Has anyone actually gotten their demo today?? How is it? Debating on going to the store to preorder

killzone 3????

Eu gets the demo Thursday. setup an Eu account and get it Thursday.

Hey, if you've pre-ordered the game from GS, please read the card.

It's, say it with me now, KILLZONE 2.

The demo won't go live until Thursday.

Too many Killzone threads...:p

Hey, if you've pre-ordered the game from GS, please read the card.

It's, say it with me now, KILLZONE 2.

The demo won't go live until Thursday.

Nah the Gamestop one goes live today

Nah the Gamestop one goes live today

nope, they send out the demo codes via email today. the demo goes up on thursday.

Nah the Gamestop one goes live today

Wow, aren't you stubborn.

It's been known for a while now that the demo will go up on the 5th of Feb which is a Thursday which coincides with when the PS Store gets updated.

Feel free to keep trying to download it today though. Enjoy!

Wow, aren't you stubborn.

It's been known for a while now that the demo will go up on the 5th of Feb which is a Thursday which coincides with when the PS Store gets updated.

Feel free to keep trying to download it today though. Enjoy!

I had the demo weeks ago so I dont know what you are talking about. I cant seem to find it right now but I remember the jungle scene and the mexicans shooting at me. I know it was Killzone 2 for a fact and not some other game. I just cant seem to find it again.

Does anybody know if the Hong Kong PSN will be getting the demo on Thursday ?

- Jason

More questions? Will the demo just have the offline portion of the game or will it include the online portion as well?

More questions? Will the demo just have the offline portion of the game or will it include the online portion as well?

Offline only. The first two story missions and the tutorial level.

Does the pre-order code get entered on the XMB or is there a webpage to enter it on? A friend of mine sent me one and didn't tell me where to enter it. I tried the XMB but it didn't work.

Thanks,

JD

Does anybody know if the Hong Kong PSN will be getting the demo on Thursday ?

- Jason

No, but the UK PSN will. I just used the address of the Trafalgar Square Hilton when I set mine up. Easy Peasy.

This is the 5th KZ2 thread here. There's no doubt in my mind that it'll be an excellent game but... 5 threads? Was Halo3 or any other big title this bad on 360 side of the boards? Something tells me this won't be the last of it either.

Maybe I'm just jealous... no PS3 until mid March (in EU on business. Back in the US in mid March)

I had the demo weeks ago so I dont know what you are talking about. I cant seem to find it right now but I remember the jungle scene and the mexicans shooting at me. I know it was Killzone 2 for a fact and not some other game. I just cant seem to find it again.

I love you

Does the pre-order code get entered on the XMB or is there a webpage to enter it on? A friend of mine sent me one and didn't tell me where to enter it. I tried the XMB but it didn't work.

Thanks,

JD

Under account management or in the PS Store, just choose the option to "redeem code" and you'll be set.

No, but the UK PSN will. I just used the address of the Trafalgar Square Hilton when I set mine up. Easy Peasy.


Thanks , guess I'll have to make another account ;) .

- Jason

I love that Kotaku has changed who's getting the demo in their post about 16 times. First NA gets it, then it doesn't, then it does, then it's only for GS pre-orders. Good job. UK store, here I come.

i decided to preorder it today. haven't received any codes via email tho yet. hopefully i will be eligible.

I used a game store in London called Replay as my address. What time Central should the demo becoming up tomorrow?

Under account management or in the PS Store, just choose the option to "redeem code" and you'll be set.

Thanks KingShorty! It was telling me it was invalid by doing that and I just found out my buddy doesn't know how to type a few simple letters and numbers.:D

JD

It looks like Gamestop sent out the demo codes today; I received mine around 3:45 pm.

i still didnt get one. hmm. wonder if i missed the boat.

I'm so confused. When does the Euro store get the demo? Thursday? Today? :confused:

I'm so confused. When does the Euro store get the demo? Thursday? Today? :confused:

They get their demos on Thursday as well. Just check during lunch time.

I remember downloading the demos for PES2009 and Smackdown vs RAW 2009 at around midday from the UK store.

So no demo in the US (NA) for non-GS pre-orders? Blows. I know I could create a foreign account, but I just don't want to. LOL

Or is it a timed exclusive for GS pre-orders, with us lowly non pre-orderers able to DL it a few weeks from now or after the game releases? Throw us a bone.

So the UK store gets the demo without having to pre order?

123 main st london uk ftw.

Back of the GS card says "valid 2/5/09-2/26/09"

killzone 3????

Eu gets the demo Thursday. setup an Eu account and get it Thursday.

And when the hell did UK becoming the mecca capital for gaming?

Way to alienate USA, for what will likely amount to 10 more copies of KZ2 being sold across the pond.

What a joke...

And when the hell did UK becoming the mecca capital for gaming?

Way to alienate USA, for what will likely amount to 10 more copies of KZ2 being sold across the pond.

What a joke...

Way to look like the ugly American, dude. Seriously--the game was developed in Amsterdam. It's a European production. Gamestop has the "exclusive" demo rights before the 26th in the US. Thems the breaks. I preordered from Amazon to get "exclusive" Killzone skins and to get the game for $52.

And, if you seriously think this is in any way going to "alienate" the USA, you've really got to be kidding.

The demo will be out on the US Store on Feb 26th--so you can still try the demo before the game comes out. Even if you are too lazy to simply take 5 minutes to create a UK account.

And when the hell did UK becoming the mecca capital for gaming?

Way to alienate USA, for what will likely amount to 10 more copies of KZ2 being sold across the pond.

What a joke...The UK isn't the only country in Europe you know. Plus Killzone 2 was made in Europe and the original Killzone sold better in Europe than it did in the US also.

And when the hell did UK becoming the mecca capital for gaming?

Way to alienate USA, for what will likely amount to 10 more copies of KZ2 being sold across the pond.

What a joke...

I don't know but I know for sure that the UK does not have monopolies like the US does.

In the UK, consumers are allowed to buy a phone and sign up with any provider. In the US, you're tied to the provider from where you bought the phone (unless you know how to hack/jailbreak).

Same is the case with the way GS does business. You're tied to them if you want their exclusives.

I'm just glad that I did not break and go to GS and get pre-order from them.

A joke, it is!

I don't know but I know for sure that the UK does not have monopolies like the US does.

In the UK, consumers are allowed to buy a phone and sign up with any provider. In the US, you're tied to the provider from where you bought the phone (unless you know how to hack/jailbreak).

Same is the case with the way GS does business. You're tied to them if you want their exclusives.

I'm just glad that I did not break and go to GS and get pre-order from them.

A joke, it is!

nothing wrong with gs, imo. at least they'll let you return a game if you hate it. up to a point, that is.

nothing wrong with gs, imo. at least they'll let you return a game if you hate it. up to a point, that is.

You must have some nice GS employees. When I dealt with them, if I opened a game, that was it. If I wanted to return it, it would be under the USED category.

You must have some nice GS employees. When I dealt with them, if I opened a game, that was it. If I wanted to return it, it would be under the USED category.

I believe he was talking about used games, even if he wasn't clear. You've got 7 days to return any used game for any reason here, too.

I believe he was talking about used games, even if he wasn't clear. You've got 7 days to return any used game for any reason here, too.

I see. Still, don't like the way they do business. Hell, I won't even drive their car in Burnout anymore!

I pre-order then call the store a few days later and cancel. Get my demo code and my card never gets charged.

So no demo in the US (NA) for non-GS pre-orders? Blows. I know I could create a foreign account, but I just don't want to. LOL

Or is it a timed exclusive for GS pre-orders, with us lowly non pre-orderers able to DL it a few weeks from now or after the game releases? Throw us a bone.

I believe there will be a US demo the day before launch for everyone. Can't remember where I read that though so I have no link. A UK account only takes a couple minutes to set up if you get impatient.

I believe there will be a US demo the day before launch for everyone. Can't remember where I read that though so I have no link. A UK account only takes a couple minutes to set up if you get impatient.I'm a patient guy. I can wait. :)

Making foreign accounts just seems "unethical" (for lack of a better word) to me for some reason. I am not judging others for doing so, just that if a company doesn't deem me worthy of trying out their game based on where I live, then so be it. I would hate to create Japanese and UK accounts only to have SONY at some point down the line identify my bogus claims and ban my console from online use.

I'm a patient guy. I can wait. :)

Making foreign accounts just seems "unethical" (for lack of a better word) to me for some reason. I am not judging others for doing so, just that if a company doesn't deem me worthy of trying out their game based on where I live, then so be it. I would hate to create Japanese and UK accounts only to have SONY at some point down the line identify my bogus claims and ban my console from online use.

I hope the above was sarcasm.


Their games aren't region locked, so why would the respective PSN's be?

I hope the above was sarcasm.


Their games aren't region locked, so why would the respective PSN's be?

Agreed.

I was going to post the same thing, but you beat me to it.

Not sarcasm at all. Just ignorance on my part. :o Blissful ignorance. :D

EDIT: That being said, I am still not going to jump through hoops, no matter how large and easy those hoops may be for me to jump through, to try something they obviously don't want me to try. I'll wait until the 26th. I'm in no rush to buy the game anyway since I still haven't finished Resistance: Fall of Man and haven't even touched Resistance 2 yet. Too many games...must resist urge.

Not sarcasm at all. Just ignorance on my part. :o Blissful ignorance. :D

EDIT: That being said, I am still not going to jump through hoops, no matter how large and easy those hoops may be for me to jump through, to try something they obviously don't want me to try. I'll wait until the 26th. I'm in no rush to buy the game anyway since I still haven't finished Resistance: Fall of Man and haven't even touched Resistance 2 yet. Too many games...must resist urge.

To each their own, I guess.

If they didn't want you to try it, you wouldn't be able to create the account and download it :confused: It's pretty obvious that they hardly care.

So will the demo be up at midnight for those that have the code?

So will the demo be up at midnight for those that have the code?

I doubt it. It'll be up when the people on the west coast say it's up.

Because the people on the west coast rule everything, apparently!

D/L ing mine now from the malasyian psn......

Ok this a noob question, but how do I create an account for Europe?

Ok this a noob question, but how do I create an account for Europe?

http://www.consolemonster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10663

Or, you can Google "creating UK PSN Account" and find loads of similar websites. The one I posted was the first link on Google.

I used the address of a hotel in London. Pretty easy.

D/L ing mine now from the malasyian psn......

I thought Malaysia didn't have a PS Store?

I thought Malaysia didn't have a PS Store?

They do. As does Singapore (my home town).

So the Killzone demo's up there? Maybe I should create a Malaysian account; I am not patient :p

So the Killzone demo's up there? Maybe I should create a Malaysian account; I am not patient :p

Tez, the game isn't coming out in Asia until the 23rd of April. Why in the world would they get the demo before the US and/or UK?

You Canadians... sometimes I wonder aboot ya'll.

I thought Malaysia didn't have a PS Store?

Are you serious? I would love to download now.........to bad you are teasing us...........

Tez, the game isn't coming out in Asia until the 23rd of April. Why in the world would they get the demo before the US and/or UK?

I dunno. Why in the world would I be following the game's Asian release date?

I dunno. Why in the world would I be following the game's Asian release date?

Because you're aboot to becoom a joornaleest in da gaming world?

No, but seriously. We're about to do our own podcast. You don't know how far it's going to reach around the world.

True enough; but you'll be there to keep me on top of those release dates, yeah?

I created a UK acount just to dl the demo at 12pm tommorrow. I cannot wait until tommorrow evening.

I created a UK acount just to dl the demo at 12pm tommorrow. I cannot wait until tommorrow evening.

So, it will be available at noon then(est). Are we even certain that it will let us download it here from the states?

I think it's hysterical how a game demo makes people go out and make these Euro accounts. Then the ethics of doing so always crops up. lol. Many of us did this day 1 with the PS3 as I have a HK, JP, UK (no Maylasia as that wasn't out at the time). We did it because it was obvious from the get go, that some content is just not available in all the PSN regions at the same time. It's really not a hard thing to do except when trying to register in Japanese. lol. Obviously unless you can provide a valid address with payment info, you will only be able to DL free content. Thats good enough for me. I'll be looking for the demo on the UK account.

I created a UK acount just to dl the demo at 12pm tommorrow. I cannot wait until tommorrow evening.

How do you know it will not be there until noon tomorrow ?

* maybe you just meant you'd be grabbing it at lunch time ;) .

- Jason

How do you know it will not be there until noon tomorrow ?

* maybe you just meant you'd be grabbing it at lunch time ;) .

- Jason

Because I have downloaded demos before from the UK store at the very moment they go live. To date, they have gone live at roughly 12pm (or noon) CST.

Dumb question alert: Are your codes working, or do I have to wait until tomorrow to enter it, then D/L?

Dumb question alert: Are your codes working, or do I have to wait until tomorrow to enter it, then D/L?

I don't have a code (that's no surprise) but you won't be able to download the demo until, and this is pure speculation, the PS Store update goes live.

Because I have downloaded demos before from the UK store at the very moment they go live. To date, they have gone live at roughly 12pm (or noon) CST.

Ah , ok . So west coasters are looking at around 10 AM , sounds good .

Thanks ,
- Jason

can u share the code with 5 different people who r on different systems or is the code for one system ?:confused:

can u share the code with 5 different people who r on different systems or is the code for one system ?:confused:

I don't think this code is shareable (a la SOCOM: Confrontation BETA).

can u share the code with 5 different people who r on different systems or is the code for one system ?:confused:Why would it matter? Set up an EU account, and you don't need to worry.

Impressions:

Graphically, this thing is amazing. Some are going to see it and find problems with it because there are always the naysayers, but it looks pretty cool. It's not as polished as I expected it to be, but my expectations were sky high. It does look amazing though. Best thing I've seen this generation, right alongside Uncharted and Heavenly Sword.

The controls will take some time to get used to. I can see some people switching them up to be closer to a COD4 style of play, but I don't know if that will bring any advantages or not. Even with the sensitivity turned up your look movement feels a bit slow, which adds a bit to the realism factor I guess. This game isn't meant to be played like COD4. It's very apparent from the minute you start. It's all about finding cover and popping out, much like Vegas is. If you do not find and use cover, you will die.

The gun feels good. They feel heavy like they do in SOCOM. Everything has a weight and purpose to it. It's kind of bizarre, really. Even though you're taking part in a war on another planet against weird red-eyed dudes it still feels real in a way. There's a feeling like what you are experiencing could actually be happening. It doesn't seem far-fetched as some other space-themed shooters (Halo or Resistance) do - and I like that.

It's going to be very interesting to see how people play the MP aspect of this game. Knowing that cover is not available in the MP I'm curious to see how the pacing will change. So far what I've seen in the demo screams tactical and slow-paced and I hope that carries over to a degree in the MP even without the option of cover.

That's what I've got so far.

I cannot for the life of me get the right sensativity for the congrols. It's really annoying.

I cannot for the life of me get the right sensativity for the congrols. It's really annoying.

Took me a bit too. I still don't have the hang of it. Everything I've read says that the controls feel cumbersome at first but as you familiarize yourself with them they become very nice. Both Kotaku and IGN pointed that out in their impressions.

I'm digging the AI in this game, both friend and foe. The Helghast do a great job of utilizing cover and blind-firing at you. I also like that you aren't the only bullet sponge on the battlefield. My biggest gripe with Resistance 2 was I always felt like I was the only guy fighting anyone because the Chimera only shot at me. Not so here. And it really helps make you feel like you are part of a bigger story/battle and it's not just about you, which I think is cool.

Well, the demo definitely destroyed any remaining skepticism I had about this game. Fantastic stuff.

Controls: The controls do feel a bit weird, not off, just "weird." I switched the control scheme to "alternate 2" so I could zoom with L1 and melee with R3. I also messed with the sensitivity a bit, but I think I've realized that in this game sensitivity is best kept to a minimum (that's what she said). I think it's designed to be a bit more "solid" feeling. Everything just fits together much better that way (the reloads, the cover system, the movement). Control-wise, it actually reminds me more of Gears than CoD. The main character Sev feels "solid" and "heavy" the way Marcus does.

Graphics: The big star is not the usual texture detail stuff. It's all of the almost imperceptible details and touches in lighting, particle effects, shading tech, etc. This game is all about details. It might look like a typical current-gen FPS, but once you start looking around and paying close attention, you see all kinds of incredible details.

Physics: This is the really technical centerpiece IMO. In my handful of playthroughs of the demo, everything reacted and moved in a believable way. I've gotten used to the really exaggerated physics of most Havok engine games, but Killzone 2 shows that it doesn't have to be all cartoony, high flying antics (though there is still some during the explosions). Lots of subtle touches as well as some fantastic, dramatic animation flourishes. I've been having lots of fun with the physics, shooting objects out of the way to get a good line on a headshot.

AI: Hard to tell from the demo how the AI holds up overall. Not enough situations so far. But I am impressed on how enemies will try to flank sneakily using cover. They also seem aware of your location in a reasonable way. Friendly AI has done some stupid ****, though, in the demo. Typical Gears-like running balls out toward a group of three enemies without cover. :rolleyes:

Can't wait to see how multiplayer goes!

Not that impressed , maybe this is an older build ?

Graphics are not nearly as polished as I was expecting and I have seen many stutters ( not saying it's bad here , just that I was expecting more ;) ) .

Control is strange , don't like the feel (too slow and I feel like I am floating) .

Demo is ultra short :( .

No longer a day one purchase for me unless the final build is superior to this demo .

- Jason

I couldn't make it past the opening part when Rico tells you to blow the bridge. I feel physically sick; if it wasn't the bobbing and twitching of the menus, it was something about the motion that made me feel weird. Never happened to me before with a video game.

Not that impressed , maybe this is an older build ?

Graphics are not nearly as polished as I was expecting and I have seen many stutters ( not saying it's bad here , just that I was expecting more ;) ) .

Control is strange , don't like the feel (too slow and I feel like I am floating) .

Demo is ultra short :( .

No longer a day one purchase for me unless the final build is superior to this demo .

- Jason

Why does this not surprise me?

Impressions:

Graphically, this thing is amazing. Some are going to see it and find problems with it because there are always the naysayers, but it looks pretty cool. It's not as polished as I expected it to be, but my expectations were sky high. It does look amazing though. Best thing I've seen this generation, right alongside Uncharted and Heavenly Sword.

The controls will take some time to get used to. I can see some people switching them up to be closer to a COD4 style of play, but I don't know if that will bring any advantages or not. Even with the sensitivity turned up your look movement feels a bit slow, which adds a bit to the realism factor I guess. This game isn't meant to be played like COD4. It's very apparent from the minute you start. It's all about finding cover and popping out, much like Vegas is. If you do not find and use cover, you will die.

The gun feels good. They feel heavy like they do in SOCOM. Everything has a weight and purpose to it. It's kind of bizarre, really. Even though you're taking part in a war on another planet against weird red-eyed dudes it still feels real in a way. There's a feeling like what you are experiencing could actually be happening. It doesn't seem far-fetched as some other space-themed shooters (Halo or Resistance) do - and I like that.

It's going to be very interesting to see how people play the MP aspect of this game. Knowing that cover is not available in the MP I'm curious to see how the pacing will change. So far what I've seen in the demo screams tactical and slow-paced and I hope that carries over to a degree in the MP even without the option of cover.

That's what I've got so far.

Took me a bit too. I still don't have the hang of it. Everything I've read says that the controls feel cumbersome at first but as you familiarize yourself with them they become very nice. Both Kotaku and IGN pointed that out in their impressions.

I'm digging the AI in this game, both friend and foe. The Helghast do a great job of utilizing cover and blind-firing at you. I also like that you aren't the only bullet sponge on the battlefield. My biggest gripe with Resistance 2 was I always felt like I was the only guy fighting anyone because the Chimera only shot at me. Not so here. And it really helps make you feel like you are part of a bigger story/battle and it's not just about you, which I think is cool.



Sounding better and better. That was one of my biggest gripes with W@W, bad AI and being the only guy the AI can see and or care about.

Yeah there is a very strange character movement (float) going on here , and the lighting effects add to the odd feel at times , it made me a little nauseated as well .

- Jason

Not that impressed , maybe this is an older build ?

Graphics are not nearly as polished as I was expecting and I have seen many stutters ( not saying it's bad here , just that I was expecting more ;) ) .

Control is strange , don't like the feel (too slow and I feel like I am floating) .

Demo is ultra short :( .

No longer a day one purchase for me unless the final build is superior to this demo .

- JasonYou seriously are the pickiest gamer ever. :D

My first time through, I was thinking the same thing: is this it?

But I played through it a few more times and started noticing a lot of the little things (physics effects, particle effects, sound effects, ships whirring by overhead, lighting effects in that warehouse area, and so on). I think the heart of this game is in those details.

Big-picture-wise, this game looks totally generic, but on the smaller scale details, it's really damned impressive.

Why does this not surprise me?

Oh come on ... let's not go there . I have a right to express my opinion on the demo just as much as anybody else and I have been awaiting this game with great enthusiasm .

- Jason

You seriously are the pickiest gamer ever. :D

My first time through, I was thinking the same thing: is this it?

But I played through it a few more times and started noticing a lot of the little things (physics effects, particle effects, sound effects, ships whirring by overhead, lighting effects in that warehouse area, and so on). I think the heart of this game is in those details.

Big-picture-wise, this game looks totally generic, but on the smaller scale details, it's really damned impressive.

Yeah I am picky as hell , never denied that ;) .

I agree the little details are there but that does not make the game for me , I am still holding hope that the final build will be superior ( maybe it already is and we just don't know it yet based upon the demo :) ) .

I am still going to play the heck out of the demo , no doubt about it (wish there was a little MP in there though) .

- Jason

Oh come on ... let's not go there . I have a right to express my opinion on the demo just as much as anybody else and I have been awaiting this game with great enthusiasm .

- Jason

Part of it might just be the immersion possible in such a short demo. I wonder if you would have been more impressed if the demo were simply longer.

Does the demo go right to the level, or is there some of the opening exposition?

Demo is ultra short :(

Well there's a perfectly valid reason to not buy the full game then :D

I don't understand your problem with the graphics; you were expecting more? There have been videos and screenshots flying around the web for months, there should be no surprises as far as the visuals are concerned. Unless you are one of the people that went on a "media blackout" to prevent getting your expectations too high, in which case this is pretty ironic :p

You seriously are the pickiest gamer ever. :D

Hey, thought that was my title ;)

On a serious note, did anyone find what the one reviewer was talking about? A very low point of view as if "you're starting into your compatriots nipples".

My guess is it was exaggeration, but does it fell like the perspective is good and they got it right?

To the person above who got dizzy, it might be the FOV the game is set at. I know some people have issues with certain FOV's for some reason, at least with PC games.

Hey, thought that was my title ;)

On a serious note, did anyone find what the one reviewer was talking about? A very low point of view as if "you're starting into your compatriots nipples".

My guess is it was exaggeration, but does it fell like the perspective is good and they got it right?

To the person above who got dizzy, it might be the FOV the game is set at. I know some people have issues with certain FOV's for some reason, at least with PC games.

It is a bit of an exaggeration but you do feel like you are resting a bit low, especially when you first start out. I kept trying to stand up as I thought I was crouching. Once you get into it and get going, you don't really give it a second thought.

Part of it might just be the immersion possible in such a short demo. I wonder if you would have been more impressed if the demo were simply longer.

Does the demo go right to the level, or is there some of the opening exposition?

It goes right into a level after a very short intro , certainly the immersion could have been better with a longer demo , no doubt there .

- Jason

Well there's a perfectly valid reason to not buy the full game then :D

I don't understand your problem with the graphics; you were expecting more? There have been videos and screenshots flying around the web for months, there should be no surprises as far as the visuals are concerned. Unless you are one of the people that went on a "media blackout" to prevent getting your expectations too high, in which case this is pretty ironic :p

Now where did I say the demo being short was a reason to not buy the game , come on . I was just saying it is a very short demo , is that not allowed without somebody trying to twist into something else .

Some of the videos that I watched actually are more impressive than the demo so I am thinking the demo is probably an older build (???) .

- Jason

Let's not go there? Dude, you're the one who takes it there every time when you post crap like you do. Let's be serious. You run around crying and whining that people are picking on you in another thread and then you go and post something like "I was expecting more polish on the graphics"?

How much more exactly? There's been so much media saturation on this game since the trailer in '05 that you can't really expect me to believe this is the first time you've seen in-game footage in HD and that the results are surprising to you.

You're a first class tool, dude, and there's not a person left on this forum who doesn't know it. Your reputation precedes you and your "impressions" post is a perfect example.

I see , you are making it personal now because you have a problem with me . I'll say this one time , Stop your childish behavior and insults !

- Jason

I personally thought when I played the beta MP that the weight and movement were spot on. I think all the others had it wrong (yes u COD)

It is a bit of an exaggeration but you do feel like you are resting a bit low, especially when you first start out. I kept trying to stand up as I thought I was crouching. Once you get into it and get going, you don't really give it a second thought.

More good news. The guy seemed to rest his entire opinion on this one small thing, which to me is pretty lame if the game does everything else right.

In before the lock

Is the float as bad as the Fear2 demo? Dammit why does COD4 have the be the best shooter ever and theres so much wrong with it?

Theres no cover in MP I didnt see that. Im glad...as its called a shooter and not a hider :)

Now where did I say the demo being short was a reason to not buy the game , come on . I was just saying it is a very short demo , is that not allowed without somebody trying to twist into something else .

Dude, I was just poking fun (hence the smiley face?); chill.

As for the demo being an older build, I dunno; I'm almost done downloading it, so I guess we'll see how it compares to the various 720p final-build videos I've got on the compy.

in before the inevitable lock.

can't wait to play the demo tonight

123 main st london uk ftw.

I live there too!

the lock is coming...

I live there too!

Oh, you're in London, eh? I just put UKTOWN, UK 90210

I see , you are making it personal now because you have a problem with me . I'll say this one time , Stop your childish behavior and insults !

- Jason

Since when is calling it like it is childish?

instantpop,

Just let it go. We all know that DGP is picky and has caused a lot of grief with his "words" to the point people have been suspended and banned. I wouldn't want to see that happen to you.

PS
I have yet to play the demo, 89% downloaded at the moment, but if what you've commented on is true, then I'll be playing the crap out of it! Thanks for the insightful comments!

Is the float as bad as the Fear2 demo? Dammit why does COD4 have the be the best shooter ever and theres so much wrong with it?

Theres no cover in MP I didnt see that. Im glad...as its called a shooter and not a hider :)

I can't compare to the Fear 2 demo because I haven't played it. If I were to compare the "float" to anything, it'd be most like Battlefield Bad Company. Just a little bounce to the step and some physics applied to it. To me that's not floating. Floating is what you do in COD4 because you just glide everywhere you go. I think most people have the definition backward.

I can't compare to the Fear 2 demo because I haven't played it. If I were to compare the "float" to anything, it'd be most like Battlefield Bad Company. Just a little bounce to the step and some physics applied to it. To me that's not floating. Floating is what you do in COD4 because you just glide everywhere you go. I think most people have the definition backward.

I'm hearing lots of good things about FEAR 2. I dunno if I'll have the time to invest in yet another shooter. Especially with the beast that is KZ2.

In before the lock!

This thing is taking forever to download. It's been downloading for 45 minutes and I'm at 9%!!!!!!! WTF?

In before the lock!

This thing is taking forever to download.

Agreed.

I've been downloading for 5 hours now. It doesn't help that I'm simultaneously downloading other things too. :D

In before the lock!

This thing is taking forever to download. It's been downloading for 45 minutes and I'm at 9%!!!!!!! WTF?

Server must be getting slammed by now. I downloaded at 11:00 AM CST today and it took less than 20 minutes.

Server must be getting slammed by now. I downloaded at 11:00 AM CST today and it took less than 20 minutes.

How many times have you gone through the demo?

It's never taken this long to DL something before. Even the MGO beta went faster than this one is going and you all remember what an abortion that was.

90% done at 1 hour....:p

..but I'm downloading it through the NA Store(gamestop code).

It's never taken this long to DL something before. Even the MGO beta went faster than this one is going and you all remember what an abortion that was.

True.

93% done!

took me only about 45 minutes to download this morning. too bad I can't play it until tonight after work. :(

How many times have you gone through the demo?

Twice so far. The second time I went through I just wanted to try out all the different weapons scattered around. There are three different things to try, though you can stick with what you start out with for the duration and be fine. The standard issue rifle is what most people are going to use for this game I think.

I also spent a good amount of time just shooting at random things to see what would be considered interactive. Pretty much everything. Boxes, gas cans, propane tanks - they all take bullets and if they should explode, they explode.

The only complaint I've had so far is at the very end. I'll put it in a spoiler tag just to be safe.

Your partner is hacking a control box and the only way he'll ever finish it is if you kill all the Helghast in the room. I didn't expect that and I don't like that kind of triggering system. There should be a set amount of time for him to hack it and you have to survive. That's my only gripe so far.

12% yeah!!!!!!

Twice so far. The second time I went through I just wanted to try out all the different weapons scattered around. There are three different things to try, though you can stick with what you start out with for the duration and be fine. The standard issue rifle is what most people are going to use for this game I think.

I also spent a good amount of time just shooting at random things to see what would be considered interactive. Pretty much everything. Boxes, gas cans, propane tanks - they all take bullets and if they should explode, they explode.

The only complaint I've had so far is at the very end. I'll put it in a spoiler tag just to be safe.

Your partner is hacking a control box and the only way he'll ever finish it is if you kill all the Helghast in the room. I didn't expect that and I don't like that kind of triggering system. There should be a set amount of time for him to hack it and you have to survive. That's my only gripe so far.

I can see that becoming a frustration. Seems like more of a CoD thing, especially in W@W, where things were only triggered by you doing a certain thing.

Let's hope there's not too much of that in the full game.

96%. Come on, come on!

i can't put aim and fire on the l2 and r2 buttons. fail. where the **** are custom controls. imo, that's game design 101.

aside from that, and the midget perspective (you may get used to it, but it's definitely there), this game is awesome. i only wish the demo was longer. 2 level demo. pfft. that felt like a 1/4 of a level to me.

I also spent a good amount of time just shooting at random things to see what would be considered interactive. Pretty much everything. Boxes, gas cans, propane tanks - they all take bullets and if they should explode, they explode.Yeah, this was fun. After you clear the final room, don't go through that last door. Run around and shoot things. Every surface and object type reacts differently. Also, try shooting from different areas. Sound effects from your weapon discharge change drastically depending on where you're standing. Love the emptying clip sound, too. The whole "feeling" of this game is just... right.

Played through the demo about 5 or 6 more times and while the control does start to get more familiar it does not take away the odd float sensation (at least not for me) . Some say they get a solid feel to the movement/weapons but I don't get that at all ? Maybe I need to play with audio up a bit louder so I actually feel the impacts , maybe that will help with the immersion level .

- Jason

i can't put aim and fire on the l2 and r2 buttons. fail. where the **** are custom controls. imo, that's game design 101.

aside from that, and the midget perspective (you may get used to it, but it's definitely there), this game is awesome. i only wish the demo was longer. 2 level demo. pfft. that felt like a 1/4 of a level to me.

This is also a DEMO... so hang in there, there might be more customization for controls in the full game.

It took me around six hours to DL the RE5 demo the other night, so I don't even want to imagine how long this one will take.

98%.....

I can't compare to the Fear 2 demo because I haven't played it. If I were to compare the "float" to anything, it'd be most like Battlefield Bad Company. Just a little bounce to the step and some physics applied to it. To me that's not floating. Floating is what you do in COD4 because you just glide everywhere you go. I think most people have the definition backward.


I wouldnt call COD floaty. By floaty I mean, I see the gun moving as if Im walking or running with it, but its as if I have no legs. With COD it felt as if my strides were always right on time and it took me the correct amount of time to get somewhere. With other shooters, Fear2 being the best example recently, it just feels like I have an upper body and the lower half is just...well..floating. I guess it has more to do with proportion than anything else.

Guys, keep this thread clean or you will be removed from it. I won't lock it, you'll just be sent packing.

Kyser

Shocking that it is taking so long to DL for some of you , although I admit I was shocked that it downloaded and installed within about 15 minutes considering I did not start my DL until after 11am pacific time (I figured the servers would be slammed) .

Audio being up somewhat loud makes a nice difference , more immersive :D .

- Jason

About 50 minutes to download and install. I switched to Standard 2 for controls, it gives me fire on R2 which I like, sadly none of the options allowed R2 for fire and L2 for zoom.

This is also a DEMO... so hang in there, there might be more customization for controls in the full game.

true. plus, they could always patch it in later.

I love the verbal reactions of the Helghast. I also noticed that your squad mates say varying things on subsequent playthoughs.

.sik

So who else is getting the "CoD in space" vibe?

And I have not seen this much blood since "Way of the Warrior" :)

i dont like the R3 button for zooming in. other then that. the demo is awesome. first FPS game i played were you really felt you were i a warzone. i agree with the revieuws out there that voice acting sucks. however the audio of the bullets and explosions are top notch.

also i shot i enemy on the head. his helmet flew off and he was checking with his hand on his hand. if it was still stuck on his head. then after he saw it was not there he ducked away. in 1 word. awesome.

this is also the first time i play a game were it feels your playing a next generation shooter.

needless to say. so far i am very impressed. the only nitpicking i have at the moment are the controls.

also when you start the game the x and y movement is sluggish. however in the options you can change that speed. after fixing that it was more natural for me.

so all in all my only complainment is the R3 button. i wish i could change that to a different button.

i wonder if this will be possible in the final game.

25 min and only 13%...

cant finish soon enough.

So who else is getting the "CoD in space" vibe?

The chaos to me is comparable to how I felt when I played through The Bog on COD4 for the first time in the campaign. However, I like the controls and the "feeling" better than COD by a long shot, just like I preferred Bad Company's controls and "feeling" over COD.

In many ways, COD feels to me like a twitch shooter like Halo or Unreal. You aren't forced to do anything tactical if you don't want to, which is fine if you're into that sort of thing. But I've played far too many games of COD4 where everyone just runs out and it's whoever guesses the location of the other team first that wins the firefight. Personally, that style of play isn't for me - at least not all the time. The idea of having classes and instituting some strategy to survive is more up my alley.

I think the controls in KZ2 force a more tactical style of play. Granted, people will adapt and be able to aim and fire quickly, but the learning curve will be a bit steeper, I think.

22% after 4 min. I don't know whats up with the servers or your ISP's guys, but it's flying for me. Only problem for me is my HDD is almost full :/

Much anticipation.

i dont like the R3 button for zooming in. other then that. the demo is awesome. first FPS game i played were you really felt you were i a warzone. i agree with the revieuws out there that voice acting sucks. however the audio of the bullets and explosions are top notch.

also i shot i enemy on the head. his helmet flew off and he was checking with his hand on his hand. if it was still stuck on his head. then after he saw it was not there he ducked away. in 1 word. awesome.

this is also the first time i play a game were it feels your playing a next generation shooter.

needless to say. so far i am very impressed. the only nitpicking i have at the moment are the controls.

also when you start the game the x and y movement is sluggish. however in the options you can change that speed. after fixing that it was more natural for me.

so all in all my only complainment is the R3 button. i wish i could change that to a different button.

i wonder if this will be possible in the final game.

You can change that in the demo. Some have talked about mapping it just like COD4 controls.

Anything's possible but I think the 6 control options are all that will be in the final game. Seems like most people that have been playing it for a while recommend sticking to the default controls and sensitivity.

22% after 4 min. I don't know whats up with the servers or your ISP's guys, but it's flying for me. Only problem for me is my HDD is almost full :/

Much anticipation.

Same here. I started the download and went to feed the animals and I was already at 19% in that short time. I'm about 40% now in about 10 minutes.


EDIT: 320 GB HD FTW. :D

EDIT: 320 GB HD FTW. :D

:o

Great demo... controls fine... can't wait for the game to release so I can play me some MP.

And a note: There is a third rifle in the demo... in the warehouse there is a guy on the roof and you have to get him close to the edge (throw grenades behind him)... if you do it right you will knock him off the roof and kill him... his rifle is a semi auto rifle that can literally blow peoples heads off... pretty awesome.

Playing with Alternative 2 was pretty comfortable. The play and aim mechanics need getting used too though, cause I sucked trying to shoot them. Not a fan of the blur effect while turning, but it doesn't look too bad. Its a very gritty and "dirty" game. Fits the game very well.

So those those that have it... have you taken a look at your gun when in cover?

Damn, what a gorgeous demo.

That handgun is my new favorite gun!

Also, love the oxygen tanks that you can shoot and then watch them fly around before exploding!

The demo in a nutshell: Short but beautiful.

WOW, I just checked and I'm at 31% and I have a wired connection? :confused::eek: It's been an hour and a half.

From the PS Blog

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/3256275876_6f44d179d2.jpg

They will be releasing info on how to get one of those. It's not a render, it's a replica!

The play and aim mechanics need getting used too

agreed. other than that the game is pretty gorgeous.

13% in about 10 minutes...moving quickly so far

Mine took over an hour also

i dont like the R3 button for zooming in.Switch to "alternate 2." Go to control setups, select the one to the left of the default setup. It will switch the R3 and L1 buttons. Now L1 will zoom and R3 will melee. Simple!

Also, I don't like the sticky zoom, so I tick that in the control options also.

So who else is getting the "CoD in space" vibe?The opening cinematic looks like just about every other WWII game when you're in the boats moving onto the beaches of Normandy. But, you know, in space.

Switch to "alternate 2." Go to control setups, select the one to the left of the default setup. It will switch the R3 and L1 buttons. Now L1 will zoom and R3 will melee. Simple!

Also, I don't like the sticky zoom, so I tick that in the control options also.

The opening cinematic looks like just about every other WWII game when you're in the boats moving onto the beaches of Normandy. But, you know, in space.

Ah, cool. Alternate 2 it is for me, too.

Is Alternate 2 more like COD4 , can't try it right now as my son is using the PS3 ?

I did adjust the X-Y sensitivity as suggested and that helps , the feel is better now .

I still don't find the graphics all that amazing , I was expecting to be blown away seeing the real deal in person based on the reviews . It looks great but I have not paused and thought OMG look at that as of yet (maybe the level in the demo is just bland as it sounds like there are levels that look stunning) .

- Jason

I adjusted the sensativity to 75% and it feels just like Far Cry 2 now, so its working for me.

It looks great but I have not paused and thought OMG look at that as of yet (maybe the level in the demo is just bland as it sounds like there are levels that look stunning) .

- Jason

My god man what are you thinking???

/runs as far away from DGP before the nukes start to land...

What type of display are you using Frank ?

Sorry for being honest , I was expecting to be be blown away since people were calling it the best looking game on any console to date . I am not saying something else looks better I was just expecting to be in awe of it (my fault for expecting too much obviously) .

- Jason

What type of display are you using Frank ?

- Jason

50" 768P plasma. I have not brought it back to the HT to see it truly LARGE yet. I think the Plasma will do the game more justice as the lighting quality will shine more on that than my LCD projector. (I prefer an LCD's look for movies)

I'm not blown away by the graphics because of seeing so many videos, but I'll grant that it's probably the best looking fps this generation. not by a wide margin, but it looks quite good.

50" 768P plasma. I have not brought it back to the HT to see it truly LARGE yet. I think the Plasma will do the game more justice as the lighting quality will shine more on that than my LCD projector. (I prefer an LCD's look for movies)

Ah , I think I need to get it going on my projector or HDtv to truly judge then . I figured playing it on a nice 24" 1080p (with 2ms response) display would give solid results , maybe it's a scaling issue with this particular game , is anybody else running it at 1080p ?

- Jason

What type of display are you using Frank ?

Sorry for being honest , I was expecting to be be blown away since people were calling it the best looking game on any console to date . I am not saying something else looks better I was just expecting to be in awe of it (my fault for expecting too much obviously) .

- Jason

Agree with you, textures aren't that impressive to me. The lighting on the other hand looks killer.

Is Alternate 2 more like COD4 , can't try it right now as my son is using the PS3 ?

I did adjust the X-Y sensitivity as suggested and that helps , the feel is better now .

I still don't find the graphics all that amazing , I was expecting to be blown away seeing the real deal in person based on the reviews . It looks great but I have not paused and thought OMG look at that as of yet (maybe the level in the demo is just bland as it sounds like there are levels that look stunning) .

- Jason

You want to be "blown away by seeing the real deal", join the military. Best graphics you'll ever find. Trust me, I know!

In the end, this is a game. No matter how close to the real thing, it's still a game so it's no where near where you've set your expectations from all that you've read.

Looks good so far. Playing it on a 50" 5080HD Pioneer. I must say I am a 360 guy and this is my first week with a PS3.

Graphics=9.1
Controls=7.5
Voice=2
AI=7.8

Should I get the dualshock 2 controller because this sixaxis feels like it will float away it is so light....will that help me with the controls in this game?

Please don't flame me because I am a nub...we have opinions to;)

I'm not blown away by the graphics because of seeing so many videos, but I'll grant that it's probably the best looking fps this generation. not by a wide margin, but it looks quite good.

Yeah it looks great as I said and it probably is the best over-all looking FPS to date on any console (although we might be blown away at the final product , which is what I am hoping for) .

- Jason

Should I get the dualshock 2 controller because this sixaxis feels like it will float away it is so light....will that help me with the controls in this game?

Help make them actually better no, but I find I really prefer the weight the DS adds. I paid $75 for mine from Japan and do not regret it a bit.

You want to be "blown away by seeing the real deal", join the military. Best graphics you'll ever find. Trust me, I know!

In the end, this is a game. No matter how close to the real thing, it's still a game so it's no where near where you've set your expectations from all that you've read.

You've taken my 'real deal' comment totally out of context ( which seems to happen to me a lot here in the playstation forum :confused: ) . I simply meant the real game vs. looking at pics or cam-corded video ;) . Trust me when I tell you that I have also seen the 'real deal' (been there done that too) and have no desire for games to look totally real .

- Jason

You've taken my 'real deal' comment totally out of context ( which seems to happen to me a lot here in the playstation forum :confused: ) . I simply meant the real game vs. looking at pics or cam-corded video ;) . Trust me when I tell you that I have also seen the 'real deal' (been there done that too) and have no desire for games to look totally real .

- Jason

Seems like that's the only way you're going to be fully "blown away"

.sik

Seems like that's the only way you're going to be fully "blown away"

.sik

LOL , ok :confused: .

- Jason

I am blown away by the lighting. And the chars shadow is pretty amazing too. Wife is trying to read os I have the sound down, cannot comment on its quality.

The lighting is impressive , some of the best that I have seen (even compares well against some PC games) . The audio is done very well , maybe not the best that I have heard but it's very good .

- Jason

The weapon graphics are very good. Better than GoW2. Lighting is very impressive as well as the colors. The demo is so short though wish I could have about 10-15 more minutes with it.

The weapon graphics are very good.

Please go into cover, look at your weapon and report back.

Try shooting at a guy up close. The light from the machine gun casts a shadow of him behind him. Haven't seen that in a game yet, even on the PC.

you guys are something else. its a ****ING DEMO wtf

1 when i played uncharted demo it was meh. it dropped you into a little section of the game and i thought this game is average at best. full game is unreal maybe best game on ps3

2 motor storm pac rift that demo was bad. i thought wow this is worst that the first MS. real game is the best action racing game with best graphics on any system.

3 i played the re5 demo and thought it was rubbish deleted it off the HD. bet the game gets higher scores the KZ2.

4 i don't like shooters or any fps game. the KZ2 demo was fun. controls were good. zipped right thru. but i know this will be nothing like the real experience of playing the full game.

just wait. i don't think even those skeptics out there will be disappointed when the full game hits
psn acelightning15


give it time

The lighting is impressive , some of the best that I have seen (even compares well against some PC games) . The audio is done very well , maybe not the best that I have heard but it's very good .

- Jason

I just don't get it??? You say this game isn't that great but you keep saying this is the best I have heard, seen, etc......does it suck or doesn't it.

Have you got to your HT to play? Did it make you change your mind...????

I have never seen someone post one thing and then say something else within the same page that totally contradicts what you said in the first place so many times in one thread. I swear if I didn't see you on these forums regularly I would say you were a XBOT Troll. :confused:

On another note...I've been downloading this game since just before 4pm and it's now almost 7pm...so for 3 hours. My download is currently at 54%. :eek::mad:

BTW those that have 1080p sets reset the ps3 to force KZ2 to 1080p. hows it look.

also i have a onyko 606 with 7.1 but only using 5.1 speaker system set up.if i leave ps3 on auto its outputting 7.1 lpcm. am i losing 2 channels. should i force the ps3 to out put either 5.1dts or 5.1 lpcm

This game has the best graphics in any FPS I've ever seen! Probably the best lighting too.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not blown away by the visuals. I was expecting more than the best visuals I've seen. *yawn*

ya'll give DGP a break, i think what he means is we have heard for 2 years how it is clearly the best looking game ever....and it is close.
but i cannot say for certain that it is graphically head and shoulders above uncharted or mgs4. at least the only things close in my eyes are ps3 exclusives.
very, very cool game. i cant wait until the 27th. i have already played the demo 3 times.
graphics are awesome, gameplay takes a sec, but once used to it, it is awesome. and the guns sound real! for a gun nut like me, that is wicked.

I'm a patient guy. I can wait. :)

Making foreign accounts just seems "unethical" (for lack of a better word) to me for some reason.

Canada has the Queen if England on our money, and she is still recognized as the head of state, so i have no moral issues with claiming a UK account.

Considering that Canada is worse off than the US when it comes to KZ (i.e, we can't pre order from amazon, or Game Stop and get those bonuses) so...

In other news, i find the game rather .. slow.. the AI rather .. slow.. and the action rather slow..

At least the enemies acknowledge that you are not an army of one... and that there are 12 other people for them to shoot at while you pick them of one by one.

fuseman ,

My first impressions have changed slightly due to some control tweaking but my initial impressions were very similar to several others that posted theirs if you read it . I mentioned some of the exact same things ( it's just that I am always the guy that gets singled out for his opinions even when others say basically the same things ) . Maybe I am too blunt , but that is just me , I don't beat around the bush I just give my honest opinion :) .

I don't base my over all impression on graphics and sound , the majority of my basis is gameplay and control is a huge part of that obviously .

I would probably not have anybody here in the playstation forum saying a word regarding my opinion if I proclaimed KZ2 to be the best game ever made , sad but true .

I appreciate the way you questioned my opinion , there is nothing wrong with that and we all have a right to change our opinions beyond first impressions ;) .

Yes I have now played it on my HT system and it is better than my initial impressions other than the control still feels floaty to me , graphics still do not blow me away but yes they are done very well (as is the audio) .

Please no more posts about me or my opinions , it does not matter , let's all just get along and discuss this demo like adults .

Thanks ,
- Jason

ya'll give DGP a break, i think what he means is we have heard for 2 years how it is clearly the best looking game ever....and it is close.
but i cannot say for certain that it is graphically head and shoulders above uncharted or mgs4. at least the only things close in my eyes are ps3 exclusives.
very, very cool game. i cant wait until the 27th. i have already played the demo 3 times.
graphics are awesome, gameplay takes a sec, but once used to it, it is awesome. and the guns sound real! for a gun nut like me, that is wicked.

Nah, your boy just likes the controversy. Those games you mention are definitely top tier graphics wise, but from what I've seen on KZ2 so far the attention to detail is unparalleled. He must be trying to compare it to Wall-E on bluray.

I'll be downloading the demo tonight, can't wait.

Downloaded and played...this game is going to rock. The controls are going to take some getting used to...but no different then any other game.

As far as demo's go, this is the best one I have ever played...graphics, sound...everything...very impressive.

If this demo isn't doing anything for you, it's probably time to dedicate your ps3 to blu ray duties only and move on...

ya'll give DGP a break, i think what he means is we have heard for 2 years how it is clearly the best looking game ever....and it is close.
but i cannot say for certain that it is graphically head and shoulders above uncharted or mgs4. at least the only things close in my eyes are ps3 exclusives.
very, very cool game. i cant wait until the 27th. i have already played the demo 3 times.
graphics are awesome, gameplay takes a sec, but once used to it, it is awesome. and the guns sound real! for a gun nut like me, that is wicked.

Exactly 2 of the games that came to mind when I was playing it for the first time ;) .

- Jason

fuseman ,

My first impressions have changed slightly due to some control tweaking but my initial impressions were very similar to several others that posted theirs if you read it . I mentioned some of the exact same things ( it's just that I am always the guy that gets singled out for his opinions even when others say basically the same things ) . Maybe I am too blunt , but that is just me , I don't beat around the bush I just give my honest opinion :) .

I don't base my over all impression on graphics and sound , the majority of my basis is gameplay and control is a huge part of that obviously .

I would probably not have anybody here in the playstation forum saying a word regarding my opinion if I proclaimed KZ2 to be the best game ever made , sad but true .

I appreciate the way you questioned my opinion , there is nothing wrong with that and we all have a right to change our opinions beyond first impressions ;) .

Yes I have now played it on my HT system and it is better than my initial impressions other than the control still feels floaty to me , graphics still do not blow me away but yes they are done very well (as is the audio) .

Please no more posts about me or my opinions , it does not matter , let's all just get along and discuss this demo like adults .

Thanks ,
- Jason


You've been around long enough to know you can't have an opinion. Don't bring it to these forums anymore. :)

One month of SOCOM left for me if the MP can hold up.

Nah, your boy just likes the controversy. Those games you mention are definitely top tier graphics wise, but from what I've seen on KZ2 so far the attention to detail is unparalleled. He must be trying to compare it to Wall-E on bluray.

I'll be downloading the demo tonight, can't wait.

IMD...you won't be disappointed. Word of caution...if you have little ones around, either cover their ears or mute the sound. The language is pretty harsh...

awesome looking game, i am disappointed by the sluggish feeling controls, i guess i have been spoiled by the COD4 tight controls. I hope they improve the controls, everything else is great.

So has anyone figured out the 0/3 0/2 mean when you play through a second time.

When you go to campaign hit choose level and it gives you the choice of which to pick but also lists your best time and number of deaths. In the top right of this screen are 2 symbols with 0/3 and 0/2.

Any ideas:confused:

I just downloaded and played a little. So far, I am liking it. It sounds really nice in 7.1 also. And do watch out for the language with the kids around..it is pretty bad, like kekborg has stated.

What type of display are you using Frank ?

Sorry for being honest , I was expecting to be be blown away since people were calling it the best looking game on any console to date . I am not saying something else looks better I was just expecting to be in awe of it (my fault for expecting too much obviously) .

- Jason

Well to be fair the demo is of a warehouse and a water discharge area. Nothing too special there. It's not the desert, the heart of the city, or anything that would be eye candy. It's just there to give you a feel of the game and controls. They're rightfully saving the best eye candy for those who purchase.

They didn't even give us the awe jaw dropping intro.

As for the AI, seems like it's very good. They actually care about staying alive somewhat! This is no COD SP, that's for sure, although I haven't seen them in nearly the war like numbers that W@W would throw at you.

Love the feeling too, you really do feel like a marine weighted down with ammo, supply, and fear. Gonna take some getting used to the aiming after COD's, but it's fine and responsive. Alt 2 is set up exactly like COD, which is great, but it makes it very hard to use the cover system that looks like it will be mandatory in anything but easy.

Please no more posts about me or my opinions , it does not matter , let's all just get along and discuss this demo like adults .

Thanks ,
- Jason
Wait, so I can't ask you a question? How about I say to you "dont' post your opinions and I won't ask you anymore questions....?????!!!!!"
It wasn't like I was attacking you. :confused:

This is an open forum...if you don't want people to interject then don't post or anything here. You're not my boss, wife, mom, or dad so I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to tell me what I can and can't do...please! I'm sure those are the kinds of things that have made all these other people upset at you over the last few weeks....just a word of advice and my $.02.

Sheesh ... once again out of context because some of you are still on that bandwagon .

I simply meant leave my opinions out of this discussion from here on out since it seems to be creating issues for some people that I have an opinion on a playstation game that is not 100% positive , therefore I must be an Xbot ... right !

I was not telling you what to do , I was asking for people to simply stop making the thread about my opinions and have a reasonable discussion , that should have been pretty obvious from the way it is worded .

What is it going to take for some of you to just move along and realize you are only bringing yourselves down ???

- Jason

You've been around long enough to know you can't have an opinion. Don't bring it to these forums anymore. :)


Sadly , that appears to be what it has come down to .

- Jason

What type of display are you using Frank ?

Sorry for being honest , I was expecting to be be blown away since people were calling it the best looking game on any console to date . I am not saying something else looks better I was just expecting to be in awe of it (my fault for expecting too much obviously) .

- Jason

I kinda feel the same way. I think the strength of the KZ2 graphics is that there aren't really any flaws, but for the (admittedly very brief) time I played it I didn't really get the 'jaw dropped in awe' feeling (as an example, I got that 'awe' feeling when looking out at the horizon in MS:PR, or at certain points in Far Cry 2), just an appreciation for how technically great everything looked.

MrXpress ,

Yes , that's a good way to put it :) . I don't think anybody could call the graphics flawed other than a few stutters here and there , but again it is a demo .

- Jason

Again, I wasn't attacking or being rude to you....at all. I quoted something directly from a reply directed to me and I said "if I didn't see you on this forum so much I would think you were in fact an Xbot" becuase of the way you were bouncing back and forth like a ping pong on your opinion (that was a summary of what I was trying to say). I just simply asked you to clarify which you did and things would have stayed that way if you wouldn't have then proceeded to tell me not to ask you any more questions....what have I ever done to you to deserve you lashing out at me?
As I said in my last post...if you don't want people questioning your opinion...KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!!!! Sheesh! I was just trying to give you some advice on how you are rubbing people the wrong way...apparently you can give constructive criticism but can't take it!


4 hours and I'm at 75% YEAH!!!!!! only an hour or so to go before I can play the demo!!!

Sheesh ... once again out of context because some of you are still on that bandwagon .

I simply meant leave my opinions out of this discussion from here on out since it seems to be creating issues for some people that I have an opinion on a playstation game that is not 100% positive , therefore I must be an Xbot ... right !

I was not telling you what to do , I was asking for people to simply stop making the thread about my opinions and have a reasonable discussion , that should have been pretty obvious from the way it is worded .

What is it going to take for some of you to just move along and realize you are only bringing yourselves down ???

- Jason

You know, if you would just report the posts to the mods and not feel obligated to respond to each and every attack, it wouldn't go on for two pages.

Just a thought.

Im the same way as DGP I expecting to be blown away with the graphics as I did the first time I seen gears of war but I really wasnt. I Just like that theres so much stuff going on its awesome. overall its great hope the final version will blow me away.

fuseman ,

I don't see how what I wrote was lashing at you in my initial response , you were very civil and so was I but your response to me was not as civil when you start saying that I am telling you what to do , I was not at all ( read it again , you took it out of context and must want to believe what some of your fellow playstation fans are implying ) . I am always civil and have no problem being questioned about my opinions but in this thread certain people were taking issue with my opinions so instead of seeing the thread further deteriorate into an argument I simply said that my opinion no longer matters and to move the discussion along ( pretty simple really , some want to read more into everything that I type so they can twist it in an attempt to make me look bad ) .

No harm done ,
- Jason

You know, if you would just report the posts to the mods and not feel obligated to respond to each and every attack, it wouldn't go on for two pages.

Just a thought.

I know but I don't want to have to report people , it's just out of hand and I should not have to keep dealing with the nonsense ( wouldn't you agree with that ? ) .

- Jason

fuseman ,

I don't see how what I wrote was lashing at you in my initial response , you were very civil and so was I but your response to me was not as civil when you start saying that I am telling you what to do , I was not at all ( read it again , you took it out of context and must want to believe what some of your fellow playstation fans are implying ) . I am always civil and have no problem being questioned about my opinions but in this thread certain people were taking issue with my opinions so instead of seeing the thread further deteriorate into an argument I simply said that my opinion no longer matters and to move the discussion along ( pretty simple really , some want to read more into everything that I type so they can twist it in an attempt to make me look bad ) .

No harm done ,
- Jason

i count two periods.

i count two periods.

Yeah and i should be I .

Oh yeah , what was your point again ? :p

- Jason

fuseman ,

I don't see how what I wrote was lashing at you in my initial response , you were very civil and so was I but your response to me was not as civil when you start saying that I am telling you what to do , I was not at all ( read it again , you took it out of context and must want to believe what some of your fellow playstation fans are implying ) . I am always civil and have no problem being questioned about my opinions but in this thread certain people were taking issue with my opinions so instead of seeing the thread further deteriorate into an argument I simply said that my opinion no longer matters and to move the discussion along ( pretty simple really , some want to read more into everything that I type so they can twist it in an attempt to make me look bad ) .

No harm done ,
- Jason

I agree with most of what you say here...and I am not one of those guy personally attacking you. Maybe you should re-read the post you wrote me. Not everyone sees things as you do?
I'm taking this to PM so the thread no longer is derailed by this...I do however want to continue a civil discussion with you without you thinking I am trying to make you look bad.

You know, if you would just report the posts to the mods and not feel obligated to respond to each and every attack, it wouldn't go on for two pages.

Just a thought.

You should stay out of this...before I report you!!!! :rolleyes:
I'm not attacking anyone. :confused:

Yeah and i should be I .

Oh yeah , what was your point again ? :p

- Jason

that's how i do. my point was obvious.

kz2 is too dark for a bright livingroom.

I agree with most of what you say here...and I am not one of those guy personally attacking you. Maybe you should re-read the post you wrote me. Not everyone sees things as you do?
I'm taking this to PM so the thread no longer is derailed by this...I do however want to continue a civil discussion with you without you thinking I am trying to make you look bad.

Sounds good , and I appreciate your civility . I was not implying you were part of the group , just that maybe you wanted to believe them ;) .

Feel free to PM me .
- Jason

You should stay out of this...before I report you!!!! :rolleyes:
I'm not attacking anyone. :confused:

Hehe , He was just trying to help . No harm no foul there and I don't think he was talking about reporting you (I certainly had no intention of it) .

- Jason

my point was obvious.

kz2 is too dark for a bright livingroom.

You just need a brighter display ;) . Have you adjusted the in game display controls ? There is a brightness adjustment right at the get go but there is also a Gamma adjustment if you need some shadow detail .

- Jason

Wow.

No wonder you have over 11K posts....

No wonder you have over 11K posts....

Just responding . Remember that I have been here at AVS for 8 years and I post in many areas , not just the gaming section ;) .

- Jason

You should stay out of this...before I report you!!!! :rolleyes:
I'm not attacking anyone. :confused:

I wasn't referring to you. Right, or wrong, turmoil follows DGP these days. If he's sick of dealing with it, he shouldn't. Report the post, and move on. He doesn't need to feel bad about it. We're all adults here. If he stands by his posts and someone gets personal, report it. Simple.







Would you people believe that I downloaded both the Killzone 2 demo and the update for Burnout, and all I want to do is go lay in bed and read? I'll try out Killzone 2 tomorrow...

Kids. KIDS! Mom's gonna stop this car (lock this thread) unless you all get along. Just pretend no one pissed you off, suck it up, and go take it out on your unsuspecting dogs. Cool? Cool.

Ahem. Back on topic: I was also a bit underwhelmed the first time I saw this game in action. But as I've said multiple times, it's because first impressions are often all about raw resolution.

The "graphics" in this game aren't about high resolution textures and super high poly counts. It's in all the subtle details. The texture work doesn't compare to Uncharted. If you walk up to a steel wall in this demo and take a look, it looks like crap. But it's everything else that deserves our awe. Weapon models. Character models (especially enemies). Amazing lighting effects. Very nice volumetric work (smoke, explosions, dust, etc.). Great particle effects.

IMO that's the big payoff for the cell architecture: all these additional effects (not to mention physics, audio, and AI!) at the expense of raw poly and pixel count. If you're hoping that a huge 1080p set will somehow improve this game, you're not wrong, but you're looking in the wrong place for how great this game looks. :D

I miss having a secondary fire mode, takes away a little bit of depth from single player. Otherwise no complaints. I really like the feel of the controls.

Anyone have a their rocket shot out of the air?

Really took me by surprise the first time, and the damn thing started coming back my way too! Next time i'll have to make sure I'm not firing em while being sprayed with bullets..

Originally posted by DaGamePimp
Remember that I have been here at AVS for 8 years and I post in many areas , not just the gaming section ;) .

Me too;)

I very impressed with the sound effects!:)

I am using the configuration closest to COD4.

Wow DGP, a trifecta of posts back to back. Well done! :)

This is my Killzone2 demo story. I'm downloading now, 44% in ten minutes not bad. Can you believe the darn GS demo card? I could barely read the code. 2 numbers got peeled off with the stupid sticker and I had to try different combinations. It wasn't too bad because you could kind of make it out a little so it's like probably a 0, but more likely a G. Hmm, it could be a 9 too. Anyways, I'm not that good at math but the number of possibilities dropped from around 1.1 million to 4. I mean what the hell is that thing anyway, a scratch off or a peel off? :confused:

Sheesh ... once again out of context because some of you are still on that bandwagon .

I simply meant leave my opinions out of this discussion from here on out since it seems to be creating issues for some people that I have an opinion on a playstation game that is not 100% positive , therefore I must be an Xbot ... right !

I was not telling you what to do , I was asking for people to simply stop making the thread about my opinions and have a reasonable discussion , that should have been pretty obvious from the way it is worded .

What is it going to take for some of you to just move along and realize you are only bringing yourselves down ???

- Jason

Jason, just let it go brother! If someone wants to take the p1$$ out of you they are allowed to, and the more you reply to it the more you'll receive it.

Honestly, as an outsider it looks as though you're waiting for someone to bring something up just so you can tell them to "move along".

Seriuosly man, don't take forum comments so personally, it's only the internet.

EDIT

Everyone, I'm sorry to get sucked in and go off topic, but I can only take so much of all this "you offended me", "no I didn't" crap. Geeeeez.

make a new thread if you feel compelled to continue this ridiculous discussion. it's one guy, for ****'s sake.






i just screwed around at the part where you have to secure the beach. after a couple minutes the objective was complete. it's pretty sweet that your computer squad mates are actually worth something other than absorbing enemy fire.

then i hung out in that room where the guy has to pick the lock. i thought the enemies would just hang out in the hangar. this was not the case.

in short, the ai in this game is a notch above the rest, imo. i can't wait to see how they react in a more open part of the game. also, i hope there are more than just a handful of them to take on at once. if i'm honest, that is the main reason i found this demo to be a bit boring.

I felt a bit to zoomed in. It seems that they need to back the camera up a little. The sound is amazing, but some of the graphics are a little disappointing. It's only a demo though.

I felt a bit too zoomed in. It seems that they need to back the camera up a little.

I was thinking the same thing as I played.

just because the game has the sickest graphics ever, doesnt mean its going to be good. graphics isnt everything. gameplay is what matters the most to me. and of course. less bugs.

from the vids i saw about KZ2. they guys were runnign around wildly shooting from the hip, no aiming, very fast paced much like Resistance. So.. its not gonna be my type of game. ill stick with mgs4 and cod4 until COD6, uncharted 2 and RE5 come out.

feel free to attack me. or even better, keyser delete my post if u want.

just because the game has the sickest graphics ever, doesnt mean its going to be good. graphics isnt everything. gameplay is what matters the most to me. and of course. less bugs.

from the vids i saw about KZ2. they guys were runnign around wildly shooting from the hip, no aiming, very fast paced much like Resistance. So.. its not gonna be my type of game. ill stick with mgs4 and cod4 until COD6, uncharted 2 and RE5 come out.

feel free to attack me. or even better, keyser delete my post if u want.

That's understandable. It's not a game for everyone, that's for sure. No attacks and no need to delete your post.

Now let's get things back on track.

For those who have made their point, please move on.

Thanks,

Kyser

Really digging the game the more i play. At first was not sure if i liked the controls, but when i turned off the hud and the crosshairs for some reason the game played better. I guess not having the crosshairs on the screen made me use the sights more on the guns. The sound and the particle effects are lovely. Love blowing up the gas tanks in the last part of the demo.

Love blowing up the gas tanks in the last part of the demo.

Agreed. Especially when you shoot them once and then watch them "snake" around before blowing up!

I'm downloading now, 44% in ten minutes not bad.

Somehow I'm at 39% in three hours. At this rate, I might get the demo downloaded by the time the game is released.

just because the game has the sickest graphics ever, doesnt mean its going to be good. graphics isnt everything. gameplay is what matters the most to me. and of course. less bugs.

from the vids i saw about KZ2. they guys were runnign around wildly shooting from the hip, no aiming, very fast paced much like Resistance. So.. its not gonna be my type of game. ill stick with mgs4 and cod4 until COD6, uncharted 2 and RE5 come out.

feel free to attack me. or even better, keyser delete my post if u want.

Don't know if you know, but you can use iron sights. I'd suggest trying the demo at least. It feels better then COD to me.

Agreed. Especially when you shoot them once and then watch them "snake" around before blowing up!

I did and one shot across the room spinning toward an enemy. The enemy realized what was going on and tired to high tail it outta his position. Unfortunately for him, he was right near a cashe of more hydrogen canisters.

just because the game has the sickest graphics ever, doesnt mean its going to be good. graphics isnt everything. gameplay is what matters the most to me. and of course. less bugs.

from the vids i saw about KZ2. they guys were runnign around wildly shooting from the hip, no aiming, very fast paced much like Resistance. So.. its not gonna be my type of game. ill stick with mgs4 and cod4 until COD6, uncharted 2 and RE5 come out.

feel free to attack me. or even better, keyser delete my post if u want.

just play the ****ing demo. you will like it.

Having played the beta and now the demo I think the more you see of the game the more you'll like the graphics. I actually thought the beta was smoother than the demo. However the beta was more floaty and in the demo I felt like I was actually running on a surface. If the MP works as advertised it will have the best graphics of any MP game that WORKS on the PS3. ;)

This game doesn't seem as fast as Resistance but it is a little faster than COD4. I'm really hoping this game works as advertised when released because I think it will be a lot of fun.

I played the demo a couple times and here are my thoughts.

Graphically it looked great. The animation and effects were good. They seemed to really add to the immersion factor and take away the "game" look. I did take the time to stare at the walls a little and the game was clearly meant to be looked at in motion. Some of the textures are weak but I don't think you'll notice while playing but they can be found. Its hard to say how good the graphics really are since the demo level is fairly uninspired stuff.

I really liked the gameplay. I prefer slower paced shooters so I adapted to the controls fairly easily. It felt like bringing up the sights was slower than most games and I learned to stop trying to use the sights all the time. In COD4 I almost always use the sights for every shot. The cover system is good but took a little getting used to. I had a tendency to let go of the button and loose my cover without noticing. Also the pop-up mechanic took some getting used to. The game gave a nice feel of advancing from position to position and the AI seemed to do the same.

I wish there was some sort of multiplayer to try out. It's hard to imagine how the game will play without the cover system. Hopefully it's not too run n gun. It seems like the scatter on the weapons beyond short range is enough to prevent that.

I felt a bit to zoomed in. It seems that they need to back the camera up a little. The sound is amazing, but some of the graphics are a little disappointing. It's only a demo though.I think what a lot of people are picking up on is that the FOV is really limited. I'm sure it's done intentionally to add to the "immersion" factor, but I think it can feel very cramped to some people. I think that's also why people feel that the camera position is too low or why it can feel a little nauseating. It works for me, but I'm pretty immune to the effect. I mean, if I can stomach 30+ hours of Mirror's Edge, this is child's play. :D

I'm very impressed with the demo. The graphics were what I was expecting and the gameplay feels very good. I'd best describe it as a combination of RB6 Vegas and COD4, which is a good thing. The weapons feels very solid and I like the level of recoil.

I'm immune to motion sickness and don't notice any of the FOV issues that have been mentioned. I'm officially looking forward to release day.

Smooth and fluid combat interaction with detailed although bland graphics. If the demo is a good sample then K2 will be well worth the $60.00. Good job to those who put this game together very polished.

the immersion was fantastic. it felt "real". hard to explain.
gears2, resistance2, COD, etc. felt like you could always beat the game, kinda cartoony. the is more like a war simulator.
really a neat way to make a game. nice polish.

TBH I had no issues with the controls. The graphics are amazing and the gameplay is top notch IMO. I really, really, really can't wait for this game to come out. Also, on top of the graphics, did anyone crank the surround sound? Holy hell its amazing!

Also, I had a GS code and started the DL at 9 and by 9:30 (right after The Office) it was already done. Not sure why you guys are having a hitch in DL'ing the demo.

I just wasn't overwhelmed....maybe all the hype slightly dissapointed me but I'll wait for the game to make a final decision. I mainly play mutliplayer but as it stands now, I just don't think its the caliber of cod4, but this is the demo...still look forward to the mutli player in kz2 and see how that performs against cod4.

91%, takes forever lol. Almost.

I was not very impressed with the demo over all. Yes it was probably the best as far as graphics and sound that I have seen on the PS3, but the gameplay was lacking. The demo reminded me too much of the R2 demo, same feel for the game, very rushed game play. All run and gun with no tactical planning or approach at all. Also the weapons and hit detection seemed off to me. IF i shot the guy in the head his helmet will go flying off, but the after I pump half a clip into his exposed head he just ducks behind some cover and continues to shot at me like nothing is wrong. Doesn't seem too realistic.

I have no problems with the button layout. I choose alt.2 and I'm fine.

My problem is with the sensativity. When I'm aiming across the x-axis, it's hard to place the dot on a Helgast without over-aiming. I tried turning the sensativity all the way down, and it's much better, but it takes FOREVER turn. I then turn it up a notch or two to compensate, but it's still a problem.

Just played the Killzone 2 demo. Easily the BEST looking console FPS game ever. Looks almost CG cutscene like. Too bad the controls and response is somewhat clunky. It seems to lag behind. COD4 is responsive as soon as you press the button.

This is one to watch out for if you have a ps3. I just hope they can fix the response issue. I couldn't aim for ****, which is ridiculous considering I can aim in pretty much any other FPS. Disappointing in this aspect.

Guess I'll be hip firing more than I'm used to. <__<

I also chose ALt 2, as zooming in with the right analog is the most retarded layout I've ever seen. Aiming and zooming shouldn't be set to the same button. Ugh.

I have no problems with the button layout. I choose alt.2 and I'm fine.

My problem is with the sensativity. When I'm aiming across the x-axis, it's hard to place the dot on a Helgast without over-aiming. I tried turning the sensativity all the way down, and it's much better, but it takes FOREVER turn. I then turn it up a notch or two to compensate, but it's still a problem.

I agree on the sensitivity part. I thought I sucked at it cause I over-aimed a lot. They should have made it so sensitivity turns down automatically when looking down the sight. After 5+ times playing of the demo I started getting used to, but still feels a bit off.

I agree on the sensitivity part. I thought I sucked at it cause I over-aimed a lot. They should have made it so sensitivity turns down automatically when looking down the sight. After 5+ times playing of the demo I started getting used to, but still feels a bit off.

I agree the game play just feels a little off. Hit detection and weapon accuracy seem to be off as well. I played though the demo 2x and it just seems sketchy.

Last night I looked for this on the PSN and couldn't find it. Is this out on the US PSN or am I missing something? Sorry if this has been answered already.

I agree on the sensitivity part. I thought I sucked at it cause I over-aimed a lot. They should have made it so sensitivity turns down automatically when looking down the sight. After 5+ times playing of the demo I started getting used to, but still feels a bit off.

I actually kind of like that aiming is more of a challenge in this game, as it fits with the entire slower paced, more realistic feel. I think that the aiming in COD4 is far too easy unless there is significant lag, as COD4 essentially boils down to "see guy, shoot guy, kill guy," all within a second. The weapon recoil and accuracy reminds me of Counterstrike.

To those having issues with the sensitivity: the best way to aim in this game is from behind cover. From there, peak out (while holding the cover/duck button push up or to the side). The reticule will be much easier to manage. You don't need to go into zoom mode, but your accuracy will be much improved over simply standing and aiming. I'm guessing that that will be the firing mode of choice throughout the game.

Give it a shot and see if that works for you.

Also, on top of the graphics, did anyone crank the surround sound? Holy hell its amazing!My favorite sound effect is walking slowly in and out of the doorways in the warehouse while firing a round at a time. The reverb/echo effect changes according to the space. In the enclosed spaces, you hear a much tighter, less echo-y sound. In the large space of the full warehouse, you hear the full size of the space echoing your fire. As you walk slowly between the two spaces through a doorway, you'll hear the sound gradually change. It isn't a sudden change. The effect sort of "fades" between the two spaces. So cool!

The only disappointment was the fact that it took 4 hours to download and the demo was way too short. But I really did like the game and can't wait for another 3 weeks. Really can't wait to try the Multi-player. Great graphics and intense gameplay.:)

I'm on the fence after playing the demo one time. That's probably a good thing however, given I'm a COD nut. I just used the default control scheme and will try the ALT2 scheme today to see if that's better. Snapping to FPV on your sights was a bit 'wonky' in the default control scheme for me. Graphics were good, but rather bland as others have stated. Uncharted and a few other games are on par with this one - which is a compliment to KZ2. Gameplay is where it's at for me and that's still a question for me. I play mostly multiplayer so this isn't really telling me what the core of the game I'd be playing is going to be like. So far, it still has my attention which is a good thing...

Last night I looked for this on the PSN and couldn't find it. Is this out on the US PSN or am I missing something? Sorry if this has been answered already.

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US PSN - you need a Gamestop pre-order code
UK PSN - No code needed

Am I the only one after playing the Demo that thinks this game is just alright?

I didn't get blown over by anything so far,and I am First person shooter nut.According to the video review you don't go outside that much,and the corridor aspect tends to be repetitive.

I kinda wish I wouldn't have played the demo now...cause I lost alot of my excitement for this one.

I actually kind of like that aiming is more of a challenge in this game, as it fits with the entire slower paced, more realistic feel. I think that the aiming in COD4 is far too easy unless there is significant lag, as COD4 essentially boils down to "see guy, shoot guy, kill guy," all within a second. The weapon recoil and accuracy reminds me of Counterstrike.

I like the recoil, but the accuracy could be a bit better. Not many shooters get that right, so its not too big of a deal breaker. Like many reviewers said, its an awesome game but its nothing new to the FPS (except the grafix etc). That's my biggest gripe.

Last night I looked for this on the PSN and couldn't find it. Is this out on the US PSN or am I missing something? Sorry if this has been answered already.

No its on the UK PSN. You gotta create a UK account. I'm a proud resident of the Hilton in London!:D

Last night I looked for this on the PSN and couldn't find it. Is this out on the US PSN or am I missing something? Sorry if this has been answered already.

You're missing something. And it's ok.

Last night I looked for this on the PSN and couldn't find it. Is this out on the US PSN or am I missing something? Sorry if this has been answered already.

You have to make an account in the UK.

Am I the only one after playing the Demo that thinks this game is just alright?

I didn't get blown over by anything so far,and I am First person shooter nut.According to the video review you don't go outside that much,and the corridor aspect tends to be repetitive.

I kinda wish I wouldn't have played the demo now...cause I lost alot of my excitement for this one.

No you're not. :)

Last night I looked for this on the PSN and couldn't find it. Is this out on the US PSN or am I missing something? Sorry if this has been answered already.

Only on the European PSN. Do a search here or Google to set up a EU account.

You have to make an account in the UK.

Yup. So you have to either fly there or get someone in the UK to create an account for you and then have them email/call you with the user name, id and password.

Isn't that how everyone else did it?

Yup. So you have to either fly there or get someone in the UK to create an account for you and then have them email/call you with the user name, id and password.

Isn't that how everyone else did it?

How would you have worded it?

How would you have worded it?

You have to make an account in the UK

You have to make a PSN UK account. :)

I like the recoil, but the accuracy could be a bit better. Not many shooters get that right, so its not too big of a deal breaker. Like many reviewers said, its an awesome game but its nothing new to the FPS (except the grafix etc). That's my biggest gripe.

Hmm, didn't have a accuracy problem in iron sight mode with short bursts. Not every bullet hit a target, especially when running. Aiming does take some getting used to after COD, but it's simulating raising a heavy weapon. It's personal opinion, but I liked it once you got used to it.

My guess is it'll have an effect when you get startled in a MP game and overact. Going to take some practice and nerves to get the feel of your gun down, which is a good thing.

One thing is ALt2 makes it feel like COD, but breaks the cover system. I was finding it really hard to stick to cover (L2), and go into iron sights (L1) peek out and aim.

If I were them, I'd probably switch grenade and cover stick in this setup.

Gonna have to get used to the default I think...

How would you have worded it?

LOL... I'm just messing around.... take it easy. I mean no harm.