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Getting ready to make another sub purchase and was wondering if anyone has had issues with their cats using the grills as a scratching post or casuing any damage to their forward firing subs.
My girlfriend and I recently moved in together and we now have two cats. I have been on the fences about this for awhile and thought I would ask other members who are cat owners.
I have been primarily focusing on downward firing subs for this reason.
Thanks for any input.
I have a cat and it claws on furniture and other stuff around the house. My home theater is in a separate room and I close the door when leaving the room to avoid having the cat claw at the speakers. Cats will and can claw on speakers, especially the grill as it provides something to "cling" on.
My suggestion is unless you have your home theater in a separate room, keep the claws blunt by clipping them frequently.
SlowcarIX 02-09-09, 04:26 PM if you have sub with big ports, cat will go in!
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freshane 02-09-09, 04:34 PM Cats don't use my klipsch speakers as scratch posts. I also have a pb13.. I think if I left the metal grill off they would probably go inside of it. It really depends on the cat I guess.
ppomerantz 02-09-09, 04:52 PM if you have sub with big ports, cat will go in!
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Trip wire connected to a Super Soaker will cure that problem.
I lost an Infinity Emit Tweeter to one of my cats a while back. He'd come racing into the living room and run right up the grill of my RS IIIB. Ribbon Tweeters and Cats definitely do not mix.
JBLsound4645 02-09-09, 05:02 PM Nothing beats my, Sooty he’s a JBL sub bass cat, he’ll shoot in though the port hole and then crawl back out.:D
Last month he took a lousy jump off the TV, and broken his rear right leg :( and I’m gutted. He’s slowly recovering and it’s still too early to tell if he’ll have nerve damage or make a full recovery.
At present he’s cage rested to prevent him from running around and leaping off TV sets. He won’t be crawling in though the 4 inch port hole anymore. By the time he’s recovered and can be allowed out of the cage by orders of the vet, he would have grown slightly bigger and wouldn’t be able to fit though it.
As for clawing he doesn’t get a chance until I make a loud HISS sound and he backs away.
It got to point around December where he was in and out of the JBL 4645 sub like a yoyo! So I temporally blocked off all access.
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castaño 02-09-09, 05:07 PM Because that I prefer down Firing subwoofers... Like the Rythmik D15SE (sealed) or the Outlaw LFM-1 / LFM-1 EX (vented).
Bye
Depends on the cat.
My cats never touched my speakers or old JBL front firing sub's speaker fabric in my living room setup. They also don't touch the GoM fabric on my HT screen wall.
Some subs (like the SVS front firing models) have options for metal grills as well.
rick240 02-09-09, 05:30 PM Trip wire connected to a Super Soaker will cure that problem.
I lost an Infinity Emit Tweeter to one of my cats a while back. He'd come racing into the living room and run right up the grill of my RS IIIB. Ribbon Tweeters and Cats definitely do not mix.
For those who missed it, there was a great thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1117206&highlight=cat) started in the speakers area referencing a proximity triggered spray can.
JBLsound4645 02-09-09, 06:09 PM I might look-into thus product to keep my Sooty from jumping up onto speakers or TV sets and jumping off. My cat is an indoors cat.
http://www.ssscat.com/english/index.html
I guess it must be inferred beam or other that then triggers off the spray.
sourbeef 02-09-09, 07:29 PM I recommend not getting a SVS cylinder sub in that case. It would be far too tempting as a scratching post ;)
psilo357 02-09-09, 09:11 PM I might look-into thus product to keep my Sooty from jumping up onto speakers or TV sets and jumping off. My cat is an indoors cat.
http://www.ssscat.com/english/index.html
I guess it must be inferred beam or other that then triggers off the spray.
I got some great laughs from the videos on that link...thanks for that.
2 cats seem alot. You might want to get rid of one and cut the nails for another one.
crOwcaine 02-09-09, 09:39 PM http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L6FTGO7L
I don't know how to host pics. Here's liltte Amy Winehouse on the 850, the sub is her hopping stool though.
darthray 02-09-09, 10:51 PM 2 cats seem alot. You might want to get rid of one and cut the nails for another one.:(
I disagree. A single cat will get bored and will brake things, just to like you know he is unhappy.
Since I got my second one. The house is safe:).
Anyhow, all mine speakers and subs don't have a grills and my boys don't touch them except to sleep on top of them:D (a grill do look like a scratching post).
Ray
lightguy 02-09-09, 10:59 PM if you have sub with big ports, cat will go in!
Turn it on !
Once.
Problem solved.
SlowcarIX 02-09-09, 11:20 PM Turn it on !
Once.
Problem solved.
are you thinking what i am? :o
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Best subject line ever. Great pics from the cat lovers too. I'm surprised no one has been meany cat and said: get rid o the cats! Hey they are family right? I am a bit worried about my 2 year old as well, messing w voume etc, but at least he wont crawl thru the ports. I think...
I have 4 cats (rescued strays) and I am always "hissing' at them if I catch them staring at my subs.
If they damage my subs I will just have to buy another one.
I love the cats more than the subwoofers (and that's saying a lot, because I really love the subwoofers :) )
JBLsound4645 02-10-09, 08:52 AM Subs are replaceable items cats are not!
localnet 02-10-09, 08:54 AM Take it to the vet and have em de-clawed. I just got my cat back, she was a little sore for a few days, but is pretty much back to her old self.
I rescued her from a truck stop. She rode around with me for 3 days before I could get her to the vet back home. She was not given much of a chance to survive, but we nursed her back.
But, she likes to use those claws, and I have an SVS scratching post. So, it was either off to the pound or off with the claws.
Here she is on the day of rescue.
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Here she is in her natural state.
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JBLsound4645 02-10-09, 09:03 AM Nice cat are you sure she’s a she?
In England, de-clawed is illegal, you‘ll get sent to prison. Taking a cats claws away is like someone taking your subs off you. You have to tolerate it!
I get scratched when playing with my cat and I take it like a man not some wimp. Such a cat can dig the claws in deep and give you NASTY one!
Just keep the cat outside of the home theatre basement thing its that simple!
Cat like ceramic bowls and plastic kitty litter try doesn’t cost much. I used a temporary cardboard box as litter try until I had the money to buy the proper facilities for my kitten.
Sooty caged rested while his leg heals.
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Gelinas 02-10-09, 09:20 AM Personally, I think it depends on the individual cat. My parents have a cat who is perfectly happy inside their house 24/7. She has been outside a few times but got scared and hated it. For a cat like her who would prefer to live inside I don't see any issue with de-clawing the cat. I understand that there is pain associated with the surgery but it only lasts a few days. This is worth it for some cat owners as it creates a lifetime of enjoyment for them.
In contrast, I personally used to have a cat. When I first got her I was hoping to make her an inside cat like my parents'. But it did not work out. She was a rescue and had lots of experience outside. So despite my preference to keep her inside, I let her come and go as she pleased. She is an example of a cat that should not be de-clawed.
I think cats that have a strong desire to go outside should be allowed to do so and should not be de-clawed. On the flip-side, if a cat has a strong desire to never go outside, then it can improve the quality of life for both the cat owner and the cat itself it it is declawed.
What's worse, declawing a cat that wants to stay inside 24/7 or not declawing a cat who wants to go outside but keeping it inside 24/7
JBLsound4645 02-10-09, 09:29 AM Why do some people consider having a cat declawed cruelty to animals?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_some_people_consider_having_a_cat_declawed_cruelty_to _animals
Reading though wiki.answers as made me very angry!:mad:
Anyway you slice it its wicked to have cats’ claws taken away! I say damn you and your silly sub bass speakers! :mad: That’s all you lot ever care about! Get a life!:mad:
My cat doesn’t do any harm to speakers so you lot must be doing something seriously wrong!
I have two friends that have cats and they don’t claw the speakers apart. Sigh
scubie02 02-10-09, 12:22 PM well, we still live in a semi free country, where we can own firearms, declaw our cats, sometimes not be under video surveillance...
I think it depends on the cat--some are big claw-ers, some are not. I partially got my Outlaw to remove any temptation, so now I just have to wipe pawprints off the top a couple times a day...
That having been said, they MOSTLY left my old sub alone, but it had a couple little digs. You just never know, they might leave it alone for years then have one of those tear around the house moments. Price of pet ownership I suppose. I just laid out a couple thousand in dental bills after my dog head butted me while playing hard enough to make me see stars and kill a nerve in my one tooth, so I had to have a root canal and will likely have to have a crown down the road--still love the dog though!
As far as how horrible it is--I had two cats for a LONG time (the second just passed at age 19) that I ended up having declawed when I moved when they were young and the only apartment I could find that would allow me to keep them would do so only if I had them declawed. I had to keep them under a baby crib to keep them from tearing around and potentially ripping the stitches and they acted like they had no idea anything had been done from the first. Now, I felt bad at the time, but damn I have to say it was nice over the years. I've not had my present cats done, but when I look at my shredded furniture I sometimes still consider it...*sigh*
localnet 02-10-09, 12:22 PM Why do some people consider having a cat declawed cruelty to animals?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_some_people_consider_having_a_cat_declawed_cruelty_to _animals
Reading though wiki.answers as made me very angry!:mad:
Anyway you slice it its wicked to have cats’ claws taken away! I say damn you and your silly sub bass speakers! :mad: That’s all you lot ever care about! Get a life!:mad:
My cat doesn’t do any harm to speakers so you lot must be doing something seriously wrong!
I have two friends that have cats and they don’t claw the speakers apart. Sigh
Touchy aren't we?
Lets see, my little kitty is an indoors cat, wants nothing to do with the outdoors and has two Shelties to play with, and they do.
To date, she has destroyed an Italian leather recliner, door moldings, wainscoting, select comfort mattress base, a couch, a number of rugs, lamp shades, wood table legs, kitchen cabinet door where her treats are kept and a few more items. And I kept her out of the room where the SVS is kept, as that was not the issue, the rest of the house and furnishings were.
So...
It was to the pound or de-claw her. She is a good cat other than CLAWING. She is very loving, loves to sit and curl up in ones lap, etc. I could not see putting her down, because that is what would have more than likely have happened if taken to the pound.
It was the claws or death, seemed like an easy choice. Granted, the pound would have been cheaper. But me and the wife like the cat, and have worked very hard to furnish our house.
Mike
And on edit, I only had the front claws removed, she still has her back ones.
milkfat 02-10-09, 12:38 PM Why do some people consider having a cat declawed cruelty to animals?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_some_people_consider_having_a_cat_declawed_cruelty_to _animals
Reading though wiki.answers as made me very angry!:mad:
Anyway you slice it its wicked to have cats’ claws taken away! I say damn you and your silly sub bass speakers! :mad: That’s all you lot ever care about! Get a life!:mad:
My cat doesn’t do any harm to speakers so you lot must be doing something seriously wrong!
I have two friends that have cats and they don’t claw the speakers apart. Sigh
Did you happen to click through to the "Declawing is not cruel" link at the bottom of your wiki.answers article?
http://www.geocities.com/declawing/
Maybe it isn't the best idea to be damning people because of a single article you read:confused:. My own cats aren't declawed, but if another owner wants to declaw their own cat in order to provide a good home then perhaps that's for the best. As long as the veterinarian is chosen carefully and care is given during the healing period then there are much worse alternatives.
I myself have a piano black, down-firing, sealed sub that the cats and kids can't harm.
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Does your cat actually stay in there when the sub is on??? :eek:
If so, that is one bad ass cat.
JBLsound4645 02-10-09, 01:44 PM Does your cat actually stay in there when the sub is on??? :eek:
If so, that is one bad ass cat.
Hell no! I hit the panic button to mute the sub!! Then get his little toy the BUG wave it around and throw the BUG on the sofa. Sooty then casually crawls out though the port and pounces onto the sofa to tackle the BUG!
He's a little bugger he is and I love him.:)
Also if you care to notice the green lead is disconnected from the mixer on the far right side of it. I think I was doing some waterfalls of Independence Day as the monitor lead is plugged into the output used for the LFE.1, also its in OFF mode so I guess I was getting readying to record or just finished?
JBLsound4645 02-10-09, 01:52 PM Did you happen to click through to the "Declawing is not cruel" link at the bottom of your wiki.answers article?
http://www.geocities.com/declawing/
Maybe it isn't the best idea to be damning people because of a single article you read:confused:. My own cats aren't declawed, but if another owner wants to declaw their own cat in order to provide a good home then perhaps that's for the best. As long as the veterinarian is chosen carefully and care is given during the healing period then there are much worse alternatives.
I myself have a piano black, down-firing, sealed sub that the cats and kids can't harm.
I’m very sensitive and get very and upset when I start reading about cat De-clawing.:(
rboster 02-10-09, 03:26 PM Why do some people consider having a cat declawed cruelty to animals?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_some_people_consider_having_a_cat_declawed_cruelty_to _animals
Reading though wiki.answers as made me very angry!:mad:
Anyway you slice it its wicked to have cats’ claws taken away! I say damn you and your silly sub bass speakers! :mad: That’s all you lot ever care about! Get a life!:mad:
My cat doesn’t do any harm to speakers so you lot must be doing something seriously wrong!
I have two friends that have cats and they don’t claw the speakers apart. Sigh
Please learn to control your angry outbursts or you maybe asked to leave.
snownut 02-10-09, 04:44 PM I've always declawed my cats and always will. Don't see the big deal but everyone has their own idea. These are also indoor cats. For me, I just respect other peoples views.
darthray 02-10-09, 09:32 PM I have 4 cats (rescued strays) and I am always "hissing' at them if I catch them staring at my subs.
If they damage my subs I will just have to buy another one.
I love the cats more than the subwoofers (and that's saying a lot, because I really love the subwoofers )
My 2 are also rescue sprays and agree with you. I can replace my subs, but my 2 boys Cannot be replace.
They are declays. Inside cats only. In the long run, better for us and them. But not something you/I want to go through again.
Ray
cylonsix 02-11-09, 09:45 PM I have 3 cats & 2 diffrent Subs one Down firing & then one Front firing (both JBL's). For the front firing one, one cat is too fat to get too the sub, for the other 2 cats the only problem is they like to rub against the Sub & then they get cat hair all over that Sub + I try to keep the door to that room closed. For the Down firing one (in a diffrent room), the only problem is when a toy goes under the Sub & they try to get it out.
I just picked up a cat and it seems to really irritate me when it comes to my home theater. It has already scratched my $2500 leather theater chairs and its off with the claws, or the cat goes. I really am a dog lover and this cat thing is a LOT different.
The way I view it is that I have animals living in my home, it is not reasonable (or fair) to expect them to always behave in a way that makes me happy.
Whatever they do comes back to the fact that (a) they are animals and (b) I have brought them into my home.
I get very angry when I see someone hurt an animal because the animal was "bad". Those people are idiots, and if they take it too far, I will not hesitate to smash them.
Sharp1080 02-12-09, 09:36 PM I just picked up a cat and it seems to really irritate me when it comes to my home theater. It has already scratched my $2500 leather theater chairs and its off with the claws, or the cat goes. I really am a dog lover and this cat thing is a LOT different.
Sticky tape that's removable on the sides of the theater chairs and buy scratching posts and place them near the leather chairs. When the Cat scrathes on the post instead of the chair give it a treat when you first notice it. It takes awhile but start moving the posts away from the chair to a place where the Cat still scratches the post but not the furniture. Oh by the way get the posts with rope in the middle they work better and last longer!;)
psilo357 02-12-09, 10:16 PM I've always declawed my cats and always will. Don't see the big deal but everyone has their own idea. These are also indoor cats. For me, I just respect other peoples views.
There is no 'idea' about it. Getting your cats declawed is wrong. It is the equivalent of removing the last segment of your fingers, past the final joint. Cats claws are connected to their BONES, not just skin, so its really not like removing our fingernail, more like removing the last segment of your fingers entirely.
Personally, if you can't stand owning a cat as it is, then don't own a cat at all. Cats come with claws, prepare deal with it, or choose not to own a cat from the get go...I wonder if their are any vets that would declaw dogs, or if anyone here feels that is also fine to declaw their dogs, or maybe de-beak their birds, since they always bite things and tear small holes in clothing and curtains...
milkfat 02-13-09, 01:38 AM There is no 'idea' about it. Getting your cats declawed is wrong. It is the equivalent of removing the last segment of your fingers, past the final joint. Cats claws are connected to their BONES, not just skin, so its really not like removing our fingernail, more like removing the last segment of your fingers entirely.
Are you against spaying and neutering animals? Neutering an animal involves removing the BALLS!!! That would be like removing your balls entirely.
I wasn't really going anywhere with that... I just wanted to say balls in all caps.
kaiservt 02-13-09, 07:45 AM I had a problem with my girlfriend's cats clawing at my speaker grills. I bought an inexpensive rope scratching post and put it right in front of the "offending" speaker. The post in front of the speaker was annoying to look at, but it worked. After the cat "got the idea", I started to move the post away from the speaker a little bit every day. At this point the scratching post is about two feet from the speaker and I have not seen any further damage. Try it out!
SlowcarIX 02-13-09, 09:23 AM how did you get the cat to "change" attention from speaker grill to scratching post??
ronnielee54 02-13-09, 04:30 PM Are you against spaying and neutering animals? Neutering an animal involves removing the BALLS!!! That would be like removing your balls entirely.
I wasn't really going anywhere with that... I just wanted to say balls in all caps.
LMFAO
My cats are welcome in my home, but I am not going to be an idiot and let them destroy it. It is okay to remove the front claws (did it to both of my cats) but never remove both front and rear claws. If they ever do get out accidently, they can still climb with the rears if need be.
Thirsty 02-13-09, 05:20 PM My cat does not go near my speakers. I assume he thinks they are evil and very loud and is very frightened of them.
psilo357 02-13-09, 06:46 PM Are you against spaying and neutering animals? Neutering an animal involves removing the BALLS!!! That would be like removing your balls entirely.
I wasn't really going anywhere with that... I just wanted to say balls in all caps.
Spaying and neutering helps control the overpopulation problem. Declawing helps solve the problem of 'protecting your precious stuff'...great analogy you have there.
ResIpsa 02-13-09, 07:46 PM I like cats, I had cats my whole life growing up.
Recently, within the past few months say, I was "forced" to adopt my brother and sister in law's one cat.
I didn't want the cat, but the alternative to my agreeing to take it was something that was completely unacceptable to me.
They live in a Lincoln Log type home in the mountains, and the cat was allowed basically to scratch wherever she felt like it. I've been trying ever since she moved in to get her to stop scratching the couches, but she is a sneaky little bugger. Repellent sprays, tape, none of that works because she simply goes to an area of the couch where there is no tape and scratches there:rolleyes:
After several months of frustration, she has forced me, as unhappy as it makes me
to learn to live with it.:)
milkfat 02-13-09, 08:08 PM Spaying and neutering helps control the overpopulation problem. Declawing helps solve the problem of 'protecting your precious stuff'...great analogy you have there.
Thank you. :) I am known for my infallible analogies.
Declawing helps to ease the overpopulation problem by allowing people who wish to protect their precious stuff to adopt a cat.
deyo666 02-13-09, 08:51 PM Getting ready to make another sub purchase and was wondering if anyone has had issues with their cats using the grills as a scratching post or casuing any damage to their forward firing subs.
My girlfriend and I recently moved in together and we now have two cats. I have been on the fences about this for awhile and thought I would ask other members who are cat owners.
I have been primarily focusing on downward firing subs for this reason.
Thanks for any input.
Well the easiest answer is 1....have it up sooo loody loud that they cant get near it or......
2....or....are you really wanting to go this route or not....? if soo here we gooo....
Go to the local DIY store and get a anti-cat sensor that is movement detected....then via the IR or MS mount this above the equipment in a circular area that covers it....you or your cat loving misses cant hear it as it too high on the Hz...freq for humans to respond to...the cats will know you got the last laugh...your missues and you....well only you can tell the story from then on in...good luck pal...and learn one thing....the cats are 1 thing....WAIT for the kids!!! NO MUSIC....NO LIFE....NO XBOX....NO NOTHIG....do or die pal....good luck...there are other ways....:)
deyo666 02-13-09, 08:53 PM Please learn to control your angry outbursts or you maybe asked to leave.
We arnt all pussy cats..................:confused:
lightguy 02-14-09, 10:15 PM I would have had my cat declawed if she weren't such an outdoors lover. I live on 2 wooded acres and have occasional stray cats, dogs, possoms and other critters come by. She needs her weapons. It has cost us big bucks in furniture damage however :mad:
The way I see it whats worse ; declaw or euthanization ?
I like the spaying/neutering analogy.
Bone215 02-16-09, 10:12 PM three cats, all declawed, they could care less about their claws or the sub. Feed em and love em and they be happy
if you are going to say declaw is bad but neutering is ok, I am confused at that = you are saying the outcome determines the correctness of what you do to the cat, preventing overpopulation is ok outcome? :rolleyes:
starlite 02-20-09, 05:42 PM It's an interesting discussion, and very relevant to speaker owners. I had my share of issues with my cat using my speakers as scratching posts, but it kinda calmed down after a while. I personally think declawing is not something I would do because as some mentioned, it is actually cutting off a joint of the bone. However, I understand why people would choose to do it.
My cat is a funny one (she is a Bengal cat), who does enjoy playing with water and likes to fetch. Spraying water or air never worked, and her wild side draws her to speakers especially when it was making sound. She actually attacked the speaker multiple times when they were on. Maybe a territory protection mechanism, I guess. I just tried to be patient and talked to her with an angry face whenever she scratched the speaker grill, and after about 3 months, she stopped doing it. Well it was way after my old Boston Acoustics speaker grills were torn apart, but now I moved them to living room for music duty without the grill on.
I do choose exclusively downfiring subs because of her, but I don't think there is a significant difference between a downfiring sub and a frontfiring one. Still time to time, she sticks her paw inside the port when the sub is running, but she is too big to crawl in there.
Now whenever my wife and I watch a movie, she actually watches it with us sitting right next to us. I guess she learned how to appreciate a nice home theater system... :D
To all the cat owners, just hang in there with patience, and your cat will learn how to get along with speakers. :)
JBLsound4645 02-20-09, 06:03 PM There is no 'idea' about it. Getting your cats declawed is wrong. It is the equivalent of removing the last segment of your fingers, past the final joint. Cats claws are connected to their BONES, not just skin, so its really not like removing our fingernail, more like removing the last segment of your fingers entirely.
Personally, if you can't stand owning a cat as it is, then don't own a cat at all. Cats come with claws, prepare deal with it, or choose not to own a cat from the get go...I wonder if their are any vets that would declaw dogs, or if anyone here feels that is also fine to declaw their dogs, or maybe de-beak their birds, since they always bite things and tear small holes in clothing and curtains...
You made a rather simple fact that is don’t own a pet if you can’t control it, I agree that ripping out its claws is very wrong.
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