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Howry
02-10-09, 11:27 PM
Im debating where to setup my rear speakers. My front speakers will be 10 feet in front of me but my rear speakers are set to be about 13 feet behind me. Is this to far? Based on my house design I have a wall of windows and very little place to mount a speaker any closer.

My second option is to mount the rear left hand speaker right at the corner of my couch so it will be shooting right into the back of my head where as the right speaker would be quite a bit farther away but basically hit me from the side rather then behind.

Please take a look at my diagram. I guess my main question will be, is having the rear speakers farther back then the fronts cause a sound issue? I dont want to run the wire and have it not sounding right.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f77/troytroytroy/surround.jpg

Howry
02-11-09, 07:43 PM
Bump,

My assumption is this is to far back for 5.1?

jostenmeat
02-11-09, 08:09 PM
I almost never recommend in-ceilings, but in this case I would consider it. I would go 5.1 here.

There are a few reasons I don't think 7.1 would be worth it. The rear envelopment is nice, but 13 ft is pretty far away I think for rears. And if anyone is hanging out at that table, the rare and random high levels (necessitated by distance) could be annoying there. I guess I'm just thinking the benefits might not be worth the cost, nor any sacrifice in looks/WAF.

Also, your side surrounds are most likely going to be behind you, anyways. in a 5.1 setting, the common rec is 110-135 degrees, but in 7.1, you would be given more freedom in having the sides at a right angle. You don't seem to benefit in this regard with 7.1 here.

The sides are going to be too darned close to head, or the rears near there as well. This is another reason why I think in-ceilings might be a good idea . . .

YMMV, gl!

Derko
02-11-09, 08:31 PM
I was under the impression that in a 5.1 set up, you should have your surrounds at 90-110 degrees? Am I wrong?

Also he never mentions anything about 7.1. So yes, for a 5.1 set up, I think it is way too far. Plus from what I understand, they should beside you and not behind you. Like the poster above mentioned, in a 7.1 set up, REARS, not surrounds, go directly behind you.

Take a look at this link for some 5.1 placement tips. (http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/roomlayout2.html)

If you consider making the sweet spot in the middle where the TV is on the couch, then it might work out best... Can you move the couch off the wall and center it more with the TV?

jostenmeat
02-11-09, 08:39 PM
Doh, you're right, I was presuming 7.1 with rears at that great of an angle. Hmm.

Yes, I've read 110-135 with 5.1, and I can't remember if that's straight from Dolby or not. 90-110 would seem to be a good range for sides in a 7.1.

Howry
02-12-09, 01:27 AM
First, thanks for the replies.

It could eventually turn into a 7.1 but will start out 5.1 just because I dont have the speakers or money to go 7.1 right now. I had read the placement listing for 5.1 speakers but my concern with having them closer to the suggested placement was that one would be firing right into the side of our heads while the other would be 5 feet or so away off to the side and slightly back and I wasnt sure if that would work. Odd angles stink. =)

Ceiling speakers are out of the question as are in walls. The long wall is covered by windows leaving me about a 2 foot section to mount anything. I suppose this would be my best setup then down the road if/when i turn it into a 7.1 mount the rears where I had them in my original diagram?

Thanks again.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f77/troytroytroy/surround1-1.jpg

Derko
02-12-09, 03:59 AM
Well, why does the speaker have to be on the piano? Can't you get a speaker stand and put it right beside the couch so that they are equally distanced? What about pulling the couch off the wall a bit, centering it more in front of the TV, so that it's not firing right on top of you and you have a little breathing room?

Espo77
02-12-09, 09:17 AM
Im debating where to setup my rear speakers. My front speakers will be 10 feet in front of me but my rear speakers are set to be about 13 feet behind me. Is this to far? Based on my house design I have a wall of windows and very little place to mount a speaker any closer.

My second option is to mount the rear left hand speaker right at the corner of my couch so it will be shooting right into the back of my head where as the right speaker would be quite a bit farther away but basically hit me from the side rather then behind.

Please take a look at my diagram. I guess my main question will be, is having the rear speakers farther back then the fronts cause a sound issue? I dont want to run the wire and have it not sounding right.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f77/troytroytroy/surround.jpg

I was first thinking of surrounds stand mounted in the "proper" place at the rear corner area of the sofa,(which would probably be the choice location for people who enjoy multichannel music). If you place them as shown in your diagram, you would measure from each surround to the sofa, which would obviously be a few more feet than the thirteen shown in the diagram, because of their high location. The difference from the sofa to the front speakers vs. the difference from the sofa to the surrounds might be about five feet. So a five millisecond delay would be set on the fronts, so that the sound from all spkrs would reach the listening area at the same time. That is what the adjustment is there for isn't it?

Howry
02-12-09, 06:51 PM
"Well, why does the speaker have to be on the piano? Can't you get a speaker stand and put it right beside the couch so that they are equally distanced? What about pulling the couch off the wall a bit, centering it more in front of the TV, so that it's not firing right on top of you and you have a little breathing room?"

I wish that were an option, we have a 3 year old and another due soon so with little kids running around it makes it a little more dangerous. =) Im going to work the wife on moving the couch out some from the wall to even things out. Will keep at it. But will eliminate the 13 feet behind.

Appreciate the info =)

Derko
02-13-09, 03:23 PM
Well, with whatever you decide, hope it works out!

I was thinking that maybe you could look into having a way of getting the speakers on the stands so they are not movable and then some how make the stands very hard too move too... :confused: