I heard a lot of folks raving about the Reon VX's deinterlacing capabilities, and it scoring 100 on the HQV test DVD. Well, I picked up the Samsung BD-P2500 with the Reon chip today and tried it out with some of my TV DVD's (namely, The X-Files - Season 1 and Star Trek: TNG - Season 1).

Generally I was pleased, but I noticed in certain scenes there was obviously some interlacing artifacts remaining in the image, which were usually seen in diagonal details and fine lines in the scenery. Is this normal? I was really hoping the Reon would eliminate any and all interlacing issues with these older TV titles.

I'd really love to hear other Reon users' experiences with these and other troublesome interlaced discs.

Thanks!

What kind of TV do you have, how is it connected, and what are the video output settings on your player?

Pioneer Kuro Elite Pro-111FD, connected via HDMI to the Samsung BD-P2500. The output settings are 1080p, 24fps enabled, sharpening and noise reduction set to off.

I'm probably just being overly picky, but I wanted to get other users' takes on the matter. The deinterlacing issues also seem to crop up when there are thin lines in the image (power lines, edges of cars, etc.) Progressive DVDs look fantastic, there's just some of these minor issues with interlaced TV series DVDs.

Pioneer Kuro Elite Pro-111FD, connected via HDMI to the Samsung BD-P2500. The output settings are 1080p, 24fps enabled, sharpening and noise reduction set to off.

I'm probably just being overly picky, but I wanted to get other users' takes on the matter. The deinterlacing issues also seem to crop up when there are thin lines in the image (power lines, edges of cars, etc.) Progressive DVDs look fantastic, there's just some of these minor issues with interlaced TV series DVDs.

The only thing I can think of is if the transfer is lower bitrate that might cause what you're seeing, but IIRC the TNG DVD transfers were pretty decent quality bitrate-wise.

Don't worry about being "overly-picky" - I'd probably be wondering the same thing myself if I saw it. Never apologize for your high standards :)

Make sure that your Kuro is set for 1:1 pixel mapping. otherwise there may be processing occuring in the TV on top of the Reon's. Occasionally, you may be watching material that is composed of both progressive and de-interlaced material and the processor can get thrown off in parts of the image. Happens with my Realta based processor, every once in awhile. Hard to comment without actually seeing the image.

Forgot to mention: I'm sure that you are aware that most of the old classic TV shows that you are watching were shot of film and the image on the DVD is pure progressive - there should be no de-interlacing going on.

Both great suggestions, I didn't think of either of those.

I wouldn't be surprised if TNG was shot on film, and had the credits and special effects overlaid once it was all on video.

Occasionally, you may be watching material that is composed of both progressive and de-interlaced material and the processor can get thrown off in parts of the image. Happens with my Realta based processor, every once in awhile. Hard to comment without actually seeing the image.

I think this is what's going on, since 90% of the time the image looks fantastic. Then I get these weird anomalies in part of the picture, that seem to shift, or strobe rapidly. I imagine it's the processor having difficulty getting a "lock" on the interlaced images, if that makes any sense.

I think this is what's going on, since 90% of the time the image looks fantastic. Then I get these weird anomalies in part of the picture, that seem to shift, or strobe rapidly. I imagine it's the processor having difficulty getting a "lock" on the interlaced images, if that makes any sense.This may sound like an obvious question...in the option menu, do you have orbiter enabled?

As you probably know, Pioneer displays have an "orbiter" feature that constantly shifts the image to significantly reduce the possibility of burn-in when static images and logos are displayed for prolonged periods of time. You can turn this off.

I think this is what's going on, since 90% of the time the image looks fantastic. Then I get these weird anomalies in part of the picture, that seem to shift, or strobe rapidly. I imagine it's the processor having difficulty getting a "lock" on the interlaced images, if that makes any sense.

I've noticed similar issues with the Reon implementation in my Denon DVD-2930CI. It quite often slips out of lock with any film content I put in the player that is not a test disc (even simple content like the Star Wars films), resulting in what I deem to be very objectionable artifacting with the full resolution of the content consistently going in-and-out. This is evident even after forcing the Reon to a film-bias. I have stopped using the player for watching DVDs and now use an OPPO 980 with a DVDO Edge handling the de-interlacing/scaling.

TNG was completely edited on (SD) video. This is one of Paramount's biggest problems today as they can't release TNG on a HD format without a massive re-editing of the original film material. I've watched the TNG DVDs (and LDs before that) numerous times and there are so many cadence breaks and bad edits that a 90% hit ratio would in fact be quite good.

Combine this "source errors" with a processor recovering only slowly from bad edits and you get what you see. I'm not sure about the X-Files DVDs, but my guess it that they're taken from the same analogue masters the LDs were done from and I know those and they contain lots of "video over film" material as well.

Thanks so much for your input guys! That definitely helps, and I think I see a new ABT-based Oppo player in my future.