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thorr
02-21-09, 08:24 AM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11368

I hope the price is not too high or they release individual seasons because I already own Season 1 on HD-DVD. Regardless, this is great news!

Edit: Looks to be official:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11699

darkedgex
02-21-09, 08:29 AM
Let's hope it's not too expensive.

PooperScooper
02-21-09, 08:47 AM
I'd start saving up now... :)

larry

RDarrylR
02-21-09, 08:57 AM
It'll have to be $200 to $300 won't it? I want it for sure but the cost can't be too insane.

dashielm
02-21-09, 10:06 AM
awesome news. day one purchase for me. this will be expensive though as they sell half-seasons on dvd for $50. i'm guessing at least a $399 msrp.

i really hope this will be an archival release something like the matrix ultimate collection or blade runner - mini series, all four seasons, all webisodes, both movies, the caprica pilot and i want top-notch transfers for everything.

it would also be really cool to have an option to watch mythology based episodes only and skip the stand-alone episodes. as good as some of those are, i would enjoy a marathon weekend of just the core story.

paku
02-21-09, 10:27 AM
While complete sets are nice, part of me almost wishes they'd break it down. First, it's no doubt going to be horrendously expensive. Second, it's going to be more difficult to ship without damaging the cases or discs. Finally, Warner had trouble keeping some of the 5-disc sets of Blade Runner and Harry Potter straight, imagine the potential for errors with a 20-disc set, both in terms of authoring as well as pressing and packaging.

cobolisdead
02-21-09, 10:37 AM
This is great news, but that is going to have to be one expensive set! I can't see myself paying over $200 at once for this set.

RY35AN
02-21-09, 11:30 AM
Crap! I'm gonna have to pick this up.

TyrantII
02-21-09, 11:48 AM
Frak yea!

luigionlsd
02-21-09, 12:49 PM
~$200 and I'll buy it. $300 will take some serious thought... or a miracle.

Jason One
02-21-09, 12:54 PM
Very exciting! I just hope Universal doesn't DNR it.

geekyglassesgirl
02-21-09, 01:30 PM
I'll definitely be interested in this, but I'm going to hold back and see reviews of the quality first for sure. I have S1-3 on DVD, and if it's not much of an upgrade I won't double dip if there's too many issues. That said, I have always been underwhelmed with the quality on DVD, so we'll have to see. I loooove this series!

Jedi2016
02-21-09, 01:34 PM
Well, this might be the answer I've been looking for. I've got S1 on DVD, but I never picked up the others because the whole split-season "2.0/2.5" thing just pissed me off, especially since each half-season cost the same as a full season. Getting it all in one set would be the answer.

sethk
02-21-09, 01:37 PM
The episodes I've seen broadcast in high def honestly don't look that great, because of the intention over and undersaturation used, the blowout of highlights, intentional noise added etc. However the picture should benefit from the high bitrate and resolution available, which should help compress the picture with fewer visible artifacts. I'm still not expecting a Tier 0 or Tier 1 release with BG in blu-ray.

eightninesuited
02-21-09, 01:39 PM
http://www.gearlover.com/images/ultimate-matrix-collection-bluray1.JPG

I hope they release it like Warner did with the Matrix limited edition, only the disks being inside the Battlestar.

geekyglassesgirl
02-21-09, 01:43 PM
The episodes I've seen broadcast in high def honestly don't look that great, because of the intention over and undersaturation used, the blowout of highlights, intentional noise added etc. However the picture should benefit from the high bitrate and resolution available, which should help compress the picture with fewer visible artifacts. I'm still not expecting a Tier 0 or Tier 1 release with BG in blu-ray.


Oh yeah, I'm not holding my breath for Tier 0 or Tier 1, but I could be happy with Tier 2 on this, if the price is right. Given that up where I live in northern Canada, even the Wal-Mart still has S1 for $45 on DVD, and the stupid split-seasons for $40, I'm not holding my breath on the price point either. ;)

TyrantII
02-21-09, 02:11 PM
I'm still not expecting a Tier 0 or Tier 1 release with BG in blu-ray.

Tier has nothing to do with clarity, but with replication of the original....

If it represents Film grain and artistic intent as it's supposed to, it can be tier 0 & 1. I don't know why we shouldn't demand a tier 0 transfer, especially with the show being recorded on digital cameras from what I've read.

geekyglassesgirl
02-21-09, 02:17 PM
Tier has nothing to do with clarity, but with replication of the original....

If it represents Film grain and artistic intent as it's supposed to, it can be tier 0 & 1.


Depends on who's criteria you're looking at. ;) I'm basing my thoughts on the stickied PQ thread here to clarify my thoughts above -- but def. not willing to get into a debate on PQ criteria!

Luffy
02-21-09, 02:29 PM
Depending on price I'd buy it. Right now I am only willing to spend ~$50 per full season for it. So if it is over that I'll just wait till it hits the bargain bin.

Deviation
02-21-09, 03:08 PM
Yeah, $200 is right about at the limit that I'd pay. I've already got the first three seasons + Razor on DVD at this point.

Ghostface1701
02-21-09, 03:20 PM
I have to say, I love this series so much, I'd be willing to write Universal a blank cheque for these discs :)

TyrantII
02-21-09, 03:29 PM
Depends on who's criteria you're looking at. ;) I'm basing my thoughts on the stickied PQ thread here to clarify my thoughts above -- but def. not willing to get into a debate on PQ criteria!

Well, Band of Brothers is tier 1 with it's washed out colors and very grainy image, so I don't know what you're getting at.

As far as I know the tier sticky was started in attempt to compare bluray transfers to how well they match up to their cinematic counterparts. Not if they are clear and sharp as looking through a window. But i digress, some is up to opinion obviously.

IF BSG is true to how it was recorded \ shot, then there's no reason to call it a bad transfer on the tier system here.

geekyglassesgirl
02-21-09, 05:40 PM
Tier has nothing to do with clarity, but with replication of the original....

If it represents Film grain and artistic intent as it's supposed to, it can be tier 0 & 1. I don't know why we shouldn't demand a tier 0 transfer, especially with the show being recorded on digital cameras from what I've read.


that's the part i was referring to, tyrant. there's 2 different threads, one is for straight PQ & the other is for film grain & artistic intent. I was just clarifying my earlier post that I was meaning the straight PQ thread's criteria. If you want to talk about it further, we can take the discussion to the PQ thread to not clutter this one up! :)

stumlad
02-21-09, 05:52 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=956920&highlight=galactica

Here are some comparisons of the HD DVD versus the HDTV and DVD releases of season 1. Now the HD DVD set had a couple of issues (lip sync in a couple of spots, and some weird interlacing artifacts), but overall was a significant step up from the DVD. The mini-series looked like it needed a new transfer though. Looking back at some of these pics, I wonder if the blu-ray will retain better grain structure as we saw with Bourne.

dargo
02-21-09, 07:03 PM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11368

I hope the price is not too high or they release individual seasons because I already own Season 1 on HD-DVD. Regardless, this is great news!

nothing has been announced by Universal news reports comes from a blog
any idiot can have a blog as for price amazon has season 1 HDDVD for $71
so when the blu-ray set come out I'd bet $300:(

eric.exe
02-21-09, 07:39 PM
I wonder if it will include both TV movies, Razor (2007) and The Plan (airing in June).

thorr
02-21-09, 09:33 PM
nothing has been announced by Universal news reports comes from a blog
:(

Yes, but at least it was reported by multiple sources which gives it decent credibility.

thorr
02-21-09, 09:40 PM
I wonder if it will include both TV movies, Razor (2007) and The Plan (airing in June).

Cool, I hadn't hear about "The Plan". It's a bummer that the series is almost over. It would be cool if they could find a way to travel through time or something so they can get to a habitable Earth. They did say that everything keeps happening again and again, so there are possibilities.

I hope they also have a lot of extras with the set. It would be cool to see the behind the scenes stuff.

luigionlsd
02-21-09, 11:21 PM
Well, Band of Brothers is tier 1 with it's washed out colors and very grainy image, so I don't know what you're getting at.

Did we watch the same discs?

stumlad
02-22-09, 01:45 AM
It's a bummer that the series is almost over. It would be cool if they could find a way to travel through time or something so they can get to a habitable Earth. They did say that everything keeps happening again and again, so there are possibilities.


I don't know. There were quite a few "filler" episodes the past 2 seasons. The whole Baltar religion thing was annoying... I liked it better when Six was in his head... now it feels like they are trying to come up with reasons to keep him relevant. Don't get me wrong, I still like the show, but extending it for another couple of seasons (especially at this point) would be hard to do, or it would be frustrating for the audience. Though... I have to admit: if S4 E 11 ( or S4.5 ep 1) was the "end" of the show, that would have been an incredible let down.

I wouldn't mind a spin off show though.

Ghostface1701
02-22-09, 03:51 AM
I don't know. There were quite a few "filler" episodes the past 2 seasons. The whole Baltar religion thing was annoying... I liked it better when Six was in his head... now it feels like they are trying to come up with reasons to keep him relevant. Don't get me wrong, I still like the show, but extending it for another couple of seasons (especially at this point) would be hard to do, or it would be frustrating for the audience. Though... I have to admit: if S4 E 11 ( or S4.5 ep 1) was the "end" of the show, that would have been an incredible let down.

I wouldn't mind a spin off show though.

Well, the Blu-rays can hold us over until Caprica starts next year :)

dashielm
02-22-09, 11:43 AM
Yes, but at least it was reported by multiple sources which gives it decent credibility.

and there was another thread a few days back that showed in britain there's going to be a new battlestar galactica going through their ratings board. so quite a bit of circumstantial evidence.

the new movie is supposed to air in june, so a july release data would follow on the pattern of razor which got a home video release 10 days after it first aired.

rdclark
02-22-09, 01:08 PM
I don't believe it. I would believe individual seasons on BD, released one at a time.

I don't believe they would release a complete series on BD before releasing the complete series on DVD (given that the DVDs already exist). And there's been no announcement of a complete DVD series.

I don't believe they would release a complete series on DVD until after the 4.5 set has had a chance to sell. I would expect this to happen around the time Caprica actually debuts as a series.

I don't believe in rumors posted on blogs whose only source is "somebody who knows somebody."

With the current DVDs' total list price somewhere north of $300, what would the list price on a complete series on BD be?

And when has there ever been a release of a complete series in any format without individual seasons being released first?

rdclark
02-22-09, 01:31 PM
It's not the first time things have been bundled on BD.

When was the first time a complete series on BD was released without the individual seasons being released first?

It's probably easier to sell on the format until it becomes more mainstream. Just because the DVDs are that expensive doesn't mean the BDs will be as expensive(although it'll still be something like $150-200).

When has the BD version of something had a lower list price than the equivalent DVD version?

I'd imagine the reason the DVDs are so costly and also why they release seasons in halves is because they're trying to make as much profit as they can from the dedicated geek fanbase.

Of course. Which is why I don't believe this rumor. DVD still outsells BD 10 to 1. They will first release Season 4.5 on DVD. Then possibly Season 4.0 /4.5 pn BD. Then the complete series on DVD and individual earlier seasons on BD. Then the compete series on BD with additional features to encourage double dipping.

I don't understand why people are being so naive as to think we're going to get an early release of the complete series at a bargain price. It's the show that's science fiction. This is still reality.

HDMe2
02-22-09, 01:59 PM
Can't answer all your questions, and I'm skeptical as well until I see it officially announced...

...but the Get Smart TV DVD complete set was offered before the individual seasons were. Time-Life had an exclusive on the complete season for a short while, then they started releasing the individual season sets later.

Also, a handful of TV-on-Blu have been around the same price as their DVD counterparts. I bought Sarah Connor Chronicles, for example, for $21 on Blu from Warner when it first came out... and the DVD was right about that price at most stores.

I'm also noting that the Star Trek Season 1 on Blu (which includes remastered and original versions) has a $90 price tag on Amazon right now for pre-order, and I remember buying Season 1 on DVD (not the remastered version) for about $99 when it first came out years ago.

paku
02-22-09, 02:52 PM
It actually makes a lot of sense to release it on BD as a complete series. Here's why: people who only bought part of the show on DVD so far.

Coupled with concerns that the original look might mean the BDs aren't that much of an improvement, people who have already bought half the show may opt to only get the remaining seasons on BD. By releasing the complete set first, they can make a lot of those people re-buy everything, spending a maximum amount of money.

The fact that a complete DVD set hasn't been released doesn't mean anything, in my opinion. I think it would actually be a bad idea. Imagine there are a number of people who decide to pick up the complete series for the first time. If there's a $200 DVD set in addition to a $300 BD set, some of those are no doubt going to pick the cheaper option. This is not like losing out on a huge number of sales by releasing a new movie only on BD, since the show is available through individual DVD releases if the customer doesn't have Blu-ray.

psgcdn
02-22-09, 03:21 PM
Heck, the current DVD releases do even come close to exploiting the potential picture quality. The shows flips from excellent picture to so grainy you can hardly believe it.

Still... Best show on TV by far.

GumboChief
02-22-09, 07:07 PM
Still... Best show on TV by far.

Since you are in Canada, I will assume that you have yet to see the steaming pile of dung, that was episode 4.16 :p

geekyglassesgirl
02-22-09, 10:49 PM
Since you are in Canada, I will assume that you have yet to see the steaming pile of dung, that was episode 4.16 :p

I'm up in canuckland... the episode airing difference is about an hour I think between Sci Fi in USA and Space in Canada.

Not that I'm caught up though. The husband and I are 2 episodes behind, but will catch up tonight! :D

kdssrugby
02-22-09, 11:17 PM
Only 2 episodes behind? I have like 4 seasons to go.
I have the first season on HD DVD (yes point and laugh) that I just got around to watching a few months ago and have refused to spend money on the dvd's when I know it'll be coming out on blu-ray soon. One question: Is the series getting to this point?
http://www.lilformers.com/index.php/2009/02/09/lil-formers-134-battlestar-galactica/

Deviation
02-22-09, 11:57 PM
Only 2 episodes behind? I have like 4 seasons to go.
I have the first season on HD DVD (yes point and laugh) that I just got around to watching a few months ago and have refused to spend money on the dvd's when I know it'll be coming out on blu-ray soon. One question: Is the series getting to this point?
http://www.lilformers.com/index.php/2009/02/09/lil-formers-134-battlestar-galactica/
It seemed that way for a little while but we know who all of the cylons are now.

loco
02-23-09, 10:38 AM
I really hope they add some extras. I'd love for all the seasons' gag reels to be included, for example!

SC0TLANDF0REVER
02-23-09, 03:05 PM
Bill Hunt has more info on this, but still a rumor ATM:
Next, consider this Rumor Mill worthy, but our industry sources are confirming a bit of exciting news that our friends over at Galactica Sitrep have posted today... specifically that Battlestar Galactica: The Complete Series is currently set to be released by Universal on Blu-ray Disc on 7/28. Also coming to DVD soon is Season 4.5 and a Season 4.0/Season 4.5/Caprica pilot 3-pack. It's likely these new DVDs will street on 4/21, which is when the already announced Caprica pilot DVD is set to hit stores. We expect the official announcement in the next few weeks, so be sure to check back for all the details.

I for one, look forward to seeing it in 'the crispness' of 1080p :)

txfilmguy
02-23-09, 03:46 PM
Bill Hunt has more info on this, but still a rumor ATM:


I for one, look forward to seeing it in 'the crispness' of 1080p :)

Me too. I hate it when my shows get soggy.

JakiChan
03-05-09, 12:58 AM
I will probably buy this. I have the miniseries, the season one box set (with the miniseries), and both season 2 boxes. I stopped there, planning to go back, but then decided to wait for BD. If it has Razor and The Plan, then I will buy it for sure. I'm guessing/assuming it'll be about $400 list, and amazon can get it to me for about 25% off. Expensive, but this show is worth it.

Scarpad
03-05-09, 10:11 AM
The episodes I've seen broadcast in high def honestly don't look that great, because of the intention over and undersaturation used, the blowout of highlights, intentional noise added etc. However the picture should benefit from the high bitrate and resolution available, which should help compress the picture with fewer visible artifacts. I'm still not expecting a Tier 0 or Tier 1 release with BG in blu-ray.

I agree they look better but not enough better to double dip as I started this series on DVD and I'll finish it there, I usually wait to pick it up on sale and have gotten they other half seasons for around $20 or so.

dargo
03-05-09, 10:36 AM
I don't believe it. I would believe individual seasons on BD, released one at a time.

I don't believe they would release a complete series on BD before releasing the complete series on DVD (given that the DVDs already exist). And there's been no announcement of a complete DVD series.

I don't believe they would release a complete series on DVD until after the 4.5 set has had a chance to sell. I would expect this to happen around the time Caprica actually debuts as a series.

I don't believe in rumors posted on blogs whose only source is "somebody who knows somebody."

With the current DVDs' total list price somewhere north of $300, what would the list price on a complete series on BD be?

And when has there ever been a release of a complete series in any format without individual seasons being released first?

You are correct sir! till Universal makes an announcement this is "pure" speculation, blogs are worthless as good sources of information without proof!

dargo
03-05-09, 10:39 AM
It seemed that way for a little while but we know who all of the cylons are now.

but what is starbuck? not cylon, i hope it's something really cool ;-)

jcc
03-05-09, 12:07 PM
In this economy, I hope they're not foolish enough to charge $300+ for the series.

metalsaber
03-05-09, 03:48 PM
In this economy, I hope they're not foolish enough to charge $300+ for the series.

I would agree with that.

Andy Anonymous
03-05-09, 10:47 PM
but what is starbuck? not cylon, i hope it's something really cool ;-)

Based on what was revealed during last week's episode, it's implied that she is half Cylon, like Hera.

jblank74
03-06-09, 08:28 AM
How'd you arrive at that Andy?

shinksma
03-06-09, 10:43 AM
Hey folks,

As someone monitoring this thread for news on the release of BSG on BD, and since I haven't been following the show on TV for a variety of reasons and have only watched Season 1 (HD DVD), I'd appreciate it if spoilers about the current or past plot lines would be hidden using appropriate tags.

Thanks!

shinksma

Matt_Stevens
03-06-09, 12:29 PM
Yes, NO SPOILERS please! I am not caught up yet. Just starting season 4.

Romerojpg
03-06-09, 01:19 PM
Yup Way to go and ruin the show! :mad: just what I wanted not to see! :confused::rolleyes: Jesus!

johnbe
03-06-09, 02:12 PM
Yes, NO SOILERS please! I am not caught up yet. Just starting season 4.

I know some really like this show, but I agree. Don't soil yourself when it arrives on BD. :eek::D

cobolisdead
03-06-09, 04:32 PM
Yup Way to go and ruin the show! :mad: just what I wanted not to see! :confused::rolleyes: Jesus!

Don't worry, he's only guessing.

Andy Anonymous
03-06-09, 10:53 PM
Sorry guys, I fixed it, for what that's worth now.

For those curious about my conclusion:

Starbuck was talking to and playing with the mysterious piano player. When he helped her remember the piano song and play it, it was strongly implied that the piano player was in fact her father. (His background story closely mirrored that of her father, and the look she gave him after playing the song was one of childlike joy...I think there might have been something else suggesting it too, but I can't remember off the top of my head.) And when Tigh and co. came over to ask Starbuck where she learned to play that song, the piano player was gone, along with all his sheet music...so likely he was never really there at all, except in Starbuck's head.

A couple of weeks before, the Cylons mentioned "Daniel", the thirteenth Cylon who was part of the Final Five (Six?) but who was boxed up by Cavill. Not much was mentioned about him, but they did say that he was a musician.

Hmmmmmm...

Deviation
03-06-09, 11:37 PM
Daniel wasn't one of the final five, he was one of the models that they created. And yes, I got the same idea, that Daniel was Starbuck's father.How are they going to finish this show in just two more episodes? I feel like they need at least four or even five.

shadowrage
03-07-09, 01:05 AM
Based on what was revealed during last week's episode, it's implied that she is half Cylon, like Hera.I think Balthar is too. I really want to know what his deal is
I think Balthar is too. I rea

How are they going to finish this show in just two more episodes? I feel like they need at least four or even five.
Well the first part of the final ep is next week. Part 2 is two hours long. Personally I think these past few episodes have had some fantastic writing and I trust that they know how long it will take for the creators to end the story. i can't wait to see how it all plays out.:eek:

Pugnax555
03-07-09, 08:35 PM
Finally watched last night's episode. Should be interesting to see how they wrap this whole thing up. Not a whole lot of time to do it in.

As for the BD, I really hope they release individual seasons. That way I can pick up Season 4 on BD (and sell off my 4.0 DVD) and then slowly replace the other seasons as I have the funds. I mean, I can afford 200-300 bucks for a full series box, but the chances of me wanting to drop that much at once for a TV show is slim to none. Spread that amount out over a year or 14 months and it's no problem.

Chad R
03-07-09, 08:43 PM
I mean, I can afford 200-300 bucks for a full series box, but the chances of me wanting to drop that much at once for a TV show is slim to none. Spread that amount out over a year or 14 months and it's no problem.

Ditto

Matt_Stevens
03-09-09, 08:02 AM
I know some really like this show, but I agree. Don't soil yourself when it arrives on BD. :eek::D
D'OH! :D

Last night I watched the final two episodes of season 4. Holy ****! Talk about a shocker finale. Now I have to go insane waiting for the end of the month when Sci-Fi does their marathon run of season 4.5, including the finale. I am dieing to see what happens next and how it all ends.

Would love to have a price figure on this series BD.

Scot Kight
03-19-09, 09:22 AM
Any news?

TyrantII
03-23-09, 10:57 AM
heard somewhere it's out in July. All I know is this is going to be a wallet buster $$$.

Still, It's going to be nice to see the series finally, specifically the first hour, in non-macroblocked, compressed craptastic cable HD.

Paul Arnette
03-23-09, 12:58 PM
I was all jazzed for this release until I learned that there was a two-hour movie called BSG: The Plan slated for this fall. I'd rather they wait and include everything.

rdclark
03-23-09, 01:26 PM
Any news?

There never was any news, unless reporting rumors that "some guy who knows somebody who said..." is news.

Deviation
03-23-09, 07:01 PM
I was all jazzed for this release until I learned that there was a two-hour movie called BSG: The Plan slated for this fall. I'd rather they wait and include everything.It's not a follow up to the series but rather a retelling of certain events from a Cylon viewpoint. Personally, I see no reason for it to be included in the series set.

Paul Arnette
03-23-09, 10:14 PM
It's not a follow up to the series but rather a retelling of certain events from a Cylon viewpoint. Personally, I see no reason for it to be included in the series set.

I don't see how it is any different than BSG: Razor, which I assumed was included in the rumored set. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

bplewis24
03-23-09, 10:52 PM
There never was any news, unless reporting rumors that "some guy who knows somebody who said..." is news.

You may not believe there is any truth to it, but rumors from industry sources are definitely news. Especially if they have any sort of credible track record.

I don't think this has been posted here:

It's not official yet, but my sources indicate that Battlestar Galactica: The Complete Series will street on Blu-ray sometime in late July (7/28 is the rumored date), and it's likely that the Season 4.5 DVD will street then as well, if not sooner. Watch for announcements in the coming weeks. One thing I CAN confirm for you today, as I learned at the finale screening, is that at least three of the Season 4.5 episodes will be extended on both DVD and Blu-ray, including A Disquiet Follows My Soul (about 10 minutes longer), Islanded in a Stream of Stars (about 20 minutes longer) and Daybreak (the 3-part finale, also about 20 minutes longer). We'll keep you up to date as official announcements are made.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Brandon

shadowrage
03-24-09, 12:28 AM
I don't see how it is any different than BSG: Razor, which I assumed was included in the rumored set. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I will assume you're not talking about one being about a Battlestar crew and the other being about Cylons.

I think I know what you mean, both are technically "movies". Personally I think they should include both or neither, then they could release a 2 pack later.

As long as everything BSG is on Blu-ray I'll be happy.:)

Was it just me or did they remove a good bit of the grain for the last half of the final season?

sunburnwilly
03-25-09, 02:26 PM
If the complete series is released in July I would bet that the cost will be north of $200 . Having seen every episode I will wait it out until say the day after Thanksgiving when it will surely be on sale .

dargo
03-30-09, 11:10 PM
There never was any news, unless reporting rumors that "some guy who knows somebody who said..." is news.

really a website reports that on a blog a guy who has a friend on the inside said...when universal announces something that's news. lot's of people hated the ending i thought it worked great! keep a open mind when you see it.

cobolisdead
03-31-09, 09:11 AM
If the complete series is released in July I would bet that the cost will be north of $200 . Having seen every episode I will wait it out until say the day after Thanksgiving when it will surely be on sale .

Sounds like a good plan to me.

Matt_Stevens
03-31-09, 09:35 AM
Unless I can get it at 40% off, I'll wait for the initial lunacy to subside and buy a copy for next to nothing off of eBay or even better, an amazon seller, that way I have a guarantee. That's what I did for seasons 3 & 4 of LOST. Worked out very well. Both times I was able to snag them at 50% off, including shipping costs.

BG is, hands down, a top 3 series of all time.

bplewis24
03-31-09, 10:04 AM
...when universal announces something that's news.

That's a press release.

Brandon

joemama127
03-31-09, 11:45 AM
If they decide not to offer individual seasons (and just do one giant $$$$ boxset) then I won't be buying the Blu-ray. I already have season 1 on HD-DVD and 2-3/Razor on dvd which looks nearly as good upconverted.

Brajesh
03-31-09, 12:47 PM
I may be one of the few people on AVS that has not seen BSG. The last sci-fi series I was hooked on to was Star Trek: TNG. Looking forward to watching BSG from the beginning.

PooperScooper
04-01-09, 03:40 PM
Please limit discussion to BD (show talk is already in other forum). Thanks.

larry

SC0TLANDF0REVER
04-01-09, 07:24 PM
http://scifiwire.com/2009/04/bear-mccreary.php

Catch more behind-the-scenes features when Battlestar Galactica: The Complete Series becomes available on DVD and Blu-Ray Hi-Def on July 28, 2009

A little more confirmation of the release date :cool:

rdclark
04-01-09, 08:09 PM
Now that is encouraging! But I wish they'd posted it yesterday (or tomorrow).

klgrl7681
04-01-09, 10:48 PM
Augh! July isn't getting here fast enough. :(

seggers
04-07-09, 07:37 AM
I finally watched the final episode last night. Man what a way to go out.

I really hope that the BD gets some 7.1 HD codec loving. Some of those scenes will shake the house down! :D

Seggers

rdclark
04-07-09, 07:48 AM
I finally watched the final episode last night. Man what a way to go out.

I really hope that the BD gets some 7.1 HD codec loving. Some of those scenes will shake the house down! :D

Seggers

Be nice. But I'd be really surprised if they remixed the audio. I'm sure we'll get 5.1 lossless and a new video encode from the HD masters, and really, what more could we reasonably want? (Extras and deleted scenes in HD, that's what!)

tripleM
04-07-09, 09:09 AM
If they decide not to offer individual seasons (and just do one giant $$$$ boxset) then I won't be buying the Blu-ray. I already have season 1 on HD-DVD and 2-3/Razor on dvd which looks nearly as good upconverted.


Same here. I have way too much content to catch up with in my catelogue & I LOVE the re-imagining of BSG like no other Sci-Fi series before.

seggers
04-07-09, 01:07 PM
I finally watched the final episode last night. Man what a way to go out.

I really hope that the BD gets some 7.1 HD codec loving. Some of those scenes will shake the house down! :D

Seggers

Be nice. But I'd be really surprised if they remixed the audio. I'm sure we'll get 5.1 lossless and a new video encode from the HD masters, and really, what more could we reasonably want? (Extras and deleted scenes in HD, that's what!)

Erm, I was being nice. I hope for a really good transfer with enough opmh to give me speakers a workout.

I liked the ending, and the social comment right at the end.

Seggers

bplewis24
04-14-09, 05:49 PM
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Well... it's finally at least SEMI-official. Universal's new Caprica DVD (due 4/21) contains a preview for Battlestar Galactica: The Complete Series, which it says is "coming soon to DVD and Blu-ray Hi-Def." The preview trailer also offers an image of what could be the set's packaging, which appears to include a miniature replica of a Cylon warrior. Here's what it looks like in the promo...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/SombreArtist/bsgcapricapromo.jpg

There's no street date given, and Universal still has yet to officially announce one, but a new Sci-Fi Channel behind-the-scenes clip over on Hulu says it's due on 7/28, which is the date The Bits and Galactica Sitrep first reported back in February. Hopefully, the studio will make an official announcement shortly. We'll definitely have more on this as soon as it comes in.

Stay tuned...

So it's looking more and more realistic with each passing week.

Brandon

philnerd
04-14-09, 06:18 PM
So it's looking more and more realistic with each passing week.


And expensive.

HDMe2
04-14-09, 08:53 PM
While I'm scared of a high price on one hand... On the other hand, I think they'd better apply some intelligence.

Consider... I've seen the entire Star Trek Next Gen 7-season set on DVD for around $200 now... but it was $100 per season as it originally came out.

Now I know Battlestar will be on Blu-ray, but still only 4 seasons + the mini-series + Razor... so if it costs more than $200 it'll probably sit on the shelves for a while.

I bought the mini... then bought Season 1 (got the mini a 2nd time that way) then bought season 2.0 and 2.5... but I stopped at that point hoping for HD/Blu-ray seasons.

Also consider Star Trek Season 1 on Blu is about $73.00 on Amazon for preorder right now... that'd be about $219 for all 3 original seasons if that price holds. Now granted they are old shows, and only some of the stuff was newly generated HD-effects... but still there's like 75+ episodes of that show as the seasons were longer than BSG seasons have been.

Bottom line for me, as much as I want this, if it is too expensive I can wait... since I just watched the show very recently... so I can wait for the price to come down over time.

rdclark
04-14-09, 09:37 PM
Erm, I was being nice.

Sorry. I meant "[It would] be nice." Sometimes I write the way I talk.

UxiSXRD
04-15-09, 12:38 AM
I wouldn't be willing to go higher than $120 and would really prefer it in the $90 range. Looks like I'll be waiting awhile.

rdclark
04-15-09, 08:19 AM
So if it's "complete," it would consist of a 13-episode season and 3 20-episode seasons, plus the miniseries, Razor, The Plan, and a whole passel of webisodes. There is also an unusual amount of material in the form of commentaries, video blogs, interviews, and text, all produced and distributed by the SciFi Channel during the run of the show, that would be easily accommodated by Blu-ray, and that I hope would be included.

Setting aside "manufacturer's suggested retail," to me the selling price that would get me to buy this would be around $150.

And I think that's a fantasy.

stumlad
04-15-09, 08:32 AM
So if it's "complete," it would consist of a 13-episode season and 3 20-episode seasons, plus the miniseries, Razor, The Plan, and a whole passel of webisodes. There is also an unusual amount of material in the form of commentaries, video blogs, interviews, and text, all produced and distributed by the SciFi Channel during the run of the show, that would be easily accommodated by Blu-ray, and that I hope would be included.

Setting aside "manufacturer's suggested retail," to me the selling price that would get me to buy this would be around $150.

And I think that's a fantasy.

Especially with the blu-ray tax.

Right now the MSRP of the DVD sets are (60) S1 + (50+50) S2 + 60 (S3) + (50+50) S4. Then there's Razor and the mini series. Right there, just on DVD, the MSRP is over $350.

Right now you can get the DVD sets for 35-40 at regular stores, and I saw some of the older seasons for $20 at Costco.


From this point forward, I'm pulling numbers out my arse, but:

Even with that, I really doubt they will price the blu-ray set at $399 or higher. I wouldn't see them rationalizing it for more than $399.

What makes sense to me is a price point around $299-349, with the DVD set being $50+ cheaper. At these prices, you can expect the actual street value to be $200-$250 for the blu-ray set and $150-200 for the DVD set.

thorr
04-15-09, 08:39 AM
Latest info:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11699

Pugnax555
04-15-09, 08:49 AM
To be fair, the miniseries is included with Season 1, and Razor is included with Season 4.0. And while you quoted MSRP, you can pick up the DVD sets for ~$30 for the full seasons and ~$20 for the half seasons on sale (or add ~$5-10 for non-sale prices).

I think that they'll price this full Blu-ray set in the $250-300 range, which unfortunately means sales will be pretty abysmal. But I'm glad to have them prove me wrong!

cobolisdead
04-15-09, 04:37 PM
Latest info:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11699

Neat box.

CalgaryCowboy
04-15-09, 09:09 PM
I just hope they release complete seasons individually. I have season 1 HD DVD and don't think I need to double dip yet. Also there is no need for season 2.0,2.5 ect on Blu-ray and if done that way will also be a deal breaker.

Rigby Reardon
04-16-09, 12:40 PM
I just hope they release complete seasons individually. I have season 1 HD DVD and don't think I need to double dip yet. Also there is no need for season 2.0,2.5 ect on Blu-ray and if done that way will also be a deal breaker.I'm in the same boat. But if you look at the TVShowsonDVD link above you will see a screenshot that says "Each individual season also available", so chances are pretty good that this will also be the case for the BD version. I think they are aware that not everybody will want to shell out $$$ for some mega boxset with a toy figure ...

thorr
04-16-09, 02:23 PM
Is there a way to remove "Rumor" from the thread title? I tried, but it just edited the first post. Thanks.

Maxx_75
04-16-09, 03:33 PM
A moderator has to do it. The Best way is to report your own first post and ask.

Kevin M. Dean
04-16-09, 04:13 PM
"Each individual season also available", so chances are pretty good that this will also be the case for the BD version.

That's a big assumption considering it's easy to say that for the dvd since they are already available.

JJ79
04-17-09, 08:41 AM
So if it's "complete," it would consist of a 13-episode season and 3 20-episode seasons, plus the miniseries, Razor, The Plan, and a whole passel of webisodes.

I'd love for The Plan to be included, but that doesn't even premiere until the fall. I don't think this is going to be a Caprica-type thing where The Plan is on disc before SciFi gets it.

Rutgar
04-17-09, 10:11 AM
I just hope they release complete seasons individually. I have season 1 HD DVD and don't think I need to double dip yet. Also there is no need for season 2.0,2.5 ect on Blu-ray and if done that way will also be a deal breaker.

I have the HD DVD as well. But I will be buying the complete box set. Although we don't know for sure yet, I'll bet the box set collectively will be much less than all of the rest of BSG on BD individually, sans Season 1.

stumlad
04-18-09, 10:00 AM
It's up for pre-order on amazon. MSRP is $349... I was pretty close in my estimate. DVD set looks to be $279.

paku
04-18-09, 10:17 AM
I wasn't expecting anything else but I still have to say it: damn that's expensive. Hoping they release it in Europe as well because the import duty/tax alone would be pretty bad on this.

vanilla rice
04-18-09, 10:41 AM
It's up for pre-order on amazon. MSRP is $349... I was pretty close in my estimate.

to clarify, the MSRP is $350, the actual price is $245

Pugnax555
04-18-09, 10:41 AM
It's up for pre-order on amazon. MSRP is $349... I was pretty close in my estimate. DVD set looks to be $279.
Ouch! I really hope the execs don't sit there scratching their heads wondering why it doesn't sell too well....

cobolisdead
04-18-09, 11:01 AM
Ouch! That is mite too high for me. I guess I have some time to save up for it though.

erkq
04-18-09, 11:08 AM
to clarify, the MSRP is $350, the actual price is $245

Even so... oof! Pass..

erkq
04-18-09, 11:17 AM
On second thought, I've got a "bulb" jar I throw a few dollars in each time I watch a movie. It's got $217 in it. Maybe I can raid that and put up with a dimmer pic for a while!

rdclark
04-18-09, 12:36 PM
I'm not really that interested in re-buying S1-3 anyway. I have S1 on HD-DVD. I can stand to watch S2-3 upconverted. If I can get the complete S4 for $60-ish on BD, I'll settle for that.

Rigby Reardon
04-18-09, 02:34 PM
I'm not really that interested in re-buying S1-3 anyway. I have S1 on HD-DVD. I can stand to watch S2-3 upconverted. If I can get the complete S4 for $60-ish on BD, I'll settle for that.The 4.5 "half season" is alsoup for preorder (http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Season-4-5-Blu-ray/dp/B0026RHR6U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1240083015&sr=8-5). But it's $69.98 SRP (I hate this "half season" ripoff :mad:). At least it gives some hope that the other seasons might also be available individually ...

SC0TLANDF0REVER
04-19-09, 06:08 PM
I'm torn - I really want this series on BD.
However, that's a significant chunk of change... I might wait till possible Holiday sales.

kdssrugby
04-19-09, 07:09 PM
I'm surprised no one's posted this yet (via EngadgetHD):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001993Y2C/

So the whole shebang will be $245 after the Amazon discount. Not bad considering I paid $60 for the first season on HD DVD.

conan48
04-19-09, 08:03 PM
I used to order alot of stuff from Amazon.com and liked the fact that there was no tax. When shipping went up I stopped shopping at Amazon.com but I really wan't to pre-order the BSG complete series and Im wondering if it's a good idea to buy from them still. It has a special pre-order price that is 100 less the MSRP.

shinksma
04-19-09, 08:27 PM
I'm surprised no one's posted this yet (via EngadgetHD):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001993Y2C/

So the whole shebang will be $245 after the Amazon discount. Not bad considering I paid $60 for the first season on HD DVD.

um, post#106, and one a bit earlier. Just no linky.

shinksma

kdssrugby
04-19-09, 08:42 PM
Whoops, didn't see that. Sorry.

dashielm
04-19-09, 08:46 PM
it's what about 60 hours worth of content (probably a bit more when you take in to account extended cuts of various episodes and webisodes)

$250/60 = $4 per hour of entertainment

lost season 1
$50/18 = $2.7 per hour of entertainment

south park season 12
$47/5 = $9.4 per hour of entertainment

sin city
$25/2 = $12 per hour of entertainment

terminator 2(original release)
$11.5/2.2 = $5 per hour of entertainment

so while it's expensive it's not outrageous when you look at it in terms of original content to cost.

kdssrugby
04-19-09, 08:49 PM
I personally wouldn't. I likewise used to use them up until the summer when our dollar took a hit. If you do pre-order it from Amazon.com you're looking at about an extra $50 when you convert the dollar plus duty (probably around $10-$20) plus shipping which will be no less than $13. The duty and shipping will also be in US $ so you have to covert that. So basically you'll be paying about $330 Canadian and I can guarantee you that Futureshop or Bestbuy will have a deal (for the first week at least) which I would guess would be closer to $280-$290. And don't bother with Amazon.ca as they price match Futureshop but you also have to factor in the shipping cost.

Also if you don't pre-order it you'll be able to get if for cheaper than Amazon + have it the same day + you'll be able to check out any reviews (which you might read after your pre-order has shipped). As hard as it it is to say, it's better to wait.

HDMe2
04-19-09, 09:40 PM
In my mind there's also a distinct difference between what a show is worth and what I'm willing to pay.

I wholeheartedly recognize the value of a show like this, and the $ per entertained hour is a good way to compare values. Typically a good TV show, to me, has a much better ratio of less $ per hour and a good bit more re-watchability than most movies too.

That said, it's hard for me to plunk down $250 on one thing, especially when it will take me months to actually get the time to watch that one thing completely... whereas if I could buy it in portions, I would be less likely to notice the high price.

Paying $50 every couple of months for a series of 5 series is easier on the eyes/budget than paying $250 and getting it all up front (note, I know there aren't 5 seasons in BSG but the math was easier if I pretended).

So while $250 isn't unreasonable... if I don't have some discount coupons or store credits or something, I'll probably be waiting for the price to come down a bit.

UxiSXRD
04-19-09, 11:50 PM
I'm surprised no one's posted this yet (via EngadgetHD):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001993Y2C/

So the whole shebang will be $245 after the Amazon discount. Not bad considering I paid $60 for the first season on HD DVD.

$9.99 at Frys right now. :eek: Thinking I'll do that to tide me over until the pricing is more reasonable (or there are separate seasons available).

rolltide1017
04-20-09, 08:33 AM
Looks like this will go on the Christmas wish list at that price.

Really wish they'd offer a version with out the elaborate box and toy figure, even if it was only $10-$15 less. I just don't care about the fluff stuff, like toy figures any more and that box will not even fit on my BD shelf. If I do get this, the first thing I'll do is throw out the toy and big main box (assuming that each season has it's own box inside).

Rutgar
04-20-09, 08:54 AM
I went ahead and pre-ordered the set. I didn't see any details on this package. But I'm assuming it will include the original mini-series, and Razor.

Matt_Stevens
04-20-09, 12:36 PM
It'll have everything.

Rutgar
04-20-09, 01:05 PM
It's my understanding that the final episode will also have additional footage that they simply didn't have time for when aired on SciFi.

bunkaroo
04-20-09, 01:22 PM
I read there'd be about 20 minutes more in the finale as well as about 20 minutes more in the "Islanded In A Stream Of Stars" episode.

mdc3000
04-20-09, 01:56 PM
I used to order alot of stuff from Amazon.com and liked the fact that there was no tax. When shipping went up I stopped shopping at Amazon.com but I really wan't to pre-order the BSG complete series and Im wondering if it's a good idea to buy from them still. It has a special pre-order price that is 100 less the MSRP.

Since our dollar went down, in addition to amazon charging duty, I stopped using them altogether... Future Shop has mostly comparable prices, especially after conversion, shipping/handling etc. so I would certainly not preorder if I were you.

joey791
04-20-09, 04:34 PM
I worked a ton out of town last year and got a bunch of Holiday Inn Reward points, in fact enough for about 600 dollars in Amazon gift certificates, looks like I'll be cashing some of those points in.

Exist2Inspire
04-20-09, 11:33 PM
I'm going to wait... like it was mentioned, Amazon.com has increased shipping prices and charges duty ( Do they still ship out of Missasuga like last year? ). Plus with our exchange rate, we're looking at $303 CAD + shipping + Duty.

I'm sure Futureshop will have a nice deal on this set when it comes out. Heck, the Futureshop price for Fast & Furious and the X-Men Collection was pretty darn good. Here's hoping for a $250 - $280 price tag then ( in CAD )

Matt_Stevens
04-21-09, 11:42 AM
The price is too steep for me, unless this film I am working on actually gets made and I get my bonus. Times are tough. :( Hopefully Blockbuster will carry it so I can rent.

Brajesh
04-21-09, 11:50 AM
My plan is to wait a couple of weeks after release to find it cheaper or as Amazon's deal of the day.

tripleM
04-21-09, 01:16 PM
I'm surprised no one's posted this yet (via EngadgetHD):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001993Y2C/

So the whole shebang will be $245 after the Amazon discount. Not bad considering I paid $60 for the first season on HD DVD.

Also looks like it is going to TBP (to Be Purchase) in the future list.
Not sure when that future is tho.

thorthefifth
04-21-09, 11:59 PM
Now I just have to sell my dvd sets.

tkbryant
04-22-09, 12:04 AM
The digitalbits has these pics 2. Looks frickin sweet!

Rutgar
04-22-09, 06:15 AM
The digitalbits has these pics 2. Looks frickin sweet!

Hmm... that doesn't look like it will fit on my shelves.

Deviation
04-22-09, 02:28 PM
Hmm... that doesn't look like it will fit on my shelves.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of this design. I wish they had gone with something more like the series box for Six Feet Under on DVD.

Rigby Reardon
04-22-09, 02:41 PM
This box looks embarrasing and is way too big for my tastes. Also, according to the official press release (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-Press-Release/11751), the seasons won't be available individually except the "half-season" 4.5. :( Hopefully there will be a more normal release in some other country (I bought the UK version of the season 1 HD-DVD set since it came in a nice cardboard box instead of the wobbly packaging of the US version and was inexpensive as well at the time).

cobolisdead
04-22-09, 02:54 PM
The digitalbits has these pics 2. Looks frickin sweet!


Looks awesome! It won't fit in the shelf but it will go on top along with the HP and BOB boxsets.

Deviation
04-22-09, 08:14 PM
I have nowhere to put this monstrosity. Combined with the price and the fact that I already have the DVDs, I think this is enough of an excuse not to make the purchase.

mumbles3k
04-22-09, 08:30 PM
I'm putting mine where it belongs, on a pedestal.

Gai
04-23-09, 02:31 AM
I'm putting mine where it belongs, on a pedestal.

+1 This is one show where I wouldn't mind it actually standing out above everything else. Day one purchase for me.

teiresias
04-23-09, 08:33 AM
Call me when they release the version where they're not charging me for extra little figurines and packaging that won't fit anywhere I keep my discs.

cobolisdead
04-23-09, 10:12 AM
+1 This is one show where I wouldn't mind it actually standing out above everything else. Day one purchase for me.

I think I am going to see if it goes on sale anywhere after it becomes a shelf warmer due to it's massive price tag.

paku
04-23-09, 12:14 PM
Call me when they release the version where they're not charging me for extra little figurines and packaging that won't fit anywhere I keep my discs.
Agreed. To me it looks like the discs are only in the faces of the cube so what is in the middle? Empty space? Seems like a total waste.

I'd much rather buy it if it was just a couple of regular multi-disc cases in slipcases or a box. Of course that's assuming the discs are flawless to begin with.

crakerhead
04-23-09, 09:26 PM
http://www.gearlover.com/images/ultimate-matrix-collection-bluray1.JPG

I hope they release it like Warner did with the Matrix limited edition, only the disks being inside the Battlestar.

okay so i may be ignorant, but where can i find that??? never even heard of this casing before

darkedgex
04-23-09, 09:48 PM
This is the most terrible packaging and pricing I've ever seen.

Pass.

I love the contents of the discs (from the sounds of it anyways), but they need to either use standard packaging (and better pricing) or at least use standard packaging inside their odd custom packaging (so I can store/ditch the custom packaging elsewhere and put the normal packaging on my shelf with my other titles).

Morpheo
04-23-09, 09:51 PM
okay so i may be ignorant, but where can i find that??? never even heard of this casing before

I think it's an exclusive japanese packaging for The Ultimate Matrix.

Deviation
04-23-09, 10:04 PM
This is the most terrible packaging and pricing I've ever seen.

Pass.

I love the contents of the discs (from the sounds of it anyways), but they need to either use standard packaging (and better pricing) or at least use standard packaging inside their odd custom packaging (so I can store/ditch the custom packaging elsewhere and put the normal packaging on my shelf with my other titles).
Unfortunately, it looks like gatefold digipacks... without the slipcase that would hold it all together. Plus they're all DVD sized as the Blu-ray packaging will be identical. DVD sized packaging is one of the reasons I haven't picked up a few Warner special editions...

I'd actually pay extra to ditch the lame packaging and the worthless figurine.

rolltide1017
04-24-09, 12:01 AM
Call me when they release the version where they're not charging me for extra little figurines and packaging that won't fit anywhere I keep my discs.
Agreed, horrible packaging. Why would the make the BD cases the same size as DVDs (or maybe the DVD case is actually BD size). It's just too big, bulky and a waste of space. I could care less about the stupid toy also. Looks more and more like a pass for me. Give me a version in normal BD packaging and no toys and I'll reconsider. The show just ended so, I think I can wait a while to watch it again.

shadowrage
04-24-09, 12:48 AM
This is the most terrible packaging and pricing I've ever seen.

Yeah especially when you compare it to the price of other Blu-ray sets that have an entire TV series. Or other 20 disc BD sets that aren't comprised of bargain bin movies.

Not to mention one that has the production design and budget that makes every episode look more or less equivalent to a small feature film or large feature, depending on the story. The content is well worth the price.

Universal sucks at packaging. Surprisingly enough Warner, even with all the junk, gets packaging right. HBO is the king of Box set packaging though, they always come up with something you just need to buy.

darkedgex
04-24-09, 01:22 AM
Yeah especially when you compare it to the price of other Blu-ray sets that have an entire TV series. Or other 20 disc BD sets that aren't comprised of bargain bin movies.

Not to mention one that has the production design and budget that makes every episode look more or less equivalent to a small feature film or large feature, depending on the story. The content is well worth the price.
To you maybe it is. I loved the show, but the MSRP for this show is ridiculous, and the Amazon.com price isn't much of an improvement. $50 per season seems reasonable, and that would put the MSRP at $200. Take off 30% at Amazon and it becomes a more manageable (and palatable) $140.

I'd have jumped on it at that price; assuming a more standardized packaging...

mumbles3k
04-24-09, 02:03 AM
I will never understand the obsession that people have with packaging. I swear to the Cylon's one true god that we're getting to a point where people will no longer care what's on the disc itself as long as the cover art is pretty and it comes in a case that's the same size as all the other cases.

Seriously, we're talking about containers. What difference does it make? This is a box which contains probably the best TV show of all time. That's all I need to know. If it doesn't fit on my shelf, I'll put it on my mantle, or put the discs in a binder, or whatever. I can't imagine box art ever influencing my decision to purchase a movie.

gringer
04-24-09, 04:40 AM
I finally watched the final episode last night. Man what a way to go out.

I really hope that the BD gets some 7.1 HD codec loving. Some of those scenes will shake the house down! http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k09f0423lglc/b.gif


Seggers

It will terribly shake down! I love the series also.. :p

Ghostface1701
04-24-09, 06:27 AM
I will never understand the obsession that people have with packaging. I swear to the Cylon's one true god that we're getting to a point where people will no longer care what's on the disc itself as long as the cover art is pretty and it comes in a case that's the same size as all the other cases.

Seriously, we're talking about containers. What difference does it make? This is a box which contains probably the best TV show of all time. That's all I need to know. If it doesn't fit on my shelf, I'll put it on my mantle, or put the discs in a binder, or whatever. I can't imagine box art ever influencing my decision to purchase a movie.

Well said, though personally I love the packaging. :) Just have to start saving now...

philnerd
04-24-09, 06:49 AM
but the MSRP for this show is ridiculous, and the Amazon.com price isn't much of an improvement. $50 per season seems reasonable, and that would put the MSRP at $200. Take off 30% at Amazon and it becomes a more manageable (and palatable) $140.


The MSRP for the 4.0 DVD (that's *half* a season) is $50. When 4.5 comes out it'll likely be $50. That's $100 MSRP for the latest season on DVD.

2.0 and 2.5 are at the same price points.

Season 1 and 3 on DVD MSRP for $60 each.

Season 1 on HD DVD carried a $100 MSRP and it wasn't anywhere near a day and date release.


Now I think that *all* these seasons are overpriced. But within the context of what Universal has been/is charging for BSG on home video, the price point for the BD set is right in line, and in fact perhaps a bit lower than I'd expected. I'm sure this will get a 50% off price point after the intial "gotta have it" collectors buy in, and that'll put this at a somewhat reasonable $175 or so. If I've got the money to burn I'll be buying in at that price point.

Deviation
04-24-09, 08:45 AM
Universal sucks at packaging. Surprisingly enough Warner, even with all the junk, gets packaging right.Warner? Warner can't even make Blu-ray sized packages for their special editions. HBO, on the other hand, has done a much better job.

TyrantII
04-24-09, 10:17 AM
Didn't we already go over the $$/hour of entertainment?

While not the cheapest, it isn't the most expensive either. For the content alone, it's a pretty good deal right off the back. As always, wait and it'll drop if it isn't you're sweet spot yet.

If my purchase helps BSG be more profitable, and thus gives the suits @ syfy (ugh) to greenlight similar risky, artistic, good projects in the future, then I‘m happy. It's worth it to me, as I do think it's the best SciFi series I've seen to date.

JBlacklow
04-24-09, 11:05 AM
I will never understand the obsession that people have with packaging. I swear to the Cylon's one true god that we're getting to a point where people will no longer care what's on the disc itself as long as the cover art is pretty and it comes in a case that's the same size as all the other cases.

Seriously, we're talking about containers. What difference does it make? This is a box which contains probably the best TV show of all time. That's all I need to know. If it doesn't fit on my shelf, I'll put it on my mantle, or put the discs in a binder, or whatever. I can't imagine box art ever influencing my decision to purchase a movie.*cough*

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1141722

If you think it's bad now...

Rigby Reardon
04-24-09, 12:13 PM
I will never understand the obsession that people have with packaging.I think there is a difference between obsession with packaging and complaining about a ginormous useless box that doesn't fit anywhere. :)
If it doesn't fit on my shelf, I'll put it on my mantle, or put the discs in a binder, or whatever.Íf I pay $250-$350 for a boxset, I shouldn't have to tinker with some DIY alternative packaging. Just give me the damn discs in standard boxes and I'm fine ...

rolltide1017
04-24-09, 01:46 PM
I don't understand why studios think we need these elaborate boxes with hidden spaces and things that fold out or slide up and toys inside. Do they really think that someone who doesn't care for BSG will see the box and toy and decide to drop $250 on it? It's like they are trying to justify the high price by dressing it up nice. "We know it is expensive but, look at this nice box and toy!"

ThumperII
04-24-09, 02:11 PM
Answered your own question. It works...see above.

Deviation
04-24-09, 02:43 PM
Íf I pay $250-$350 for a boxset, I shouldn't have to tinker with some DIY alternative packaging. Just give me the damn discs in standard boxes and I'm fine ...
That sums it up pretty damned well.

dashielm
04-24-09, 04:00 PM
i'm guessing though if sci-fi, sorry syfy, had released this set in standard blu-ray cases people would bitch and moan about that.

i actually start to feel sorry for the studios when reading these threads; unless they release a reference quality, maxed-out, bit-rate transfer with lossless sound, on one disc, with all versions of the movie available via seamless branching, extras worthy of the LOTR:EE discs, packaged extravagant collectors' box and a standard blu-ray case with an optional cardboard slipcase version and digital copy all for $19.99 and on the shelves next week, people seem to take it as a personal affront to their existence.

darkedgex
04-24-09, 04:16 PM
i'm guessing though if sci-fi, sorry syfy, had released this set in standard blu-ray cases people would bitch and moan about that.
Why would they bitch about that? That's the normal thing to do.

i actually start to feel sorry for the studios when reading these threads; unless they release a reference quality, maxed-out, bit-rate transfer with lossless sound, on one disc, with all versions of the movie available via seamless branching, extras worthy of the LOTR:EE discs, packaged extravagant collectors' box and a standard blu-ray case with an optional cardboard slipcase version and digital copy all for $19.99 and on the shelves next week, people seem to take it as a personal affront to their existence.
No way. I see way more threads and posts from people complaining about oddball packaging than I do about people wanting even more of the garbage. The sole exception to this? People wanting Steelbook editions of a movie. And that one I can at least understand (Steelbooks are cool, and mostly uniform from release to release, as oppose to odd shaped digipacks/cardboard holders/low quality packaging that's been dressed up). I can't understand, at all, why someone would want something that won't fit with the rest of their collection. Not all of us live in a mansion with infinite space or a mantle place devoid of actually important items (family photos, real mementos, etc).

I think for the average consumer something in a normal package would be far more palatable than something like this.

Rigby Reardon
04-24-09, 04:16 PM
i'm guessing though if sci-fi, sorry syfy, had released this set in standard blu-ray cases people would bitch and moan about that. Well, the solution is quite simple: Release both individual seasons in standard boxes and the über-deluxe-monsterbox-with-toy for people who like such things. It's not like this hasn't been done before. :p

mumbles3k
04-24-09, 05:03 PM
What do you guys do with your book collections? I have a 3-volume dictionary and a pamphlet-sized Major League Baseball rulebook. Never once have I thought, "Man, if only those two books were the same size..." Do all of your DVDs need to be on your DVD shelf? Can't one be located on a bookshelf?

erkq
04-24-09, 05:19 PM
What do you guys do with your book collections? I have a 3-volume dictionary and a pamphlet-sized Major League Baseball rulebook. Never once have I thought, "Man, if only those two books were the same size..." Do all of your DVDs need to be on your DVD shelf? Can't one be located on a bookshelf?

Well, not a great analogy. I'm sure you wouldn't want your 3-volume dictionary to be the same size as your pamphlet-sized Major League Baseball rulebook. The difference with all this disk packaging hoo-ha is the medium is exactly the same size!

mumbles3k
04-24-09, 07:27 PM
I see what you're saying. But my point was that you wouldn't deprive yourself of a good book just because of its size. Why should you deprive yourself of a good TV show for that reason, especially when there are plenty of alternatives to storing it on your DVD shelf? You just have to think outside of the box (literally).

darkedgex
04-24-09, 08:39 PM
I see what you're saying. But my point was that you wouldn't deprive yourself of a good book just because of its size. Why should you deprive yourself of a good TV show for that reason, especially when there are plenty of alternatives to storing it on your DVD shelf? You just have to think outside of the box (literally).
Why are you placing the effort of resolving this on the consumer? It's the company making these products that have the responsibility of making their product attractive to audiences. If I pay good money for something it stands to reason it shouldn't be on some oddball packaging that won't fit with the remainder of my collection.

I agree with a prior poster who notes that a simple solution is to offer this title in two forms: one in this bizarre packaging for those whose want it, and another package for those who want something standardized.

As an aside, another reason to resist these strange packaging choices is that it likely cost the studio more to create this and produce this. I'm not interested in encouraging this kind of thing with my hard earned dollars.

mumbles3k
04-24-09, 09:17 PM
Why are you placing the effort of resolving this on the consumer?

My whole point is that there's nothing to resolve. I don't see this as being a problem one way or the other.

It's the company making these products that have the responsibility of making their product attractive to audiences.

True. But to me, the content is what makes this product so attractive. This thing has 60+ hours of 4-star quality television with commentaries on nearly every episode, as well as extensive supplements. They got all of that stuff right. Isn't that what's really important? What's actually on the discs themselves?

As an aside, another reason to resist these strange packaging choices is that it likely cost the studio more to create this and produce this. I'm not interested in encouraging this kind of thing with my hard earned dollars.

True, but I'd argue that the flip side of this, as another poster has suggested, is supporting such risky and high quality content with your hard earned dollars in an effort to encourage more daring and innovative programming. I'd much rather support quality programming than protest crappy packaging.

dashielm
04-25-09, 09:50 AM
Why would they bitch about that? That's the normal thing to do.


No way. I see way more threads and posts from people complaining about oddball packaging than I do about people wanting even more of the garbage. The sole exception to this? People wanting Steelbook editions of a movie. And that one I can at least understand (Steelbooks are cool, and mostly uniform from release to release, as oppose to odd shaped digipacks/cardboard holders/low quality packaging that's been dressed up). I can't understand, at all, why someone would want something that won't fit with the rest of their collection. Not all of us live in a mansion with infinite space or a mantle place devoid of actually important items (family photos, real mementos, etc).

I think for the average consumer something in a normal package would be far more palatable than something like this.

my point was there isn't one "perfect" release of a movie that's going to satisfy everyone, every time. it just seems when a studio does release something there's always these very vocal segment that seems personally offended. wether it's dnr on the dark knight, standard editions on lotr or whacky packaging here on bsg. for everyone that doesn't like this packaging there's another person who's thrilled at getting something unique.

and having two releases isn't really a great option as it increases the cost of both even if the discs are identical. two lines of packaging, two skus, extra shelf/storage space at retailers who have to guess stock levels for two products.

my personal preference is for un-compromised audio and video. standard packaging and a reasonable price. nine times out of ten i don't care about director's commentaries, extras, deleted scenes, but i'm not going to get all bitter and twisted because a studio doesn't release something exactly the way i want it.

bplewis24
04-25-09, 01:39 PM
my point was there isn't one "perfect" release of a movie that's going to satisfy everyone, every time. it just seems when a studio does release something there's always these very vocal segment that seems personally offended.

I'm not personally offended by this nor by New Line/Warner releasing only the Theatrical Cuts of LOTR. However, I'm perfectly okay with the Theatrical-to-Extended/Director's cut eventual double-dip, but I do not like it when a studio only releases a super-duper collector's edition of a movie/series.

Collector's editions should always supplement a standard release, IMO. I didn't like it with Casablanca on blu, and I don't like it here. Some people just want the movies at a lower price, without the swag.

Brandon

ryoohki
04-25-09, 09:21 PM
I'm not personally offended by this nor by New Line/Warner releasing only the Theatrical Cuts of LOTR. However, I'm perfectly okay with the Theatrical-to-Extended/Director's cut eventual double-dip, but I do not like it when a studio only releases a super-duper collector's edition of a movie/series.

Collector's editions should always supplement a standard release, IMO. I didn't like it with Casablanca on blu, and I don't like it here. Some people just want the movies at a lower price, without the swag.

Brandon

There's a difference between a 60$ Coll ed of One MOVIE and a 61$ Per seasons (that's like 10 movies + hours of time per season). I mean even Lost cost more than that. Even HBO Band of Brother cost that and it's 10 Episodes!

Pagali
04-26-09, 11:53 AM
Now announced for pre-order at Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Edward-James-Olmos/dp/B001993Y2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1240760004&sr=1-1

erkq
04-26-09, 12:34 PM
Now announced for pre-order at Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Edward-James-Olmos/dp/B001993Y2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1240760004&sr=1-1

You're a nooobie to this thread! :) That link was posted back at #114. But we appreciate your effort.

gorthocar
05-01-09, 07:33 AM
Today the BSG BD collection is listed in my Amazon Gold Box "Quick Picks" at $233 vs their normal preorder price of $245; it may be there for you today as well. Still wondering if I want to double dip on the whole series because I already have season 1 on HD DVD and 2&3 on standard dvd.

Pugnax555
05-01-09, 07:48 AM
Today the BSG BD collection is listed in my Amazon Gold Box "Quick Picks" at $233 vs their normal preorder price of $245; it may be there for you today as well. Still wondering if I want to double dip on the whole series because I already have season 1 on HD DVD and 2&3 on standard dvd.

The Quick Picks are based on your individual shopping/rating/wish list history. But there are ways to manipulate the system to get items you want to show up there.

Rutgar
05-01-09, 11:18 AM
On Amazon's site, it say July 28th for the release of this set. But I just got an email saying I won't receive it until August 10th - 14th. What's up with that? :mad:

bplewis24
05-01-09, 11:50 AM
Do you order much from Amazon? They are very conservative in their delivery estimates (especially for pre-orders). I usually receive pre-order items several days before their estimate.

Obviously that's not guaranteed. But that's the cost of "free" shipping, right? ;)

Brandon

Rutgar
05-01-09, 12:34 PM
I order quite a bit. And I always choose the free shipping. And like you, I usually get my stuff in a very timely manner. But this is nearly 2 weeks after the release date. Then again, I've never really paid any attention to when they say the stuff would arrive, vs. when it actually arrived.

stumlad
05-01-09, 01:51 PM
I order quite a bit. And I always choose the free shipping. And like you, I usually get my stuff in a very timely manner. But this is nearly 2 weeks after the release date. Then again, I've never really paid any attention to when they say the stuff would arrive, vs. when it actually arrived.

They usually say 10-14 days for super saver shipping so it does not sound terribly off.

rdclark
05-01-09, 02:48 PM
One of the reasons they can offer SS shipping is that the estimates are so long that they don't have to spend CS resources on "where's my package" complaints.

While I almost always get my SS packages within a week, often less, they have occasionally taken the full two weeks. Especially with large, heavy, or oddly shaped boxes.

paku
05-14-09, 07:18 AM
The box for theUK version of BSG (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/9732597/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/Product.html) looks to be some kind of tin, and is quite different from the US one. May not be as classy, but it's probably much more compact, which is a plus in my book.

seggers
05-14-09, 07:58 AM
The box for theUK version of BSG (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/9732597/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/Product.html) looks to be some kind of tin, and is quite different from the US one. May not be as classy, but it's probably much more compact, which is a plus in my book.

I signed up for this. I hope it's a region free release, and that it's not too much difference in $s.

Seggers

rolltide1017
05-14-09, 08:22 AM
The box for thehttp://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?mpt=88680810&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=4&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 UK version of BSG (http://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=1418&awinaffid=85386&clickref=&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.play.com%2FDVD%2FBlu-ray%2F4-%2F9732597%2FBattlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series%2FProduct.html) looks to be some kind of tin, and is quite different from the US one. May not be as classy, but it's probably much more compact, which is a plus in my book.
Now that is a much more sensible design then the ugly thing they came up with for the US release.

Deviation
05-14-09, 08:53 AM
Now that is a much more sensible design then the ugly thing they came up with for the US release.I wouldn't call the US release ugly (in fact, I'd say it looks much classier than this UK release)... it just won't fit on a shelf and I've got nowhere to put the damned thing.

stumlad
05-14-09, 11:07 PM
Now that is a much more sensible design then the ugly thing they came up with for the US release.

hahah the UK release looks like a toaster! That's pretty cool! I can't tell whether or not i like the box design of the US release because I cant figure out how it is organized.

vläd
05-15-09, 12:55 AM
Have you guys noticed that Amazon changed the July 28th date to no announced date?

diehardz
05-15-09, 01:20 AM
Well said, though personally I love the packaging. http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k08t1221bbuq/gdsmile.gif Just have to start saving now...

Packaging have no problem with me too.
But many were not satisfied to it.

shadowrage
05-15-09, 01:23 AM
I signed up for this. I hope it's a region free release, and that it's not too much difference in $s.

Seggers
Heroes is coming out soon in the UK, so those would be a good measuring stick to see if the Uni TV BDs are region free. They also cost less than the US versions...last time I checked. Fingers crossed this BSG release follows suit.

I kind of like the UK box with that Centurion. Might look too much like a mini-fridge though.

I'm still upset Uni didn't use my Battlestar and/or Pilot Survival kit(with dog tags and maps/manuals, woulda been sweet) idea for boxing.:(

IanD
05-15-09, 05:42 AM
IIRC, the HD-DVD version of Season 1 had different theme music (plus I think slightly different extras) depending on which region it was purchased from.

If the Bluray version follows a similar practice, would this make a difference to your purchasing decision?

One can only hope that the studios include both versions, regardless of region.

TyrantII
05-15-09, 11:07 AM
IIRC, the HD-DVD version of Season 1 had different theme music (plus I think slightly different extras) depending on which region it was purchased from.

If the Bluray version follows a similar practice, would this make a difference to your purchasing decision?

One can only hope that the studios include both versions, regardless of region.

The US season 1 had a different opening cinema/music, then 2-4.5 they used the UK original opening. So my guess is that be the only difference, the UK opening in season 1.

cobolisdead
05-15-09, 11:37 AM
I like the UK tin, but I think I'll probably stick with the US release.

mumbles3k
05-15-09, 01:05 PM
IIRC, the HD-DVD version of Season 1 had different theme music (plus I think slightly different extras) depending on which region it was purchased from.

If the Bluray version follows a similar practice, would this make a difference to your purchasing decision?

One can only hope that the studios include both versions, regardless of region.

Absolutely. If the American version doesn't have the right music and the UK version does, I'm buying the UK version.

dstewart
05-15-09, 01:58 PM
Absolutely. If the American version doesn't have the right music and the UK version does, I'm buying the UK version.

I actually liked the US S1 music/intro better (not that I feel strongly either way).

clemsonfn
05-18-09, 11:51 AM
Full details of the Blu-Ray set released.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11893

dstewart
05-18-09, 12:09 PM
Full details of the Blu-Ray set released.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11893

It looks like no "The Plan". I wasn't expecting it, but it would have been nice to have it all in one box.

stumlad
05-19-09, 01:28 AM
Full details of the Blu-Ray set released.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Battlestar-Galactica-The-Complete-Series/11893

Based on this, it appears to be the following.. though it's too hard to be exact:
Disc 1: Mini-series

Disc 2-4: Season 1, 13 eps

Disc 6-10: Season 2, 20 eps

Disc 11-14: Season 3, including webisodes between S2&S3 (19 eps)

Disc 15: Razor (unrated/extended, and broadcast)

Disc 16-20: Season 4 (20 eps)

scowl
05-19-09, 11:59 AM
It definitely includes Razor?

Pugnax555
05-19-09, 12:22 PM
It definitely includes Razor?
In the full set breakdown, disc 15 is listed as "Battlestar Galactica: Razor". You tell us if it's included or not...

RDarrylR
05-19-09, 01:15 PM
So still no Canadian pricing that i've seen. Has anyone else spotted the Cdn MSRP? I don't see it listed on amazon.ca yet either.

HDMe2
05-19-09, 02:36 PM
I was expecting everything from Mini-to-Finale, that means Razor + Regular/Extended versions of Pegasus & the last 2 episodes (I believe both of those had extended versions advertised).

I was half-hoping for "The Plan" but didn't figure it would happen since that one hasn't aired yet.... As long as they eventually release that on Blu (unlike what they have done with Caprica thus far) I have no problem buying the complete + The Plan later.

Of course I'll be waiting on a good sale to pick up the whole set :)

scowl
05-20-09, 11:41 AM
In the full set breakdown, disc 15 is listed as "Battlestar Galactica: Razor". You tell us if it's included or not...

How about I'll tell you when it ships.

JJ79
05-23-09, 05:42 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not seeing the Face of the Enemy webisodes included on the set...?

JakiChan
05-31-09, 04:11 AM
I've read that they're on there. Man, Watchmen and BSG on July 28th? I better take some vacation days...

HDMe2
05-31-09, 02:55 PM
While I would like to see all the Webisodes on there as well...

to be fair, the "complete series" would not have to include them.

Why, you ask?

Because IF they were truly required viewing for the complete series, then they'd have aired them on TV.

The fact that they put them on the Web, where some segment of the viewership never saw (and perhaps never knew about) them... says they couldn't have been deemed important.

I also seem to have read somewhere that the production crew wasn't 100% pleased with having to do the Webisodes as they didn't get paid to do them like the rest of the series... they were sort of strongarmed into it and didn't see any Web-generated revenue... but I digress.

I watched the Webisodes from between season 2 and season 3, and those were good. I did not watch the next batch of Webisodes at all, and I can't say I felt like anything was missing... but I surely would like to watch them, which is why I too hope they are included... but I won't see the "complete" set as "incomplete" if they aren't there.

JakiChan
05-31-09, 05:32 PM
Because IF they were truly required viewing for the complete series, then they'd have aired them on TV.

Maybe, but they're canon. So I'm glad they are on there (and I've seen elsewhere that they are).

I also seem to have read somewhere that the production crew wasn't 100% pleased with having to do the Webisodes as they didn't get paid to do them like the rest of the series... they were sort of strongarmed into it and didn't see any Web-generated revenue... but I digress.

That was one of the reasons behind the writers strike. Now they get revenue from things like that.

I did not watch the next batch of Webisodes at all, and I can't say I felt like anything was missing

I would disagree. You missed a lot. Why did Gaeta mutiny? Yeah, the webisodes told you.

HDMe2
06-01-09, 07:35 PM
I would disagree. You missed a lot. Why did Gaeta mutiny? Yeah, the webisodes told you.

The Webisodes I did watch from after season 2 were good... so I have no doubt they did a similarly good job on the ones I didn't see.

BUT

The story was not crafted in such a way that I was "lost" and didn't know why Gaeta mutinied. It seemed pretty clear to me, watching the series, that he could have many reasons for being motivated... not the least of which was losing his leg and seeing the cylons being embraced and offered more respect than he seemed to get.

I gather watching the Webisodes give additional insight... but "additional" is the key word to me.

IF they crafted a story where the Webisodes were required, then that was a disservice to the TV viewer. The Webisodes should ADD to the story, not fill in gaps.

So I'll be happy to watch and hope they are there... but wouldn't feel ripped off if they were missing.

bferr1
06-02-09, 11:57 AM
Maybe the missing webisodes will be made available as a BD-Live extra, or maybe as a mail-in offer for a disc version?

Pugnax555
06-02-09, 12:34 PM
Maybe the missing webisodes will be made available as a BD-Live extra, or maybe as a mail-in offer for a disc version?

I ordered/downloaded mine from the Amazon video download service. They were free and seemed to be the best quality version that was available at the time. I'm not sure if they're still available anymore, though (can't check from work).

gorthocar
06-03-09, 07:47 AM
I'm curious if some of the season 1 HD DVD issues will be cleaned up in this release. In some scenes in some episodes, there were very bad lip sync issues. And more annoyingly, some camera shots must have had a little dust or debris on the lense so that it looked like you had a couple of dead pixels on your TV. It is probably too early for anybody to have an early copy to check. If it still is an issue, it is virtually impossible to miss.

Jedi2016
06-14-09, 12:08 AM
I saw something today that was a bit disconcerting... it was a technical article written by one of the show's VFX artists, that included screen captures of the software, even some settings that they used. And it looks like the native rendering resolution of the VFX shots is only 1280x720.

So is this being upscaled or what?

eric.exe
06-14-09, 12:20 AM
Blu-ray Battlestar Galactica Single Season Sets in August - http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Blu-ray_Battlestar_Galactica_Single_Season_Sets_in_August/4988

shadowrage
06-14-09, 01:07 AM
I saw something today that was a bit disconcerting... it was a technical article written by one of the show's VFX artists, that included screen captures of the software, even some settings that they used. And it looks like the native rendering resolution of the VFX shots is only 1280x720.

So is this being upscaled or what?
The CG looked fine on the HD-DVD, most times approaching the quality of a full length feature.
BTW - Was it just me or did the final season's CG work look a little more "CG" compared to earlier seasons?

I'm curious if some of the season 1 HD DVD issues will be cleaned up in this release. In some scenes in some episodes, there were very bad lip sync issues. And more annoyingly, some camera shots must have had a little dust or debris on the lense so that it looked like you had a couple of dead pixels on your TV. It is probably too early for anybody to have an early copy to check. If it still is an issue, it is virtually impossible to miss.
How can you tell there is dust on the lens, when the picture was tweaked so much?:p

Jedi2016
06-14-09, 05:08 PM
The CG looked fine on the HD-DVD, most times approaching the quality of a full length feature.
I read in more detail, the guy points out that they upscaled it to 1080p during post, so it seems the actual episode masters are 1080p. As the writer puts it, it was done to give it an intentionally softer look so it didn't look like picture-perfect CG, but I think it's more just the production cutting corners to get the shots out in time (720p renders a lot faster). While their renders may have cut corners, the models didn't. I've seen the Galactica digital model in detail, it's jaw-droppingly incredible.

BTW - Was it just me or did the final season's CG work look a little more "CG" compared to earlier seasons?
I actually missed most of the show, barely saw into the second season. But I liked it enough to buy this set when it's released. To answer your question, though, it seems they change their VFX supervisors like the rest of us change our underwear, so there's bound to be some inconsistency over time.

Nays
06-14-09, 05:44 PM
Oh Jedi I didnt know you visited this forum to. Nice to see ya. :)

peterlee
06-14-09, 06:28 PM
The single season sets continues the shameful price gouging. They're priced retail at $112 a piece. Even with Amazon's customary 30% discount, it would cost MORE to buy all four seasons individually than to buy the complete series set, even though you're leaving out the crappy toy and nuisance packaging. Even season 1, which only had 13 episodes, is priced the same as the other seasons, which had 7-8 additional episodes. Compare that with the imminent release of Lost seasons 1 and 2, which had 24 and 23 episodes respectively, and which cost a hell of a lot more to make than Battlestar, yet Disney is pricing them at $70 suggested price ($50 after the usual discounts).

I was a fan of the show but it looks like I will stay with my DVD versions. No way will I support Universal's pricing practices.

bassmonkeee
06-14-09, 06:42 PM
The single season sets continues the shameful price gouging. They're priced retail at $112 a piece. Even with Amazon's customary 30% discount, it would cost MORE to buy all four seasons individually than to buy the complete series set, even though you're leaving out the crappy toy and nuisance packaging. Even season 1, which only had 13 episodes, is priced the same as the other seasons, which had 7-8 additional episodes. Compare that with the imminent release of Lost seasons 1 and 2, which had 24 and 23 episodes respectively, and which cost a hell of a lot more to make than Battlestar, yet Disney is pricing them at $70 suggested price ($50 after the usual discounts).

I was a fan of the show but it looks like I will stay with my DVD versions. No way will I support Universal's pricing practices.

I'm sure the advertising rates charged during Lost were many times what it cost to advertise during Battlestar, too. So, I'm not really sure the point of Lost is valid when it comes to "how much to make" vs "how much to charge."

qz3fwd
06-14-09, 07:09 PM
Yes expensive, but it was just a few years ago that this show got me back to watching broadcast tv vie OTA & Cable. I relished the friday night episodes, even during Season 1 on SciFi when it was still crappy SD quality.

I'll be pitching the big square outer packaging and just keeping the inner normally sized individual season cases so that it fits on my shelves along with the rest of my collection.

jillbrazil
06-14-09, 10:02 PM
I've read that they're on there. Man, Watchmen and BSG on July 28th? I better take some vacation days...

I'm collecting unemployment currently so my plan is too skip the month of august and find myself some diapers or a catheter.;)

Jason One
06-15-09, 01:10 AM
To answer your question, though, it seems they change their VFX supervisors like the rest of us change our underwear, so there's bound to be some inconsistency over time.
Gary Hutzel was the visual effects supervisor for the entire series.

Cap.T
06-15-09, 01:20 AM
Gary Hutzel was the visual effects supervisor for the entire series.

Yes, that's right. For Seasons One and Two they used Zoic and Atmosphere for the FX. After that Hutzel and his team did the effects themselves "in house".

cobolisdead
06-15-09, 09:24 AM
The single season sets continues the shameful price gouging. They're priced retail at $112 a piece. Even with Amazon's customary 30% discount, it would cost MORE to buy all four seasons individually than to buy the complete series set, even though you're leaving out the crappy toy and nuisance packaging. Even season 1, which only had 13 episodes, is priced the same as the other seasons, which had 7-8 additional episodes. Compare that with the imminent release of Lost seasons 1 and 2, which had 24 and 23 episodes respectively, and which cost a hell of a lot more to make than Battlestar, yet Disney is pricing them at $70 suggested price ($50 after the usual discounts).

I was a fan of the show but it looks like I will stay with my DVD versions. No way will I support Universal's pricing practices.


Yeah, I don't think I will get the individual season either. I liked the idea of saving up for the boxset and getting it on Black Friday when its priced at a reasonable level.

Matt_Stevens
06-15-09, 11:50 AM
The show had the best vfx of any TV program in history. Too bad I am not richand simply cannot afford to purchase this set. :(

bferr1
06-15-09, 12:02 PM
BD box art posted here: http://www.thehdroom.com/news/First_Look_Blu-ray_Battlestar_Galactica_Complete_Series_Packaging/4980

seggers
06-15-09, 01:08 PM
Well, if that's the real US release box art then I might be more inclined to buy the US version.

Seggers

rdgrimes
06-15-09, 01:24 PM
BD box art posted here: http://www.thehdroom.com/news/First_Look_Blu-ray_Battlestar_Galactica_Complete_Series_Packaging/4980

<rant>
What a frakking joke! Where am I supposed to put that monstrosity on my media shelf? I'll be willing to pay 2x the price just to have each season in it's own standard packaging rather than try to deal with this crap. KISS
</rant>

erkq
06-15-09, 01:36 PM
<rant>
What a frakking joke! Where am I supposed to put that monstrosity on my media shelf? I'll be willing to pay 2x the price just to have each season in it's own standard packaging rather than try to deal with this crap. KISS
</rant>
Just throw it away. I'm capable of putting the packaging in the garbage to save on a complete set over individual seasons. Aren't you? What's all this angst over packaging? That's what garbage cans are for!

HDMe2
06-15-09, 02:42 PM
I think a lot of people don't know that BSG was meant to look like a documentary. The creators wanted it to look like you were watching someone reporting on what was actually happening... rather than a slick/high-res sci-fi production.

That said, there at LOTs of great HD stuff in the show... but it might make sense to have rendered at 720p and "convert" to 1080p to help achieve a similar effect that they were trying to capture with how they shot the live-action.

bferr1
06-15-09, 02:43 PM
<rant>
What a frakking joke! Where am I supposed to put that monstrosity on my media shelf? I'll be willing to pay 2x the price just to have each season in it's own standard packaging rather than try to deal with this crap. KISS
</rant>You CAN remove the four season boxes from within, you know.

rdgrimes
06-15-09, 05:19 PM
You CAN remove the four season boxes from within, you know.

Obviously. I just think it's ugly, cheesy and needlessly expensive to add all the crap. I resist supporting this type of marketing kitsch. The series deserves better.

peterlee
06-15-09, 06:34 PM
You CAN remove the four season boxes from within, you know.

If you look on the Amazon page for the complete set, you can see what the boxes inside the case look like. They all have the same exact artwork. Although the box art for the standalone seasons has not been revealed, I think it's highly unlikely they will have the same undifferentiated appearance. It seems to me that the boxes in the complete series set were clearly designed to be stored in the case; I don't think they will look particularly good standing alone on a shelf.

Yes, everyone can throw away the case and the Earth won't spin off its axis. But I think it says something about the success of a case design when the first impulse is to throw it away. I think the complete series set is not only strikingly ugly but also a nuisance even if you want to keep the case. Accessing a disc means taking this contraption off the shelf and removing the top, then unseating the individual season box, etc. etc. What ever happened to good old fashion ergonomics and ease of use? Talk about Rube Goldberg over-engineering by packaging designers who have completely ignored actually having to live with their creation. At the risk of drawing too much inference from this one thing, the choice to design something like this seems to indicate Universal thinks Battlestar fans are like Star Trek fans who have been blessed/cursed with kitschy phaser or tricorder-shaped boxes. I could do with less kitsch and Cylon Happy Meal toys in favor of just a straightforward case.

rdgrimes
06-15-09, 06:39 PM
It seems to me that the boxes in the complete series set were clearly designed to be stored in the case; I don't think they will look particularly good standing along on a shelf.



They'd look better than the ugly box that doesn't even allow you to select a season without removing it from the shelf. Assuming it fits on the shelf in the first place, which it won't. Color me pissed. :mad:

erkq
06-15-09, 06:48 PM
the choice to design something like this seems to indicate Universal thinks Battlestar fans are like Star Trek fans who have been blessed/cursed with kitschy phaser or tricorder-shaped boxes.

Fortunately the Star Trek franchise has reversed course. The 1-6 movie collection is a very attractive, svelt package.

bferr1
06-15-09, 07:55 PM
If you look on the Amazon page for the complete set, you can see what the boxes inside the case look like.Isn't it possible that's just temp artwork?

Suzuki201
06-15-09, 08:43 PM
Me too, being jobless sucks and diapers are damn expensive :)



I'm collecting unemployment currently so my plan is too skip the month of august and find myself some diapers or a catheter.;) http://www.**********************/track/img/3358/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif

jillbrazil
06-15-09, 09:12 PM
Especially in my size. Try to see this August the way Burgess Meredith did in that episode of the Twilight Zone "Time Enough at Last". Yeah I know the power will go out during one of my BSG marathons. We get rolling blackouts here every summer

Ghostface1701
06-15-09, 10:04 PM
I guess I must be one of the few who love the box design. I love this series, and I'm always trying to get others to watch it, so I like that the box set calls attention to itself :)

erkq
06-15-09, 10:32 PM
Especially in my size. Try to see this August the way Burgess Meredith did in that episode of the Twilight Zone "Time Enough at Last". Yeah I know the power will go out during one of my BSG marathons. We get rolling blackouts here every summer

My whole house generator helps with that. We get rolling blackouts in the winter. It's called "downed power lines."

Nimo
06-16-09, 10:34 PM
I'll take the US version just break up the packaging and shelf the box sets. Looks perfect for archiving on the shelf. At 236.99 it comes to 11.89 which is decent...:rolleyes: but I'll hold out for a sale it could only get cheaper.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/freedombikesusa/bsgbd.jpg?t=1245209353

Stinky-Dinkins
06-17-09, 12:17 AM
Yes, everyone can throw away the case and the Earth won't spin off its axis.

I don't know about that. What if everyone in the world buys one and they all throw it out their windows at the exact same time?

Now I'm a little nervous about this, you've got me all nervous again.

txfilmguy
06-17-09, 10:37 AM
I don't know about that. What if everyone in the world buys one and they all throw it out their windows at the exact same time?

Now I'm a little nervous about this, you've got me all nervous again.

You're on the right track, but this will only work if everyone in the Western hemisphere throws the boxes out their windows at the exact same time, and then the Eastern Hemisphere does it exactly 12 hours later.

TyrantII
06-17-09, 10:41 AM
The single season sets continues the shameful price gouging. They're priced retail at $112 a piece. Even with Amazon's customary 30% discount, it would cost MORE to buy all four seasons individually than to buy the complete series set, even though you're leaving out the crappy toy and nuisance packaging. Even season 1, which only had 13 episodes, is priced the same as the other seasons, which had 7-8 additional episodes. Compare that with the imminent release of Lost seasons 1 and 2, which had 24 and 23 episodes respectively, and which cost a hell of a lot more to make than Battlestar, yet Disney is pricing them at $70 suggested price ($50 after the usual discounts).

I was a fan of the show but it looks like I will stay with my DVD versions. No way will I support Universal's pricing practices.

Isn't that how those things usually work? I'm surprised you're surprised.

txfilmguy
06-17-09, 10:49 AM
BD box art posted here: http://www.thehdroom.com/news/First_Look_Blu-ray_Battlestar_Galactica_Complete_Series_Packaging/4980

Looks alright, except for that blaring misplaced apostrophe on the Time Magazine blurb, "One of the best drama's (sic) on TV"

I know, nobody hired me for the grammar police job, but it's a pet peeve.

bferr1
06-17-09, 10:57 AM
Looks alright, except for that blaring misplaced apostrophe on the Time Magazine blurb, "One of the best drama's (sic) on TV"

I know, nobody hired me for the grammar police job, but it's a pet peeve.Even more evidence that this is temp artwork and not final?

peterlee
06-17-09, 12:43 PM
Isn't that how those things usually work? I'm surprised you're surprised.

No it's not how it usually works and what's really surprising is that you think it does. Peer studios like Disney, Warner, Fox have all priced their TV Blu-ray releases at a reasonable price point. Lost, Supernatural, Sarah Connor Chronicles, Dollhouse, Smallville, to name just a few. Even Universal set one of its other sci-fi shows - Heroes - at a decent price. It's just Battlestar Blu-ray that has been singled out for this special "suck 'em dry!" treatment.

Even more evidence that this is temp artwork and not final?

It's highly unlikely it's temp art. A spelling error on a ribbon that wraps around the box is easily fixed; altering interior case artwork requires much more lead time and is fixed by now, with just over a month till release. The photo that shows the undifferentiated season boxes inside the case comes straight from Universal quite recently without any disclaimers that it's temporary and subject to change:

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/High-Res_Look_at_Battlestar_Galactica_The_Complete_Series_on_Blu-ray_and_DVD/4969

"Though Universal reps will no speak in detail about the figure other than to say it is "cool," they have released a new high resolution image of the DVD set (the Blu-ray version will look identical) complete with our Cylon friend. Viewing him at full size provides some clues."

bferr1
06-17-09, 01:05 PM
The photo that shows the undifferentiated season boxes inside the case comes straight from Universal without any disclaimers that it's temporary and subject to change.Undifferentiated on the front covers, but that photo shows the seasons are marked on the top panel of the each box. Whether or not that's true for the side panels remains to be seen, but I'd be surprised if they weren't.

peterlee
06-17-09, 01:19 PM
I'm sure the spine of the box will say season 1, 2, 3 or 4 - I don't think universal will expect the owner to guess or remember - but my point was that those boxes are pretty plain and undistinguished looking to be just standing on a shelf.

dysfunction26
06-17-09, 01:48 PM
Wow...4 seasons for $236, that is madness. Maybe $150 would be fair, are they trying to make BR flop? :confused:

txfilmguy
06-17-09, 04:57 PM
No it's not how it usually works and what's really surprising is that you think it does. Peer studios like Disney, Warner, Fox have all priced their TV Blu-ray releases at a reasonable price point. Lost, Supernatural, Sarah Connor Chronicles, Dollhouse, Smallville, to name just a few. Even Universal set one of its other sci-fi shows - Heroes - at a decent price. It's just Battlestar Blu-ray that has been singled out for this special "suck 'em dry!" treatment.
What is meant by "how it usually works," and the point of the post, is that box sets typically offer a discounted price compared to buying individually packed seasons. Granted, both are priced high, but his point is valid, just the same.