View Full Version : So Warner now supports CBHD (CH DVD) which is almost HD DVD?


Everdog
03-02-09, 05:03 PM
No, they won't play in your player. But its pretty much the same thing as HD DVD. They use a different codec that is patented by the Chinese.

A few days ago, recorded Warner Home Entertainment Co., Ltd. Managing Director Fang Lin (Tony Vaughan) announced that Warner Bros. Entertainment Company will be issued in China Chinese independent high-definition format - the Blu-ray high-definition (CBHD) video programming.

Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema Department of the many masterpieces in the first half of 2009 for the first time in high definition format available in China, including the popular "Harry Potter", "Golden Compass", "Speed racing", "Blood Diamond" and so on. Previously, Warner Brothers has issued a global BD Blu-ray format movies, and thus in China, consumers can not only buy these films CBHD version can also buy their BD Blu-ray version.

"These large areas of unusually high-definition picture quality and sound will be the first to come to China." Fang Lin (Tony Vaughan) said, "Warner has been recorded for Chinese families to provide the most perfect home entertainment experience. This times, we will strive to support high-definition technology in China to implement to enable them to ordinary consumers as soon as possible to enter the Chinese family."

CBHD are in the information industry and, under the guidance of the Department, by the Engineering Research Center of Tsinghua University, CD-ROM (OMNERC) synergy Chinese consumer electronics manufacturing giant TCL, a new Branch, with the side of common development. Supporting this format also includes the domestic well-known Production and distribution companies, record labels such as Chinese Corporation, China Film Group and Huayi Brothers Company.

CBHD is a patented technology in domestic and foreign top one, the Chinese patent pool independently authorized 1080p Full HD optical storage format, suitable for ordinary Chinese consumer market. CBHD player market pricing for the initial 1999 yuan (about 290 U.S. dollars), a CBHD discs will be priced at 50-70 yuan range (about 7.25 to 10.15 U.S. dollars).

It is estimated that in 2009 China has a high-definition TV users will reach 27 million by 2010, will be rapidly increased to 47,000,000, and in 2011 reached 72 million.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15932219#post15932219

Comments?

vamovie
03-02-09, 05:12 PM
whats the codec and format they are using?

cobolisdead
03-02-09, 05:20 PM
Neat.

Everdog
03-02-09, 06:20 PM
From Wikipedia...
CBHD will use the AVS audio and video codec, owned by the Chinese government. CBHD's developers claim the format contains more copy protection features and is part of a big push by China to fight piracy as well as cut down on royalty payments for foreign patents

Richard Paul
03-02-09, 06:49 PM
CBHD has some major differences (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14421521&postcount=3782) compared to HD DVD. CBHD does not use the HDi interactive layer and instead uses the Chinese developed CECT. CBHD does not use the ESM modulation system and instead uses the Chinese developed FSM. CBHD does not support Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD, or DTS-HD MA. CBHD does not use AACS but instead uses the Chinese developed CDRM. There is a good amount of information on CBHD in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14428695) and this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1059383).

Everdog
03-02-09, 08:28 PM
CBHD has some major differences (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14421521&postcount=3782) compared to HD DVD. CBHD does not use the HDi interactive layer and instead uses the Chinese developed CECT. CBHD does not use the ESM modulation system and instead uses the Chinese developed FSM. CBHD does not support Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD, or DTS-HD MA. CBHD does not use AACS but instead uses the Chinese developed CDRM. There is a good amount of information on CBHD in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14428695) and this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1059383).

Isn't it ironic that the company that put the nail in the HD DVD coffin would be the first (that I have heard of) to support it's Chinese cousin? I thought the US studios did want to support 2 Blue laser formats?


btw, no HD DVD player will ever be able to support CBHD (without modification..OK maybe the 360 add-on attached to a PC), so I hope people do not get the wrong idea about this.

Quentin2
03-02-09, 08:47 PM
Well if Warner Fang Lin (Tony Vaughan) says it, then it must be true! :D

cobolisdead
03-02-09, 10:25 PM
It makes sense to push a completely different format there. Its the ultimate form of region coding. While it won't kill priacy and bootlegging, it will cut it down tremendously.

Sweet Humble Pie
03-03-09, 12:28 AM
These players and the much-cheaper discs will be available in every Chinatown and every flea market in North America within days of release on the Mainland.

cobolisdead
03-03-09, 10:26 AM
I wonder how much of an improvement over DVD they will have?

Everdog
03-03-09, 11:43 AM
I wonder how much of an improvement over DVD they will have?

Af first I thought they could just use the same encode as Blu-ray, but then I realized that they need to use the AVS audio and video codec owned by the Chinese government.

Richard Paul
03-03-09, 06:19 PM
Isn't it ironic that the company that put the nail in the HD DVD coffin would be the first (that I have heard of) to support it's Chinese cousin?It is a little ironic and it will be interesting to see how CBHD does in China. I would mention though that even with $89 players (http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070102PD202.html) the Chinese developed EVD format didn't do that well and that was with Chinese CE companies (representing 97% of the DVD manafacturing in China) stating that they would switch exclusively from DVD to EVD by 2008 (http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/12/06/chinese-manufacturers-prepared-to-switch-from-dvd-to-evd-in-08/).


I thought the US studios did want to support 2 Blue laser formats?Well supporting CBHD in the Chinese market is not the same thing as supporting two competing worldwide HD video formats.


Af first I thought they could just use the same encode as Blu-ray, but then I realized that they need to use the AVS audio and video codec owned by the Chinese government.Only time will tell what they will use but in terms of video codecs CBHD supports AVS-Video, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 AVC, and VC-1.

vamovie
03-05-09, 11:09 AM
whats the audia on these

gooki
03-06-09, 01:24 AM
Since they're using the AVS codec shouldn't we, the members of the AVS forum, receive some form of royalty?

Richard Paul
03-07-09, 12:03 AM
whats the audia on theseIn terms of audio codecs CBHD supports AVS-Audio, DRA, Dolby Digital, and LPCM.

vamovie
03-07-09, 09:51 AM
This format is so very competiton to.................................

















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