I have had 3 versions of this disc in various formats over the years. However I cannot locate the discrete....one speaker at a time....7.1 tones to calibrate my speaker levels.

The only test tones I found is a sweep which very quickly pans around. It gives you a sense but not real convenient when using the sound meter. Every other version has a one-speaker-at-a-time tone.

Does that tone exist on this disc? I can't believe you need the upgraded version just for that tone?

Thanks,
BJBBJB

I am pretty sure that whilst this disc has DDTrHD audio that is still mixed based on the 6.1 EX DVD version from 2004 so what you hear are half tones (matrixed), not discrete tones.

It is 5.1 only. It is good to test your setup using the -30db tones, but not for setup. Use the internal tones in your receiver.

Funny, I will just using HD Basics a few minutes ago to double check my settings (after running Audyssey after moving speakers around).

It is 5.1 only.

Can you confirm for me if the DDTrHD soundtrack is EX flagged or not?

Whether discrete or matrixed....after using so may test discs over the years, I am just surprised that there is not a track that tries to present the sound level for EACH SPEAKER one at a time. The pan does nothing for me trying to calibrate with a meter. Good grief, the older versions of this disc did that. What happened? Do you need to by the "non-basic" premium version to get that?

I still have my old Joe Kane discs and Sound and Image discs. However I was hoping for a DD disc that would allow me to set each channel at the right level.

I thought perhaps that I was just using the wrong track. Amazingly, after laserdisc and then various DVD versions, the menu system is still not very user friendly to say the least.

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Whether discrete or matrixed....after using so may test discs over the years, I am just surprised that there is not a track that tries to present the sound level for EACH SPEAKER one at a time.

At the time of the original JPK DVE disc, the number of channels was 5.1. He used EX to add an extra channel. That channel is 'matrixed' into the left and right surrounds, so 7.1 is not possible based on the system.

Interesting on the matrix vs. discrete 5.1 vs. 7.1.

However if I just want a discrete tone per channel to use with a level meter say for the 5.1 channels, is there a track on the HD basics disc that will do it for me?

BJBBJB

Why aren't you using the test tones provided by your AVR? They are probably more accurate and that's what they are there for.

Why aren't you using the test tones provided by your AVR? They are probably more accurate and that's what they are there for.

Bluesky,

Certainly I can and have used these over many years of being into Home Theatre to get a good reference. It is not like I did not balance them at all. However, with multiple sources coming into the receiver, various inputs, and various codecs, various processing, etc. etc.....I have found that a test signal fed through the same source piece of equipment (say dvd player), fed through the same AVR signal chain and input (digital coax, vs. analog input for 7.1 blu-ray out) with the same processing will provide different levels than the internal tones. And of course when playing movies from those sources, you get a better match. At least with my receiver that is the case.

Specifically in this case, I am using analog outs from my DVD player for Blu-Ray so I could REALLY use a good set of test tones (the on-board speaker management is not great) to get a good balance. In fact in this case I cannot even use my receivers test signals.

Thanks,
BJBBJB

Fair enough.

I have NOT had the same experience as you, but whatever works best in your system, works best. :)

No the JPK disc does not have discrete 7.1 tones and the tones are not accurate anyway. Use the tones from the AVR.

AIX has a BD test disc (http://www.aixrecords.com/catalog/oppo_bd.html)with 7.1 tones. Be aware that while the levels are consistent in all 7 channels, they are louder than usual. I think they are -20dBFS (85 dB SPL) rather than the usual -30dBFS (75 dB SPL).

Roger,

Thank you so much for this link. The JK disc is very disappointing.

BJBBJB