View Full Version : Addon lens to reduce throw distance


Harry Muscle
01-23-09, 10:48 PM
Is there such a thing as an addon lens that you can put in front of the projector to reduce the throw distance required to create a large image. For example, at 8' my projector throws a 67" image, but I would like to be closer to 100". Is that possible with an addon lens.

Thanks,
Harry

bosng
01-24-09, 03:03 AM
possible with letterbox material and an anamorphic lens that stretches the width of your picture.

your projector also has to support this feature by making the picture "taller"

do a search to read up on that if that's new to you. if your projector is already capable of that you're good to go.

if you have an older projector that is 4:3 you can use an htpc to vertically stretch the image as well.

robbyc30
01-24-09, 04:37 AM
Here's a link to a review of one lens, of the type that you could use:

http://www.wrotniak.com/photo/e10/wcon-08b.html

There are lots of these types of camera conversion lenses out there, most of them less than $200. You could also go with a much more expensive lens, like this:

http://presentation.navitar.com/pages/product_information/screenstar_projection_conversion_lenses/overview.cfm

Rob

jrwhite
01-24-09, 10:05 AM
I researched this quite a bit, and tried quite a few lenses ( including the abovve mentioned Olympus WCON-08 ) and the only one I found that would provide satisfactory results was the Sony VCL-HG0758.

Be aware that you can't just screw it on to the end of the prime lens of your projector, you are going to have to build a custom mount for it. The mount must allow you to adjust the both the height and pitch of the lens. Positioning the lens in front of the prime lens of your projector is a finikey process involving the distance between the prime lens and rear-element of the add-on lens, the height above ( or below ) the prime lens, and the pitch of the add-on lens. Unless it's exactly right, you'll see either geometric or focus distortion on the projected image. Also beware that this lens is heavy. The mount has to be solid, as well as the mount's connection to your ceiling ( or table, which is how I used it ). You can find the Sony lens online for about $250.

The expensive Navitars are easier to setup as they are designed especially for this purpose with a very large rear element. There are also mounts available for them. But, this of course comes at a cost, in this case over $1K with the mount.

If your throw is constrained because of the depth of your room, a MUCH easier solution is the 'mirror trick'. Simply point your projector at your back wall ( about 2 feet away ), and hang a mirror where the beam lands on the back wall. This will increase your throw distance to the length of your room +2 feet. Using a first surface mirror from a junked RPTV is ideal, but I've had good results with just a regular good quality mirror. You just have to set your projector to 'rear projection' mode so the image is flipped horizontally to account for the mirror.

Hope this helps,

Jonathan