Bang & Olufsen has introduced a serious high-end 103-inch HUGE plasma. It's the BeoVision 4-103.

Check it out. There's a very cool video of the automatic stand that lowers and hides the Beo speaker and the bar when the TV is off.

Link: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1237406140

damn that thing is sick lol

wow MSRP on that is no joke :eek:

I don't understand the whole raising and lowering thing but it looks pretty awesome. Wish you can get 103 inch plasma for under 10,000. Those 7.1 speakers look crazy!!!

Every 120 hours the tv re-calibrates itself? WTF? It's like optimus prime.

According to Bang & Olufsen they have already sold 30. Talk about rich oil sheikhs.

Yea I just spoke to my contact there, very solid company.

When you all get your sets in, make sure to post a review.

Apparently it weighs 500Kg.
Does it come with a free structural survey on a buyer's house?

Bang & Olufsen has introduced a serious high-end 103-inch HUGE plasma. It's the BeoVision 4-103.

Check it out. There's a very cool video of the automatic stand that lowers and hides the Beo speaker and the bar when the TV is off.

Link: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1237406140

Looks like a good deal for Panasonic, since they provided the panel. It appears to be the same panel from the 103PF9UK.

It does look cool, I'll give it that.

Apparently it weighs 500Kg.
Does it come with a free structural survey on a buyer's house?

I think the concept here is that you buy the display first and build the house around it, LOL.

When you all get your sets in, make sure to post a review.

Also, if you supply a pic, adjust your camera down a few megs so the file size won't crash the server.

According to the article, energy consumption is estimated to be in the ballpark of 1.21 gigawatts annually. ;)

Seriously though, that thing is ridiculous. I would love to see if the PQ is actually worth the price tag. Does anyone have any experience with this manufacturer.

According to the article, energy consumption is estimated to be in the ballpark of 1.21 gigawatts annually. ;)

Seriously though, that thing is ridiculous. I would love to see if the PQ is actually worth the price tag. Does anyone have any experience with this manufacturer.

Are you talking about B&O? They have been around for years, mostly high end audio. They are the "style" police in electronics. Company has fallen on hard times lately, but still viable.

Many Many years and a good company

wow MSRP on that is no joke :eek:

yowser..... they take a 103" panny panel that retails for $70K add a nice stand :) and sell it for $134,000 plus how much is VAT now about 15-17.5%?

so somewhere around $155-160K...

geez wonder how much an ext warranty on that would be. :rolleyes:

Yea they just make them better ;)

Does anyone have any experience with this manufacturer.
I bought my B&O turntable 25 years ago. Very innovative company with excellent products.

I wouldn't trade my elite for it, unless I could sell it.

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wow MSRP on that is no joke :eek:
I've just called my agent. Should be able to lock in the loan and bring this beast home in 30 days.

I wonder if they allow 30-year fixed or FHA to mortgage that thing...

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Official information has been announced by Bang & Olufsen here: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1237447640

Did you guys see the video? The stand is out of this world!

I heard that the TV will be exhibited in a store somewhere in New York. Do you guys know anything about where it is?

why would anyone spend so much on such a cumbersome thing? i understand that they are impressive. but why not just go with a projector if you want bigger than 60"??

why would anyone spend so much on such a cumbersome thing? i understand that they are impressive. but why not just go with a projector if you want bigger than 60"??
I would have to agree that if I had that much money, I would have a sweet dedicated home theater room with 100% light control, so front projector would be my choice for sure!

IMO, they made a mistake using a silver/gray frame..

I'll have to scratch that off the shopping list. ;)

IMO, they made a mistake using a silver/gray frame..

I'll have to scratch that off the shopping list. ;)

I was getting ready to place the order but wanted to check if we can use ControlCAL on it first :D

why would anyone spend so much on such a cumbersome thing? i understand that they are impressive. but why not just go with a projector if you want bigger than 60"??

You are looking at it from a videophile perspective, it's a fashion statement for the wealthy. Consider it furniture, if you will. I love the look of it, it's not meant to be practical or mundane....fashionistas will love it..

My close friend has the 65" and those speakers (along with everything else B&O). There is a strong chance he will get this thing. I will post pics ...

this thing makes my 141 look like a remote.

My close friend has the 65" and those speakers (along with everything else B&O). There is a strong chance he will get this thing. I will post pics ...

this thing makes my 141 look like a remote.


What's the PQ on the 65"? Care to share any observations?

Post about the plasma or don't post at all, please.

larry

What's the PQ on the 65"? Care to share any observations?

I saw it at their plant looks very nice overall in PQ.

What's the PQ on the 65"? Care to share any observations?

PQ on B&O products have always been top notch and among the best. It doesnt have the black levels of Kuro, but is top notch in every other respect.

PQ on B&O products have always been top notch and among the best. It doesnt have the black levels of Kuro, but is top notch in every other respect.

Apparently excellent processing is what really sets them apart. I saw one at a B&O store in a theater room and they look very very nice with absolutely spot-on color, to my eyes anyway. Minimum luminance is not quite at kuro level but seemed a bit better than the 11G (not 12G) panasonics, probably because of some enhanced processing.

I can't believe your friend might buy one of the 103 inchers though, thats pretty friggin' awesome.

yup processing is their key for sure!

I saw it at their plant looks very nice overall in PQ.

I was curious because they use the Panny panel. Have you seen the Panny 150" model?

I only saw the 65 inch B&O at their factory and it was impressive.

At first viewing, I'm thinking "OK, that's pretty big"
Then she walks past the screen....wow.

At first viewing, I'm thinking "OK, that's pretty big"
Then she walks past the screen....wow.

Yeah, I noticed the same thing. Pretty sick indeed. :eek:

I would have to agree that if I had that much money, I would have a sweet dedicated home theater room with 100% light control, so front projector would be my choice for sure!

If you can afford this you already have the sweat home theater set up your talking about. They just need this to watch the news, the History channel and get in some Madden when everyone else goes to bed:)

In addition to great PQ its the little things B&O does to set aside themselves from the rest (even the tip end we are familiar with). One thing that sticks out is when turning the display on and off its doesnt just flick on and off, but rather turns off/on in sort of a curtain fashion much like a picture appearing or disappearing in power point under the curtain setting. Gives a much better "high end" experience every time to you turn it off and on. The other cool thing is you can choose what color you want the aluminum frame to be, and they come professionally calibrated from the factory.


I hve always liked B&O, because I agree with their philosophy in some respects. They are one of the very few that puts a lot into the form of their product. Most HT equipment even high end stuff has very poor design.

I'm lucky, I live one block from a B&O store in DC :p As far as the 65", I had it demo'ed to me in person and you get what you pay for with B&O. They really make quality components in both audio (their specialty which they have been doing for many, many years) and now in flat-screen LCD and plasma panels provided by Panasonic. Compared to my Elite 151, the blacks aren't as great, but everything else is much better. As ercc said, it's all in the processing with their sets. The BeoVision 4 series (and I believe some of their other series) are self-calibrating for small changes over the life of the panel. You just push a button, and it does all the rest. As a side note for those interested, the 65" plasmas (Beo 4) go for $20K, same price as the 70" Sony XBR7. All of their stuff is high-end, but fantastic. You have to see some of their audio, it's really unlike anything else out there in look. Sound quality is superb as well. Just wish I had the money to afford their stuff :(

In addition to great PQ its the little things B&O does to set aside themselves from the rest (even the tip end we are familiar with). One thing that sticks out is when turning the display on and off its doesnt just flick on and off, but rather turns off/on in sort of a curtain fashion much like a picture appearing or disappearing in power point under the curtain setting. Gives a much better "high end" experience every time to you turn it off and on. The other cool thing is you can choose what color you want the aluminum frame to be, and they come professionally calibrated from the factory.


I hve always liked B&O, because I agree with their philosophy in some respects. They are one of the very few that puts a lot into the form of their product. Most HT equipment even high end stuff has very poor design.

Vancouver, you own some of their audio stuff right?? I could have swore I saw B&O speakers in your141 pics.

B&O is a company gears toward the ultra wealthy. When I saw the tv with the automatic up and down stand, I am thinking why when it is off it is so low to the floor that my kids or my dog would break this tv. OBviously, I am thinking from an average person and not someone who is loaded with money and the thought of that does not cross his/her mind.

I am happy that my 151fd has pretty close to picture 1080p, it is just not as big that's all. All the calibrator professional should be worry losing their jobs because only 1 or 2 percent of the people can really afford this tv.

I think I'm gonna stick with my 103 inch Panny. That was a big enough dent in my pockets as it stands.

The BV7-40 LCD,and the BV9 plasma,TV has an integrated Beosystem 3 processor,whereas with the BV4 Plasma panel the Beosystem 3 processor is a separate unit.
The Beosystem 3 is a versatile unit,and is compact as there is no need for integrated amplifiers since B & O speakers are active.
The BV4,and BV9,apparently use specially selected Panasonic panels,and I have been impressed with their PQ,particularly with SD material.

wait...some check my math...does thing thing cost over 100k US? Its basically a new porsche?!

Interesting to see if B&O will also release a 150-inch version based on the 150-inch Panny panel. :cool:

wait...some check my math...does thing thing cost over 100k US? Its basically a new porsche?!

It's 100,000 Euros, 1 Euro =1.3639 dollars, Plus VAT(value added tax)in Denmark is 25%(the maximum in the EU member states). This brings you in the $170,000 range. You could buy 3 new base model Porsches for the same price, Boxster, Cayman and a 911(comes to $174,000 without any discounts).

I only saw the 65 inch B&O at their factory and it was impressive.

Roman, was that factory in Denmark?? Really super nice AV gear. B&O has had some of their products displayed in the Museum of Modern Art. The only thing I've ever been able to afford from Bang & Olusen is their radio. I've owned a Beolit 707 for many years, which was one of those products that was displayed in the museum a long time ago. In fact, I've haven't even used the radio in a long time, and should sell it...anybody interested?:D

Roman, was that factory in Denmark?? Really super nice AV gear. B&O has had some of their products displayed in the Museum of Modern Art. The only thing I've ever been able to afford from Bang & Olusen is their radio. I've owned a Beolit 707 for many years, which was one of those products that was displayed in the museum a long time ago. In fact, I've haven't even used the radio in a long time, and should sell it...anybody interested?:D

I should rephrase it was their Chicago facility. US headquarters. Yea and headphones :)

I should rephrase it was their Chicago facility. US headquarters. Yea and headphones :)

Ok, so it wasn't on that Scandinavian skiing vacation w/the two nordic blondes...:D

Before Pioneer folded tent (still not 100% convinced) on their display division, they were attempting to follow in the same steps as Bang & Olufsen by purchasing their glass from Panasonic, and then adding in their own secret sauce to make a more high-end brand specific PDP. Never got to that point w/Pioneer. B&O really does has a long standing high-end niche carved out in the "rare air" of style and innovation.

I guess the AIG exec who didn't give back their bonus must have bought one of these :)

Vancouver, you own some of their audio stuff right?? I could have swore I saw B&O speakers in your141 pics.

Nope. I own a B&O AV cabinet, phone, earphones, ear piece (which i use for XBL), coasters, cable covers and a beer opener :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1059491

I do love their design though and I think you may be referring to my sub which looks B&O but its B&W.

Basically I own a lot of things you can buy without getting into a HT setup. Problem with B&O is that its all proprietary meaning you cant buy their CD player or speakers and use them with anything but B&O equipment.

Their plasma comes with an external procesor BTW

It's 100,000 Euros, 1 Euro =1.3639 dollars, Plus VAT(value added tax)in Denmark is 25%(the maximum in the EU member states). This brings you in the $170,000 range. You could buy 3 new base model Porsches for the same price, Boxster, Cayman and a 911(comes to $174,000 without any discounts).

mmm..that works out to be 10" of more viewing per porsche. I think ill stick with my 141 (as if I had the choice).

What would a 9G Kuro panel with B&O processing look like?

Ok, so it wasn't on that Scandinavian skiing vacation w/the two nordic blondes...:D

Before Pioneer folded tent (still not 100% convinced) on their display division, they were attempting to follow in the same steps as Bang & Olufsen by purchasing their glass from Panasonic, and then adding in their own secret sauce to make a more high-end brand specific PDP. Never got to that point w/Pioneer. B&O really does has a long standing high-end niche carved out in the "rare air" of style and innovation.

Agreed :) Well for the most part lol

What would a 9G Kuro panel with B&O processing look like?

One could only imagine :(

will it support my VCR by way of RCA or S-Video inputs?

B&O has released a backgrounder/article on the unique elevating stand. The article is called "Moving a giant". Interesting read.

Link: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1237891297

So, anyone seen this monster yet? I hope to see it in New York soon :-)

I want one.

Where can I sell a Lung and both my legs to fund one of these? :D

So, anyone seen this monster yet? I hope to see it in New York soon :-)

Prob in Europe first.

So, if you get burn-in, do you call the fire department?

Prob in Europe first.

I talked to someone close to B&O and they told me that the had a sample somewhere in NY. I don't know where, though.

As big as the set it, if it was in New York, it would still be hard to miss.

I talked to someone close to B&O and they told me that the had a sample somewhere in NY. I don't know where, though.

Probably at AIG headquarters:mad: or maybe John Thain the Merrill Lynch guy bought it as part of his office makeover

I wonder how bad dithering would look at that size.

will it support my VCR by way of RCA or S-Video inputs?

I've read some good ones in this thread but that takes the cake! LOL Thanks for posting that.

I still wonder if they'll do a 150-inch model as well. :cool:

Apparently Runco has a 103" plasma too. Can we get a face-off test of these two sets?

Apparently Runco has a 103" plasma too. Can we get a face-off test of these two sets?

If you supply the two units.....................I'll bet there will be plenty of AVS volunteers.:cool::D

Apparently Runco has a 103" plasma too. Can we get a face-off test of these two sets?

That's crazy. I didn't know they had a 103-inch out there.

Found this on their hp: http://www.runco.com/xp-103dhd.html

Apparently Runco has a 103" plasma too. Can we get a face-off test of these two sets?

One would assume they are both Pannys so B&O overall would win IMO

So, if you get burn-in, do you call the fire department?

lol !!!

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BO is right, because that price stinks.

BO is right, because that price stinks.

its not marketed to the people who are concerned with price.

its not marketed to the people who are concerned with price.

exactly

I still wonder if they'll do a 150-inch model as well. :cool:


Of course they will because Panasonic has a 150" model. I'm sure after a few months that 103" will just not be enough....

According to the article, energy consumption is estimated to be in the ballpark of 1.21 gigawatts annually. ;)

Seriously though, that thing is ridiculous. I would love to see if the PQ is actually worth the price tag. Does anyone have any experience with this manufacturer.I had a college roommate that had a B&O stereo reciever made back in the mid 80's (this was late 90's).....it was a work of art and still produced clean sound.

As big as the set it, if it was in New York, it would still be hard to miss.

Eh, looks like I might have to take a walk down the block to see if my local B&O store in DC has one, if so, commence drooling now :p

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its not marketed to the people who are concerned with price.

exactly

Hence, the reason I said the price stinks. :p

Eh, looks like I might have to take a walk down the block to see if my local B&O store in DC has one, if so, commence drooling now :p

Pictures ;)

It's all about design and general use, not reference-level analysis of their equipment. For me and for most people here, that's not worth the outlandish pricing, but not everybody is as concerned with accuracy as with convenience, and as already mentioned, there's something to be said for the extent to which they meet those demands.

That said, I've always thought the speakers and newer audio equipment (since it's gone the Bose 'no outsiders allowed' route) didn't offer enough of this to justify the pricing/quality sacrifice. I have to say, though, the processing on their displays is almost unbelievable. I'll refrain from the 'dvd on these vs. blu ray on that' extreme, but they really are phenomenal. At this size, especially, this has a big impact.

I can't imagine a room in which this would look like a good fit, but Panasonic's sold a couple thousand of theirs, so I don't see why this wouldn't move.

Very cool about the power on flicker, btw. Never knew that.

I just stopped by at a local B&O store (Columbus Ave/72St.) to ask about their 103-inch Plasma.

A sales guy said, there's going to be an event today at the Audi Forum Showroom (http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/experience/NYC_Forum.html) ( 250 Park Ave) to launch the BV4 103".


Unfortunately it's by invitation only. :( :( :(


But He also said they'll have one on display at their SoHo location (63 Greene Street) in few weeks.

It should be interesting. :D

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if you turn to page 73 in the manual, it details how to properly work the pull start.

But He also said they'll have one on display at their SoHo location (63 Greene Street) in few weeks.

It should be interesting. :D

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Thanks for that info :)

If some of you have some plans to come to Europe, it looks like the Munich store has a 103" on display. Hopefully I have the chance to visit the store next weekend.

I do own some of the B&O stuff including the Beosystem 3 (AV processor) and the Beolab 5 active speaker. The speakers are outstanding, but the AV processor is very buggy, 2 years later and several software updates (which by the way only a B&O engeneer can do) it still has some issues.

I don't know if you guys saw it (it has not been posted in the thread here) but the Beovision 4-103 is now officially available in the states and the price tag is much lower than in Europe.

Link: Beovision 4-103 USA price (http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1244740125)

I just stopped by at a local B&O store (Columbus Ave/72St.) to ask about their 103-inch Plasma.

A sales guy said, there's going to be an event today at the Audi Forum Showroom (http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/experience/NYC_Forum.html) ( 250 Park Ave) to launch the BV4 103".


Unfortunately it's by invitation only. :( :( :(


But He also said they'll have one on display at their SoHo location (63 Greene Street) in few weeks.

It should be interesting. :D



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Hey Bruzzi,

Did you ever make it to the Soho location to see the 103 in the flesh?

Hey Bruzzi,

Did you ever make it to the Soho location to see the 103 in the flesh?

Sorry, I totally forgot about it. :o

I'll try to go there today (or at least call them). :)


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At that screen size 1080p is a waste, 720p would be fine because your eyes wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Go look at the charts.

:p

Sorry, I totally forgot about it. :o

I'll try to go there today (or at least call them). :)


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Thanks...I'd love to hear how they have it set up...background and staged effects.

I wonder if that beast comes in a black bezel because it won't be seamless in the dark. :D Add another 5G to the total.

Sorry, I totally forgot about it. :o

I'll try to go there today (or at least call them). :)


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Pictures! :cool:

Thanks...I'd love to hear how they have it set up...background and staged effects.

I called them yesterday and they said the display model should be here in NY around July 10-15.
Right now it's in Chicago. :(


Pictures! :cool:

Hopefully I'll be allowed to take pics. :)

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Anyone seen IRL pictures of the TV anywhere on the internet?

BruZZi: We are waiting eagerly. :)

I saw this some days ago and god dammit its huge.

The picture is very good as well. They used some kind of High-Def demo.

I also saw a TV transmission somewhere showing the automatic stand in function.

i cannot wait to see the BLU-RAY on this giant.
really i want it.