bobpaule
02-15-09, 11:49 AM
UPDATE: After more careful reading this player is also HDMI 1.2a. This, along with the input from the posters
here convinced me that there would be no added benefits over the Oppo. I apologize for spreading misinformation,
my bad!
http://www.cinedream.be/products/onkyo_dvsp506_big.jpg
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From the Oppo 980 thread:
"I have set my DV-980H to SACD DSD and my receiver shows playback 44.1Khz audio. What gives?
This is not an error. According to the HDMI 1.2a specifications, the indicated sample frequency on the receiver will be 44.1kHz. As pulled from the documentation:
"For One Bit Audio streams, the value indicated by the SF bits shall equal the ACR fS value. For Super Audio CD, the SF bits are typically set to 0, 1, 0, to indicate a Sample Frequency of 2.8224MSamples/s (i.e. 64*44.1kHz)."
This is due to 8-channels of audio being available through HDMI at 8 bits per channel at 44.1KHz. The end bandwidth is 2.8224Mbits/second, which equates to 2.8224M 1-bit audio."
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Indeed my HDMI 1.3a Onkyo processor shows 44.1 kHz, so here is a bottleneck, as the DSD spec clearly shows frequencies from 2-100 kHz.
Never knew until today that while the Oppo sounded great, it downgraded the freq. to 41 because of the HDMI 1.2 standard. You live, you learn, they say :)
I have the Onkyo on the way, will post about findings and real life versus perceived gains from the potential removal of the 44.1 kHz bottleneck. BTW The manual lists ,n50 KHz as the upper limit for SACD frequency, but i suspect it applies when the player does the decoding only. I will let you know.
http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=DV-SP506&class=DVD&p=i
If it will not playback up to 100 kHz, then the only choice may be the $1000 Sony, read specs here, says "SACD Playing Frequency 2-100 KHz, Frequency response 2-50KHz":
http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/4000691111.pdf
here convinced me that there would be no added benefits over the Oppo. I apologize for spreading misinformation,
my bad!
http://www.cinedream.be/products/onkyo_dvsp506_big.jpg
============================================================ ==================
From the Oppo 980 thread:
"I have set my DV-980H to SACD DSD and my receiver shows playback 44.1Khz audio. What gives?
This is not an error. According to the HDMI 1.2a specifications, the indicated sample frequency on the receiver will be 44.1kHz. As pulled from the documentation:
"For One Bit Audio streams, the value indicated by the SF bits shall equal the ACR fS value. For Super Audio CD, the SF bits are typically set to 0, 1, 0, to indicate a Sample Frequency of 2.8224MSamples/s (i.e. 64*44.1kHz)."
This is due to 8-channels of audio being available through HDMI at 8 bits per channel at 44.1KHz. The end bandwidth is 2.8224Mbits/second, which equates to 2.8224M 1-bit audio."
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Indeed my HDMI 1.3a Onkyo processor shows 44.1 kHz, so here is a bottleneck, as the DSD spec clearly shows frequencies from 2-100 kHz.
Never knew until today that while the Oppo sounded great, it downgraded the freq. to 41 because of the HDMI 1.2 standard. You live, you learn, they say :)
I have the Onkyo on the way, will post about findings and real life versus perceived gains from the potential removal of the 44.1 kHz bottleneck. BTW The manual lists ,n50 KHz as the upper limit for SACD frequency, but i suspect it applies when the player does the decoding only. I will let you know.
http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=DV-SP506&class=DVD&p=i
If it will not playback up to 100 kHz, then the only choice may be the $1000 Sony, read specs here, says "SACD Playing Frequency 2-100 KHz, Frequency response 2-50KHz":
http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/4000691111.pdf