It has been sooooooo long ago, but if I remember correctly the foam is on, around, and over the can lights and the pink stuff is just around the lights but not over them. That is only because the can lights are deeper than the insulation I put in.

What brand is the can lights your using? Could you go to the manufactures web site to see what they recommend? Might be your best bet and alleviate some of your fears.

Regards,

RTROSE

Good idea but I actually stumbled upon an even better idea........look at the packaging they came i :o:o

The box reads: Can be covered up with insulation!

This scares me still because they do get a little warm. I have 65w flood bulbs in them but i dont know

Anyone have any input on this subject? Again to recap. The box the cans came in says "can be covered with insulation" and they ARE IC rated cans. Can I completely cover them with insulation batts and also can I run insulation directly up to the edges of them? What have you done in your basement ceilings when it comes to this situation??

I've always bought the IC cans (Halo) because they can come in direct contact with loose filll or batt insulation and only cost a few cents more than the non-IC cans. In fact, I was told years ago that the IC actually means "in contact." And I've always used 65W minimum .

I've always bought the IC cans (Halo) because they can come in direct contact with loose filll or batt insulation and only cost a few cents more than the non-IC cans. In fact, I was told years ago that the IC actually means "in contact." And I've always used 65W minimum .

Thanks for the input. I went with 6" IC cans from Lowes (Juno brand) and they state "can be covered with insulation" but while down there (hanging insulation) and having the lights on for a few hours they do get quite warm so I am a little nervous.

Iusteve just saw you in the screen thread and had to come over and see your thread build glad to see you keeping on!!

Hey Steve

I understand your hesitancy in covering your can lights, but IC cans are designed to handle it.

I run 100w floods in mine and have had no problems. (Maybe because they were water cooled:p) If you are only using 65w bulbs, there really shouldn't be an issue.

Pete

Hey Steve

I understand your hesitancy in covering your can lights, but IC cans are designed to handle it.

I run 100w floods in mine and have had no problems. (Maybe because they were water cooled:p) If you are only using 65w bulbs, there really shouldn't be an issue.

Pete

I definitely am hesitant to cover them. With the 65w bulbs in them they get rather warm for sure. Did you pack insulation on "all" sides as well as the top of your cans? The 4" cans are not a problem only the 6" ones.

I definitely am hesitant to cover them. With the 65w bulbs in them they get rather warm for sure. Did you pack insulation on "all" sides as well as the top of your cans? The 4" cans are not a problem only the 6" ones.

I cut out a pocket so the can fit into the hole and was covered on all sides.

Not sure if that's the way contractors do it or not?

I cut out a pocket so the can fit into the hole and was covered on all sides.

Not sure if that's the way contractors do it or not?

Not sure either. I had the lights installed then and now putting up insulation and trying to make a final decision on how I am going to do it.

IUSteve,

On Cans Lights and Safety:

My ceilings have been finished now for ~2years.
I have 11 - 6" IC rated cans with 65w floods in direct contact with lots of pink fluffy stuff - no concerns at all. ALso 4 - 4" cans with slightly smaller bulbs no problem there either.

In fact one night I got "overserved" and went upstairs to go to bed leaving all the basement lites on - still no issues. However; tons of $#it from my lovely wife. The lesson I learned, sleep in the basement, it might be your safest option

IUSteve,

On Cans Lights and Safety:

My ceilings have been finished now for ~2years.
I have 11 - 6" IC rated cans with 65w floods in direct contact with lots of pink fluffy stuff - no concerns at all. ALso 4 - 4" cans with slightly smaller bulbs no problem there either.

In fact one night I got "overserved" and went upstairs to go to bed leaving all the basement lites on - still no issues. However; tons of $#it from my lovely wife. The lesson I learned, sleep in the basement, it might be your safest option


Unless your IC cans catch fire blocking your only way out! :eek:

J/K of course. Put your can lights in already. They are rated to go in/out/under/over all that fluffy pink stuff.

In all seriousness though I do understand your concern for safety and all, your family's well being is your primary concern I'm sure. Install per the manufacturer's recommendations and follow the operating guide lines (proper wattage bulbs etc,) and you should have no issues.

Maybe you can detail your can light installation in your NEW build thread.

Regards,

RTROSE

IUSteve,


In fact one night I got "overserved" and went upstairs to go to bed leaving all the basement lites on - still no issues. However; tons of $#it from my lovely wife. The lesson I learned, sleep in the basement, it might be your safest option

Ha!! "overserved" Thats awesome. My wife asks me not to come stumbling into bed, just sleep in the bar if I am going to try and "drown my sorrows" :p

Ha!! "overserved" My wife asks me not to come stumbling into bed, just sleep in the bar if I am going to try and "drown my sorrows" :p

beach; tried that and she caved in:
The comment was doesn't make any difference snoring is snoring. Over or Underserved; the only difference is a few db...

beach; tried that and she caved in:
The comment was doesn't make any difference snoring is snoring. Over or Underserved; the only difference is a few db...

When I tried it, she loved that I stayed in the bar! :eek:
but she will usually ask nicely not to over do it before she goes to sleep.
(I think its just cause the bed is colder without me in it;))

good luck on the lights Steve, I am looking into a drop cealing behind the bar and some can lights. Cant wait to see all the ways that dont work! :D J/K

Man o man i neglect my thread for a few days and you kids have taken over. Truly funny stuff and believe me I have thought about sleeping in the basement many times, it often seems easier that way.

On a build related front I will go ahead with the covering of all can lights with the fluffy yellow (in my case, not pink)stuff and go about life with no worries or concerns.

I am considering having drywall hung, taped and mudded by a professional as this is something i dont think I can possibly do and make look good. What can one expect to pay for this service? My room is roughly 24'x13' and a little less than 8' ceilings. Anyone have a ballpark? Also is this suggested by anyone? What did you all do?

Also I am contemplating using something like OC 703 or Rockboard foam panels and fabric treatments for ALL vertical surfaces. Is this a good idea or would it be wiser to save a few pennies and just do a few panels around the room? I am unsure what the benefits are to the stuff, I have just seen it in A LOT of theaters and thought....."there must be something to this or people wouldnt be doing it." So I thought I would ask.

I have also decided on theater #2 (I REALLY need to get around and start that darn new build thread)on not going with Channel or clips for several reasons and am still contemplating the DD/GG method as well. I know its the "right" thing to do but a few factors have almost forced me to go away from it. For example one of the walls is directly under the main beam in the house and the drywall would actually be attached to both the framed wall and the beam (I hope that makes sense). Another reason is one wall when you walk into the room is framed and holds a cold air return and there is only enough space for a single layer of drywall there so I would have a weak point right off the bat. As far as the clips I have afford to loose any ceiling height as I am only at 91" pre-drywall. Part of the reason for this new build was higher ceilings (Vers 1 has drop ceilings) so I dont know that I want to sacrifice anymore. I am still debating DD on the ceiling as well as most walls but we will see.

On the drywall front I was once told that about a dollar per sq ft was the going rate, then I found out that was slightly low estimate on my part, but my drywall guy and I struck a deal both of us could live with. I think I did end up paying just a little more than a buck per sq ft. Of course that was a way back in 09'.

Good to hear that your not sweating over the pink er ah yellow stuff. I am also encouraged that your again talking about the new build thread. I have actually been loosing sleep over it. Now maybe I can rest easier.

Regards,

RTROSE

On the drywall front I was once told that about a dollar per sq ft was the going rate, then I found out that was slightly low estimate on my part, but my drywall guy and I struck a deal both of us could live with. I think I did end up paying just a little more than a buck per sq ft. Of course that was a way back in 09'.

Good to hear that your not sweating over the pink er ah yellow stuff. I am also encouraged that your again talking about the new build thread. I have actually been loosing sleep over it. Now maybe I can rest easier.

Regards,

RTROSE

Well no news on the new build thread but I did get the first drywall guy to stop bye and give me a look and he "rough" quoted me $.92/sq. ft. and $1.05/sq.ft. (primed)including all materials......!! I am going to get one more to stop bye but this seems to be a decent price?!

That sounds pretty good to me. I got a couple of different quotes, but the kicker is one of the quotes was pretty low but the fine print was I basically supplied all of the materials, including new tools for the job, where the guy I had do the work supplied some of the materials, provided all the tools no cost (go figure) and handled all of the scheduling. The cost even included delivery with placement, vital stuff if your doing a basement.

Regards,

RTROSE

That sounds pretty good to me. I got a couple of different quotes, but the kicker is one of the quotes was pretty low but the fine print was I basically supplied all of the materials, including new tools for the job, where the guy I had do the work supplied some of the materials, provided all the tools no cost (go figure) and handled all of the scheduling. The cost even included delivery with placement, vital stuff if your doing a basement.

Regards,

RTROSE

I wont get his "final" quote until tomorrow but his "rough" quote of $.92/sq ft and $1.13/sq ft primed seems solid and that includes drywall, drywall delivered and placed in the basement and all materials/tools. Is the ceiling estimated into the square footage or how do you figure it? My room is 13' x 24' with a few closets etc.

I am considering having drywall hung, taped and mudded by a professional as this is something i dont think I can possibly do and make look good.
Good plan. There have been several threads where the DIY drywall task really slowed things down. Most people said that they started to get good at it just about when they were finished. Those that hired out the drywalling said it was the best money they had spent, since the pros can get a superior job done in just a few days. The only concern is with soundproofing; if you are planning to use clips and/or DD&GG you'll need to be on hand to make sure they do it 'right', since they are unlikely to be in the know when comes to the use of clips and Green Glue.

Also I am contemplating using something like OC 703 or Rockboard foam panels and fabric treatments for ALL vertical surfaces. Is this a good idea or would it be wiser to save a few pennies and just do a few panels around the room? I am unsure what the benefits are to the stuff, I have just seen it in A LOT of theaters and thought....."there must be something to this or people wouldnt be doing it." So I thought I would ask.
The best plan would be to get a pro to design an Acoustic Treatment (AT) plan specific for your room. I know there is a pro working with AVS to provide this service, but I can't remember the details at the moment.

Covering all the vertical surfaces sounds like a mistake, even the theaters that have identical fabric panels covering all the walls don't have AT panels in all of them. Even GPowers didn't use AT panels all the way up. BTW, if you are going with DIY frames, that thread is an excellent source of building info (thread is here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=487747)).

The maximum coverage I have heard of consisted of 2" panels on the front and rear walls (full coverage up front, half height coverage in the back), 1" panels on the side walls (half height coverage), and bass traps in the corners. The half coverage is to prevent the room from sounding too dead (whatever that means). Typically most people use far fewer panels and put them at the first reflection points.

The best plan would be to get a pro to design an Acoustic Treatment (AT) plan specific for your room. I know there is a pro working with AVS to provide this service, but I can't remember the details at the moment.

Covering all the vertical surfaces sounds like a mistake, even the theaters that have identical fabric panels covering all the walls don't have AT panels in all of them. Even GPowers didn't use AT panels all the way up. BTW, if you are going with DIY frames, that thread is an excellent source of building info (thread is here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=487747)).

The maximum coverage I have heard of consisted of 2" panels on the front and rear walls (full coverage up front, half height coverage in the back), 1" panels on the side walls (half height coverage), and bass traps in the corners. The half coverage is to prevent the room from sounding too dead (whatever that means). Typically most people use far fewer panels and put them at the first reflection points.

Yea I have heard some of the same stuff. I wanted to basically cover all the vertical surfaces with fabric and something like oc703 behind them is "some" spots but not sure what I would put behind them in others to make the wall even. I dont want individual panels though. I was thinking furring strips horizontally and vertically and the OC in between then just pull/stretch the fabric and staple to the strips, cover with trim (think chair rail height, crown molding height and baseboard height) and be done.

Good plan. There have been several threads where the DIY drywall task really slowed things down. Most people said that they started to get good at it just about when they were finished. Those that hired out the drywalling said it was the best money they had spent, since the pros can get a superior job done in just a few days. The only concern is with soundproofing; if you are planning to use clips and/or DD&GG you'll need to be on hand to make sure they do it 'right', since they are unlikely to be in the know when comes to the use of clips and Green Glue.

I concur on the drywall strategy. These guys will be done in 3 days or so, when it would take an new person 3x's or more than that! I actually hung my own drywall, but then decided to find someone to do the rest and it was the best money spent. Although smaller jobs around the house or when I remodeled my basement to do the "theater", I did that myself. Anything bigger, farm it out and focus on other things.

Iusteve,

Yeah I agree with what Kezug said. When I started my entire basement build - I went for the most involved room first the bathroom (involved meaning plumbing). Thought it best to get the hardest room out of the way first and save the fun room (HT) for last as a motivational strategy.

Glad I did; because after I dry-walled, taped and mudded, this small room again and again, and again.... I then decided that I would hire out the rest of the drywall - best $$ spent on this project

Thanks for the input guys I appreciate it. The first (and only thus far) guy came back with an estimate around $1800 which included all materials delivered to the basement, hanging, taping, mudding, finishing and priming (1st coat). This seemed a little high in what I considered it would be but maybe not. His price for everything broke down to $.92/sq ft. + $.13/sq ft to prime for a total of $1.05/sq ft. which again included everything.

Now I plan on getting another estimate or two and know I can probably get cheaper considering guy #1 is way over charging me for the actual materials. I can get the drywall for much cheaper and have it hand delivered to the basement for no extra charge but an advantage of guy #1 is that he is like a general contractor in that he will handle everything start to finish and they use a multiple person crew so they should be in and out in a flash.

Just my .02 worth but the square foot cost seems pretty reasonable to me. You you think that the materials cost is too high you could (if you haven't already) ask for an itemized estimate to see the break down of what costs what.

The cost of having the drywall delivered AND placed it well worth it IMO. I had my drywall done as I have stated before and I am so glad I had someone who knows what they are doing do it. Money well spent, and I would not hesitate to higher it done again.

I am interested to see what guy #2 brings to the table as far as an estimate. I would be concerned about going too cheap as you get what you pay for.

Waiting with baited breath.

Regards,

RTROSE

Just my .02 worth but the square foot cost seems pretty reasonable to me. You you think that the materials cost is too high you could (if you haven't already) ask for an itemized estimate to see the break down of what costs what.

The cost of having the drywall delivered AND placed it well worth it IMO. I had my drywall done as I have stated before and I am so glad I had someone who knows what they are doing do it. Money well spent, and I would not hesitate to higher it done again.

I am interested to see what guy #2 brings to the table as far as an estimate. I would be concerned about going too cheap as you get what you pay for.

Waiting with baited breath.

Regards,

RTROSE

Wait no longer my friend as there wont be a guy #2. It boiled down to this. I priced drywall and knew about what it would cost for that alone so I had an idea as to what to look for. I knew that the guy that did it all including supply/deliver the drywall would be a bit higher as far as materials cost goes but thats to be expected since its a convenience. Guy #1 gave me two estimates last week. 1) that included everything, start to finish, top to bottom. and estimate 2) was hanging, finishing and priming drywall that I supplied. The difference in the two estimates was roughly $500 or so. Ok fast forward to today. I want guy #1 to get the job because its much simpler to have him supply, deliver, hang, finish, prime and be out the door so I dont have 800 people in and out of my house. So if the difference of the 2 estimates is "roughly" $500 and I know I can get the drywall for around $200 or so then we need to haggle a bit to get the final figures to where we want them. And thats what we did. We have agreed on roughly $300 over estimate #2 and are getting the work/materials of estimate #1. Basically if I went estimate #1 I would then spend $200+ to get the materials here and only be saving myself $100 or less AND have to hassle with more people, more phone calls etc. So in the end I am getting it all done for $475 less than his original estimate and that makes me happy.

<snip> Basically if I went estimate #1 I would then spend $200+ to get the materials here and only be saving myself $100 or less AND have to hassle with more people, more phone calls etc. So in the end I am getting it all done for $475 less than his original estimate and that makes me happy.

And importantly, you will be getting it all done, and much quicker than you would do on your own! That's worth a ton right there ... unless you want to stay in the competition with me and Logan and a bunch of others for longest build time. :o

Good on ya, mate! Take lots of pictures - it's amazing how fast things go when you get the hell outta the way and let the pros do their thaing!! :cool:

And importantly, you will be getting it all done, and much quicker than you would do on your own! That's worth a ton right there ... unless you want to stay in the competition with me and Logan and a bunch of others for longest build time. :o

Good on ya, mate! Take lots of pictures - it's amazing how fast things go when you get the hell outta the way and let the pros do their thaing!! :cool:

Yea I agree thats why this is the one thing I dont mind getting out of the way for as finishing drywall is something I am terrible at and believe me I have tried. And as soon as the drywall is up and finished just think of all the things that I can get started on :eek::eek::eek:

And as soon as the drywall is up and finished just think of all the things that I can get started on :eek::eek::eek:

Yea, like...

...the new thread? :D :p :D

Yea, like...

...the new thread? :D :p :D

Lol GREAT point! I have been meaning to get started on that since I have been stuck laying around the last 4-5 days with pneumonia:( I will put that on the to do list............wait it should already be on there. :D In reality I have been tinkering with google sketchup so I could post a snazzy little sketch of the room when I start the new thread but I cant for the life of me figure it out so you may not get those snazzy sketches

Oh, my......now we're coming up with excuses like Logan. If your laying around with the creeping crud what better time than right now to start that new thread?

Sheesh.

Regards,

RTROSE

Oh, my......now we're coming up with excuses like Logan. If your laying around with the creeping crud what better time than right now to start that new thread?

Sheesh.

Regards,

RTROSE
That my friend is great advice I will see what I can do.

On a side note what is the norm for paying these guys? Is 50% up front and 50% upon completion the norm? If not what is? Also what other things should I look for when having this done??

For my drywall job:

I offered 50/50 as he came highly reccommended, however he declined and said just give me full payment when it was finished.

However I would have also been OK with; materials cost up front, and balance at finish.

For my drywall job:

I offered 50/50 as he came highly reccommended, however he declined and said just give me full payment when it was finished.

However I would have also been OK with; materials cost up front, and balance at finish.

He asked (as their company expects)50% up front and 50% upon completion. Should I be comfortable with this? I suppose it makes sense since they are supplying all the drywall, tape, mud, corner beads etc. I just like to feel comfortable with these things and need some advice from you all here to help me feel that way.

I think in my case I paid for the materials, then when the job was done I paid for the labor. Worked out just fine. I think that was pretty close to a 50/50 split if I remember. I would look for your guy to use screws, not nails. They may use a few nails to hold a sheet in place until they can screw it down, but some contractors still use nails because they are cheaper to purchase than screws. I would also watch your corner beads, this is one place where if they hurry can really show. also look for tiny bubbles in the mud as it dries, these are very small and can be easily overlooked if you are not close to the joints top coat you can miss it.

When I had my water issues and they redid my drywall in the basement I did not realize there were tiny bubbles in the top coat in a couple of areas. This is not an issue if they are caught and sanded, but can become very obvious when painting. There were only two or three areas where this happened during the repair, and they were small, but it is just the point and I did not notice until I painted just a couple of months ago. They were not there after the original job.

Regards,

RTROSE

Well it comes down to this as of now:

Tomorrow he wants to stop bye and pick up 50% down check and have me sign contract
Wednesday: His guys are supposed to drop off drywall and materials
Friday: Hangers coming to hang
Monday: Finishers will be here to do their thing
Tuesday: " "
Wednesday: If necessary to finish up
Either Tuesday or Wednesday the other 50% is due.

Seem reasonable or anything a cause for alarm?

50 percent down and 50 percent at completion is very reasonable, especially since he is supplying the materials.

I have a guy who helps me with some sheet rock projects. He always warns me about the guys who slap on joint compound around noon and then walk away with a full days pay, saying it needs to set overnight before you can sand or paint.

Instead of covering the walls with joint compound, my guy uses plaster. It dries quicker and gives the walls a hard shell. This is really his personal preference.

Sounds to me like your contractor is being very reasonable. It's amazing to watch the professionals work. They can accomplish more in a few hours than I can do in a weekend.

50 percent down and 50 percent at completion is very reasonable, especially since he is supplying the materials.

I have a guy who helps me with some sheet rock projects. He always warns me about the guys who slap on joint compound around noon and then walk away with a full days pay, saying it needs to set overnight before you can sand or paint.

Instead of covering the walls with joint compound, my guy uses plaster. It dries quicker and gives the walls a hard shell. This is really his personal preference.

Sounds to me like your contractor is being very reasonable. It's amazing to watch the professionals work. They can accomplish more in a few hours than I can do in a weekend.

Thanks for the help as I tend to worry a bit about these kind of things

Thanks for the help as I tend to worry a bit about these kind of things

Steve, you and I are a lot alike in terms of ensuring that what we are doing is right and what makes sense for you. Just think, next week, same time, you will have drywall finished. That will be a huge accomplishment and will get you to that next stage. That is exciting.

Steve,

As long as your drywall guy is local with a solid reputation; going 50/50 on the payments should be OK . Looking forward to seeing the photos

Steve,

As long as your drywall guy is local with a solid reputation; going 50/50 on the payments should be OK . Looking forward to seeing the photos

Well somewhat local company so we will see. We got the price down considerably from the original estimate and now dont have to pay 50% up front until materials are delivered (tomorrow) which makes me rest a bit easier. I am patiently waiting to see how this all turns out which reminds me I REALLY need to do SOMEthing but I CANT seem to remember what that is????

... which reminds me I REALLY need to do SOMEthing but I CANT seem to remember what that is????

Lets see if I can jog that memory...

click, click, click

Lets see if I can jog that memory...

click, click, click

hmmmm nope nothing...........anyone else got any ideas??

hmmmm nope nothing...........anyone else got any ideas??

Yup. You were going to start your new build thread. :cool:

You big tease! Just start the new thread already. What better time than to showcase the new drywall job being done.

Now get off your duff and do it!

Regards,

RTROSE

Stupid forum, double posted.

You know that would no have happened on your NEW thread, if you would have started it already.

Sheesh.

Regards,

RTROSE

I would really love to see new drywall on a new thread
(but then again I also wanted a new sports car for Xmas..)

I wish someone would surprise me, please.....

I would really love to see new drywall on a new thread
(but then again I also wanted a new sports car for Xmas..)

I wish someone would surprise me, please.....


I think it was the third or fourth Christmas Mrs. RTROSE and I were together that I jokingly asked her for a Corvette for Christmas and that was the only thing I asked for. Well she delivered, albeit it was Hot Wheel sized but it was a Vette. I failed to specify what kind and size I wanted.

Since that Christmas I have been asking for a full size Vette and have yet to get one. So Craig, I'm right there with you.

Regards,

RTROSE

Never give hope, never quit asking

Never give hope, never quit asking


I figure when I'm too old to really enjoy it, that is when I'll be able to afford it.

But, I don't give up, and I don't stop asking. Maybe one day a shiny Vette will be under the tree.

Soooooooooo.........................When is that new thread coming?

Regards,

RTROSE

LOL Just checked in here and sorry to report no new Vettes for anyone and no new thread.......yet either. This pneumonia is REALLY kicking my behind. I have never had it before and DAMN I dont ever want it again. The worst thing I have ever endured in my life to date.

On a side note the drywall was delivered yesterday and hauled to the basement. Tomorrow the hangers will be here @ 1pm to embark on their part of this journey and maybe during those 3-5 hours (depending on if they send 2 or 3 guys) I can sit and start the new thread........not making any promises as my main concern/scare is that they will cut one of my wires that are stuffed in my many low voltage boxes??!!!

Any last minute advice/tips or things to look for before I wrap things up and let them have their way down there? I hate to forget anything........any advice on keeping them from damaging cables/wires?

I figure when I'm too old to really enjoy it, that is when I'll be able to afford it.

Maybe one day a shiny Vette will be under the tree.RTROSE

I have a nice purdy, yellow Cvette in the garage, please remember when you get old like me, it's not easy getting in and out of 'em. When I climb out, it sounds like someone is pulling a cork out of a wine bottle. Buy em young!

My advise is just stay out of their way and let them work. In my experience they are pretty good at working around all of the wires. Just give them a word of caution about the type of room it is and the nature of the wires and the difficulty of repairing/replacing after all that purdy drywall is done.

I have had pneumonia before as well, yes it will literally and figuratively kick your behind. Rest easy and get better, oh, and start a new thread.

Regards,

RTROSE

I have a nice purdy, yellow Cvette in the garage, please remember when you get old like me, it's not easy getting in and out of 'em. When I climb out, it sounds like someone is pulling a cork out of a wine bottle. Buy em young!

When I grow up I want to be like you. :p Now that you have opened the door I (we) need some details, year, mileage, VIN numbers, tire pressure, trim level, interior color, coupe, convertible, car fax......well I'd actually settle for a year and a couple of pics. :D

Regards,

RTROSE

When I grow up I want to be like you. :p Now that you have opened the door I (we) need some details, year, mileage, VIN numbers, tire pressure, trim level, interior color, coupe, convertible, car fax......well I'd actually settle for a year and a couple of pics. :D

Regards,

RTROSE

Apparently he chooses NOT to disclose this vital information?? :rolleyes:

I did post something but deleted so as not to hijack your thread...

I did post something but deleted so as not to hijack your thread...

In order to hijack there must be an original game plan or outline to this thread which there has not been in quite some time. In fact any resemblance of progress is all but out the window. So we might as well talk cars here to keep this baby going at least until I can get around to start my new build thread that way I can make sure that no one forgets about me :D

In order to hijack there must be an original game plan or outline to this thread which there has not been in quite some time. In fact any resemblance of progress is all but out the window. So we might as well talk cars here to keep this baby going at least until I can get around to start my new build thread that way I can make sure that no one forgets about me :D


Sounds like a topic to be discussed in a new thread. Or maybe a topic to be discussed in THIS thread while we actually talk about HT in your NEW THREAD.

Any updates on the drywall work? Oh, and don't worry, there are those here that won't forget about you.

Regards,

RTROSE

Sounds like a topic to be discussed in a new thread. Or maybe a topic to be discussed in THIS thread while we actually talk about HT in your NEW THREAD.

Any updates on the drywall work? Oh, and don't worry, there are those here that won't forget about you.

Regards,

RTROSE

Thanks my friend that makes me feel good knowing the new thread is yet to arrive :D I am almost ready to start the new thread maybe this week but no guarantees I've just been busy with some things and still battling this funk. I have been tinkering (ie. experimenting) with google sketchup as I was trying to put together a fancy sketch of my room and the dream for it but I cant for the life of me figure it out so we may not be able to post a fancy drawing.

We need some pics!


Steve, if you really want to get to know sketchup, then follow the tutorials up to the point of where you get to know the tools and shapes for what you will need for your room....its either that or draw it up on a piece a paper and take a pic...

We need some pics!



:)

We need some pics!


Steve, if you really want to get to know sketchup, then follow the tutorials up to the point of where you get to know the tools and shapes for what you will need for your room....its either that or draw it up on a piece a paper and take a pic...

We need some pics!



:)

Haha I have watched the tutorials and have played with it without good results. I dont even really want/need a 3D sketch to share but I cant get the hang of that software at all.

Yeah, I'm with ya. I too had issues with Sketchup. Never did quite get the hang of it so I just went old school with paper/pencil and then just took a photo of it. Simple but works.

I won't hold my breath, but I'm anxious to be the first poster on the new thread. I call dibs on that distinction. ;-)

Regards,

RTROSE

There isn't going to be any new thread. Steve is just toying with us. :rolleyes:

Haha I have watched the tutorials and have played with it without good results. .

There's your problem . Don't play with it while watching the tutorial . :D

Damn,

Opened this thread and thought I would see some nice drywall photos :(

Yeah, I'm with ya. I too had issues with Sketchup. Never did quite get the hang of it so I just went old school with paper/pencil and then just took a photo of it. Simple but works.

I won't hold my breath, but I'm anxious to be the first poster on the new thread. I call dibs on that distinction. ;-)

Regards,

RTROSE

I will throw together an "RT Sketchup" since I cant figure out Google's version and use that. As for the distinction of being the first to post on the new thread, that is all yours my friend.

There isn't going to be any new thread. Steve is just toying with us. :rolleyes:

My friend I "hope" that this isnt true. ;)

There's your problem . Don't play with it while watching the tutorial . :D
Damn I knew I was doing something wrong but I couldnt place my finger on it. :D:D

Damn,

Opened this thread and thought I would see some nice drywall photos :(

Drywall photos? Not a chance. Besides RT told me that I can only post drywall photos in the "NEW" thread.

On a side I have tried to upload/post some pics from my photobucket account and their site seems to be having issues. Although I have not been to photobucket in a while it does seem that things are out of whack and I am unable to do anything on there. Anyone else with similar issues lately?

Everyone survive Snowpacalypse 2011? Were still digging out here but from what I saw Chicago got the worst of it. While enjoying a "snow day" yesterday I was doing a little mental research and am wondering (since I am terrible at searching AVS) is there a thread dedicated and/or related to Dricore and installation techniques? I am thinking about using it and have a few questions especially what to do in doorways and such but I wondered if there were a dricore thread anywhere?


Bueller?

Yeah,

We survived Snowpacalypse 2011. Actually we really dodged the bullet. Got about 1/2 or little more of freezing rain and some snow, but not near as bad as Indy and points north. Not near as bad as what they were predicting for sure. The same night we got the freezing rain it got above 32 for about two or three hours and melted the ice off of pretty much everything.

So even though I only want you to post photos of your drywall in the new thread, that doesn't mean I don't want to HEAR how it's going.

Regards,

RTROSE

We survived the monster snowstorm out here in New England as well, but I'm running out of space in the driveway for all this white stuff. It is piled up so high I can't throw any more on top! :mad:

... is there a thread dedicated and/or related to Dricore and installation techniques? I am thinking about using it and have a few questions especially what to do in doorways and such but I wondered if there were a dricore thread anywhere?
Quite a few people have talked about installing Dricore in their threads, but I don't remember any threads where they went into detail on the installation techniques. Have you tried the online installation instructions (http://www.dricore.com/en/dinstal.aspx)?

This is what I found for you.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=763999&highlight=dricore

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1282901&highlight=dricore

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=816534&highlight=dricore

You could go to the "Dedicated Theater Construction" area and type in dricore, that way you could see all the threads that have some reference to dricore that might give you some more info.

Good luck.

Regards,

RTROSE

Everyone survive Snowpacalypse 2011? Were still digging out here but from what I saw Chicago got the worst of it.

Bueller?

Iusteve,
"snowpacalypse 2011", yeah - we're still kicking. I was an avid snow-mobiler for 26 years, and I have to say this one was most impressive! Yeah - we're doing just fine. However; this is the first time in all my "sno-mo" experiences that I have seen this much of the following at the same time:

2" per hour snow
22" total snow in 16 hours
up to 60 mph winds
thunder and lightning,
and then there was my driveway and 6' drifts against the house.

All good stories for the grandkids, someday ... :)

Iusteve,
"snowpacalypse 2011", yeah - we're still kicking. I was an avid snow-mobiler for 26 years, and I have to say this one was most impressive! Yeah - we're doing just fine. However; this is the first time in all my "sno-mo" experiences that I have seen this much of the following at the same time:

2" per hour snow
22" total snow in 16 hours
up to 60 mph winds
thunder and lightning,
and then there was my driveway and 6' drifts against the house.

All good stories for the grandkids, someday ... :)

And just to make sure my kids never forget...I also threw a bon fire (I was going to do fireworks too, but didnt have any, even though I live 2 mins away from 3 fireworks stands)

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn84/kezug/4.jpg

Kezug,

That's a nice setting - I'm thinking you have just enough land (yard) to have some privacy?

Hey guys if anyone is interested or knows someone in or around northern Indiana that is interested I am selling a Middle Atlantic rack model # WRK-37-32. It is is the extra wide (24 1/4") and extra deep (32 5/8") 37U (space)rack and is one solid beast. I posted in the "for sale" forum but thought I would post here as well. If interested PM me an offer. Thanks.

Doug that is a GREAT setting, I am super jealous.

RT thanks for the links I am busy reading through them.

Craig being not far from Chicago myself we were very lucky as we didnt get the 22+ inches they were calling for but got about 16". Our drifts were bad as well but I know Chi town got hammered quite a bit worse. I have a friend that lives right off lakeshore and the pics she posted were INSANE. Great stuff

Kezug,

That's a nice setting - I'm thinking you have just enough land (yard) to have some privacy?

I have neighbors to the sides and front, but no one behind me.

How is the build coming along? Jukebox working?

How is the build coming along? Jukebox working?

Well version 2.0 is underway and I will be starting build thread 2.0 as well VERY soon so stay tuned (I may even start it today). I havent messed with the jukebox yet (thats why I havent PM'd you lately :p)as I have been busy messing with the build. I have been contemplating getting back to work on that though. So much to do and so little time.........And they say these are the times (winter) to get the indoor projects done :(:(

JUST FOR YOU RT!!

As soon as I come up with a semi-clever name for the new thread it will be started. I also sketched up one of them fancy drawings for everyone to visualize since I cant figure out sketchup to save my life.

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about! Yee haw! Bring it on!

Regards,

RTROSE

Pics of the build! Where they be? :p

Pics of the build! Where they be? :p


He is teasing us again! I'm excited, but not holding my breath! :D

Regards,

RTROSE

Pics of the build! Where they be? :p

He is teasing us again! I'm excited, but not holding my breath! :D

Regards,

RTROSE

OH my friend you COULDNT be more incorrect. I proudly present Home theater Build Version 2.0!!! Today is a momentous day in history, a day that wont soon be forgotten. I have FINALLY created build thread version 2.0. Yes I know it took quite some time to finally get around to creating it, lets just hope it doesnt take as long to actually build the room.

I would like to invite anyone still following this thread to stop over and visit/subscribe to my new build thread. I hope to see you all there as I am sure I could really use all of your help.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1316551

http://www.wondercliparts.com/holidays/st_patricks_day/st_patricks_day_graphics_04.gif

:D

Love it!!

OLD THREAD WARNING!!

Just plain sad since its ONLY been 2 months since the last post here.......I knew I should of continued the new build on the old thread!

OLD THREAD WARNING!!

Just plain sad since its ONLY been 2 months since the last post here.......I knew I should of continued the new build on the old thread!


Stop whining you big baby! :p Your new thread is WAY better than this old rag of a thread! :D

Besides the new thread is not near as littered with useless photos as this one was/is! :eek:

Regards,

RTROSE

OLD THREAD WARNING!!

Just plain sad since its ONLY been 2 months since the last post here.......I knew I should of continued the new build on the old thread!

Looks like someone cant get over their "old" girlfriend. :p

What new thread?

Stop whining you big baby! :p Your new thread is WAY better than this old rag of a thread! :D

Besides the new thread is not near as littered with useless photos as this one was/is! :eek:

Regards,

RTROSE

Well that is up for discussion. I think this thread is full of far more relative, important information but the new thread is......well......new :D I have gotten better at the build thing.
Looks like someone cant get over their "old" girlfriend. :p

Haha thats funny.....:p

What new thread?

I knew the new thread was missing someone and I JUST figured out who it was......RANDY :eek::eek::eek:

My friend please stop by the new thread and check out the new theater build if you havent done so already. Without you and your bar build I would have NEVER built a bar or a theater or spent a whole @$% load of cash the last 3 years........thanks buddy.

Oh yea check the link in my signature for the new thread.

YES I am aware this is an "OLD" thread......Hell I am an old guy or atleast I feel that way. Anyway I am updating here as there are actual REAL updates to the bar build. I have finally cleaned up all the crap that had found the bar area to be home ever since embarking on theater build 2.0 I just threw all kinds of crap on/in/around/near the bar so let me tell you cleaning it out was a MAJOR task. After I did all that we re-painted the room a much lighter tan color. For those that remember theater version 1.0 was all part of this bar build so the theater side was a very dark chocolate brown and that wasnt going to work with all my Notre Dame memorabilia that I needed to get back up on the walls.....(in case you were unaware football season is coming). So we painted and then it was on to unpacking all the crap that I have and hanging it ALL up. So here are some updated shots....and keep in mind the title of this build thread (Irish Copper Top Tavern....)as I am a HUGE Notre Dame football fan. Most all my pictures are autographed and I also have a collection of ND mini helmets that are signed that are not out yet as well as some footballs etc.

View when you reach the base of the stairs.....(fuseball table to be replaced with poker table soon)
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20031-1.jpg

Slight turn to the right is the bar area in its current state. I am thinking of skinning the bar front with rock
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20032-1.jpg

Shot looking down the bar and against the wall
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20033-1.jpg

A little more of a right turn to see the half wall bar.....
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20034-1.jpg

Front right corner of the room (note the corner of the built ins I have added since tearing out the first theater)
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20035-1.jpg

To the right..
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20036-1.jpg

Back corner/stairway wall
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20037.jpg

More to the right/meets up with the base of the stairs just around the corner
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20038.jpg

Front side of the half wall bar....
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20039.jpg
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20041.jpg

Home of poker table someday soon.......(Anyone have one they want to sell??)
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20040.jpg

For those that dont follow my build thread version 2.0 I built some built ins for the tv and more memorabilia. Here is a shot of it basically finished. I will add more here if anyone wants to see more.
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20001-8.jpg

I also added a touchscreen jukebox to the bar area using AlbumPlayer software. Though I have yet to REALLY use it, the little I have played with it was a ton of fun and should make for entertainment at parties. Here is a shot if the touchscreen monitor hanging on the wall to the right of the half wall bar..
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/002.jpg
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/004.jpg

Still have some things to hang up as well as work to do. I still need to install some quarter round trim around the laminate floor. I need to pour envirotex on the half wall bar top.

Steve,

The bar area looks great. Just one suggestion: couldn't you loose some of the green, blue, and yellow accents :)

Wow. I went to ND and I don't think I've never seen so much ND memorabilia in one place before! :eek: And where is the Appalachian State banner?

J/K. They have drugs for people like you now, Steve! :rolleyes:

Steve,

The bar area looks great. Just one suggestion: couldn't you loose some of the green, blue, and yellow accents :)

Yup,

I agree on both accounts. I'm a Indiana State University alum (who is afraid of a Sycamore tree anyway) and there are a lot of IU and PU fans around here that are hard core and I know they don't have near that much paraphernalia.:D

Very nice, well done Steve.

Regards,

RTROSE

Cool,

Some of my favorite players are Fighting Irish!

Re poker table, you can DIY a pretty cool one....There are forums for that scratch........

New poker table is after;
1) Basement 80% done
2) Bar 95% done
3) HT (keep in mind this part is functional) 50% done
but before
4) Bath 0% done


robert

I FREAKING LOVE IT! From a total Football nut, I think it looks awesome. Tell me where you got your ND banners. I have one from Ohio State but it's not accurate any more.....no jokes please....

Steve-O, you should be proud! You did great!

Steve,

The bar area looks great. Just one suggestion: couldn't you loose some of the green, blue, and yellow accents :)

Without the "accents" it would be quite boring and I dont like boring :D



Wow. I went to ND and I don't think I've never seen so much ND memorabilia in one place before! :eek: And where is the Appalachian State banner?

J/K. They have drugs for people like you now, Steve! :rolleyes:

I believe the Notre Dame bookstore has tried contacting me in hopes of acquiring some of my items. Believe me I need no drugs as this addiction is helpless.

I FREAKING LOVE IT! From a total Football nut, I think it looks awesome. Tell me where you got your ND banners. I have one from Ohio State but it's not accurate any more.....no jokes please....

Steve-O, you should be proud! You did great!

Man O man Randy is BAAACKK! Is that all I had to do was update this ol' dog and you would pop in and say hello? Awesome man glad to hear your still out there. I am a HUGE college football nut and of course an even bigger ND football nut. If you are referring to the championship banners I got those from a few different sellers on EBAY about 3-4 years ago. They are super nice heavy duty fabric banners and in my opinion REALLY make the collection. Thanks for you approval it means alot coming from an AVS hall of famer such as yourself.

Huge ND fan here... so jealous of your room!!! Have friends whose basement is blue and gold.... so awesome.... WAF would be 0 if I tried that!

Huge ND fan here... so jealous of your room!!! Have friends whose basement is blue and gold.... so awesome.... WAF would be 0 if I tried that!

Thank you sir. I am some what of an Irish fan as well ;)

Are you a fellow Hoosier or just an Irish fan? Getting my wife on board was relatively easy as she preferred to stay married rather than the alternative :D

I'm just an Irish Fan... over in central IL. She just called me and said our friend has an extra ticket to this weekends game at the big house if I want to buy it... honestly not sure if I want to go or not.

I'm just an Irish Fan... over in central IL. She just called me and said our friend has an extra ticket to this weekends game at the big house if I want to buy it... honestly not sure if I want to go or not.

We will be up there (about 6 of us)this weekend though no tickets (yet)but hope to get a hold of some. We are heading up Friday and staying til Sunday. We are taking a great big motorhome up so it should be a really good time.

That damn warning gets me every time!

I have some updates to the bar side of the basement aka "this build"!

I purchased some solid used bar stools from a local bar owner as I wanted to be able to refinish them "my way". I didnt take many pics other than a before/after of one that was done and one that is yet to be finished. I had 8 in total and 6 are finished. The other 2 will have to wait until spring as I am trying to limit my garage work until its a bit warmer.

Here's a couple of the before (left) and after (right). I wanted to stain part to match the bar and go with black on the rest to tie into the rest of the basement. I also plan to add some black accents to the bar front and maybe some other areas over there.
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20004-16.jpg
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20005-14.jpg

And here are the 4 in front of the bar and the other 2 at the half wall bar. The other 2 I need to do are for a table project I was also working on.
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20006-14.jpg
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20007-14.jpg

I am working on a pub table to go with the other 2 chairs where we can pull up 4 if need be for a card game. I also got the rest of my Irish collection up.

http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20001-17.jpg
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20002-16.jpg
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww348/Iusteve/BasementV20003-15.jpg

And that's it for my 3 month update!!

Looks good, looks really good. Everything looks right at home. It is a real shame though that you couldn't really show your support for the Irish. A true Irish fan would have a lot more paraphernalia around. :D

Regards,

RTROSE

Rudy!.....Rudy!.......RUDY!

Wow - REALLY impressive stuff! I also have a relatively modest basement, and am in the very early planning stages, and trying to figure out what I can with the space I've got. I apologize if you said this earlier in the thread (I'm sure you did) but I had two questions:

1. What is the square footage of your basement?
2. What is the measurement from the back of the bar to the front of the half wall?

Thanks so much - everything looks AWESOME!

I will take a wild stab in the dark here and give you a "best" guess. The bar/living room side is "roughly" 600 sq.ft. give or take. The back wall behind the bar to the front of the half wall bar is about 12-14'. These are guesses based on memory without me actually going and measuring. Hope this helps.

Hey! I just took a closer look at your bar pic and I'm concerned just exactly what kind of chasers that you put with your bar tending skills. Looks like some caulk tubes and spray paint, not exactly what I want with my "adult beverage". :D

Otherwise it looks good!

Regards,

RTROSE

Great job on the stools! Excellent work.

By the way, I have the exact speakers as the ones you have on the bootom of your entertainment center. I purchaed mine in 1994 and they still sound great.

Great job on the stools! Excellent work.

By the way, I have the exact speakers as the ones you have on the bootom of your entertainment center. I purchaed mine in 1994 and they still sound great.

Haha those babies are OLD!! But you know what they still can thump. I have speakers all over the place and just needed to throw a pair down there temporarily. I have some others to use in place of those but just havent had the time to switch them out.

Very impressive.. It's been awhile since I was on this thread. I'm not an Irish fan but ya gotta respect a fan that has that much stuff. That looks like years of collecting. I have a friend that is a huge Notre Dame fan and I'm definately going to have to show him these pictures.