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Warners have announced a street date of April 2nd according someone over at Blu-ray.com. Great film, funny to, can't wait to get it.

Get off my lawn...

Wonderful film and great news. I can't wait for this puppy!

april 2nd is a thursday, i've saw a release date of april 7th which seems more likely seeing as it is on a tuesday.

i will preorder this as soon as amazon puts it up to preorder

I will also order this, as soon as it is available. Really liked this movie.

A great news,I am a die hard fan of Clint Eastwood,the most talented actor,director,music composer and made 2 movies per year which I am curious how could he do this at this age.It was good that he came back as the actor also directed himself and the movie was a blockbuster.

Great movie and glad it is coming out sooner than I expected... Sad when I saw it didn't get nominated for anything as I personally thought it was the best film of last year.

There is a thread on the blu-ray.com forums that say the official release date is 4/21 which is a tuesday and makes more sense than a 4/2 thursday release since most new blu ray release come out on tuesdays .

Great movie and glad it is coming out sooner than I expected... Sad when I saw it didn't get nominated for anything as I personally thought it was the best film of last year.This give me itching to pick this one more.

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Amazon has it up with a release date of June 9th.

Sweet! I've been waiting for this movie for a while :)

Amazon has it up with a release date of June 9th. http://www.**********************/track/img/3358/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif

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Unless they botch the PQ this is a must buy IMO.

Unless they botch the PQ this is a must buy IMO.

The PQ would have to be pretty botched to keep me from this title.

The PQ would have to be pretty botched to keep me from this title.

Same here, plus that movie poster is just killer isn't it? I'm going to buy a copy and frame it for my HT.

Just found a review:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/37351/gran-torino/

And another:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=4910&show=review

Although I'm getting the feeling I'm the only one who cares ...

We care, just don't have much to add to the conversation.
Keep us posted and up to date.

/What can I say? It was a good movie, you know it's true because I said it. . . ;)

And another:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=4910&show=review

Although I'm getting the feeling I'm the only one who cares ...

Because it's not for the PS3 crowd it won't get much attention unfortunately. Luckily there are those of us that still appreciate excellent storytelling and filmmaking over MTV videos.

Because it's not for the PS3 crowd it won't get much attention unfortunately. Luckily there are those of us that still appreciate excellent storytelling and filmmaking over MTV videos.

I'm a PS3 user and I pre-ordered this at MovieStop after seeing it in the theater.

this movie just needs to come out.....seems like it's been forever since i've seen it.

this movie just needs to come out.....seems like it's been forever since i've seen it.

True, but it was nice to see it make a nice box office run. How many more good films can Eastwood deliver before he retires or heaven forbid pass away?

Even after he passes away he could probably make a spectacular remake of Weekend at Bernie's, so my answer is 3 regular movies + Weekend at Clint's.

I'm a PS3 user and I pre-ordered this at MovieStop after seeing it in the theater.

You're confusing "PS3 owner" with "PS3 crowd."

I have a PS3 as well. ;)

Even after he passes away he could probably make a spectacular remake of Weekend at Bernie's, so my answer is 3 regular movies + Weekend at Clint's.

He can be dug up for a sequel if the first entry does well enough in the box office.

I'll definitely be watching it again.

and again and again and.............:)

Looking forward in watching this also.

You're confusing "PS3 owner" with "PS3 crowd."

I have a PS3 as well. ;)

Perhaps. ;)

All my gamer friends with PS3s are getting this too so my perception is probably a bit skewed.

buy or rent
I thought the movie was pretty good but mildly overrated. Your mileage may vary depending on your tolerance for predictable heartstring-tugging sentimentality and amateurish acting from some key players. I doubt I'd watch it again (but I don't regret seeing it the first time).

Here's a rather negative review from DVDbeaver:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews45/gran_torino_blu-ray.htm

I haven't seen it yet (on Blu-ray or in theatre) but I think that most people would disagree with his assessment.

Here's a rather negative review from DVDbeaver:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews45/gran_torino_blu-ray.htm

I haven't seen it yet (on Blu-ray or in theatre) but I think that most people would disagree with his assessment.

Scary review. Looks like the picture and sound suck for an HD release!

This is a must IMHO. I watched it with my wife and thought it was excellent...and funny!

Scary review. Looks like the picture and sound suck for an HD release!

I hope that is not the case.

I hope that is not the case.

I hope, too. Would be a shame.
As for the pq here it is a matter of taste very often, but it is hard to believe the reviewer got the sound wrong (though also arguably a taste preference)

Hmmm, interesting review (above)...most online reviews are giving it STRONG PQ scores, the Beaver review is the only weak one I've seen, looking at his grabs vs the shots elsewhere though, heh, dunno whats the deal, just gonna go with the 'majority' of reviews on this one (which seem very positive for PQ/AQ so far). The shots in one more review linked below look great IMO.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2253/grantorino.html

The picture quality seems perfectly fine. I think the DVDBeaver reviewer simply didn't like the visual style (he mentioned the slightly green tone.)

Typical, the reviewer didn't like the movie so the PQ and AQ scores suffer. The screenies look fine, and I think its pretty well established that new releases look identical to the master unless there is DNR or EE. But there appears to be none here. blu-ray.com is terrible for downgrading the PQ AQ scores on bad movies. Go read their S Darko review, look at the screen shots and tell me if they align with the PQ score.

Looks like a perfectly good transfer and is faithful to what I saw in the theater. DVDbeaver's good for screen caps but as far as I'm concerned their reviews are about as good as their web design.

The guy who reviews the PQ on this site (the official reviews on the front page, Ralph Potts) is usually a much better guage than the DVD Beaver guys. Nothing against them but I've found their site is usually only especially useful for good screen cap comparisons, but the review content is pretty off much of the time.

Finally got this baby, can't wait to watch it

This is a must IMHO. I watched it with my wife and thought it was excellent...and funny!

hopefully mine will arrive soon.

God damn disc doesn't have a bookmark function, which I find very irritating.

Upon plugging it in I was very happy to see that this disc defaults to the TrueHD track.

Love this Eastwood's film.This movie was the another best performance in his great career.

hopefully mine will arrive soon.

Sure,mate,this film can't be wrong for you.:)

Wow picked this up today as a blind buy, just got done watching it and wow
this movie was excellent, such a great story with great performances.

I got this today too, great movie. Did any of you see the Gran Torino for sale on ebay?. Just like Eastwood's. It didn't sell you still have a shot..LOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Torino_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a13Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1 Q7c240Q3a1308Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q 2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem27a8fc260fQQitemZ170338821647

Just a heads-up for those with CIH displays - the subtitles do run into the black on occasion.

Got it via Netflix but it may have to sit a few more days since one of the bigger baseball rivalries will take up my time. Last night's game was a yawner for me since my team was getting trounced but diehard fans don't just pack it in regardless. :)

We all enjoyed it over here. The picQ was just fine as was the sound. The movie itself was excellent to say the least... :)

Oh and I also can't stand it when they put the subtitles in the black bars. Especially since I have the masking system up. It is a pain to have to hurry up and open it. Who decides those details? :eek:

Fantastic movie! Much better than Slumdog Millionaire.

Oh and I also can't stand it when they put the subtitles in the black bars. Especially since I have the masking system up. It is a pain to have to hurry up and open it. Who decides those details? :eek:
I don't have a setup like that but it irks me too. Home theater is supposed to replicate -wait for it- the theater, and in the theater the subtitles are always in the image area. How much trouble would it be to include an alternative subtitle track for those who want it that way? It can't take up more than a few kilobytes.

I've seen releases from Fox that have not only subtitles but even menus that are CIH-safe.

Other than that though I've got no complaints about the disc.

Just finished watching, Awesome.:D I read the reviews on PQ and was very suprised, with how good it was. I think the audio could have been better.

I thought the film was a masterpiece. I loved it.

The video was exquisite as well... Deep black and details.

A wonderful transfer..

RE: subtitles.. Annoying. My SIM2 has a 'SUBTITLE' mode that simply chops off the sides and raises the picture up with a black bar below converting the 2.35 film to 16:9. Not ideal.. I switched it off as soon as the subtitles were gone.

I really like this film, but it still left me with a bad "After School Special" taste in my mind. Having said that, going to buy it today because it really is quite good (even if it does feel preachy).

The best movie of last year IMO. The BD was a notch below reference but still stellar.

Transfer was really sharp and the blacks were as good as they come, but the movie was average at best :(
Clint was good, but every Asian actor in the movie was so bad at acting it was cringe worthy.

Transfer was really sharp and the blacks were as good as they come, but the movie was average at best :(
Clint was good, but every Asian actor in the movie was so bad at acting it was cringe worthy. :rolleyes:

the best movie of last year imo. The bd was a notch below reference but still stellar.:d

I couldn't find a local BB with this movie in blu-ray on the shelf, so as I have Vudu, I streamed it in HD last night. The picture quality/sound were very good and the movie of course, was excellent. Eastwood at his best!

The best movie of last year IMO. The BD was a notch below reference but still stellar.

I've only watched a few scenes, I'm looking forward to seeing the entire film. But, I have some questions about the image.

The look of the film was a bit drab, things weren't strongly illuminated and the color looked subdued. Also, it appeared to me a mild green filter was used. For those that saw it in the theater, are these artistic choices and representative of the theatrical look?

Clint was good, but every Asian actor in the movie was so bad at acting it was cringe worthy.


well since they were Hmog people and they wanted to use Among people they wasn't a lot of Among actors to pick from. there is a special feature talking about this on the disc. the people they had playing the Among people wasn't profession actors and i thought they did a good job considering the fact that they wasn't professionals.


The look of the film was a bit drab, things weren't strongly illuminated and the color looked subdued. Also, it appeared to me a mild green filter was used. For those that saw it in the theater, are these artistic choices and representative of the theatrical look?

from what i can remember it looked the same in the theater also....

Eastwood has a fasination with color in his films. Unfortunately, his tastes are uniquely his. Issuing this title on Blu Ray is akin to putting Spam on fine china - it's still Spam.

As some of the on-line reviews show, the extras provided on the disc actually look a lot better than the movie.

Strange choices for sure, but if you can make a buck using non pro actors and skimping on the production values of the film, why not see how many suckers will buy just because your name is on the front?

Eastwood has a fasination with color in his films. Unfortunately, his tastes are uniquely his. Issuing this title on Blu Ray is akin to putting Spam on fine china - it's still Spam.

As some of the on-line reviews show, the extras provided on the disc actually look a lot better than the movie.

Strange choices for sure, but if you can make a buck using non pro actors and skimping on the production values of the film, why not see how many suckers will buy just because your name is on the front?
Would you prefer it to look like A Bug's Life :rolleyes:

why not see how many suckers will buy just because your name is on the front?

i bought the movie because i loved the movie not because clint eastwood was in it...........

The look of the film was a bit drab, things weren't strongly illuminated and the color looked subdued. Also, it appeared to me a mild green filter was used. For those that saw it in the theater, are these artistic choices and representative of the theatrical look?

It definitely had a drab look in the theatre as well, matching the mood of the storyline. As for the green filter...that I don't remember seeing. I would have to have a look at the BR though and see what this green filter looks like.

Great movie. Watched it tonight. Definitely one of the best I've seen in a while even if the acting of the priest could have been a bit better. Had a question though... Do Not Read if you haven't yet seen the movie.

This is the first movie I can remember seeing Eastwood die in. Do you think he meant it to be his last film? Possibly a death to close it off but even in death, he still wins?

I thought the picture quality was great as well. Didn't seem too drab to me.

I watched this last night as well - excellent movie. My expectations were high and they were exceeded.

Anyone else find the soundtrack mixed extremely low?

Quietest BD I've heard yet - not to mention there wasn't much use of the surrounds except in the scene near the end (wasn't expecting much given the nature of the movie, but you'd think you'd hear some ambient sounds throughout).

No matter. Good flick!

I couldn't find a local BB with this movie in blu-ray on the shelf, so as I have Vudu, I streamed it in HD last night. The picture quality/sound were very good and the movie of course, was excellent. Eastwood at his best!

Same exact boat as you. I love Vudu. And I loved the movie, too...

Great movie. Watched it tonight. Definitely one of the best I've seen in a while even if the acting of the priest could have been a bit better. Had a question though... Do Not Read if you haven't yet seen the movie.

This is the first movie I can remember seeing Eastwood die in. Do you think he meant it to be his last film? Possibly a death to close it off but even in death, he still wins?

I thought the picture quality was great as well. Didn't seem too drab to me.

I'm sure there are others, but I remember he also died in Honkytonk Man.

Would you prefer it to look like A Bug's Life :rolleyes:I prefer movies that look like real life. As I view things in the real world, I don't see desaturated colors or filters used (unless I'm wearing shades).

People have normal range skin tones, etc.

When movie makers add their own "artistic" touches to the video, I find it detracts from the story telling. Some likely do this as there isn't too much of a story to tell. Others, who knows.

Clint's recent WWII movies used a significant amount of color manipulation. I found this distracting. Why anyone would spend big $ to recreate a naval invasion and then pull all the color out of it is beyond me.

Movie makers love to alter the visuals, but never seem to mess with the audio. Guess nobody would watch a film with distorted voices - maybe Eastwood talking like Woody Woodpecker?

Plot, acting, and editing that keeps a story moving are my key components in a great film. Save the video tricks.

I watched this last night as well - excellent movie. My expectations were high and they were exceeded.

Anyone else find the soundtrack mixed extremely low?

Quietest BD I've heard yet - not to mention there wasn't much use of the surrounds except in the scene near the end (wasn't expecting much given the nature of the movie, but you'd think you'd hear some ambient sounds throughout).

No matter. Good flick!

I said the same thing about the audio. But still a great movie. May watch it again tonight.:D

I prefer movies that look like real life. As I view things in the real world, I don't see desaturated colors or filters used (unless I'm wearing shades).

You don't see close-ups in real life either. Cinema is an art form; it isn't necessarily supposed to look like real life. A filmmaker may add some surreal touches in order to get across the message they are trying to convey. Criticizing a film for not looking real is in the same vein as criticizing a Picasso painting for not being photorealistic.

I'm not saying that you have to like it, but it's not like filmmakers don't have their reasons.

You don't see close-ups in real life either. Cinema is an art form; it isn't necessarily supposed to look like real life. A filmmaker may add some surreal touches in order to get across the message they are trying to convey. Criticizing a film for not looking real is in the same vein as criticizing a Picasso painting for not being photorealistic.

I'm not saying that you have to like it, but it's not like filmmakers don't have their reasons.
I don't argue with a film maker's right to do anything they want with their films. Studios have their input, if they think it will adversely affect ticket sales, so all "art" in movie making has some censorship.

I just don't buy titles that don't have visual appeal to me. Many, with ample bucks in their bank accounts, decided not to buy a Picasso.

With all artistic decisions, some will be pleased - others not. That is the nature of art.

When it comes to presenting movies on a HD medium, films that use color manipulation techniques, like Clint has done here, limit the appeal of their product amongst those who would otherwise own it. At least he did with me.

HD in any form sets the expectation of "excellent" audio and video presentation. When the product is lacking in one of these areas (or both in this example) it turns people off from HDM, seeing it as no better than what they have been watching.

I don't argue with a film maker's right to do anything they want with their films. Studios have their input, if they think it will adversely affect ticket sales, so all "art" in movie making has some censorship.

I just don't buy titles that don't have visual appeal to me. Many, with ample bucks in their bank accounts, decided not to buy a Picasso.

With all artistic decisions, some will be pleased - others not. That is the nature of art.

When it comes to presenting movies on a HD medium, films that use color manipulation techniques, like Clint has done here, limit the appeal of their product amongst those who would otherwise own it. At least he did with me.

HD in any form sets the expectation of "excellent" audio and video presentation. When the product is lacking in one of these areas (or both in this example) it turns people off from HDM, seeing it as no better than what they have been watching.
Of course , you have the right to buy based on any criteria you wish.The part that is flawed in your analogy is that your behavior is more akin to refusing to read a great book based on the font.

Art

HD in any form sets the expectation of "excellent" audio and video presentation. When the product is lacking in one of these areas (or both in this example) it turns people off from HDM, seeing it as no better than what they have been watching.

For me i bought into the HD hobby as i just want the film at home closer to how it should look when the master print was made and i don't care if it's not eye candy or considered excellent picture quality as long as we are getting the disc as it was supposed to look without any additional excessive processing which you will find on most DVD's.

Of course , you have the right to buy based on any criteria you wish.The part that is flawed in your analogy is that your behavior is more akin to refusing to read a great book based on the font.

Art
Nah, I might not buy a book because of a font being hard for me to read.

I rent things for the content, but a movie has to meet certain criteria for me to plunk down money on a purchase.

Some movies are very enjoyable to watch, but have little or no repeat viewing appeal - to me. These I won't buy.

Films that have a distracting visual style don't make the buy list either, as - for me - the style degrades the viewing experience.

I appreciate a good transfer, and appreciate a well filmed movie. Well filmed varies by the viewer, but if I think I could have done as well at home with a camcorder, I don't consider it very well done.

The up side of my method is that there are plenty of bad looking titles on the shelves when true lovers of the arts go a shopping.

For me i bought into the HD hobby as i just want the film at home closer to how it should look when the master print was made and i don't care if it's not eye candy or considered excellent picture quality as long as we are getting the disc as it was supposed to look without any additional excessive processing which you will find on most DVD's. The only problem is that the way a film is supposed to look changes over time.

The recent reissue of The French Connection was done supervised by the Director and most agree that it is a mess, due to his changing the color timing on the film.

People have also been waiting forever for a the ultimate Godfather series reissue, even though the original theatrical release was never great.

Even Mel Gibson's Payback had the visual appearance changed by the Director with it's Blu Ray release. The blue tint that virtually distroyed any color balance in the film was removed for the reissue.

Odd that film lovers want the original look, but most can't wait to load the latest firmware on their players.

For me i bought into the HD hobby as i just want the film at home closer to how it should look when the master print was made and i don't care if it's not eye candy or considered excellent picture quality as long as we are getting the disc as it was supposed to look without any additional excessive processing which you will find on most DVD's.
I saw Gran Torino twice in the theater and loved it. I then watched it again on BD earlier this week and it held up wonderfully well. I could see no discernible difference between the PQ I saw in the theater and what I saw on the BD, played on a PS3 connected via HDMI to a 60 inch Pioneer Kuro 6020FD. The sound, although undemanding, was also very good on the BD's Dolby TrueHD soundtrack. Gran Torino is a fine picture, which has been worthily presented on BD, it seems to me.

Got around to watching this today. I didn't see it in the theater so I can't comment on accuracy, what is here on the BR looks quite nice on a properly calibrated display though! It does have a different look to it, a little on the warmer/drab side but it fits the tone of the flick - and FWIW, I think the 'look' is more subtle then I was expecting anyway after reading comments. Honestly, if I hadn't read the comments I prolly wouldn't have even paid attention to it, the movie is so good that you're fully engrossed. Then again, I'm not the type of person that will take a picture of a subject that may be bathed in natural sunlight, only to load it up into PS and use the auto color tool to remove all the warmth just because that'll make for a 'more accurate/sterile' picture, heh.

Loved this movie, if Clint doesn't do another thing, he'll certainly exit film on a very high note! Looking forward to the next time I fire this one up!!

Loved this movie, if Clint doesn't do another thing, he'll certainly exit film on a very high note! Looking forward to the next time I fire this one up!!
Clint Eastwood was, indeed, terrific in Gran Torino. Nobody in the history of film has ever growled or scowled more expressively. There is nothing subtle about Eastwood's style but it is certainly effective. Like John Wayne before him, Eastwood has gone through a 50 plus year career by performing versions of himself -- not that there's anything wrong with that.:)

Eastwood has a fasination with color in his films. Unfortunately, his tastes are uniquely his. Issuing this title on Blu Ray is akin to putting Spam on fine china - it's still Spam.

As some of the on-line reviews show, the extras provided on the disc actually look a lot better than the movie.

Strange choices for sure, but if you can make a buck using non pro actors and skimping on the production values of the film, why not see how many suckers will buy just because your name is on the front?

As you can see on the side there I am from Michigan and grew up not very far from where all of this was shot. We left Detroit for the burbs after the riots in 68, and up until a few months ago, I actually had customers in Detroit. Much of the city, at least where I went, looked like a scene out of Full Metal Jacket, a bombed out third world hell hole. I thought Eastwood did a fantastic job of catching the mood of the area, as that is what I pick up down there personally. It is a very dark and sad city to be in, not how it used to be though, but then we are going places that do not fit the forums here.

Mike

Nah, I might not buy a book because of a font being hard for me to read.

I rent things for the content, but a movie has to meet certain criteria for me to plunk down money on a purchase.

Some movies are very enjoyable to watch, but have little or no repeat viewing appeal - to me. These I won't buy.

Films that have a distracting visual style don't make the buy list either, as - for me - the style degrades the viewing experience.

I appreciate a good transfer, and appreciate a well filmed movie. Well filmed varies by the viewer, but if I think I could have done as well at home with a camcorder, I don't consider it very well done.

The up side of my method is that there are plenty of bad looking titles on the shelves when true lovers of the arts go a shopping.

I understand but to say I'd not watch it because it has a certain style of filming, pretty much irrespective of the quality of the film itself, seems shallow to me.

Of course, I agree that if the look of a film is just your cup of tea that that can increase it's worth for entertainment regardless of the quality of the film itself.

Art

I understand but to say I'd not watch it because it has a certain style of filming, pretty much irrespective of the quality of the film itself, seems shallow to me.

Of course, I agree that if the look of a film is just your cup of tea that that can increase it's worth for entertainment regardless of the quality of the film itself.
I agree that worrying too much about the style used to film a movie is bound to be unproductive. After all, there are as many styles of making movies as there are directors and cinematographers. Anyway, when I read some of the complaints made by the "Golden Eyed" crowd about the style in which a film was shot, I usually end up scratching my head. That doesn't mean either that the golden eyed ones are wrong or that I am. It only means that I virtually never see anything so blameworthy in the film style used in an otherwise good movie that I am sorry I watched it and would never watch it again.

I understand but to say I'd not watch it because it has a certain style of filming, pretty much irrespective of the quality of the film itself, seems shallow to me.

Of course, I agree that if the look of a film is just your cup of tea that that can increase it's worth for entertainment regardless of the quality of the film itself.

ArtArt, you keep referencing watching a film. I have been talking about buying a film.

Blu Ray depends on people plunking down their cash for product. Product that tickles the eyes helps sell discs.

The more people are disappointed with how a disc looks, the fewer times they will buy.

Those in the DVD world need to see a difference in quality to justify the purchase of a player & software.

Art, you keep referencing watching a film. I have been talking about buying a film.

Blu Ray depends on people plunking down their cash for product. Product that tickles the eyes helps sell discs.

The more people are disappointed with how a disc looks, the fewer times they will buy.

Those in the DVD world need to see a difference in quality to justify the purchase of a player & software.
aydu -- I agree that the decision whether to buy a BD is very different from the decision to rent one. For example, in the past year I have seen between 100 and 200 BDs, thanks to my Blockbuster Total Access subscription. Nevertheless, I own only about 10 BDs and several of those were gifts. I love BDs and think they represent the state of the art with respect both to audio and video quality but they are still far too expensive, it seems to me. Thus, despite Blu-ray's victory over HD DVD in the Great HD Format War, I continue to worry about whether the Blu-Ray format will survive.

Those in the DVD world need to see a difference in quality to justify the purchase of a player & software.

True but it would be pretty rare to not have a large improvement over DVD with the BD. This would really be regardless or artistric intent or style of filming.

I love for them to look great. I'm drawn to great transfers as well but I spend a lot more time repeat viewing great films.

Art

I noticed this title defaulted to lossless. This is a big step forward for Warner.

I only buy the BD movies that I want to watch again and again, and that I do not already own on DVD. But before the purchase I check the reviews, if the transfer is no good I will not buy it. I made a mistake on the Italian Job, I bought it without checking and I watched it, very grainy, I was pissed. Checked the review and it was very bad, very bad transfer. There are probably only a very few BD that I would buy that I aready own on DVD, Pulp Fiction being one of them (not available yet on BD).

John

Clint Eastwood was, indeed, terrific in Gran Torino. Nobody in the history of film has ever growled or scowled more expressively. There is nothing subtle about Eastwood's style but it is certainly effective. Like John Wayne before him, Eastwood has gone through a 50 plus year career by performing versions of himself -- not that there's anything wrong with that.:)
C.Eastwood is exactly the one that you expressed about him.He is a man of black and white,right and wrong.:)

My family and I just finished watching Gran Torino and we all enjoyed the film.

C.Eastwood is exactly the one that you expressed about him.He is a man of black and white,right and wrong.:)

You think? His character in Unforgiven was clearly a grey area. Dirty Harry definitely colored outside the lines. I will admit he tends to play hero/villain characters, very much like John Wayne, but Wayne too had his grey roles. I think their appeal isn't so much that they are black/white/right/wrong, but that they are... right. You love Wayne and Eastwood because, most of the time, they are the righteous character people find lacking around them.

I think their appeal isn't so much that they are black/white/right/wrong, but that they are... right. You love Wayne and Eastwood because, most of the time, they are the righteous character people find lacking around them.

Well said !

Art

You think? His character in Unforgiven was clearly a grey area. Dirty Harry definitely colored outside the lines. I will admit he tends to play hero/villain characters, very much like John Wayne, but Wayne too had his grey roles. I think their appeal isn't so much that they are black/white/right/wrong, but that they are... right. You love Wayne and Eastwood because, most of the time, they are the righteous character people find lacking around them.That was your opinions about him but to me,he is the man I was talking about.

looking forward to watch this.

looking forward to watch this.
It was a good film with the best performance of Eastwood,mate.:)

Watched this last night. Both my wife and I came to the same conclusion - this completed the lifecycle of characters that Clint Eastwood has played over the years.

The end of the film would have seen a different Walt if Clint had made it 20 years ago. Still the hero, but in a style that matches the character's age and physical abilities.

If we are right, this is the perfect point for Clint Eastwood to end his on screen presence. He'd be going out on top - as an actor - and with his on screen persona in tact. Who could ask for more.

One thing I wondered about during the film is whether the number of beers Walt consumed was about the same as Clint downs in a day. I know he loves his brews, but has not fallen into the beer gut issue that many older men have.

I bought this last week watched it with my father he enjoyed it alot I saw it in the theater. I have one issue with this disc I have a PS3 and all the extras play the god damn subtitle on by default. I have not had any other bluray do that and was very annoying. The sound was way weak for a bluray when I have to turn my sound system to 32 when its normally on 50 shows how low some of the talking was.

Watched this last night. Both my wife and I came to the same conclusion - this completed the lifecycle of characters that Clint Eastwood has played over the years.

The end of the film would have seen a different Walt if Clint had made it 20 years ago. Still the hero, but in a style that matches the character's age and physical abilities.

If we are right, this is the perfect point for Clint Eastwood to end his on screen presence. He'd be going out on top - as an actor - and with his on screen persona in tact. Who could ask for more.


That's a great point and perspective. As much as it would sadden me to see Clint stop appearing in movies, you're right. It would be going out on top, with a stellar performance and a terrific and memorable character.

In any event, he's got every reason to be really proud of his body of work. He seems to have gotten better and better over the years. I think his recent films have been much more mature and deep than those he did in the 60s, 70s, or 80s. Unforgiven, Million Dollar Baby, and now Gran Torino are really deep and melancholy masterpieces.

Just finished watching this film and its definitley another one of Clint Eastwood best. You gotta love him he is one of the best actors of our lifetime.

Just finished watching this film and its definitley another one of Clint Eastwood best. You gotta love him he is one of the best actors of our lifetime.
Well, he makes some very good films. His acting talent is probably secondary to his skill as a director and overall story teller.

I wouldn't see Clint Eastwood - the actor - in the same league as DeNiro, Pachino, Brando, etc.

Well, he makes some very good films. His acting talent is probably secondary to his skill as a director and overall story teller.

I wouldn't see Clint Eastwood - the actor - in the same league as DeNiro, Pachino, Brando, etc.

I personally think hes in the same league.

watch this a little over a week ago with the wife. i thought it was one of eastwoods best movies. the only negatives about the whole movie i could find was his growl noise he made was a little over the top at times and the sound from the film itself was hard to hear at times and i had to turn up my a/v receiver a bit more then normal like someone else mentioned. overall it was a great movie and i will probably pick this up to add to my collection of blu-ray's

I wouldn't see Clint Eastwood - the actor - in the same league as DeNiro, Pachino, Brando, etc.
I agree. Eastwood is now and has always been more of a star than an actor, which is to say that he has made a career of playing versions of himself. De Niro, Pacino, and Brando at their best always had the ability to simply disappear into roles. I should add that a lot of other stars, such as John Wayne, Cary Grant, and Gary Cooper never disappeared in their performances but are nonetheless remembered fondly.

great movie...

and yes i think its his last movie (starring movie)

If we are right, this is the perfect point for Clint Eastwood to end his on screen presence. He'd be going out on top - as an actor - and with his on screen persona in tact.
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One thing I wondered about during the film is whether the number of beers Walt consumed was about the same as Clint downs in a day. I know he loves his brews, but has not fallen into the beer gut issue that many older men have.

He has stated this was his last appearance in front of the camera.

Regarding the lack of a beer gut, Eastwood has always included vigorous exercise in his daily routine. He also has a better diet than what was show in this film. :)

Art

He's also a health-food nut.

Anyone else find the soundtrack mixed extremely low?

Quietest BD I've heard yet -


No question about this. It was low.

You know when the film finishes is that Clint Eastwood singing that Gran Torino song?

Yeah, its him. He enjoys it I guess - he also sang a little in 'Every Which Way But Loose" (and prolly some others I'm missing, heh) but that came off as more corny IMO, here, it seemed fitting, it was very honest sounding, an older gentleman singing sincerly even if they know they don't own a true set of pipes I mean. It reminded me of when Burgess Meredith sang a cute lullaby to the child in Grumpier Old Men, just works sometimes. Clint got it right as well.

It reminded me of when Burgess Meredith sang a cute lullaby to the child in Grumpier Old Men, just works sometimes.

It reminded me of William Shatner singing Rocket Man...

LOL...

Watched this movie last nite and the audio seemed poor. Understanding words was difficult in much of the movie. I have a pretty nice audio system with an HK 3600 avr and L/R/C. Compared to Star Trek, I missed out on much of the dialogue. Anyone else notice this????????? Supposed to be Dolby True HD so I was expecting much more.

it all sounds just fine running through my denon 1600. never had a problem with any of my blu ray or hd dvds that has dolby true hd.

Yeah, its him. He enjoys it I guess - he also sang a little in 'Every Which Way But Loose" (and prolly some others I'm missing, heh) but that came off as more corny IMO, here, it seemed fitting, it was very honest sounding, an older gentleman singing sincerly even if they know they don't own a true set of pipes I mean. It reminded me of when Burgess Meredith sang a cute lullaby to the child in Grumpier Old Men, just works sometimes. Clint got it right as well.

he also sang in honkytonk man. :)

Yeah, its him. He enjoys it I guess - he also sang a little in 'Every Which Way But Loose" (and prolly some others I'm missing, heh) but that came off as more corny IMO, here, it seemed fitting, it was very honest sounding, an older gentleman singing sincerly even if they know they don't own a true set of pipes I mean. It reminded me of when Burgess Meredith sang a cute lullaby to the child in Grumpier Old Men, just works sometimes. Clint got it right as well.
he also sang in honkytonk man. :)
As you guys have already observed, Eastwood has performed songs over the course of a lot of years in a lot of his movies. He's musical. The first movie I can remember Eastwood singing in is Play Misty for Me (1971), which came before his Dirty Harry days. Eastwood is a triple threat.:)

I watched this a few nights ago and struggled to hear what people were saying, like the center level was lower than the other channels. Had to turn the amp way up but get ready to turn it down when guns were fired cause they sounded insanely loud!

Eastwood is a triple threat.:)

Now THAT is funny!

As you guys have already observed, Eastwood has performed songs over the course of a lot of years in a lot of his movies. He's musical. The first movie I can remember Eastwood singing in is Play Misty for Me (1971), which came before his Dirty Harry days. Eastwood is a triple threat.:)

What, has everyone forgotten PAINT YOUR WAGON (1969)?

What, has everyone forgotten PAINT YOUR WAGON (1969)?
Good catch! I had remembered Lee Marvin in Paint Your Wagon but had completely forgotten about Eastwood. And they say SHORT term memory is the first to go.:) I had also forgotten that Harve Presnell was in it, too. Presnell was an honest to goodness Broadway musical theater guy, most famously for his Daddy Warbucks role in Annie.