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musick

03-18-09, 05:51 PM

Are you guys really already ready for another Uncharted? I just replayed the first one a few months ago for the thophies, and honestly wouldn't mind if I didn't see another for a few years. Dont get me wrong, Uncharted was a great game, I just dont want to see it turn into the next Tomb Raider series, with a release every other year, each one less original and exciting than the previous. How about a new Jak game instead?
I along with ND don't share your concern
But seriously, if you distill all of the incredible variety of stuff that we're putting into this game into one simple concept: we really just want to create the most amazing and playable version of a summer blockbuster action movie that has ever been seen on the PLAYSTATION 3, or on any game console, for that matter. We want the quality of our performances and writing, and the careful way that the story interweaves with the very best action-gameplay we've ever created, to really transport the player into a world of adventure that they'll never forget.

We really think that we're outdoing ourselves with Uncharted 2, and we can't wait to see what people think of what we're making!

looks great

i hope this time they make the game last longer than 13 hrs of gameplay

We're not quite ready to say how long the experience will be, since we still have plenty of development time in front of us before we ship.
However, we're making sure that the end result is not only a satisfying length to play through, but that it stays true to the needs of our story.

On top of that, we're planning on adding several features to the game that will increase replayability and extend the gameplay experience for everyone. We'll be revealing those features at a later date, so hold tight for more info!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/963/963744p1.html

confidenceman

03-18-09, 06:11 PM

^^^ Thanks for the info. Great to hear.

I'm not worried about this series becoming a lost cause. Unlike most game series, this one seems to be retaining its core group of talent from game to game. Adventure game series like Tomb Raider and Prince of Persia lost traction because they kept getting shuffled around to different groups of core talent. Tough to keep a consistent vision and direction when the people "steering the ship" keep changing.

And even though many major game developers aim for that "blockbuster" feeling, Uncharted is the only game I've played that truly delivered on it.

wierdo

03-18-09, 06:47 PM

Wow.

NJ3118

03-18-09, 09:56 PM

On my third playthru with Drake's Fortune with half of the trophies done.

Naughty Dog truly made a great game with Uncharted 1. Slightly underrated the game is IMO.

:confused::confused::confused: who underrates this game? Every outlet and person who played it is still amazed

TyrantII

03-18-09, 10:08 PM

I'm guessing those are not in game screenshots taken during gameplay.

All I have to say to that is Uncharted: DF ended up looking better then it's earlier Screenshots.

mbeiler

03-18-09, 11:12 PM

Yeah, I'm not doubting that the game will be great, I just like variety in my gaming and would hate to see another great developer lock themselves into a single franchise like so many others do.

WilliamR

03-19-09, 08:18 AM

All this talk of Uncharted 2 made me put 1 back in and start playing it again. Man, what a good game, one of the best I have ever played on any system.

JD23

03-19-09, 08:45 AM

:confused::confused::confused: who underrates this game? Every outlet and person who played it is still amazed

Professional reviewers and the gaming media in general underrated Drake's Fortune. Go to metacritic and look at all of the inferior games that are rated higher than Uncharted.

confidenceman

03-19-09, 09:05 AM

Yeah, the first one was shockingly left out of a number of year-end awards for 2007. Critics didn't seem to go for it as much as gamers.

The general consensus among critics was that it was an incredibly solid, polished, and pretty game, but that it also wasn't anything new or special. :rolleyes:

benjamin-benjami

03-19-09, 09:38 AM

yeah i am pumped but would like to know if there is going to be another jax??

bdoyledimou

03-19-09, 09:57 AM

:confused::confused::confused: who underrates this game? Every outlet and person who played it is still amazed

I thought it was a good game, but not GREAT... I was disappointed in the ending and felt that that should have been the middle of the story.. it just seemed to go action action action oh we have to stop now...queue end boss battle.

TyrantII

03-19-09, 11:13 AM

I thought it was a good game, but not GREAT... I was disappointed in the ending and felt that that should have been the middle of the story.. it just seemed to go action action action oh we have to stop now...queue end boss battle.

I do agree, but I think it's a testament at how well paced the game was.

I think it took about 14 hours to get through it the first time and at the end I was like "that's it"? Then I saw the time it took and went, wow, 14 hours, really?

ND has already said U2 will most likely be longer. I'm just hoping they can bring back the same pace that makes it seem to fly by.

NJ3118

03-19-09, 11:33 AM

OKOK, now you guys are making me play through the campaign again, lol....

This time Im going to literally tip toe through it....

Dan C OSG

03-19-09, 11:35 AM

OKOK, now you guys are making me play through the campaign again, lol....

This time Im going to literally tip toe through it....

will ther new one have jet packs?

confidenceman

03-19-09, 11:50 AM

I think it took about 14 hours to get through it the first time and at the end I was like "that's it"? Then I saw the time it took and went, wow, 14 hours, really?Yeah, one of the common gamer criticisms was that the game was "too short." Never understood that, but you may have hit the nail on the head. It just seems short because it's so well paced. :)

Took me ~10hrs the first time through on Hard and ~12hrs on Crushing. Totally respectable length. Too many games these days are bloated with unnecessarily long campaigns. "Longer" almost never equals "better."

newfmp3

03-19-09, 01:24 PM

Yeah, one of the common gamer criticisms was that the game was "too short." Never understood that, but you may have hit the nail on the head. It just seems short because it's so well paced. :)

Took me ~10hrs the first time through on Hard and ~12hrs on Crushing. Totally respectable length. Too many games these days are bloated with unnecessarily long campaigns. "Longer" almost never equals "better."

This mindset is something I'll never understand. We pay a lot of money for these games these days, and for it to last 1 day is just pathetic. The first game was strictly single player. For me, for it to be actually worth a purchase, I want a single player game to be at a min 25hrs for my 70 bucks that I will pay for it. With no multiplayer on it, once you finish it, you toss it. Sadly, in this generation of games, it seems people only want 10-12 hour games. Why I do not know. If people like getting screwed out of their money I guess then it's fine. Most games these days are at best a rental, and it's getting worse.

Uncharted took me about 8 maybe 9 hours first time through. I am only an average skill gamer. Very short. Was it good...hell yeah. Do I want a bloated game with a bunch of back tracking just to make it longer? ( Halo 1 comes to mind) Hell no. Space is not an issue on our beloved PS3 blu rays. The only reason why a game would be "too long" is if the developer ran out of good idea's. Look at Fallout 3, worth every Penney, and heck I put 60 hours into it and still going. Bioshock - another example. I won't list them all. But Uncharted's biggest problem was game length. And as an early title, I forgave it for being short. Luckily I never had to buy the first one anyways since a buddy of mine gave it to me. The irony here is that it is still one of my fav games of this gen.

I've been a gamer a long time, and there was a time when a 8 hour game would have been laughed at in this industry. I realise game development cost have gone way up, but so has the customers. In the end, as a customer I want the most for my money on anything I buy, and 8-12 hour campaign's are sad and pathetic. Sadly, from the quote from Naughty Dog above it seems that they are only going to add something to Uncharted to simply make us want to replay it, another sad attempt to make a game last longer.

TyrantII

03-19-09, 01:38 PM

not sure about that.

Most good SP games are typically 15-20 hours through your first play though, at least in the past. I totally understand the 6-8 hour complaints, but uncharted was pretty normal for game length, historically in it's genre. RE games, for example, would take 12-16 hours through on your first run, but speed runs could be done in the 2hr mark.

One could also look to Deadspace that takes around 15-20 hours to complete on a speed run, and how the game absolutely just drags at times. So much so, some even give up on it. Personally, I did love the game, but around chapter 7, through 9 I found myself trudging on until it picked up again in the last few chapters.

Did you play it on easy / normal? I could see getting through it fast on those settings, where there's no challenge from the enemies. Another recommendation is to always start on hard if you want to increase length, as games tend to be very nuked now a days on even normal.

bassmonkeee

03-19-09, 01:40 PM

This mindset is something I'll never understand. We pay a lot of money for these games these days, and for it to last 1 day is just pathetic. The first game was strictly single player. For me, for it to be actually worth a purchase, I want a single player game to be at a min 25hrs for my 70 bucks that I will pay for it. With no multiplayer on it, once you finish it, you toss it. Sadly, in this generation of games, it seems people only want 10-12 hour games. Why I do not know. If people like getting screwed out of their money I guess then it's fine. Most games these days are at best a rental, and it's getting worse.

Uncharted took me about 8 maybe 9 hours first time through. I am only an average skill gamer. Very short. Was it good...hell yeah. Do I want a bloated game with a bunch of back tracking just to make it longer? ( Halo 1 comes to mind) Hell no. Space is not an issue on our beloved PS3 blu rays. The only reason why a game would be "too long" is if the developer ran out of good idea's. Look at Fallout 3, worth every Penney, and heck I put 60 hours into it and still going. Bioshock - another example. I won't list them all. But Uncharted's biggest problem was game length. And as an early title, I forgave it for being short. Luckily I never had to buy the first one anyways since a buddy of mine gave it to me. The irony here is that it is still one of my fav games of this gen.

I've been a gamer a long time, and there was a time when a 8 hour game would have been laughed at in this industry. I realise game development cost have gone way up, but so has the customers. In the end, as a customer I want the most for my money on anything I buy, and 8-12 hour campaign's are sad and pathetic. Sadly, from the quote from Naughty Dog above it seems that they are only going to add something to Uncharted to simply make us want to replay it, another sad attempt to make a game last longer.

So, you're complaining about paying for a game that you consider too short when you didn't even pay for it in the first place? And, you even freely admit that it's still one of your favorite games of this gen?

maximuslcd

03-19-09, 01:57 PM

as soo as I'm done with fallout i'm gonna pick up uncharted 1..never played it but heard its good and this one looks truely amazing

newfmp3

03-19-09, 02:36 PM

So, you're complaining about paying for a game that you consider too short when you didn't even pay for it in the first place? And, you even freely admit that it's still one of your favorite games of this gen?

your twisting my words around. I was talking about games in general. Yes, I did like Uncharted, and it was too short for me.

bassmonkeee

03-19-09, 02:46 PM

your twisting my words around. I was talking about games in general. Yes, I did like Uncharted, and it was too short for me.

I don't know how I'm twisting anything around. You said that the first Uncharted "is still one of my fav games of this gen." And, you also said that you borrowed it from a friend.

As this thread is about Uncharted 2, and not "games in general," I thought your actual feelings and investment in the first game was the only relevant info in your post.

You can always simply rent the short games, ya know.

Personally, I'd rather have a 9-12 hour game that is considered one of the best games of a generation, than a 25 hour game that was only mediocre. And, I really hate the idea of adding multi-player simply because it's expected, or people complain about the length of a single player experience.

And, I actually bought the first Uncharted game. ;)

Martez

03-19-09, 04:26 PM

Going off these screenshots, it looks like Uncharted 2 is going to be the peak visual quality this gen :D

newfmp3

03-19-09, 06:59 PM

Going off these screenshots, it looks like Uncharted 2 is going to be the peak visual quality this gen :D

lol. Having fun are we?

But it does indeed look incredible.

confidenceman

03-19-09, 08:16 PM

This mindset is something I'll never understand. We pay a lot of money for these games these days, and for it to last 1 day is just pathetic.I guess we'll just have to disagree. "Longer" does not equal "better." I wouldn't want to see a 5-hour movie version of The Watchmen. Just because I paid $10 to see it in the theaters (and enjoyed it well enough for the couple hours it lasted), doesn't mean I think it should be longer in order for it to be more worth my money.

Contrary to what you say, games are getting longer this gen rather than shorter. I think it's the height of lazy game development to make a 20-30 hour game out of what should have been a 10-hour one. Otherwise good games (like Far Cry 2) get bogged down by their length.

Prior to the N64/PS1 generation, it wasn't a foregone conclusion that you could beat a game. You could spend 30 hours trying to beat a game. Once you finally got good enough to beat it, you could beat it in less than an hour or two. The difference now is that games have gotten much easier, and it's expected that you will beat a game. So instead of a 2-hour long game, games are now much longer to compensate for how (relatively) easy they've become.

Long story short, I think Uncharted is the ideal length for an adventure game and/or shooter. Strange that people didn't call Dead Space short, but it took 10-12 hours to beat (same length as Uncharted). If you don't like the game enough to want to replay it, then that's not a very good game and you probably should just sell it or you shouldn't have bought it in the first place (and just rented it or borrowed it). Problem solved. ;)

All this Uncharted talk is making me want to replay it again (for the fourth time)! After unlocking all the trophies, though, I need some new approach. Suggestions?

Toe

03-20-09, 12:05 AM

This mindset is something I'll never understand. We pay a lot of money for these games these days, and for it to last 1 day is just pathetic. The first game was strictly single player. For me, for it to be actually worth a purchase, I want a single player game to be at a min 25hrs for my 70 bucks that I will pay for it. With no multiplayer on it, once you finish it, you toss it. Sadly, in this generation of games, it seems people only want 10-12 hour games. Why I do not know. If people like getting screwed out of their money I guess then it's fine. Most games these days are at best a rental, and it's getting worse.

Uncharted took me about 8 maybe 9 hours first time through. I am only an average skill gamer. Very short. Was it good...hell yeah. Do I want a bloated game with a bunch of back tracking just to make it longer? ( Halo 1 comes to mind) Hell no. Space is not an issue on our beloved PS3 blu rays. The only reason why a game would be "too long" is if the developer ran out of good idea's. Look at Fallout 3, worth every Penney, and heck I put 60 hours into it and still going. Bioshock - another example. I won't list them all. But Uncharted's biggest problem was game length. And as an early title, I forgave it for being short. Luckily I never had to buy the first one anyways since a buddy of mine gave it to me. The irony here is that it is still one of my fav games of this gen.

I've been a gamer a long time, and there was a time when a 8 hour game would have been laughed at in this industry. I realise game development cost have gone way up, but so has the customers. In the end, as a customer I want the most for my money on anything I buy, and 8-12 hour campaign's are sad and pathetic. Sadly, from the quote from Naughty Dog above it seems that they are only going to add something to Uncharted to simply make us want to replay it, another sad attempt to make a game last longer.

Just rent the game, problem solved. You dont have to buy it. ;)

Having said that, I would much rather have a quality 10 hour game than hit and miss 30 hour game. Uncharted was one of the best gaming experiences of this generation period.

Murilo

03-20-09, 07:35 AM

I just finished drakes tonight. It was a great game, looking forward to 2. Hopefully they fix the screen tearing

bdoyledimou

03-20-09, 08:12 AM

I didn't say it was too short.. and i REALLY don't think it had good pacing. In fact, i think i was trying to allude to the fact that the pacing was flawed..

The "mutant" segment either shouldn't have been there, (reducing the play time, but making the story better) or their introduction should have marked the MIDDLE of the game, not the 2/3rd point.

There should have been more about them, more interaction with them, (rather than that one dungeon crawl in the dark) or more of an explaination/story around them.

Instead it was battle them, battle the other guys, battle them both, BOSS BATTLE END!!!

t-ray

03-20-09, 09:26 AM

This mindset is something I'll never understand. We pay a lot of money for these games these days, and for it to last 1 day is just pathetic. The first game was strictly single player. For me, for it to be actually worth a purchase, I want a single player game to be at a min 25hrs for my 70 bucks that I will pay for it. With no multiplayer on it, once you finish it, you toss it. Sadly, in this generation of games, it seems people only want 10-12 hour games. Why I do not know. If people like getting screwed out of their money I guess then it's fine. Most games these days are at best a rental, and it's getting worse.

Uncharted took me about 8 maybe 9 hours first time through. I am only an average skill gamer. Very short. Was it good...hell yeah. Do I want a bloated game with a bunch of back tracking just to make it longer? ( Halo 1 comes to mind) Hell no. Space is not an issue on our beloved PS3 blu rays. The only reason why a game would be "too long" is if the developer ran out of good idea's. Look at Fallout 3, worth every Penney, and heck I put 60 hours into it and still going. Bioshock - another example. I won't list them all. But Uncharted's biggest problem was game length. And as an early title, I forgave it for being short. Luckily I never had to buy the first one anyways since a buddy of mine gave it to me. The irony here is that it is still one of my fav games of this gen.

I've been a gamer a long time, and there was a time when a 8 hour game would have been laughed at in this industry. I realise game development cost have gone way up, but so has the customers. In the end, as a customer I want the most for my money on anything I buy, and 8-12 hour campaign's are sad and pathetic. Sadly, from the quote from Naughty Dog above it seems that they are only going to add something to Uncharted to simply make us want to replay it, another sad attempt to make a game last longer.

I'm one of those that actually *wants* a short game. I work, a lot, my wife works, and I've got a 12 year old son. I hardly ever get a chance to play games any more. I don't have the time nor the patience to play anything with any length. That's why I love games like Rock Band and Warhawk so much, I can just put them in and play.

For example, I picked up Resistance 2 back in November, and Heavenly Sword in January. In R2, I'm on the last mission, but I've still never played it online. And I'm maybe halfway through Heavenly Sword.

I've spent more time recently playing Final Fantasy IV than anything else.

bassmonkeee

03-20-09, 09:26 AM

confidenceman

03-20-09, 12:39 PM

The ****** segment either shouldn't have been there, (reducing the play time, but making the story better) or their introduction should have marked the MIDDLE of the game, not the 2/3rd point.

There should have been more about them, more interaction with them, (rather than that one dungeon crawl in the dark) or more of an explaination/story around them.Did you replay the game? These guys are alluded to throughout the game, with increasing frequency. I thought it was totally earned. But, meh, to each his own.

But I do agree with criticisms of the very end of the game. Ending the game with a QTE is just plain wrong. From post-release interviews, it sounds like ND knows this (I hope).

fcorona76

03-20-09, 01:14 PM

bdoyledimou--I know the game is old, but I think you should really edit your post with spoiler tags. It's going to get a lot of renewed interest, and if someone is reading this thread that hasn't played it, you're kind of ruining a big twist in the game for no reason.

Spoiler tags for a 2 year old game? Okay.....:p

Everything in spoiler tags now so people living in a cave for the last decade dont explode from the rush of new-to-them information....

George W Bush gets elected to two terms of Presidential office of the United States of America and Lindsay Lohan is a confused lesbian.

mave198

03-20-09, 01:19 PM

Spoiler tags for a 2 year old game? Okay.....:p

Everything in spoiler tags now so people living in a cave for the last decade dont explode from the rush of new-to-them information....

George W Bush gets elected to two terms of Presidential office of the United States of America and Lindsay Lohan is a confused lesbian.

That was actually pretty funny.

Martez

03-20-09, 01:35 PM

I still haven't played Uncharted.

confidenceman

03-20-09, 01:47 PM

I still haven't played Uncharted.And have you also never gotten to second base? :D

Seriously, man, quit saying that and just play the damn thing already!

dbburns

03-20-09, 03:01 PM

I still haven't played it either. I keep an eye on the local craigslist hoping to see it for $25 or less. Otherwise, I'll wait for it to become a greatest hits title (hopefully this Summer).

bassmonkeee

03-20-09, 03:37 PM

dogdoctor

03-20-09, 03:44 PM

All this Uncharted talk is making me want to replay it again (for the fourth time)! After unlocking all the trophies, though, I need some new approach. Suggestions?I too did it 4 times. Hard/Crushing before Patch. Easy/Crushing after patch for trophies for the Platinum. If you want a challenge, I hear from the dedicated Uncharted players that the thing to do is to set it to Crushing and 2x Speed mode, move faster and die quicker = tough. You also have the option to set all weapons to unlimited ammo/weapon select to make it a little easier.