So finally i got the suede for the wall. I tried to do on one part of the wall but i got stuck at the .... corner. How you guys do the corner? I see several pics posted on here with corners with no seam showing.

Do you stable on the side of the furring then tuck the fabric in?

This is much harder than i thought. Handling the fabric is a bitch. I keep having to re-pull and re-stable which makes me think i got the wrong tool for the job. I'm using 3-in-1 air nailer gun with crown stables. Am i doing it right?

Attach the fabric to the furring while the furring is off the wall then twist 90 degrees and attach the furring to the wall hiding the staples.

You really should visit ChinaDogs massive pictorial documentation of fabric installation. It's linked in his thread.

I used the Porter Cable upholstery stapler as have a good number of AVSers. Just a couple of other tips. Push Tacks are useful to help keep the fabric roughly in position. I placed staples 1 staple width apart and used over 20,000.

you can also do a google search for covering pool table rails....there are lots of examples and it should give you the general idea on how to hide staples...

its actually amazing what products are out there just for that purpose...

Attach the fabric to the furring while the furring is off the wall then twist 90 degrees and attach the furring to the wall hiding the staples.

You really should visit ChinaDogs massive pictorial documentation of fabric installation. It's linked in his thread.

I used the Porter Cable upholstery stapler as have a good number of AVSers. Just a couple of other tips. Push Tacks are useful to help keep the fabric roughly in position. I placed staples 1 staple width apart and used over 20,000.

I actually have read chinadog's build thread several time. However i still dont see how he did the corners. I follow his step to put the fabric on the top furring strip (as you can only use either top or bottom).

So am i using the right staplers/staples? I'm using crown staples.... no idea what they're for but since i got the nailer for other works (trims, casing...) i figured i can use it with crown staples.

This is much harder than i thought. My wife is already complaining as it takes too long to finish the room. I should have just use the panels lol (cant go back now )

ps. as you can tell i'm a novie/noob. This is my first time doing some sort of construction lol. I'm a HT virgin.

you can also do a google search for covering pool table rails....there are lots of examples and it should give you the general idea on how to hide staples...

its actually amazing what products are out there just for that purpose...

Can you be more specific of what i'm looking for? a tool? a product?...

I searched "covering pool table rails" and all i got is bunch of how to build pool table sites as well as stores selling pool table accessories.

Allow me to explain the technique. I'm just going to use materials here at my desk.

So the piece of paper is your cloth and the fallout box is the firring strip.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb308/mdrueen/IMG_0201-1.jpg

Take the cloth and staple it to the side of the sirring strip that will be the depth from the wall. At this point the firring strip is not attached to the wall. You can do this with everything on the floor.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb308/mdrueen/IMG_0202-1.jpg
Now you take that firring strip, rotate it 90 degrees so that the staples are facing the corner.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb308/mdrueen/IMG_0203.jpg

Push the strip into the corner and tack it to the wall.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb308/mdrueen/IMG_0204-2.jpg

Make sense?

Thanks for your effort but its not doable. In my previous post, i did say i used the same technique.

You can only do this to the side strip if you didnt staple the cloth on the top trip. In my case i did. I used your exact steps but for the top strip.

So now i'm doing the sides which then it hit me at the corner. My plan is: Doing the top strip first, then do the sides, then start pulling the cloth down and staple it to the bottom strip. This was how chinadog did. However, he didnt say how he did the corner.

If that is the case then staple as close to the corners as possible and cover with either trim or a piece of trim wrapped in matching fabric.

On my corners I joined the top and one side (corner strips) and stapled them both before putting them up. Because that made it harder to get underneath and attach the strips, I put some adhesive on the back of the strips and used a brad nailer to pin them to the wall until the adhesive set. Then I finished the bottom and other side. Note that you only need to do this with one of the sides since one corner strip will cover the staples of the other where the corner meets.

I'm using staples on 2 sides and then fabricmate track on the other 2 sides.

So, in the case of my soffits for example, I will staple along the wall and pull the fabric up over my light treys and staple them inside. That takes care of 2, opposite sides of the fabric. The other 2 sides will simply get tucked into the fabric track.

Is that any help?

On my corners I joined the top and one side (corner strips) and stapled them both before putting them up. Because that made it harder to get underneath and attach the strips, I put some adhesive on the back of the strips and used a brad nailer to pin them to the wall until the adhesive set. Then I finished the bottom and other side. Note that you only need to do this with one of the sides since one corner strip will cover the staples of the other where the corner meets.

How did you put them up without damaging the fabric? Wouldnt the brad nail tear the fabric off? Before doing all this, i already tested shooting a nail on a piece of my fabric with a block of wood underneath (its suede) and it wont work (the fabric will be stretched all around the pinch).

I'm using staples on 2 sides and then fabricmate track on the other 2 sides.

So, in the case of my soffits for example, I will staple along the wall and pull the fabric up over my light treys and staple them inside. That takes care of 2, opposite sides of the fabric. The other 2 sides will simply get tucked into the fabric track.

Is that any help?

Sorry but what is fabricmate track? I'm not familiar with this term.

Fabricmate track is a cloth mounting system you can buy. It works like the track you use for building screen windows. Basically you use a pizza cutter to push the cloth in and it holds it tight. The stuff ain't cheap though.

www.cascadeaudio.com/commercial_residential/pdf/Fab-Trax_Install.pdf

This what you were looking for? Might have missed it in the index.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7431517#post7431517

Bud

How did you put them up without damaging the fabric? Wouldnt the brad nail tear the fabric off? Before doing all this, i already tested shooting a nail on a piece of my fabric with a block of wood underneath (its suede) and it wont work (the fabric will be stretched all around the pinch).Sorry, missed that you're using suede. The fabric I used is relatively "porous", so a few tiny brads weren't noticeable in my case. I had also forgotten until I went back and looked at the pictures that I stopped doing that about halfway through when I decided to do a top moulding.

Another choice is building panels.

In other words build your frame off the wall. Then wrap your fabric tight around it and staple the fabric on the back. Then you can fasten the panel to the wall. I used velcro for mine. Gpowers and Pmeyer did a great job of detailing their techniques as well.

This what you were looking for? Might have missed it in the index.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7431517#post7431517

Bud

Oh i missed it indeed. I didnt read through the whole thread but through the index...

I did think of that but I stapled the fabric to the top strips first because to me they're all visible. Hence i cant follow your steps as i cant staple the fabric on the side strips prior putting them on the wall.

Any idea? Only if i can get something like fabricmate track locally, my wife is already unhappy and you all know what its like :o

Another choice is building panels.

In other words build your frame off the wall. Then wrap your fabric tight around it and staple the fabric on the back. Then you can fasten the panel to the wall. I used velcro for mine. Gpowers and Pmeyer did a great job of detailing their techniques as well.

Its too late now. Too much work and i already stapled all the fabric on the top strips.... When your wife is rushing you, you cant take time to think :mad:

EDIT: I just looked into this. Its actually not what i thought, a tracking system. So which products from Velcro are you using? I'm on their site : http://www.velcro.ca/consumer/diy-and-home . Is it strong enough to hold the whole panel? If this works, man it will be so easy to do...(i think)

Sorry, missed that you're using suede. The fabric I used is relatively "porous", so a few tiny brads weren't noticeable in my case. I had also forgotten until I went back and looked at the pictures that I stopped doing that about halfway through when I decided to do a top moulding.

The fabric you got is speaker cloth from Fabricland right? If worst come to worst i will just get them and save the suede for a proper installation next time (like a year from now lol)

The fabric you got is speaker cloth from Fabricland right? If worst come to worst i will just get them and save the suede for a proper installation next time (like a year from now lol)No, the speaker cloth is on the bottom. I didn't have to worry about hiding staples there because they're covered with wood panels. Its the top fabric where I did that in a couple of the corners.

Oh i missed it indeed. I didnt read through the whole thread but through the index...

I did think of that but I stapled the fabric to the top strips first because to me they're all visible. Hence i cant follow your steps as i cant staple the fabric on the side strips prior putting them on the wall.

Any idea? Only if i can get something like fabricmate track locally, my wife is already unhappy and you all know what its like :o

You can probably use the track just for tucking into the corners (one track for both perpendicular sides) like we did for Chad's theater.

Bud

You can probably use the track just for tucking into the corners (one track for both perpendicular sides) like we did for Chad's theater.

Bud

I'm calling around to ask for the track. I found one place selling them locally but they only sell them in large quantity for a commercial project. I guess i have to keep trying.

Thank you so much tho. Your thread helped me tremendously through out the project.

Where are you located? FabriTRAK is a similar product (www.fabritrak.com) as is QuestTrac from www.questai.com. If you can't find it locally, you can buy from the Fabricmate web site. Seems like the pros installing this are commercial painting contractors. Might check them out.

Its too late now. Too much work and i already stapled all the fabric on the top strips.... When your wife is rushing you, you cant take time to think :mad:

EDIT: I just looked into this. Its actually not what i thought, a tracking system. So which products from Velcro are you using? I'm on their site : http://www.velcro.ca/consumer/diy-and-home . Is it strong enough to hold the whole panel? If this works, man it will be so easy to do...(i think)

I bought a commercial grade from Lowe's. It's 2" wide. I used a minimum of 6 4" long strips on each panel. Some I used more, depending on what the panel had to go around.

If speed to completion is your thing, this may not be the best route. I have done it both ways. Nailing strips to the wall took about two days by myself. Doing panels took me about 2 weeks. I went with panels this time because you can always take it down and fix something without tearing up all your hard work.