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barbie845
02-09-09, 11:48 AM
Guess who's on this list??

SXM doesn't surprise me, but a few on this list did surprised me.. Rite Aid for one.


15 Companies That Might Not Survive 2009

* Rick Newman
* Friday February 6, 2009, 11:53 am EST

With consumers shutting their wallets and corporate revenues plunging, the business landscape may start to resemble a graveyard in 2009. Household names like Circuit City and Linens 'n Things have already perished. And chances are, those bankruptcies were just an early warning sign of a much broader epidemic.

Moody's Investors Service, for instance, predicts that the default rate on corporate bonds - which foretells bankruptcies - will be three times higher in 2009 than in 2008, and 15 times higher than in 2007. That could equate to 25 significant bankruptcies per month.

We examined ratings from Moody's and data from other sources to develop a short list of potential victims that ought to be familiar to most consumers. Many of these firms are in industries directly hit by the slowdown in consumer spending, such as retail, automotive, housing and entertainment.

But there are other common threads. Most of these firms have limited cash for a rainy day, and a lot of debt, with large interest payments due over the next year. In ordinary times, it might not be so hard to refinance loans, or get new ones, to help keep the cash flowing. But in an acute credit crunch it's a different story, and at companies where sales are down and going lower, skittish lenders may refuse to grant any more credit. It's a terrible time to be cash-poor.

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That's why Moody's assigns most of these firms its lowest rating for short-term liquidity. And all the firms on this list have long-term debt that Moody's rates Caa or lower, which means the borrower is considered at least a "very high" credit risk.

Once a company defaults on its debt, or fails to make a payment, the next step is usually a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing. Some firms continue to operate while in Chapter 11, retaining many of their employees. Those firms often shed debt, restructure, and emerge from bankruptcy as healthier companies.

But it takes fresh financing to do that, and with money scarce, more bankrupt firms than usual are likely to liquidate - like Circuit City. That's why corporate failures are likely to be a major drag on the economy in 2009: In a liquidation, the entire workforce often gets axed, with little or no severance. That will only add to unemployment, which could hit 9 or even 10 percent by the end of the year.

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It's possible that none of the firms on this list will liquidate, or even declare Chapter 11. Some may come up with unexpected revenue or creative financing that helps avert bankruptcy, while others could be purchased in whole or in part by creditors or other investors. But one way or another, the following 15 firms will probably look a lot different a year from now than they do today:

Rite Aid. (Ticker symbol: RAD; about 100,000 employees; 1-year stock-price decline: 92%). This drugstore chain tried to boost its performance by acquiring competitors Brooks and Eckerd in 2007. But there have been some nasty side effects, like a huge debt load that makes it the most leveraged drugstore chain in the U.S., according to Zacks Equity Research. That big retail investment came just as megadiscounter Wal-Mart was starting to sell prescription drugs, and consumers were starting to cut bank on spending. Management has twice lowered its outlook for 2009. Prognosis: Mounting losses, with no turnaround in sight.

Claire's Stores. (Privately owned; about 18,000 employees.) Leon Black's once-renowned private-equity firm, the Apollo Group, paid $3.1 billion for this trendy teen-focused accessory store in 2007, when buyout funds were bulging. But cash flow has been negative for much of the past year and analysts believe Claire's is close to defaulting on its debt. A horrible retail outlook for 2009 offers no relief, suggesting Claire's could follow Linens 'n Things - another Apollo purchase - and declare Chapter 11, possibly shuttering all of its 3,000-plus stores.

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Chrysler. (Privately owned; about 55,000 employees). It's never a good sign when management insists the company is not going out of business, which is what CEO Bob Nardelli has been doing lately. Of the three Detroit automakers, Chrysler is the most endangered, with a product portfolio that's overreliant on gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs and almost totally devoid of compelling small cars. A recent deal with Fiat seems dubious, since the Italian automaker doesn't have to pony up any money, and Chrysler desperately needs cash. The company is quickly burning through $4 billion in government bailout money, and with car sales down 40 percent from recent peaks, Chrysler may be the weakling that can't cut it in tough times.

Dollar Thrifty Automotive Group. (DTG; about 7,000 employees; stock down 95%). This car-rental company is a small player compared to Enterprise, Hertz, and Avis Budget. It's also more reliant on leisure travelers, and therefore more susceptible to a downturn as consumers cut spending. Dollar Thrifty is also closely tied to Chrysler, which supplies 80 percent of its fleet. Moody's predicts that if Chrysler declares Chapter 11, Dollar Thrifty would suffer deeply as well.

Realogy Corp. (Privately owned; about 13,000 employees). It's the biggest real-estate brokerage firm in the country, but that's a bad thing when there are double-digit declines in both sales and prices, as there were in 2009. Realogy, which includes the Coldwell Banker, ERA, and Sotheby's franchises, also carries a high debt load, dating to its purchase by the Apollo Group in 2007 - the very moment when the housing market was starting to invert from a soaring ride into a sickening nosedive. Realogy has been trying to refinance much of its debt, prompting lawsuits. One deal was denied by a judge in December, reducing the firm's already tight wiggle room.

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Station Casinos. (Privately owned, about 14,000 employees). Las Vegas has already been creamed by a biblical real-estate bust, and now it may face the loss of its home-grown gambling joints, too. Station - which runs 15 casinos off the strip that cater to locals - recently failed to make a key interest payment, which is often one of the last steps before a Chapter 11 filing. For once, the house seems likely to lose.

Loehmann's Capital Corp. (Privately owned; about 1,500 employees). This clothing chain has the right formula for lean times, offering women's clothing at discount prices. But the consumer pullback is hitting just about every retailer, and Loehmann's has a lot less cash to ride out a drought than competitors like Nordstrom Rack and TJ Maxx. If Loehmann's doesn't get additional financing in 2009 - a dicey proposition, given skyrocketing unemployment and plunging spending - the chain could run out of cash.

Sbarro. (Privately owned; about 5,500 employees). It's not the pizza that's the problem. Many of this chain's 1,100 storefronts are in malls, which is a double whammy: Traffic is down, since consumers have put away their wallets. Sbarro can't really boost revenue by adding a breakfast or late-night menu, like other chains have done. And competitors like Domino's and Pizza Hut have less debt and stronger cash flow, which could intensify pressure on Sbarro as key debt payments come due in 2009.

Six Flags. (SIX; about 30,000 employees; stock down 84%). This theme-park operator has been losing money for several years, and selling off properties to try to pay down debt and get back into the black. But the ride may end prematurely. Moody's expects cash flow to be negative in 2009, and if consumers aren't spending during the peak summer season, that could imperil the company's ability to pay debts coming due later this year and in 2010.

Blockbuster. (BBI; about 60,000 employees; stock down 57%). The video-rental chain has burned cash while trying to figure out how to maximize fees without alienating customers. Its operating income has started to improve just as consumers are cutting back, even on movies. Video stores in general are under pressure as they compete with cable and Internet operators offering the same titles. A key test of Blockbuster's viability will come when two credit lines expire in August. One possible outcome, according to Valueline, is that investors take the company private and then go public again when market conditions are better.

Krispy Kreme. (KKD; about 4,000 employees; stock down 50%). The donuts might be good, but Krispy Kreme overestimated Americans' appetite - and that's saying something. This chain overexpanded during the donut heyday of the 1990s - taking on a lot of debt - and now requires high volumes to meet expenses and interest payments. The company has cut costs and closed underperforming stores, but still hasn't earned an operating profit in three years. And now that consumers are cutting back on everything, such improvements may fail to offset top-line declines, leading Krispy Kreme to seek some kind of relief from lenders over the next year.

Landry's Restaurants. (LNY; about 17,000 employees; stock down 66%). This restaurant chain, which operates Chart House, Rainforest Café, and other eateries, needs $400 million in new financing to finalize a buyout deal dating to last June. If lenders come through, the company should have enough cash to ride out the recession. But at least two banks have already balked, leading to downgrades of the company's debt and the prospect of a cash-flow crunch.

Sirius Satellite Radio. (SIRI - parent company; about 1,000 employees; stock down 96%). The music rocks, but satellite radio has yet to be profitable, and huge contracts for performers like Howard Stern are looking unsustainable. Sirius is one of two satellite-radio services owned by parent company Sirius XM, which was formed when Sirius and XM merged last year. So far, the merger hasn't generated the savings needed to make the company profitable, and Moody's thinks there's a "high likelihood" that Sirius will fail to repay or refinance its debt in 2009. One outcome could be a takeover, at distressed prices, by other firms active in the satellite business.

Trump Entertainment Resorts Holdings. (TRMP; about 9,500 employees; stock down 94%). The casino company made famous by The Donald has received several extensions on interest payments, while it tries to sell at least one of its Atlantic City properties and pay down a stack of debt. But with casino buyers scarce, competition circling, and gamblers nursing their losses from the recession, Trump Entertainment may face long odds of skirting bankruptcy.

BearingPoint. (BGPT; about 16,000 employees; stock down 21%). This Virginia-based consulting firm, spun out of KPMG in 2001, is struggling to solve its own operating problems. The firm has consistently lost money, revenue has been falling, and management stopped issuing earnings guidance in 2008. Stable government contracts generate about 30 percent of the firm's business, but the firm may sell other divisions to help pay off debt. With a key interest payment due in April, management needs to hustle - or devise its own exit strategy.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/15-Companies-That-Might-Not-usnews-14279875.html

ti-triodes
02-09-09, 07:19 PM
Sad and scary. Thanks for the post.

PKinSFLA
02-09-09, 07:22 PM
I am starting to not give a damn about companies which go bankrupt as they forget the reason they exist, which is their cash paying customers. Circuit City got rid of their better paid employees by btheir CEO and the result was stores full of lower paid people who had very little clues of what they were selling. I found stores pitifull with messy ailses, nothing hooked up in soundrooms and no ability to compare speakers or anything else.

Next, Comcast takes away a nice , simple email program they had and replace it with some crap called "Smart Zone". This program is so slow and tedius that I can not see any reason for it to exist on this planet. I am dumping Showtime and seriously looking at a a sat system for my TV room and just use the HOA cable for the other rooms. Comcast charges a fortune for each HD TV you have with seperate boxes, digital fees and other nonsense.

Sirius has been in our car for years and my biggest complaint was the crappy antenna they provide with the magnet mount. I have gone through a few of these as they fray very easilly and can not be spliced back together. They knew it was cheap becuase their staff had no problem sending me another one in the mail as it was a common problem.

Last week I get this letter asking me to renew for one to three years and get free computer access. It just happened that my ant wire shorted out again and I wanted to call them about it. This magnet and wire antenna is made in China and is sold for $39.95 while a whole new car kit with reciever is often marked down to 49.95!

When I called them I found that they had a new layer of nonsense in customer service whic was just as described here a few weeks ago. You go through endless choices to press on your phone until you finally get someone with limited English on a Vonage type phone system

I blew my stack cause Vonage is also on my death list as they would have an English speaking rep sign you up on a clear sounding line. WHen you had a problem with somehting, they gave you someone in an overseas location who used Vonage and you could not even hear clearly what you could also not understand!

If Sirius wants to give Howard a half billion dollars that is their call. However, if you overpaid for talent and then expecgt me to put up with subsidizing this with a $39.95 made in China 2 buck antenna with barely understandable customer service on a Vonage style line, Mel can kiss by a*s and my money good bye. Howard can be King of the universe as each show is just a copy of every other show after a while.

Does anyone have any cheaper alternatives to the $39.95 car antenna or do I say goodbye to yet another example of a company which needs to die so it can be brought back to life?

barbie845
02-09-09, 07:59 PM
Does anyone have any cheaper alternatives to the $39.95 car antenna

Ebay..

fastl
02-09-09, 08:00 PM
I haven't been keeping up with details in the last year. Where is most of the debt? On the Sirius side or the XM side? Wouldn't it be amusing if they had to spin XM off.

barbie845
02-09-09, 08:36 PM
I haven't been keeping up with details in the last year. Where is most of the debt? On the Sirius side or the XM side? Wouldn't it be amusing if they had to spin XM off.

Both sides are heavily in debt.

But your 2nd point is interesting..If rumors are correct one of the reasons Echostar might be interested in SXM is because of XM's satellites, and the ground repeater system. From what I'm reading XM's satellites can be re-programmed for video and HD, Sirius's sats can not. And XM's ground repeater system was much larger than Sirius's.

But if SXM sold off XM's sats and repeaters that would leave 9 million XM subs with nothing to listen too. That would give Sirius instant cash, but 1/2 the subs so that won't help.

So unless Ergen wants to buy up the whole company SXM is in 'serious' trouble.

plasmamaniac
02-09-09, 08:46 PM
I have never understood the "Howard Stern" thing at all. After about 10 shows you have seen everything he has to offer and if they were losing money in a bad economic downturn why would they pay $500 million for one guy on one station that not everyone wants to tune into???

BEATS ME!!!

CoreyM
02-09-09, 08:51 PM
Howard Stern put Sirius on the map. Whether you or I like him is irrelevant, the numbers don't lie, XM had the name recognition and the customer base and Howard Stern almost got it to 50-50. If his contract hadn't been so ridiculous things could be much different now.

On a side note, I'm really surprised to see Station Casinos on this list.

barbie845
02-09-09, 09:35 PM
If his contract hadn't been so ridiculous things could be much different now.


Stern's contract was a good part of Sirius's debt, but not the only part. Sirius pissed a lot money away, so did XM.

I can't put all of the blame for both companies failure on the management, much of the failure is due to the Ipods and the rest of the competition that blindsided everyone.

BUT the management has to take some of the blame, early on they both spent money like drunken sailors. It was like an ego thing between both companies to see which one had the biggest d*&k, and that macho, ego trip is a big reason neither will survive.

CoreyM
02-10-09, 01:45 AM
Stern's contract was a good part of Sirius's debt, but not the only part. Sirius pissed a lot money away, so did XM.
Its not Stern's contract per se, its the floodgates that it opened for both sides. Stern upped the asking price for everybody else negotiating exclusive talent. Also without Stern, Sirius probably would have never been a threat to XM and some of the talent would have never even been signed at any cost.

AbMagFab
02-10-09, 01:41 PM
Its not Stern's contract per se, its the floodgates that it opened for both sides. Stern upped the asking price for everybody else negotiating exclusive talent. Also without Stern, Sirius probably would have never been a threat to XM and some of the talent would have never even been signed at any cost.

$500M = $100M/year = ~1M subscribers. If Stern got one million subscribers over five years (or any combination), then he paid for himself.

I don't think anyone argues that at least 1M of the Sirius subscribers joined (and stayed) because of Stern.

Therefore, his deal was smart. He paid for himself, and then some. It's all the other debt that's at issue, and the overall negative cash flow (which is amazing given that the combined company takis in about $2B/year in cash from subscribers).

CoreyM
02-10-09, 02:40 PM
$500M = $100M/year = ~1M subscribers. If Stern got one million subscribers over five years (or any combination), then he paid for himself.

I don't think anyone argues that at least 1M of the Sirius subscribers joined (and stayed) because of Stern.

Therefore, his deal was smart. He paid for himself, and then some. It's all the other debt that's at issue, and the overall negative cash flow (which is amazing given that the combined company takis in about $2B/year in cash from subscribers).
As I said, it wasn't Stern's contract itself, it was that Stern's contract became the base point for other lavish exclusivity deals for both companies and enabled potential content providers to play them into fierce bidding wars even before Sirius had established itself as a credible competitor to XM. The NFL deal is one of the hurdles Sirius is trying to overcome in the next few months.

Also, since Stern's contract was largely up front the math doesn't work out quite as simple because there is opportunity cost and interest that isn't reflected. Stern is believed to be paid off in full at this point but he's only been on for 3 years. If he was just getting $100mil each year that would be one thing, but that's not how it worked so instead they are behind with other debtors. You also assume that everyone is paying full price which clearly hasn't been the case for a while now. Nor do you account for variable costs that rise with the subscriber count - music licensing for example.

Auditor_Kevin
02-10-09, 04:26 PM
As I said, it wasn't Stern's contract itself, it was that Stern's contract became the base point for other lavish exclusivity deals for both companies and enabled potential content providers to play them into fierce bidding wars even before Sirius had established itself as a credible competitor to XM. .

Then why not list the exclusivity deals that did NOT pay for themselves as the reasons why SXM is losing so much money?

It was impossible for Stern to drive up the price on other talent. That's not his fault, it's the executives that grossly over-estimated the amount of people that would sign up specifically for THAT exclusive deal (NFL, Martha, Oprah, whatever).

barbie845
02-10-09, 04:47 PM
Then why not list the exclusivity deals that did NOT pay for themselves as the reasons why SXM is losing so much money?

It was impossible for Stern to drive up the price on other talent. That's not his fault, it's the executives that grossly over-estimated the amount of people that would sign up specifically for THAT exclusive deal (NFL, Martha, Oprah, whatever).

I think he's saying the Stern signing started a bidding war between XM and Sirius. Which has some truth to it..

Whether you believe Stern paid for himself or not the $100 mil per year was much higher then Sirius needed to pay for him. He wasn't going back to FM, XM only offered him 30 mil per year, and with Mel( a long time friend of Stern) going to Sirius Stern was definitely going to Sirius anyway. So why they paid 500 mil for him is a fair question.

But Sirius 1st high price signing was actually the NFL. Then XM started talks with the MLB, which didn't go anywhere. But then when it was rumored Sirius might sign Stern XM doubled their effort to get the MLB, who they paid 700 million for, aka they overpaid for the MLB too.

Thus the bidding war had begun.

CoreyM
02-10-09, 05:28 PM
It was impossible for Stern to drive up the price on other talent. That's not his fault, it's the executives that grossly over-estimated the amount of people that would sign up specifically for THAT exclusive deal (NFL, Martha, Oprah, whatever).
Which is precisely why I said Howard Stern's signing is what lead to the probable demise of SatRad, not Howard Stern himself. I've given him all the credit in the world for making Sirius a player.

fastl
02-10-09, 07:35 PM
...From what I'm reading XM's satellites can be re-programmed for video and HD, Sirius's sats can not....

Not sure why that would be the case. They are both "bent pipe" systems, which means that they convert the X-band RF uplink signal from the ground station to S-band RF and send it down to the ground. All channel coding is done at either Sirius/XM headquarters. I'll check into Sirius system to see if there are quirks. The Sirius satellite transponders actually have wider bandwidth than XM's.

barbie845
02-10-09, 08:03 PM
...From what I'm reading XM's satellites can be re-programmed for video and HD, Sirius's sats can not....

Not sure why that would be the case. They are both "bent pipe" systems, which means that they convert the X-band RF uplink signal from the ground station to S-band RF and send it down to the ground. All channel coding is done at either Sirius/XM headquarters. I'll check into Sirius system to see if there are quirks. The Sirius satellite transponders actually have wider bandwidth than XM's.

I'm just parroting what I've been reading.. XM's birds are newer, and stationary, and they can be re-programmed. .

There's been all sorts of rumors as to why Echostar would want SXM, from using XM's birds for HD, to using sat radio's bandwidth for WiFi, to needing the ground repeaters, to dumping all the audio and using SXM's equipment for mobile video.

I don't know what's true, what's not true. Or if any of it is even possible.

barbie845
02-11-09, 07:35 AM
This was posted in another thread here. And this is what I read a few days ago..

Kaufman Bros. analyst Todd Mitchell this morning noted in a research piece that the Sirius and XM satellite distribution platforms are largely duplicative. Mitchell says the Sirius platform is highly specialized for satellite radio, but that the XM platform is “basically relatively generic,” with “Boeing workhorse satellites in very strategic orbits.” Mitchell says the XM satellites could be re-purposed “for any number of things,” including incremental HD capacity for the DISH Network.

BTW...As a side not last night Muzak, the elevator music people filed for bankruptcy.

lvovsky
02-11-09, 07:17 PM
there is a report today of "possible" bankruptcy filing: Link (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sirius-xm-shares-drop-50/story.aspx?guid={685C969D-24D6-48A9-8782-4CFBD6D46D78}&dist=msr_15)



i wonder if instead of ranting on forums, we would send complains (hard copy) to executives, would anything change?

fastl
02-11-09, 08:18 PM
I've lost track of the number of times that industry "experts" claimed XM was going out of business and it never happened. Also, don't forget that the NAB types are perpetually broadcasting FUD about the satellite radio business, in general.

Regarding the financial analyst's technical theories, I think he is all wet. Both satellite systems can be repurposed. Problem is that the FCC allocated those two spectrum slots specifically for "mobile radio" broadcasting. You can't just come along and decide you want to re-use them for something else.