthy compilation.

Heads-up... "AI" will repeat the Michael Jackson catalog episode from this past season tonight. We get to see Megan "Caw Caw" again!

http://www.tvpredictions.com/mondayshows.htm

Not that I didn't like Megan's bird call (her take on "Rockin' Robin" wasn't bad, but the bird call was cute), but I thought that episode's shining moment was when Alexis Grace nailed "Dirty Diana." I still think Alexis should have made the top 5...

Paula calls it quits ???

http://blog.nola.com/idolworship/2009/08/paul_abdul_quits_americal_idol.html

Confirmed. (Yay!)

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/326474-Paula_Abdul_Leaving_American_Idol_.php

I understand people are thrilled, but Simon lobbied AI (Fremantle Media) to get the deal done. The same Simon who "hates" Paula.

Simon knows that Paula is part of the AI success formula. Even if most people hate her, they still want to see what stupid thing she is going to say and to see Simon rightfully pick on her (you know, his "what did you really think?" comments when she dances around saying she didn't like someone's performance), roll his eyes, his jokes towards her, etc. For the tweens who make up a big part of the AI fanbase, they love Paula because her views on AI and its contestants matched theirs: all lovey-dovey towards contestants.

This could be really bad for the AI franchise. That said, reportedly Paula wanted $20 million a year to come back to AI, and they "only" wanted to pay $10 million a year. At this stage in her career, I am shocked that Paula would turn that down. What else is she going to do? Maybe "write" a book about her time on AI, but that won't make up for $10 million per year. Her singing career is totally done, so you can count that out. She could probably get her own reality show, but she won't earn $20 mil per. So I don't really get it.

Paula calls it quits ???

http://blog.nola.com/idolworship/2009/08/paul_abdul_quits_americal_idol.html

Hopefully the beginning of the end for this and all the rest of the braindead reality shows. Let's all find something more intelligent to watch!:)

Its not a reality show per day but more a variety singing show that has some of the more popular acts in music and some classic artists performing during its seasons.
To lump it in with My Dad is better than your Dad and shows of that nature is a bit unfair IMO.

Frankly, I think this isn't good news. I didn't care for Kara at all. And I just think the show is going to suffer without Paula, just like I think it would have suffered without Simon.

And I just think the show is going to suffer without Paula, just like I think it would have suffered without Simon.

The show may suffer but we won't have to suffer listening to slur her way through hazy recollections of the performances, rarely saying anything of significance.

Observers Say Abdul Departure Won't Hurt 'Idol'

Paula Abdul leaves top rated Fox show after eight seasons

By Marisa Guthrie -- Broadcasting & Cable, 8/5/2009 3:19:18 PM EDT

Paula Abdul's departure from American Idol after eight seasons did not surprise media observers. Abdul's habit of dizzy and incoherent commentary, the rumors of substance abuse and varying ethical lapses such as inappropriate behavior with contestants, including an alleged affair with Corey Clark and apparently sitting in on some contestants' rehearsals (a violation of the show's rules), have made Abdul a target for several seasons.

"She was good for controversy," says Brad Adgate, senior VP of research at Horizon Media. "Her judging was probably not up to the level of, say, Simon [Cowell] or even Randy [Jackson]. She was good for the drama and good for sparring with Simon. But I don't know how good of a judge she was."

And few expect her departure to precipitously affect the show's ratings. "I don't think it will make any difference [in the ratings]," says Shari Anne Brill, senior VP and director of programming at Carat. "If Simon left, it would decimate the show."

American Idol, still the top-rated program on television by far, has experienced a ratings slide over the past few seasons.

Many wondered if Abdul, who began her career as an L.A. Lakers dancer and later become a choreographer--a milieu in which she continues to work--might find a more appropriate gig as a judge on Fox's So You Think You Can Dance. Abdul's star power could give Dance a shot in the arm when it enters the more competitive fall arena-a move designed to buoy Fox's perennially challenged pre-Idol fall performance.

"She's better suited to judge [So You Think You can Dance]," Brill says. "It's perfect for her."

But the rumor persists that Abdul may still "surprise" viewers by returning to Idol in some capacity. And her fans have plenty of time to mobilize a Save Paula campaign before the ninth season commences.

"In this day and age, the public can tell Fox by a variety of methods exactly what they think about this," Adgate says. "If Fox gets enough e-mails or enough comments on Twitter or blogs that say, 'I'm not watching the show if Paula's gone,' who knows? They may reconsider."

Abdul announced that she would not return to Idol on her Twitter feed. "I'll miss nurturing all the new talent, but most of all being a part of a show that I helped from day 1 become an international phenomenon," she wrote. "What I want to say most is how much I appreciate the undying support and enormous love that you have showered upon me."

Contract negations between Abdul, Fox and Idol producers 19 Entertainment and FremantleMedia had deteriorated. The companies previously re-signed Cowell, Jackson and host Ryan Seacrest. Fourth judge Kara DioGuardi signed on for a second season earlier this week. Abdul was reportedly asking for $20 million, a payday on par with Cowell's.

The statement from Fox, 19 Entertainment and FremantleMedia was of the we-wish-her-well variety typical after Hollywood negotiations go south.

"Paula Abdul has been an important part of the American Idol family over the last eight seasons and we are saddened that she has decided not to return to the show," the statement read. "While Paula will not be continuing with us, she's a tremendous talent and we wish her the best."

But many observers saw the writing on the wall with the arrival of DioGuardi, a veteran songwriter and producer and an A&R VP at Warner Bros. Records.

"The minute I saw that other female judge, I said, 'Oh, Paula's going to be gone,'" Brill observes.

The four-judge panel could be awkward at times and produced over-runs that occasionally led to comment rationing to keep the live show running on schedule.

"I think the tipping point was when they said only two judges could speak," Adgate says. "So many people tune in to hear Simon's opinion. To pre-empt him didn't do the show any service."

"I think that this ultimately was pre-conceived," Brill adds. "I don't think the intent was ever really to have four judges. As the show started bringing in more serious guest [performers] and as [the show] was starting to get more serious music libraries, I think that demanded someone, another judge, who really was a professional in the music business. And Kara DioGuardi has quite the pedigree."

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/326561-Observers_Say_Abdul_Departure_Won_t_Hurt_Idol_.php

I don't think I will miss Paula that much; aside from the fact that I have watched AI for only two years now, I think her (sometimes) incoherent remarks detracted from the show a bit.

Going forward, the show could go either way. Either Randy and/or Kara will give props to the Idols and balance out Simon's criticism, or all three could pan the performances. I am for now reserving judgment on whether or not the show will go downhill from here; we shall see how it goes come next January.

This could be really bad for the AI franchise. That said, reportedly Paula wanted $20 million a year to come back to AI, and they "only" wanted to pay $10 million a year. At this stage in her career, I am shocked that Paula would turn that down. What else is she going to do? Maybe "write" a book about her time on AI, but that won't make up for $10 million per year. Her singing career is totally done, so you can count that out. She could probably get her own reality show, but she won't earn $20 mil per. So I don't really get it.

At this stage, I don't think the actual dollar amount really matters to any of them. It is the amount relative to what others are getting. Purely ego driven.

They kept the wrong idiot female.

Yes. Paula's wackiness saved this show countless times from being unwatchable. Simon is bored, Randy is a parody of himself, and Kara is completely useless. It's the begining of the end for this show.

At this stage, I don't think the actual dollar amount really matters to any of them. It is the amount relative to what others are getting. Purely ego driven.

Excellent point. IIRC Cowell cut a deal closer to $40M (twice that of what B&C said) and Seacrest got around $30M.

Yeah, crazy money but rememeber, show exec.'s make sure they pay themselves first and it's fair to say it's a lot more than what the talent's payday is, so $20M may not be too far off the mark for Abdul to have aimed for.

Whatever, it think this hybrid-karaoke fest's best days are already behind us.

Paula was loaded on many AI shows - until the last season. I think she had gotten off whatever she was on and consistently made sense. This was the first year where I thought she actually contributed; most of her comments were right on. Had a much better year than Kara, so this is disappointing.

Paula was loaded on many AI shows - until the last season. I think she had gotten off whatever she was on and consistently made senseAdmit it- Paula and the show was more fun when she was hopped up and incoherent.

The thing about this show, nobody cares about any comments, except those of Simon, and the day he leaves, is the day this show mercifully comes to an end.

As for Paula, now she has plenty of free time to do her own E channel reality show, where we can witness another b-lister strung out on OTC meds, stumbling through their day....I think I'll just catch the highlights as I do for all of those shows, on "The Soup".

As for Paula, now she has plenty of free time.................


My wife saw on "Inside Edition" yesterday that Nigel has invited Paula to be a judge (a guest judge I presume) on SYTYCD. :eek:

They kept the wrong idiot female.

+1!

Prediction: Next season will be Simon's last. Then they'll try to put something together with Randy, Kara and...I don't know, David Hasselhoff? That will be the final year.

The thing about this show, nobody cares about any comments, except those of Simon, and the day he leaves, is the day this show mercifully comes to an end.

As for Paula, now she has plenty of free time to do her own E channel reality show, where we can witness another b-lister strung out on OTC meds, stumbling through their day....I think I'll just catch the highlights as I do for all of those shows, on "The Soup".

I don't think people cared about the substance of her comments, but they'd grown accustomed to seeing her brand of back-slapping, effusive praise for a job well done, and for the way she'd find something good in a terrible performance. When Paula started commenting on your looks, you knew she didn't like the performance. That will be missed. Kara adds absolutely nothing to the show. Nothing whatsoever.

When Paula started commenting on your looks, you knew she didn't like the performance.
It seemed to me that she had just blacked out for the past few minutes. If you're going to be a judge, then judge! If a judge doesn't like a performance, they should say so. It's their job!

TCA: Peter Rice Weighs In On 'Idol' Post Paula

Fox Entertainment Chairman says Katy Perry and Victoria Beckham will serve as guest judges

By Stephanie Robbins -- Broadcasting & Cable, 8/6/2009 1:26:41 PM EDT

Fox Entertainment Chairman Peter Rice immediately addressed Paula Abdul's departure from American Idol and confirmed that Katy Perry and Victoria Beckham will be guest judges on the show, during the executive Q&A at Fox's portion of the Television Critics Association summer press tour Aug. 6
"Everyone is aware Paula will not be returning to Idol and it's something that's been very saddening to us," Rice said.

Abdul was the only member of Idol whose contract was up this year. Rice says he wanted her to renew her contract, and he believed she got a fair offer, which included a substantial raise.

With the news occurring only 36 hours ago, Rice said he didn't have any major announcements to make about the show, but did reveal that Katy Perry and Victoria Beckham are confirmed to be guest judges on the upcoming season.

"It's been 24 hours [since] getting these dates done," Rice said. "Katy's dates are still being worked out. There's a lot of logistics in that."

Rice said the intention is to have guest judges at each one of the auditions. Other guest judges have committed, but are not yet confirmed.

"The current focus for Idol is the audition process taking place," Rice said.

"The live show starts in January and in the meantime we'll come up with solution and replacement for Paula," he said.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/326727-TCA_Peter_Rice_Weighs_In_On_Idol_Post_Paula.php

+1!

Prediction: Next season will be Simon's last. Then they'll try to put something together with Randy, Kara and...I don't know, David Hasselhoff? That will be the final year.How many other countries have their own Idol edition (42 or so)? They appear to be surviving rather nicely.

Rumor has it that Gordon Ramsay is in the works as Simon's replacement after next year.

Did anyone catch where Alexis Cohen was killed by a hit-and-run driver?

http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2009/07/large_Alexis-Cohen-American-Idol-death.JPG

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/american_idol_contestant_alexi.html

Rumor has it that Gordon Ramsay is in the works as Simon's replacement after next year.

Sigh. Much as I like Ramsay, it seems AI will go the way of so many other shows in putting some random celebrity with no experience in the field on as an "expert" whose opinion is supposed to mean something.

Rumor has it that Gordon Ramsay is in the works as Simon's replacement after next year.

Simon is an a-hole that knows the business. Ramsay is just an a-hole. Won't work.

Pop Idol only ran two seasons before X-Factor was created. Once Simon leaves Idol he'll be free to bring X-Factor to the US. If Idol were to continue without Simon, he could take X-Factor to another network. IMO that show could be as big or larger than Idol as it's more engaging with a broader range of talent such as group performers. The judges as mentors adds another element to the competition. Simon already has a good relationship with NBC on AGT. Imagine the major bounceback for NBC if they got it. What would happen to FOX without their cash cow?

Paula leaving could just be the beginning of the much bigger story to unfold in the next year or so.

Danny Gokey may announce sometime in the near future that he will sign a recording deal:

http://mjsbigblog.com/danny-gokey-may-sign-a-record-deal-soon.htm

(At the earliest, he would be able to sign on Aug. 20, "independence day" for the Idols not already signed to 19.)

Meanwhile, Paula's manager has denied recent media reports that she is negotiating to come back to AI:

http://mjsbigblog.com/paula-abuduls-manager-denies-shes-returning-to-idol.htm

MJ Santilli is right on the mark about the Paula situation: "It get’s curiourser [sic] and curiouser."

...What would happen to FOX without their cash cow?...

For one, we wouldn't be subject to having good shows moved all over the place to accomodate it. :) If having AI die means that I can watch House (and others) without having those programs on at a "special time" or going on hiatus for 2 weeks, then back for 3, then off for 4.7, then... Let's just say having the cow dead would let me enjoy the few morsels of tasty meat that TV has to offer.

Entertainment Weekly reports that Simon Cowell signed on for another 3 years.*

*Nothing "official" about the statement, it's just a blurb on the last page (target image) of the mag.

Two thoughts wander through my mind this morning.

1. Ellen? Crap. Another sign of the Apocalypse.

2. It's 10:30 Eastern and nobody else has dredged up this thread yet?

I agree. Not a good choice. Might be an "I won't be watching any more" choice.

But, I'm guessing Kara will be happy - she will no longer be the most despised judge on the panel. :)

It's the best reality show on TV. Nothing comes close. I'll miss the distinct drunken nutjob vibe Paula brings to the show, but Ellen won't change the fact that the singers make the show. Not the judges.

Ellen did a terrible job on SYTYCD because she tried to be funny all the time. My wife and I watch this casually, which will be even less casually with her on it.

:eek: Ellen? Really? :eek:

I don't have anything against her, per se, but in relation to this news: when she did a guest appearance on So You Think You Can Dance, she wasn't; funny, insightful, entertaining, or engaging in any way. She tried a few lame, forced, and poorly delivered jokes in regard to the phenomenal performances such as, "Oh, I can do that maneuver," but her efforts came up waaaaaaay short and simply detracted from the show, rather than add anything to it at all. This isn't a good match, imo. :(

If you're looking for a TRULY amazing, classy, and personable singer, check out Barbara Padilla from America's Got Talent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6sUaRagfDA

I don't have anything against her, per se, but in relation to this news: when she did a guest appearance on So You Think You Can Dance, she wasn't; funny, insightful, entertaining, or engaging in any way. She tried a few lame, forced, and poorly delivered jokes in regard to the phenomenal performances such as, "Oh, I can do that maneuver," but her efforts came up waaaaaaay short and simply detracted from the show, rather than add anything to it at all. This isn't a good match, imo. :(

Completely agree. That appearance just seemed to kill the shows vibe. Of course everyone had to do the polite laugh for each forced joke as well, which just made it worse.

"You must be a carpenter, because you nailed it"... polite laughter, eye roll...

And then she repeated the joke later. Ugh.

Every season I contemplate quitting Idol; they sure made it easy for me this year!

Ellen??? Just one more reason to DVR the show ... could they have made a worse selection?

Ellen??? Just one more reason to DVR the show ... could they have made a worse selection?
no not really. this has to be the beginning of the end for this train wreck. They have gone circus now. Ellen is little more than a clown with a legion of lesbians that will watch her "goof", she knows nothing about the music industry or singing as did Randy, Simon and Paula.

That's actually pretty funny reading that Paula knew something about singing. Thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

That's actually pretty funny reading that Paula knew something about singing. Thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

"Her six number one singles on the Billboard Hot 100 tie her for fifth among the female solo performers who have reached #1 there."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Abdul

While I'm not exactly a fan, the above says Paula just might know something about singing whether you believe it or not. Ellen knows zippo, period.

I like Ellen :) and I think she may be a thoughtful voice on AI. It'll be interesting to see if she calls it like it is. Maybe she'll have a take on things that more reflect what I like rather than the artsy hoo ha that the judges fawned all over in the past. :rolleyes:

The question I ask is, "When it comes time for serious critique, can Ellen put aside her schtick and do the job." She did not or could not on her appearance on SYTYCD. I like her and find her hilarious at times, but the job calls for much more than that.

With his condescending attitude, I really hope his CD flops . . .

http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?fromspage=ch/c.htm&categoryid=&only=y&bfromind=7766&eeid=6956888&_sitecat=1479&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=5&ck=&ch=en&ch=en

"Her six number one singles on the Billboard Hot 100 tie her for fifth among the female solo performers who have reached #1 there."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Abdul

While I'm not exactly a fan, the above says Paula just might know something about singing whether you believe it or not. Ellen knows zippo, period.Paula (IMO) used to be able to carry a note fairly well; she was never what you'd call a great singer. What mostly got her over was her then looks and excellent dancing. She's not much different from Janet Jackson.