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steve perlowski 03-03-09, 04:26 PM I'm curious to know whether or not the various upscaling hdtvs, av receivers, etc. will routinely upscale VHS or S-VHS tapes that are connected via composite or S-video cables to those upscaling devices. For example, will the picture of a VCR (with composite cables) connected to a Pioneer SC-07 receiver with hdmi connections to a new Pioneer 60" hdtv, get "upscaled"? Thanks,
Allan Jayne 03-03-09, 04:50 PM All HDTV's upscale VHS and other composite or S-video sources to match the screen resolution.
A/V receivers that do upscaling generally do upscale the composite and S-video as well.
Still to this day, not all upscaling is created equal. Getting from 480i to 480p can vary widely in quality. You will have to read reviews or get word of mouth for which models are better. Getting from 480p to 720p or 1080i or 1080p is quite easy and the differences in quality are minor from one brand to another.
lsarver 03-03-09, 07:09 PM Since VHS carries only half the data of a normal 480i SD signal, don't expect miracles. Just as VHS can never look as good as DVD, upscaled VHS will never approach upscaled DVD.
Jason Turk 03-03-09, 09:06 PM Short answer....yes. Long answer:
In digital, the ONLY resolution that a digital display can output is the native pixel resolution of that display. For instance, a 1280x720 only outputs 1280x720. If any other resolution is fed into it (some limitations but that depends on the particular display)...480i, 480p, 1080i, etc... the display must scale the image to that said native resolution. A VHS VCR, though only 480i (and poor at best s/n ratio) is no exception.
But, as another said, don't expect much. Even the best video processors cannot make garbage look much better.
In regards to an audio processor...depends on the model. Older units and a small sampling of those still made, have no real processing built in. In that case they may just pass through the signal (in which case your display will still convert). However more and more the audio receivers are including processing which often will convert not only the resolution, but signal type (composite to HDMI in the case of VHS).
nashou66 03-04-09, 01:56 PM I'm curious to know whether or not the various upscaling hdtvs, av receivers, etc. will routinely upscale VHS or S-VHS tapes that are connected via composite or S-video cables to those upscaling devices. For example, will the picture of a VCR (with composite cables) connected to a Pioneer SC-07 receiver with hdmi connections to a new Pioneer 60" hdtv, get "upscaled"? Thanks,
Ummmm, Ummmm, Why???? You cant Polish a Turd!!!
Athanasios
Jason Turk 03-04-09, 02:15 PM Ummmm, Ummmm, Why???? You cant Polish a Turd!!!
Athanasios
Well you can, but you first have to freeze dry it to make it solid. :D
sharkcohen 03-04-09, 03:56 PM Well you can, but you first have to freeze dry it to make it solid. :D
Mythbusters for the win.
I was actually surprised how well pre-recorded anime VHS looks on my Sony projector with a high-end Japanese Panasonic SVHS deck (got for only about $50 used, too), an Algolith Flea (analog), and a VP50Pro. Looks better than Laserdisc in some ways since the Y/C signals are stored separately on pre-recorded VHS, and there's none of the brightness smearing seen on CLV discs when using nearly all LD players.
I don't expect DVD levels of detail, but the tapes I'm watching aren't even available on LD so it's not like I have much choice. But I'm pretty satisfied. I wouldn't expect as good quality with just a normal VHS deck and a receiver's upscaling, though.
Jason Turk 03-05-09, 11:37 AM Mythbusters for the win.
Now THAT would be a good show.
Blacklac 03-05-09, 12:17 PM Now THAT would be a good show.
Last night... :D
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