Hello,
I am new to this forum. I have tried for about an hour now to figure out what the best quality projector I can get at the moment for around $4000. I t is going to be put in my livingroom and I have a 120" da-lite motorized screen at right about 13' away. This is mostly for evening viewing but it would be nice to watch during the day as well. There is a bit of ambient light that comes in from the front windows and the back porch. I am a bit confused so any help would be much appreciated. I saw the JVC RS10 on a few threads but I am not sure if it will work for me if there are better options. I am also in the proces of getting a Pioneer 5020FD that will be on the wall and the Da-lite screen will roll down in front of it for movies.

Thanks
Tim

IMHO: A used JVC DLA-RS1. You can get one for less than $3k.

I concur, my first thought was a used RS1

I would get a brand new Panasonic PT-AE3000U...;) My first thought was the FPJ1 (which is why some of these guys are selling their RS1's)...but then I thought, no frame interpolation, which I've come to love...(need). So with the excellent black levels, and the 120 frame interpolation, as well as a much more reasonable price, the Panny is a no-brainer...IMHO...;0)

I doubt the "panny" comes close to hd350/rs10 in picture quality, contrast or even brightness. And the hd350/rs10 can be had under 4k. The question to me is how does it compare in picture to projectors like benq w20000, planar pd8130, optoma hd8200 and marantz sp11s1. All those projectors are available to me within my own price range of under $5k, and I wonder if rs10 is better overall looking than those DLP's. I wish I could demo the rs10 or some of those and compare them by memory to mitsubishi hc6000 I used to have.

FPJ1, no question about it. If people are picking these units up for less than 3g's BRAND NEW, no second thought is required. And, next best would be the RS10, if you need the extra lumens. Just my 2 cents...

Thanks guys! That does give me more to think about.

I looked and there are a few retailers that have them and they really range in price. Since I have not purchased one from an online dealer would anyone be willing to give me a recommendation? I think the process is you send me a provate message since you should not post that here.

Thanks again

I have heard similar rumors that the Pioneer is on clearance for near $3k. If that is the case, that is tough to beat in that range (though there are some advatnages to the RS10 if you want to spend more).

Timmay75
My RS1 is posted in the classifieds if interested. Its in pristine condition.

I looked and there are a few retailers that have them and they really range in price. Since I have not purchased one from an online dealer would anyone be willing to give me a recommendation? I think the process is you send me a provate message since you should not post that here.

Thanks again

Talk to the man himself; Jason Turk. Shoot him a PM.

I'd join the crowd and say a used RS-1 for ~ $2.5K and a Vision HDP to tame the gamut errors.

Kevin

I'd join the crowd and say a used RS-1 for ~ $2.5K and a Vision HDP to tame the gamut errors.

Kevin

Why would anyone go for a used RS1 for ~2500, when you can have a NEW FPJ1(RS2) for ~3000? Just saying...:)

Actually the FPJ1 can be found for 2800.00 if you look hard enough...factory sealed. :)

But its not the panny so why would you buy it?

But its not the panny so why would you buy it?

You are 100% correct. and that is why I didn't. If it had frame interpolation I would have pulled the trigger. I still may buy a couple to flip on ebay...;)

rs10. Lumens to spare in theater mode, sharp, powered lens, easy placement with zoom and horizontal/vertical lens shift, new technology, no dust blobs, V-stretch, 30,000 to one - Native contrast. Under $4000

rs10. Lumens to spare in theater mode, sharp, powered lens, easy placement with zoom and horizontal/vertical lens shift, new technology, no dust blobs, V-stretch, 30,000 to one - Native contrast. Under $4000

I forgot to mention...extremely quiet

I did not like my RS1 at all. I was bothered by motion blur with the LCOS technology. It doesn't bother everyone, but when it does, it makes it hard to enjoy the image. I now have a Panasonic PT-AE3000U and love it. The frame interpolation takes away the motion blur of the LCD technology. At first the image looked a little "artificial", but my eyes have adjusted (they never adjusted to the RS1 blur). Now the picture just looks clear. Colors are much more natural over the RS1's over-saturation, too.

I did not like my RS1 at all. I was bothered by motion blur with the LCOS technology. It doesn't bother everyone, but when it does, it makes it hard to enjoy the image. I now have a Panasonic PT-AE3000U and love it. The frame interpolation takes away the motion blur of the LCD technology. At first the image looked a little "artificial", but my eyes have adjusted (they never adjusted to the RS1 blur). Now the picture just looks clear. Colors are much more natural over the RS1's over-saturation, too.

A perfect example that everyone is a little different. I would recommend the OP gets to see each PJ (calibrated - or tuned - to his/her own liking) in action before pulling the trigger on buying one. As long as the purchaser is pleased with the image of any given PJ, then it is a great purchase. If one goes out and buys what some say is the best PJ in the world and doesn't quite like the image it throws, then that was not such a great purchase after all.

So at least make sure you get to see the PJ in action before purchase, or ensure you can return it just in case.

Now I did not heed my own warning when purchasing my used RS1, but it all worked out well because I absolutely love the image it throws. YMMV.

rs10. Lumens to spare in theater mode, sharp, powered lens, easy placement with zoom and horizontal/vertical lens shift, new technology, no dust blobs, V-stretch, 30,000 to one - Native contrast. Under $4000

Emphasis on "no dust blobs". I'm not a projector owner -- yet. I'm still in the research phase. I've been following the panny thread for quite a while and have absolutely ruled it out because of that single issue. There is no way I will ever get a pj that does not have a sealed light engine.

The RS10 is right around the 4k mark and is arguably one of the best, but at the high end. As others have found with the closeout Pioneer, that is a good deal for sure (though there are still pros to the RS10/HD350).

rs10. Lumens to spare in theater mode, sharp, powered lens, easy placement with zoom and horizontal/vertical lens shift, new technology, no dust blobs, V-stretch, 30,000 to one - Native contrast. Under $4000

I concur, I am sure you can haggle your way into getting an RS10 or HD350 JVC for under $4000 for sure, check with Jason Turk or Craig Peer at AVS Sales. And yes it's by far one of the quitest projectors I have ever heard/seen :) I just ordered the RS20 and I should be getting it this Friday! YEEEEEEAAAAHH!!!!

If it comes down to the RS10 vs FPJ1, it's really quite simple. RS10 if you need the extra lumens, and FPJ1 if you don't.;)

When you clamp down the iris to get 30:000:1 you lose lumens, and ansi contrast. I've read a comparison on avforums (euro) where a guy said rs2 was close to rs20 while rs10 came up short in pq, when he viewed all 3.

When you clamp down the iris to get 30:000:1 you lose lumens, and ansi contrast. I've read a comparison on avforums (euro) where a guy said rs2 was close to rs20 while rs10 came up short in pq, when he viewed all 3.

Isn't the RS10 cheaper than both those?

It's not cheaper than the pioneer fpj1 which is same thing as rs2.