Hello all,wanting to get opinions on whether to buy fpj1 now or wait on hd8200.Will the hd8200 be better or not? Also will price be better on fpj1? My basement is ready and i am looking to use at least a 120 inch screen. Wish i could see some reviews on hd8200! thanks

hd8200 is already selling. If you can ceiling mount it, that what I would pick based on ansi, pop, motion handling, sharpness, lumens but might be more expensive. On/off and blacks are supposed to be on par with rs1 in other words, quite good.

Unfortunately it really can't be answered with a one is better than the other, by everything I've read, they are simply quite The Optoma, being a DLP will be better in bright scenes, the FPJ1 in dark. The Optoma will probably be a bit "sharper", probably have some "pop" that the FPJ1 might not. The Optoma has some newer processing features and less oversaturated colors than the FPJ1.

I'd read, (I think) mike infinity has a thread comparing the FPJ1 to the W5000, that should be a close comparison though the 8200 should be better than the W5000. And Mark Peterson has comments about the Optoma in it's thread and compares it to the JVCs.

Unfortunately it really can't be answered with a one is better than the other...
I'd read, (I think) mike infinity has a thread comparing the FPJ1 to the W5000....Well said! The current generation 1080p projectors are all so close that they are different rather than better. One almost has to see them to deceide which one is better for themself.

mike infinity is comparing a RS1 to the Benq W5000. The FPJ1 is a RS2 clone. At the current closeout price it is a steal.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1122407

Yeah, couldn't remember which machine he actually had, but the comparison is still valid IMO. The FPJ1 is "basically" an RS1 with better native contrast.

Yeah, couldn't remember which machine he actually had, but the comparison is still valid IMO. The FPJ1 is "basically" an RS1 with better native contrast.

It has double the native contrast, no bright corners, sharper, better gamma control, remote zoom and focus. It improves on an already great RS1 but still has it's faults: no CMS, not quiet like Mitsubishi projectors, etc. It is also not as bright as an RS1, which is very bright in it's optimal settings.

Something else to keep in mind is that JVC's last couple generations of LCoS projectors seem to have very few reliability issues. I'm sure one could chalk it up to JVC owners intrinsically whining less about problems than Optoma owners, but there are plenty of former Optoma owners here - including myself - who would be hard pressed to spend a significant amount of money on an Optoma projector given their reliability track record over the last couple years. I sincerely hope they manage to turn that reputation around because they used to make some outstanding equipment, but as it stands right now I'd say they have a lot of repair to do (no pun intended).

It has double the native contrast, no bright corners, sharper, better gamma control, remote zoom and focus. It improves on an already great RS1 but still has it's faults: no CMS, not quiet like Mitsubishi projectors, etc. It is also not as bright as an RS1, which is very bright in it's optimal settings.

I forget have you tried both?

Something else to keep in mind is that JVC's last couple generations of LCoS projectors seem to have very few reliability issues. I'm sure one could chalk it up to JVC owners intrinsically whining less about problems than Optoma owners, but there are plenty of former Optoma owners here - including myself - who would be hard pressed to spend a significant amount of money on an Optoma projector given their reliability track record over the last couple years. I sincerely hope they manage to turn that reputation around because they used to make some outstanding equipment, but as it stands right now I'd say they have a lot of repair to do (no pun intended).

Yeah, sadly reliability is what's got me researching again, though for me, not an Optoma, seems I got a bum W5000....

"It has double the native contrast, no bright corners, sharper, better gamma control, remote zoom and focus."

That sounds like the RS10; I thought the Pioneer was an RS2.

"It has double the native contrast, no bright corners, sharper, better gamma control, remote zoom and focus."

That sounds like the RS10; I thought the Pioneer was an RS2.

RobZ,

Sounds about right to me... And, the Pioneer is an RS2...;)

and robz is right about the RS2's characteristics, which also apply to an RS10 (though an RS10 is brighter than an RS2)

and robz is right about the RS2's characteristics, which also apply to an RS10 (though an RS10 is brighter than an RS2)Is the RS10 brighter than the RS2 in best contrast mode? The RS2 gets 30K:1 @ 600 lumens, the RS10 22K:1 @ < 400 lumens?

Is the RS10 brighter than the RS2 in best contrast mode? The RS2 gets 30K:1 @ 600 lumens, the RS10 22K:1 @ < 400 lumens?

No. The best I have gotten on the RS10 was 33k:1 at about 400 lumens (on a whole they are less contrast than that, but about the same light output). The RS2's typically were 25k:1-28k:1 at 600 or so lumens.

Jason,
Are these numbers on high or normal lamp setting. I am interested in calibrated numbers for the lower lamp mode as I plan on this setting to keep the fan noise as low as possible.