I meant "kicking themselves"
I don't know if you've taken a look at last Sunday's ads, but for those people who thought that the 5020 was out of their price range, that may no longer be true, at least until the Superbowl.
For those who bought a lesser plasma less than 30 days ago, you may want to do an exchange if the price difference isn't too big.

Not all who did this might share the assumption that their non-pioneer is inferior. :cool:

I'll keep my Sammy FPT-5084. Turns out there was one new in the box out back in the warehouse. $800+$200 for a 3 year in-home warr. BAM!!!:D:D:D

Might not be a Kuro, but it was a fraction of the price.:p

I don't know if you've taken a look at last Sunday's ads, but for those people who thought that the 5020 was out of their price range, that may no longer be true, at least until the Superbowl.
For those who bought a lesser plasma less than 30 days ago, you may want to do an exchange if the price difference isn't too big.

I noticed that too. But you have to realize lots of people are on a REALLY tight budget. For me, I needed to stay under $1K so many tvs, including the 5020 are out of reach. I wonder if Pioneer is starting to come to grips with the reality of the current market. As prevalent as they seem in these forums, there just aren't that many people willing or able to shell out over $3K for a tv these days. Keep the elites to secure that crowd but offer lesser models that are priced competitively.

My question is, is the price drop on the 5020 and 6020 temporary? I was hoping to hold out until spring. I don't want to be kicking myself later for not buying now at this great price.

Yes, it is temporary. I am told the promotional allowance expires in 60 days.

-Robert

Yes, it is temporary. I am told the promotional allowance expires in 60 days.

-Robert

Any educated guess ;) as to whether Pioneer will soon be offering any similar promotional allowancs on the 6020? If the % discount being offered on the 5020 is offered on the 6020 then the 6020 is an option for me.

I am in this boat right now!!!
I have been agonizing about it all weekend. I bought a samsung pn50a650 last sunday and really wanted the 5020 but couldnt do 3500. Now I see it at 2100, still 700 more then I paid for my samsung. I just dont know if it is really worth the 700. I could buy alot of blu-rays for 700 bucks. maybe someone can chime in and help a fella out with the descision?:D

Only you can decide that.

My question is, is the price drop on the 5020 and 6020 temporary? I was hoping to hold out until spring. I don't want to be kicking myself later for not buying now at this great price.

Don't worry about it, in this economy the consumer has the upperhand. Use your power by not purchasing a display until they give you the price you want or close to it. "negotiate"

That is what happen with car purchases. The greater the demand the less price drop you're going to get.

My advice to you would be to wait! wait!

I am in this boat right now!!!
I have been agonizing about it all weekend. I bought a samsung pn50a650 last sunday and really wanted the 5020 but couldnt do 3500. Now I see it at 2100, still 700 more then I paid for my samsung. I just dont know if it is really worth the 700. I could buy alot of blu-rays for 700 bucks. maybe someone can chime in and help a fella out with the descision?:D

If you could afford the extra $700, I would do it. I wouldn't worry about blu-rays, there aren't that many titles anyway. The 5020 is TV that will keep you happy for a while. If you can step up do it or else its going to bug you that you didn't. However, if you're one of those folks that need to keep up with the joneses and upgrade all the time, I would say wait.

Unfortunatly for me, I don't think I'm going to be totally happy with todays display technologies. I won't be content until can get a 55 inch SED or OLED display.

I am in this boat right now!!!
I have been agonizing about it all weekend. I bought a samsung pn50a650 last sunday and really wanted the 5020 but couldnt do 3500. Now I see it at 2100, still 700 more then I paid for my samsung. I just dont know if it is really worth the 700. I could buy alot of blu-rays for 700 bucks. maybe someone can chime in and help a fella out with the descision?:D


Only you can make that call......but personally, I would be reboxing that 650 as we speak, no question the upgrade is worth the $700. Just consider how hard you contemplated it at a much higher differential, now it's $1,400 closer.

Thats a 5020 1080p for the price I paid for my 5080......but I'm holding out for a similar deal on the 6020 or 151.....gotta go bigger next time around.

I noticed that too. But you have to realize lots of people are on a REALLY tight budget. For me, I needed to stay under $1K so many tvs, including the 5020 are out of reach. I wonder if Pioneer is starting to come to grips with the reality of the current market. As prevalent as they seem in these forums, there just aren't that many people willing or able to shell out over $3K for a tv these days. Keep the elites to secure that crowd but offer lesser models that are priced competitively.

I wonder if some people will come to grips with reality and realize that even though they can't afford something, there are plenty of others that can. Just because you can only afford a Honda, doesn't mean Mercedes needs to lower their prices to Honda levels. At ~$2000, the Pioneer 5020 is priced VERY competitively.

I recently visited a BB and got into a discussion with the sales person there and he said, they sell Elite 141s at a ratio of 10 to 1 compared to the XBR8. And they said they've sold quite a few Elite 141s. So "in this economy," apparently people are willing to spend $5000-$7000 on a Pioneer plasma. And if they are, Pioneer has priced it right.

I am in this boat right now!!!
I have been agonizing about it all weekend. I bought a samsung pn50a650 last sunday and really wanted the 5020 but couldnt do 3500. Now I see it at 2100, still 700 more then I paid for my samsung. I just dont know if it is really worth the 700. I could buy alot of blu-rays for 700 bucks. maybe someone can chime in and help a fella out with the descision?:D

It really depends how tight your budget is, but that's a CRAZY PRICE for the 5020, it's less that what people who worked at BB, Tweeter, etc paid for it.
If you can do it without starving to death, getting kicked out of your house/apartment, getting your car repoed, etc then I'd definately go for the Pioneer.

It really depends how tight your budget is, but that's a CRAZY PRICE for the 5020, it's less that what people who worked at BB, Tweeter, etc paid for it.
If you can do it without starving to death, getting kicked out of your house/apartment, getting your car repoed, etc then I'd definately go for the Pioneer.


Agreed. That's just a startling good price on a 5020 period, but ESPECIALLY from an authorized B&M.

Although I've made up my mind on a 6020, the "new" 5020 price has made it tough. I wish THEY'D (the 6020's) see a similar price slash (say, around $3300, authorized?!). Always that premium on the BIG screen sizes, though!

James

I was just in BB, and was shocked to see the 111fd for sub-$3000. For $600 over the 5020, that's a hell of a deal.

- msc

having no idea what Pioneers cost are compared to Panny 800u and 850u.....

Seems to me they'd sell the Kuro like hot cakes if they'd price it at same price as the High End Panny's instead of way above that price.

kinda hoping for one more cut into a 6020. They can be had in the 37-38 neighborhood, authorized. Anyone got any info on a similar "5020" price cut or a "better" deal? Please PM me!

thanks,
James

I meant "kicking themselves"
I don't know if you've taken a look at last Sunday's ads, but for those people who thought that the 5020 was out of their price range, that may no longer be true, at least until the Superbowl.
For those who bought a lesser plasma less than 30 days ago, you may want to do an exchange if the price difference isn't too big.

My advice would be to stop shopping at local B&M's. BB's price is nothing exceptional compared to online price fluctuations dating back to October (or even earlier, and especially factoring in tax).

Deleting my own post -- more reading on the Kuro official threads has led me to the discussion of my issue.

kinda hoping for one more cut into a 6020. They can be had in the 37-38 neighborhood, authorized. Anyone got any info on a similar "5020" price cut or a "better" deal? Please PM me!

thanks,
James


Went to Buy.com, based on an earlier post and you can actually get a 6020 shipped for 3.3 and you can knock another 1% off if you access buy.com through ebates. Decisions, decisions...:eek:

My advice would be to stop shopping at local B&M's. BB's price is nothing exceptional compared to online price fluctuations dating back to October (or even earlier, and especially factoring in tax).

True, but remember that B&M's offer no interest, which I highly doubt your CC is anywhere close to....and a decent sized purchase.
Now if you plan on paying the tab off immediately on your CC then that would be the way to go.(online wit hyour own CC)

True, but remember that B&M's offer no interest, which I highly doubt your CC is anywhere close to....and a decent sized purchase.
Now if you plan on paying the tab off immediately on your CC then that would be the way to go.(online wit hyour own CC)

You're right, BB also offer 36 month No Interest Financing from what I undestand. So after adding my state's sales tax, that would be $46.75 a month for 36 Months for a 5020. Also, many of the online places are NOT authorized dealers and so you don't have a Manufacturer's Warranty on most of these online places even if they lie and claim you have an Manufacturer's Warranty
.

Went to Buy.com, based on an earlier post and you can actually get a 6020 shipped for 3.3 and you can knock another 1% off if you access buy.com through ebates. Decisions, decisions...:eek:

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Buy

Caveat emptor

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Buy

Caveat emptor

Right. I'm not in the business of bashing businesses, online or otherwise, but I've heard nothing good about buy.com...and I mean nothing.

This coming from the guy who was inches away from pulling the trigger on a 6020 from them and just couldn't do it.

James

I was just in BB, and was shocked to see the 111fd for sub-$3000. For $600 over the 5020, that's a hell of a deal.

- msc

That makes 2 of us. And they offer 3 year no interest financing too.

I will keep my 2008 end of the year model KDL 46V3000 Sony Bravia with the nice bezel, that I picked it up at the CC website a few months ago for $1300, and a little fanagaling with my local store. It was $300 cheaper than even the most questionable internet stealer out there and $500 less than Amazon.

It was a no brainer! And no regrets.

Mike

Right. I'm not in the business of bashing businesses, online or otherwise, but I've heard nothing good about buy.com...and I mean nothing.

This coming from the guy who was inches away from pulling the trigger on a 6020 from them and just couldn't do it.

James

Gracious. I hadn't finished the research but Reseller ratings is always on the list of sites to check before pulli9ng the trigger. Sometimes a deal is too good to be true.

I was just in BB, and was shocked to see the 111fd for sub-$3000. For $600 over the 5020, that's a hell of a deal.

- msc

Is that sub 3K an advertised deal? It is no where close to that on their website.

Is that sub 3K an advertised deal? It is no where close to that on their website.

I've seen it in two stores already. That price is insane, especially the 5020.

Prices will get even more insane "lower" people, as this economy is not going to get better anytime soon, inventory is moving at a snails pace, if they tell you otherwise they are full of it.

im a little sour, i just got my 5020 last week and then they drop the price 500... i was torn between the 5020 and the 111, at a sub 3k price i wouldve definitely opted for the 111 over the 5020

Man that is sweet I might just go and return this 52 A750 now for that bad boy since it was the TV I wanted. It would be only about $300 more than what I paid for the LCD. I wish BB gave me a bigger credit line with all the stuff I buy from them. (I got $1400 and the they send me some HSBC other card with 2,000 with like 30% apr go figure. CC gave me 6000 I almost sh!t when I saw that).

Looks like I cant get this Plasma delivered in my area it said anyone else having this problem. I'm in Chicagoland and there only 2 that say they have them in.

Nevermind I just did a credit Increase gave me $2800 LOL.

It really depends how tight your budget is, but that's a CRAZY PRICE for the 5020, it's less that what people who worked at BB, Tweeter, etc paid for it.
If you can do it without starving to death, getting kicked out of your house/apartment, getting your car repoed, etc then I'd definately go for the Pioneer.

This might not be such a no-brainer as you might think. I got a TH-46PZ800U less than 30 days ago at BB for $1499. To return it and get the 5020FD at $2199, that's $700 difference. Then there is the difference in 4-year Geek Squad coverage plan. For the Panny was $249 and for Kuro it's $399. That's another $150. The additional tax is another $50. So that's $900 - assuming they don't charge a 15% restocking fee which there's nothing stopping them from doing that which would push it to over $1100 diff. That's a 75% premium over my set. Is the Kuro worth an extra $900-$1100 more? My set has a fantastic picture. I know the Kuro has better blacks and 72Hz/3:3 24p playback, and it would be a larger set at 50". But on the other hand I already can tell that even 50" wouldn't be enough - I could take that $1000 and put it away towards a killer 60-65" set a few years down the road. Not that I have the extra $1000 now anyway. Hey in today's economy $1K is a lot of money for a lot of folks including me. Also if I do go for a bigger set a few years down the road, my 46" would probably go easier into a bedroom or I could even give it to one of the kids.

Don't get me wrong - if somebody asked me which set to get today I would definitely recommend this deal on the 5020FD - that's an unbelievable deal. It's just not necessarily a slam dunk for somebody to go back on the set they already bought a few weeks ago.

Well my friend went into BB today and he was told March is when they will have them back in stock. There are no more in the Livermore main warehouse and there are no more 5020's in a 100 mile radius and he is number 5 on the waiting list to get one that is backordered..... Good luck finding one for the moment or if you do buy one and wait it might be a while unless you talk to the forum sponsors. I know that the 36 month no interest is important to some as it was to me. They told my buddy that they are no longer in production. I don't get how BB would run a deal like this and then not have any in stock in a 100 mile radius. Fn ridiculous marketing...

This might not be such a no-brainer as you might think. I got a TH-46PZ800U less than 30 days ago at BB for $1499. To return it and get the 5020FD at $2199, that's $700 difference. Then there is the difference in 4-year Geek Squad coverage plan. For the Panny was $249 and for Kuro it's $399. That's another $150. The additional tax is another $50. So that's $900 - assuming they don't charge a 15% restocking fee which there's nothing stopping them from doing that which would push it to over $1100 diff. That's a 75% premium over my set. Is the Kuro worth an extra $900-$1100 more? My set has a fantastic picture. I know the Kuro has better blacks and 72Hz/3:3 24p playback, and it would be a larger set at 50". But on the other hand I already can tell that even 50" wouldn't be enough - I could take that $1000 and put it away towards a killer 60-65" set a few years down the road. Not that I have the extra $1000 now anyway. Hey in today's economy $1K is a lot of money for a lot of folks including me. Also if I do go for a bigger set a few years down the road, my 46" would probably go easier into a bedroom or I could even give it to one of the kids.

Don't get me wrong - if somebody asked me which set to get today I would definitely recommend this deal on the 5020FD - that's an unbelievable deal. It's just not necessarily a slam dunk for somebody to go back on the set they already bought a few weeks ago.

Yeah for you not such a deal if you think about it. I say ditch the warranty and so will everyone else on here, trust me on that. 4 more inches would be nice ( I know, thats what she said) but if you are happy with your panny then keep it and save yourself the hassle. If you try to get a 5020 from BB you might be waiting awhile.

Check out the price plasmaconcepts is selling the 5020 for. They are an authorized dealer and forum sponsor. Its several hundred cheaper than BB with free shipping and no tax.

Check out the price plasmaconcepts is selling the 5020 for. They are an authorized dealer and forum sponsor. Its several hundred cheaper than BB with free shipping and no tax.

Wow that is a great price. I wonder if they will let me trade in a 25-day used set and offer me 36-month interest-free financing. (Just kidding) For my next set I'll definitely check out what the forum sponsors have to offer...

To the OP, as the model ages, you can expect larger discounts.

Chris

Hey chris I sent you a PM.

There is a whole lot more kicking going on in the lcd...remorse land threads than here on plasmas. Luckily the lcds are cheap, for anyone shelling out 6 grand for an lcd though...I could have had a v8 comes to mind.

There can be only 1, nirivana 60" experience. 151fd.

Nope
50 measly inches at 12.5+ feet no not at all. She's too tiny for my big vision.
But....a fine TV.

im a little sour, i just got my 5020 last week and then they drop the price 500... i was torn between the 5020 and the 111, at a sub 3k price i wouldve definitely opted for the 111 over the 5020

Don't they have a 30 day price match gurantee where you bought it?
I know at BB they'll give you 110% of the difference. In other words if it's 500 cheaper at their own store or other stores within the next 30 days, they'll give you 550 bucks back.

My advice would be to stop shopping at local B&M's. BB's price is nothing exceptional compared to online price fluctuations dating back to October (or even earlier, and especially factoring in tax).

Try doing a return with an online dealer and buy re-stocking fee. I happy but Tax to have the easy option of doing a local return WITHOUT restkconing fee at BB.

I will go B&B over online unkless I can make a great amount of savings and I'm not seeing it here. BB is as cheaper or cheaper than most onine

This might not be such a no-brainer as you might think. I got a TH-46PZ800U less than 30 days ago at BB for $1499. To return it and get the 5020FD at $2199, that's $700 difference. Then there is the difference in 4-year Geek Squad coverage plan. For the Panny was $249 and for Kuro it's $399. That's another $150. The additional tax is another $50. So that's $900 - assuming they don't charge a 15% restocking fee which there's nothing stopping them from doing that which would push it to over $1100 diff. That's a 75% premium over my set. Is the Kuro worth an extra $900-$1100 more? My set has a fantastic picture. I know the Kuro has better blacks and 72Hz/3:3 24p playback, and it would be a larger set at 50". But on the other hand I already can tell that even 50" wouldn't be enough - I could take that $1000 and put it away towards a killer 60-65" set a few years down the road. Not that I have the extra $1000 now anyway. Hey in today's economy $1K is a lot of money for a lot of folks including me. Also if I do go for a bigger set a few years down the road, my 46" would probably go easier into a bedroom or I could even give it to one of the kids.

Don't get me wrong - if somebody asked me which set to get today I would definitely recommend this deal on the 5020FD - that's an unbelievable deal. It's just not necessarily a slam dunk for somebody to go back on the set they already bought a few weeks ago.


BB will not charge a restocking fee if within 30 days, you have all original packaging(box) and your receipt....against their own policy, no?
I had to return a Pioneer 5080 last year due to three dead pixels and it was within 30 days and I had no problems.

but is the 5020 700 dollars better then the samsung pn50a650?
I really like the fact that I only paid 1400 for my 50" plasma, I feel it is a good picture, but still have doubts about how much better the 5020 is.
I kinda want it to go with my elite reciever but 2100.00 is alot of coin the way the economy is right now.

Nope
50 measly inches at 12.5+ feet no not at all. She's too tiny for my big vision.
But....a fine TV.

A 1080p 150" projo is much better and cheaper... ;)

Chris

Check out the price plasmaconcepts is selling the 5020 for. They are an authorized dealer and forum sponsor. Its several hundred cheaper than BB with free shipping and no tax.
Who is the local rep on these boards for plasmaconcepts?

Who is the local rep on these boards for plasmaconcepts?

I'd like to know this too!

Forum sponsors forgive me :cool:
Kuro boys and girls, I just read an email from buy.com that has a 5020/bdp 51 tv/bluray bundle for a real good price. Y'all know I am Sammy guy but even that price raised my eyebrow.
Again forum sponsors dont hate me, just thought I'd pass along some info :)

Forum sponsors forgive me :cool:
Kuro boys and girls, I just read an email from buy.com that has a 5020/bdp 51 tv/bluray bundle for a real good price. Y'all know I am Sammy guy but even that price raised my eyebrow.
Again forum sponsors dont hate me, just thought I'd pass along some info :)

Buy.com is not an authorized dealer :confused:

Who is the local rep on these boards for plasmaconcepts?


I am from Plasma Concepts. If you have questions for us, please use our toll free number or chat with us on our site. Please keep questions for us off the boards as they are really not meant for retailer interactions, just technical questions.

Thanks,
Bob Doseck

The price went back up on plasmaconcepts. :(
Still a very good deal!

not to mention they are not in stock

I knew I made the right move getting min last night.

The price went back up on plasmaconcepts. :(
Perhaps a little consumer pressure can get it back down? Powerbuy anyone?

Perhaps a little consumer pressure can get it back down? Powerbuy anyone?

Seriously.

i'm in

powerbuy possible?

What's a powerbuy?

A 1080p 150" projo is much better and cheaper... ;)

Chris

Yeah I've been thinking about that.;)

Edited out of respect.

What's a powerbuy?

.. i believe several buyers going in together to garner better personal price per unit. :)

Best Buy MSRP for Kuro ElitE 111FD right now is.. 2799.99$

that is the price I got today =]

Can't post prices.

forgive my ignorance, but why?.. doesn't that help potential buyers?

.. i believe several buyers going in together to garner better personal price per unit. :)

Oh I see, thanks. I guess I missed the train since I just bought one at noon today from them, still a good price though.

forgive my ignorance, but why?.. doesn't that help potential buyers?

It's against forum rules. That's all I know.

powerbuy possible?

I don't know.

...bdoseck, give us some input...please?

Ok I found out why, because the moderators dont want this be a forum for advertisement-- instead they want it to be a place to help others and get help regarding A/V issues not Sales prices.. Ill keep that in mind-- i apologize!!

1.) Because it's forum rules.

2.) Because it probably keeps BS vendors who'd rip customers off (IE: Idonesian sellers who'll give you a 151FD for $2000...if you'll just give them your credit card # and social security #...) from advertising here in any meaningful way.

3.) Because it probably helps the authorized dealers and forum sponsors actually avoid price wars with each other while still providing them an avenue to find potential customers.

Yeah I've been thinking about that.;)

For the money that is the route to go! Although make sure that you control the light within your room. However, within a basement or darkened room, projo's look great!

Chris

forgive my ignorance, but why?.. doesn't that help potential buyers?

Because this is a site dedicated to help others through technical issues, support and questions about certain electronic devices. There are also forum sponsors on here that can match and better the price of anything you would be able to find in a store and most online sites. The sponsors are located on the top of the site. If prices were allowed then every thread would be about prices of tv's and where they can be bought for cheap. MSRP of electronics are allowed so feel free to post actual manufacturer prices but keep the sales prices out of the posts to respect the mods and the forum sponsors...

For the money that is the route to go! Although make sure that you control the light within your room. However, within a basement or darkened room, projo's look great!

Chris
100% Agree.

Solo, I can dig points 1 and 2, but lets be real!

price war between dealers/sponsors is a great thing for the customer! its like being at an auction, but the price goes down instead of up.

but I can totally respect the rules and the people who provide everyone with this great forum. so I wont be offending the rules again.

Thanks!

Back to topic,

if you have regrets about a set.. do what I did.. sell it and get what you want!

Ive gone from your basic Sony Bravia 40'

Returned it for a 40' Samsung 650

Returned it for a 40' XBR4..

Sold it..

and now Ive just picked up a Pio Elite 50' 111FD!

Is the 111fd significantly better than the 5020 ??

Curious as to the primary differences perceived by those who have compared the two.

Is it mainly from a calibration point of view ??

If you could afford the extra $700, I would do it. I wouldn't worry about blu-rays, there aren't that many titles anyway. The 5020 is TV that will keep you happy for a while. If you can step up do it or else its going to bug you that you didn't. However, if you're one of those folks that need to keep up with the joneses and upgrade all the time, I would say wait.

Unfortunatly for me, I don't think I'm going to be totally happy with todays display technologies. I won't be content until can get a 55 inch SED or OLED display.

This is the post of the year. I thought I'd never hear those words out of you Auditor. ;) I knew the price on these were what was nagging at you most.

You could be waiting some time for SED, OLED, or even FED. Are you interested in the 5 lumen technology PDPs this year? (of course we don't know prices yet and as always that dictates a persons choice).

That's quite a price on the 5020. You just don't see those kind of deals on the 6020 though.

I'd considered the 5020 just out of my price range, but that deal is tempting! I was planning on waiting until May to see what the Panny V10 will be like............:confused:

Great prices but I wouldn't return my 5020 I'd only save ~ 400 plus there's no guarantee I'd get another trouble free set like I have now.

This is the post of the year. I thought I'd never hear those words out of you Auditor. ;) I knew the price on these were what was nagging at you most.

You could be waiting some time for SED, OLED, or even FED. Are you interested in the 5 lumen technology PDPs this year? (of course we don't know prices yet and as always that dictates a persons choice).

My plan is to upgrade in 4 years to a 65" OLED for around $3K.

Great prices but I wouldn't return my 5020 I'd only save ~ 400 plus there's no guarantee I'd get another trouble free set like I have now.

Why do you have to return? I know many authorized dealers like BB give you 110% of the difference back if you find it within 30 days for less money elsewhere.
For example, if you find it $700 cheaper at a LEGIT competitor within 30 days, then they'll give you $770 back.

Problem with BB is they won't match anything unless it's a local store, that means no matching with amazon.com or AVSForums sponsored stores even though they are certified by Pioneer to sell the TVs.

I think the Pioneer is overrated, coming from my families 5080. If you don't like your panel, that is one thing. Don't think that pio owners are sitting around congratulating themselves. They are all looking at the 09's and elites..

The key is to get a panel that fits your space and use, and work with it until it is eclipsed by much better, and cheaper technology. The wait won't be long. Today's Pio's will be tomorrows moorings, and their power useage alone will be scoffed at-

Anka XBR6 40.:cool:

This is the post of the year. I thought I'd never hear those words out of you Auditor. ;) I knew the price on these were what was nagging at you most.

You could be waiting some time for SED, OLED, or even FED. Are you interested in the 5 lumen technology PDPs this year? (of course we don't know prices yet and as always that dictates a persons choice).

Price is always a major factor. The only display technology that justifies a high price is SED or OLED because those are new technologies, technologies that are poise to revolutionize display technology as we know it.

You're crazy too, the 5080 is a fine tv. the 5020 is even better

I think the Pioneer is overrated, coming from my families 5080. If you don't like your panel, that is one thing. Don't think that pio owners are sitting around congratulating themselves. They are all looking at the 09's and elites..

The key is to get a panel that fits your space and use, and work with it until it is eclipsed by much better, and cheaper technology. The wait won't be long. Today's Pio's will be tomorrows moorings, and their power useage alone will be scoffed at-

Anka XBR6 40.:cool:

To add to the distaste of this thread, consumers should spend the time searching the marketplace, and know the state of the economy. I would guess 99.9% of consumers in the know could have predicted exactly this price fall. If that consumer decided to go with a cheaper set or bite the bullit and pay the extra 5 houndred to a thousand to have the set early, they should have known the score. (I think they did).

Buy now or buy tomorrow for less and get better technology!

:)

Problem with BB is they won't match anything unless it's a local store, that means no matching with amazon.com or AVSForums sponsored stores even though they are certified by Pioneer to sell the TVs.
No offense, but not true in my experience.

I purchased a Panasonic 50PZ850 a month ago, and I got them to match Crutchfield's price; $800 below MSRP, and $300 below their "sale" price at the time. Without hassle, on a NIB unit. I asked for a match based on information I read here, and the manager did it without any trouble whatsoever.

I cannot say that they would do this for all brands, but they will price match. YMMV.

Anka: Yes, most people here could see this economic influence coming, hence my unwillingness to purchase my set without a "deal" last month. I felt that if I could get a decent below-market (close to online) price locally, I'd struck a reasonable balance between having-it-now, and waiting for prices to eventually fall. Its always a crap shoot, isn't it?

To add to the distaste of this thread, consumers should spend the time searching the marketplace, and know the state of the economy. I would guess 99.9% of consumers in the know could have predicted exactly this price fall. If that consumer decided to go with a cheaper set or bite the bullit and pay the extra 5 houndred to a thousand to have the set early, they should have known the score. (I think they did).

Buy now or buy tomorrow for less and get better technology!

:)

Following your logic, I would wait an infinitely long time to pay one penny for a set with best PQ subject to the laws of physics. :)

I meant "kicking themselves"
I don't know if you've taken a look at last Sunday's ads, but for those people who thought that the 5020 was out of their price range, that may no longer be true, at least until the Superbowl.
For those who bought a lesser plasma less than 30 days ago, you may want to do an exchange if the price difference isn't too big.

Not for nothing but I've seen in a number of places on this forum, mention of the 5020 having some sort of low buzzing/humming noise. I would probably want to be checking this out first before buying one...

I think the Pioneer is overrated, coming from my families 5080. If you don't like your panel, that is one thing. Don't think that pio owners are sitting around congratulating themselves. They are all looking at the 09's and elites..

The key is to get a panel that fits your space and use, and work with it until it is eclipsed by much better, and cheaper technology. The wait won't be long. Today's Pio's will be tomorrows moorings, and their power useage alone will be scoffed at-

Anka XBR6 40.:cool:

enjoy the clouding, sparklies, terrible viewing angle, and "deep" "rich" blacks on your sony

That makes 2 of us. And they offer 3 year no interest financing too.

And free delievery and setup!

I just bought the Pioneer PDP-5020FD from plasmaconcepts.com this morning. Can someone please PM and let me know if I got a good price since I know we can't discuss pricing here?

I've been tracking the price on this TV and couldn't believe the price when I saw it.

Well mine was supposed to be here Wednesday but it looks like I may not get it til Feb 02. What a crock! I'm pretty po'ed about the situation. It was processed on the 21st. If it takes until the second then I will never buy from them again. 2 weeks is unacceptable when you are quoted 3-5 business days. I hope they pull through.

I just bought the Pioneer PDP-5020FD from plasmaconcepts.com this morning. Can someone please PM and let me know if I got a good price since I know we can't discuss pricing here?

I've been tracking the price on this TV and couldn't believe the price when I saw it.you got a great price, if you payed the price I saw on their website, you got a fantastic PDP.

If you have a Costco in town you can get BB to price match. Was on the last day that I could return my 5020 and got them to match the BB new low price, then got home and realized a few hours later that Costco had it for a few hundred cheaper, back out to BB and one more price match. That was over $550 saved in one day - I feel even better about my 5020 - great picture, great price. Say what you want about BB, but I have saved a lot of money this year using their price match including getting a Panny BD35 for under $150 during the Holidays. Seconds on the XBR6 comments, I have an XBR4 that I find unwatchable now that I have the Pioneer. Uneven backlighting on the Sony drives me crazy. LCD no more.

If you have a Costco in town you can get BB to price match.

I checked the Costco site this morning, and the price was about the same as where I bought mine. The kicker for me was free shipping and no sales tax. So basically the price advertised was what I paid out the door.

Plasmaconcepts.com rep said it would ship out today and take 3-5 business days to arrive. So we're looking at Friday at the latest. Unbelievable deal!

I ordered mine from Costco this weekend. Great price, and I know it's a touchy subject, but for something this expensive, I guess I don't mind paying the sales tax. Plus Costco gives you a 2 year warrenty on it, and I have the Executive membership, so that's 2% cashback, and online you can use a regular Visa card, so that's another 1% back also! :)

If I could get the 5020 for $500 less, and find a place selling it with 36 month financing... I'd be all over it.

Since that isn't going to happen, I'll stick with my 650 and be pretty happy with it.

If you have a Costco in town you can get BB to price match. Was on the last day that I could return my 5020 and got them to match the BB new low price, then got home and realized a few hours later that Costco had it for a few hundred cheaper, back out to BB and one more price match. That was over $550 saved in one day - I feel even better about my 5020 - great picture, great price. Say what you want about BB, but I have saved a lot of money this year using their price match including getting a Panny BD35 for under $150 during the Holidays. Seconds on the XBR6 comments, I have an XBR4 that I find unwatchable now that I have the Pioneer. Uneven backlighting on the Sony drives me crazy. LCD no more.

you remind me of someone i know...........always wanting to take advantage of something/someone