After the poor packaging design for Season 1 on HD DVD and amount of complains, you would think Universal have learned not to do fancy and impractical packaging like the Complete Series Limited Edition.

While Universal is generous to replace Complete Series with Re-issued packaging for free, hopefully Universal has learned not to make impractical packaging for other TV shows. Somehow I think Universal is going to do it again.

Anyone is planning to buy the Complete Series Limited Edition, Re-issued or individual season, Universal has $5 coupon by linking with Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/universalstudiosentertainment?v=app_10442206389&ref=ts

Got my new packaging in the mail yesterday from FedEx (missed the first delivery attempt and they wouldn't leave it without a signature). It's great. I feel much better with the discs in hubs than just in a folded cardboard sleeve. It's also nice having actual disc content listings. I ended up using the case for The Plan from when I bought it since the slipcase with the foil finish fits with the rest of the packaging much better than just the basic Blu case. Best part of all: it fits on my DVD rack.

Not sure what I'm going to do with the old packaging, though. Since the front flap of the Season 1 box is now gone, I wouldn't try to sell it to someone. My innate "collectorness" makes it very difficult to just throw it out, too.

Got my new packaging in the mail yesterday from FedEx (missed the first delivery attempt and they wouldn't leave it without a signature). It's great. I feel much better with the discs in hubs than just in a folded cardboard sleeve. It's also nice having actual disc content listings. I ended up using the case for The Plan from when I bought it since the slipcase with the foil finish fits with the rest of the packaging much better than just the basic Blu case. Best part of all: it fits on my DVD rack.

Not sure what I'm going to do with the old packaging, though. Since the front flap of the Season 1 box is now gone, I wouldn't try to sell it to someone. My innate "collectorness" makes it very difficult to just throw it out, too.

If you want to reprint the Season 1 front flap:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18371498#post18371498

Amazon (Canada) has increased its price for the new boxset to CDN $199.99. The bargain now seems to be the old boxset for $149.99 from U.S. Amazon, supplemented with The Plan and the replacement packaging from Universal.

I got my replacement box set today! So it took approximately 2 weeks!!! I missed my FedEx twice....guess I need too look at my front door more often.

I got my replacement yesterday. It is an improvement, but I will not use the case, as I don't want/plan to buy "The Plan". FedEx was lousy... I had to drive 35 miles to pick it up.

Fedex is pathetic. They missed us three times. Then they promised this morning to deliver between 9 and 12. They never showed up.

Now I have to drive across town to pick up the package because a signature is required (for an empty box:p). What a lousy service!

Now I have to drive across town to pick up the package because a signature is required (for an empty box:p). What a lousy service!

But it's not an empty box. Doesn't it have another box inside? :D

Fedex is pathetic. They missed us three times. Then they promised this morning to deliver between 9 and 12. They never showed up.

Now I have to drive across town to pick up the package because a signature is required (for an empty box:p). What a lousy service!

You could have signed the FedEx attempt deliver slip and have them leave the "empty" box at your door.

But it's not an empty box. Doesn't it have another box inside? :D

The package contains an empty box.;)

You could have signed the FedEx attempt deliver slip and have them leave the "empty" box at your door.

They wouldn't leave it. They said they had to have an adult sign in person.

Fedex is pathetic. They missed us three times. Then they promised this morning to deliver between 9 and 12. They never showed up.

Now I have to drive across town to pick up the package because a signature is required (for an empty box:p). What a lousy service!

Oh you younguns! Back in MY day, we had to WALK across town in 3 feet of snow to get our danged empty Galactica box....



;)

Well, in my day, we had to walk backwards, in barefeet, over hot coals and then over 4 miles of ice flow to get our empties.

So say we all!

Folks:
Just wanted to say thanks to Universal for the new cases. Don't know what they were thinking with the original cube case but I sincerely appreciate the no hassle replacement cases that arrived in very short order.

It seems if you buy the re-issued Complete Series as retail set, The Plan doesn't include the slip-on cover that makes the disc case the same look as the series.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B0036EH3U2/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_1?ie=UTF8&index=1

I bought the hd-dvd box set for 10 bucks....happy with it for now.

I bought the hd-dvd box set for 10 bucks....happy with it for now.

Isn't that just the first season, and the miniseries? The BD box contains that, three more seasons (of twenty episodes each) and two "movies."

Isn't that just the first season, and the miniseries? The BD box contains that, three more seasons (of twenty episodes each) and two "movies."

Blu-ray edition Season 1 is the same as HD DVD Season 1 except the miniseries is on one disc. The re-issued Complete Series includes Season 1-4, Razor and The Plan. Both Razor and The Plan are considered "movies".

Blu-ray edition Season 1 is the same as HD DVD Season 1 except the miniseries is on one disc. The re-issued Complete Series includes Season 1-4, Razor and The Plan. Both Razor and The Plan are considered "movies".

Exactly. That is why I wondered if t-base was "happy for now" with the HD-DVD boxset, given how little of the series it contained.

Got an email from Universal:
BSG Replacement packaging offer ends 5/31/2010

Anyone still wants to buy the Limited Edition on clearance for less than the re-issued edition, time to get it if you want the replacement cases.

I'm assuming that nobody else in Canada has heard anything from Universal Canada about this offer? Now that there's the ending date in the US, I need to decide whether I just order it in the US, knowing I won't get it for 6 months when I next visit, or hold out hope here...

I'm assuming that nobody else in Canada has heard anything from Universal Canada about this offer?

I sent an email about two weeks ago to universalcanadahomevideo@nbcuni.com and got this reply:

Thank you for contacting us.

Due to the high volume of requests for this replacement, we now require the following information be sent to us:

To receive new packaging, please remove the top and triangular flap of the Season One case included in your complete series set and send it to us, along with the following information and a copy of this correspondence:

Your name:

Street address or P.O. Box:

City:

Province:

Postal Code:

Format: BLU-RAY __________ DVD ____________


Send to:

Universal Studios Consumer Relations
2450 Victoria Park Avenue
Willowdale , Ontario
M2J 4A2


Please allow 2 - 4 weeks to receive the new packaging.

We hope that you will continue to enjoy "Battlestar Galactica" and future Universal releases.


Sincerely,

Consumer Relations
UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME ENTERTAINMENT

I promptly sent in the required material and have yet to receive the replacement packaging (but it has been only two weeks).

I finally received my replacement packaging today after e-mailing them requesting it March 22! So it looks like the Canadian backlog is starting to clear.

For anyone interested it shipped Purolator air from Ontario and needs to be signed for when delivered or they'll leave a door knocker.

Hope everyone else's packaging shows up this week too!

I got the new packaging today, too, from Universal Canada. Just a two week wait for me, but I had to mutilate the original first season box whereas you guys who contacted them earlier didn't have to (not complaining, just being factual). I wasn't home at the time to receive it, but lucky someone else was. Everything looked okay, although the edges of the new big box was scuffed here and there (again, not complaining--it's free, after all).


Here's an OT question for you guys in TO. The email from Universal Canada says that 2450 Victoria Park Avenue is in Willowdale, the return address on the box says that it's in Toronto, and the courier sticker on the box says that it's in North York. What's up with that?

Thanks for your reply! I plan on printing out the one that had been posted here as well.

And... that was quick! Within an hour of emailing the Canadian address, I received this:



:)

Posted on March 23... and the package arrived just now from Universal. They sent it via Purolator.

I got the new packaging today, too, from Universal Canada. Just a two week wait for me, but I had to mutilate the original first season box whereas you guys who contacted them earlier didn't have to (not complaining, just being factual). I wasn't home at the time to receive it, but lucky someone else was. Everything looked okay, although the edges of the new big box was scuffed here and there (again, not complaining--it's free, after all).


Here's an OT question for you guys in TO. The email from Universal Canada says that 2450 Victoria Park Avenue is in Willowdale, the return address on the box says that it's in Toronto, and the courier sticker on the box says that it's in North York. What's up with that?

The bolded - exactly the same here.

My new packaging arrived today (from Universal Canada) and thankfully, I ordered it before they had the requirement of sending in the flap so both of my packages are fully intact :) Thank you Universal!!

Eric

Can someone clear this up for me? I thought I'd heard the new repackaging was supposed to include the extended version of "The Plan". Did this turn out to be the case?

Can someone clear this up for me? I thought I'd heard the new repackaging was supposed to include the extended version of "The Plan". Did this turn out to be the case?

Yes. The Plan included is the same as the retail version.

Yes. The Plan included is the same as the retail version.Thank you. I was under the impression that the current retail version was the shorter tv version. Turns out I was wrong. :)

Guys, don't hate me, but I cannot find the relevant post with the right email to contact the AMERICAN (USA) version of Universal. Can someone please give me a direct link? Os the proper email? I know I have the remove the flap and send it in, but I am not sure where to, if they need a copy of an email they sent me, etc.

I am browsing with my blackberry, on my back, with a serious back injury and don't want to miss out on the new packaging.

Much thanks.

Guys, don't hate me, but I cannot find the relevant post with the right email to contact the AMERICAN (USA) version of Universal. Can someone please give me a direct link? Os the proper email? I know I have the remove the flap and send it in, but I am not sure where to, if they need a copy of an email they sent me, etc.

I am browsing with my blackberry, on my back, with a serious back injury and don't want to miss out on the new packaging.

Much thanks.

Here it is. First send Universal a message:
http://www.universalstudios.com/contact_form.php?email_id=10

They should reply with this email for you to mail in the Season 1 front Centurian flap.

Dear "Battlestar Galactica (2004): The Complete Series" Owner,

We are happy to announce that new packaging is available for your "Battlestar Galactica (2004): The Complete Series" set. The new packaging is comprised of conventional cases regularly used to store DVD or Blu-ray discs. Please note that we support consumers with U.S. mailing addresses only.

To receive new packaging, please remove the top and triangular flap of the Season One case included in your complete series set and send it to us, along with the following information and a copy of this correspondence:

Your name:

Street address or P.O. Box:

City:

State:

Zip


Format: BLU-RAY __________ DVD ____________

Send to:

Universal Studios Home Entertainment
c/o Deluxe Media Management
P. O. Box 801464
Valencia, CA 91380 - 1464

Please allow 4 to 6 weeks to receive the new packaging.

We hope that you will continue to enjoy "Battlestar Galactica" and future Universal releases.

Sincerely,

Consumer Relations
UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME ENTERTAINMENT

Anyone still have DK's nice custom art packages? I PM'd him, but figured I would ask here.

I have the 21mm (Vernon) cases and would really like to print them out.

Thanks,
Ed

Anyone still have DK's nice custom art packages? I PM'd him, but figured I would ask here.

I have the 21mm (Vernon) cases and would really like to print them out.

Thanks,
Ed

I downloaded several of the custom art inserts. Not sure which one you are looking for. Is it one of these? I downloaded for each of the seasons if that's what you want.

Hey.

Unfortunately, no, it's not one of those. They're the ones located here that I'm truly interested in:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18176479#post18176479

I appreciate the response!

Ed

I have them on my work computer. If no one's gotten them to you by Monday, PM me an email address and I'll send them to you.

Thanks Brandon! I'll let you know

I'm looking for the same BSG 21mm case inserts. If someone could help me out Id sure appreciate it! :)

PM me your email and I'll get them to you as well.

Hi guys,

I've got an issue with my picture and I'm not sure if it's the transfer or if it's my equipment. We all know that Battlestar Galactica has a certain level of grain present. However what I've found is that once I've set up my blu-ray player to 1080p, there is a white-ish distortion that covers the image, it's intermittent but it looks like a shimmering, white noise that is added to the existing grain.

It's hard for me to describe. But if I change from 1080p to 1080i or 720p, then the white distortion/sparkles go away. The funny thing is that I don't think I've seen this image artifact on other films. I just think it's weird that setting the resolution to 1080p causes these problems.

Has anyone else experienced this before with this boxset ? Is there anything I can do ? Thanks.

The BDs didn't look anything like that when I watched them. Is your display native 1080p, 1080i, or 720p? Are you using HDMI, component, DVI, etc. Though, I'm not sure I've ever seen your specific problem, I can hypothesize a number of different possibilities. The more info you can provide about your setup, the better people can help you figure it out.

Does it look like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFHbMGmu43w

It could also have something to do with your avr as well. I know as soon as mine starts getting warm, the sparkles appear.

I'm running an Optoma HD20 using HDMI directly to the blu-ray player. If I disable 1080p and choose any other resolution then the white noise/sparkles disappear but when things are moving, you can see these tiny white specs on the screen which, when combined with the grain in the show, looks absolutely terrible.

Mrkazador, unfortunately the issue I am experiencing is not shown in that video you linked to. It's like a second wave of grain has been added to the screen but its different; you can tell that something is wrong. It's very heavy white grain and is intermittent.

I think I should upload a video to show you guys what I'm referring to.

I'm running an Optoma HD20 using HDMI directly to the blu-ray player. If I disable 1080p and choose any other resolution then the white noise/sparkles disappear but when things are moving, you can see these tiny white specs on the screen which, when combined with the grain in the show, looks absolutely terrible.


OK, so that would rule out the AVR not supporting 1080p, as well as the display. The HDMI connection would also rule out copy protection. It sounds like there might be some type of interference or degradation somewhere, so I think the next logical thing to rule out would be the connection/cabling. If the HDMI cable is in the wall, under the floor or in the attic, you should probably make sure the HDMI cable is not running parallel with any electrical lines. You usually only hear of that being a cause of interference with analog runs, like speaker wire - at least I've never actually heard it being a problem with digital video cabling, but I don't see why it wouldn't either, so it's something to avoid. It could be the length of cable that's the culprit, considering it's an FP setup. Older and new, but cheaper HDMI cables may also not be designed to handle 1080p resolutions, especially with longer runs.

If it's not the cable or a loose connection, I'd then call Optoma to see if they have any suggestions, assuming the troubleshooting guide in the user manual doesn't cover it. Good luck.

Quite a few posts on the UK AVForums about a flicker on 1080p, and 720p correcting it. I don't think that anyone ever solved the problem. It was decided that it is actually part of the Blu Ray image. It stopped me from buying the set in the end.

Quite a few posts on the UK AVForums about a flicker on 1080p, and 720p correcting it. I don't think that anyone ever solved the problem. It was decided that it is actually part of the Blu Ray image. It stopped me from buying the set in the end.


That doesn't sound like the same problem the OP is having. It sounds more like a display issue. I've seen consumer 1080p displays that will flicker, which becomes even more pronounced in vivid or torch mode, which I suspect was related to the panel not being able to fully resolve the upper frequency info, as moire was often evident as well. It could be there was some unnecessary signal processing going on too, even though it shouldn't be with a 24p display and signal - no upsampling was involved.

That doesn't sound like the same problem the OP is having. It sounds more like a display issue. I've seen consumer 1080p displays that will flicker, which becomes even more pronounced in vivid or torch mode, which I suspect was related to the panel not being able to fully resolve the upper frequency info, as moire was often evident as well. It could be there was some unnecessary signal processing going on too, even though it shouldn't be with a 24p display and signal - no upsampling was involved.

Well it certainly has a lot of uncanny similarities. The same Box Set, the same 720p fix, just reworded from flicker to sparkle.

Well it certainly has a lot of uncanny similarities. The same Box Set, the same 720p fix, just reworded from flicker to sparkle.

Maybe, but the description of it looking like a heavy layer of white grain sounds far more objectionabl than any geniune "flicker" I've seen that wasn't related to some catastrophic failure. Downsampling to 720p can skirt a lot of things including poor setup and component design faults. Regardless, setting 1080p components to 720p is at best a bandaid, not a proper cure.

Maybe, but the description of it looking like a heavy layer of white grain sounds far more objectionabl than any geniune "flicker" I've seen that wasn't related to some catastrophic failure. Downsampling to 720p can skirt a lot of things including poor setup and component design faults. Regardless, setting 1080p components to 720p is at best a bandaid, not a proper cure.

The guy on AVForums also described the flicker as a brighter grain change, then posted some consecutive screen shots of the grain change. I couldn't actually see the change visually in those shots. I suppose you can only see it in runtime.

The issue I am experiencing is a flicker but there is also a level of grain or interference mixed in that changes every few seconds. It looks like white noise added in. So in any scenes in space, it's especially noticeable. If I change to 720p, the issue is gone.

I'll try changing HDMI cables. The thing is, there is a big difference in sharpness going from 720p to 1080p and I never expected this to be the case. The only thing is that the white noise/sparkles/interference is messing up the picture so much so that it's practically unwatchable.

It's one thing to experience the grain that this box set has. But to have the extra interference added on top ruins it. Hopefully tonight I'll be able to take some pics of the issues. I really, really, REALLY hope that it isn't the box set that I have, since I imported mine and it cost me an arm and a leg. :)

goneten, do you see the artefact when watching anything shot outdoors? I'm one of the unfortunate souls at the AV Forums who're seeing the infamous BSG 'flicker', but it only seems to occur with anything studio-bound.

Is this show worth a blind buy? I generally enjoy sci-fi stuff.

Yes, but the series is more drama based, and less sci-fi.

Yes, but the series is more drama based, and less sci-fi.

True, but it does have well developed sci-fi elements.

My g'friend doesn't like sci-fi. I got her to try it. She was hooked on the first episode. We had to limit ourselves to 3 episodes a night. Neighbors who watched with us (wife doesn't like sci-fi either) said they'd watch straight through to morning if they could.

Now that we're done she find herself impatient with the quality of other TV shows. Guess what? We're starting from the beginning again. This'll be my 6th time through it. Needless to say we both think it's phenomenal and bears re-watching.

True, but it does have well developed sci-fi elements.

My g'friend doesn't like sci-fi. I got her to try it. She was hooked on the first episode. We had to limit ourselves to 3 episodes a night. Neighbors who watched with us (wife doesn't like sci-fi either) said they'd watch straight through to morning if they could.

Now that we're done she find herself impatient with the quality of other TV shows. Guess what? We're starting from the beginning again. This'll be my 6th time through it. Needless to say we both think it's phenomenal and bears re-watching.

True. What I meant was that there is really very little focus on anything with futuristic technology, like most sci-fi. If anything, except for the Cylons or the spacecraft, the show could be set today ( I guess that is what the creators, of course, had in mind). Just wanted to let a newbe know, that this isn't your Dad's scifi show.

True. What I meant was that there is really very little focus on anything with futuristic technology, like most sci-fi.

Yeah... my g'friend couldn't believe even the dated CLOTHES they wear. I can't believe she was critiquing their wardrobe of all things. Jeez... women... But she did really love the series.

Yes, but the series is more drama based, and less sci-fi.

The reimagined series aren't like the old series where there were often weekly random battles with Cylons. The new series have less battle but when there are battles, they are incredible and have good story that leaded to the battle. Wait until the opening of Season 3 and you will be blown away. The good story writing and drama were the reason the new series was so good.

I grew up and enjoyed the old/original series but most episodes were just another weekly adventure that never really went any where.

goneten, do you see the artefact when watching anything shot outdoors? I'm one of the unfortunate souls at the AV Forums who're seeing the infamous BSG 'flicker', but it only seems to occur with anything studio-bound.

Yes ! Mostly in studio or in 'space'. I haven't seen it in outdoor areas. BTW, these issues I'm experiencing are based on watching snippets of Day Break part 1 and 2. I'm not sure if it will be the same for all seasons.

The issue I am experiencing is a flicker but there is also a level of grain or interference mixed in that changes every few seconds. It looks like white noise added in. So in any scenes in space, it's especially noticeable. If I change to 720p, the issue is gone.

I'll try changing HDMI cables. The thing is, there is a big difference in sharpness going from 720p to 1080p and I never expected this to be the case. The only thing is that the white noise/sparkles/interference is messing up the picture so much so that it's practically unwatchable.

It's one thing to experience the grain that this box set has. But to have the extra interference added on top ruins it. Hopefully tonight I'll be able to take some pics of the issues. I really, really, REALLY hope that it isn't the box set that I have, since I imported mine and it cost me an arm and a leg. :)

If the cable isn't spec'd to full 1080p, it should show up on other 1080p BDs as well, but may not with DVD, 720p, or 1080i material. If you have any, try some other BDs before buying a new cable. If it's interference or degradation related to cable length or electrical wiring, temporarily moving the player closer to the PJ and hooking it up with a shorter length, should tell you what you need to know.

With large front projection the difference between full 1080p with BD and 720p is substantial for sure. However, many components don't convert 1080p to 720p optimally, resulting in an image that is essentially 540p. Such is so deleterious to the signal it can mask even more severe video issues, but with an even steeper price to resolution than more efficient downsampling to 720p.

I own the domestic release of BSG and can safely rule out your problem being the discs with those. And I've seen similar issues to what you describe that were always component related, never source related as they were initially assumed by some. That said, hearing about others problems with the UK release, I'm having doubts. If the issue is unique to this set, maybe it's somehow related to the European PAL standard, which I don't really know enough about to speculate. As the domestic BDs were all 24p rather than 60p, PAL shouldn't have anything to do with it. But that's not to say that the international discs weren't somehow botched or used an inferior source. I've imported over a dozen BDs from the UK and haven't experienced any similar problems myself, but they were all 24p film encoded and presumably sourced.

The UK discs are literally the exact same platters as the North American BD's.

I tried changing HDMI inputs and I think the interference has gone. I'm using a 2m QED 1080p cable. Wow....QED, but no really, it's cheap, and according to the box it's full 1080p HDMI 1.3. I'm also not using HDMI switching. So far I've just done quick tests connecting the projector to the blu-ray player (Panasonic BD35 -- does support 24p ).

I'll test again tonight to make sure my eyes weren't deceiving me. I'm borrowing the Optoma HD20 from work so I've only been able to watch snippets of the show but I can't imagine watching this show on a 42" of 50" Full HD set. I blew the image up to around 2.4m on a plain white wall and the image detail and sharpness was unbelievable. I can only imagine how much better the image will look on a proper screen.

I watched the entire series on my PC and the episodes themselves were highly compressed 350mb each. So yeah, you kind of expect to be mind blown but it's the tiny details that really impresses. I think if I'm going to watch this show I have to watch it on a projector. I've got a Studio 100 v5 set up so that helps as well for the immersion factor. :D

Sorry for taking so long, my life has been put on hold. I tried a number of episodes, and the interference (looks like a layer of white grain...that flashes...). In some episodes it's absolutely terrible. Others, not so bad.

But if I select 720p on the blu-ray player the issue goes away, problem is, the picture loses a lot of it's sharpness as a result. I have not seen any issues on other blu-ray disks, so I'm worried now that my blu-ray boxset has a bum transfer.

I can't imagine how that could be the case but I don't know what else to try. I've tried changing cables and changing inputs, yesterday in fact, with no improvement or change. I can't imagine that my blu-ray player has an issue specific to Battlestar Galactica but not to any other disks. I mean, I have no idea, but I suspect that my box set might be to blame.

I know some people have experienced a flashing pulse of light...as the scene progresses, I get this very dim flash even when I'm not experiencing the white noise/grain. It's not bad at all, but I've noticed it now on a few episodes.

Sorry for taking so long, my life has been put on hold. I tried a number of episodes, and the interference (looks like a layer of white grain...that flashes...). In some episodes it's absolutely terrible. Others, not so bad.

But if I select 720p on the blu-ray player the issue goes away, problem is, the picture loses a lot of it's sharpness as a result. I have not seen any issues on other blu-ray disks, so I'm worried now that my blu-ray boxset has a bum transfer.

I can't imagine how that could be the case but I don't know what else to try. I've tried changing cables and changing inputs, yesterday in fact, with no improvement or change. I can't imagine that my blu-ray player has an issue specific to Battlestar Galactica but not to any other disks. I mean, I have no idea, but I suspect that my box set might be to blame.

I know some people have experienced a flashing pulse of light...as the scene progresses, I get this very dim flash even when I'm not experiencing the white noise/grain. It's not bad at all, but I've noticed it now on a few episodes.


It wouldn't be a bad "transfer". All sets have identical transfers. A couple possibilities:
- Sharpness setting on your tv could be too high (probably not the case if you don't notice this on any other discs)

- player compatibility with the discs. I use to have an older player (~1 year) and started to have problems playing some Universal titles. It first started happening with BSG. A firmware update helped a lot.

- A bad connection somewhere between the player and the TV?

If the discs are bad, they should simply not work. You would get jittering, freezing or unreadable errors. If you can, try and test one of the troublesome episodes in another player. That would be the best way to isolate the problem.

EDIT: Also, keep in mind that there is intentional film grain with BSG. Some scenes it's more noticeable than others. Some people find it distracting, but it shouldn't be at the level you seem to be experiencing. The grain would be more apparent at 1080p than at 720p.

EDIT: Also, keep in mind that there is intentional film grain with BSG. Some scenes it's more noticeable than others. Some people find it distracting, but it shouldn't be at the level you seem to be experiencing. The grain would be more apparent at 1080p than at 720p.

I know about the intentional grain. But at times the entire image is covered by white grain which is accompanied by a flash of light; this flashing of light varies but it changes depending on the scene. Heck, in one or two sequences (season 3, the boxing match), the grain was so bad, you almost couldn't see a thing ! I'm not talking about the film grain. I'm talking about something entirely different.

goneten, I still think you're seeing something related to the 'flicker' that I and others have seen, only something in your chain is making it much worse.

It's actually encoded into the video, too. If I take it through frame by frame on a shot that's flickering, 1 frame out of each 24 is significantly brighter than the rest.

Oh, it only appears from S3 onwards. You should not be getting this artefact on anything before that.

So any word when the Season 4 blu-ray will be released in the US?

Hello. I'm not here to ruffle anyone's feathers, but I'm having doubts about whether I should continue the series or not. I've seen the mini-series as well as the first five episodes and even though I can see potential in the series, I am not at all warming up to any of the characters or the overly depressing atmosphere. Is what I've seen indicative of the pace and tempo of the rest of the series?

Is what I've seen indicative of the pace and tempo of the rest of the series?

Yes, allowing for some variations along the way.

And if you don't like the series' "overly depressing atmosphere" now, it ain't gonna get appreciably better overall (though there is change).

Sounds like BSG might not be for you, but that ain't no crime. Think of it as getting 70+ hours of your life back. :)

Yes, allowing for some variations along the way.

And if you don't like the series' "overly depressing atmosphere" now, it ain't gonna get appreciably better overall (though there is change).

Sounds like BSG might not be for you, but that ain't no crime. Think of it as getting 70+ hours of your life back. :)

As Penman says, it ain't no crime not to like BSG. But I want to point out:

Their surroundings are depressing. Their situation is depressing. Their prospects are depressing. They are in an extremely difficult situation as the pursued last remnants of humanity. And yet duty, honor, loyalty, love, respect, and much more comes from each character in different ways (well, most... Baltar? Humpf). But it's realistic, accompanied by their many human failings: addiction, drunkenness, narcissism, poor judgement, stubbornness, etc. I find the upshot inspiring, uplifting... a message of basic flawed humanity managing to survive an extremely difficult situation because of love, loyalty and selflessness.

I love the depressing atmosphere of BSG!!!, and it gets worse!!!

Have looked through most of the pages here, are there any comparison pics between dvd and bluray?

Have looked through most of the pages here, are there any comparison pics between dvd and bluray?

I don't have any comparisons at the ready, but I do remember the DVD being surprisingly good. But I got the Blu-ray. I'd be interested in comparisons too.

Have looked through most of the pages here, are there any comparison pics between dvd and bluray?

Blu-ray picture is often grainy because how how the produced wanted how the feel of the show. But the picture quality is far better than DVD edition. The audio quality is way above the DVD version. I have both Blu-ray and DVD edition and I'll say Blu-ray version is worth it.

Hello. I'm not here to ruffle anyone's feathers, but I'm having doubts about whether I should continue the series or not. I've seen the mini-series as well as the first five episodes and even though I can see potential in the series, I am not at all warming up to any of the characters or the overly depressing atmosphere. Is what I've seen indicative of the pace and tempo of the rest of the series?

Just add some opinions that replies didn't cover. If you prefer to watch scifi show that has a lot of weekly battles, then you may not like this reimagined BSG. But when there is a battle, they are always amazing and have a purpose. If you do continue watching the series, wait until the early episodes of Season 3. You aren't going to see such type of battle on other scifi show.

No one in BSG is perfect but everyone has something to contribute in the end of the series. Compared to scifi shows like Star Trek (not trying to say anything bad about Star Trek because I also like Star Trek), there is not one hero among the crew that somehow always saves the day. If you have watched BSG TOS, Apollo and Starbuck somehow always saved the day. Not so with this BSG. Everyone has ups and downs. Also, good guys and bad guys aren't completely black and white. Even the character's rank and roles change quite often by Season 3 onwards because the fleet has to do what they can with who's available to get things done. So, it's not like most shows where each character rank and role stayed mostly the same through the seasons. I'm always amused to watch shows like Star Trek where the character rank and roles are often still the same until the series ended.

I like how this BSG keeps track of little details with the ships as the season progresses. The condition of Galactica continues to delay and so with other ships. The scars on Galactica throughout the series remain you of the tough journey she and the fleet have to go through. It's not like Star Trek where the ships magically look brand new again in one or a few episodes later after a major battle.

Just add some opinions that replies didn't cover. If you prefer to watch scifi show that has a lot of weekly battles, then you may not like this reimagined BSG. But when there is a battle, they are always amazing and have a purpose. If you do continue watching the series, wait until the early episodes of Season 3. You aren't going to see such type of battle on other scifi show.

No one in BSG is perfect but everyone has something to contribute in the end of the series. Compared to scifi shows like Star Trek (not trying to say anything bad about Star Trek because I also like Star Trek), there is not one hero among the crew that somehow always saves the day. If you have watched BSG TOS, Apollo and Starbuck somehow always saved the day. Not so with this BSG. Everyone has ups and downs. Also, good guys and bad guys aren't completely black and white. Even the character's rank and roles change quite often by Season 3 onwards because the fleet has to do what they can with who's available to get things done. So, it's not like most shows where each character rank and role stayed mostly the same through the seasons. I'm always amused to watch shows like Star Trek where the character rank and roles are often still the same until the series ended.

I like how this BSG keeps track of little details with the ships as the season progresses. The condition of Galactica continues to delay and so with other ships. The scars on Galactica throughout the series remain you of the tough journey she and the fleet have to go through. It's not like Star Trek where the ships magically look brand new again in one or a few episodes later after a major battle.

Good summary! To defend Star Trek's magically "new" looking ships, their universe has a large infrastructure that can repair/rebuild ships. BSG doesn't have that luxury, and so the scars remain, very realistically as you point out.

Good summary! To defend Star Trek's magically "new" looking ships, their universe has a large infrastructure that can repair/rebuild ships. BSG doesn't have that luxury, and so the scars remain, very realistically as you point out.

Yes, for most Star Trek series, that were true. But with Voyager where they are stuck in the middle of no where with very limited resources and crew, it was always amazing the small crew was able to completely fixed their ship quickly after several major attacks. Same as the first Enterprise when they were are very far away from Earth.

Back to BSG. When I rewatched the mini series or Season 1 of BSG, the clean look of Galactica just look alien to me because I got so used to Galactica's condition by the end of the series. Because of the details were kept throughout the seasons, I can usually tell what timeline an episode took place by looking at the condition of Galactica. One of the coolest part is when the Galactica's name emblem outside the ship was repainted like the crew tried to their flag ship appearance respectable while trying to keep the ship intact and running. The flag ship is the backbone of the fleet. It felt right listening to Adam's speech before going into the final battle.

Hello. I'm not here to ruffle anyone's feathers, but I'm having doubts about whether I should continue the series or not. I've seen the mini-series as well as the first five episodes and even though I can see potential in the series, I am not at all warming up to any of the characters or the overly depressing atmosphere. Is what I've seen indicative of the pace and tempo of the rest of the series?

To be honest, I wasn't a big fan of BSG until season 2. I liked the space battles early on and thought things started getting interesting toward the end of season 1, but what really hooked me was the Pegasus episode in season 2. That and the surprises at the end of seasons 2 and 3. The show started introducing some elements of classic cult television late in season 1 (Laura's visions, Kara's destiny) and followed up with the mystery over the "final five" cylons in the latter half of season 3.

The developent of the characters over all of the episodes was really something. One of my favorite episodes, "Unfinished Business" in season 3, was entirely character-driven with hardly any special effects. And while not everything was fully explained in the end of the series, (where did the music that turned on the final five come from???), it was a satisfying ending, at least to me.

Yes, for most Star Trek series, that were true. But with Voyager where they are stuck in the middle of no where with very limited resources and crew, it was always amazing the small crew was able to completely fixed their ship quickly after several major attacks. Same as the first Enterprise when they were are very far away from Earth.

We try to forget that Voyager was a Star Trek Universe series, so I will gladly ignore the inconsistencies of that show.

The developent of the characters over all of the episodes was really something. One of my favorite episodes, "Unfinished Business" in season 3, was entirely character-driven with hardly any special effects. And while not everything was fully explained in the end of the series (where did the music that turned on the final five come from???), it was a satisfying ending, at least to me.
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Dude, Dylan IS God, so therefore he was just communicating to them via Hendrix-and-variations renditions in the only way he knew, 'cause music is from the soul, so he was showing the Cylons had souls. Um, or something like that. Hey, pizza! I'm starvin' man...

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Indeed, that is one of the most enjoyable, or as you put it satisfying, elements of the series: not everything is neatly wrapped up, there are some unanswered questions. And a heck of a lot of unasked answers.

Glad to see this thread is still trudging along - shows the strength and depth of the series.

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Thanks for not getting too defensive over the series. And no I'm not into space battles at all or any action really and am watching it for the drama and politics. One of my biggest peeves is that Roslin's face seems to be stuck in a constant nervous breakdown state even on less depressing occasions, but she is my favorite character and I find her down-to-earth pragmatism and cynicism hilarious.

The good news is that I can free up my DVD queue on Netflix since they are supposedly going to start streaming BSG next week and I can watch the series on the side.

Thanks for not getting too defensive over the series. And no I'm not into space battles at all or any action really and am watching it for the drama and politics. One of my biggest peeves is that Roslin's face seems to be stuck in a constant nervous breakdown state even on less depressing occasions, but she is my favorite character and I find her down-to-earth pragmatism and cynicism hilarious.

The good news is that I can free up my DVD queue on Netflix since they are supposedly going to start streaming BSG next week and I can watch the series on the side.

Roslin is under tremendous pressure. Her gasps, sighs and short little laughs drove me crazy, though the emotion behind them is palpable and understandable. She was one of my favorite characters too.

Starbuck grew to be my favorite. She's a very vulnerable, damaged, firey but intensely loyal and duty-bound person. A very interesting character to get to know over the seasons.

Glad you're enjoying it despite your reservations.

To be honest, I wasn't a big fan of BSG until season 2. I liked the space battles early on and thought things started getting interesting toward the end of season 1, but what really hooked me was the Pegasus episode in season 2. That and the surprises at the end of seasons 2 and 3. The show started introducing some elements of classic cult television late in season 1 (Laura's visions, Kara's destiny) and followed up with the mystery over the "final five" cylons in the latter half of season 3.

The developent of the characters over all of the episodes was really something. One of my favorite episodes, "Unfinished Business" in season 3, was entirely character-driven with hardly any special effects. And while not everything was fully explained in the end of the series (where did the music that turned on the final five come from???), it was a satisfying ending, at least to me.

I think that's a huge spoiler. It needs editing.

I think that's a huge spoiler. It needs editing.

Original post edited. Thanks for the reminder.

Blu-ray picture is often grainy because how how the produced wanted how the feel of the show. But the picture quality is far better than DVD edition. The audio quality is way above the DVD version. I have both Blu-ray and DVD edition and I'll say Blu-ray version is worth it.

This is reviving a old thread, but just re-watched the Blu-Ray version and the amount of grain is horrendous! Some shots are excellent, but some shots are so bad that I wish they would reshoot it. Wishful thinking .

This is reviving a old thread, but just re-watched the Blu-Ray version and the amount of grain is horrendous! Some shots are excellent, but some shots are so bad that I wish they would reshoot it. Wishful thinking .

The grain was an intended look. They actually added it in there as most of the show was shot digitally.

Was the pilot shot digitally as well? That seemed to have much heavier grain in places than any episode of the series that followed (although some series shots still had pretty heavy artificial grain).

Man if only Ronald D Moore would make a new sci-fi show... BSG was great, and I'm just watching DS9 for the first time now (never seen it, shock horror!!!) and it is spectacular.

I know he is doing BSG Blood and Chrome but I would love to see a new sci-fi show of some sort.... good Sci-fi seems a bit thin on the ground these days. Any good shows that do crop up just get cancelled (SGU).

Was the pilot shot digitally as well? That seemed to have much heavier grain in places than any episode of the series that followed (although some series shots still had pretty heavy artificial grain).

It was shot on 35mm film but how it looks I wonder if it was scanned at 1K or filtered. Also there are various CG shots that look sub HD, either due to rendering at that resolution or zoomed in.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0314979/technical

Thankfully most of the discs do a really good job of accurately replicating the intended look of the show; however Season 4 is problematic due to switching between AVC and VC-1 codecs resulting in a softer less fine detailed image. It almost appears as if the show has been filtered but I am pretty sure it has more to do with VC-1 not being as efficient with amount of content on each disc. Whereas all the AVC encoded episodes look great with fine detail and accurate grain retained.

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I really , really love this series. I think this was one of the first series collection I bought for blu-ray around 2010. Loved the soundtrack, the drama and action . It isn't a show for someone looking for nonstop action, 'cause there's a lot of drama but when the action comes is well worth it. In my opinion, this TV series are better than a lot of Sci-fi movies released by Hollywood so far.

The grain was an intended look. They actually added it in there as most of the show was shot digitally.


Well parts of it look like my shots of old Star Wars Laser Discs that's how bad the grain is. :eek: Frankly I wish they would take the intended grain and stick it ! :D

Yep, this is definitely one of the best, if not the best, television series that I've ever seen, so I finally purchased the entire series on blu-ray. I remember being extremely saddened when the show came to an end, and can't wait to watch it all again.

Hoping the wife will join me this time around! :cool:

I can't wait to see how the Blood and Chrome Blu-Ray will look. The trailer footage alone makes it look quite stunning compared to BSG's minimalist stuff for most of the show. Hopefully they didn't go crazy with the grain.

Don't hold your breath, SyFy is doing its best to cheapskate by on the good faith of Sci-Fi fans while it morphs into the complete opposite of its original premise.

They are doing their best to bury this show since the half hazard asinine amalgamation of an original property, Caprica, with BSG good will cash-in did not pan out.

SyFy's modus operandi now is to do the bare minimum with comparatively cheap inane 'reality' programing and reruns of actual Sci-Fi shows in order to retain its viewer base.

Judging from the trailer it was probably made by someone who was on production or near it but certainly not sanctioned by SyFy since it has a pointed coda at them.


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Yep, this is definitely one of the best, if not the best, television series that I've ever seen, so I finally purchased the entire series on blu-ray. I remember being extremely saddened when the show came to an end, and can't wait to watch it all again.

Hoping the wife will join me this time around! :cool:

Both my wife and my neighbor's wife can't stand science fiction, or so they thought! To their amazement, they were completely hooked by the first episode. My wife wants to watch the whole series again.

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I can't wait to see how the Blood and Chrome Blu-Ray will look. The trailer footage alone makes it look quite stunning compared to BSG's minimalist stuff for most of the show. Hopefully they didn't go crazy with the grain.

Blood and Chrome is a no go.

http://www.webpronews.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-is-dead-2012-03

I can't wait to see how the Blood and Chrome Blu-Ray will look. The trailer footage alone makes it look quite stunning compared to BSG's minimalist stuff for most of the show. Hopefully they didn't go crazy with the grain.

The CGI sets looks absolutely terrible to my eyes. I'm not really upset that the show isn't happening.

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ahah i kinda did the same! so whats happened after? Did they really get in touch with him?

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Brilliant!

ahah thanks a lot Kevin M. Dean! thats was really great

Oh man, I love that show!

It's been so long I forgot which episode I left off on.:o I'm somewhere in the third season. I really need to get back into the rhythm of watching these.

Edit: What is this Portlandia show? I've never even heard of it.

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LOL... nice video! It was nice to see some of the cast together again.

I didn't lose my house or job over it, but the rest of that was pretty much the way it happened to me when I first sat down to watch Battlestar Galactica on DVD.

Edit: What is this Portlandia show? I've never even heard of it.
Portlandia is a sketch comedy show on IFC, lampooning the stereotypes of Portland, Oregon.

I really like the artwork Darknight posted in this thread, unfortunately the links are down back at his post here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17010291#post17010291

Does anyone have the files for that artwork? I recently bought the blu-ray set of the complete series in the cube packaging and wouldn't mind putting it in some normal blu-ray cases for ease of access. Still keeping the cube packaging because I think it's cool.

Or, just throwing this out there, if anyone knows where to find the official insert artwork for the second version of this series released in the normal blu-ray cases. This one:
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Complete-Series-Blu-ray/dp/B0036EH3U2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1336104731&sr=8-3

...that would be great as well. (Providing it's ok to ask for that official artwork here)

I knew it was a longshot but I contacted Universal asking them about the packaging I even said I'd purchase it from them but they just said "cannot help you". Didn't even give any alternative suggestions.

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Or, just throwing this out there, if anyone knows where to find the official insert artwork for the second version of this series released in the normal blu-ray cases. This one:
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Complete-Series-Blu-ray/dp/B0036EH3U2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1336104731&sr=8-3

...that would be great as well. (Providing it's ok to ask for that official artwork here).

I'm pretty sure there are scans of the official artwork for the second set, but they're from slightly reflective digipacks, not inserts for a standard blu-ray case. You'll probably have better luck getting the custom artwork if you're looking for something to fit in a standard case, as I know there were several versions of the custom stuff for various sized multi-disc cases.

Got all excited when I saw a new post here... thought the complete BSG Blu-ray set was on sale for $69 like the Farscape set :(

Oh well- nice to see some of the BSG cast again anyway....

I'm pretty sure there are scans of the official artwork for the second set, but they're from slightly reflective digipacks, not inserts for a standard blu-ray case. You'll probably have better luck getting the custom artwork if you're looking for something to fit in a standard case, as I know there were several versions of the custom stuff for various sized multi-disc cases.

I'm still new to the terminology but when you say "digipacks" do you mean the clear cases the second set comes in as seen here?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61aJtoPl6FL.jpg
(like the Game of Thrones season 1 blu-ray set)

That would be cool to get them. I'd preferably like authentic or close as possible to authentic cases. I don't even know are digipacks like that available for purchase empty on their own?

I'll start Googling after I post this but will ask as well if anyone knows of a place to get artwork and insert scans as well.

Thanks for the responses.

...sorry to disappoint Rob:p maybe someday!