Rl3058
09-04-09, 07:18 PM
Great job on the collector book, vicmackey187. I live in a town where the only printing services now is staples and they have this copyright thing going on.
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View Full Version : Battlestar Galactica Complete Series Rl3058 09-04-09, 07:18 PM Great job on the collector book, vicmackey187. I live in a town where the only printing services now is staples and they have this copyright thing going on. faust1103 09-05-09, 05:20 PM @vicmackey187 Hi, I am going to print out the booklet next week. Any chance for an updated version with the typos corrected until then? Rl3058 09-05-09, 10:53 PM Faust1103, Any chance of you printing up 2 copies, I'll buy one off you Rl3058 09-05-09, 10:55 PM Vlad your the man I got the blu-ray cases today vicmackey187 09-06-09, 12:03 AM @vicmackey187 Hi, I am going to print out the booklet next week. Any chance for an updated version with the typos corrected until then? I'd hold off on that, Version 4.0 (which should be the final one) is on its way, hopefully within the next week or so... I'm waiting for a few final HD caps (pretty much all the screencaps have been upgraded) and some image correction from another user. All known typos are already corrected, BUT IF ANYONE SEES ANY TYPOS BE SURE TO LET ME KNOW ASAP :p) !!! I've gone in and corrected as many image problems as I could manage, as well as some minor layout ones. There's a new octagonal border around each page, and I inserted the colonial seal into each Disc Listing (a la the dvd sets). Also, if anyone has any suggestions for resizing the entire document for the box set (so that it can fit in one of those Season slots), I'm all ears... http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/vicmackey187/Screenshot2009-08-31at123535AM.png New version templates with Blu Ray caps (all hail stumlad!) Known typos that are fixed: • all episode 1 & 2s • "Faith" missing on main Disc page • Incorrect amount of new footage on "Daybreak" (11 not 30 mins) faust1103 09-06-09, 08:27 AM @VicMacKay OK, I will wait for the final version then. Really looking forward to it. What printout size what the booklet designed for anyway @Rl3058 I probably could print out several copies of the booklet. However I have to find an affordable printer first. Plus you should know that I am located in Europe. ss9001 09-06-09, 08:32 AM A booklet's coming? I didn't realize until now. Fantastic!!! :D Maybe I missed where to download it or get printed copy when finished. vic, what's the story again on it? :) Schancy 09-06-09, 09:49 PM I just want to say I've been following this thread for a while. Thank you very much for the hard work you're putting in VicMacKey187. I bought the Blu-Ray set (us version) and was slightly disappointed that it didn't have a booklet. Your effort thus far is awesome. I can't wait to add this to the set! Nathan Webel 09-07-09, 09:19 AM Also, if anyone has any suggestions for resizing the entire document for the box set (so that it can fit in one of those Season slots), I'm all ears... I took measurements of a standard BR case inside, as well as an insert for another movie. Cases appear to accomodate an insert 15cm high by 12cm wide (folded), which is 24cm unfolded. So, vic, if you can make your booklet print out at those dimensions, it will fit in the BR cases many folks have. mnilan 09-07-09, 09:42 AM Folks: I'm sure you've covered this earlier in this thread but my search strategy didn't uncover it... There are a few discs available like the miniseries, "The Plan," and "Caprica." Are these also in the "Complete" series? I'm asking because I have been deliberately avoiding BSG over the past few years just so I could watch the whole saga on blu-ray. So I'm trying to find out if I actually have the whole saga or if I have to wait for a few more discs to get the "complete" saga... Please advise. Thanks in advance. Tspeer 09-07-09, 10:16 AM fwiw I use a Panasonic bd35, at firmware 2.0, with an Onkyo 875 and the dts master plays fine. Are you bitstreaming? What firmware revision is running on your 875? 875 is at 1.08 along with newest DSP (see my sig for 805 and 875 Main firmware, DSP firmware, and HDMI 1.02 as well as directions on how to check your versions) My Panasonic bd player is set to bitsream both Dolby and DTS, BD secondary audio is off. So far I have watched every episode (extended versions only when available) from season 1 up to Razor, no audio problems. Patsfan123 09-07-09, 10:26 AM Folks: I'm sure you've covered this earlier in this thread but my search strategy didn't uncover it... There are a few discs available like the miniseries, "The Plan," and "Caprica." Are these also in the "Complete" series? I'm asking because I have been deliberately avoiding BSG over the past few years just so I could watch the whole saga on blu-ray. So I'm trying to find out if I actually have the whole saga or if I have to wait for a few more discs to get the "complete" saga... Please advise. Thanks in advance. The Plan isn't out yet, so it isn't included in the box. It comes out 10/27/09 so you will have to buy that separately. Caprica is a spinoff show of BSG and not part of the series so that is also not included. vläd 09-07-09, 10:27 AM Folks: There are a few discs available like the miniseries, "The Plan," and "Caprica." Are these also in the "Complete" series? No. Caprica isn't available on Blu as yet, (and is actually considered a different series). And The Plan doesn't get released until October 27th. Additionally, the 10 webisode The Face Of The Enemy isn't included either. shinksma 09-07-09, 11:02 AM Also, if anyone has any suggestions for resizing the entire document for the box set (so that it can fit in one of those Season slots), I'm all ears... I took measurements of a standard BR case inside, as well as an insert for another movie. Cases appear to accomodate an insert 15cm high by 12cm wide (folded), which is 24cm unfolded. So, vic, if you can make your booklet print out at those dimensions, it will fit in the BR cases many folks have. The season boxes in the box set are just over 4 3/4" (pretty close to 12.2cm) wide. I found that a size reduction to 95% was about the right size, using the 2-wide double-sided duplexing I described earlier, which defaults certain things about margin sizes, etc. if you reduce the size of the image per page but print out using "resize to fill the page" you don't really change anything. Using your current booklet design, the booklet is a little shorter than the season boxes. The boxes are 6 3/4" tall, whereas the reduced printout is about 6 1/4" tall. Not a big deal, so more of a preference for what ratio you prefer. Hope that helps, shinksma mnilan 09-07-09, 11:06 AM Patsfan123 and vläd: Appreciate it. Rl3058 09-07-09, 02:04 PM Darknight, The "J" in Jamie Bamber's name is missing on the "Razor" cover Rl3058 09-07-09, 07:11 PM Here are some suggestions for page 8 of the booklet Valeri is spelled Valerii Add Dualla's first name Anastasia Add Anders middle initial "T" Add Dr. Cottle's first name "Sherman" You gave Louanne "Kat" Katraine "Racetrack's" last name of "Edmondson" Add Leoben's last name "Conoy" Add Doral's first name "Aaron" Add D'Anna's last name "Biers" Add Cavil's first name "John" On page 11 you might want to add Ron French's middle initial of "E" since the episodes credit him that way vicmackey187 09-08-09, 01:35 AM Here are some suggestions for page 8 of the booklet Valeri is spelled Valerii Add Dualla's first name Anastasia Add Anders middle initial "T" Add Dr. Cottle's first name "Sherman" You gave Louanne "Kat" Katraine "Racetrack's" last name of "Edmondson" Add Leoben's last name "Conoy" Add Doral's first name "Aaron" Add D'Anna's last name "Biers" Add Cavil's first name "John" On page 11 you might want to add Ron French's middle initial of "E" since the episodes credit him that way Thanks for the suggestions, I'll be incorporating most of them. I'm leaving off John's name (and the rest of the Cylons to make them all match) and the reason why is because it's what I consider fairly significant spoiler material (most of "No Exit" is built around that name and how he got it). "Sherman" is also a nice reveal in "Daybreak" and therefore falls under the same conditions. It's a tough line to draw, how much to give away and how much not to (after all, check out my image selections for the first and last discs of 4.5 ), but in trying to make this book as "real" as possible, I try to take in consideration the amount of information normally imparted. For instance, all the episode descriptions are from the various dvd sets, and as the season went on, the descriptions got vaguer and vaguer. You suggested leaving off Cally's maiden name, but considering that name became a hyphenate at a certain point, I also wanted to leave that particular detail unrevealed as well. On a side note, I always hate how much stuff is sometimes given away on DVD menus/booklets. BSG and 24 (especially the 2nd season) are particularly guilty of this practice -- but then again I'm the type of person who likes to come into a show as cold as possible. Like I said, its a tough line, and if you can argue to contrary, I'm all ears. Anyway, that's my thought process on the matter, and thanks for pointing out the other errors I had! Rl3058 09-08-09, 09:46 AM Was just trying to help you make the best booklet possible. vicmackey187 09-08-09, 03:23 PM Was just trying to help you make the best booklet possible. Sorry, didn't mean to come off mean or anything. Your help is much appreciated. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/vicmackey187/Screenshot2009-09-08at30751PM.png A or B http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/vicmackey187/Screenshot2009-09-08at30725PM.png or C or D? (slightly rough copies, will be cleaned up for final) The Dark Shape 09-08-09, 03:47 PM I'm going to blind buy this next week. Quick question - how does the box stand up size-wise with other BDs? Is it the same height? petergaryr 09-08-09, 04:30 PM I'm going to blind buy this next week. Quick question - how does the box stand up size-wise with other BDs? Is it the same height? Anything but. I have mine sitting in a bookcase away from the other BDs. However, that said...I am up to Season Four and all this BD set has done for me is to remind me what a great series Battlestar Galactica is. PQ is fine, but what is really impressive is the DTS-MA soundtrack. It is giving my dual SVS subs a real workout. Ghostface1701 09-08-09, 07:05 PM A! A! :) vläd 09-08-09, 09:10 PM I like A as well, but I would like to see some leader dots between the rows like; 204971 ....... Edward James Olmos ............... William Adama Once you get down to the 5th row or so, your eyes may have a bit of trouble staying on the same line, the leader dots would help. Just my 2¢. Tspeer 09-08-09, 09:36 PM If "A" is using like thier military serial numbers, then sweet. :) Looks good. Is this a pair of pages being added to the booklet? Now that I have some experience printing it, I should be good to go once the next version is finished. Rl3058 09-09-09, 02:17 AM You still need to change "Kat"'s surname "D" stwrt 09-09-09, 03:23 AM C and D look too high tech, whereas that old wreck Battlestar is supposed to be old school, the crew list would be hand-typed :) What an excellent set of choices, though ! A vicmackey187 09-09-09, 04:27 AM Hmmm. All good points, the opinions here and at the BSG prop forum I belong to all prefer "a" and "d". I think I'm going to split the difference and publish an alternative page at the end, much like I did for the temp version, this way people can print the page they want. Tspeer, these are the candidates for the currently existing cast page. They are not meant to be additional pages, but as potential replacements. Also, those serial numbers are indeed accurate for those characters who have them. Rl3058, on the "A" page, I have reversed my decision about leaving out Cottle's first name, and will be including it, as well as all of the characters ranks, like it is on the prop (http://archive.battlestarprops.com/vimg/1002/3ecd5a235c9abf867fbc1cc23a8845ae) I based it on . "A" is my original concept (the legibility of smaller names is a major concern in the reduced size of a physical book), but "D" has a cleaner look and better balanced, style-wise, by the following page. goose61282 09-09-09, 12:43 PM Is it just me or has the community done more for this series than the publisher? The booklets are looking really nice. More importantly I need cases! If someone sees some for sale post here. Thanks HDMe2 09-09-09, 02:37 PM As I'm watching these, the first thing that has bugged me about not having the booklet is... Pegasus standard episode is the last on one disc... then Pegasus extended episode is the first on the next disc. If you didn't look to see, you could watch Pegasus standard and then wish you hadn't because now you have to watch it twice in a row to see the extended version. 2nd thing that bugs me is the layout of the extra content. In season 3, the "Resistance" webisodes are on disc 2 for some reason. If you watch these, you should really watch them prior to season 3 start... so I don't know why they didn't shuffle content around to put these as an extra on disc 1 instead. Matt_Stevens 09-09-09, 03:33 PM I'd hold off on that, Version 4.0 (which should be the final one) is on its way, hopefully within the next week or so... You, sir, are a credit to humanity. :) I haven't bought the set yet (because I just cannot swing it right now) but when I do, I will be happy to stick the original packaging in a closet. geekyglassesgirl 09-09-09, 04:26 PM You, sir, are a credit to humanity. +1 I also eagerly await the final version of the booklet. Thank you for all your hard work & thanks to all who helped to contribute to it as well! vicmackey187 09-09-09, 04:27 PM As I'm watching these, the first thing that has bugged me about not having the booklet is... Pegasus standard episode is the last on one disc... then Pegasus extended episode is the first on the next disc. If you didn't look to see, you could watch Pegasus standard and then wish you hadn't because now you have to watch it twice in a row to see the extended version. 2nd thing that bugs me is the layout of the extra content. In season 3, the "Resistance" webisodes are on disc 2 for some reason. If you watch these, you should really watch them prior to season 3 start... so I don't know why they didn't shuffle content around to put these as an extra on disc 1 instead. That's the way "The Resistance" was presented on the DVD set as well. Annoying, to be true -- had "Face Of The Enemy" been included it probably would have been on D2. In most of the cases, I personally didn't like the extended cuts (they had good material, but were not overall as tight as the broadcast versions). Skip and watch them once you're done with the entire season in question. faust1103 09-10-09, 11:53 AM @vicmackey187 Thanks for your hard work. Any idea when the final booklet will be ready for release? Paul Arnette 09-10-09, 12:23 PM @vicmackey187 Thanks for your hard work. Any idea when the final booklet will be ready for release? Also, will there be a version that'll fit in a keepcase? Thanks for all your hard work on this! Nathan Webel 09-10-09, 06:08 PM Also, will there be a version that'll fit in a keepcase? Thanks for all your hard work on this! +1! That is what I am waiting for as well. Thanks Vic, for the hard work! vicmackey187 09-10-09, 07:32 PM +1! That is what I am waiting for as well. Thanks Vic, for the hard work! Waiting for one more cap, and perhaps an image correction from other users on the forum. Looks like it got pushed back to next week. The other problem is that if people want it sized for the Amray Cases, I'll have to make and post two separate copies (I originally intended to make it for the Box Set size only), although from my end, sizing it for the smaller cases will give me a good template for my next project -- LOST S1 & S2 booklets. (Speaking of, anyone got an extra slipcover for S1?) Hopefully I'll get a chance to start the final layout this weekend. Vortex3D 09-10-09, 07:53 PM Waiting for one more cap, and perhaps an image correction from other users on the forum. Looks like it got pushed back to next week. The other problem is that if people want it sized for the Amray Cases, I'll have to make and post two separate copies (I originally intended to make it for the Box Set size only), although from my end, sizing it for the smaller cases will give me a good template for my next project -- LOST S1 & S2 booklets. (Speaking of, anyone got an extra slipcover for S1?) Hopefully I'll get a chance to start the final layout this weekend. Are you asking for Season 1 DVD box art or the individual DVD slipcovers? http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Edward-James-Olmos/dp/B000AJJNFE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1252626775&sr=8-1 vicmackey187 09-10-09, 08:13 PM Are you asking for Season 1 DVD box art or the individual DVD slipcovers? http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Edward-James-Olmos/dp/B000AJJNFE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1252626775&sr=8-1 Not BSG at all. I'm looking for a physical copy of the LOST S1 cardstock slipcover that came with the set (in lieu of the more sturdy case that was made for the S3 set. I got a used one yesterday without said cover. HDMe2 09-10-09, 09:59 PM Another gripe point... Each disc one for each season plays for the first time with an intro from the producer bragging about Blu ray and how the show was shot in high-def from the beginning. Ok... so why, then, are the deleted scenes on the Blu ray in SD? One would think that if the show was shot in HD from the beginning, then the rough-cuts of the deleted scenes would still be in HD unless they actually took time to reduce them to SD for some reason. jordy475 09-10-09, 10:44 PM Another gripe point... Each disc one for each season plays for the first time with an intro from the producer bragging about Blu ray and how the show was shot in high-def from the beginning. Ok... so why, then, are the deleted scenes on the Blu ray in SD? One would think that if the show was shot in HD from the beginning, then the rough-cuts of the deleted scenes would still be in HD unless they actually took time to reduce them to SD for some reason. When I used to video edit we would capture footage at a low quality for the initial editing, the when the final edit decision list was complete the footage would be re-captured in high Quality for final project, using time codes for recreating exact edits, in this case deleted scenes would have never been recaptured or re-assembled in High qaulity... My experiance was with Final cut pro and was with Mini DV so I do not know if this how the Pro's do it with HD these days... thought I'd chime in. But I agree this would have been nice to have all of these scenes in HD, as well as the webisodes. faust1103 09-10-09, 10:53 PM Waiting for one more cap, and perhaps an image correction from other users on the forum. Looks like it got pushed back to next week. The other problem is that if people want it sized for the Amray Cases, I'll have to make and post two separate copies (I originally intended to make it for the Box Set size only), although from my end, sizing it for the smaller cases will give me a good template for my next project -- LOST S1 & S2 booklets. (Speaking of, anyone got an extra slipcover for S1?) Hopefully I'll get a chance to start the final layout this weekend. @vicmackey187 I have some HiRes publicity stills from BSG available. If you are looking for a particular image please send me a pm. I would be happy to help out. HDMe2 09-10-09, 11:56 PM When I used to video edit we would capture footage at a low quality for the initial editing, the when the final edit decision list was complete the footage would be re-captured in high Quality for final project, using time codes for recreating exact edits, in this case deleted scenes would have never been recaptured or re-assembled in High qaulity... My experiance was with Final cut pro and was with Mini DV so I do not know if this how the Pro's do it with HD these days... thought I'd chime in. But I agree this would have been nice to have all of these scenes in HD, as well as the webisodes. That's a good point... and I wouldn't have even questioned the SD deleted scenes if it weren't for having to watch that "this is how we shot BSG in HD" video 3 times now! #4 will be when I get to season 4 discs.. although my fear is it might be on the Razor disc, 4.0, and then 4.5... so I might have 3 more viewings of that intro to sit through! Even better point on the webisodes... those were presumably finished so I'm surprised we didn't get those in HD... unless they didn't shoot the Webisodes in HD. Meanwhile, on a weird note... It's interesting how some of the deleted scenes actually make it partially into future episodes as flashbacks OR sometimes in the opening credits "previously on BSG" scenes... so unlike some deleted scenes that "never happened" it would appear that many of the BSG deleted scenes are actually in continuity scenes that just didn't air. vicmackey187 09-11-09, 12:58 AM OK, before I go nuts fixing the sizes of all these pages, let's see if they work first. I used the measurements provided by Nathan Webel and shinksma to create full rez, size-scaled templates. Here is a test for the Amaray Case size (9.5 x 5.97in) http://www.mediafire.com/file/mmwmjuyjcmx/AMRAY TEST PAGE.pdf Here is a test for the Box Set size (my preferred version, 9.52 x 6.147 in) http://www.mediafire.com/file/ort31ylzqzr/BOX SET TEST PAGE.pdf Seeing as how I don't have a (reliable) printer, hopefully one of you can print/trim 'em and see if they fit. In order to preserve the proportions, I kept the width of the Box Set page constant, but the height is a little smaller. The Amaray case images are slightly stretched out. (The original individual page designs are 8x11, which seems proportionally different from the Amaray Case when scaled down.). I also left a tiny gap between the two images to allow for the inevitable folding/batching of multiple pages. They shouldn't need to be further scaled downward when printing, but 9.5 does sound like it will bleed off the edges. If there's a trick to it, let us know, so that I can incorporate it into the final instructions. FYI, all the previous links are now dead in anticipation for the final release. I will most likely end up publishing both sizes. HDMe2, the producers started the "new" footage trick during the previouslies in S2 in order to get around the various holes they left during the narrative (I believe they specifically mention this tactic in the commentary for "Daybreak" or "Islanded in A Stream". Cheap storytelling method, but whatever. And yes, I too would have preferred the webisodes in HD, but they (and the deleted scenes) were of the same quality in the DVD sets as well. jordy475, I guess that explains why most deleted scenes i see on DVD/Blu are usually of lesser Video quality. faust1103 09-11-09, 05:16 AM @Vic Box set size looks good to me. When you release the final pdf files could you also offer a version that has the pages in a chronological order within the file? Acrobat has the option to print those as a booklet and it makes it easier to view. Thanks again for your hard work on this. Boogie7910 09-11-09, 11:18 AM I just finished the series recently and one question has been bugging me since maybe season 3... Why didn't Laura Roslin just inject more of Hera's blood in her to cure the cancer again??? Rl3058 09-11-09, 03:39 PM Darknight, The "J" in Jamie Bamber's name is missing on the "Razor" cover also the catalog number on the spine of BSG season 1 & 2, shouldn't they be reversed or was this intentional? HDMe2 09-11-09, 09:30 PM I just finished the series recently and one question has been bugging me since maybe season 3... Why didn't Laura Roslin just inject more of Hera's blood in her to cure the cancer again??? One possible explanation: One possibility I saw thrown out when these originally aired was that perhaps it wasn't antibodies in the babies blood after all, but rather something in the amniotic fluid... basically an "out" that whatever was there during the pregnancy that was used to "cure" her cancer was no longer there after the baby's birth. It's revisionist history mind you, but the only continuity way to explain why they couldn't develop a further cure from Hera once they got her back. Zepeleptic 09-11-09, 11:27 PM Hope I am posting in the right thread. Two quick things: 1) Really Looking forward to Version 4.0 of that booklet! Looks awesome! 2) Hope I didnt miss anything important I have read through the past pages, am I too late to arrange to buy some of those multi disc cases? Could someone send me a pm? Thanks! Eric shadowrage 09-12-09, 12:22 AM I just finished the series recently and one question has been bugging me since maybe season 3... Why didn't Laura Roslin just inject more of Hera's blood in her to cure the cancer again??? I could be wrong but didn't she stopped because she thought they were the source of her visions, then she see decides that she doesn't want the responsibility of being the leader as depicted in the prophecies moob 09-12-09, 01:22 AM I just finished the series recently and one question has been bugging me since maybe season 3... Why didn't Laura Roslin just inject more of Hera's blood in her to cure the cancer again??? One possible explanation: One possibility I saw thrown out when these originally aired was that perhaps it wasn't antibodies in the babies blood after all, but rather something in the amniotic fluid... basically an "out" that whatever was there during the pregnancy that was used to "cure" her cancer was no longer there after the baby's birth. It's revisionist history mind you, but the only continuity way to explain why they couldn't develop a further cure from Hera once they got her back. I got this from the Syfy website: (http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/cast/index.php?sub=roslin) Though she has risen to the challenge of leading the fleet with class, confidence, intelligence and stoicism, she also battled breast cancer before it was sent into remission by a stem-cell treatment from Hera, the human-Cylon infant. So I guess that explains it. Weird that they have it on her bio page but not in the show itself. HDMe2 09-12-09, 03:46 PM So I guess that explains it. Weird that they have it on her bio page but not in the show itself. I believe it is another example of how they changed their minds mid-stream... after they figured having a "magic bullet" situation was bad for the show. Unfortunately, they never fully explained the change within the show, so it leaves the viewer wondering "wha hoppen". whitestang06 09-12-09, 07:39 PM I just finished the series recently and one question has been bugging me since maybe season 3... Why didn't Laura Roslin just inject more of Hera's blood in her to cure the cancer again??? A reporter on the show asked her the same question, but no answer was ever given. Could be that it was tried, but it didn't work. Helo and Sharon may have been too pissed at her to allow it again. Any number of possibles. Honestly, it probably isn't all that important. vicmackey187 09-12-09, 11:46 PM 9/12 update: Layout is 75% done for Box Set and Amaray Case sizes. I printed two test pages, the measurements for the Box Set size were fine, the Amaray Case was too big (vertically). I am NOT reformatting every page for the horizontal increase (proportionally speaking), nor will I release a version that has stretched images (anathema to my sensibilities), therefore the Amaray Case version will be slightly smaller than its standard insert size (horizontally). Layout is in Adobe Acrobat, it was reported up thread that one can set an option to print a booklet (which automagically repaginates everything). Is that correct (?), because I'd rather not have to post 4 different copies (2 x normal layout version, 2x print layout). Since I've resized everything, one (theoretically) shouldn't need to resize it any further. Or perhaps there's a known ratio one can print the Box Version in that would fit the A case, which I'd rather utilize (less work for me = faster release time). (ARRGH too many options). Anyone have any thoughts? faust1103 09-13-09, 06:55 AM 9/12 update: Layout is in Adobe Acrobat, it was reported up thread that one can set an option to print a booklet (which automagically repaginates everything). Is that correct (?) Hi, yes that's correct. You can leave the pages in Acrobat in the chronoligical order and the program will sort them out. Looking forward to the booklet (large size). Any estimated release date as yet? klgrl7681 09-13-09, 01:19 PM I'm in heaven. I bought this set on Thursday and got my first home theater system on Saturday (Sony HTS-S360). Watched the mini-series and "33" on my 50" Sony Wega in surround sound...*Blissful sigh* petergaryr 09-14-09, 04:22 PM To anyone who has the complete set: On disk 3 of Season 4, there are 3 entries: Daybreak Part 1, Daybreak Parts 2 and 3, and then the extended Daybreak. Does that final one contain 1, 2 and 3 as one "episode"? Honey1 09-14-09, 04:45 PM To anyone who has the complete set: On disk 3 of Season 4, there are 3 entries: Daybreak Part 1, Daybreak Parts 2 and 3, and then the extended Daybreak. Does that final one contain 1, 2 and 3 as one "episode"? yes, it contains all the footage of Parts 1-3 (i.e. the material seen on Sci-Fi) plus some footage never before seen. Also, parts 1-3 have the podcast commentary, while the extended version has another commentary by Moore, Eick and Rymer. I prefered the podcast commentary. Vortex3D 09-14-09, 05:54 PM This review site has details on all the bonus materials on each disc: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2323/battlestargalacticacompleteseries.html petergaryr 09-14-09, 06:29 PM yes, it contains all the footage of Parts 1-3 (i.e. the material seen on Sci-Fi) plus some footage never before seen. Also, parts 1-3 have the podcast commentary, while the extended version has another commentary by Moore, Eick and Rymer. I prefered the podcast commentary. Wonderful. Thank you. I"m one episode away from the finale so that helps a lot. petergaryr 09-14-09, 06:29 PM This review site has details on all the bonus materials on each disc: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2323/battlestargalacticacompleteseries.html Cool. Thanks. Dan Hitchman 09-14-09, 06:42 PM Can't wait for the UK version later this month!! The U.S. packaging was just too stupid for words and the UK tin is cheaper too. shadowrage 09-14-09, 07:32 PM Can't wait for the UK version later this month!! The U.S. packaging was just too stupid for words and the UK tin is cheaper too. Don't forget the episode guide.:cool: And plastic(superior to cardboard) trays. I've had mine on pre-order forever. Now off to leave sacrifices to the gods, so that it doesn't get dented in shipment.;) (/knocks on wood) pikaheheen 09-14-09, 11:19 PM In case anyone here is interested, I've shopped some custom covers for my Complete Series set and have posted them to my blog. If anyone is interested I can put up some links to them. http://imgur.com/N1R7o.png eric.exe 09-15-09, 04:12 AM Australian version pics: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=2319637&postcount=11 Wish we in the US had that option. faust1103 09-15-09, 04:14 AM In case anyone here is interested, I've shopped some custom covers for my Complete Series set and have posted them to my blog. If anyone is interested I can put up some links to them. http://imgur.com/N1R7o.png These look nice as well. Are they designed for 2 disc BD cases? Links would be appreciated. IndianaJones00 09-15-09, 04:28 AM Can't wait for the UK version later this month!! The U.S. packaging was just too stupid for words and the UK tin is cheaper too. UK release is next Monday so pre-orders should start being sent out in the next few days, pre-ordered my copy yesterday for £102 delivered :) Harlock415 09-15-09, 05:01 AM In case anyone here is interested, I've shopped some custom covers for my Complete Series set and have posted them to my blog. If anyone is interested I can put up some links to them. http://imgur.com/N1R7o.png These look nice as well. Are they designed for 2 disc BD cases? Links would be appreciated. I see 11 cases there, so it looks like Razor is in it's own case? I would be very interested in these. stumlad 09-15-09, 06:46 AM Australian version pics: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=2319637&postcount=11 Wish we in the US had that option. Looked good until I noticed that slipcover does not match the blu-ray case cover. All of the info is on the back cover of the slipcase, but not on the blu-ray case cover. Similar to Transformers BD (the original with slipcover). Not that it matters a whole lot, but I'm not really a fan of slipcovers... what exactly is the point of them? Edit: I just noticed something... Does it say age 12 is minimum required? I would think the show is too adult oriented for a 12 yr old.... especially some of the Gaius/Six scenes in season 1. The back cover of one of the slip cases says recommended for mature audiences... NeoCortex 09-15-09, 09:49 AM Over in the Blu-Ray.com forums, someone found a vendor selling 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 disc Blu-Ray Vortex cases. http://www.vernonlibrarysupplies.com/vortex-blu-ray-disc-cases.html lvthunder 09-15-09, 10:28 AM Looked good until I noticed that slipcover does not match the blu-ray case cover. All of the info is on the back cover of the slipcase, but not on the blu-ray case cover. Similar to Transformers BD (the original with slipcover). Not that it matters a whole lot, but I'm not really a fan of slipcovers... what exactly is the point of them? Edit: I just noticed something... Does it say age 12 is minimum required? I would think the show is too adult oriented for a 12 yr old.... especially some of the Gaius/Six scenes in season 1. The back cover of one of the slip cases says recommended for mature audiences... That's probably tame compared to some of the stuff you see on TV over there. geekyglassesgirl 09-15-09, 11:50 AM Over in the Blu-Ray.com forums, someone found a vendor selling 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 disc Blu-Ray Vortex cases. http://www.vernonlibrarysupplies.com/vortex-blu-ray-disc-cases.html OMG! I know it's because I live in the middle of nowhere, but it told me $96 for shipping! I suspect if I called them and told them they could use another method rather than "federal express ground" for that much they probably would, but wow! Luckily I've forwarded that link to the Aussie company to my dad, who lives over there. He's going to get me 6 cases and put them in with the box they send for my kids' christmas presents. :) Edited to add: I changed out my arctic info to my uncle's info down in Alberta and the shipping went down to around $15. I wonder if they think it has to go via either first class on the airlines or... via dogsled to justify that insane jump in price. :eek: pikaheheen 09-15-09, 12:01 PM I see 11 cases there, so it looks like Razor is in it's own case? I would be very interested in these. Here is a link to the blog post that I made about these covers, it gives details on the covers and provides links to the 300dpi files. The covers are for double disc cases because 6 disc cases are a pain to find for a reasonable price. http://www.leonardscomic.com/comic/88/custom-blu-ray-packaging/ geekyglassesgirl 09-15-09, 12:08 PM Here is a link to the blog post that I made about these covers, it gives details on the covers and provides links to the 300dpi files. The covers are for double disc cases because 6 disc cases are a pain to find for a reasonable price. http://www.leonardscomic.com/comic/88/custom-blu-ray-packaging/ Fantastic job! Great alternative for people who aren't going to get the large cases. Rl3058 09-15-09, 12:36 PM Has anyone heard from Darknight recently? Deviation 09-16-09, 12:34 AM Oh man, I wish we got those Australian releases. :( faust1103 09-16-09, 06:49 AM @vicmackey187 How is the booklet coming along? I am really looking forward to this. :) cobolisdead 09-16-09, 10:27 AM In case anyone here is interested, I've shopped some custom covers for my Complete Series set and have posted them to my blog. If anyone is interested I can put up some links to them. http://imgur.com/N1R7o.png That looks awesome! Rl3058 09-16-09, 01:21 PM Oh man, I wish we got those Australian releases. :( In time perhaps. petergaryr 09-16-09, 01:29 PM Got to watch the last disc yesterday. Took about 2 weeks to work the viewing into my schedule, but it was worth it. What I found fascinating was how well things fit together when viewing the series via BD. I didn't have to try to remember what happened 6 months ago when a "season finale" episode was aired. Crappy packaging aside (and it is....getting the discs into and out of those flimsy cardboard sleeves is a real trick without tearing something, or bending the disc) I have to say that I'm glad I bought the set. NeoCortex 09-16-09, 02:23 PM Over in the Blu-Ray.com forums, someone found a vendor selling 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 disc Blu-Ray Vortex cases. http://www.vernonlibrarysupplies.com/vortex-blu-ray-disc-cases.html I just tried ordering some of these, and it looks like the 5 and 6 disc cases are now on backorder until December. Oh well, it was worth a shot. Dave Vaughn 09-16-09, 03:37 PM I just tried ordering some of these, and it looks like the 5 and 6 disc cases are now on backorder until December. Oh well, it was worth a shot. Holy crap! jordy475 09-16-09, 04:20 PM I just tried ordering some of these, and it looks like the 5 and 6 disc cases are now on backorder until December. Oh well, it was worth a shot. Holy crap! Glad I jumped on these, I figured they would not be able to handle the onslaught of the video crowd once word got out. I have Six 6 disc cases, Two 3 Disc cases and one 5 Disc case that should be arriving tomorrow. All for around 25 bucks I think, not a bad deal at all. Already working on some custom cases!! Dave Vaughn 09-16-09, 04:42 PM I'm in no rush right now, I'm just surprised how fast they went. stevenjw 09-16-09, 05:44 PM In case anyone here is interested, I've shopped some custom covers for my Complete Series set and have posted them to my blog. If anyone is interested I can put up some links to them. http://imgur.com/N1R7o.png Yes, links would great! Not everyone will own 6-disc cases. As someone pointed out, it looks like you use 11 cases to make up your set. I thought the complete series was 20 BD discs total. Why did you opt for 11 instead of 10 cases? Am I missing something? jordy475 09-16-09, 06:42 PM Yes, links would great! Not everyone will own 6-disc cases. As someone pointed out, it looks like you use 11 cases to make up your set. I thought the complete series was 20 BD discs total. Why did you opt for 11 instead of 10 cases? Am I missing something? Post #1074 has the link to the full res covers.... cases were left for the fith disc on seasons two and three (I thinK) as not to mix different seasons in one case i'm guessing HDMe2 09-16-09, 07:29 PM As someone pointed out, it looks like you use 11 cases to make up your set. I thought the complete series was 20 BD discs total. Why did you opt for 11 instead of 10 cases? Am I missing something? I wondered as well... but then I assumed he must have put Razor in a case by itself. geekyglassesgirl 09-16-09, 07:37 PM Here is a link to the blog post that I made about these covers, it gives details on the covers and provides links to the 300dpi files. The covers are for double disc cases because 6 disc cases are a pain to find for a reasonable price. http://www.leonardscomic.com/comic/88/custom-blu-ray-packaging/ If you actually click his link, the discs are explained. A bit about the set: There are 11 cases. I needed an odd number of cases to make sure the spine image wasn't cut directly down the middle with a seam. Seasons 2 and 3 both have a case that contain only one disc (the 5th disc in each season) The Razor disc is included as the first disc of Season 4. Because the fourth season was broken up into 4 & 4.5 (as a money grab in my opinion), I re-numbered the discs on the back. So instead of season 4.5, discs 1, 2, 3, you'll find season 4 discs 3, 4, 5. The back covers have the quote from the official packaging, along with a list of all episodes and special features on a per disc and per episode basis. There is also a legend explaining what each special feature is (ex. Battlestar Blips = On-screen facts and trivia). Each case has three preview images from the episodes on the disc(s) that are contained within. As you move your way through the cases, the back cover will become more and more damaged to reflect Galactica's worsening condition in the series. UxiSXRD 09-16-09, 07:46 PM Too bad that site doesn't have any of the super slim cases. I could use a few more of those. Maybe a couple dozen instead of buying another BD case. :D Harlock415 09-16-09, 09:09 PM Here is a link to the blog post that I made about these covers, it gives details on the covers and provides links to the 300dpi files. The covers are for double disc cases because 6 disc cases are a pain to find for a reasonable price. http://www.leonardscomic.com/comic/88/custom-blu-ray-packaging/ I cropped and printed those up and they look great on the shelf. Thanks for your work. pikaheheen 09-17-09, 11:10 PM I cropped and printed those up and they look great on the shelf. Thanks for your work. Thanks, I'm glad they're useful for someone else :) vicmackey187 09-18-09, 03:49 AM Version 4.0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d25ca4493101b1100f83d91f6dff7c388cb08fc9c91e42b041 6b94653a3044fd) (final). 200 MB multi folder download, including both Box Set and Amaray Case-sized designs, along with separate content/instructions/thank you pamphlet. Enjoy! ss9001 09-18-09, 06:53 AM ^^ I just downloaded the Amaray version. EXCELLENT work!! Very professional. Universal should hire you :D Thank you for all your work on this ss9001 Vortex3D 09-18-09, 12:42 PM Version 4.0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d25ca4493101b1100f83d91f6dff7c388cb08fc9c91e42b041 6b94653a3044fd) (final). 200 MB multi folder download, including both Box Set and Amaray Case-sized designs, along with separate content/instructions/thank you pamphlet. Enjoy! Your professional work shows Hollywood studios often only care to make the external packaging looks attractive for the marketing display. Universal probably spent the entire packaging budget on the impractical box than useful episode guide booklet that is far more useful. It will be funny if Universal uses your excellent episode guide when the individual seasons are released. Good job. HoNuts 09-18-09, 02:20 PM Stunning work vicmackey187, UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!! UN-FRAKKING-BELIEVABLE!!!!!! geekyglassesgirl 09-18-09, 02:29 PM Version 4.0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d25ca4493101b1100f83d91f6dff7c388cb08fc9c91e42b041 6b94653a3044fd) (final). 200 MB multi folder download, including both Box Set and Amaray Case-sized designs, along with separate content/instructions/thank you pamphlet. Enjoy! Man, I know I've said it before but I have to say it again. This is such a fantastic job. Just looking through the guide and seeing the pictures, as well as how well-laid out it is makes me wish I had the time to just vege out and watch the entire series right now. :D erkq 09-18-09, 02:30 PM Dumb question, but how do I download from that site? Do I need to open my own account, move the files to my account and download from there? geekyglassesgirl 09-18-09, 02:54 PM Dumb question, but how do I download from that site? Do I need to open my own account, move the files to my account and download from there? I just clicked into the folders, then it was listed BOX SET BOOKLET and in the other folder AMARAY CASE BOOK (bit longer than that but you get the idea) and I could d/l the files directly from there. Click those and it brings you to the page that says it will d/l. I figured maybe I was having issues b/c I'm using Safari, but this is what worked for me. Also just click the READ ME FIRST thing and it will d/l too. vicmackey187 09-18-09, 03:25 PM Post from 'Bad Karma' date='Sep 18 2009, 10:39 AM' post='14275' Hey Vic... Fantastic!!!! I downloaded all three versions. They are awesome However, There is a problem with the Amaray case file. On page 8 only half the image shows and Acrobat gives and error of "Insufficient Data for an Image." I downloaded the individual page replaced it and saved it with Acrobat Professional. So I am good to go but others may not be able to do this. Again, many many thanks!!! Problem fixed, I made a replacement file and swapped it out with the old one. (this is also why I had all the individual pages up as well). Tspeer 09-18-09, 05:02 PM I've downloaded them and am getting ready to print the (PRINT LAYOUT FORMAT) version for the box set booklet. But theres an odd number of pages in the PDF. Doesnt there need to be an even number since we are double sided printing? Edit: I can confirm my suspicions, it needs another page (another 2 pages in the booklet). Has to be divisible by 4 (the number of booklet pages) to print 2 pages per side of 8.5 x 11 paper to be able to make into a booklet. Edit again: Ok looking closely at all the pages, it appears that the last 2 pages are duplicates. So if I just print pages 1 thru 16, leaving out page 17, that its a proper booklet. petergaryr 09-18-09, 05:26 PM Version 4.0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d25ca4493101b1100f83d91f6dff7c388cb08fc9c91e42b041 6b94653a3044fd) (final). 200 MB multi folder download, including both Box Set and Amaray Case-sized designs, along with separate content/instructions/thank you pamphlet. Enjoy! I'll echo what others have said: excellent work. You may want to consider creating a new post with the links to the booklet and the case inserts, then asking a mod to make it a sticky. This work is too valuable to be buried so deep into the thread. I'm sure many will find your work incredibly helpful. geekyglassesgirl 09-18-09, 06:22 PM Slightly OT but I thought maybe one of you guys in this thread might know. Is "The Plan" being released on Blu when the DVD is being released? Paul Arnette 09-18-09, 06:36 PM Awesome work, vicmackey187! However, I must be an idiot because I read the Read Me First, and I still don't understand how to print this out. Are the pages supposed to be in order from the top to the bottom of the print layout format documents? I see pages number referred to in the Read Me First, but no page numbers on the document. Help! :D UxiSXRD 09-18-09, 06:38 PM Version 4.0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d25ca4493101b1100f83d91f6dff7c388cb08fc9c91e42b041 6b94653a3044fd) (final). 200 MB multi folder download, including both Box Set and Amaray Case-sized designs, along with separate content/instructions/thank you pamphlet. Enjoy! Great booklet. Was a part of this also individual case covers or is that something else? EDIT: Ah that was pikaheheen's post for the covers. Good stuff all the way around! jordy475 09-18-09, 06:39 PM Slightly OT but I thought maybe one of you guys in this thread might know. Is "The Plan" being released on Blu when the DVD is being released? October 27th Blu and DVD, I'm really interested in this one!! geekyglassesgirl 09-18-09, 07:15 PM October 27th Blu and DVD, I'm really interested in this one!! Thank you! :) faust1103 09-18-09, 08:15 PM @vicmackey187 Great work on the booklet. Thanks a million. Now I have to find out an affordable copy shop to print this out. vicmackey187 09-18-09, 08:28 PM Thanks for all the compliments, they're greatly appreciated. Be sure to thank stumlad for all his Blu Ray caps as well. I'll be working on booklets for LOST SEASON 1 & 2 after this (which are *thankfully*not as elaborate), so look for those soon (in the Custom Covers thread) if you're interested. Awesome work, vicmackey187! However, I must be an idiot because I read the Read Me First, and I still don't understand how to print this out. Are the pages supposed to be in order from the top to the bottom of the print layout format documents? I see pages number referred to in the Read Me First, but no page numbers on the document. Help! :D When you open it in Adobe Reader, click the little bookmark icon on the top of the left bar (second from top, has a ribbon over two pages). This will open up the page view, along with the names of each of the original pages ("01 FINAL PRINT LAYOUT AMARAY," "02 FINAL..." Now when you go to print, take a physical page and lay it down on a surface. The side you can't see (touching the surface) is the back. The side you're looking at is the front. Therefore, the order is as follows: 01 goes on the first page, on the back, 02 on the front. Insert a new page (Second) and print 03 on the back, 04 on the front. Insert a third page.... and so on/so forth in that order (per the instructions in the READ ME FIRST file). If it helps, you can label your physical pages on the top corners since there's no printing image there (assuming you're using the correct print settings-- after all, I think many printers automatically default images (increasing or decreasing them) to fit an 8x11 page). DO NOT set your printer to FIT TO PAGE when printing, they're already sized to fit the Case or Box (minus the dead space and black horizontal borders). Page scaling should be set at "none." It also might help to print only one page at a time, as everyone's printer is different and you don't want to end up with upside down pages (i.e. check your alignment in the way the printer actually prints on a page. I use a little arrow in the top corner myself.) petergaryr: You may want to consider creating a new post with the links to the booklet and the case inserts, then asking a mod to make it a sticky. This work is too valuable to be buried so deep into the thread. I'm sure many will find your work incredibly helpful. I might post a cross reference in the Custom Covers thread, but for now, the die hards who have been following this thread deserve it first. Tspeer: Edit again: Ok looking closely at all the pages, it appears that the last 2 pages are duplicates. So if I just print pages 1 thru 16, leaving out page 17, that its a proper booklet. Yes, the physical layout is correct (I made sure of it with my dummy copy, that's why there's a few spreads in there, to pad the pages out to a multiple of 4), I placed the alt page with the different cast list at the end (04A). You should only be printing pages 1-16 (01-16), and not 17 (04A). 17 (04A) is there for those who prefer the BSG Propworx inspired cast list (oddly enough, the people on the Propworx forum preferred my final version). So say you wanted to use 04A instead of 04. I'd batch print pages 1-3 first, and then use the single sheet with the blank side to print 04A (by itself) on the blank half. You can then go back in and batch print the remaining pages. faust1103: Now I have to find out an affordable copy shop to print this out. I'd suggest using an independent one (and not a Staples/Kinkos) as they have issues with copyrighted material that makes them difficult to deal with sometimes. But they may print it out, who knows. geekyglassesgirl 09-18-09, 08:55 PM How have people been printing it out, anyway, for those of you who've printed it at home? What I mean by that is, glossy paper/photo paper etc? Or is everyone getting it done professionally? NeoCortex 09-19-09, 09:48 AM How have people been printing it out, anyway, for those of you who've printed it at home? What I mean by that is, glossy paper/photo paper etc? Or is everyone getting it done professionally? I used glossy brochure paper from Staples, and used a photo inkjet printer. It came out looking and feeling as good as a professional booklet. Phil Tomaskovic 09-19-09, 12:26 PM My copy from amazon.co.uk shipped today! I mean "dispatched" :-) stoplis 09-19-09, 01:19 PM I'm excited now, mine been dispatched. I live in the UK, so it should come with a booklet, but if its not very good I may end up using this one. Looking forward to a booklet for Lost as well! geekyglassesgirl 09-19-09, 02:42 PM I used glossy brochure paper from Staples, and used a photo inkjet printer. It came out looking and feeling as good as a professional booklet. Thanks! :) vicmackey187 09-19-09, 04:25 PM I used glossy brochure paper from Staples, and used a photo inkjet printer. It came out looking and feeling as good as a professional booklet. What did that run you, I'm shopping around for printers myself... Dan Hitchman 09-19-09, 04:29 PM UK release is next Monday so pre-orders should start being sent out in the next few days, pre-ordered my copy yesterday for £102 delivered :) Mine shipped today from the UK. Also knocking on any wood I can find that Amazon packaged it well enough to survive the trip across the pond. NeoCortex 09-19-09, 10:33 PM What did that run you, I'm shopping around for printers myself... The printer was one that I just picked up off of Amazon. It's a Epson NX415 that I got off of Amazon for about $70. It's an all-in-one that did an excellent job printing the booklet. Although it did go through about half of the included ink to print it. So worth it, though. erkq 09-19-09, 10:49 PM The printer was one that I just picked up off of Amazon. It's a Epson NX415 that I got off of Amazon for about $70. It's an all-in-one that did an excellent job printing the booklet. Although it did go through about half of the included ink to print it. So worth it, though. Yep... it's gonna get to the point where buying a new printer is the cheapest way to get ink. :) Buy the printer, use the ink, then throw it all away and repeat. Bumbuliuz 09-19-09, 11:23 PM Got my set today, loving it and well worth the money and the cost of importing it. IndianaJones00 09-20-09, 07:50 AM I recieved my UK set yesterday and we have some funny retailers over here as they thought a jiffy bag would be enough protection for a metal tin :eek: Luckily it wasnt too badly dented and I have been able to smooth out most of them, overall not a bad set, has all the same discs as the US set but the packaging is alot smaller with just trays for each season with cardboard slipcases housed in foam. Guess the most important extra is the booklet which details the story, characters and episodes. Well worth the £103 I paid :) Darknight 09-20-09, 08:50 AM Has anyone heard from Darknight recently? I'm still around =) Sorry I've been gone away on a two week vacation. In fact I'm still on the plane at the moment (free Wi-Fi on a plane is amazing). I'm glad this thread is still going strong and can't wait to look at all the work Vic has been doing on his book. When I get back later today and after I'm a bit rested, I'll get caught up in this thread and can clean up my inbox which apparently is full now. Once all that is done, I can help anyone with any tweaks they may need on my cover set. I haven't forgotten about your variant =) Rl3058 09-20-09, 02:07 PM Darknight, glad your back, BTW I found these on the covers you might want to correct them. The "J" in Jamie Bamber's name is missing on the "Razor" cover, also the catalog number on the spine of BSG season 1 & 2, shouldn't they be reversed or was this intentional? Season 1 = 2010178 Season 2 = 2010177 Season 3 = 2010179 Season 4 = 2010180 HoNuts 09-20-09, 02:19 PM Darknight, would it be possible for you to post 21.8mm versions of you Battlestar covers for those of us that just bought those types of cases? You and vicmackey187 have done some legendary work on these Battlestar Galactica sets and I can't thank you enough. Thanks. rdgrimes 09-21-09, 12:46 PM Ready to pull the trigger here on the UK series set, but waiting to hear from someone who has gotten this shipped to the USA. Is the Amazon packing good enough? Are all discs region-free? protovision 09-21-09, 01:07 PM Same here, its cheaper to order from UK + shipping + exchange rate than the set is here in Canada by about $50, so looking to see if its worth the risk. That previous post about it arriving dented doesn't sound good. Has anyone seen the set for <$200 CDN? IndianaJones00 09-21-09, 01:43 PM Ready to pull the trigger here on the UK series set, but waiting to hear from someone who has gotten this shipped to the USA. Is the Amazon packing good enough? Are all discs region-free? The discs are identical to the US discs, complete with FBI warnings and no region coding however I am not sure how well it would survive a journey to Canada as people here in the UK have been recieving their sets from Amazon today and some are dented. JakiChan 09-22-09, 02:24 AM Has anyone else noticed that the HD special features are 720p, not 1080p? Also, does anyone see flickering in the menu video for season 4? shadowrage 09-22-09, 02:38 AM UK or US set? Or both since they are supposed to be the same. Also what hardware are you using? I wouldn't be too upset about 720p extras, that's still HD. HD extras rock.:) It was so much cheaper to import the UK set, I just got a 2p refund because the price changed at some point. Came out to just over $160 shipped in the end.:cool: I can't wait to get it. How much did it cost you guys that went the custom route in total(cases, art, episode printout, + BSG set)? stoplis 09-22-09, 06:18 AM Got mine today, Amazon did a good job of packing it. Not a single dint! I've now got the long job of watching them all now. ss9001 09-22-09, 01:04 PM How much did it cost you guys that went the custom route in total(cases, art, episode printout, + BSG set)? US set - ~$200 6 disc cases - ~$30 paper & ink for covers & ep guide - ~$60 So UK version should be much cheaper way to go if it comes with ep guide. But we got the cylon figurine ;) :p ss9001 erkq 09-22-09, 01:39 PM US set - ~$200 6 disc cases - ~$30 paper & ink for covers & ep guide - ~$60 So UK version should be much cheaper way to go if it comes with ep guide. But we got the cylon figurine ;) :p ss9001 And, you got it sooner. Can't forget that. geekyglassesgirl 09-22-09, 01:50 PM How much did it cost you guys that went the custom route in total(cases, art, episode printout, + BSG set)? BSG Set - Silence the "I'm Going Golfing" nagging gift from the husband - $0.00 6-disc cases - Christmas present incoming in December from folks who live in Australia - $0.00 Glossy brochure paper - $20.00/50 sheets Ink - $50.00 for new set. So... $70 total, once I buy the paper & ink, because I'm a spoiled brat! :D ss9001 09-22-09, 06:49 PM ^^ :d JakiChan 09-23-09, 12:18 AM UK or US set? Or both since they are supposed to be the same. Also what hardware are you using? US set, PS3->Denon AVR-3808CI->Sony KDL-52XBR6. rdgrimes 09-25-09, 05:31 PM So has nobody from the USA or Canada yet gotten the complete set from Amazon UK? How was it packed? Dented? Dan Hitchman 09-25-09, 05:37 PM Should get my UK set any day now... any day now! Damn you, Amazon... I meant today!! :D Phil Tomaskovic 09-25-09, 07:07 PM Just opened mine up....I think I should have kept the Deep Discount order! Case is ok, slight dimpled line along the front near the edge opposite the hinge. But the inside is worse! The discs are basically in red plastic holders like the inside of a cd jewel case with clear tape along the the edge so that all the disc holders are attached for a season. Not sure how long they will stay together. The worst thing is the cardboard/paper sleeve/slipcover is so tight it literally took me 5 minutes to push the discs out of it. Season 1 was terrible, the others were slightly more loose. I thought I was going to have to cut along the edge in order to get the discs out of season 1! About the only thing somewhat decent is the plastic inside the metal container which has the 4 holes cut out to hold each season. So I have to say cheezy at best. Dan Hitchman 09-25-09, 07:17 PM Phil, I guess I'll take less cheesy packaging and jewel cases with an episode guide than the crazy and more expensive US cardboard contraption with paper slip sleeves that could scratch the discs with no episode guide at all. Universal needs a new box set designer no matter what. Hopefully, I might be seeing this set today or tomorrow from my postman! :D Phil Tomaskovic 09-25-09, 07:26 PM Phil, I guess I'll take less cheesy packaging and jewel cases with an episode guide than the crazy and more expensive US cardboard contraption with paper slip sleeves that could scratch the discs with no episode guide at all. Universal needs a new box set designer no matter what. Hopefully, I might be seeing this set today or tomorrow from my postman! :D no prob. Let me know if your season 1 sleeve is skintight. I need to have the discs stick out about an inch in order to take it off. rdgrimes 09-25-09, 07:37 PM Just opened mine up....I think I should have kept the Deep Discount order! Case is ok, slight dimpled line along the front near the edge opposite the hinge. How was it packed? Phil Tomaskovic 09-25-09, 07:47 PM How was it packed?shrink wrapped to a piece of cardboard the size of the box so it wouldn't move around. I don't think the dimples in the metal were due to amazon's shipping. ss9001 09-26-09, 10:51 AM The best option may be getting the 6 disc Amaray cases from Australia & printed up the posted covers & episode guide. While it takes some time, patience & ink, they came out looking great. As professional looking as if they were done by the studio. Unfortunate that the UK version's packaging also has issues. I just received Season 2 of Star Trek TOS. What a difference compared to Paramount's HD-DVD season 1 clamshell plastic monstrosity and Uni's BSG - it's an elegant looking & practical boxed set. No frills, no gimmicks. Just looks great on the rack! rdgrimes 09-26-09, 11:37 AM Pulled the trigger on the UK set from Amazon. Good to note that the price I was charged was less than the advertised price. Total came to $167 shipped. geekyglassesgirl 09-26-09, 11:42 AM Those of you who have the UK set, how does the guide compare to the excellent work our fellow poster vicmackey187 has made? vicmackey187 09-26-09, 10:37 PM +1. (Apparently someone (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17249316#post17249316) liked my design so much they completely co-opted it for their own LOST booklets.) ss9001 09-26-09, 11:01 PM ^^ You did a great job on BSG Mouth_of_Sauron 09-27-09, 06:08 AM I made some custom BSG covers and posted them under the "Custom Covers" thread (link below). Let me know what you think. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17220342#post17220342 Bill C. 09-27-09, 06:24 PM Those are some beautiful covers, Mouth--except for one thing: the Face of the Enemy webisodes weren't included in the set, unless they snuck them in and I completely missed the memo... Mouth_of_Sauron 09-28-09, 01:23 AM Those are some beautiful covers, Mouth--except for one thing: the Face of the Enemy webisodes weren't included in the set, unless they snuck them in and I completely missed the memo... The Face Of The Enemy was far too big of an omission, so I made my own custom disc to include in the set. http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9522/fotesmall.jpg shadowrage 09-28-09, 02:50 AM I need that.:) One question does it really have DTS-MA?;) Stupid Royal Mail, my X-Men set took 3 days to get to me from the UK. The BSG set is going on a week. The anticipation...it hurts.:eek: Mouth_of_Sauron 09-28-09, 05:13 AM I need that.:) One question does it really have DTS-MA?;) Stupid Royal Mail, my X-Men set took 3 days to get to me from the UK. The BSG set is going on a week. The anticipation...it hurts.:eek: Um.... no. But it does boast some pretty sweet stereo sound (which may in fact actually be mono just split into 2 channels) :). Better than not having it at all though. I used the highest resolution AVIs I could find and then joined them into a single video. I thought about changing the DTS logos etc, but decided I'd just leave it matching the rest of the discs (except replacing the large Blu-Ray logo for DivX) ss9001 09-28-09, 07:56 AM I used the highest resolution AVIs I could find and then joined them into a single video. Are these the SciFi (SyFy) channel's versions or some other source? Please PM link if needed ;) Thanks ss9001 Mouth_of_Sauron 09-28-09, 04:27 PM Are these the SciFi (SyFy) channel's versions or some other source? Please PM link if needed ;) Thanks ss9001 I'm not sure the original source, I found a torrent of them. They are 704x396. I'll try to find the link to the torrent. The sound for a couple of the webisodes at this resolution was out of sync so this needed to be corrected before joining them. The merged file is 380MB, so I'm not sure how I can get it too you. Tspeer 09-28-09, 05:29 PM I'm not sure the original source, I found a torrent of them. They are 704x396. I'll try to find the link to the torrent. The sound for a couple of the webisodes at this resolution was out of sync so this needed to be corrected before joining them. The merged file is 380MB, so I'm not sure how I can get it too you. I'm interested in these too, but no idea how to re-sync audio. jordy475 09-29-09, 11:27 PM I'm not sure the original source, I found a torrent of them. They are 704x396. I'll try to find the link to the torrent. The sound for a couple of the webisodes at this resolution was out of sync so this needed to be corrected before joining them. The merged file is 380MB, so I'm not sure how I can get it too you. Sauron, thank you for the work on face of the enemy and the audio fixing. I had torrented these as well but didn't know how to fix the audio. Got your files and burned the avi to a DVD. These look awesome when played through my OPPO 981 DVD Player output to 1080P, can't speak for audio, I am using headphones at the moment as the GF is sleeping. Now we just need these editied together as one complete show with no breaks, I did this with the versions I had but the program I used had a choppy, glitchy output, watchable but annoying. I will stick to Saurons version for the time being! These AVI's, in my opinion, put the Resistance episodes that are on the official release to shame, as they are my BIGGEST personal gripe on the complete set. They look bad and are in Non-Anamorphic widescreen. These webisodes,to me, are critical to the series and deserve to be treated in the same respect as the official episodes. Were the resistance episodes ever released on amazon like the face of the enemy were? If that is the case quality copies may be available somewhere!!! Mouth_of_Sauron 09-29-09, 11:45 PM Sauron, thank you for the work on face of the enemy and the audio fixing. I had torrented these as well but didn't know how to fix the audio. Got your files and burned the avi to a DVD. These look awesome when played through my OPPO 981 DVD Player output to 1080P, can't speak for audio, I am using headphones at the moment as the GF is sleeping. Now we just need these editied together as one complete show with no breaks, I did this with the versions I had but the program I used had a choppy, glitchy output, watchable but annoying. I will stick to Saurons version for the time being! These AVI's, in my opinion, put the Resistance episodes that are on the official release to shame, as they are my BIGGEST personal gripe on the complete set. They look bad and are in Non-Anamorphic widescreen. These webisodes,to me, are critical to the series and deserve to be treated in the same respect as the official episodes. Were the resistance episodes ever released on amazon like the face of the enemy were? If that is the case quality copies may be available somewhere!!! Yeah, it took me a while to figure out how to resync the audio... glad i stuck with it though. But I'm a bit confused by what you said though. These are joined together into a single episode length file - when you unRARed the files it should have created a single AVI??? jordy475 09-29-09, 11:51 PM Yeah, it took me a while to figure out how to resync the audio... glad i stuck with it though. But I'm a bit confused by what you said though. These are joined together into a single episode length file - when you unRARed the files it should have created a single AVI??? What i meant was all title cards removed and redundent footage removed (for example footage is repeated from the end of episode two and the beginning of episode three). The episodes would play through with no breaks with a few fades that would appear like commercials only. I understand that it was originally in episodes, but it does work when cut together as my glitchy edit confirmed. Sauron, your version did combine all files to one avi, and played flawlessly, but it did have the title card breaks as was originally intended. Sorry for any confusion!!! Mouth_of_Sauron 09-29-09, 11:57 PM What i meant was all title cards removed and redundent footage removed. The episode would play through with no breaks. I understand that it was originally in episodes, but it does work when cut together as my glitchy edit confirmed. Sauron, your version did combine all files to one avi but it did have the title card breaks, thats all I am getting at. Oh, I see. Yeah, it was a trade off between having them how they were release; but also being able to watch them all in a row. Phil Tomaskovic 09-30-09, 02:02 PM So did anyone else get the UK version and have an impossible time trying to take the season 1 sleeve off the jewel cases? I wrote Universal in the US and they blew me off and said they didn't support foreign versions. Didn't even say who I could contact. Not sure if amazon.uk would pay for shipping to exchange for another? Geoff D 09-30-09, 04:15 PM So did anyone else get the UK version and have an impossible time trying to take the season 1 sleeve off the jewel cases? I wrote Universal in the US and they blew me off and said they didn't support foreign versions. Didn't even say who I could contact. Not sure if amazon.uk would pay for shipping to exchange for another? Yup. Some of the others were pretty tight, too. Once I got 'em off, they stayed off. natecorn 09-30-09, 07:02 PM Will the UK version play in a PS3? I remember HD DVDs were region free but I thought I saw that this was a region 2 release according to amazon.uk Vortex3D 09-30-09, 07:33 PM I'm not sure the original source, I found a torrent of them. They are 704x396. I'll try to find the link to the torrent. The sound for a couple of the webisodes at this resolution was out of sync so this needed to be corrected before joining them. The merged file is 380MB, so I'm not sure how I can get it too you. Xbox Live had Face of the Enemy free before Season 4.5 premiered. I have it downloaded on my X360 hard drive. Is there a way to get the Face of the enemy files off the X360 hard drive into a compatible video format? shadowrage 10-01-09, 01:02 AM Will the UK version play in a PS3? I remember HD DVDs were region free but I thought I saw that this was a region 2 release according to amazon.uk Don't trust any amazon spec info. They play in a US PS3, extras too. It's everything it should have been in first place...almost the sleeve for season 1 is way too tight. Otherwise it's perfect.:D Dan Hitchman 10-01-09, 06:32 PM Yeah, those cardboard sleeves around the plastic trays are a pain. I too will leave them off once they're off. Again, Universal has the lousiest boxset designers in the business. And if you look at the booklet it seems as though it was designed not just for the UK version, but probably was intended for the US release too. I wonder if they didn't just forget to put them in the US sets as a packaging error. I bet if you US set buyers raised enough of a stink they'd mail out those needed episode booklets to you. Deviation 10-02-09, 12:39 AM I had kinda hoped that we'd have news on single season sets by now. Rl3058 10-02-09, 12:39 AM Pics on the UK booklet plz Mouth_of_Sauron 10-02-09, 01:29 AM I had kinda hoped that we'd have news on single season sets by now. This place ships internationally: Season 1 (http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/807066) Season 2 (http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/807067) Season 3 (http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/807068) Season 4 (http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/807069) I assume the content is the same as the Complete Series boxset as they were released at the same time, but you may want to check this. hlindstr 10-02-09, 06:46 AM So did anyone else get the UK version and have an impossible time trying to take the season 1 sleeve off the jewel cases? I wrote Universal in the US and they blew me off and said they didn't support foreign versions. Didn't even say who I could contact. Not sure if amazon.uk would pay for shipping to exchange for another? Well, I wouldn't say impossible time but I admit they all were very very tight. Best technique would be to strongly push bottom of the jewel case with your thumb holding sides of the sleeve with the other hand. It will slowly slide and then you can withdraw rest of it from the bays around the disc. Booklet in the UK edition is quite nice. Its size is similar to CD cover sleeves. Characters bios, episode guide and extras guide are included. Moreover, booklet briefly introduces forthcoming The Plan and even the Caprica series. Centerfold image is the famous reproduction of the last supper. There is almost enough room for The Plan BD (slimmer US case) if you put it on the top of season cases inside the tin :cool:. UK edition has several (18) certification logos around the box and they are "printed" directly to surface. They are not removable stickers. Back cover product and technical information is also printed on the bottom surface of the tin. Numbering of season 4 discs is quite funny. First there are discs 1-2 labeled Season 4 and then there are discs 1-3 labeled as The Final Season which of course means the latter half of the Season 4 (or 4.5). Finally there is Razor disc labeled as Disc 1 of Season 4. rdgrimes 10-05-09, 02:12 PM Received my UK steel box today. Arrived with the inflatable packing cushions. It has one minor dent in the side which I was able to easily push back out. Best part is that the box fits easily on my media shelf, and the "top" opens like a door for easy access to the season sets. Great booklet too. Couldn't be happier with this set. After selling off my DVD sets on the bay, my net cost for this set is around $87. :) mumbles3k 10-05-09, 03:58 PM I know that everyone is saying that the US and UK sets are identical, but can someone with the UK set please confirm that the season one title music used in the UK set is in fact the US theme? Simply put, is the opening title music for Season One the same as the other three seasons on the UK set? Thanks. stoplis 10-05-09, 05:17 PM No, Season 1 has the US (different) opening theme music. mumbles3k 10-05-09, 05:21 PM That's a shame. Now I'm glad I didn't wait for the UK set after all. Thanks for the info. Neo_Reloaded 10-05-09, 05:44 PM I don't see why people complain about the US season 1 music. If you like the UK music better, hey great, there's 3 full seasons of it! You just get a different tune for variety for the first 13 or so episodes. It's not like the US season 1 music was bad, it was just different. mumbles3k 10-05-09, 06:17 PM I don't like the fact that it's there against the wishes of the creative team. It's not like it makes my ears bleed or anything like that. As a piece of music on its own, I actually like it. It just doesn't belong in this show. It sets a tone which clashes with the visuals and with the themes that the story deals with. Its usage in the first season makes those episodes slightly worse. seplant 10-05-09, 07:32 PM I don't like the fact that it's there against the wishes of the creative team. It's not like it makes my ears bleed or anything like that. As a piece of music on its own, I actually like it. It just doesn't belong in this show. It sets a tone which clashes with the visuals and with the themes that the story deals with. Its usage in the first season makes those episodes slightly worse. I personally disagree totally. I happen to like the music used for the opening in the first season better than that used in later seasons. I think I would have liked the later episodes even more if they had stuck with that opening music. But, hey, to each his own! sharkcohen 10-05-09, 07:38 PM I've always been amazed, amused, and entertained by the flap over the theme music. BFD. mumbles3k 10-05-09, 08:39 PM Yeah, I suppose we should be focusing on the important issues, like what font size is used on the UK slipcase or something. :) vläd 10-05-09, 10:41 PM Yeah, I suppose we should be focusing on the important issues, like what font size is used on the UK slipcase or something. :) !@$%^! Now you've gone and done it! ;) sharkcohen 10-05-09, 10:48 PM Lol. Rl3058 10-05-09, 11:15 PM Received my UK steel box today. Arrived with the inflatable packing cushions. It has one minor dent in the side which I was able to easily push back out. Best part is that the box fits easily on my media shelf, and the "top" opens like a door for easy access to the season sets. Great booklet too. Couldn't be happier with this set. After selling off my DVD sets on the bay, my net cost for this set is around $87. Pics on the UK booklet plz rdgrimes 10-05-09, 11:52 PM Pics on the UK booklet plz I'll send you a mental picture. It's the size of a CD case. The first 1/2 are photos and character descriptions of the main characters. The second 1/2 is episode descriptions. Vortex3D 10-07-09, 12:53 PM Same discs as the BSG Complete Series: http://www.dvdtown.com/moviedatabase/release-details/battlestar-galactica-tv-series/blu-ray/27498 ss9001 10-08-09, 12:30 PM ^^ And it's same case cover art as was used for season 1 DVD box set, which I liked. I'd been perfectly happy with those for the complete set. Anyway, those of us who wanted episode guides, cases & case covers for our (ahem) US "complete" set have what we need thanks to several generous & talented forum members :D ss9001 Vortex3D 10-08-09, 01:20 PM ^^ And it's same case cover art as was used for season 1 DVD box set, which I liked. I'd been perfectly happy with those for the complete set. Anyway, those of us who wanted episode guides, cases & case covers for our (ahem) US "complete" set have what we need thanks to several generous & talented forum members :D ss9001 I would imagine for full season DVD box set, Blu-ray version would use the same cover. At least Blu-ray Season 1 uses more durable box set like Season 4.5 than HD DVD. Will be interesting how Season 2 will be released on the Blu-ray, if in single Season 2 box set or two half seasons box sets. Rl3058 10-11-09, 10:37 PM Darknight, I came up with an intresting idea, since BSG:The Plan is the cylons version of what happened during the attack on the colonies, how about making an alternate version of the season 1 cover you made to include it. Vortex3D 10-14-09, 03:52 AM Unrelated to the thread, Number Six and Eight are on Maxim to promote The Plan. http://stars.ign.com/articles/103/1034764p1.html ss9001 10-14-09, 09:10 AM ^^ Nice! :D Samfield 10-14-09, 01:07 PM Unrelated to the thread, Number Six and Eight are on Maxim to promote The Plan. http://stars.ign.com/articles/103/1034764p1.html Pretty hot for a couple of toasters! :cool: Vortex3D 10-14-09, 01:46 PM Pretty hot for a couple of toasters! :cool: How come only the toasters made to the cover of Maxim and no humans? Do you think there will issues of the Maxim magazine on the baseships in The Plan? lvthunder 10-14-09, 01:58 PM If you ask me they don't look that good. Don't get me wrong they are both attractive women, but I think the photographer did a bad job capturing it. NeoCortex 10-14-09, 02:12 PM If you ask me they don't look that good. Don't get me wrong they are both attractive women, but I think the photographer did a bad job capturing it. The photographer did a fine job. The airbrushing is what kills it. lvthunder 10-14-09, 02:31 PM A better photographer would of flattened out the their stomachs with softer light so they don't look so malnourished. jordy475 10-14-09, 05:11 PM I really do not like these pics at all...can't stand the hair and makeup...to be honest both of these ladies were MUCH better IMO on the show. I like me some Boomer!!! erkq 10-14-09, 05:26 PM I really do not like these pics at all...can't stand the hair and makeup...to be honest both of these ladies were MUCH better IMO on the show. I like me some Boomer!!! I agree. This is typical "men's magazine" air-brushed crap. They look like mannequins. Yuck. And, I really liked Boomer in the show. jordy475 10-14-09, 05:42 PM I agree. This is typical "men's magazine" air-brushed crap. They look like mannequins. Yuck. And, I really liked Boomer in the show. I hear ya, While I like maxim as a magazine most of the time, for the reason stated, I do not like the pics. Although... The Christina Aguilera Pics from Jan 2003..., don't get me started, I LOVED those!!!! Props to Maxim though two girls from my home town have posed for them!!! OK Sorry Back onto BSG Topic!!! Vortex3D 10-14-09, 06:44 PM I agree. This is typical "men's magazine" air-brushed crap. They look like mannequins. Yuck. And, I really liked Boomer in the show. The model photos in magazine are never natural. They are always Photoshopped to look better. The girls in real life never look anything like the photos in magazines which is a good thing. Who knows if Number Six and Eight did modeling for the magazine before Caprica was nuked? Caprica Six always looks like a model when Baltar met her. Sharon was a rookie pilot at the time and she could have done some modeling for the magazine. Caprica lifestyle was very similar to the new Earth thousands of years later. Just trying to put some connections to the BSG universe. shadowrage 10-14-09, 10:58 PM I think there's a spoiler in there somewhere. Neo_Reloaded 10-14-09, 11:02 PM Darknight, I came up with an intresting idea, since BSG:The Plan is the cylons version of what happened during the attack on the colonies, how about making an alternate version of the season 1 cover you made to include it. While the story is chronologically closest to Season 1, in terms of the narrative you are not supposed to view it until after the season finale. I have not seen The Plan yet, but presumably it would be a mistake to watch it during season 1. Darknight 10-15-09, 01:20 AM Darknight, I came up with an intresting idea, since BSG:The Plan is the cylons version of what happened during the attack on the colonies, how about making an alternate version of the season 1 cover you made to include it. Good idea. I'll keep that in mind when it comes out so I can try to incorporate it into one of the cases. I'll have to wait till it comes out to see where it would fit best after viewing it. Sorry my box has been full and I've been away. Been busy since I got back from vacation. I'm actually tweaking my covers right now cuz I still haven't printed out a final set for my covers yet. I'll get to deleting messages out of my box and responding to everyone who tried to send me a message while it was full. Rl3058 10-15-09, 01:58 AM Darknight, glad your back, BTW I found these on the covers you might want to correct them. The "J" in Jamie Bamber's name is missing on the "Razor" cover, also the catalog number on the spine of BSG season 1 & 2, shouldn't they be reversed or was this intentional? Season 1 = 2010178 Season 2 = 2010177 Season 3 = 2010179 Season 4 = 2010180 Darknight 10-16-09, 06:58 PM Darknight, glad your back, BTW I found these on the covers you might want to correct them. The "J" in Jamie Bamber's name is missing on the "Razor" cover, also the catalog number on the spine of BSG season 1 & 2, shouldn't they be reversed or was this intentional? Season 1 = 2010178 Season 2 = 2010177 Season 3 = 2010179 Season 4 = 2010180 Fixed the J on the Razor cover but haven't posted it yet. Thanks for that. The catalog numbers actually correspond to the cardboard covers that they were on to begin with so if it's a mistake, that's on them, not me. I'm just following their numbering. You can check for yourself at the bottom right of the back, right above the Subtitles listing. jordy475 10-18-09, 05:10 PM Review for "The Plan" on latino review, here's the link if anyone is interested... Note: Possible Spoilers for those not yet finished with the series. http://www.latinoreview.com/news/battlestar-galactica-the-plan-revealed-blu-ray-dvd-review-8277 Vortex3D 10-18-09, 08:44 PM Review for "The Plan" on latino review, here's the link if anyone is interested... Note: Possible Spoilers for those not yet finished with the series. http://www.latinoreview.com/news/battlestar-galactica-the-plan-revealed-blu-ray-dvd-review-8277 Doesn't look like the Face of the Enemy webisodes are included in The Plan bonus materials according to the review. Universal could be saving it for double-dipping later. stumlad 10-19-09, 08:21 AM Digital bits has a review up...... Vortex3D 10-19-09, 12:49 PM Digital bits has a review up...... http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/bdreviews101609.html lajaro 10-19-09, 04:48 PM http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/bdreviews101609.html Here are other reviews (some more favorable than others) http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/2009/10/review-battlestar-galactica-plan.html http://www.comingsoon.net/news/dvdreviewsnews.php?id=60136 http://www.hometheaterforum.com/products/battlestar-galactica-the-plan-blu-ray/reviews Personally, I can't wait to pick this up and then rewatch the entire series on BD which arrived at my doorstep today) :D TyrantII 10-20-09, 11:39 AM If you ask me they don't look that good. Don't get me wrong they are both attractive women, but I think the photographer did a bad job capturing it. Sorry to go off topic, but I think it's a botched photoshop edit. Just look at the weirdness of Parks' stomach on the cover photo and the weird skin tones. Maxium needs to stop giving that work to interns, heh. rolltide1017 10-20-09, 02:14 PM Is "The Plan" going to air on SyFy at some point or is it just a video release? rdgrimes 10-20-09, 04:20 PM Is "The Plan" going to air on SyFy at some point or is it just a video release? 2010, 1st quarter supposedly. Prolly around the time that Caprica series starts. seggers 10-27-09, 10:10 AM Best Buy has this at about 175 (with their 30% off stuff). I just ordered this from a co uk and ended up paying, including shipping, 174. No sales tax. I turned on something called currency converter and the price dropped from 114 to 99. Not sure why. I will be, however, watching my CC like a hawk to ensure I don't suddenly start having extra fees leveled...... Seggers Pugnax555 10-27-09, 11:51 AM Best Buy has this at about 175 (with their 30% off stuff). I just ordered this from a co uk and ended up paying, including shipping, 174. No sales tax. I turned on something called currency converter and the price dropped from 114 to 99. Not sure why. I will be, however, watching my CC like a hawk to ensure I don't suddenly start having extra fees leveled...... Seggers Depending on your card, don't be surprised if they charge an extra 1-5% "currency conversion fee". My cards are all 3%, and they seem to pick the highest exchange rate for the week that my charge went through. :mad: akaussie 10-27-09, 12:06 PM Best Buy has this at about 175 (with their 30% off stuff). I just ordered this from a co uk and ended up paying, including shipping, 174. No sales tax. I turned on something called currency converter and the price dropped from 114 to 99. Not sure why. I will be, however, watching my CC like a hawk to ensure I don't suddenly start having extra fees leveled...... Seggers I just received my set from amazon.co.uk yesterday. Everything looks good. Tin wasn't dented at all. I've just watched the first 30 minutes or so of the mini-series but I am liking what I'm seeing. Did a blind buy on the series, so am excited to get into it. I used amazon's currency converter and didn't see any random charges from the CC company, which was good. Regarding the price drop from 114 to 99 (in pounds, I'm assuming), this is because VAT (Value-Added Tax, aka sales tax) is not charged on the sale, which causes the price drop. Blood Pie 10-27-09, 01:58 PM I just picked up the Plan on BD and its killing me to have to wait till tonight to watch it with my wife. seggers 10-27-09, 02:12 PM I just received my set from amazon.co.uk yesterday. Everything looks good. Tin wasn't dented at all. I've just watched the first 30 minutes or so of the mini-series but I am liking what I'm seeing. Did a blind buy on the series, so am excited to get into it. I used amazon's currency converter and didn't see any random charges from the CC company, which was good. Regarding the price drop from 114 to 99 (in pounds, I'm assuming), this is because VAT (Value-Added Tax, aka sales tax) is not charged on the sale, which causes the price drop. Duurrr, having been born and raised in London, and with VAT, you would have thought I would have remembered that little gem.... Too long with Sales Tax Stateside.... Seggers Rl3058 10-27-09, 05:35 PM Darknight, I came up with an intresting idea, since BSG:The Plan is the cylons version of what happened during the attack on the colonies, how about making an alternate version of the season 1 cover you made to include it. Good idea. I'll keep that in mind when it comes out so I can try to incorporate it into one of the cases. I'll have to wait till it comes out to see where it would fit best after viewing it. Sorry my box has been full and I've been away. Been busy since I got back from vacation. I'm actually tweaking my covers right now cuz I still haven't printed out a final set for my covers yet. I'll get to deleting messages out of my box and responding to everyone who tried to send me a message while it was full. Darknight, It looks like it might belong in the season 2 case since "The Farm" is in that season and that episode is incorparated into "The Plan". Geoff D 10-27-09, 05:50 PM Just finished watching the complete series on Blu and I'm in a funk because this amazing show has come to an end. I've still got The Plan to watch, but it feels like there's a little gap in my soul right about now. The BD presentation is excellent, with decent sound and some of the cleanest, tightest HD video I've yet seen on disc. The intentionally grainy stuff is also beautiful in its own right. What a set, and what a show. Kevin M. Dean 10-27-09, 05:59 PM it feels like there's a little gap in my soul right about now. You can try tuning into "Caprica" in January. It's got a different feel, but seems to be exploring some of the same ideas, at least from what the pilot shows. mva5580 10-27-09, 06:33 PM Good to see that S1 is coming out individually on Blu-Ray; obviously that means the rest will follow at some point. I *really* want this entire series, but I just can't justify paying $200 all at once for movies. I'll find deals on the individual sets and span it out over time. Neo_Reloaded 10-27-09, 06:54 PM Darknight, I came up with an intresting idea, since BSG:The Plan is the cylons version of what happened during the attack on the colonies, how about making an alternate version of the season 1 cover you made to include it. Darknight, It looks like it might belong in the season 2 case since "The Farm" is in that season and that episode is incorparated into "The Plan". I honestly think The Plan should be either a stand-alone disc, or at least put at the end of Season 4.5. It's like an epilogue. You aren't supposed to view it where it "fits in" chronologically back in Season 2. It's meant to be viewed after the series finale. Razor is the first disc in Season 4.0 because that is where it is supposed to be from a story perspective. The fact that it chronologically happened in Season 2 has no relevance to when you should view it. Placing either film, Razor or The Plan, where they chronologically fit is akin to recutting the first two Godfather films so the order is half of the scenes from Godfather 2, Godfather 1, then the other half of the scenes from Godfather 2. Vortex3D 10-27-09, 10:09 PM Just finished watching the complete series on Blu and I'm in a funk because this amazing show has come to an end. I've still got The Plan to watch, but it feels like there's a little gap in my soul right about now. The BD presentation is excellent, with decent sound and some of the cleanest, tightest HD video I've yet seen on disc. The intentionally grainy stuff is also beautiful in its own right. What a set, and what a show. I'm for one glad BSG didn't keep running for seasons after seasons without any storyline like many popular TV series and eventually canceled because they sucked so bad in the end. That's the problem with TV shows. When a series is great, fans want more and the series producers keep making it. Eventually, both the fans and producers have to give up to end the series poorly. If you think about how BSG can continue for more seasons, what story would it tell? More drama about the Galactica fleet and Cylons killing each other. More not able to find another planet to live on or find another suitable planet to live but eventually have to leave again like the New Caprica. Eventually, the series would just keep repeating what it has done before. Vortex3D 10-27-09, 10:23 PM Good to see that S1 is coming out individually on Blu-Ray; obviously that means the rest will follow at some point. I *really* want this entire series, but I just can't justify paying $200 all at once for movies. I'll find deals on the individual sets and span it out over time. http://bluray.ign.com/articles/103/1039268p1.html Question is would Season 2 will be two half seasons set? Season 4 is because 4.5 is already out as half season set. Geoff D 10-28-09, 06:56 AM I'm for one glad BSG didn't keep running for seasons after seasons without any storyline like many popular TV series and eventually canceled because they sucked so bad in the end. That's the problem with TV shows. When a series is great, fans want more and the series producers keep making it. Eventually, both the fans and producers have to give up to end the series poorly. If you think about how BSG can continue for more seasons, what story would it tell? More drama about the Galactica fleet and Cylons killing each other. More not able to find another planet to live on or find another suitable planet to live but eventually have to leave again like the New Caprica. Eventually, the series would just keep repeating what it has done before. Well, yeah. I was lamenting the end of this great show, not pining for more. BSG had already started to wear pretty thin and I'm glad they stopped it when they did. When watched in succession, I lost count of the times the presidency changed hands, not to mention Adama having a drunken room-trashing session every other episode. Still, the crack about his model ship ("Do you know how many times I've had to repair this thing?") was a nice little nod from the writers. But in spite of the mounting flaws and the slightly clumsy ending I'll always love BSG.I love all the bits in Africa as they had me blubbing like a newborn, it's the Times Square sequence that seemed very heavy-handed. But when Jimi kicks in, all is forgiven. :D TyrantII 10-28-09, 12:34 PM But in spite of the mounting flaws and the slightly clumsy ending I'll always love BSG.I love all the bits in Africa as they had me blubbing like a newborn, it's the Times Square sequence that seemed very heavy-handed. But when Jimi kicks in, all is forgiven. :D I think the problem there was It was jarring, and took away from the real ending. Hera, pure and without sin, walking through the field should have been the final scene. They should have cut to the credits. And then the times square epilogue should have played after the credit roll, if at all. I understand why it was cut the way it was for TV, but I think it would have made better sense to recut it that way for the disks. Vortex3D 10-28-09, 12:39 PM I think the problem there was It was jarring, and took away from the real ending. Hera, pure and without sin, walking through the field should have been the final scene. They should have cut to the credits. And then the times square epilogue should have played after the credit roll, if at all. I understand why it was cut the way it was for TV, but I think it would have made better sense to recut it that way for the disks. According to Ron D. Moore commentary, last half of season 4 could have been different if wasn't of the writer's strike. He changed some of the story from the last half of the season after they resumed Season 4.5 filming. jordy475 10-28-09, 12:53 PM According to Ron D. Moore commentary, last half of season 4 could have been different if wasn't of the writer's strike. He changed some of the story from the last half of the season after they resumed Season 4.5 filming. Which episode is this bit of commentary on? Kinda curious to listen to it. Vortex3D 10-28-09, 01:01 PM Which episode is this bit of commentary on? Kinda curious to listen to it. I think it was in first or second episode of Season 4.5. The ending for some of the characters were also different if you listen to Ron's commentary for the series finale. seggers 11-05-09, 09:09 AM My set arrived last night, from the UK. Not too happy with the way it was packed, or the fact that our postie left it on the (wet) gorund. The tin was trouble free and seemed no worse for the trip. And my season 1 set is damn tight in the cardboard outer. Still, it'll look damn sweet on the shelf..... Seggers tonybsg 11-06-09, 10:20 AM Hello there! New to the forums, glad to be here. Huge BSG fan as well. Just wanted to congratulate and thank vicmackey187 for his great work on the BSG booklet. Much, much appreciated. I have printed it in a professional store (cost: 12Euros) so here is the result: http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4543.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4543.jpg) http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4544.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4544.jpg) http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4545.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4545.jpg) http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4546.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4546.jpg) http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4547.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4547.jpg) http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4548.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4548.jpg) http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4549.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4549.jpg) http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/th_DSCN4550.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/albums/gg362/tonypapadovic/DVD%20Collection/TV%20Related/Battlestar%20Galactica/The%20Complete%20Collection/Booklet/?action=view¤t=DSCN4550.jpg) vicmackey187 11-06-09, 07:09 PM Ooooh, looks real nice. Did they cut and staple it for you? How's the image contrast on the pages? tonybsg 11-09-09, 04:10 AM Yes they did everything. I just gave them the pdf files, told them to use illustrated paper and thats it. The image contrast I think it's very nice, didn't notice anything in any page man. fjames 11-28-09, 06:27 AM Sorry to bump this up, but I feel the need to thank the BD Galactica community here for bringing this show to my attention. I'm OTA only and literally never heard of it. I thought people were talking about the original (which I hated, sorry) until I figured it out. Anyhow, I just finished the last episode of season 3 and I have to say it's simply one of the greats. Up there with anything television has done. So, thanks again :) Rod#S 12-01-09, 09:11 AM Does anyone know what's up with the availability of this set in Canada? I have been checking Futureshop, BestBuy, Amazon.ca and Walmart for like 2 months and it never comes into stock. The DVD box set is available but never the BluRay set. This was available when it was first released from all of those retailers. I'm wondering if some retailer managed to get exclusive rights to sell it leaving the big names empty handed. Thanks erkq 12-01-09, 10:21 AM Does anyone know what's up with the availability of this set in Canada? I have been checking Futureshop, BestBuy, Amazon.ca and Walmart for like 2 months and it never comes into stock. The DVD box set is available but never the BluRay set. This was available when it was first released from all of those retailers. I'm wondering if some retailer managed to get exclusive rights to sell it leaving the big names empty handed. Thanks Why not buy from Amazon.com? Or, even Amazon.co.uk? Or, some other on-line retailer that has it? geekyglassesgirl 12-01-09, 10:43 AM Does anyone know what's up with the availability of this set in Canada? I have been checking Futureshop, BestBuy, Amazon.ca and Walmart for like 2 months and it never comes into stock. The DVD box set is available but never the BluRay set. This was available when it was first released from all of those retailers. I'm wondering if some retailer managed to get exclusive rights to sell it leaving the big names empty handed. Thanks The walmart up here only ever had 1 or 2 sets in of the Blu and about 6 of the DVD, and they haven't replenished them either. Maybe due to the cost and size of it, they don't want it sitting on the shelf up here. You might be better off checking something like HMV or mom-and-pop type shops in your area; it may be more expensive than the sites you listed but possibly less expensive then importing it from US or UK. Rod#S 12-01-09, 12:55 PM Why not buy from Amazon.com? Or, even Amazon.co.uk? Or, some other on-line retailer that has it? A couple years ago I would have done just that but Amazon.com has since changed their policy and ding us Canadians with every tax, duty, tariff, etc. known to man now so it ends up costing way to much. Rod#S 12-01-09, 01:01 PM The walmart up here only ever had 1 or 2 sets in of the Blu and about 6 of the DVD, and they haven't replenished them either. Maybe due to the cost and size of it, they don't want it sitting on the shelf up here. You might be better off checking something like HMV or mom-and-pop type shops in your area; it may be more expensive than the sites you listed but possibly less expensive then importing it from US or UK. Now that you mention HMV, I do recall seeing it on their site after it disappeared from the others but it was being sold for full list, something like $360-$400 and not the $260ish it was originally being sold for so I wasn't about to pay $100 more for it at HMV :) This same thing seemed to occur with the Batpod version of the Dark Knight, that disappeared for a long time from Amazon but did come back months later. geekyglassesgirl 12-01-09, 01:27 PM Now that you mention HMV, I do recall seeing it on their site after it disappeared from the others but it was being sold for full list, something like $360-$400 and not the $260ish it was originally being sold for so I wasn't about to pay $100 more for it at HMV :) This same thing seemed to occur with the Batpod version of the Dark Knight, that disappeared for a long time from Amazon but did come back months later. Where I live the only two places I can buy blu's locally is the WalMart and there is a music store that also sells some... I guess I'm lucky my husband decided to surprise me with this set, if it has vanished! I don't blame you for not wanting to spend $100 more on it. I *think* my set was somewhere between $239 to $269 at Walmart. Sometimes the prices are a bit higher up here than in the rest of the country b/c we're in the arctic. The shipping from amazon.com kills any deals I might want to get from there, along w/ the exchange/tariffs/duty etc. I hope you are able to find a copy of the set soon! :) erkq 12-01-09, 01:29 PM A couple years ago I would have done just that but Amazon.com has since changed their policy and ding us Canadians with every tax, duty, tariff, etc. known to man now so it ends up costing way to much. Crumb. Sorry. rdgrimes 12-01-09, 02:18 PM Does anyone know what's up with the availability of this set in Canada? I have been checking Futureshop, BestBuy, Amazon.ca and Walmart for like 2 months and it never comes into stock. The DVD box set is available but never the BluRay set. This was available when it was first released from all of those retailers. I'm wondering if some retailer managed to get exclusive rights to sell it leaving the big names empty handed. Thanks More than a few in CA have bought the UK set. Even with shipping it's a lot less and a superior package to boot. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battlestar-Galactica-Complete-Limited-Blu-ray/dp/B0027UY8B8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1259695108&sr=8-1 yoricksdeath 12-22-09, 12:59 AM Not sure if this has been answered but is there a version of the covers that is for the Vortex/Blade Runner 5 disc cases? I wasn't able to get the slim version in the group buy. Vortex3D 12-22-09, 03:23 AM Not sure if this has been answered but is there a version of the covers that is for the Vortex/Blade Runner 5 disc cases? I wasn't able to get the slim version in the group buy. Is that the thicker 5-disc case that originally came out? I have that version. Deviation 12-22-09, 09:25 AM Not sure if this has been answered but is there a version of the covers that is for the Vortex/Blade Runner 5 disc cases? I wasn't able to get the slim version in the group buy. The Blade Runner case is an Elite case. The Vortex cases are the ones used by seasons 3-5 of Lost. Dave Mack 12-22-09, 10:31 AM More than a few in CA have bought the UK set. Even with shipping it's a lot less and a superior package to boot. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battlestar-Galactica-Complete-Limited-Blu-ray/dp/B0027UY8B8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1259695108&sr=8-1 SOOOOOOOO close to pulling the trigger here this am. Does amazon UK ever do a "gold box"...? A better price than the US for sure though. yoricksdeath 12-22-09, 12:27 PM The Blade Runner case is an Elite case. The Vortex cases are the ones used by seasons 3-5 of Lost. Ok, sorry that's what I mean then. The ones used for Lost, they are the only cases I can find but my understanding is the spine is larger. Did anyone make covers to fit those cases? TyrantII 12-23-09, 10:51 AM SOOOOOOOO close to pulling the trigger here this am. Does amazon UK ever do a "gold box"...? A better price than the US for sure though. It wasn't a gold box, but they had it a few weeks back on sale for $140 USD. Dave Mack 12-23-09, 11:46 AM It wasn't a gold box, but they had it a few weeks back on sale for $140 USD. thanks. That's a bit cheaper. I think I'll just check it periodically. :) Morpheo 12-23-09, 01:45 PM A couple years ago I would have done just that but Amazon.com has since changed their policy and ding us Canadians with every tax, duty, tariff, etc. known to man now so it ends up costing way to much. I regularly order from amazon US and I haven't noticed much difference. Maybe I should be more careful though!;) But I guess that won't stop me from ordering directly from amazon US. ...Back to BSG, I wanted to buy it a few weeks ago, it was nowhere to be found. I went to one of the few Metro Video stores in the MTL area, the cute girl checked, and told me the Blu-ray version was discontinued:confused: I bought several other films since then and didn't bother to look online but if it's still available, then I wonder why it shows as discontinued in Canuckistan. anyways... Deviation 12-23-09, 02:30 PM I regularly order from amazon US and I haven't noticed much difference. Maybe I should be more careful though!;) But I guess that won't stop me from ordering directly from amazon US. ...Back to BSG, I wanted to buy it a few weeks ago, it was nowhere to be found. I went to one of the few Metro Video stores in the MTL area, the cute girl checked, and told me the Blu-ray version was discontinued:confused: I bought several other films since then and didn't bother to look online but if it's still available, then I wonder why it shows as discontinued in Canuckistan. anyways... IIRC, the complete series set was always going to be a "limited edition". The first season will be released in the US in January as a standalone set and seasons two through four will follow. Though I imagine season four will only be available as separate 4.0 and 4.5 releases since 4.5 is already out on Blu. Beta Tester 12-27-09, 05:25 AM The shipping from amazon.com kills any deals I might want to get from there, along w/ the exchange/tariffs/duty etc. I hope you are able to find a copy of the set soon! :) I haven't order anything from amazon.com precisely for those reasons. $5 handling per order, $3 shipping per disc, brokerage/duty/GST (used to be GST free), currency premium by the credit card company, and exchange rate. It now usually ends up being more expensive than just buying on-line from Canada. Paulidan 12-27-09, 02:27 PM Sorry to bump this up, but I feel the need to thank the BD Galactica community here for bringing this show to my attention. I'm OTA only and literally never heard of it. I thought people were talking about the original (which I hated, sorry) until I figured it out. Anyhow, I just finished the last episode of season 3 and I have to say it's simply one of the greats. Up there with anything television has done. So, thanks again :) I'll be curious to hear what you think after you see the final episode. I never saw the show when it was broadcast and had to wait for the DVD releases to watch it. I had only seen up to the end of the first half of the last season when the Complete series set was released. The show - till that point- had been such an amazing ride, the thought of buying the entire series was an absolute no brainer. As soon as I got it, I burned through the final episodes. The sense of closure was nice, but I have a lot of problems with how this series was wrapped up and that has affected how I view the show in general now. it will be a while before I feel compelled to go back and watch the seasons over again. :( thirdkind 12-27-09, 02:45 PM The sense of closure was nice, but I have a lot of problems with how this series was wrapped up and that has affected how I view the show in general now. it will be a while before I feel compelled to go back and watch the seasons over again. I think the conclusion is on par with the rest of the series. Aside from one minor gripe, the finale just about knocked me out of my chair. |