Wow...4 seasons for $236, that is madness. Maybe $150 would be fair, are they trying to make BR flop? :confused:If you are that concerned about price (instead of waiting for it to drop), considering Deep Discount's 20% sale should be running at about the time it's available (July 16th-end of month), it will be ~$191 shipped after the discount.

Amazon's price averages out to just over 59 bucks per season, which is more or less in the ballpark for a TV series on Blu-ray these days. Consider also that the HD DVD version of BSG:S1 had an MSRP for 100 bucks when it first came out a few years ago. To me, Amazon's price on the BD set seems pretty reasonable.

Highly misleading. First, you're comparing apples to oranges, using the series set rather than the standalone season prices. It's almost always the case that the seasons in a set will cost less than if they were bought standalone. The only fair comparison is standalone vs. standalone or series vs. series, assuming they're of roughly equivalent length and episodes.

Second, you used Amazon's discounted price to derive your per season cost rather than using Universal's suggested price for the series, which is $350. Divided by 4, that's comes to $87.50 per season, quite a bit more than the list price for a number of other shows. Even if you use Amazon's discounted prices of $59, it's still unfavorable to Battlestar: Lost is going for $49 Smallville is $38 (discounted down from a manufacturer's retail price of $80). It's even worse when you compare apples-to-apples. Amazon had the list prices of the standalone Battlestar seasons as $112. Using Amazon's customary 30% discount, that means the standalone BSG seasons are $78.40. That's $30 and $40 more than the Amazon discounted prices of seasons of Lost and Smallville, respectively. That's not the same ballpark, that's a different sport.

Finally, I remember plenty of complaints about the HD-DVD price so whether or not the Blu-ray price is close to it is hardly evidence that it's reasonable; they could both be equally unreasonable. Considering that Amazon listed the Season 1 Blu-ray at a suggested retail price of $112, a $12 INCREASE from the HD-DVD version, even though the Blu-ray market is much bigger now than the HD-DVD market ever was, production costs have dropped, the retail market is much weaker and the economy has been in a free fall, I don't know how you chalk that up as "reasonable." Looks more like price gouging to me.

But... but... it comes with a Cylon figure! Surely that must count for something! :D

Okay, you win.

My favorite post.

Brandon

My favorite post.

Brandon

Sorry I don't have a whole lot of patience for posts that don't stand up to 30 seconds of scrutiny.

Wow...4 seasons for $236, that is madness. Maybe $150 would be fair, are they trying to make BR flop? :confused:

yep. especially when you count how many episodes are included...

When Lost Season 3 first came out, its MSRP was $124.99. A year later, Season 4's MSRP was set at $96.99. And now, Seasons 1 and 2 have much more reasonable MSRPs of $69.99 each. That's a total of $361.96 MSRP for four out of six seasons over the years. Now, I bought Seasons 3 and 4 when they first came out, so whatever discounted price I paid was off those original and really high MSRPs. With that as background, that's why I'm kind of okay with Amazon's price for the BSG set. I feel that the original MSRP for Season Three is a better example of price gouging, as was the original MSRP for Star Trek: Season One on HD DVD/DVD ($217.99).

eh, this is a ripoff. At least Star Trek TOS had something like 30 episodes in its first season. Contrast this against BSG season one, which had 13 episodes? I think where the gouging will become obvious is in a price-per-episode comparison...

eh, this is a ripoff. At least Star Trek TOS had something like 30 episodes in its first season. Contrast this against BSG season one, which had 13 episodes? I think where the gouging will become obvious is in a price-per-episode comparison...13 episodes plus the miniseries, which is the equivalent of four episodes at roughly 45 minutes each.

I'll definitely be interested in this, but I'm going to hold back and see reviews of the quality first for sure. I have S1-3 on DVD, and if it's not much of an upgrade I won't double dip if there's too many issues. That said, I have always been underwhelmed with the quality on DVD, so we'll have to see. I loooove this series!

This is the one concern that I have. Quite Frankly, the DVD quality is by far one of the best that I have seen. I picked up the HD DVD version and was dissappointed in that it didn't really seem like much of an upgrade. Almost might be worth renting the first disc of the newest season... especially if it is going to be that pricey. I still don't mind buying on DVD for some, but I would really prefer the bluray for this series..... I just don't want to get gouged.

bferr1,

Fair enough but isn't that my point? BSG isn't coming out two years ago when TV on high def home video was sky high. It's coming out today, in a market and environment where prices are much much lower. Really, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you but if you thought $125 for a season of Lost was overcharging a year and a half ago, then why aren't you bother by the very close price of $112 for season 1 of BSG today? I mean, that just confused me.

bferr1,

Fair enough but isn't that my point? BSG isn't coming out two years ago when TV on high def home video was sky high. It's coming out today, in a market and environment where prices are much much lower. Really, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you but if you thought $125 for a season of Lost was overcharging a year and a half ago, then why aren't you bother by the very close price of $112 for season 1 of BSG today? I mean, that just confused me.I guess the convenience and cost savings from buying it all at once versus individually is the draw for me. As you said, the MSRP for the BSG Complete Series averages out to $87.50 per season, which, again, is far better than the original MSRPs for Lost Seasons 3 and 4. I guess it's all relative.

And by the way, the Amazon listings were apparently for the Australian releases, which might be why their price was a rather inflated $112 per season. The studio was listed as Universal Aus/Zoom, or something like that. But those pages have been pulled now.

13 episodes plus the miniseries, which is the equivalent of four episodes at roughly 45 minutes each.
The miniseries I think is distinct from the regular seasons. At any rate, that only adds one episode per season (four seasons, four mini-series episodes), hardly going to affect the price per episode (which is already dismal compared to traditional TV shows on optical media).

Long story short: BSG is simply not a value, it's a gouging.

The other thing to consider in this argument is the quality of the product. Comparing it to some of these other shows is kind of ridiculous, because BSG is substantially better than all of them.

Instead of saying that this set has X amount of episodes divided by X amount of money, maybe it's better to look at it as paying a premium price for premium writing, acting, production design, etc.

Regardless of running time, the ideas that are contained in this set will be rattling around in my brain for much longer than most of these other rather disposable shows that have longer seasons.

To each his own, but that's why I'm buying it, and that's why I feel like I'm getting a fair price.

Instead of saying that this set has X amount of episodes divided by X amount of money, maybe it's better to look at it as paying a premium price for premium writing, acting, production design, etc.



Nice idea but that's really not how the home video market works unfortunately...

Yes, I see the links on that website aren't working anymore. There is a working page for Season 4.5 Blu-ray, which comes out the same day as the complete series set. Retail price is $70, Amazon price is $49. I suppose Universal is maintaining the half-season releases for Blu-ray instead of simply doing full seasons to allow people who bought half-season DVDs to pick and choose what they want to upgrade. That is a owner-friendly touch. Now if they would only do like what Disney is doing with Lost Seasons 1 and 2 and give a $20 rebate per season to Blu-ray buyers who already own the DVD!

edited to add:

Amazon France has a working page for Season 1 on Blu-ray here (release date of August 25):

http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00290FWKC/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p74_t1?pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1DZZNK3WXMM6JSS6A991&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375513&pf_rd_i=405320

Price is 46,49 euros, which comes to about US$64 at current exchange rate. You can't really extrapolate American prices from European ones but it is interesting that it is nowhere close to $112 as that website indicated. Room for hope!

The miniseries I think is distinct from the regular seasons. At any rate, that only adds one episode per season (four seasons, four mini-series episodes), hardly going to affect the price per episode (which is already dismal compared to traditional TV shows on optical media).

Long story short: BSG is simply not a value, it's a gouging.The miniseries has been included in both the DVD and HD DVD sets for Season One. I think it comes housed in the case for Season One on Blu-ray.

The other thing to consider in this argument is the quality of the product. Comparing it to some of these other shows is kind of ridiculous, because BSG is substantially better than all of them.

Instead of saying that this set has X amount of episodes divided by X amount of money, maybe it's better to look at it as paying a premium price for premium writing, acting, production design, etc.

Regardless of running time, the ideas that are contained in this set will be rattling around in my brain for much longer than most of these other rather disposable shows that have longer seasons.

To each his own, but that's why I'm buying it, and that's why I feel like I'm getting a fair price.

I agree. It is one of the best written shows that I have seen in a long time. Still. It is alot. For me personally, I rent and then buy it when it becomes more affordable. I already have the 1st on HD DVD. I will probably rent the season that I haven't seen yet and buy it later. I don't buy and keep many tv shows.

For me the Keepers:

Star Trek TNG
Star Trek TOS
StarGate SG1
The Greatest American Hero
Knight Rider

Rent and resell:

The other Star Treks
StarGate Atlantis
Lost
24
Smallville

I would almost keep Lost, but I don't think it is one that I will really want to go back and rewatch. It is more about the mystery

I have watched some of those SG1 episodes many times... and it is sentimental. I really like the episode with O'Neill and Harry trapped on the Furling planet. Also like the one where Jackson visits O'Neill in in Baul's prison.

ST TNG and TOS should speak for itself. I really like the season ender of Season 5 TNG (The one with Picard and his flute).

I am sad BSG is over. What makes this show so good is the acting as well as story. This is one of the few "remakes" that is head over heals better than the original... and I liked the original. I would single one actor out above the others... but I think they were all good. Of course, Six I guess was my favorite. :rolleyes:

I do agree that they are gouging..... and they know it. But then again if the market bears it.... who is to blame. I would rather they release it in BD than not at all. There was a time that I didn't think this would ever come to BD.

Yes, I see the links on that website aren't working anymore. There is a working page for Season 4.5 Blu-ray, which comes out the same day as the complete series set. Retail price is $70, Amazon price is $49. I suppose Universal is maintaining the half-season releases for Blu-ray instead of simply doing full seasons to allow people who bought half-season DVDs to pick and choose what they want to upgrade. That is a owner-friendly touch. Now if they would only do like what Disney is doing with Lost Seasons 1 and 2 and give a $20 rebate per season to Blu-ray buyers who already own the DVD!It could be argued that Disney charged what they did initially for Lost S3 and 4 because they came out day and date with the DVDs (so no one was upgrading to the BD sets), and they lowered the MSRPs considerably for S1 and S2 because many people already owned them on DVD. In other words, they jacked up the MSRP when they could get away with it, lowered them when they couldn't.

At least that's how I feel.

Everyone overcharged when they thought they could get away with it. Agreed, no studio has clean hands but on the other hand, Disney didn't have to do the rebates. No other studio is offering a comparable deal when it releases Blu-ray versions of its TV shows. It deserves some praise. The key is today, where the market has enlarged and there is decent and increasing market penetration of Blu-ray and high def, whether studios will try to charge an exorbitant premium for Blu-ray and whether those of us who care about it will hold their feet to the fire if they do.

peterlee, I think we just keep circling the point: you think $59.25 is a price-gouging ripoff for a season of BSG based on current market conditions, and I don't agree based on a long history of getting hosed by studios. All I know is that I'm going to be a happy guy come July 28th, because there will be a whole mess of BSG to enjoy!

In a perfect world... I'd expect:

Season 1 (includes mini-series prequel) @ $39.95
Season 2 @ $49.95
Season 3 (includes Razor) @ $49.95
Season 4 @ $49.95

That'd be $189.80 total.

In a "collected complete set" deal, I'd either expect $149.95 as a slightly discounted OR I'd expect $199.95 but it comes with extra goodies (like the cylon figure).

So at $225+ I can wait a bit either for a sale or a coupon or something. If it becomes available under $200 I would jump if I have the budget available at the time.

If I had my 'druthers I'd prefer a $150 price-point without extra toys and stuff... but I can live with $200 as that is at least not too out-of-bounds for most TV-on-Blu sets these days. Incidentally, my prices of desire are what I would like to pay, not the MSRP which would likely be way above that so stores could claim 30% off retail "sales" to get to the price-point I'd like.

Fortunately, I stopped buying DVDs after 2.5 came out so I didn't invest too heavily in the DVDs before knowing the Blu would be coming.

We're not so far apart. I do think that $60 per season in a fug-ugly and inconvenient case is too much to ask but I'd probably spring for the standalone seasons if they are in the $50 range. I MUCH prefer the look and convenience of the standalone boxes. I understand where you're coming from with your history of buying overpriced Blu-ray sets. Me, I only recently started buying when prices dropped to levels that I thought was reasonable and not robbery. Whether or not a studio's pricing decision is out of whack with the market, the decision whether it is acceptable is ultimately your own. Enjoy the set!

I was doing laserdiscs when Special Editions were $124.95 for a single movie! Talk about price gouging! :eek:

Sorry I don't have a whole lot of patience for posts that don't stand up to 30 seconds of scrutiny.

Don't mind me...I just like to see a bit of levity infused once in a while.

Cheers,

Brandon

My problem is that I have all the DVD's so far, and I am not sure that it is worth selling them for an upgrade to Blu Ray. I also have the HD-DVD season 1 set as well....The HD-DVD set is a definite upgrade over the season 1 DVD's, especially the sound. These sets are hard to decide if it is worth a hidef upgrade, especially the first couple of seasons, when there is a lot of film grain, and blown out contrast ( as I call it). The space scenes always look good.

I was doing laserdiscs when Special Editions were $124.95 for a single movie! Talk about price gouging! :eek:

I'm in that boat with you! The faux-leather bound T2 Special Edition box set is still a treasure.

What is meant by "how it usually works," and the point of the post, is that box sets typically offer a discounted price compared to buying individually packed seasons. Granted, both are priced high, but his point is valid, just the same.

Bingo. Of course the standalones will cost just as much, if not more then the box set counterparts.

Anyways, I also don't think it's horribly overpriced when we pretty much get 5 seasons ( 73 episodes including the split season 4/4.5 that are 40+ minute shows as apposed to 20 minute tv), The 2 hour mini, The 2 hour movie Razor, and the almost 3 hour finale. Then add on the extras, deleted scenes, commentary, ect (will podcast be included?).

That's a damn lot programming.

Plus it'll drop with specials and discounts.

Funny enough, not including everything extra it's $3 an episode at amazons price point. Funny how cheap that really is from a different perspective.

Just a small thing of note:

The season 1-4 BSG Blu-Rays listed on amazon are for imports... not sure from where though.

That's why the price is a goofy 112.98 and not something more realistic like 99.99 or 89.99.

Check out the Studio listed under all four now as well (BSG Season 1 BR link (http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Season-1-Blu-ray/dp/B002DOBJWE))

The MSRP price should have been a rather large red flag for people that these were not legit US releases.

As of right now, Amazon has the uber-box for $219.99. Since I only have the first two seasons anyway, that's close enough to sanity (considering the usual pricing) for me to pull the trigger on it; we probably won't see it sub-$200 until Black Friday or thereabouts.

Will there be any mail-in rebates for those of us who already dipped on the DVDs and HD DVDs of BSG? That could take a bit of pain off the pricetag.

Probably a slim chance, but I doubt we'd see anything immediately at release.

As of right now, Amazon has the uber-box for $219.99. Since I only have the first two seasons anyway, that's close enough to sanity (considering the usual pricing) for me to pull the trigger on it; we probably won't see it sub-$200 until Black Friday or thereabouts.Ooh, $55 per season. Even better!

Amazon's price is getting better... but still not at my must-have point yet.

History tells us too that virtually all (there are always exceptions) TV show sets drop in price 6 months to a year after their release... so if it doesn't get to a must-buy price by the release date i can wait.

On a related note, Amazon's change in policy last year to no longer do price-matching after the ship date means there's really no incentive to jump early either since invariably the week of release most things like this seem to go on sale for a week while all the stores compete for early-release business.

I do want this... but I can wait for the optimal price for my wallet.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not seeing the Face of the Enemy webisodes included on the set...?

You are right, see here:

http://www.theblurayblog.com/2009/05/the-face-of-the-enemy-webisodes-not-included-in-battlestar-galactica-complete-series-box-set-blu-ray/

This just came from a google search, so I don't know how reliable it is...............for those who have seen the series, is this a major missing feature?

As I understand it The Face of the Enemy is basically a side story for a supporting character...but, being that, it adds some serious color to a short but important arc in the fourth season. So it would be really nice for it to be included...here's hoping it's just a last-minute editing gaffe or something...

Amazon's price is getting better... but still not at my must-have point yet.

History tells us too that virtually all (there are always exceptions) TV show sets drop in price 6 months to a year after their release... so if it doesn't get to a must-buy price by the release date i can wait.

On a related note, Amazon's change in policy last year to no longer do price-matching after the ship date means there's really no incentive to jump early either since invariably the week of release most things like this seem to go on sale for a week while all the stores compete for early-release business.

I do want this... but I can wait for the optimal price for my wallet.

If I learned anything from Amazon, it's pre-order with the hope that they will make a price mistake during the pre-order period and forced to match it with their pre-order guarantee. :) 2-3 days before release, if you dont like the price, cancel it.

Looks alright, except for that blaring misplaced apostrophe on the Time Magazine blurb, "One of the best drama's (sic) on TV"

I know, nobody hired me for the grammar police job, but it's a pet peeve.The product photo at Amazon seems to show the typo's been corrected.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001993Y2C/ref=ox_ya_oh_product

I saw that being on preorder on Amazon already, whether I'd like to spend that much on it, that's another thing.

The Digital Bits has the review up 20 BD-50s of BSG Goodness.:cool:
It does come with Razor.

The UK release is also 20 discs, what are the chances they are the exact same region free releases(without funky player generated subtitles)?

The UK set has better packaging and a lower price, I don't know if I should try to buy this at DD or order the UK set.

The Digital Bits has the review up 20 BD-50s of BSG Goodness.:cool:
It does come with Razor.

The UK release is also 20 discs, what are the chances they are the exact same region free releases(without funky player generated subtitles)?

The UK set has better packaging and a lower price, I don't know if I should try to buy this at DD or order the UK set.

I'd say the chances are pretty good that the releases in various regions are actually the same discs. The HD DVDs of Season 1 that were sold in different countries all used the same discs, just printed/screened differently and packaged with different artwork.

The HD DVDs of Season 1 that were sold in different countries all used the same discs, just printed/screened differently and packaged with different artwork.

I read somewhere that the UK HD DVD release had the UK music, unlike the US release, which had the US music. There's a review of UK set over here (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/playback/blu+ray/exclusive+hands+battlestar+galactica+complete+series+blu+ray +01+07+09) . I've asked the writer if he'd check the region and music, and he said that he would, and get back to me. I'll let you know what he says.

On a related note, can anyone confirm which theme music is used for Season One on the US set?

Maybe I misspoke then. I do know that the AUS HD DVDs were identical to the US releases (same music, discs made in Mexico).

we probably won't see it sub-$200 until Black Friday or thereabouts.

What the heck are you talking about?

You can get BGS1 from Deepdiscount (http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=71060181) and use the 25% off code (HOTSTUFF) (starting on the 28th-DD doesn't accept the code on pre-orders) and use Bing.com for 4% cash back and the total comes to $169 (with free shipping to the U.S.).

What the heck are you talking about?

You can get BGS1 from Deepdiscount (http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=71060181) and use the 25% off code (HOTSTUFF) (starting on the 28th-DD doesn't accept the code on pre-orders) and use Bing.com for 4% cash back and the total comes to $169 (with free shipping to the U.S.).

That's IF DD doesn't jack the price on release day. I went ahead and preordered from DVD Planet using their 25% off code for a total price of $190 shipped. Yah, it's possibly $20 higher than DD, but I told myself that I'd jump as soon as I could find it under $200 shipped.

Someone posted pics of the box on BR.com
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/_chesters_bucket_/Blu-rays/BSG/IMG_2861.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/_chesters_bucket_/Blu-rays/BSG/IMG_2859.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/_chesters_bucket_/Blu-rays/BSG/IMG_2853.jpg
It looks like the cases are housed in cardboard(disc on cardboard surface, ugh), both the discs and cardboard look like they will have too much wear over time.
http://images.play.com/banners/9732597l.jpg
The UK set looks more shelf friendly, and those little booklets look like they are plastic. It also comes with a collector's booklet(wonder if it has episode guides), which, to me, sounds like it will get more use than a figurine.

I guess I'll get the UK set it comes out to around $170 shipped, just a bit more than it would cost at DD with the discount. Fingers crossed these are the exact same as the US.

Buy.com has the set at $175 now, so get in while the gettin's good. ;)

Thanks for the heads up. Told myself today that would be the magic number for me. :) Pre-ordered!

Oh man, I would be all over this if I hadn't just watched the past seasons with some friends a while back. By the time I get around to watching them the price will probably have come down more.

Here we are a few days away from release. Surely somebody has their hands on this set by now.
Is there a mail in rebate for those of us who have already purchased BSG seasons on DVD or HD DVD?
Did they do anything to fix the massive lip sync issues a few episodes of season 1 HD DVD had?
Did they clean up the video for those scenes in Season 1 HD DVD where they obviously had some debris on the camera lens, but made you paranoid that your TV just blew a few pixels?

I think I will be holding off until I see what kind of packaging is going to be used for the individual season releases. I'm definitely not crazy about the complete series packaging, and since I've been watching this show from the beginning, I doubt I will be revisiting it immediately anyway. I will own it at some point however, as I love the show. It is one of the best series of all time in my book.

There are some shots of the packaging on this thread..

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=99210

Also, he says the music on season 1 is different than the rest, which I kinda like.

Here we are a few days away from release. Surely somebody has their hands on this set by now.
Is there a mail in rebate for those of us who have already purchased BSG seasons on DVD or HD DVD?
Did they do anything to fix the massive lip sync issues a few episodes of season 1 HD DVD had?
Did they clean up the video for those scenes in Season 1 HD DVD where they obviously had some debris on the camera lens, but made you paranoid that your TV just blew a few pixels?

No mail in rebate. I could not tell about Season 1 because I only watched Season 4 so far. From the 18 episodes I watched, great video and sound. To me, the show as it looks and sounds on BD is a revelation (compared to the DVD and even, allbeit to a lesser extent, to the HD DVD).

There are some shots of the packaging on this thread..

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=99210

Also, he says the music on season 1 is different than the rest, which I kinda like.

Can you point out which post? I'm not seeing anything that says it's pictures of the UK set.

To me, the show as it looks and sounds on BD is a revelation (compared to the DVD and even, allbeit to a lesser extent, to the HD DVD).

Yeah... the HD-DVD wasn't great, especially the first few episodes. They had really noisy blacks.

Can you point out which post? I'm not seeing anything that says it's pictures of the UK set.

Oh sorry, I thought you wanted the US.

Oh sorry, I thought you wanted the US.

Wasn't me looking for pics, but in reading the repsonses it looks what others wanted was more pics of the UK set hoping it was better than the US set. I tend to agree with them but tend to buy US because of the price.

Wasn't me looking for pics, but in reading the repsonses it looks what others wanted was more pics of the UK set hoping it was better than the US set. I tend to agree with them but tend to buy US because of the price.

I want the UK set, regardless of price. Looks more like a nice series set and less like some dime-store gimmick. But I'll wait till both are available and get the cheaper one if it's at least $10 cheaper.

I want the UK set, regardless of price. Looks more like a nice series set and less like some dime-store gimmick. But I'll wait till both are available and get the cheaper one if it's at least $10 cheaper.

The one in the metal box, right? IMO metal box screams gimmick just as loud as the little figure in the US set.

Why not just 4 regular multi-disc BD boxes in an attractive outer box?

Buy.com has the set at $175 now, so get in while the gettin's good. ;)

Sold out!

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=211112085&listingid=46773728&dcaid=17902

It's back up to $220 on buy.com now.

The more images appear of the U.S. case, the more ill-conceived it appears to be. The case is idiotic. Or maybe Universal deliberately designed an atrocious complete series just to get people to buy the seasons separately for more money. I've really never see a more user-unfriendly case. Cardboard sleeves that you insert the disc into that almost complete cover the surface of the disc? Meaning there's no way to see which disc is which until you take it out of its sleeve?!? Just wait until you accidentally insert a disc from one season into another season's sleeve. Oh the fun searching for the wayward disc!

The UK cases are so far superior and user-friendly with its flippable disc holders and much snazzier artwork for each season as opposed to the same boring Cylon picture the U.S. case. The steel "toaster" case is a gimmick but at least it's not a gimmick that gets in the way of getting to the discs, as the US case does. By comparison, the UK case appears to be a model of thoughtful design.

The one in the metal box, right? IMO metal box screams gimmick just as loud as the little figure in the US set.

Why not just 4 regular multi-disc BD boxes in an attractive outer box?
Best multi-season set I have is The Wire. You can set it on it's side on a shelf, pull the top off and all 5 seasons are there in individual boxes and you slide out which ever one you want. Functional, attractive and inexpensive.

The UK set would have similar functionality though still takes up too much space.

Best multi-season set I have is The Wire. You can set it on it's side on a shelf, pull the top off and all 5 seasons are there in individual boxes and you slide out which ever one you want. Functional, attractive and inexpensive.

The UK set would have similar functionality though still takes up too much space.
It doesn't look like it will, it can't have that much more depth than a standard BD case. The Wire is oblong isn't it? That seems like it would be more of a shelf issue than the UK box. Stupid Planet of the Apes.

Best Box Set by far is Six Feet Under, small footprint, easy access, individual cases, booklet, cd. Plus the entire box is a grave plot complete with grass and tombstone.

I've worked it out that the UK set will run me about $170 shipped.
US with cashback and DD 25% should be $156 total.

I don't think I will be able to dig into these until winter, so I may just wait to see opinions on both, but I don't know if it will be as cheap as the DD price.

So, have we confirmed the UK set will be region free, or are we running on conjecture at this point?

My BD player is a US PS3, and I'm worried about region coding.

Yeah... the HD-DVD wasn't great, especially the first few episodes. They had really noisy blacks.

Which were intentional according to Stephen McNutt. They shot the miniseries on grainy film and spent a few episodes of the series trying to duplicate the look on HD video until they got it right.

I know you folks have been discussing the packaging & I'm coming in on the tail end.....

I've ordered the complete set because I love the show, but frankly I'm tired of some of the funky-ass packaging some studios are using for these collections.

First, it was the Harry Potter set which was cute but added no real value. At least I could see it's appeal because of the movies' audience. But then it was Universals cheap, flimsy box for the HD-DVD set of BSG season 1. Then Paramounts' nutty clamshell plastic contraption for the Star Trek TOS HD-DVD's which broke if you looked at it sideways. Next we have Fox's abomination for Planet of the Apes movies which doesn't fit any std rack or DVD/media shelf.

Now this stupid toaster-box :rolleyes: :p

I just want a std set of BD cases in a bound collector's box that I can set on a Boltz DVD rack - something simple but classy. Candidly I think the cases Universal did for the DVD's of BSG are FAR more attractive, classy & useful than this kiddie-toyland POS. A Cylon figure? Who cares!! Who does Universal think is paying $200-300 for this? 10 yr olds? Sell the toaster for what it is - a f'ing toy for pre-teen boys & let us adults have the shows in nice sets we can display on our shelves!

I'm almost to the point of putting my BSG DVDs in the BD box for sale and keeping the DVD season cases for the BD's!!!

I hope New Lines doesn't end up putting the LOTR BD's in some Frodo figurine :p

ss9001

Why not just 4 regular multi-disc BD boxes in an attractive outer box?

Amen to that! These are not toys, they're movies! I don't recall any studio all these yrs trying to make DVD cases into something toy-like...what's the point of trying to do it now?

I'm tempted to cancel my pre-order due to how retarded the US packaging is. The S1 HD DVD packaging looked cool, but was pretty flimsy and not so functional to get discs on/off the hubs. How difficult can it be to put the discs in a reasonable and functional box?

It looks like this BSG box is going to be about as big as my complete Stargate SG-1 box, but that is holding 10 full SG-1 seasons vs just 4 BSG seasons.

BSG is a great show, though.

My order from BUY.com - Deepdiscount for $175 just shipped. Thanks again for the heads up in this thread. :) I had a 10% coupon for buy.com which made the order $158. Pretty aweswome deal for the complete BSG on Blu!

And as far as the packaging, i'll be simply putting the discs in blu cases and making my own covers. Easy enough. I did it with Band of Brothers and it worked just fine. Fits my shelves just fine. :)

^^
Great solution! :D

I was at Costco tonight and they had the $229 box set on sale already. I looked at the set at the store and really was not impressed with the packaging at all. First thing I noticed was how light weight the box felt ( thin card board ), and the little plastic cylon seemed rather cheap. Oh, well.... I have my set on order at Amazon, I have a $100 gift card. At least I know the series is good, but I have a feeling most people will discard the packaging.

I've got it preordered from Amazon. I like the idea of getting blank BD cases and making our own. Do they make multi-disc blank cases or thin style cases like the DVD's are in? I can scan the cover art from the DVD cases (which I really liked) & use. I actually thought the box cover art from the season DVD cases was pretty great.

The more I look at the expanded pics from digitalbits' BD review, the lamer it looks.
O yeah, on the cylon figure - considering BSG is adult SF, who is the intended audience for this piece of throwaway plastic junk??

I guess it would have been too sexist to put in a mini #6 or Boomer in the box ;)

ss9001

Yeah, when I picked the box set up in my hands, I was really surprised how light weight the thing felt. I sort of expected the box be the thickness of a board game box, or something similar. It is really cheap fealing.

I forget.. do we know the per-season breakdown of discs?

I ask, for those considering moving the discs to another case... It'd be interesting to know what kind of multi-disc cases to look for if I go that route myself.

Why oh why couldn't they just use those slim cases they used for the DVD sets? We know they come in BD flavors (Matrix set, Star Trek set, etc. come in slim BD cases), so there really wasn't any excuse to skimp on this... and it probably would have been cheaper to manufacture.

i have a review up over at UAV (ultimateavmag.com).

Best,

Dave,
Thanks for the review!
I agree with all your comments on the show & I'm sure we will be impressed with the PQ/AQ. However, I must disagree that the cylon figurine is a "cool" thing to include. No offense, but it's childish! :)

You seemed to hedge your comments on the box by calling it "unique", "unusual size", etc. I think its a travesty to package a multi-hundred dollar collectors set in this fashion. Its not practical for storage, not user-friendly to have to do without an episode guide, not even the best for disc handling as you pointed out due to difficulty avoiding putting fingerprints on the discs. And this is OK?? BS!

People who dream up this crap need to get the message that it's not liked and appreciated. Reviewers like yourself can help send that clear message! Unless you really did find the box acceptable for collectors, just do it! Tell the truth that it sucks and maybe the marketing dimwits will get the idea to just put these collector sets in nice, classy boxes.

I can name many examples that are preferable to this, IMO.

Come on, help us out here & just tell it like it is. Only then will we get hi-quality packaging instead of something that might appeal to a 10 yr old....:rolleyes:

Cool? My plan for the toaster figurine is the trash can! I have no use for it. I'm not into cluttering my media room with cheap plastic junk. Call me an old fart, but I'm about as much an SF movie enthusiast as you can get & I never collected Star Wars paraphenalia even when the movies came out when I was only in my late 20's - 30's. There's a place for the figurines & it's in Toys-4-Us! Let them sell them there for those that want them & leave that crap out of movie sets.

The irony is that BSG is NOT a kid's SF show, altho I'm sure many pre-teens & teens enjoyed it. It's a show with adult themes, adult-ish language, adult driven drama & dialog and adult outcomes for the characters. There really is nothing childish about the show at all to warrant the inclusion of a toy in the box set & a box that has no lasting usefulness for pulling out discs & watching the shows.

ss9001

Absolutely love the show but waiting on the UK box...

^
Curious, how's the UK box differ?

and yes, I consider BSG, along with Babylon 5, the best sci-fi shows ever done :)

And that's the only reason I held my nose on the box & bought the BD set anyway

Here is a link to the amazon.uk page for there BSG set (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battlestar-Galactica-Complete-Blu-ray/dp/B0027UY8B8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248581313&sr=8-1). If what is pictured really is the packageing then it is a clear winner over the US version. This may be my first import.

Dave,
Thanks for the review!
I agree with all your comments on the show & I'm sure we will be impressed with the PQ/AQ. However, I must disagree that the cylon figurine is a "cool" thing to include. No offense, but it's childish! :)

You seemed to hedge your comments on the box by calling it "unique", "unusual size", etc. I think its a travesty to package a multi-hundred dollar collectors set in this fashion. Its not practical for storage, not user-friendly to have to do without an episode guide, not even the best for disc handling as you pointed out due to difficulty avoiding putting fingerprints on the discs. And this is OK?? BS!

People who dream up this crap need to get the message that it's not liked and appreciated. Reviewers like yourself can help send that clear message! Unless you really did find the box acceptable for collectors, just do it! Tell the truth that it sucks and maybe the marketing dimwits will get the idea to just put these collector sets in nice, classy boxes.

I can name many examples that are preferable to this, IMO.

Come on, help us out here & just tell it like it is. Only then will we get hi-quality packaging instead of something that might appeal to a 10 yr old....:rolleyes:

Cool? My plan for the toaster figurine is the trash can! I have no use for it. I'm not into cluttering my media room with cheap plastic junk. Call me an old fart, but I'm about as much an SF movie enthusiast as you can get & I never collected Star Wars paraphenalia even when the movies came out when I was only in my late 20's - 30's. There's a place for the figurines & it's in Toys-4-Us! Let them sell them there for those that want them & leave that crap out of movie sets.

The irony is that BSG is NOT a kid's SF show, altho I'm sure many pre-teens & teens enjoyed it. It's a show with adult themes, adult-ish language, adult driven drama & dialog and adult outcomes for the characters. There really is nothing childish about the show at all to warrant the inclusion of a toy in the box set & a box that has no lasting usefulness for pulling out discs & watching the shows.

ss9001

We have a small collection of movie characters that we display in a movie themed bathroom, so for me, I like the figurine.

The packaging itself looks good sitting on a table, which I have in my theater room, but I'm not in love with it at all. I would prefer just "normal" cases to put with the rest of my collection. I have a hard time trashing the studio on the packaging though...it is an improvement over the HD DVD :D, but I can see A LOT of people not liking it.

Who the hell is in charge of the packing for BSG on the HD formats? It's probably the same guy that thought the HD-DVD was a good idea.
How hard can it be to package them?

The telescopic core box doesn't really relate to the BSG series anyway. Does it resemble an FTL? Part of a Basestar? UNi said it was Limited. I wonder if it is limited enough to be gone by the end of the year.:)

I'm really considering plunking down the $170 for the UK set. I would just like a confirmation that the booklet has episode information.

BTW - Good review Dave. Does the packaging look like it will hold up over time, without getting "worn"?

i have a review up over at UAV (ultimateavmag.com).

Best,

I've had the boxset for a over a week now and I basically agree with your review, except that the variation in PQ does not bother at all, since it is, as you explicitely state, intentional, and even the most gritty parts look incredibly
better than the DVD. I didn't take the time to compare the PQ and AQ of the first season with the HDDVD though; did you?

Here is a link to the http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=82252583&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=443065849&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=1377033286&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=706611764&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=441372548&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 amazon.uk page for there BSG set. If what is pictured really is the packageing then it is a clear winner over the US version. This may be my first import.

From what I've read, it's not region B locked, but if SD extras are PAL, it may be a problem.

I have to think about it since I still have time to cancel my Amazon US pre-order. A bonus would be that at current exchange rate, it's a bit cheaper! Universal must have concluded the European market has a more sophisticated buyer :p

Sorry Dave V, bbut we seriously disagree on the toaster. If you have a place to display movie trinkets that's great, but you could have bought it as a separate item. That's what I said, for those that want one, buy one, but make it not part of the deal. Universal is assuming that all US buyers like toys ;)

Also, how "green" is it to include made in China, oil-consuming trinkets that many will just throw away. Hey, maybe it does fit our energy-wasting US culture! :p :p :p

And maybe, just maybe, Universal was smart enough to know the greener European market wouldn't take to plastic junk in their cases :eek:

OK, my main objection is not the toaster but the dumb box & the way discs are displayed & stored.

ss9001

I have a hard time trashing the studio on the packaging though...it is an improvement over the HD DVD :D

Why?

Calling it an improvement is hardly a good reason for not calling a spade a spade.

It's probably the same guy that thought the HD-DVD was a good idea.


Hey! Hey, hey, hey! :D Don't disparage the good efforts of our HD-DVD boys and girls. It was a bang-up format! Even my GIRLFRIEND likes it when we watch Heroes (in HD DVD) because we don't have to deal with slow load times, menus and other annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff that's coming out on Blu, especially BSG. I am glad we have at least ONE hi-def format.

There really is nothing childish about the show at all to warrant the inclusion of a toy in the box set & a box that has no lasting usefulness for pulling out discs & watching the shows.


+1

Yet they keep making this stuff because people keep buying it, and the market for collectibles related to genre shows continues to grow.

I believe it's this stuff -- the collectibles, the conventions, the fannishness... the childishness -- that prevents shows like BSG from being taken seriously by the Hollywood establishment when Emmy-nomination time rolls around. This is not necessarily a bad thing or a good thing.

Who the hell is in charge of the packing for BSG on the HD formats? It's probably the same guy that thought the HD-DVD was a good idea.
How hard can it be to package them?

The telescopic core box doesn't really relate to the BSG series anyway. Does it resemble an FTL? Part of a Basestar? UNi said it was Limited. I wonder if it is limited enough to be gone by the end of the year.:)

I'm really considering plunking down the $170 for the UK set. I would just like a confirmation that the booklet has episode information.

BTW - Good review Dave. Does the packaging look like it will hold up over time, without getting "worn"?

The telescoping box is solid and isn't cheaply made. The Season boxes are another story...flimsy comes to mind. My biggest gripe about the set is the lack of an episode listing. To forget that is unconscionable.

Hey! Hey, hey, hey! :D Don't disparage the good efforts of our HD-DVD boys and girls. It was a bang-up format! Even my GIRLFRIEND likes it when we watch Heroes (in HD DVD) because we don't have to deal with slow load times, menus and other annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff that's coming out on Blu, especially BSG. I am glad we have at least ONE hi-def format.
I was referring specifically to the BSG HD-DVD packaging, not the format.:cool:
The Season boxes are another story...flimsy comes to mind. My biggest gripe about the set is the lack of an episode listing. To forget that is unconscionable.
That's the part that was my biggest concern. Fingers crossed the UK booklet has episode information, and not just character bios and pictures.
Disney did away with episode guides for the new Lost releases. I guess they cost too much to print??? LOL.

I was referring specifically to the BSG HD-DVD packaging, not the format.:cool: ...

I strongly agree. The BSG Season 1 HD DVD package may have looked cool in pictures, but it is truly among the worst packagings ever made. It had zero rigidity to it. The clear plastic outer shell is thinner than your typical gallon of milk container; probably closer to the plastic of cheap bottled water. It is exactly like the plastic outer shell of Star Trek: Deep Space 9 season packs, but those have rigid interiors. Inside this flimsy plastic is, effectively, cereal box cardboard that is folded half a dozen times. And for disc retention, there are rubber hubs glued to the cardboard. It is very difficult to get discs on or off these hubs. It would be virtually impossible for them to make anything worse.

And for the BD packaging, for something that has a $350 MSRP, I have extremely high expectations. I wouldn't mind if each season came in its own shell similar to Lost, Die Hard collection, Blade Runner, Planet Earth, or even Heroes, and then have one large wrapper case around the 4 seasons. This telescoping package with each season facing a different direction sounds like it wants to be cool, but once people try fitting it on their media shelves, it seems like it will be dysfunctional.

Looking past the packaging, BSG really is a great show.

What's with all the hate for the toy? It's one thing to say, "That toy's dumb," and move on without giving it a second thought. But to be so violently opposed to its existence is a little weird.

I don't have any problems with toys. I like them quite a bit, actually. And I think we've reached a point in time in which toys based on a particular movie or show no longer suggest that that program is geared towards kids. Instead, it suggests that it's geared towards cool people.

And if the inclusion of a Cylon action figure in the box set sends up a red flag to the Emmy voters that BSG is not worthy of critical praise, then it just goes to show that Emmy voters are narrow-minded and living in the past. With that outlook, a show as progressive as BSG doesn't stand a chance to begin with, toy or no.

What's with all the hate for the toy? It's one thing to say, "That toy's dumb," and move on without giving it a second thought. But to be so violently opposed to its existence is a little weird.
I think the problem with the toy stems from the idea that the toy was probably the brainchild of the person who came up with the box design. It follows that if you get rid of the person who did the toy, you'll likely also be rid of the person who came up with this incredibly stupid box set design.

I really really want to buy this, loved the show quite a bit, but I can't get past this packaging decision, especially not at this price. I may grab the Season 4.5 set and just hope the others get released later...

One thing to note is each season does come in its own box, which can be removed from the cube and stored in a more "normal" fashion. I would have preferred different packaging, but I'm more concerned with the content on the discs themselves, which is outstanding.

I too will hold off in the hopes of better packaging once this POS has had its last run. By then I'll probably have forgotten much of the minute details of the show, and I'll enjoy it better viewing the HD version from the start.

One thing to note is each season does come in its own box, which can be removed from the cube and stored in a more "normal" fashion. I would have preferred different packaging, but I'm more concerned with the content on the discs themselves, which is outstanding.
My understanding from the above was that the individual season boxes within the larger box are the "flimsy" boxes. Also, the way they're stored within those individual boxes looks less than desirable. I'm hopeful the 4.5 set will either have individual thin cases or a large case ala Planet Earth / Blade Runner.

What's with all the hate for the toy? It's one thing to say, "That toy's dumb," and move on without giving it a second thought. But to be so violently opposed to its existence is a little weird.

I think that if there was an option to buy the "regular" BSG Complete Season without the swag and packaging, less people would be upset about it and simply just buy the cheaper one.

Brandon

I think that if there was an option to buy the "regular" BSG Complete Season without the swag and packaging, less people would be upset about it and simply just buy the cheaper one.

Brandon

Agreed.

I think that if there was an option to buy the "regular" BSG Complete Season without the swag and packaging, less people would be upset about it and simply just buy the cheaper one.

Brandon

bingo :)

And there's no "hate" toward the toy or the box :rolleyes:
but pissed off at the stupid people who dream up these ideas & approve them as "neat" for the masses.

ss9001

Come on, help us out here & just tell it like it is. Only then will we get hi-quality packaging instead of something that might appeal to a 10 yr old....:rolleyes:

Cool? My plan for the toaster figurine is the trash can! I have no use for it. I'm not into cluttering my media room with cheap plastic junk. Call me an old fart, but I'm about as much an SF movie enthusiast as you can get & I never collected Star Wars paraphenalia even when the movies came out when I was only in my late 20's - 30's. There's a place for the figurines & it's in Toys-4-Us! Let them sell them there for those that want them & leave that crap out of movie sets.

The irony is that BSG is NOT a kid's SF show, altho I'm sure many pre-teens & teens enjoyed it. It's a show with adult themes, adult-ish language, adult driven drama & dialog and adult outcomes for the characters. There really is nothing childish about the show at all to warrant the inclusion of a toy in the box set & a box that has no lasting usefulness for pulling out discs & watching the shows.


I would suggest that your rant on the inclusion of the Cylon action figure is more childish than the inclusion of the item in the box set.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you want to throw it away, knock yourself out. I think you overestimate when you assume that your opinion represents the masses.

Agreed. Opinions are often best kept to ones self. I for one collect cool packaging. Like the batpod packaging for dark knight and the trunk for the harry potter blurays. Studios release these things for a reason, to appease true fans of the series not that nerds want perfect uniformity on their shelves in alphabetical order in perfect height and width. Some people need to get lives.

Agreed. Opinions are often best kept to ones self. I for one collect cool packaging

This is an internet forum. What else is there but to express opinions? After disclaiming that people should keep their opinion to themselves, you write that you like "cool" packaging like the Dark Knight and Harry Potter sets, that these things appeal to "true fans" and not "nerds [who] want perfect uniformity." Gee, all those sound like opinions to me.

ss9001 expressed his opinion forcefully on the BSG set. He's entitled to do so and this is the place and the thread to do it. You are entitled to express your contrary opinion as forcefully. But it's completely out of bounds for you to attack another poster for speaking his mind when he hasn't done so in a way that violates the rules here. Telling another poster to get a life skirts far closer to violating the prohibition on personal attacks here than anything ss9001 wrote.

^^
thank you

I'm only being as forceful as I have been to help get more people who don't like the way these collector sets are boxed to come out and state so. Maybe, some people at the studios will eventually get the hint. Or at least, offer traditional boxing for us traditionalists and "unique" ;) boxes for those that want them.

For you who are criticizing my opinion or obstinance, you should go back & read the threads when BSG Season 1 came out on HD-DVD. Hundreds of unhappy owners, with cracked discs due to the nubs, flimsy box, on & on. So this is not new or isolated situation. For some reason, Universal wants funky boxes for hi-def BSG :eek:

The least Universal could do is put the episode guides in the box :rolleyes:. With all these discs, it'd be nice to know what's on them!

ss9001

I think you overestimate when you assume that your opinion represents the masses.

Really?

I'll bet there are more posters in this thread stating they don't like it or will wait for different packaging than do.

Shall we start counting them?

ss9001

Really?

I'll bet there are more posters in this thread stating they don't like it or will wait for different packaging than do.

Shall we start counting them?

ss9001

Lurkers too :)

I really don't care for the gimmicks either... especially when they cost me more than a non-gimmicked set would.

That said, I want the content more than I want to protest the gimmick... so when left with no other option, I buy the gimmick to get the content.

I'm not one of those who has to have everything on my shelf match exactly or anything... but standard multi-disc cases would always be my preference for TV season sets.

I really don't care for the gimmicks either... especially when they cost me more than a non-gimmicked set would.

That said, I want the content more than I want to protest the gimmick... so when left with no other option, I buy the gimmick to get the content.

I'm not one of those who has to have everything on my shelf match exactly or anything... but standard multi-disc cases would always be my preference for TV season sets.Kind of reminds me of what is to come, for classics like Gone With The Wind and Wizard of OZ. Overzelous packaging, adding to the price of the movie. Not interested in paying for more cardboard or plastic. I just want the movies released in an organized format, that fits in my HD case shelving units and yes, that HD DVD 1st season is a pain in the butt to store in said cabinet.

Kind of reminds me of what is to come, for classics like Gone With The Wind and Wizard of OZ. Overzealous packaging, adding to the price of the movie. Not interested in paying for more cardboard or plastic. I just want the movies released in an organized format, that fits in my HD case shelving units and yes, that HD DVD 1st season is a pain in the butt to store in said cabinet.

What's worse is when you try to take a disc out, you may break it in two out of said HD DVD packaging. To add insult to injury, when my copy of season one arrived it was lacking the 4th disc, that must have fallen off the piece of crap rubber holder on the flimsy case :D

The outerbox is really sturdy. The individual season boxes are not that flimsy but I would not line them up on a shelf. They boxes would most likely pancake.

I never owned the HD-DVDs as I read about all those issues. I can say this set has no issues on my PS3. It sounds amazing and if you are familiar with the production of the show it also looks better than it ever has.

If you are a fan of the show and can justify the price, go for it. If not I'm sure it will be cheaper in a few months. I know I'm going to be starting from the begining.

What's worse is when you try to take a disc out, you may break it in two out of said HD DVD packaging. To add insult to injury, when my copy of season one arrived it was lacking the 4th disc, that must have fallen off the piece of crap rubber holder on the flimsy case :DYou should have bought the UK verison of the HD-DVD set, which came in a nice digipack. The Brits were the more sane "packagers" back then too. :) BTW, this is supposedly what the UK version of the complete BD set looks inside (picture is from the DVD version, but it looks to be the same except possibly different colors):

http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/4gsdgjk9/bsgcmpl.gif (http://img5.imagebanana.com/)

Also a bit silly, but at least practical and a more reasonable size ...

I`ll wait for each season to come out seperately.

I`ll wait for each season to come out seperately.

Will they include the other extras, such as Razor or even the pre-mini-series?

Can anyone confirm that the USA Blu-Ray set works on Region B players? Cant quite fork out 200+$ for a set that may or may not work. Dont want to wait for the UK set and would love to buy it now.

Who the hell is in charge of the packing for BSG on the HD formats? It's probably the same guy that thought the HD-DVD was a good idea.
How hard can it be to package them?

The telescopic core box doesn't really relate to the BSG series anyway. Does it resemble an FTL? Part of a Basestar? UNi said it was Limited. I wonder if it is limited enough to be gone by the end of the year.:)

I'm really considering plunking down the $170 for the UK set. I would just like a confirmation that the booklet has episode information.

BTW - Good review Dave. Does the packaging look like it will hold up over time, without getting "worn"?

I'll be picking up mine tuesday morning but what to do about the awful package? no one has yet created covers to place the discs in standard cases multi-discs cases are rare to say the least can the collective minds of avsforum come up with a solution?

Will they include the other extras, such as Razor or even the pre-mini-series?

The invididual SD releases included those. No reason to believe the BD seasons would be any different if released seperately.

Who the hell is in charge of the packing for BSG on the HD formats? It's probably the same guy that thought the HD-DVD was a good idea.
How hard can it be to package them?

The telescopic core box doesn't really relate to the BSG series anyway. Does it resemble an FTL? Part of a Basestar? UNi said it was Limited. I wonder if it is limited enough to be gone by the end of the year.:)

I'm really considering plunking down the $170 for the UK set. I would just like a confirmation that the booklet has episode information.

BTW - Good review Dave. Does the packaging look like it will hold up over time, without getting "worn"?

I think it depends on how often the packaging is handled. If it's an everyday occurrence, then they won't last long since they're cardboard. At some point I'll probably get a multi-disc case for these (if they become available), and make some custom cover art for them. What's sad is the disc art is fabulous and it's hidden in the dang accordion packaging, that I'm afraid won't hold up too well over the years.

What's sad is the disc art is fabulous and it's hidden in the dang accordion packaging, that I'm afraid won't hold up too well over the years.
Yeah that's what I was wondering about. How it will hold up over time. Looks like I'll wait until the end of September to get the UK set. It looks more compact and each disc is easily visible, but they have those damn ratings logos on them.

Just got my amazon.com mailed notification yay

I wish every "Complete Series" set copied Fox's packaging used on the Buffy and Angel series sets. Compact, accessible, discs in decent trays rather than "sleeves" or cardboard slots.

Brandon, what you describe looks to be exactly the type of packaging the Brits and the Aussies will be getting with their complete series sets - simple, functional, and discs in trays.
http://www.nixelectronics.co.uk/WebRoot/BT3/Shops/BT2530/MediaGallery/battlestar.jpg http://www.nixelectronics.co.uk/WebRoot/BT3/Shops/BT2530/49FD/6817/758D/C050/BBBE/0A0A/33E8/27F6/battlestar_0020_galatica.jpg

How "great" that UK/AU packaging will be is greatly affected by how easily that outer metal dents. Quite often it's near impossible to get a undented copy in the mail when sets use thin metal cases.

I wonder whether that box is higher than a DVD-case. I hate it when boxes don´t fit into my shelves.

Like the metal band of brothers DVD-box.

Does anybody know?


I´ll probably import it regardless. Don´t feel like waiting. The fourth season wasn´t even on TV here so it will take months if not years until that thing comes to the German market!

How "great" that UK/AU packaging will be is greatly affected by how easily that outer metal dents. Quite often it's near impossible to get a undented copy in the mail when sets use thin metal cases.

I think the same thing could be said of thin cardboard packaging, and at least metal doesn't rip very easily, as I've had flimsy boxsets do on occasion while in the pack/ship process.

Will the UK version of BSG have anything edited from the episodes? Head butts seem to be taboo to the British censors for some bizarre reason (tons of sex and bloody gore- that's a-okay, but a head butt? That's just too much! ;) ), so who knows what edits there could be.

Anyone know for sure?

There are no cuts to the UK home video releases. This can be checked by going to the website of the British Board of Film Classification, which, along with theatrical ratings, is also charged with classifying home video recordings. Do a search for Battlestar Galactica in the section for classification decisions. The decisions list what edits, if any, have been made. All the Battlestar discs are listed as "This work was passed with no cuts made."

There are no cuts to the UK home video releases. This can be checked by going to the website of the British Board of Film Classification, which, along with theatrical ratings, is also charged with classifying home video recordings. Do a search for Battlestar Galactica in the section for classification decisions. The decisions list what edits, if any, have been made. All the Battlestar discs are listed as "This work was passed with no cuts made."

Thanks!

One could assume then that the discs then have the exact same transfers and the same DTS-MA 5.1 tracks, with the same extras (no PAL video) as the U.S. version? And it's region free?

I may just have to go with the UK version then if that's the case and hope no damage occurs in shipping. The U.S. packaging just looks terrible and poorly conceived IMHO.

I`ll wait for each season to come out seperately.I may do the same, buying season's 2 through 4 and keeping my HD DVD season 1.

I may do the same, buying season's 2 through 4 and keeping my HD DVD season 1.

I thought of doing that, but am concerned how long it will take Universal to finish the series. Look at The Sopranos...3 yrs into the formats & not anywhere close to being completed. Also, Paramount will have taken over 2 yrs for Star Trek TOS, even considering the format war is over. On Star Trek, I did decide to keep the HD-DVD set of season 1 & just add the BD's for S.2 & 3.

Even tho I really dislike the BSG boxing, I figured better to get the whole thing now rather than wait possibly another 2 yrs for them to bring out all the seasons.

I may end up transferring the discs to blank twin disc BD cases & throw the cardboard season boxes away. Once the set arrives, I can better determine options for better shelf packaging. I may use dupes of the DVD sets' cover art with the BD cases & maybe even use the DVD season boxes which I thought looked pretty good.

Maybe even try bundling all the DVD's & the HD-DVD set in the BD case if they'll fit & put up for sale...

ss9001

I thought of doing that, but am concerned how long it will take Universal to finish the series. Look at The Sopranos...3 yrs into the formats & not anywhere close to being completed. Also, Paramount will have taken over 2 yrs for Star Trek TOS, even considering the format war is over. On Star Trek, I did decide to keep the HD-DVD set of season 1 & just add the BD's for S.2 & 3.

Even tho I really dislike the BSG boxing, I figured better to get the whole thing now rather than wait possibly another 2 yrs for them to bring out all the seasons.

I may end up transferring the discs to blank twin disc BD cases & throw the cardboard season boxes away. Once the set arrives, I can better determine options for better shelf packaging. I may use dupes of the DVD sets' cover art with the BD cases & maybe even use the DVD season boxes which I thought looked pretty good.

Maybe even try bundling all the DVD's & the HD-DVD set in the BD case if they'll fit & put up for sale...

ss9001

Walmart.com has a pre-order for Season 1 coming 9/22/09.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11978809

Walmart.com has a pre-order for Season 1 coming 9/22/09.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11978809

Interesting. However, it is listed at approx $65 for Season 1. Though it may not necessarily be accurate, if we assume that the other individual seasons will be priced similarly, then it will be $260 for all 4 seasons individually, vs. something closer to the $200 range for the 4 season pack. For those like me who already have season 1 on HD DVD, getting the other 3 on BD at 65/season would still be $195, which is very close to price of the 4 season pack.

I thought of doing that, but am concerned how long it will take Universal to finish the series. Look at The Sopranos...3 yrs into the formats & not anywhere close to being completed. Also, Paramount will have taken over 2 yrs for Star Trek TOS, even considering the format war is over. On Star Trek, I did decide to keep the HD-DVD set of season 1 & just add the BD's for S.2 & 3.

The key difference being that every season of BSG will have actually been released on BD. Makes sense that they will do seasons to get those who feel the price is too high for the set, or really only want to upgrade 1 or 2 seasons. Like others have posted, I'm going to wait and hope for seasons.

I have season 1 on hd-dvd. That's as far as I got in the series. Would really like to own the complete series but $200+ is out of my budget. Well not really out of my budget but out of what i would be willing to fork out.

Walmart.com has a pre-order for Season 1 coming 9/22/09.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11978809

Amazon France also has Season 1 Blu-ray as being released there on the 9/22/09:

http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00290FWKC/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p74_t1?pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1DZZNK3WXMM6JSS6A991&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375513&pf_rd_i=405320

I don't think it's a coincidence that the UK complete set is being released on 9/21/09. In Europe, Universal is evidently releasing the complete set and individual seasons together. Although other individual seasons preorders are not yet up on European sites, I think they will be forthcoming shortly. Once they're released in Europe, I don't think Universal will hold them back from the U.S. Amazon France's list price for Season 1 is 46,49 euros, which is approximately the same as Walmart's list price of 90 U.S. dollars.

I wouldn't worry the current Walmart price holding. Walmart's sales price of $65 is only a 28% discount off list price. By contrast, the discount for Season 4.5 is currently at 43% at Amazon and Best Buy. Assuming that pattern holds, Season 1 should go for around $50 at the big retailers.

For what it's worth, my intent is to buy the individual seasons. Special sales and coupons are always around so with some patience, I think there's a good shot of getting all seasons at the same or lower total price as the complete set. For example, I'm going to order Season 4.5 at Deep Discount using the 25% coupon code, which will bring its cost down to $33.

For what it's worth, my intent is to buy the individual seasons. Special sales and coupons are always around so with some patience, I think there's a good shot of getting all seasons at the same or lower total price as the complete set. For example, I'm going to order Season 4.5 at Deep Discount using the 25% coupon code, which will bring its cost down to $33.

I just decided to do the same. I was going to get the complete set, but I'm really not a fan of the packaging. Aside from the missing episode guides, it really is fugly. I like uniformity myself and that thing will stick out like a sore thumb (I don't even like the Matrix Blu release because it's slightly taller/thinner than normal cases).

I figure this way I can get 4.5 now, enjoy the extended episodes while the rest of the series is still fairly fresh in my head (did a re-watch before 4.5 and unlike some I loved the final season), and by the time they release all the seasons I'd have forgotten some of it, and I can re-watch them all on Blu. Plus I can see what they decide to do with the missing webisodes.

By the way, I know we're all getting on the case of whoever designed this thing (as we should), but we shouldn't forget that someone actually gave it the green light as well. It's one thing to be a horrible designer and not realize it, it's another to look at this ass-ugly box and say, "Yes...this is the design we're going to use." Seriously...how hard is it to put out a normal looking set?

Can no-one so far 100% confirm or deny that the set is region free and works on Region B players and PS3??

My fingers itch to order this from Amazon :)

I went ahead and decided to order it from Amazon, crappy packaging and all. I have not seen a single episode so hopefully I am in for a treat. =)

I have season 1 on hd-dvd. That's as far as I got in the series. Would really like to own the complete series but $200+ is out of my budget. Well not really out of my budget but out of what i would be willing to fork out.



It's ~$165 right now in the DD sale. It's out of stock, but you can lock in the price now (sale runs thru Sunday I believe).

I have not seen a single episode so hopefully I am in for a treat. =)

You definitely are! :D

Be prepared for one of the best SF shows ever created. Very high drama, gritty, believable characters - warts & all, great story ark & pretty good special effects. If you are a SF fan at all, you will be impressed!

This is NOT your typical scifi.

ss9001

One thing to note is each season does come in its own box, which can be removed from the cube and stored in a more "normal" fashion. I would have preferred different packaging, but I'm more concerned with the content on the discs themselves, which is outstanding.

That reminds me, I did this with my original BSG season that came in some funky Cylon head packaging. I tossed the Cylon head packaging in a storage closet; I can't bring myself to throw those kinds of things in the trash. And my original BSG season set is on my media shelves next to the DVDs/HD DVDs of seasons 1-3 of the new BSG.

This set is pushing me over the edge to get a BR player.

And for those that think this series is good, check out Caprica, its really going to knock your socks off.

That reminds me, I did this with my original BSG season that came in some funky Cylon head packaging. I tossed the Cylon head packaging in a storage closet; I can't bring myself to throw those kinds of things in the trash. And my original BSG season set is on my media shelves next to the DVDs/HD DVDs of seasons 1-3 of the new BSG.

True. And interstingly enough, that packaging was only for the first run. They released the exact same discs in a much more simple design after that first run. Basically the same inner fold out box within a simple outer slip case. They even let folks who purchased the huge head box (like me) to send away for the newer slipcase and resized book.

There is some hope the same will be done with this set.

I'll definitely wait for individual seasons if they're coming. The series set is a monstrosity that I have no place for.

I hope they come out with individual seasons on Blu-ray. I have all the DVD sets, but I'm buying 4.5 on Blu-ray, even though it's going to piss me off that the Blu-ray case won't match the rest of the bulky DVD boxes. It doesn't help that Best Buy has the Blu-ray on sale for only $7 more than the DVD. I just can't bring myself to buy it on DVD over Blu-ray.

I hope they come out with individual seasons on Blu-ray. I have all the DVD sets, but I'm buying 4.5 on Blu-ray, even though it's going to piss me off that the Blu-ray case won't match the rest of the bulky DVD boxes. It doesn't help that Best Buy has the Blu-ray on sale for only $7 more than the DVD. I just can't bring myself to buy it on DVD over Blu-ray.

They've already announced that the individual seasons will be available later in the year. And you should jump on the Deep Discount sale for Season 4.5. It comes out to something like $32 or $33 after discount.

They've already announced that the individual seasons will be available later in the year. And you should jump on the Deep Discount sale for Season 4.5. It comes out to something like $32 or $33 after discount.

Thanks. I'll check that out.

I just picked up my copy, and put it on my shelf to see if I was underestimating how inconvenient this box isn't. It sticks out two inches further than a normal BD cases, and stands two inches higher. It's as wide as about 15 single BD cases, so in that sense, it's more compact than your average movie.

Personally, I think the idea of not buying the best television series ever produced because it sticks out 2 inches further than the rest of your collection is off-the-wall crazy insane. :)

Personally, I think the idea of not buying the best television series ever produced because it sticks out 2 inches further than the rest of your collection is off-the-wall crazy insane. :)

Well said!!!

I'm just waiting for a bit lower price here in the Great White North and it's mine.

Maybe they should have looked at the Deadwood packaging for the way to do the packaging....a lot easier to deal with.

...the best television series ever produced

don't forget Lost :)

It'd be tough to pick a clear #1, but between the 2, overall I'd give the nod to BSG just for the acting. Olmos is absolutely top-notch. And everyone else in the show is just about as good.

Lost has some really neat characters & great acting, but just a smidgeon below BSG, I think.

Either way, they are both fantastic shows to watch & re-watch so well worth owning.

ss9001

Maybe they should have looked at the Deadwood packaging for the way to do the packaging....a lot easier to deal with.

Agreed, Deadwood & Rome both had really high class packaging. Now those boxes are what I would call great collectibles ;)

This set is pushing me over the edge to get a BR player.

And for those that think this series is good, check out Caprica, its really going to knock your socks off.

Got the DVD, we watched it & it has very good potential....:)
I hope the producers/writers can sustain it past the critical first season. So many shows that have potential don't make it.

Definitely off topic, but watching 2 episodes of Warehouse 13 shows how special the BSG series really was. Zero comparison there :p

I watched the Ron Moore one-off, Virtuality, and hope it makes it to a series.....it also has potential.

Edit - Kwisatz, I just noted your username :eek: - one of the all time great SF novels (& movie). You & I must have same tastes & thats scary!

don't forget Lost :)

It'd be tough to pick a clear #1, but between the 2, overall I'd give the nod to BSG just for the acting. Olmos is absolutely top-notch. And everyone else in the show is just about as good.

Lost has some really neat characters & great acting, but just a smidgeon below BSG, I think.

Either way, they are both fantastic shows to watch & re-watch so well worth owning.

ss9001

I give the edge to "Lost" overall. The 4th season of BSG pales in comparison to the first 3 IMO, although I did like the way they wrapped up the series.

I give the edge to "Lost" overall. The 4th season of BSG pales in comparison to the first 3 IMO, although I did like the way they wrapped up the series.

Blah! You can't even compare BSG to Lost... Lost is not even in the same league.

Blah! You can't even compare BSG to Lost... Lost is not even in the same league.
That's what I thought too. Then I watched season 4 of Lost. And from then on nothing is in the same league as Lost.

Don't get me wrong I love BSG, but Lost does win out over it by a bit. Both need to be watched though, and both deserve an Emmy and more awards period. Sorry for going off topic, there's no way this discussion can end well, so it should probably just end.

^^
Lost #1
BSG #2

Or

BSG #1
Lost #2

Either way, we all win! Best TV seen in years and both are must-haves :D

So... anyone have this in their grubby little paws yet? I'm determined to wait on it, but damned if I wasn't tempted when I saw the SOLE copy on Blu Ray they had at the local Walmart here. Of course the $239 (canadian) price tag & the fact that I really don't have $239 today to spend on such an item made me put the borg-like cube back on the shelf and high tail it out of there.

I've never seen any BSG in HD as I'm in Canada so our Space channel is low-def only. I have heard the PQ (artistic & stylistic choices aside) on HD-DVD for Season 1 was not the best (compression issues I think?) but I am unsure as I haven't seen it. Has anyone taken a peek at any of Season 1 (or the mini series) on Blu yet? Any first impressions?

Ups just dropped off my cube of doom. Hope to have time to watch an episode or two today =)

I picked this up over lunch today, popped in the first disc and watched the first few minutes. Looks good. Audio was DTS-HD Master. The only downside was the packaging, wtf were they thinking. I think Im going to try and find some 4 disc cases and transfer them all over. surely someone has already designed custom covers for such a thing as well ? :)

ups just dropped off my cube of doom. Hope to have time to watch an episode or two today =)

omg :D

It just shipped from Amazon this afternoon, and seems like it should be to me on Thursday. Gonna probably watch a couple of episodes this weekend... Can't wait to watch this series.

Opinions are subjective. One man's Holy Grail is not even worth another man's time.

Personally, I think the first season of LOST is the best season of any show in the history of television.

I also think Galactica is one of the best, most consistently good shows in the history of television and the best sci-fi series ever.

Opinions are subjective. One man's Holy Grail is not even worth another man's time.

Personally, I think the first season of LOST is the best season of any show in the history of television.

I also think Galactica is one of the best, most consistently good shows in the history of television and the best sci-fi series ever.

Well, Battlestar Galactica had Enterprise, and the Stargate SG-1 series to compete with, so it should be interesting to see if this show can top those two.

Well, Battlestar Galactica had Enterprise, and the Stargate SG-1 series to compete with, so it should be interesting to see if this show can top those two.

And Babylon 5... don't forget Babylon 5!

And Babylon 5... don't forget Babylon 5!
Except Babylon 5 was only consistently good during seasons two through four. Season one was boring and season five was a disaster - largely due to network interference and cramming a large part of the fifth year story arc into season four because of cancellation fears. Ivanova leaving the cast didn't help much either.

Still, seasons two, three and four are some of the best TV I've ever seen.

And Babylon 5... don't forget Babylon 5!

I didn't ;)

For me, B5 was the # 1 best until BSG came along. I include all the Star Treks. I loved its multi-year story ark. I agree that seasons 2 - 4 were the best. Although on multiple viewings, I found season 1 grew on me. Even with season 5's shortcomings, Londo's tragic fate & the ending were tops. I'm male, in my late 50's and the ending chokes me up every time :o

Still, seasons two, three and four are some of the best TV I've ever seen.

yup

Please start another thread if you want to debate Battlestar vs. Lost vs. Babylon 5 and don't pull this thread off-topic.

For those who are interested, I've attached a photo of the case for the Season 4.5. It's odd because to get to the second disc, you have to remove the third disc which is seated on top of it. Not exactly ideal. On the positive, the discs are very secure and will not easily pop lose like the Lost Blu-ray cases.

Personally, I think the idea of not buying the best television series ever produced because it sticks out 2 inches further than the rest of your collection is off-the-wall crazy insane. :)
Well, you have to remember that many of us have sat through the months and months of waiting between seasons/half-seasons, so waiting a few months for the individual seasons isn't a huge deal. :p I've gotten used to these hiatuses (Wow that looks weird...never had to pluralize "hiatus" before).

I give the edge to "Lost" overall. The 4th season of BSG pales in comparison to the first 3 IMO, although I did like the way they wrapped up the series.

I actually liked the 4th season the most. O_o Different strokes eh? I just loved the complete darkness and despair. Plus it felt like there was no filler, and they focused solely on moving the plot and characters to their conclusions.

Lost is one of my favorite series as well, but I absolutely hated the second season and the first half of the third. It was just some of the worst tv I'd seen, plus the characters we were introduced to ended up having little to no meaning in the grand scheme of things (so far anyway). I thought the 1st and 4th seasons were brilliant though, and season 5 was pretty good as well.

But no matter how they end it, I think BSG will remain the best series of all time for me...for a while anyway.

Please start another thread if you want to debate Battlestar vs. Lost vs. Babylon 5 and don't pull this thread off-topic.

For those who are interested, I've attached a photo of the case for the Season 4.5. It's odd because to get to the second disc, you have to remove the third disc which is seated on top of it. Not exactly ideal. On the positive, the discs are very secure and will not easily pop lose like the Lost Blu-ray cases.

Wait...is 4.5 missing the episode guides too?

For those who are interested, I've attached a photo of the case for the Season 4.5. It's odd because to get to the second disc, you have to remove the third disc which is seated on top of it. Not exactly ideal. On the positive, the discs are very secure and will not easily pop lose like the Lost Blu-ray cases.
Thanks. That's not much of an improvement. It's like a steelbook case, without the only thing that makes it worth having - the tin. Why must it be so difficult to package BSG?

Wait...is 4.5 missing the episode guides too?

Yes, no episode guide in Season 4.5, just an insert that tells you how to use interactive features.

Thanks. That's not much of an improvement. It's like a steelbook case, without the only thing that makes it worth having - the tin. Why must it be so difficult to package BSG?

It's not great but I still prefer it to the complete set cardboard sleeves. At least with the Season 4.5 case, you can see the discs and they're easy to remove and they don't touch the case when seated. What's also baffling is why the DVD case is so much superior. It has those individual thin cases for each disc. You would have thought some of that Blu-ray price premium could have been spent on the packaging but I guess the GE bean counters want every cent to go to the bottom line.

ugh, so disappointing. 4.5 has slightly better packaging, but they still biffed it by not using those thin cases (or a larger case with flippable slots ala Planet Earth). Frustrating.

ugh, so disappointing. 4.5 has slightly better packaging, but they still biffed it by not using those thin cases (or a larger case with flippable slots ala Planet Earth). Frustrating.
Figures at this point, doesn't it?

Yes, no episode guide in Season 4.5, just an insert that tells you how to use interactive features.

Ugh. Gods damn it NBCU...why can't you just stick to what works for everyone else? Please tell me the DVD version doesn't have episode guides as well, because if it does, that makes this Blu release even dumber.

I can't wait for 4.5 to arrive so I can watch the extended episodes, but now I'm actually hoping they put out a proper "complete" series with everything that's missing.

It's not great but I still prefer it to the complete set cardboard sleeves. At least with the Season 4.5 case, you can see the discs and they're easy to remove and they don't touch the case when seated. What's also baffling is why the DVD case is so much superior. It has those individual thin cases for each disc. You would have thought some of that Blu-ray price premium could have been spent on the packaging but I guess the GE bean counters want every cent to go to the bottom line.

First, no problem keeping discussion on topic. We can get carried away....:)

Second, I'm with you....the 4.5 case looks pretty decent & more importantly is practical. Less hard on the discs rubbing against cardboard sleeves. Your comments about "why" the inferior packaging is exactly reason for my tirade ;) It's just not right and doesn't make sense except for cost cutting.

I'd much prefer the case you have bundled in a nice box with the actors prominately displayed like the DVD sets. I mean these cases only cost $0.50 or so in bulk. Leave out the figure and they would have paid for multi-disc cases :(

Thanks for your comments & pic

ss9001

This is going to be tough.

I had several false starts today...heading to Best Buy...then talking myself out of it....then....

I shouldn't have read that the audio is DTS-MA!

This is going to be tough.

I had several false starts today...heading to Best Buy...then talking myself out of it....then....

I shouldn't have read that the audio is DTS-MA!

The audio is insane too. It really blows away the HD DVD, although I only had the xbox addon for it. The video is also somewhat cleaner in season 1. Season 3/4 look very VERY good. A noticable upgrade from season 1/2.

All I can say is wow I'm so happy now.

Frak!!!...I cracked and gave in.:o

It's $150 @DD with the coupon. $8 less with the cashback I used. I couldn't resist the sub $150 price for the set. Damn you stupid packaging. If it doesn't ship in 2 weeks I'll cancel, or if this one arrives and I don't like it I'll sell it.

OK so where do I get replacement cases and artwork now, and EP guides?

Just watched the mini-series, looks (for the most part) and sounds great! (oppo player on 60" kuro elite)

But damn, I'm a Cylon.

The audio is insane too. It really blows away the HD DVD, although I only had the xbox addon for it. The video is also somewhat cleaner in season 1.

Let's start those DNR debates! :D

I ordered the BLu-ray for $175 from deepdiscount/buy.com, and the box comes today on the release day. Of course they send me the DVD version. I'm sure some of you guys have had this happen with DD, how was your experience in getting it rectified?

Thanks. That's not much of an improvement. It's like a steelbook case, without the only thing that makes it worth having - the tin. Why must it be so difficult to package BSG?
If 4.5 and the Heroes releases are anything to go by, it looks like Universal is going to stick to digipak packaging for their television shows. Also, I'm going to guess that when individual seasons are released, there will be no complete fourth season - heck, you can probably infer this just from the discs in the complete series set. Seasons one, two and three should be available as complete seasons, with the fourth season split in two (and with Razor as the first disc of season 4.0).

I'm almost tempted by the $150 price at Deep Discount right now but as I'm already doubling stacking on my shelves, I just have no place for it.

Too bad decent shelving would run me $500-750 right now with how many titles I own (829, combining DVD and Blu-ray). Why is shelving so damned expensive?

Also, I'm going to guess that when individual seasons are released, there will be no complete fourth season - heck, you can probably infer this just from the discs in the complete series set. Seasons one, two and three should be available as complete seasons, with the fourth season split in two (and with Razor as the first disc of season 4.0).

I agree and also, the Blu-ray seasons will track their DVD siblings so as you said, full seasons of 1 - 3, split of 4.

Why is shelving so damned expensive?

Shelving can be cheap and utilitarian, e.g. Ikea or Staples shelves made out of corkboard. I suspect shelving that matches your expectations and aesthetic standard is expensive.:)

Frak!!!...I cracked and gave in.:o

It's $150 @DD with the coupon. $8 less with the cashback I used. I couldn't resist the sub $150 price for the set. Damn you stupid packaging. If it doesn't ship in 2 weeks I'll cancel, or if this one arrives and I don't like it I'll sell it.

OK so where do I get replacement cases and artwork now, and EP guides?

Can you post the coupon so we all can get in on this deal.

I ordered the BLu-ray for $175 from deepdiscount/buy.com, and the box comes today on the release day. Of course they send me the DVD version. I'm sure some of you guys have had this happen with DD, how was your experience in getting it rectified?

Isn't Deep Discount affiliated somehow with DVD Planet? At least I thought they were yrs ago.

If so, the mix up in the order is very consistent with my experiences with DVD Planet (internet sales run by Digital Eyes). The absolute poorest internet order fulfillment co. I have ever experienced. The bad news is they screwed up about 50% of the orders I placed over several yrs. The good news is they accepted returns & issued credits when I called about the mistakes. It got so bad, they kept issuing 100's of points to my acct. as conciliation that I could "cash" in on future orders. After they sent the wrong items twice on the same order, I gave up on them as a vendor. And anymore, other than these deals, Deep Discount's pricing is not all that discounted ;)

DVD Empire is a different story - great vendor as reliable as Amazon.

Sometimes getting the cheapest price is not worth the hassle of dealing with the vendor. I came to that conclusion on both DVD Planet & Deep Discount after dealing with both many times. Amazon is practically bullet-proof on service & when there's a problem, they handle it immediately. DVDP/DD took weeks & didn't issue credits until the next 30 day cycle. On one occasion they denied receiving the return until I told them I had proof of delivery with a signature :eek:

In any event, I advise calling them, speak with a live person to report the error & not rely on email. Keep a paper trail.

Good luck :)
ss9001

Can you post the coupon so we all can get in on this deal.

HOTSTUFF
HIDEFDIGEST25
SUPERSALE

They're all the same, 25% off, good till August 2 on deepdiscount.com. Also, if you go to the site by searching for the item on bing.com - Microsoft rebranded search site - then you get an additional 4% cashback from Microsoft, although I'm not sure it will work. Bing.com says that most sites usually don't allow the bing cashback to be combined with another coupon so the 4% cashback may be not ultimately work but it can't hurt to try. The complete set is currently sold out on deepdiscount. I've never ordered from there so I"m not sure how fast they replenish out of stock items.

By the way, the middle code is affiliated with the highdefdigest.com site so presumably, it gets a fee from each sale that uses that code. I'm not aware of the other codes being connected to sites but I could be wrong. Obviously, up to you which you choose to use.

Shelving can be cheap and utilitarian, e.g. Ikea or Staples shelves made out of corkboard. I suspect shelving that matches your expectations and aesthetic standard is expensive.:)
Not for the amount of shelving that I actually need. And I've never seen anything cheap about Ikea shelves unless what they have in their stores is significantly cheaper than what's on their website. Same with Staples -I'm not seeing anything cheap on their website.

But this isn't the appropriate thread (or forum) for this conversation. If you've got anything to prove me wrong, please PM me. I've been looking for cheap shelving for a very long time now.

Shelving can be cheap and utilitarian, e.g. Ikea or Staples shelves made out of corkboard. I suspect shelving that matches your expectations and aesthetic standard is expensive.:)

Shelving can get very expensive. I went the more cheap/utilitarian route and bought a whole bunch of Ikea Flarke series DVD bookcases. Each one has 5 shelves the perfect height and depth for DVDs, and can hold exactly 20 DVDs per shelf (approx 25 BDs), and was only $20 per bookcase. Obviously the price of the media of 100 DVDs or 125 BDs is much more than the price of that bookcase. The problem is when I get all of these non-standard height packages, I have to put them on top of the shelves, and there is only so much room there.

I guess the other thing you could do to save $ on shelving is to buy fewer and rent more through Netflix or Blockbuster. I find myself renting more movies than I buy, but buying most of the season sets. For things like BSG, I always want to have the next disc of episodes on hand so I'm not waiting on availability or the USPS to see what happens next.

The audio is insane too. It really blows away the HD DVD, although I only had the xbox addon for it. The video is also somewhat cleaner in season 1. Season 3/4 look very VERY good. A noticable upgrade from season 1/2.

All I can say is wow I'm so happy now.

HD DVD had TrueHD audio... The only explanation for the blu-ray sounding better is that you were listening to the audio as Dolby Digital through your 360... (or a different mix which I doubt was used).

Even so, glad to hear some good feedback. I wonder if the interlacing issues have been resolved.

The Best $209 Dollars plus tax I've Spent.
I liked the old 1970s show and was skeptical when it was re-imagined. The new BSG is way better than the original show. Let me count the ways. First its in HD, was shot in HD and has killer 5.1 surround sound. Honestly I can't say what is better the superb storylines, outstanding character development, beyond intense action, amazing special effects, stylized images, dynamic sonics or its very deep mythology and spiritual themes.

The movie is beyond 5 stars, has excellent writing with believable and living characters. BSG really hooks you in emotionally by dealing with moral issues, responsibilities and exploring what it is to be human. I won't spoil any plot details, but definetly recommend, even to non sci-fi fans.

The video is crystal clear and bold. Some may complain about the inserted grain to get a "film" look, yet I believe its a great artistic choice. The special effects look very convincing, with the exception of a few shots in season 1. The show has extreme contrast and a natural color timing.

The Audio is done right with lots of Sub-Woofer effects, effective use of surrounds and clear center dialouge. The musical score is also very dramatic, intense and diverse.

The Extras are extensive. To be honest I'm not that into extras, but this covers the BSG production and universe well.

Overall, I highly recommend the Complete Battlestar Galactica as it works on many levels. It is expensive, but if bought on sale averages around $2.75 per hour of the show. For anyone who has never seen BSG ( and most who have) or never bought the DVDs you will definitely get your money's worth.

You guys better not make me buy this.

Brandon

How can I pass up the (nearly) definitive blu-ray edition of my favorite TV show of all time for $143?

I've spent the last few days listening to BSG music getting ready for this set to arrive. And I was so smug, having pre-ordered from Amazon @ $249 and watching it drop to $209. But when it's supposed to arrive today I hear about this Deep Discount coupon and stuff and I see sub-150 prices. $60 is a lot of money. It's funny - $209 was *fine* when I thought it was the best price out there. Now that I now it's not I'm unhappy. Oh well, I couldn't resist opening it anyway.

One thing I wanna go back and check. I watched a Season 1 episode that I love: The Hand of God. That seemed to have a LOT less grain than Razor, which I'm watching now. But I don't get the grain. It's not always there. It only seems to be there either in very bright or very dark scenes. I'm not one to tell RDM what his artistic vision should be, but I wish they had left it out.

But I don't get the grain. It's not always there. It only seems to be there either in very bright or very dark scenes. I'm not one to tell RDM what his artistic vision should be, but I wish they had left it out.
Some of it is natural probably, I don't think most series use uniform cameras...especially in the beginning.

Without the grain it wouldn't be the same show, the entire production design creates a very suffocating, perilous tone to the story, a clean image would betray all of that work to a degree.

BTW - Are there any people that are good with graphic design that can take a shot at creating episode guides? Or are there any custom ones already available anywhere? Tri-folds would probably work best. I can't believe episode guides are suddenly dying out now.

BTW - Are there any people that are good with graphic design that can take a shot at creating episode guides? Or are there any custom ones already available anywhere? Tri-folds would probably work best. I can't believe episode guides are suddenly dying out now.

I would also like a good set of covers. As visually impressive as the box is, I don't think I can afford to give up that much shelf space. I saw a good set on another forum, but unfortunately the creator didn't finish and doesn't seem to post there anymore. I don't really want to leave them in the stock packaging, and was thinking of 4 6-disc cases.

I would also like a good set of covers. As visually impressive as the box is, I don't think I can afford to give up that much shelf space. I saw a good set on another forum, but unfortunately the creator didn't finish and doesn't seem to post there anymore. I don't really want to leave them in the stock packaging, and was thinking of 4 6-disc cases.

Thankfully I have the room to keep the box but I don't really like the whole discs in a carboard sleeve idea. I was looking at getting 20 of the BD Slimpacks (like this (http://www.checkoutstore.com/PREMIUM...-p/brcases.htm)) and print off some custom cover art with episode guides...but well I suck at that lol So if anyone does decide to make some coverart that would be awesome!

Thankfully I have the room to keep the box but I don't really like the whole discs in a carboard sleeve idea. I was looking at getting 20 of the BD Slimpacks (like this (http://www.checkoutstore.com/PREMIUM...-p/brcases.htm)) and print off some custom cover art with episode guides...but well I suck at that lol So if anyone does decide to make some coverart that would be awesome!

It would seem there are 6-disc cases available, but only in Australia for some reason...

I found 3 disc cases made by Amaray. Found several online vendors, one has an ebay store:

http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=1169798890&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://stores.shop.ebay.com/KJRMEDIASUPPLIERS__W0QQ_armrsZ1 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fstores.shop.ebay.com%2FKJRMEDIASUPPLIERS__ W0QQ_armrsZ1)

They also make a 4 disc'er, but I couldn't find a vendor that had it. More searching is needed.

I like the slim case idea. Have to see how much room is in the set box or if they'll fit in the DVD season boxes.

It's a shame we even are looking at these options :rolleyes: We shouldn't have to do that.

Called DeepDiscount and cancelled my backorder at yesterday's price and created a new order with today's price. With bing's 4% off, it comes to $145.22 shipped. Does put me at the back of the backorder line, but I'm in no rush. They said they could put a note in the current order to apply the discount after the order ships, but I don't want to bother checking to make sure they do.

BSG is a blind buy for me, and being a sci-fi fan, looks like I'm in for a treat. At $145.22, it's an easier pill to swallow :).

Anyone have a link to where some 6 disc cases can be ordered? Even if no one makes artwork I'd rather use more stable cases. But hopefully someone good at that is up to the task.

I've spent the last few days listening to BSG music getting ready for this set to arrive. And I was so smug, having pre-ordered from Amazon @ $249 and watching it drop to $209. But when it's supposed to arrive today I hear about this Deep Discount coupon and stuff and I see sub-150 prices. $60 is a lot of money. It's funny - $209 was *fine* when I thought it was the best price out there. Now that I now it's not I'm unhappy. Oh well, I couldn't resist opening it anyway.


I'm usually the same, but I didn't even bother with DDD on this one. BSG is too important and that set just screams "damage" potential to me. I'd rather not risk waiting on DDD and possibly having an issue. Although, I can't recall ever having anything arrive in bad shape from DDD.... not that I use them often.

It makes me feel better if I imagine I ordered it from DDD in an alternate timeline, it came damaged, and I had to wait forever to get the replacement... and then IT came damaged to! Man, glad I spent the extra $60 at Amazon! :)

I've been holding back on getting this as I doubt I'll have time to devote to watch it for a few months so it will probably just sit on my shelf for a while. But at $151(not messing with the Bing stuff) I'm guessing this is lowest price we'll see on this set for a long while and couldn't pass it up.

Oh man, so tempting. I put in an order for Season 4.5 yesterday morning (at a whopping $32), but now that they've dropped the price on the full set, I may just order that. I told myself $150 was the magic number, and it's already at that price. Decisions, decisions...What are the chances it'll be the same price (or cheaper) for the November/December sale?

The box set is a limited edition thing... eventually, the single season releases will come out and they'll be all that's available. I wouldn't be surprised if you can't get this when the next sale comes around.

I have some spare 7-disc Elite Blu-ray cases I'm going to be transferring the discs into. Now to find some good artwork for them...

The box set is a limited edition thing... eventually, the single season releases will come out and they'll be all that's available. I wouldn't be surprised if you can't get this when the next sale comes around.

I couldn't disagree more. Since this doesn't appear to have anything that would be an exclusive (other thna the stupid action figure), I think they'll have a huge surplus on their hands when all the individual releases are available. People will be able to pick those up one at a time, in many cases far cheaper than they wll ever get this set until it goes on a clear out sale to finally dump the surplus.

The question is (at least for me) do I wait until this massive clear out sale happens on the complete set, and then do my own packaging, or do I pick up the seasons over time when I see them cheap. Will likely depend on what the single packaging looks like over time.

I asked you guys nicely to not make me get this. Please don't make me ask again. I've never seen an episode so I don't know what I'm missing out on, which quells most of the temptation at the moment. But damn it if I don't have the willpower to pass up a good deal when I spot one.

Brandon

Brandon, if you haven't seen it and are a fan of scifi, you're missing out.

:D

I couldn't disagree more. Since this doesn't appear to have anything that would be an exclusive (other thna the stupid action figure), I think they'll have a huge surplus on their hands when all the individual releases are available. People will be able to pick those up one at a time, in many cases far cheaper than they wll ever get this set until it goes on a clear out sale to finally dump the surplus.

The question is (at least for me) do I wait until this massive clear out sale happens on the complete set, and then do my own packaging, or do I pick up the seasons over time when I see them cheap. Will likely depend on what the single packaging looks like over time.
I'm not exactly sure how cheap you expect the individual Blu-ray sets to get. I picked up all the sets of the DVDs at the cheapest prices I could find them for ($30 each for the full seasons of 1 and 3; $20 each for the half seasons of 2.0, 2.5, and 4.0), and that still puts me at $120 for an incomplete set. And that's for the "cheap" DVDs. BSG is one of those shows that still has a fairly high price after all these years simply due to the fact that people will pay it.

I'm not exactly sure how cheap you expect the individual Blu-ray sets to get. I picked up all the sets of the DVDs at the cheapest prices I could find them for ($30 each for the full seasons of 1 and 3; $20 each for the half seasons of 2.0, 2.5, and 4.0), and that still puts me at $120 for an incomplete set. And that's for the "cheap" DVDs. BSG is one of those shows that still has a fairly high price after all these years simply due to the fact that people will pay it.

Well for starters the BSG DVD sets have been far cheaper. Even the "full" seasons could be had for $19.99 and I've seen bundles of the halves together for $30.

Stores have prices for individual season sets all the time. Not sure if it's extra stock or what, but I've seen comments from people who have been able to build complete sets over time for cheaper than the official compelte sets. As I posted before, the only downside IMO is if there are exclusives to the complete set or you like the packaging.

I have went for complete sets when there have been exclusives worth having. I have also made some purchases in the past that I regret. Learned from those past mistakes.

I'm usually the same, but I didn't even bother with DDD on this one. BSG is too important and that set just screams "damage" potential to me. I'd rather not risk waiting on DDD and possibly having an issue. Although, I can't recall ever having anything arrive in bad shape from DDD.... not that I use them often.

It makes me feel better if I imagine I ordered it from DDD in an alternate timeline, it came damaged, and I had to wait forever to get the replacement... and then IT came damaged to! Man, glad I spent the extra $60 at Amazon! :)


DD.com is really that bad?

:confused:

Do you think their faster shipping options would be packaged/handled better?

They use USPS for free shipping. What kind of condition has the stuff you've bought from them arrived in?

DD.com is really that bad?

:confused:

Do you think their faster shipping options would be packaged/handled better?

They use USPS for free shipping. What kind of condition has the stuff you've bought from them arrived in?

In my experience one of the reasons items come in such bad condition from DD is that they start that way. I've had things come extremely damaged that were clearly not damaged in transit. I suspect much of their stock is in real bad shape before they even put them in the boxes to mail.

Sorry you feel that way, I've been buying around $800-$1200 (after coupon) of things from them for the past 5-6 years annually + random stuff throughout random sales during the years.....and I have only had problem with 1 boxset that came with floaters. It was an anime set and I remember they replaced with a simple phone call that took 5 minutes. Nothing I ordered had defects or pre-shipping damage like you claimed. I also order from Amazon regularly (10's of thousands of dollars per year with random things) and I don't see much of a difference between the 2 on quality of items other than the fact Amazon gets to me ridiculously quick with free shipping and DD takes 5-7 business days. My order has been confirmed as shipped and I called it this morning to get the price adjustment to $151. Look forward to finishing the series in style with these. Just wanted to give them props but you're not the only one that's complained about them....everyone's bound to have some problems with a vendor once in awhile and I wouldn't let a couple experiences turn you off to a vendor that's willing to help out. Amazon is also extremely helpful with customer service that gets things done quick on the cs side (had a lot of transit damages from them throughout years).

I asked you guys nicely to not make me get this. Please don't make me ask again. I've never seen an episode so I don't know what I'm missing out on, which quells most of the temptation at the moment. But damn it if I don't have the willpower to pass up a good deal when I spot one.

Brandon

Brandon, buy it! I give you my personal guarantee that it is worth every penny and you will enjoy it. =)

Just called DD this morning to get the $13+ price difference. Interesting talking to the lady - they have over 2000 on back order. They expect a shipment of about 1360 in the next shipment (no date set). I didn't want to lose my place in line so opted for the refund once it ships. :D

Some of it is natural probably, I don't think most series use uniform cameras...especially in the beginning.
BSG sure did. They used Sony HDW-F900 cameras modified to use Panavision lenses through the whole series. Since the F900 can't shoot high speed, they did shoot a handful of slow motion scenes on film in the first season. Later on in the series they rented Phantoms to shoot the slow motion scenes.

Without the grain it wouldn't be the same show, the entire production design creates a very suffocating, perilous tone to the story, a clean image would betray all of that work to a degree.
According to an article in American Cinematographer, the first problem they had when they started shooting crystal clear HD video (after shooting on film for the mini-series) is that everything on the set looked too clean. They literally had to wear the sets down and scuff them up to make them look old and used. It took them some experimentation to get a reasonable amount of grain/noise out of the F900 to match the grainy look of the mini-series.

I've never had any problems with damaged items from DDD in over 5 years of use. Only issue I ever had was my Matrix trilogy box-set (HD-DVD) was lost in the mail, and I just called them up, and they sent me another one (at no charge) which arrived without a hitch.

Just called DD this morning to get the $13+ price difference. Interesting talking to the lady - they have over 2000 on back order. They expect a shipment of about 1360 in the next shipment (no date set). I didn't want to lose my place in line so opted for the refund once it ships. :D

Me too -- and mine just shipped :) Going to call in about an hour or so to see if they can give me the credit now that I got the confirmation email. BSG and Dollhouse both went down in price :) Best sale ever..... until November when they have another 25 percent sale :)

DD.com is really that bad?

:confused:

Do you think their faster shipping options would be packaged/handled better?

They use USPS for free shipping. What kind of condition has the stuff you've bought from them arrived in?

Sorry - I was mainly referring to the potential for damage due to the weight/shape of the box and having to deal with their return process if something did arrive damaged. Personally, stuff I've received from DDD is almost always in good shape (not that I order much from them). The only problem with DDD is the return process if it's not and that's mainly what I was thinking of when I posted earlier. If you get a damaged item from Amazon, they'll next day air a replacement and you just send the original back within 30 days at their expense. It seems like DDD's policy is the "wait-for-return-THEN-we'll-reship-when-in-stock", isn't it?

Ahh, gotcha.

Everyone who orders from DD.com, just make sure they send you the Blu-ray version. They shipped me the DVD boxset instead. :mad:

Curse you, lack of willpower!

Caved and submitted my backorder last night for the set at DD, along with ~$32 of incidentals. $143.20 on this set was just too good to pass up. Checked bing.com this morning to see $9.44 pending back to me!

Without the grain it wouldn't be the same show, the entire production design creates a very suffocating, perilous tone to the story, a clean image would betray all of that work to a degree.

Well, I'm the type of guy who likes a nice crisp image on his fancy LCD TV. I guess I don't know enough about video to be able to tell intentional noise from unintentional noise. So I sit there wondering if it was a sloppy transfer or on purpose.

The only thing stoping me from ordering the set, is my paranoia that is wont work on my European Playstation 3 Region B player.

Does anyone here own a B player and has tested the set?

http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=71060181


Wait, it's $225 at DDD..? So 25% off would be more than $150, no? What am I missing?

Apparently the price has gone up...it was $201 five hours ago when I called them to make the price adjustment ($219 to $201).

http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=71060181


Wait, it's $225 at DDD..? So 25% off would be more than $150, no? What am I missing?

You're not missing anything. The price went up about $25 today.

thanks mac. dang

The only thing stoping me from ordering the set, is my paranoia that is wont work on my European Playstation 3 Region B player.

Does anyone here own a B player and has tested the set?

I checked and my US BSG set plays on my French (region B) PS3.

Brandon, buy it! I give you my personal guarantee that it is worth every penny and you will enjoy it. =)

I agree. buy it Brandon. $150? what, that's like the equivalent of only 18.75 jetpax?

I asked you guys nicely to not make me get this. Please don't make me ask again. I've never seen an episode so I don't know what I'm missing out on, which quells most of the temptation at the moment. But damn it if I don't have the willpower to pass up a good deal when I spot one.

Brandon
Brandon, if you haven't seen it and are a fan of scifi, you're missing out.
Hell, if you're a fan of quality television, you'll enjoy it (I'm not a huge Scifi fan myself). I have to say, while I'm willing to wait for the individual seasons, I can only wait because I've seen the series a couple times all the way through. If you've never seen the show, you owe it to yourself to own one of the most critically acclaimed shows of all time...regardless of the price.

Well, I'm the type of guy who likes a nice crisp image on his fancy LCD TV. I guess I don't know enough about video to be able to tell intentional noise from unintentional noise. So I sit there wondering if it was a sloppy transfer or on purpose.

The grain is there throughout and some people don't like it for the very reason you mentioned (wanting a clean picture). I love it myself. They remove it for certain scenes, and to me, it's just another layer to the show.

Yeah... I've been a fan of almost all sci-fi shows based in deep space. The Star Trek Series, Stargate SG-1, BSG, as some examples. Star Wars I probably could live without, that one just didn't seem to catch my attention as much. However, I do agree, it was a tough call for me as far as whether BSG was better, watching more Trek, or Stargate franchise shows, or anything else like that.

Now that I see it, there may be some rumours for Stargate series to be out on Blu-ray as well, but uncertain if it'll be anywhere in the near future, tho. To me, Stargate definitely was one of the few series giving BSG a run for its money, and made me confused as far as which series would be the better one to follow. The way I see it, being from a Star Trek background, BSG would almost be like Voyager, whereas SG-1 would probably be like DS9, if I got that analogy right.

Crap! I was just about to phone them to cancel my S4.5 order and add the complete series.

Some good news

For those wanting to (ahem) tweak the packaging, I just found this on Digital Bits tonight -

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Bill Hunt has created his own custom episode guides per disc, covers, etc. and made them available for everyone to download off his site. Here's his direct link to his zip file which has the word doc's -

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/files/bsgdiscinserts.zip

Very nice workmanship & nice of him to offer them for public use.

ss9001

I checked and my US BSG set plays on my French (region B) PS3.

Thanks, all I needed to know :)

Well, I was about to do it today and got as far as Best Buy....only to find that none of the Jacksonville stores had it in stock due to a shipping error.

Wonder if it's a sign? :D

You made me curious. It's back-ordered online and only 2 stores around me have it in stock. O_O

Though I did find that Wal-Mart has it for $199.

And something else...Fry's doesn't have it at all. I just find that really weird.

I had one set in my hand today but was able to hold myself back and put it back on the shelf.

Must hold out for a lower price in Canada than what Future Shop (or even Walmart) is selling it for.

Everyone who orders from DD.com, just make sure they send you the Blu-ray version. They shipped me the DVD boxset instead. :mad:

Yep! Mine arrived today and is the DVD version when I had ordered the Blu-Ray version.

My box set arrived today from Amazon. The packaging is a lot of waste, but oh well.. the video quality makes up for it.

But... isn't there any kind of booklet or sheet with a list of the episodes? There is none with my set, unless it's so well hidden I haven't unearthed it yet... I removed the 4 season boxes, and the cylon figure. Does the entire top come off? I haven't wanted to break it, not sure why. :D

So, any ideas of where to get multi-disc Blu-ray cases that aren't just three disc packs if I decide to go with this cardboard monstrosity?

But... isn't there any kind of booklet or sheet with a list of the episodes?

Nope. Read the reviews. No episode guide is included.

Yep! Mine arrived today and is the DVD version when I had ordered the Blu-Ray version.

2 for 2 posters now. Sorry to hear that.

I warned about this in a post several pages back about my own experiences with Deep Discount & DVDPlanet....wrong items sent multiple times.

Let me share some info on these companies -

From Deep Discount's website:
"DeepDiscount.com is a division of Infinity Resources, Inc. Our mailing address is:
DeepDiscount.com
900 North Rohlwing Road
Itasca, IL 60143"

From DVD Planet's website:
"In September 2003, certain assets of DVDPlanet, Inc. were acquired by a subsidiary of Infinity Resources,Inc. Most merchandise is shipped from our proprietary distribution center located in the greater Chicago, IL area.

Infinity Resources, Inc. is a privately held company consisting of proprietary catalog and internet-based retailing and third-party catalog and e-commerce fulfillment operations. Our offices are located at 900 N. Rohlwing Road, Itasca, IL 60143."


Folks,
Both companies use Infinity Resources to do all order processing & shipping. These are the same people that f'd up many times on many of my orders over several yrs. Even shipped wrong items on replacement orders. It took many calls to cust. svc to get problems fixed. They sometimes played a few games like waiting a full 30 day billing cycle before crediting my card & saying they didn't get a return when I had proof of delivery. I ended up documenting every call I made to them with person's name, what they agreed to do to handle their mistakes, and what exact amounts they were going to credit. They are not a trustworthy company to deal with & they do not know how to consistently & accurately process orders.

Is this the kind of company service you want to support with your hard earned dollars?

Is $50 savings worth the hassle of getting the wrong item, the returns, credits, and re-shipping (now back-ordered)?

To each is own....but I will never buy from these idiots again. Amazon has NEVER screwed up any order & I buy thousands of dollars of movies each yr.

Caveat emptor. I've done my duty & provided my own experiences with Infinity as a warning. If some of you want to roll the dice with them to save a few bucks, good luck :)

ss9001

So, any ideas of where to get multi-disc Blu-ray cases that aren't just three disc packs if I decide to go with this cardboard monstrosity?

I've only found the 3 disc cases. But I know 4 and more are made by the same company, so somebody has to sell them...:)

I should be getting the BSG set from Amazon before this weekend :D

I've never ordered from DD.com and I never will, just not worth it.

I've never ordered from DD.com and I never will, just not worth it.

wise man :)

I thought it ironic, that after my 1st post about how they operated that immediately following were several people asking for the discount codes :rolleyes:

Hey, I tried.....:o

Some may have never had a problem with them, but all I can say is when they can't get it right nearly half the time for just one customer placing orders on their web site, something is wrong with the company's process.....

Its not their cust svc, which tried to be helpful, it's their warehousing & order processing which must be run by illiterates randomly grabbing dvd's off shelves. I just can't think of a rational explanation for all the mistakes they made on orders.

$50 savings? Drop in the bucket compared to my time & expense for re-packaging, standing in line at the local PO, paying for delivery confirmation, then finding out they shipped the wrong item yet again. This was not a single occurence...unfortunately it happened multiple times :(

Even tho their prices were cheaper, I finally gave up on them. I have probably $100 of un-used points in my online acct. but it's just not worth the aggravation!

For anyone trying to get this BSG deal-----I wish you the best of luck & hope you don't go thru what I did. If many of you get the DVD's instead of BD's, don't say you weren't warned.

'Nuff said by me on this topic. I'll shut up now...:)

ss9001

I've ordered from DD before, probably 5 or 6 times and never had an issue til now. The conversation that I will have with then in the morning, and how quickly this is resolved, will determine if they will ever see another $ of mine.

Um... yeah! Got my BSG set, opened it up, noticed light scratches on all the discs in Seasons 3 and 4. Not happy!

Are we certain these seasons are coming out individually?

Um... yeah! Got my BSG set, opened it up, noticed light scratches on all the discs in Seasons 3 and 4. Not happy!

Are we certain these seasons are coming out individually?

You can count on it! There's no way that they will be keeping this packaging for very long, when the disks can fit into regular blu case packaging for probably 1/5 the cost.

You can count on it! There's no way that they will be keeping this packaging for very long, when the disks can fit into regular blu case packaging for probably 1/5 the cost.God, I hope so. I just bought a BSG boomerang. Tomorrow, I'll grab S4.5 and be done with it until the individuals come out. What a frakkin' waste.

got my set today for $199 at frys today and the lay out sucks ass:mad: and best buy in Sacramento had ZERO WTF but a smaller city had 12 what the hell did not but it ass buy
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b221/shortyjmg/IMG_1179.jpg

The more I read and the more pix I see, the more content I am to just wait for the UK version...

http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx2/bsgcustom01.jpg
That is respect. Bill Hunt's custom Binder.
Now I just need to know where to get that binder and the stickers.
Here's the ling to the episode listings he made that ss9001 posted.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/files/bsgdiscinserts.zip