*Update

3/20/09 - Added Logitech Statement and Photo (http://blog.logitech.com/2009/03/20/caught-were-going-to-provide-you-with-logitech-harmony-ps3-blu-ray-control/) (Thanks to Logicalnoise)

Pulled from EngadgetHD (http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/19/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-answers-a-million-pra/)

Logitech Harmony Adapter for PlayStation 3 answers a million prayers

For everything going wrong in your life right now, there's at least one beacon of light to keep you, a dutiful PS3 owner, smiling. A long (long!) awaited device has just slipped into the FCC's database, and while details are scant, most of what we need to know is tucked away in the title: Logitech Harmony Adapter for PlayStation 3. For far too long, PS3 owners with IR-based universal remotes have had to rely on clunky IR-to-Bluetooth converters to get the two to communicate, but as soon as the E-R0001 hits the market, all that will change for Harmony owners. As of now, we've got three questions that desperately need answered: 1) when?; 2) how much?; and 3) what Harmony remotes are compatible?

Credit - Link (http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/19/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-answers-a-million-pra/)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgethd.com/media/2009/03/logitech-ps3-adapter.jpg

3/20/09 - Added Logitech Statement and Photo (http://blog.logitech.com/2009/03/20/caught-were-going-to-provide-you-with-logitech-harmony-ps3-blu-ray-control/) (Thanks to Logicalnoise)

Official Photo
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3567/3371206502_7a967d9512.jpg

Statement from Logitech Global Produc t marketing Manager of Gaming, Troy Petersen.

"Hello, I’m Troy Petersen. I’m a product marketing manager for gaming products, based in Logitech’s Fremont, Calif. office. I’m a huge sports nut and former sports journalist, and love playing golf (badly) and softball — though my new “hobby” of being a dad is my most rewarding activity. I’ve been with Logitech for more than six years and involved in tech for a decade.

I love my PLAYSTATION®3, especially the fantastic HD experience when watching Blu-ray movies. I’m also a huge fan of our Harmony remotes.
Yesterday, an Engadget reporter did some digging on an FCC Web site and uncovered our plans to manufacture an adapter that allows our Harmony remotes to control the PS3. We can’t give you all the details just yet, but we can say that this adapter will, when used with any Harmony remote, give you complete control of your movie-watching experience on PS3. It will also turn the PS3 on and off – and allow you to set up your Harmony activities to include the PS3 just as you would any other device. You also won’t need to dedicate any of your valuable USB ports to get that control.

We’ll have more information very soon, including pricing and availability. We hope you can wait just a little bit longer!"

It's about time...

Any idea of when this will be available?

Link to FCC Report (https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=489203&fcc_id='JNZER0001')

Hmmm?..interesting. I just bought the Harmony One and the Nyko blu-wave. The Nyko works pretty well, but I don't like the fact that it takes controller one up, and won't power on the ps3.

It should be interesting to see how this device plays out. I think I will wait on purchasing any other BT to IR device until this things specs are revealed.

Thanks for posting...

i hate to say it, but it looks like it's just another ir-bluetooth thingy. I want a ir/bt remote.

As long as this has the ability to accept a power command, I will be a happy camper.

i hate to say it, but it looks like it's just another ir-bluetooth thingy. I want a ir/bt remote.

An ir/bt remote will be big bucks. Imo, I doubt Logitech will produce something like that. I just hope this thing is reasonably priced, and does the job.

I've been sitting on the sidelines with the nyko, etc. solutions...so forgive my ignorance, but

why would this be any different from the other solutions that can't power on the PS3? Isn't the only solution that can "power on" the unit that has the guts of an actual PS3 remote inside of it?

I guess I'm wondering if there is any hope that this can "power on" the ps3, and if it can, why can't other similar solutions?

thanks!

why would this be any different from the other solutions that can't power on the PS3? Isn't the only solution that can "power on" the unit that has the guts of an actual PS3 remote inside of it?Yep - I can't see a difference here other than the race to patents which the Schmartz product had a pending one last I checked, and a race to mass marketing with cool box art and styling of the converter. Ironically all the converters out there are already using old PS2 IR commands and have individual profiles in the Harmony database. But if it has the Logitech/Harmony name on it, it must communicate with the Harmony remotes better than the other converters. Right? :rolleyes:

Any bets on the price? I'll say anywhere between $70 and $150 as that is the going rate already.

I'm guessing it is able to map the PS button, then? If I understand correctly, wasn't that the main problem with other adapters?

I'm guessing it is able to map the PS button, then? If I understand correctly, wasn't that the main problem with other adapters?

It's not about mapping the PS button, you can program any remote to do that. The problem is that when the PS3 is OFF, no IR adapter will accept input to turn it ON.

I don't see this thing from Logitech being able to do that either...

Any bets on the price? I'll say anywhere between $70 and $150 as that is the going rate already.

Can you say IRBT for $49.99?...lol That would be nice, but maybe wishful thinking.

For something that is still bound by confidentiality on what it looks like, what it does, or the concept behind the thing, there sure are a lot of negative opinions in this thread considering you don't anything about the actual device, or its operation.

It'll have to make cookies for me to care, though. I've never had a problem with the Harmony/Sony BT remote combo.

cant wait to see what this is

There aren't enough USB ports for all this crap!

I already got 1 USB hub for the Rock Band/SingStar peripherals, 1 USB cable for charging my controllers, 1 USB mouse, and 1 USB keyboard.

In order for me to use this, I will either need another USB hub (probably not a good idea), or buy a BT or RF mouse/keyboard combo (the latter using a USB port).

There aren't enough USB ports for all this crap!

Agreed. I was really disappointed when they dropped the USB ports in the back of the system.

It's not about mapping the PS button, you can program any remote to do that. The problem is that when the PS3 is OFF, no IR adapter will accept input to turn it ON.

I don't see this thing from Logitech being able to do that either...

If they worked with Sony on it, why couldn't they? I won't pretend to be knowledgeable on this, but if the system was on standby, couldn't this custom device send a power-on command? The fact that this is adapter is coming from the makers of the remotes and is branded as for the PS3 suggests they worked it out, but I guess we'll have to wait to hear more.

Cnet suggests that this solution may include bluetooth.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10200621-.html

If they worked with Sony on it, why couldn't they? I won't pretend to be knowledgeable on this, but if the system was on standby, couldn't this custom device send a power-on command? The fact that this is adapter is coming from the makers of the remotes and is branded as for the PS3 suggests they worked it out, but I guess we'll have to wait to hear more.

I hope you're right...

No Power On Command= No Sale.

From Mikazaru's link:

There are no confirmed details yet, but a preemptive look at the FCC documents does include mention of Bluetooth and a separate power supply. Suffice to say, it sounds as this adapter will be able to power cycle your PS3.

Sounds about right; I don't know why it would have its own power supply other than to turn on a PS3 that's in standby.

Cnet suggests that this solution may include bluetooth.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10200621-.html
Yeah I scanned the FCC info and I didn't see BT mentioned but they did mention a 2.4 GHz antenna and signal which if i recall is the BT frequency. I suspect it must be as the USB ports are turned off on the PS3 when off (ie now power) so it couldn't be a simple plug into USB and have it turn it on that way. They also make mention of an independent power supply which is very similar to all the other IR converter devices (not IR adaptors) out there.

There aren't enough USB ports for all this crap!

I already got 1 USB hub for the Rock Band/SingStar peripherals, 1 USB cable for charging my controllers, 1 USB mouse, and 1 USB keyboard.

In order for me to use this, I will either need another USB hub (probably not a good idea), or buy a BT or RF mouse/keyboard combo (the latter using a USB port).

I don't think this thing would plug into a usb port. It converts IR to BT, and sends the BT signal to the ps3. I'm not sure on this, but someone else may chime in if I'm wrong.

I'm sure it can be *powered* by a USB port, but the PS3 will not power the USB ports when off. That wouldn't stop you from hooking it up to a USB port on a cable box for power, though.

Funny thing is the PS3 used to power the USB port before a firmware update disabled it. There was a device that exploited that feature and was able to turn the PS3 ON and OFF via IR...no bluetooth.

This is no different from the other IR to BT converters out there. Note the connect button.

Yea, I have the IR4PS3 and there's no USB port needed and I CAN turn my PS3 on and off using my Harmony 659.

I'm sure this will be the same.

logitech confirmed it today: http://blog.logitech.com/2009/03/20/caught-were-going-to-provide-you-with-logitech-harmony-ps3-blu-ray-control/

Yesterday, an Engadget reporter did some digging on an FCC Web site and uncovered our plans to manufacture an adapter that allows our Harmony remotes to control the PS3. We can’t give you all the details just yet, but we can say that this adapter will, when used with any Harmony remote, give you complete control of your movie-watching experience on PS3. It will also turn the PS3 on and off – and allow you to set up your Harmony activities to include the PS3 just as you would any other device. You also won’t need to dedicate any of your valuable USB ports to get that control.

logitech confirmed it today: http://blog.logitech.com/2009/03/20/caught-were-going-to-provide-you-with-logitech-harmony-ps3-blu-ray-control/



Sounds like a Logitech version of Toothfairy.

Well, it only took them three years...

hopefully i can turn off and on the ps3 with this.

hopefully i can turn off and on the ps3 with this.

like they said you will, only question is how much and when.

hopefully i can turn off and on the ps3 with this.....only question is how much and when.People, it's not like this is anything new. There are already 6 versions (4 different makes plus 2 IR2BT versions) (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016741) of IR to BT converters out there that all turn on and off the PS3. You can have complete control now of your PS3 like many of us already do without waiting. But it's all about the almighty (albeit weak) dollar. The prices now range from ~70 to 150. Some are willing to pay and most are willing to wait. So if Logitech is smart, they will need to price it competitively. Yes they are big name - but boy, are they ever late to the party.

Do the PS3 BT remotes count as a controller when you use it?

If I'm using the harmony remote, it would kinda be a pain in the ass to have to turn off the BT remote and then turn on a controller if I want to play games.

As it is now, I have a PS3 setting on my Harmony and turn it on the PS3 with my controller.

With any PS3 BT controller, simply hold the Home button and reassign it to port 1 when you want to play a game.

Do the PS3 BT remotes count as a controller when you use it?

If I'm using the harmony remote, it would kinda be a pain in the ass to have to turn off the BT remote and then turn on a controller if I want to play games.

As it is now, I have a PS3 setting on my Harmony and turn it on the PS3 with my controller.Yes - count's as a controller, but locked to controller 7. And no, you don't need to turn off the BT remote to play a game, unless the controller (remote) is picked up by particular games. LBP is a big one that that is problem for.

The way these IR to BT converters work is that they get a signal from the IR remote (aka Harmony) and it transmits to the PS3. If you want to play games after you watch say a BD, then just turn on the controller and away you go. Once done hit the power button on the Harmony and the PS3 shuts down. Pretty sweet if you ask me.

Yes - count's as a controller, but locked to controller 7. And no, you don't need to turn off the BT remote to play a game, unless the controller (remote) is picked up by particular games. LBP is a big one that that is problem for.

I think it was problem in the Beta for LBP but was resolved in the final release (or at least it works okay for me w/o having to turn off the remote/controller). I'm using an IR2BT (first generation) with a Harmony One.

http://www.sonyinsider.com/2009/05/11/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-ps3-gets-real-coming-at-end-of-may/

$59.99 @ end of May.

We'll hopefully it is $59.99. There are a couple of retailers on the web selling it as a pre-order for $79.99. I hope BB didn't take it down because they had the wrong price shown.

Wow, took them long enough.

Wireless link
Frees up your PlayStation 3’s USB ports for other use


Very good news..

Very good news..

All IR to BT converters (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016741) do not use the PS3's USB port. It is only the IR to USB converters such as the Nyko that use a USB port. Some of the IR to BT converters use a USB port for power, but the PS3 does not supply USB power when turned off. Those converters that use USB power are feed through other devices such as cable and sat boxes or simply an AC to USB converter.

However, the Harmony PS3 adapter uses an AC connection so you lose the flexiblity of connecting to a spare USB port on your DVR and have to connect to an AC outlet. Also, the Harmony PS3 adapter says that it works with Harmony remotes. This leaves out using basic universal remotes. The other IR to BT converters use the PS2 remote profile or allow learning. The Harmony PS3 adapter codeset is built into their programming software. It would only be available via hex codes once someone dumps it or learned through another Harmony remote.

What this thing has going for it is looks and perhaps discounted retail prices in the future. Anything else has already been done and implemented better in most cases. Might be a different story if it was released last year... (I've owned the IR2BT since about April of 2008)

If anyone is interested amazon has it in stock already.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B00267S7XW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1242131490&sr=8-1

A bit higher than I want to pay right now. Would have been nice if this thing had a few USB ports that I could have charged my controllers with since it's always powered.

If anyone is interested amazon has it in stock already.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B00267S7XW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1242131490&sr=8-1

Nice! Order placed....

$59.99 is a great price-point for this from Logitech. Especially since all the other hack job IR-BT converters are over $60.

Awesome! First I have to upgrade my 510 then I'm all over this. Darn FF button doesn't respond as well anymore.

I'm thinking that if I get the hex codes for the harmony and put them into my RTI remote command as Hex values, I would assume that I can then get my RTI remotes to work.

Anyone have a remote like the Pronto to try and see if it works? Being in Canada, who knows when this PS3 harmony thing will be available.

I'll probably buy one for my parents first, to test it out.

They got a PS3 just to watch Blu-Ray movies, so the remote would make things a little easier for them to figure out how to navigate the menus, especially in-movie, using the Harmony remote rather than the PS3 controller.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/12/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-official-real-an/

Here is a review from Engadget.

Damn adapter is going to cost as much as the 880 I just got on ebay! :D

Damn adapter is going to cost as much as the 880 I just got on ebay! :DTalk about a late adopter of the 880. :p

What this thing has going for it is looks and perhaps discounted retail prices in the future. Anything else has already been done and implemented better in most cases. Might be a different story if it was released last year... (I've owned the IR2BT since about April of 2008)it amazes me that there is so much splash over something that is not new at all. :rolleyes: To all those that waited, more power to you. But you've been missing out on some very good operational "hack-jobs".

As a consumer - I'd be very interested to see how this plays out on two fronts. First, I wonder if there are any patent (who holds it for these devices?) law issues that might come out of this. I mean - IR2BT and PS3IR-PRO were the first to hit the streets. I can't think that they are going to sit back and take a major undercut on cost or they may have to consider folding up their small scale operations. Secondly, how sure are we that this device has all the upscale features of the upgradable firmware, user changeable power off sequences and discrete on/off sequences.

Can anyone confirm the Turn-Off function? I use the IR2BT and it has a macro setup to turn the system off, but you basically have to point to the TV for 5 seconds. Will this Logitech Harmony Remote Adapter function the same way or is there an instant off?

If there is an instant off, I may have to upgrade.

I own the PS3IR-Pro and my biggest problem is that it doesnt always turn off. Also I've had to re-solder a few wires a few times. I ordered it through amazon and will have it tomorrow to play with. I can let you know about the turn-off function.

I own the PS3IR-Pro and my biggest problem is that it doesnt always turn off. Also I've had to re-solder a few wires a few times. I ordered it through amazon and will have it tomorrow to play with. I can let you know about the turn-off function.wow, thats odd. I've never had that issue. I would talk to Mike, he is usually very helpful on those types of things.

Can anyone confirm the Turn-Off function? I use the IR2BT and it has a macro setup to turn the system off, but you basically have to point to the TV for 5 seconds. Will this Logitech Harmony Remote Adapter function the same way or is there an instant off?

If there is an instant off, I may have to upgrade.All the newer devices after the IR2BT (orginal) have had the box transmit the poweroff sequence. Aka one button push = box transmits the off sequence = no need to hold the remote for 5 seconds. :D

Can anyone confirm the Turn-Off function? I use the IR2BT and it has a macro setup to turn the system off, but you basically have to point to the TV for 5 seconds. Will this Logitech Harmony Remote Adapter function the same way or is there an instant off?

If there is an instant off, I may have to upgrade.

Which remotes will it work with?
Any Logitech Harmony remote. This adapter allows your Harmony remote to control the PS3 just as it would any other AV component (cable box, TV, DVR, etc.) in your entertainment system. You will have access to special commands we’ve created through your Harmony online account, including a power-off macro that allows you to turn off the PS3, along with your entire entertainment system, with a single button. It is NOT designed for use with other remote controls.

http://blog.logitech.com/2009/05/12/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-now-available/

http://blog.logitech.com/2009/05/12/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-now-available/

Its still a little unclear if they mean that its a macro defined in the device itself (so it requires only a single signal sent from the Harmony remote), or if its a special macro (ala the original IR2BT) that is in Logitech's database where the Harmony remote sends several signals (all contained within the macro) to turn the PS3 off. Hopefully its the former, which would make this a very attractive price.
If the power off sequence is contained within the device, then I'd have just a little concern on what will happen if the sequence ever needs to be modified. Is the firmware or the macro definition contained within the device upgradable? Its probably not likely that the power off sequence will need to be changed, but it is important to note that the more expensive devices out there I believe have taken this into consideration.

I guess we'll find out soon enough once user reviews come in!

Seems like if Sony can build a BT remote that sells for $20, they could somehow implement BT within the remote itself for less than $20 rather than charging $50 for this thing that has to be plugged in. :(

^^^ I'm not sure you mean... you do realize that this gadget is not for Sony's BT remote but for Logitech's line of IR remotes, right?

^^^ I'm not sure you mean... you do realize that this gadget is not for Sony's BT remote but for Logitech's line of IR remotes, right?

I think he means something like he would gladly pay like $20 extra for a 880 with IR and BT built in, being that sony can sell their BT remote for less than $20 it should be economically possible.

Seems like if Sony can build a BT remote that sells for $20, they could somehow implement BT within the remote itself for less than $20 rather than charging $50 for this thing that has to be plugged in. :(

^^^ I'm not sure you mean... you do realize that this gadget is not for Sony's BT remote but for Logitech's line of IR remotes, right?

I think TornadoTJ means that if Sony can build a Bluetooth remote for only $20 then Logitech ("they") can implement this feature in their remotes for less than $20 (instead of charging $50 for their addon).

If that's the case, Sony's BT remote has no IR capabilities at all. The Logitech device isn't just a remote but a converter from one signal format to another. This is what they might say is the reason for the higher price, but I too wish it were cheaper.

I'd read the Engadget bit a while back and was scanning Amazon.com for something else and found this advertised on my "My Amazon" page. Went to the product page and found that it was in stock (and available for "free" two-day shipping for Prime customers, which I am :)). If it works as advertised, this will make me sooooo happy :D. My frustration with having to keep the stupid Sony remote handy is such that I'd gladly pay more for it (and numerous people have paid considerably more for other solutions--a cottage industry dies with this product's release). I definitely don't blame Logitech for what they're charging--I blame Sony for making the product necessary at all.

There haven't been many PS3 exclusives which appeal to me, so I almost never play games with it, but I use the thing to play BDROMs and disc rips all the frickin' time. This plug-and-play solution is a godsend.

I think TornadoTJ means that if Sony can build a Bluetooth remote for only $20 then Logitech ("they") can implement this feature in their remotes for less than $20 (instead of charging $50 for their addon).It's quite possible that they will have future remotes with BT capabilities. At the very high end of their product line, they have remotes with wireless RF transmission and IR repeaters, so that you can put all of your equipment in a closed closet. That remote is going to cost a hell of lot more than any $60 converter gadget, and many of us already own Logitech Harmony remotes (I started with a Harmony SST-768, purchased years before Logitech bought the company).

It's quite possible that they will have future remotes with BT capabilities. At the very high end of their product line, they have remotes with wireless RF transmission and IR repeaters, so that you can put all of your equipment in a closed closet. That remote is going to cost a hell of lot more than any $60 converter gadget, and many of us already own Logitech Harmony remotes (I started with a Harmony SST-768, purchased years before Logitech bought the company).

You can get a Harmony 890 refurb on Amazon.com for $139 that includes the RF extender as well. That isn't very expensive compared to a $60 converter.

I'm not sure I would want a BT chip draining my remote's battery just so that I could control one single device that most people using the remote won't have. When there are more BT only devices then maybe include it, but from lessons learned I would hope those devices have IR as well.

I think he means something like he would gladly pay like $20 extra for a 880 with IR and BT built in, being that sony can sell their BT remote for less than $20 it should be economically possible.

Correct. And I have RF devices I need to operate as well, so adding $50-$60 to the price of the Harmony already, and you've got a pretty expensive setup. I'd much rather have the BT in the remote for $20 more. And, I'm really not worried about battery life since these high-end remotes come with a charging stand.

Sorry my post didn't make sense yesterday, rough day at work. I'm on call this week and had maybe 1.5 hours of sleep in the previous 2 days.

I'm hoping that now that Logitech has the BT connectivity worked out, their next gen remotes have it built in.

I'm hoping that now that Logitech has the BT connectivity worked out, their next gen remotes have it built in.

To control one device that already has a workaround? Doubt it.

The PS3, stupidly, doesn't even use the standard "Remote Control" Bluetooth profile.

Sort of like saying there'll never be a car docking solution that plays your iPhone through your stereo that also charges it at the same time, because Scosche released a workaround (the Passport). Workaround or not, several months later these new iPhone compatible docking stations came to market... for one device.

Actually, no, it is nothing like that.

There are already multiple ways to control the PS3 via IR.

The Harmony is a universal remote that relies on the fact that every device it controls has an IR port. It is one device made to control MANY different IR devices. IR is extremely cheap and simple to implement. Bluetooth is not.

The car dock for the iPhone is more analogous to the IR2BT or this new Logitech device.

If more bluetooth devices start to show up, then maybe you will start to see universal remotes that are made to control both them and IR devices. Until then, don't hold your breath. You can keep on waiting, and if it ever comes out, you can spend even more money on a completely new Harmony remote. Or you could just keep on using the one you have and buy this device or an IR2BT or any number of other devices that work perfectly to control the PS3 today.

I received mine in today and so far it works as advertised. It turns on just fine and it turns off just fine. Didnt play to much with it but everything seemed to be just fine when playing a movie back. They even added the x,triangle,square, and circle buttons on the front screen.

Shape, I don't have a Harmony, and if I did IR would not be enough, I'd need the RF also since I have a few RF devices (so, IR is NOT the only thing they make them for...).

So, I'd rather not spend $$$ on a Harmony with IR, then spend another $50-$60 on a device to make it work with the PS3. I'll continue to use my <$20 PS3 BD remote for now. Typically when I watch a movie, I don't need ANY remote anyway, and if I do reaching for the BD remote is no biggie.

I received mine in today and so far it works as advertised. It turns on just fine and it turns off just fine. Didnt play to much with it but everything seemed to be just fine when playing a movie back. They even added the x,triangle,square, and circle buttons on the front screen.Question...what is the power off button or is it a squence that is needed to be transmitted by the remote?

Shape, I don't have a Harmony, and if I did IR would not be enough, I'd need the RF also since I have a few RF devices (so, IR is NOT the only thing they make them for...).


The RF Harmony remote (890) doesn't work directly with RF devices. Instead, it transmits RF to an RF base station that translates that signal into IR. And you basically run wires from that base station to all of your devices and put IR emitters in front of the IR eyes on those devices.

So you couldn't control any of your RF devices directly with the Harmony 890.

There is no RF remote control standard. So it is really impossible to create a Harmony that would directly control RF devices.

IR, on the other hand is dead easy to record and play back.

So, I'd rather not spend $$$ on a Harmony with IR, then spend another $50-$60 on a device to make it work with the PS3. I'll continue to use my <$20 PS3 BD remote for now. Typically when I watch a movie, I don't need ANY remote anyway, and if I do reaching for the BD remote is no biggie.

Sounds like you aren't impacted at all, then. Enjoy the experience! :)

I had no idea that the RF was done that way. Well, that kills that plan too. :(

I do want a uni-remote, just want the right one. Until then, I wait.

I had no idea that the RF was done that way. Well, that kills that plan too. :(

I do want a uni-remote, just want the right one. Until then, I wait.



Then stop buying RF and Bluetooth only devices...

Question...what is the power off button or is it a squence that is needed to be transmitted by the remote?


I dont know what the Harmony does for a sequence but it seems to work. You can tell its doing something because the IR symbol stays on longer than normal.

The RF Harmony remote (890) doesn't work directly with RF devices. Instead, it transmits RF to an RF base station that translates that signal into IR. And you basically run wires from that base station to all of your devices and put IR emitters in front of the IR eyes on those devices.

So you couldn't control any of your RF devices directly with the Harmony 890.

There is no RF remote control standard. So it is really impossible to create a Harmony that would directly control RF devices.That's not entirely true. While there is no international standard for RF, X10 is extremely popular for home automation, as is Z-Wave (primarily for lighting control, although there are a few other things). The Harmony 890 has direct RF control of Z-Wave devices (possibly only lighting).

I dont know what the Harmony does for a sequence but it seems to work. You can tell its doing something because the IR symbol stays on longer than normal.ahh so please test something. turn off the PS3 with the harmony remote in an activity and before the IR sensor goes off completely, cover the remote. If the PS3 is still on, all the remote is doing all the sending of the complete IR sequence to shut off the PS3. I would have hoped they would have made it like the other devices that the remote sends 1 split second signal (your end is done and you can put the remote away), and then the converter box would just emit the entire BT sequence to shut off the PS3. In then end it just means you don't have to stand there pointing the remote for 5 seconds and a lot less accidentally putting the remote away before the off sequence is done.

I received mine in today and so far it works as advertised. It turns on just fine and it turns off just fine. Didnt play to much with it but everything seemed to be just fine when playing a movie back. They even added the x,triangle,square, and circle buttons on the front screen.My device has been shipped by Amazon, but won't get here until Friday. I've gone in and modified my Harmony remote set-up in anticipation. Since I have the "for Xbox 360" Harmony model, I removed X, Triangle, Square and Circle from the screen buttons and mapped them to the A, B, X, Y buttons on the face of the remote. I put some other things on the screen buttons, including "Power On/Off" and "PS". Strangely, there is no discrete "PowerOn" command for the PS3--just "PowerToggle" and "PowerOff". There's also no "PS" command, so I guessed that it's "Program", the only command that I found with no corresponding button on the PS3 remote.

I was surprised that they didn't map more buttons by default. Only "X" was mapped--no PLAY, PAUSE, STOP, FF, REW, etc. I mapped stuff to all but a few buttons (CHAN+, CHAN-, PREV, REC) cause I wasn't sure how I wanted to use them. I mapped all of the other 43 programmable buttons to something or other :).

ahh so please test something. turn off the PS3 with the harmony remote in an activity and before the IR sensor goes off completely, cover the remote. If the PS3 is still on, all the remote is doing all the sending of the complete IR sequence to shut off the PS3. I would have hoped they would have made it like the other devices that the remote sends 1 split second signal (your end is done and you can put the remote away), and then the converter box would just emit the entire BT sequence to shut off the PS3. In then end it just means you don't have to stand there pointing the remote for 5 seconds and a lot less accidentally putting the remote away before the off sequence is done.I sort of expected them to do it the way that you described as well, but but I doubt that it will bother me if it doesn't. I tend to push the button that I want, then put the remote down facing the equipment. You have to keep it pointed at the equipment when you change activities or turn everything off.

I sort of expected them to do it the way that you described as well, but but I doubt that it will bother me if it doesn't. I tend to push the button that I want, then put the remote down facing the equipment. You have to keep it pointed at the equipment when you change activities or turn everything off.yeah, except with my device at home I remember having to hold it there and you still can get errors sometimes if people other than you are using it. When my device was updated to what I mentioned prior, now as soon as the TV turns off I know the whole thing is done and I can put the remote down on its charger and I can see the PS3 getting turned off by the box in the background.

I sort of expected them to do it the way that you described as well, but but I doubt that it will bother me if it doesn't. I tend to push the button that I want, then put the remote down facing the equipment. You have to keep it pointed at the equipment when you change activities or turn everything off.

Waiting for the remote to finish sending the macro doesn't bother me either (I own an original IR2BT). But let me tell ya.... I don't know how many times I've had to explain to everyone else in the house why there is a 5+ second delay when turning everything off or when switching from a PS3 activity to watching TV. (I sure hope my wife doesn't read these forums).

ahh so please test something. turn off the PS3 with the harmony remote in an activity and before the IR sensor goes off completely, cover the remote. If the PS3 is still on, all the remote is doing all the sending of the complete IR sequence to shut off the PS3. I would have hoped they would have made it like the other devices that the remote sends 1 split second signal (your end is done and you can put the remote away), and then the converter box would just emit the entire BT sequence to shut off the PS3. In then end it just means you don't have to stand there pointing the remote for 5 seconds and a lot less accidentally putting the remote away before the off sequence is done.
You could adjust the time between "button presses" to reduce the time it takes to shutdown the PS3.

You could adjust the time between "button presses" to reduce the time it takes to shutdown the PS3.

Without going into too much detail, the issue with having a macro sent by the harmony remote to shut down the PS3 is due to the fact that the PS3 doesn't have a discrete OFF signal. Essentially, its replicating what you'd manually do to shut down the PS3 with a game controller: hold down the PS button for a few seconds, then navigate around the menus to shut down the PS3. Plus, the menus are different when playing a DVD versus playing a game, which complicates matters as well.

If, on your harmony remote, you select DEVICES>PS3>POWER OFF...what shows up on your display? Does it show the black screen first as though you held the PS button and then it selects Turn off system, or does it fade to black without displaying anything and power off immediately?

To those who have this, is it as responsive as the Sony BT remote?

I currently use a simple Sony programmable remote with the Nyko dongle and the responsiveness is not good.

Without going into too much detail, the issue with having a macro sent by the harmony remote to shut down the PS3 is due to the fact that the PS3 doesn't have a discrete OFF signal. Essentially, its replicating what you'd manually do to shut down the PS3 with a game controller: hold down the PS button for a few seconds, then navigate around the menus to shut down the PS3. Plus, the menus are different when playing a DVD versus playing a game, which complicates matters as well.It's a question of where the macro is implemented--in the IR-to-BT converter or in the remote. There's no reason why the IR converter can't have OFF, ON and/or PowerToggle IR codes which cause it to send BT macros.

The different menus don't complicate things much--"Turn Off the System" is always the next-to-last option, and it ignores DOWN if you're at the bottom of the list, so PS-for-2-seconds, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, UP, ENTER, ENTER will do the trick no matter which version of the menu you're on. The same sequence will actually work to turn the system back on, since PS-for-2-seconds will get things started and the rest of the sequence will be over before the system is in a state to respond to commands.

EDIT: It occurs to me that it's possible to have semi-discrete power codes for the PS3--basically "PowerToggle" and "PowerOn". Send the aforementioned macro for "PowerToggle" and just briefly send PS for "PowerOn" (which will do nothing if the PS3 is already on).

I will press the off on the ps3 and see what it does and then I will try to see if I block it but I believe it will stop sending the sequence and just stop where it is as you can see the IR symbol still being active for a few seconds after pressing off.

For the person asking it its responsive, its just as quick as the Sony remotes. My wife just watched a movie with no problems and everything worked just fine she said.

So if you turn on PS3 manually, then enter one of the activities that uses PS3, does it keep PS3 on or turn it off?

If it gets blocked then it will not turn itself off and get caught. The turn off sequence is PS button held down, down 3 times, up once then select and it turns off. Regardless of what screen you are on it always turn off. I watched it do its thing.

Stephenju, it will keep the PS3 on if its already on and you switch to that activity.

To those who have this, is it as responsive as the Sony BT remote?

I currently use a simple Sony programmable remote with the Nyko dongle and the responsiveness is not good.I'd like to know this answer, too. The Nyko dongle works, but it's frustratingly slow, and will sometimes miss commands. Plus, there are a whole bunch of unmapped buttons.

Scott

If it gets blocked then it will not turn itself off and get caught. The turn off sequence is PS button held down, down 3 times, up once then select and it turns off. Regardless of what screen you are on it always turn off. I watched it do its thing.

Stephenju, it will keep the PS3 on if its already on and you switch to that activity.

Thank very much for confirming this. So, it appears that the poweroff sequence is sent by a macro from the remote (like the first IR2BT) and NOT within the device itself, so its not as foolproof as the new IR2BTci or the PS3IR-1000.

Still, for those unable to get the first edition IR2BT, this provides essentially the same functionality at a similar price point.

I'd like to know this answer, too. The Nyko dongle works, but it's frustratingly slow, and will sometimes miss commands. Plus, there are a whole bunch of unmapped buttons.

Scott

I had bought the Nyko and never liked it for that reason. The harmony is just as responsive as the Sony remotes.

Thank very much for confirming this. So, it appears that the poweroff sequence is sent by a macro from the remote (like the first IR2BT) and NOT within the device itself, so its not as foolproof as the new IR2BTci or the PS3IR-1000.

Still, for those unable to get the first edition IR2BT, this provides essentially the same functionality at a similar price point.Exactly, so nothing new here. A rebadged IR2BT for 10 bones more and fancier external appearance. For those that wanted the IR2BT, but missed the boat, this is your ticket.

I had bought the Nyko and never liked it for that reason. The harmony is just as responsive as the Sony remotes.Thanks, that's good to know. The Nyko was cheap enough, but it's a source of frustration every time I use it.

Scott

Stephenju, it will keep the PS3 on if its already on and you switch to that activity.

Even if you started with everything off (no activity) then touch the power button on PS3 to turn it on? Cool.

Even if you started with everything off (no activity) then touch the power button on PS3 to turn it on? Cool.

I had everything off, turned on the PS3 from the PS3 power button. I then went to Watch a movie and everything turned on as should and the PS3 never turned off.

I had everything off, turned on the PS3 from the PS3 power button. I then went to Watch a movie and everything turned on as should and the PS3 never turned off.


The power-on sequence is probably just hitting the PS button (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I think doing the reverse test is important to know as well: if you have everything on and the Harmony thinks everything is on (the current Activity is Watch Blu-Ray, for example), then turn the PS3 off manually and then turn off everything with the Harmony remote, does it turn the PS3 back on?

I think doing the reverse test is important to know as well: if you have everything on and the Harmony thinks everything is on (the current Activity is Watch Blu-Ray, for example), then turn the PS3 off manually and then turn off everything with the Harmony remote, does it turn the PS3 back on?If the Harmony thinks that the PS3 is on and you hit the power button on the remote to turn your entire HT system off, I don't see how it can avoid turning the PS3 back on, since the code to turn it off involves the PS button. But why would you ever do that?

If the Harmony thinks that the PS3 is on and you hit the power button on the remote to turn your entire HT system off, I don't see how it can avoid turning the PS3 back on, since the code to turn it off involves the PS button. But why would you ever do that?

I agree that it will turn the PS3 back on, I was just thinking that anyone reading this thread might think it would be an equally valid concern going the other way, especially if he/she is unaware that the PS3 lacks a dedicated OFF function. My Samsung TV, for example, has separate commands for ON versus OFF, so the TV will remain off in the above scenario.

For reference, there are higher priced devices (notably the IR2BTci & PS3IR-1000) that have power-sensing capabilities (simply by checking if the PS3 USB ports are powered), that take care of this issue.

For reference, there are higher priced devices (notably the IR2BTci & PS3IR-1000) that have power-sensing capabilities (simply by checking if the PS3 USB ports are powered), that take care of this issue.I know the PS3IR-PRO doesn't have power sensing but the box was designed to not respond to any command other than the PS home key after a shut down (and since the power off sequence is initiated by a totally separate IR command (the box does the rest) it in essence has been created with discrete on/off commands. And for those that routinely use universal remotes, discretes are a very important thing to have.

The power-on sequence is probably just hitting the PS button (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I think doing the reverse test is important to know as well: if you have everything on and the Harmony thinks everything is on (the current Activity is Watch Blu-Ray, for example), then turn the PS3 off manually and then turn off everything with the Harmony remote, does it turn the PS3 back on?


I can check that later when I get home. Cant remember if I tried that yesterday.

Exactly, so nothing new here. A rebadged IR2BT for 10 bones more and fancier external appearance. For those that wanted the IR2BT, but missed the boat, this is your ticket.

Too bad. Looks like there is still a market out there for the other devices, even the base model (non-power sensing) ones. You would think that they would have at least embedded the macro into the adapter. But doing it this way allows them to not require their device to be firmware updateable. It would be funny if the new 2.76 firmware broke this device the same way the IR2BT was broken during a past firmware update.

It would be funny if the new 2.76 firmware broke this device the same way the IR2BT was broken during a past firmware update.

I already had downloaded the new firmware before running all those tests so I can still say it works fine.

I agree that it will turn the PS3 back on, I was just thinking that anyone reading this thread might think it would be an equally valid concern going the other way, especially if he/she is unaware that the PS3 lacks a dedicated OFF function. My Samsung TV, for example, has separate commands for ON versus OFF, so the TV will remain off in the above scenario.

For reference, there are higher priced devices (notably the IR2BTci & PS3IR-1000) that have power-sensing capabilities (simply by checking if the PS3 USB ports are powered), that take care of this issue.Yeah. As I noted in a post above, the best that you can do in this case is semi-discrete control--"PowerOn" and "PowerToggle"--because the off sequence will always turn it on if it's off. Life in the big city.

I don't think that I'd be interested in sacrificing a USB port to power sensing. Again, I don't see me voluntarily turning the thing off manually. Of course, if "Auto Off" is on, it might have turned itself off.
It would be funny if the new 2.76 firmware broke this device the same way the IR2BT was broken during a past firmware update.Just curious--how was the IR2BT broken by a firmware update?

I know the PS3IR-PRO doesn't have power sensing but the box was designed to not respond to any command other than the PS home key after a shut down (and since the power off sequence is initiated by a totally separate IR command (the box does the rest) it in essence has been created with discrete on/off commands. And for those that routinely use universal remotes, discretes are a very important thing to have.



The PS3IR-PRo has this problem. Shutdown and on are all done by using the ps key, its done by the box when turning it off, but the box still sends a ps key command, and you can even watch it on screen. Thats why the new model has power sensing.

I had an IR pro i sold today and picked up an IR 1000.

The issue is like all other non power sensing devices. Sometimes if I went to put a game in, or turn the ps3 off, I would do it on the ps3 itself. Then perhaps I would watch tv, and I have an activity to turn my entire system off. This is when the ps3 would turn back on because the off button also involved the ps key, and I turned it off on the machine, the firmware upgrade attempted to track it, but it only tracked it as long as you always used the remote to turn it off and on. If you always use the remote though, then your right, off wont turn it on. But it does get out of sync if you happen to turn it off or on, on the ps3 itself. And since alot of times I turn it on when i put in a game on the ps3 itself, it was out of sync alot.

From the Logitech blog for those interested.

http://blog.logitech.com/2009/05/12/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-now-available/

First, we’ve created default button mapping, taking the standard 51 PS3 commands and applying them to the most appropriate hard and soft (LCD) buttons on the Harmony remotes. You just need to update your remote by adding the updated PS3 device to your online Harmony account. You may still want to tweak your own button configuration — and all of these commands can be assigned to any buttons you choose.

Above and beyond the standard commands, we’ve added a PS3 power off macro command that allows Harmony users to turn the PS3 — and their entire entertainment system — off with a single touch. And one other little nugget — in addition to a PS button, we’ve added a “PS hold” command because the system recognizes a difference between holding a PS button and tapping it. All of these commands can be assigned to any Harmony remote button.

And yes, dogdoctor, I'm LTTP with universal remotes. I've always wanted something like a Harmony but couldn't see myself paying upwards of $200. The other day, my wife said "we have too many remotes". She only needed to say that once! LOL. I started the hunt..... Found an 880 for $59.99. I've heard its a decent solution and can't wait! Yea, its an older model but it should work fine and with this adapter, I'm only in for about 130 bucks. Oh, yea....its wife approved!

Just curious--how was the IR2BT broken by a firmware update?

I think it was firmware 2.30. It lost sync with the IR2BT if you powered on using the adapter. The workaround was to power on manually (disc insert or power button) and then the IR2BT would work as expected. The maker allowed a repair program where you paid shipping and he fixed it and mailed it back. I sent mine in for repair and had it back within a week. It has worked ever since.

Harmony question. Let's say I'm watching TV and I want to crank up the PS3. Can you setup macros in these remotes so that with a single button press (let's call it "Play PS3") it will turn on the ps3, and change the sources (receive and tv)? Or let's take it a step further. Could you set up macros utilizing the XMB? (e.g. a "play music" macro would do the same thing mentioned above but also move the XMB to the music area and play tracks on shuffle).

Just throwing it out there. I don't have the remote yet and haven't read much into the capabilities other than the basic remote consolidation.

Harmony question. Let's say I'm watching TV and I want to crank up the PS3. Can you setup macros in these remotes so that with a single button press (let's call it "Play PS3") it will turn on the ps3, and change the sources (receive and tv)?

Yes, the Harmony software is designed around "activities," and automatically generates macros to switch between your activities. It remembers the on/off state of your components, so it will send a "power toggle" signal to your receiver if it was off during your previous activity, but not if it was on.

Or let's take it a step further. Could you set up macros utilizing the XMB? (e.g. a "play music" macro would do the same thing mentioned above but also move the XMB to the music area and play tracks on shuffle).


I haven't tried this specifically, but the Harmony definitely supports custom macros.

(And of course, both your examples would require something like the new Harmony PS3 adapter to turn on the PS3.)

Yes, the Harmony software is designed around "activities," and automatically generates macros to switch between your activities. It remembers the on/off state of your components, so it will send a "power toggle" signal to your receiver if it was off during your previous activity, but not if it was on.



I haven't tried this specifically, but the Harmony definitely supports custom macros.

(And of course, both your examples would require something like the new Harmony PS3 adapter to turn on the PS3.)


Thanks! Wow, I don't realize what I've been missing. This is an all new level of laziness! :D

The PS3IR-PRo has this problem. Shutdown and on are all done by using the ps key, its done by the box when turning it off, but the box still sends a ps key command, and you can even watch it on screen. That's why the new model has power sensing.You might have an different firmware because the PRO I have doesn't have that issue. I tested it out last night just to confirm. The PRO uses the PS IR key converted to PS BT key to turn on the PS3 (and the PRO). The OFF key is different. If I recall it was set up a some obscure PS2 IR command. The point is big here. When the box gets this OFF command, it sends out the PS3 BT shutdown sequence and also turns the PRO off and disables any other IR reception other than the PS key. So even if you send the OFF command (since it is not the PS key), the box wont respond again and turn the PS3 back on.

As far as I can tell - the PS3IR-1000, does it exactly in the same fashion, it just has the added back up of power sensing.

It would be funny if the new 2.76 firmware broke this device the same way the IR2BT was broken during a past firmware update.I think that would be very hard to do after the IR2BT mistake. The only way I could see them breaking it would be to change the button press sequence to power off the PS3 making it very difficult for the logitech users to get the right sequence. All the competitors now have firmware upgrade abilities, and that ensure them the ability to alter pretty much any of the programming the adapter may need to continue to communicate with the PS3.

Thanks! Wow, I don't realize what I've been missing. This is an all new level of laziness! :DYes! You were really LTTP! Trust me, once you get the 880 (I have one), and if your equipment is relatively new, the set up should be a breeze. Your going to suddenly realize there are a lot more IR commands for your devices that the manufacturer never decided to show you. But most important, you wife will be very happy like mine. 7 remotes consolidated to 1! Of course your harmony can basically control (as it can learn) any IR device you have. Some people have their house lighting on the darn remote. :D

I think that would be very hard to do after the IR2BT mistake. The only way I could see them breaking it would be to change the button press sequence to power off the PS3 making it very difficult for the logitech users to get the right sequence. All the competitors now have firmware upgrade abilities, and that ensure them the ability to alter pretty much any of the programming the adapter may need to continue to communicate with the PS3.

How would you update the Harmony adapter's firmware? From the online manual I see no USB port, just a power connector and a 3.5mm IR input jack.

The power-on sequence is probably just hitting the PS button (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I think doing the reverse test is important to know as well: if you have everything on and the Harmony thinks everything is on (the current Activity is Watch Blu-Ray, for example), then turn the PS3 off manually and then turn off everything with the Harmony remote, does it turn the PS3 back on?


Even though we knew the outcome I can say with certain that it will turn back on your PS3. This could be a problem if you are playing a game and not thinking about it turn off your PS3 from your game controller then hit off or change activities on the harmony. Will have to make a mental note of this.

Sorry,I meant to mention this last night, is after updating the PS3 the adapter will not turn on the PS3. You will have to manually or use a sony remote to turn it on. Once it turns on then you are ok to use the harmony and it will turn on and off as normal. I am going to let Logitch support know about this.

How would you update the Harmony adapter's firmware? From the online manual I see no USB port, just a power connector and a 3.5mm IR input jack.I don't think you can. That is what would appear to be an inherent flaw in the design.

Sorry,I meant to mention this last night, is after updating the PS3 the adapter will not turn on the PS3. You will have to manually or use a sony remote to turn it on. Once it turns on then you are ok to use the harmony and it will turn on and off as normal. I am going to let Logitch support know about this.Oh boy, that isn't good. This device is starting to sound alot like the orginal version of the IR2BT. Not good.

I haven't tried this specifically, but the Harmony definitely supports custom macros.Not really anymore. They used to let you dig around and modify the XML code generated for various functions, but now the most you can do is define sequences of command to bind to a button (which can be composed of commands from a mixture of different devices). The effect of being subsumed by Logitech, I suppose :).

BTW--what is that second hole on the back of the unit for?

Once it turns on then you are ok to use the harmony and it will turn on and off as normal.

do you mean that you only have to turn the PS3 on manually (PS3 controller or on console) once after the update and that after that the Harmony will turn it on and off?

...or just that the Harmony will turn it OFF?

BTW--what is that second hole on the back of the unit for?

Hard connection port for Harmony RF Wireless Extender (cable not included)

do you mean that you only have to turn the PS3 on manually (PS3 controller or on console) once after the update and that after that the Harmony will turn it on and off?

...or just that the Harmony will turn it OFF?

Yes just once manually then everything works as it should.

Yes, the Harmony software is designed around "activities," and automatically generates macros to switch between your activities. It remembers the on/off state of your components, so it will send a "power toggle" signal to your receiver if it was off during your previous activity, but not if it was on.
Is this specific to certain models?

My parents had gotten me a Harmony remote from Costco for Christmas last year, so I'm pretty sure it's bottom-rung.

Also, my parent's Harmony remote is probably 4+ years old, would theirs still be able to have the ability to remember the previous state of the hardware?

You might have an different firmware because the PRO I have doesn't have that issue. I tested it out last night just to confirm. The PRO uses the PS IR key converted to PS BT key to turn on the PS3 (and the PRO). The OFF key is different. If I recall it was set up a some obscure PS2 IR command. The point is big here. When the box gets this OFF command, it sends out the PS3 BT shutdown sequence and also turns the PRO off and disables any other IR reception other than the PS key. So even if you send the OFF command (since it is not the PS key), the box wont respond again and turn the PS3 back on.

As far as I can tell - the PS3IR-1000, does it exactly in the same fashion, it just has the added back up of power sensing.


I can gurantee you will have that issue, I have the latest firmware, and this is the entire reason for power sensing.

I will recreate the issue tonight with steps so you can see. Also remember you need to wait a minute or two before the pro responds to commands. If your trying it as soon as its off, it wont do anything.

Even though the remote is not sending the ps command when you power off, the box or pro itself is still sending a ps command, there is no other way to turn off the ps3 unless you do it manually, you need to hit the ps key, only with the pro the box itself sends the command, pressing the ps key is still in the chain.


For now try this, turn the ps3 on with your remote, then turn it off manually. Now wait a few minutes (typically I would watch tv for awhile) then hit the off button. The ps3 will turn on. I was just reading this in the forums and other users on 1.09 have this issue. The pro thinks the ps3 is still on because you turned it off manually. So it tries to send the power off command which involves sending the ps key from the box, and it will turn it on, even though its trying to turn it off.

In my case this would happen when i turned the ps3 off manually, watched tv, maybe played 360, and then i have an all devices off activity which hits the off button on all my devices. It would send the ps3 the off command which utilizes the ps key (from the pro itself) and will turn it on.

If you always power it off and on with the remote, its fine, you wont have this problem.

Here is a post with 1.09 firmware where the admin on the forum explains the same issue with the pro.

"You powered the PS3 off by some other means. The Pro didn't realize that the PS3 was already off, so it launched the power off macro. Then the Pro though the PS3 was off so it started ignoring you button presses. Once that happens you should either send a power toggle command from your remote to make the Pro turn on and get it back in sync, or just shut the PS3 down manually. Either way once the Pro and PS3 are back in the same state you shouldn't have any problems (unless you manage to get it mixed up again)."

And here is a link to a full post where mike the creator of the pro, and admin discuss this issue with 1.09 firmware.

The admins suggestion for a long macro was how i was doing it somewhat reliably but turning it on and back off with 20 second delays was not ideal.

http://ps3ir.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=121.0

Is this specific to certain models?

My parents had gotten me a Harmony remote from Costco for Christmas last year, so I'm pretty sure it's bottom-rung.

Also, my parent's Harmony remote is probably 4+ years old, would theirs still be able to have the ability to remember the previous state of the hardware?It is true of every model of Harmony remote ever made--activity orientation and state memory are part of their basic paradigm. The first one I bought was what I believe to have been their second model, the SST-768 (you can read its ancient RemoteCentral review here (http://www.remotecentral.com/sst768/index.html)). It worked much the same way as the latest and greatest models.

My only concern is that I sometimes leave the PS3 on when the wife wants to watch TV.

I'll have to play around with the settings to make sure that it doesn't shut the PS3 off unless I tell it to. And, if I'm not on the PS3 configuration, but the PS3 is still on, when I shut off the TV/Receiver, it probably won't shut off the PS3, right?

I think I'll just buy this for my parents (who only use the PS3 for Blu-Ray), and try it out to see if it'll suit my needs.

How would you update the Harmony adapter's firmware? From the online manual I see no USB port, just a power connector and a 3.5mm IR input jack.


I asked Logitech how the adapter would handle updates and this was their reply on the blog:

"System updates for the PS3 won’t affect the functionality of the adapter and Harmony remote."

any tips for pairing this bad boy up with the PS3. tried the easy to follow pictures on the poster. no luck the PS3 just sits in scanning mode. downloaded PS3 FW update. still no luck. called tech support 25 minutes later no luck. Tech support said I'll get a call from warranty soon. I can't believe I'm the only PS3 owner to have a problem. Mine is a dec 06 60 gig ps3 (of course the HDD is now 320 cause that's how pimps roll).

My only concern is that I sometimes leave the PS3 on when the wife wants to watch TV.

I'll have to play around with the settings to make sure that it doesn't shut the PS3 off unless I tell it to. And, if I'm not on the PS3 configuration, but the PS3 is still on, when I shut off the TV/Receiver, it probably won't shut off the PS3, right?

I think I'll just buy this for my parents (who only use the PS3 for Blu-Ray), and try it out to see if it'll suit my needs.

You can set the harmony to turn off everything else when you switch activities or not, so that shouldn't be a problem

My only concern is that I sometimes leave the PS3 on when the wife wants to watch TV.

I'll have to play around with the settings to make sure that it doesn't shut the PS3 off unless I tell it to.You can program that per device. For instance, you might not want it to ever turn off your DVR. Right now, I have mine programmed to not turn off my Xbox, so when I switch activities to "Play Xbox", I have to hit the GUIDE button to start the console if it's in standby state.

And here is a link to a full post where mike the creator of the pro, and admin discuss this issue with 1.09 firmware.

The admins suggestion for a long macro was how i was doing it somewhat reliably but turning it on and back off with 20 second delays was not ideal.

http://ps3ir.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=121.0Ahh. I see you and I are talking about the same thing. But you are introducing human error. The box (PRO) works just as advertised and the discrete on and off work well. But you are correct, the discrete off is in reality a partial discrete. If you turn off the PS3 manually with a controller or the power button, you're correct, the PS3 will be turned on by the exectution of the off sequence. But that was a human override of the Harmony system and a known issue with the way the PS3 uses power on/off commands starting with the PS key. But there is no fault with the PRO. If you use the PRO as indicated and don't override the Harmony system, it works just fine without the need for power sensing. I manually turned off the PS3 with the power off command from the Harmony remote. Then I executed the whole system poweroff from the Harmony and the PRO didn't respond and turn the PS3 back on. It's a nice touch to have powersensing, but not a required one. Like I said, either in this thread or another, the powersensing of the 1000, just adds an added backup feature to protect our equipment from need to turn something off without using the remote. But if you choose to not use the universal remote to control the on/off state of devices, then why did you get one in the first place. (and I'm not talking about relatives that have no concept of what the one remote to rule them all is and they go about turn stuff on and off with other remotes confusing the hell out of the Harmony :p)

My only concern is that I sometimes leave the PS3 on when the wife wants to watch TV.

I'll have to play around with the settings to make sure that it doesn't shut the PS3 off unless I tell it to. And, if I'm not on the PS3 configuration, but the PS3 is still on, when I shut off the TV/Receiver, it probably won't shut off the PS3, right?

I think I'll just buy this for my parents (who only use the PS3 for Blu-Ray), and try it out to see if it'll suit my needs.Right, when you hit the power off button on the remote - it will shut down all devices thought to be on. So what you might need to create is a "Watch TV/PS3 on" where if you start with the PS3 activity, you can just go to the "Watch TV/PS3 on" instead of the "Watch TV" activity and the PS3 (as long as added to that activity) will remain on.

To be fair - I do a fair share of downloading in the background at night while watching TV. What I do, power on the PS3 (via remote), set the downloads, tell the PS3 to turn off once downloads complete, unplug the IR to BT converter and change activities to watch TV. The PS3 remains on until it is done and then it turns itself off. I plug the converter back in the next time I'm going to power up and away I go. It takes the step of unplugging and pluggin in the converter, but I also don't have to have multiple watch tv activities.

Ahh. I see you and I are talking about the same thing. But you are introducing human error. The box (PRO) works just as advertised and the discrete on and off work well. But you are correct, the discrete off is in reality a partial discrete. If you turn off the PS3 manually with a controller or the power button, you're correct, the PS3 will be turned on by the exectution of the off sequence. But that was a human override of the Harmony system and a known issue with the way the PS3 uses power on/off commands starting with the PS key. But there is no fault with the PRO. If you use the PRO as indicated and don't override the Harmony system, it works just fine without the need for power sensing. I manually turned off the PS3 with the power off command from the Harmony remote. Then I executed the whole system poweroff from the Harmony and the PRO didn't respond and turn the PS3 back on. It's a nice touch to have powersensing, but not a required one. Like I said, either in this thread or another, the powersensing of the 1000, just adds an added backup feature to protect our equipment from need to turn something off without using the remote. But if you choose to not use the universal remote to control the on/off state of devices, then why did you get one in the first place. (and I'm not talking about relatives that have no concept of what the one remote to rule them all is and they go about turn stuff on and off with other remotes confusing the hell out of the Harmony :p)

I actually own a universal remote, or urc control, not a harmony fan. I actually just customized my mx810 with custom icons, I was surprised the 1100 cant even do that. Sorry for the jab at harmony fans, I do think they make some nice remotes, just not enough customization, but thats irrelivant.

Anyway I have no need for software tracking of devices. I think urc just added that to the mx-810 a few months ago. I have discrete commands for all my equipment, so no need for the remote to try to track devices. THe odd item that has no discrete like my flea processor just stays on. Almost everything else has a discrete on off. Even my projector benq w5000 didnt have discrete on and off, but i somehow lucked out and found the on button for an older model actually turned mine on. So i lucked into another discrete code. So essentially I dont need remote tracking. The ps3 was the only thing that caused problems, everything else i could turn on and off manually if i want and it always worked with discrete commands.

You are right, basically with a home automation system i should be doing everything by the remote, but with kids and freinds constantly visiting weekends, drinks, and other things get in the way and you have people turning things on manually, and even yourself at times turning things on manually, sometimes i put in a game, then launch the activity on the remote (dropping screen, turning off lights, turning on projector, switching inputs, ect..)

Its more a habit of not having a universal remote for long, only 2 years, and a number of years with many remotes.

Is this available in Canada anywhere? Alternatively, has anyone order one from a US site that ships to Canada?

Right, when you hit the power off button on the remote - it will shut down all devices thought to be on. So what you might need to create is a "Watch TV/PS3 on" where if you start with the PS3 activity, you can just go to the "Watch TV/PS3 on" instead of the "Watch TV" activity and the PS3 (as long as added to that activity) will remain on.I don't think that it's possible to have a "Watch TV/PS3 on" activity, since whether or not to turn the PS3 on and off around activity switches is an attribute of the PS3 device, not of an activity. In any case, it's not necessary--just set the PS3 device attributes such that it doesn't turn it on and off around activity switches and turn the PS3 on and off manually. If you're afraid that you'll leave the PS3 on unintentionally, use the PS3's System Auto Off Power Save setting.

This is the way that I have my Xbox set up now and the way that I've set the PS3 to work (my adapter arrives from Amazon today :D).

anyone else have problems turning on the ps3 with this since the 2.76 update??

I don't think that it's possible to have a "Watch TV/PS3 on" activity, since whether or not to turn the PS3 on and off around activity switches is an attribute of the PS3 device, not of an activity. In any case, it's not necessary--just set the PS3 device attributes such that it doesn't turn it on and off around activity switches and turn the PS3 on and off manually. If you're afraid that you'll leave the PS3 on unintentionally, use the PS3's System Auto Off Power Save setting.

This is the way that I have my Xbox set up now and the way that I've set the PS3 to work (my adapter arrives from Amazon today :D).Sure you can. You need to create a "watch tv" which is TV/AVR/Tivo or whatever. Then you can go back and make a second "watch tv", but this time you can add customize the start up sequence and add devices to the activity. So just add the PS3 and rename to "watch tv/PS3 On". Therefore if you ever start with the "watch/play PS3" activity, but then want to switch to TV with the PS3 running in the background, you would just push the activity "watch tv/PS3 on" and the harmony would change all the inputs to your TV activity, but since the PS3 is in both activities it would leave the PS3 on. (like it does for the TV, AVR, or any devices that are in multiple activities). But you are correct, you could just manually control the PS3 too. But where is the fun in that? :D

Sure you can. You need to create a "watch tv" which is TV/AVR/Tivo or whatever. Then you can go back and make a second "watch tv", but this time you can add customize the start up sequence and add devices to the activity. So just add the PS3 and rename to "watch tv/PS3 On". Therefore if you ever start with the "watch/play PS3" activity, but then want to switch to TV with the PS3 running in the background, you would just push the activity "watch tv/PS3 on" and the harmony would change all the inputs to your TV activity, but since the PS3 is in both activities it would leave the PS3 on. (like it does for the TV, AVR, or any devices that are in multiple activities). But you are correct, you could just manually control the PS3 too. But where is the fun in that? :DOkay, I concede that it could be done that way, but if you switch to any activity from "Watch TV/PS3 On" to any activity other than "Play PS3" it would turn the PS3 off (unless, of course, you added the PS3 as a dummy device to all of your activities :)).

I'm somewhat pissed at Harmony. While setting up for the PS3, it told me that there was a new version of the device for my model TiVo, so I switched to it. It ruined the activity definition, setting up a set of button bindings that render it pretty much useless, by leaving me with no "TiVo" button and no "Now Playing" button :rolleyes:. Jerks :mad:. EDIT: When I went in to repair the button mappings, I found that some functions (like "List" :rolleyes:) weren't even defined for the new device. I reverted to the old device definition, which I'd merely renamed, and magically all of my bindings returned (more or less--it made one change that I might adopt :)).

Okay, I concede that it could be done that way, but if you switch to any activity from "Watch TV/PS3 On" to any activity other than "Play PS3" it would turn the PS3 off (unless, of course, you added the PS3 as a dummy device to all of your activities :)).Yes, that is the very way some people get around it. IMHO it's an ugly work around. I'm more of a unplug the adaptor one the PS3 is on if you want it to stay on while you go do something else.
I'm somewhat pissed at Harmony. While setting up for the PS3, it told me that there was a new version of the device for my model TiVo, so I switched to it. It ruined the activity definition, setting up a set of button bindings that render it pretty much useless, by leaving me with no "TiVo" button and no "Now Playing" button :rolleyes:. Jerks :mad:. EDIT: When I went in to repair the button mappings, I found that some functions (like "List" :rolleyes:) weren't even defined for the new device. I reverted to the old device definition, which I'd merely renamed, and magically all of my bindings returned (more or less--it made one change that I might adopt :)).Yeah, I have been burned to many time now too. If my devices are working fine and there is a new update, I flat refuse to update it. They give you this nice message, "all your previous settings, modifications, will be retained". Bull Crap. It screws it up royally every time. That one of my minor, but major, gripes of Harmony.

Logitech Harmony Adapter for Playstation 3 now shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00267S7XW?ie=UTF8&tag=gt1000873429-20

Logitech Harmony Adapter for Playstation 3 now shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00267S7XW?ie=UTF8&tag=gt1000873429-20Thanks, but you should read the thread before posting. That was announced three days ago, in this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16444074#post16444074) post (101 posts back). That poster (emartins) has had one for the last couple of days and we've been discussing his experience with it. I ordered one from Amazon which should be here today.

I had quite the little scare today. I got this thing, selected the "Play PS3" activity on my remote, plugged the adapter in and paired it with my PS3, then...nothing. The thing would not respond to any of the commands that I had mapped to buttons on my remote. I repeated the pairing operation a few times to no effect, then went back into my remote's configuration. When I looked at the PS3 device settings, I was informed that there was a new version of the device available. I created a new device using that version and plugged it into the activity. After I performed the "Update Remote" operation it worked just fine, including turning the PS3 on and off.

I'd noticed before that there was no PS code in the old device definition; the new definition contains that, PSHold and a slew of other things. When I changed to using the new version of the device and updated the remote, everything works just fine now, including turning the PS3 on and off, despite the allegation that it won't turn it on after the 2.76 PS3 firmware update. (I went back and changed the device setting to "on all the time", so now I manually turn it on and off).

Very cool. In a Craig-from-South-Park voice: "This makes me sooooo happy." :).

If you're looking for more user experiences, I too am an owner of this adaptor. A++ in my book. Does exactly what I expected it to do.

Only down side is that because it's IR, sometime I forget to point the remote at the actual unit. I've been used to the BT remote and its lack of need to be directional.

Only complaint so far, and it's a complaint about my muscle memory, not the unit.

Having used it for an evening watching a few video files and a Blu-ray disc, I give it high marks as well. I was forever picking up the Harmony and trying to control the PS3 with it--not a problem now. I'm used to having to point the Harmony at my home entertainment rig, and probably pointed the BT remote at it as well, so I don't have Roger That's problem :).

It's interesting that, unlike IR devices programmed into the Harmony, use of this thing completely disables use of the old remote, since it binds to the PS3 as the BT remote.

A couple of design demerits--as noted in posts above, they probably should have incorporated the PowerOff macro into the device itself. Of course, new features of the PS3 GUI might require a tweak of that macro (perhaps a new menu for PSHold somewhere, longer than any of the previous ones), but I also think that they should have added a USB port to allow upgrading the firmware, which would also give the option for power sensing. Of course, that would have increased the cost of materials and therefore the price.

In all, this is a great option for Harmony owners, or people who intend to purchase a Harmony. Set up is a breeze, as long as the Harmony software gives you the latest version of the device :rolleyes:.

I don't know about power off, but when I hold the softkey for the "PS" button, it brings up the menu just like the PS button on a controller would (giving you the option to shut off the whole system, or just the controller).

Is that what you're referring to?

I should note that I'm using a Harmony One. Don't know if that makes a difference.

No. There's a command for the PS3 device called "PowerOff". It's a sequence which presses and holds the PS button, scrolls down a few to hit the bottom selection, scrolls up one to "Turn Off the System", presses ENTER, then presses ENTER again to say "Yes" to the next prompt. I have it bound to one of the "additional buttons" on the side of the screen.

It's actually in the default mappings for my remote (Harmony for Xbox 360), on one of the side-of-screen "additional button" pages. Check to see if you have it.

Of course, I don't use the default mappings--I've mapped something to just about every button on my remote:

Button|Device|Command||Button|Device|Command
Channel Down|PS3|StepBack||Rewind|PS3|Rewind
Channel Up|PS3|StepForward||Fast Forward|PS3|FastForward
Up|PS3|DirectionUp||Pause|PS3|Pause
Down|PS3|DirectionDown||Prev|PS3|Return
Left|PS3|DirectionLeft||1|PS3|1
Right|PS3|DirectionRight||2|PS3|2
OK|PS3|Enter||3|PS3|3
Menu|PS3|PopUpMenu||4|PS3|4
Exit|PS3|TopMenu||5|PS3|5
Y|PS3|Square||6|PS3|6
X|PS3|X||7|PS3|7
A|PS3|Triangle||8|PS3|8
B|PS3|Circle||9|PS3|9
Back|PS3|Return||*|PS3|Subtitle
Info|PS3|Display||0|PS3|0
Stop|PS3|Stop||#|PS3|Audio
Skip Back|PS3|Prev||Clear|PS3|Clear
Skip Forward|PS3|Next(NEXT)||Display|PS3|Display
Play|PS3|Play||Title|PS3|Time
Record|PS3|PSHold||Enter|PS3|Eject

Sorry for the noob question, but does this adapter work with said a cable company remote (motorola) or TV remote to control PS3? Or does this adapter work only with Harmony remotes?

Guys; check this out... ENGADGET has tested it... the wait is over:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/12/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-playstation-3-official-real-an/

Sorry for the noob question, but does this adapter work with said a cable company remote (motorola) or TV remote to control PS3? Or does this adapter work only with Harmony remotes?It's designed to work with Harmony remotes. Someone will eventually publish the hex codes for the IR signals that it sends, so you could program a good universal remote to send them (remotes that you program by hooking them to a PC, like the Harmony). If you have an inexpensive learning remote and know someone with a Harmony, you could program the Harmony for the device and "teach" the learning remote the codes.

Any Harmony remote will work, and you can get one fairly cheaply (see this (http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/remote-controls/harmony/p/338/form_keyword=harmony%20remote/st=sort/sortby=priceA)). They're a good investment, but if you need to buy one, it will obviously increase the cost of using the adapter.

I found this (http://shop.remoteshoppe.com/category.sc?categoryId=14) interesting list of alternative solutions. Some of them are very inexpensive.

I found this (http://shop.remoteshoppe.com/category.sc?categoryId=14) interesting list of alternative solutions. Some of them are very inexpensive.Here is the AVS equivalent (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016741) user discussion thread which also includes the IR4PS3 not listed at Remote Shoppe.

It's designed to work with Harmony remotes. Someone will eventually publish the hex codes for the IR signals that it sends, so you could program a good universal remote to send them (remotes that you program by hooking them to a PC, like the Harmony). If you have an inexpensive learning remote and know someone with a Harmony, you could program the Harmony for the device and "teach" the learning remote the codes.

Any Harmony remote will work, and you can get one fairly cheaply (see this (http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/remote-controls/harmony/p/338/form_keyword=harmony%20remote/st=sort/sortby=priceA)). They're a good investment, but if you need to buy one, it will obviously increase the cost of using the adapter.

I found this (http://shop.remoteshoppe.com/category.sc?categoryId=14) interesting list of alternative solutions. Some of them are very inexpensive.

Thanks for clearing that out for me and the information links.

One complaint, that is probably better directed to Sony, enabling the Harmony adapter on the PS3, seems to disable the native PS3 remote, which stinks, as I like to use it in the the other room to control my PS3 (I have long HDMI on a switch run to another room). Any tips, or is that just the way it is?

One complaint, that is probably better directed to Sony, enabling the Harmony adapter on the PS3, seems to disable the native PS3 remote, which stinks, as I like to use it in the the other room to control my PS3 (I have long HDMI on a switch run to another room). Any tips, or is that just the way it is?


Probably just the way it is, unfortunately. They both use channel 7(?).

You can still use a sixaxis, though.

might be another noob question, and I do apologize if it's been brought up already, however, I got my adapter earlier this week and set it up with my Harmony One and it has been working sublimely, almost perfectly. It's doing just one thing that has been driving me nuts.

I have an activity called "Watch TV" that turns on my TV, Cablebox, and Receiver and the correct inputs as well. The PS3 is not included in this activity yet I've found that when I hit that activity, the PS3 turns itself on. I've delved into the options in the remote software but I can't seem to get it to stay off during other activities.

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong or a fix for this issue?

Two questions: (a) what is the activity when you switch to "Watch TV"? (b) do you have the PS3 device power setting set to "I want to leave this device on all the time"?

everything is off except for the cable box, which I leave on permanently. When I hit the "Watch TV" activity button, it goes through all the correct commands, then it continues to transmit, as indicated by the signal icon in the top right of the remote, and it eventually turns the PS3 on as well, like 3-6 seconds after everything else for the "Watch TV" command comes on.

I have set the PS3 device power setting to "I want to leave this device on all the time" thinking they're not discrete power codes so I want to control it manually but it still turns on the dang PS3. Likewise, when I hit "Watch a Movie" or "Play PS3" activities, which actually dictate the PS3 be turned on, it has no effect...

I think I fixed it. I deleted my "Watch TV" activity and recreated it from scratch and it seems to work fine now, not turning on the PS3 in the process. Consequently, I also recreated the "Play PlayStation 3" and "Watch a Movie", both utilizing the PS3 and they work correctly now.

Is this in stores yet, or only online?

I've been hearing street date May 31st.

Got the adapter earlier this week and it works as advertised with my 880. I was worried about the responsiveness within the XMB but it actually works excellent. Having my 880 for 5 days now, I'm wondering how the hell did I go this long without it.

Having my 880 for 5 days now, I'm wondering how the hell did I go this long without it.It truly can be a hobby/marriage saver can't it. :D I can recall the number of times I heard, "another remote?!". All that is over and done with now.

It truly can be a hobby/marriage saver can't it. :D I can recall the number of times I heard, "another remote?!". All that is over and done with now.

Should I look into getting this too... the receiver is IR not BT, right?

Should I look into getting this too... the receiver is IR not BT, right?

The adapter is indeed IR to communicate with the Harmony remotes. It then converts the IR signal to BT and then transmits (via BT) the signal to the PS3. You have to register the device just like your BT remote, rendering said remote useless.

Should I look into getting this too... the receiver is IR not BT, right?Yes you should look into getting a Harmony (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/?WT.mc_id=usym_/harmony_global&strf=Universal_Symlink) of some style there are some very basic remotes that would function very well for you (just don't purchase them from Logitech/Harmony directly)....I think Rupp has an extra Harmony One that he bought at closeout of CC. He might be able to part with it for a reasonable offer. And finally everything in your home/apt is likely to be IR. The only device really out there that is BT is the PS3.

Yes you should look into getting a Harmony (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/?WT.mc_id=usym_/harmony_global&strf=Universal_Symlink) of some style there are some very basic remotes that would function very well for you (just don't purchase them from Logitech/Harmony directly)....I think Rupp has an extra Harmony One that he bought at closeout of CC. He might be able to part with it for a reasonable offer. And finally everything in your home/apt is likely to be IR. The only device really out there that is BT is the PS3.

They look nice, but pricey. I was talking to the wife and asked her just how much she knows about the remotes we have currently (TV and PS3 BT) and she knows them pretty well even without the light on (that's what she said)... I think if I ever have more than 3 remotes I may consider looking to get something like this, however, I dunno if I absolutely NEED it right now. I PM'd Rupp and asked him if he wanted to toss his old one my way. I'd still need to buy the IR adapter to have it sync with the PS3, right?

Ben, what kind are you using? (Can you tell, I want to be juuuuuuuust like you! :D)

If you have the PS3 set to turn off controllers after inactivity, will the remote stop working? I thinking this is a conflict during movies if it does.

Wow, I cant believe I missed this thread. I just ordered one! 2 years into my Harmony 1000 and I still use the thing flawlessly in my home theater. This thing is awesome!

They look nice, but pricey. I was talking to the wife and asked her just how much she knows about the remotes we have currently (TV and PS3 BT) and she knows them pretty well even without the light on (that's what she said)... I think if I ever have more than 3 remotes I may consider looking to get something like this, however, I dunno if I absolutely NEED it right now. I PM'd Rupp and asked him if he wanted to toss his old one my way. I'd still need to buy the IR adapter to have it sync with the PS3, right?

Ben, what kind are you using? (Can you tell, I want to be juuuuuuuust like you! :D)

Not sure if ebay links are allowed here so I PM'd ya. You too can be like dog for under 77 bucks!

There aren't enough USB ports for all this crap!

I already got 1 USB hub for the Rock Band/SingStar peripherals, 1 USB cable for charging my controllers, 1 USB mouse, and 1 USB keyboard.

In order for me to use this, I will either need another USB hub (probably not a good idea), or buy a BT or RF mouse/keyboard combo (the latter using a USB port).

dont feel too bad, i got the logitech bt keyboard that was desing for the ps3. guess what, not power on or zoom function in the web browser....

If you have the PS3 set to turn off controllers after inactivity, will the remote stop working? I thinking this is a conflict during movies if it does.It wouldn't have disabled the Sony BT remote either. It binds to the PS3 as controller 7, which has special rules. Unlike the pads, you don't have to bind it every time you use it.

They look nice, but pricey. I was talking to the wife and asked her just how much she knows about the remotes we have currently (TV and PS3 BT) and she knows them pretty well even without the light on (that's what she said)... I think if I ever have more than 3 remotes I may consider looking to get something like this, however, I dunno if I absolutely NEED it right now. I PM'd Rupp and asked him if he wanted to toss his old one my way. I'd still need to buy the IR adapter to have it sync with the PS3, right?

Ben, what kind are you using? (Can you tell, I want to be juuuuuuuust like you! :D)
Just an FYI - Rupp doesn't have an old remote. He bought 2 brand new Harmony One's at about 50% off. He's a funny guy. Always looking to make a buck. He intended to keep one and sell the other for a profit....well due to laziness and the economy he still has the other. lol.

I have the H880 - but I would love to test drive the One or the 1100. Mine has a small but annoying feature that broke. The tilt sensor stopped working. SO now every time I pick it up, I must hit the glow button (or any button) to see the LCD screen. Logitech says its not worth fixing...so they offered me 50% off the cost of a remote at the Logitech store. On the upper remotes that is a decent deal, otherwise ebay and other outlets are the way to go.

Just an FYI - Rupp doesn't have an old remote. He bought 2 brand new Harmony One's at about 50% off. He's a funny guy. Always looking to make a buck. He intended to keep one and sell the other for a profit....well due to laziness and the economy he still has the other. lol.

I have the H880 - but I would love to test drive the One or the 1100. Mine has a small but annoying feature that broke. The tilt sensor stopped working. SO now every time I pick it up, I must hit the glow button (or any button) to see the LCD screen. Logitech says its not worth fixing...so they offered me 50% off the cost of a remote at the Logitech store. On the upper remotes that is a decent deal, otherwise ebay and other outlets are the way to go.

I don't suppose you'd like to share that 50% off with me? :D I'm just teasing... I really don't think it's a necessity for me just yet. I just like things that light up in the dark.

My Harmony One is still powering on my PS3 when I hit the "Watch TV" activity. Everything else works fine. I have the setting on the PS3 to always leave it on, as I do with my 360 so I can manually turn them on or off.

Anybody else having this issue? It's a minor issue as I can just turn off the PS3 but it is annoying.

Just an FYI - Rupp doesn't have an old remote. He bought 2 brand new Harmony One's at about 50% off. He's a funny guy. Always looking to make a buck. He intended to keep one and sell the other for a profit....well due to laziness and the economy he still has the other. lol.

I have the H880 - but I would love to test drive the One or the 1100. Mine has a small but annoying feature that broke. The tilt sensor stopped working. SO now every time I pick it up, I must hit the glow button (or any button) to see the LCD screen. Logitech says its not worth fixing...so they offered me 50% off the cost of a remote at the Logitech store. On the upper remotes that is a decent deal, otherwise ebay and other outlets are the way to go.

I'm gonna give it to my brother for all the hard work he has done for me.

"Funny Guy"..tell me about it. I took 2 blu-rays back I got from the Walmart 10 free blu-ray deal when you purchase a PS3..remember that? Ahh..those were the days..LOL

I bought Killzone 2 with the $58.00 credit they gave me....:D

For those of you that have this adaptor, how are you handling when you set your PS3 to turn off after it completes downloading something? Are you not using your remote, do you have your PS3 set to be on all the time, or something else?

Thanks

For those of you that have this adaptor, how are you handling when you set your PS3 to turn off after it completes downloading something? Are you not using your remote, do you have your PS3 set to be on all the time, or something else?I have the PS3 set to be on all of the time and do the same thing with the Xbox (i.e., the remote is told not to turn them on and off around activity changes). My system has a PC in it, and whether I'm watching video or playing a game with one of the consoles, I often want to pause and do something with the PC, if only to check e-mail, etc (a movie that I was watching is paused on the PS3 as I compose this :)). It's easy enough to press an additional button to turn the consoles on if they're off, and I have both set up to automatically turn off after a while if accidentally left on.

i've had it since it was available on logitech.com... been working perfectly, with one caveat.

i use my ps3 mostly as a media streaming device (from a media server on my computer). when i press stop while watching streaming media, it takes 4-5 seconds before i can send another command. i see the little "broadcasting" icon on my harmony's LCD the entire time, meaning the remote is broadcasting STOP for a solid 4-5 seconds. but the ps3 stops playing instantly.

annoying when i'm trying to quickly end one stream and begin another. with the sixaxis it was instant, now it's a minimum of 4 seconds just to send a STOP command.

certainly not a dealbreaker... but there has to be an answer. any thoughts?

i've had it since it was available on logitech.com... been working perfectly, with one caveat.

i use my ps3 mostly as a media streaming device (from a media server on my computer). when i press stop while watching streaming media, it takes 4-5 seconds before i can send another command. i see the little "broadcasting" icon on my harmony's LCD the entire time, meaning the remote is broadcasting STOP for a solid 4-5 seconds. but the ps3 stops playing instantly.

annoying when i'm trying to quickly end one stream and begin another. with the sixaxis it was instant, now it's a minimum of 4 seconds just to send a STOP command.

certainly not a dealbreaker... but there has to be an answer. any thoughts?Like you, I currently use my PS3 almost entirely for media streaming and Blu-ray playback. I just tried pressing STOP while playing a streaming video and it only sent the command for an instant, like all of the other commands except, of course, the "Power Off" macro. (I don't think that I ever normally use the STOP button--I tend to use "Circle" to stop playback).

Since you say you've been using it for a long time, you might check to see whether the Harmony software offers an update for the device definition. I programmed my remote (a "for Xbox 360" model) to handle the PS3 as soon as I heard about the adapter and ordered it, but by the time mine arrived they'd updated the device (the definition that I originally downloaded didn't work at all).

Got mine at BB lastnight and works great. I need to tweak some of the delays and response time. I did delete any activity that involved the PS3 before setting up and redid activities.

I also got mine 2 days ago. I configured it and its working perfectly! Love it now! Negative: The PS3 remote stops working once you set up the Logitec unit.

Negative: The PS3 remote stops working once you set up the Logitec unit.I use a different device and from what I hear they all do this. But what I don't understand is how is it a negative. :confused: You wanted to use your universal remote to get away from needing to use the BT remote. Right?

I use a different device and from what I hear they all do this. But what I don't understand is how is it a negative. :confused: You wanted to use your universal remote to get away from needing to use the BT remote. Right?They don't all do it--some of the very inexpensive solutions are USB IR dongles which don't involve BT control at all (but which also consequently don't let you turn the console off and on). All the ones which are IR-to-BT "converters" like the Logitech adapter take the place of the BT remote. You can't use two different BT remotes with the same PS3 either :rolleyes:.

One person complained about this who seemed to have a possible application for the BT remote, controlling the PS3 from another room where he had a second television connected to it somehow. You can't have everything.

They don't all do it--some of the very inexpensive solutions are USB IR dongles which don't involve BT control at all (but which also consequently don't let you turn the console off and on).Well yes, that is obvious. They also eat up a USB slot and often occupy the controller 1 slot unless you turn on the PS3 with the controller first. If simplicity was to get the PS3 to 1 remote HT integration, the USB devices are really not helping much in that dept.
One person complained about this who seemed to have a possible application for the BT remote, controlling the PS3 from another room where he had a second television connected to it somehow. You can't have everything.I guess that would be an application. But your right, you can't have everything. But you can get and IR extender/repeater if need be. ;)

I have to pair the logitech adapter to the PS3 almost daily. Anyone else having that problem? Anyone have a solution?

I currently use the Nyco usb adapter through my Harmony 620, and generally it works OK. My biggest complaint is that I do a lot of web browsing on my PS3 and I like the zoom and pan features that I get from the original PS3 controller from the "rolly around thumb buttons" (don't know what they are called). The Nyco does not emulate these buttons........Does the Harmony?

I currently use the Nyco usb adapter through my Harmony 620, and generally it works OK. My biggest complaint is that I do a lot of web browsing on my PS3 and I like the zoom and pan features that I get from the original PS3 controller from the "rolly around thumb buttons" (don't know what they are called). The Nyco does not emulate these buttons........Does the Harmony?

I don't think it does, but I'm sure someone with more knowledge will chime in.

Your name is familiar, you don't work for IGN TV or Movies, do you?

I currently use the Nyco usb adapter through my Harmony 620, and generally it works OK. My biggest complaint is that I do a lot of web browsing on my PS3 and I like the zoom and pan features that I get from the original PS3 controller from the "rolly around thumb buttons" (don't know what they are called). The Nyco does not emulate these buttons........Does the Harmony?Could you mean DirectionLeft, DirectionRight, DirectionUp and DirectionDown (with Enter in the middle), on the circular pad? If so all of those functions can be mapped to buttons on the Harmony, like the little circular direction pad in the middle of your Harmony 620. BTW, the Nyko Blu-Wave Remote seems to have those functions on it.

On the original Sony controller there are two thumbsticks that rotate and can be pused in. If you are browsing the web with the PS3 and push in the right thumbstick, the webpage zooms in; if you push L2, it zooms out. If you are viewing a picture in the photo section of the PS3 XMB (?) , if you push the right thumbstik up the picture zooms in, and the left thumbstick scrolls around the picture.

Those are the buttons that I am wondering if the Harmony can now control.

On the original Sony controller there are two thumbsticks that rotate and can be pused in. If you are browsing the web with the PS3 and push in the right thumbstick, the webpage zooms in; if you push L2, it zooms out. If you are viewing a picture in the photo section of the PS3 XMB (?) , if you push the right thumbstik up the picture zooms in, and the left thumbstick scrolls around the picture.

Those are the buttons that I am wondering if the Harmony can now control.

That's L3 & R3 & it does have their functionality.

How exactly would one use the remote with the web browser, anyway? There's no left stick with which to move the cursor, and the browser does not respond to the D-pad buttons, so you can't use them to move from link to link.

I love this adapter. It's nice to be able to use my Harmony for this now too. It will certainly help my wife if she wants to watch a movie and I'm not here.

I have noticed that it takes longer for my controller to connect...but it eventually does. Guess I'm not really complaining!

If you know someone that works at best buy, you can get the adapter for $33 via the employee discount. :)

best thing since sliced bread. wish they had a Wii one but whatever the Wii is the wifes so i rarely play it anyways...



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/DSC_0631.jpg

Bought one yesterday, took about 5 min to setup averything and change the remote... I love this thing!!!

Watch PS3? You play your Xbox and Wii but watch your PS3? :D

Watch PS3? You play your Xbox and Wii but watch your PS3? :DI don't know about paranormalg35, but so few PS3 exclusives have had appeal for me so far that I actually do spend a few orders of magnitude more time watching video on it than playing games. It's a great Blu-ray and streaming video player, much better than the Xbox at this point and well worth the purchase price for those things alone. Hopefully more exclusives will come along that I like--the only ones on the horizon are Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and maybe Agent.

I may change my remote's activity name to "Watch PS3" :D.

Can someone figure out what I'm doing wrong?

I bought this adapter for my Dad on Father's Day, but have been having one hell of a time getting it to work properly...or, in his case, at all.

I updated the firmware on his remote (though, I noticed when I got home that his software version was 7.5.0...and 7.6.0 came out last week), deleted the old PS3 activity and device. Then I readded the PS3 device and activity (using the default settings). Attempted to turn on the PS3 by switching to the activity...and nothing.

I paired the PS3 and the adapter before attempting this, but the PS3 is not recognizing any commands I send to the adapter (like using the arrow keys). I can't remember if I tried the PS button on the remote. My parents have a Harmony 676 remote.

I brought the adapter to my house and tested it on my setup (I have a Harmony 659), and I'm experiencing a different problem. I updated my software and firmware for the remote. Paired the adapter to the PS3, but when I click on the PS3 activity, the PS3 does not turn on. However, if I press the PS button on the remote, it powers on. The power off button also works. I did change the settings a little on my PS3, which was to leave the PS3 on when I go switch activities.

Any ideas what could be the problem in either case?

Paired the adapter to the PS3, but when I click on the PS3 activity, the PS3 does not turn on. However, if I press the PS button on the remote, it powers on. The power off button also works. I did change the settings a little on my PS3, which was to leave the PS3 on when I go switch activities.

Any ideas what could be the problem in either case?If you tell it to leave the PS3 on all the time (which I also do), it will not turn it on or off around activity switches, assuming that you'll take care of that.

I don't know what's going on with your father's set up. I recall having a similar problem when I first set this up. I posted about that problem and how I fixed it here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16470148&highlight=#post16470148)--I hope that your father's problem is the same (the first definition I was given of the new PS3 device wasn't the latest and I had to update it).

If you tell it to leave the PS3 on all the time (which I also do), it will not turn it on or off around activity switches, assuming that you'll take care of that.

I don't know what's going on with your father's set up. I recall having a similar problem when I first set this up. I posted about that problem and how I fixed it here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16470148&highlight=#post16470148)--I hope that your father's problem is the same (the first definition I was given of the new PS3 device wasn't the latest and I had to update it).
Thanks, that would explain why it doesn't automatically turn on for my setup.

As for my dad's problem, I had already removed the device and activity from the remote, updated, then readded the PS3 device and activity.

I'll try it again when I get back to their place, but, as far as I know, everything should be set correctly. At the time, I did not update the software for the remote, just the firmware. But, that shouldn't make a difference, right? His version of the software was still 7.5.0.

As for my dad's problem, I had already removed the device and activity from the remote, updated, then readded the PS3 device and activity.Did you remove the PS3 device a second time? I'd added the new PS3 device already (which I don't describe in that post--sorry) and it didn't work the first time. (The first definition had added a bunch of button mappings to the activity; there were none in my original "Play PS3" activity. The second definition added even more button mappings). While I was trying to diagnose the problem, I took a look at the PS3 device settings and was told that there was a new version available (newer than the one I'd added an hour previous :rolleyes:). I can't imagine that an updated device definition had been added in the intervening hour, so for some reason it loaded a non-functioning version of the device definition the first time around.
I'll try it again when I get back to their place, but, as far as I know, everything should be set correctly. At the time, I did not update the software for the remote, just the firmware. But, that shouldn't make a difference, right? His version of the software was still 7.5.0.I just noticed that there was a new 7.6.0 software release--I set up the new PS3 activity using 7.5.0.

Did you remove the PS3 device a second time? I'd added the new PS3 device already (which I don't describe in that post--sorry) and it didn't work the first time. (The first definition had added a bunch of button mappings to the activity; there were none in my original "Play PS3" activity. The second definition added even more button mappings). While I was trying to diagnose the problem, I took a look at the PS3 device settings and was told that there was a new version available (newer than the one I'd added an hour previous :rolleyes:). I can't imagine that an updated device definition had been added in the intervening hour, so for some reason it loaded a non-functioning version of the device definition the first time around.
I just noticed that there was a new 7.6.0 software release--I set up the new PS3 activity using 7.5.0.
I believe I did remove the device and activity. I did so when I first setup the remote, and then again when I tried to troubleshoot it yesterday. I'll try again though...I think I noticed that I had more buttons mapped on my Harmony remote than on my parents'.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Curious to know if anyone has this working with non Harmony remotes like the pronto?

I would think all that is needed is the HEX codes?

Would like to use it with my RTI remote if someone can confirm that the HEX code works with other remotes.

Curious to know if anyone has this working with non Harmony remotes like the pronto?

I would think all that is needed is the HEX codes?

Would like to use it with my RTI remote if someone can confirm that the HEX code works with other remotes.

Use this http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/rcfiles.cgi?area=pronto&db=devices&br=logitech&dv=ps3adapter&md=harmonyadapterforplaystation3&pg=1&file=ccf_templates/game/log-ps3-harmony.zip

Use this http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/rcfiles.cgi?area=pronto&db=devices&br=logitech&dv=ps3adapter&md=harmonyadapterforplaystation3&pg=1&file=ccf_templates/game/log-ps3-harmony.zip

Thanks.

Will pick up the Adapter this weekend and try it out.

Got this adapter last night as a birthday gift...works flawlessly with my 880.

Got this adapter last night as a birthday gift...works flawlessly with my 880.

+1

Had it about 2 months now and its been working flawlessly! Its so nice to push one button and everything pops on. I even got all the buttons for it programmed pretty urgonomically for use. Its just about 99% as useful as the PS3 remote now!

I believe I did remove the device and activity. I did so when I first setup the remote, and then again when I tried to troubleshoot it yesterday. I'll try again though...I think I noticed that I had more buttons mapped on my Harmony remote than on my parents'.

Thanks for the suggestions.
Not sure what I did, but for some reason the remote was working once I resynced it on my parent's PS3.

It powers on and powers off the machine now.

I'll have to pick myself up one of these adapters some day, since I got my remote configured for one of them.

Works great with my 550 and my new 1000. Once I got it the PS3 became my default DVD/BD player.

I love this thing, the only problem I have is that very often the menu response is too quick (Harmony 890-RF). If i hit the directional pad once, it flys through about 7-8 clicks. not sure what causes that, as it only happens about 50% of the time. I suppose I should reduce the time period over which the signal is sent...right?

Bought this recently and set it up yesterday... everything works great, and I agree with everyone else that this is awesome! I do have one question, though. On the back of the adapter there is a port/plug that is apparently for an IR emitter. I'm using the adapter with an 890, so I have the RF receiver with the IR emitters. But I don't understand how plugging an IR emitter into this adapter would be of any use. After all, the whole purpose of the adapter is to *accept* IR and convert to BT.

Does anyone have any idea about this? The documentation that came with the adapter (basically just one of those one page fold-out things) mentions the port, but doesn't say anything about how to use it/what it's for.

Thanks.

Bought this recently and set it up yesterday... everything works great, and I agree with everyone else that this is awesome! I do have one question, though. On the back of the adapter there is a port/plug that is apparently for an IR emitter. I'm using the adapter with an 890, so I have the RF receiver with the IR emitters. But I don't understand how plugging an IR emitter into this adapter would be of any use. After all, the whole purpose of the adapter is to *accept* IR and convert to BT.

Does anyone have any idea about this? The documentation that came with the adapter (basically just one of those one page fold-out things) mentions the port, but doesn't say anything about how to use it/what it's for.

Thanks.

Basically, it offers you the option of plugging the BT unit directly into your IR emitter, rather than using one of the IR emitters.....but, you'll need to purchase a 3.5 to 2.5 mm cable to connect it to the IR/RF adapter

I suppose I should reduce the time period over which the signal is sent...right?
Yes. I changed the timing to half a second.

Since using this adapter, it takes me dualshock an eternity to connect the PS3...occasionally, it doesn't connect at all. A pain in the rear at times.

Since using this adapter, it takes me dualshock an eternity to connect the PS3...occasionally, it doesn't connect at all. A pain in the rear at times.

Happens to me as well. Ever tried finding a fix? I didn't really use my PS3 before buying the adapter, so I wasn't sure if it was working normally or not.

Yes. I changed the timing to half a second.

Cool. Thanks for the help (just in case i get confused when I get into the Harmony software...which setting did you change to 0.5 sec?)

This unit is too expensive! new ps3 will have built in!

Cool. Thanks for the help (just in case i get confused when I get into the Harmony software...which setting did you change to 0.5 sec?)
I think I changed to interval between button presses (since I don't have the software in front of me, it's a guess).

I believe 1000 = 1 second, so I changed it to 500.

Since using this adapter, it takes me dualshock an eternity to connect the PS3...occasionally, it doesn't connect at all. A pain in the rear at times.
Several possible fixes for this, depending on what exactly is causing the problem...

1) Update your software and remote firmware.
2) Move your adapter a bit farther away from the PS3.
3) Change your inter-device delay to 1200 ms.

In my case, simply updating the software and firmware corrected the problem. For other, the issue has been caused by IR conflict, and changing the delay fixed it. I'm at a loss to explain why it would keep a BT controller from pairing, but it is a known issue if you check the Logitech forums.

This unit is too expensive! new ps3 will have built in!Okay--you're right. Replacing my 2 y/o PS3 with that mythical new PS3 with announced infrared control would have been much cheaper than buying this product. Shame on me :rolleyes:.

I love this thing, the only problem I have is that very often the menu response is too quick (Harmony 890-RF). If i hit the directional pad once, it flys through about 7-8 clicks. not sure what causes that, as it only happens about 50% of the time. I suppose I should reduce the time period over which the signal is sent...right?

try setting command repeat count to 0


use the troubleshoot bubble next to the device
select: responds to some commands either too many times or only occasionally
next
set at 0 or 1
save

Okay--you're right. Replacing my 2 y/o PS3 with that mythical new PS3 with announced infrared control would have been much cheaper than buying this product. Shame on me :rolleyes:.

Nope! You are :cool:Bro! It is for us who think that way:)

try setting command repeat count to 0


use the troubleshoot bubble next to the device
select: responds to some commands either too many times or only occasionally
next
set at 0 or 1
save


Thanks! I forgot about that and was digging into the device settings menu. Tried it and it seems to work well (still happens a bit, but i blame that on the directional pad on the 890 remote...too easy to hold it down for too long while trying to click on it).

Where's the best place to buy this at a good price? Checked eBay all seem pretty high.

This unit is too expensive! new ps3 will have built in!

I haven't been able to confirm this and the pics I have seen don't show any IR sensors on the front.

Where's the best place to buy this at a good price? Checked eBay all seem pretty high.I'm not going to name names, but you can see a large list of sources and prices at Google Shopping, here (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4HPIB_enUS308US308&q=logitech+harmony+adapter&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=18080916205225775435&ei=87WRSunrPInWtgPAk6kM&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=5#scoring=tp). Enter your zip and sort by Total Price (price+tax+shipping) for the lowest. At this writing, one of them seems really sweet :).

I'm not going to name names, but you can see a large list of sources and prices at Google Shopping, here (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4HPIB_enUS308US308&q=logitech+harmony+adapter&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=18080916205225775435&ei=87WRSunrPInWtgPAk6kM&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=5#scoring=tp). Enter your zip and sort by Total Price (price+tax+shipping) for the lowest. At this writing, one of them seems really sweet :).

Thanks a lot got it, I tried that didn't get that price the first time ordering now!!!

I haven't been able to confirm this and the pics I have seen don't show any IR sensors on the front.No, it isn't true--the PS3 Slim doesn't have IR control. They've added control via HDMI CEC from new model Sony televisions (which are controlled via normal IR remote), but if you don't have one of those, you're stuck with BT.

No, it isn't true--the PS3 Slim doesn't have IR control. They've added control via HDMI CEC from new model Sony televisions (which are controlled via normal IR remote), but if you don't have one of those, you're stuck with BT.

Will there be a firmware update to make this work with the older PS3 because I have an XBR9 and will hold off on buying the remote thing if this is true?

Will there be a firmware update to make this work with the older PS3 because I have an XBR9 and will hold off on buying the remote thing if this is true?I don't think so. The Playstation Blog entry about update 3.0 (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/08/18/playstation-3-firmware-v3-00-update[/url) doesn't mention it. I suspect that the original hardware wasn't capable of HDMI CEC one way or another and they've added the capability to the new unit to support the new Bravia Sync feature of their televisions.

I kind of doubt that they support all of the PS3 remote commands through Bravia Sync, anyway, though the subset is probably adequate to multimedia control.

Thanks a lot got it, I tried that didn't get that price the first time ordering now!!!If it's the same place I ordered it from, it might be a while before you get it. I placed my order on 8/2, and it's still showing on backorder.

Scott

If it's the same place I ordered it from, it might be a while before you get it. I placed my order on 8/2, and it's still showing on backorder.

ScottUpdate: I received an out-of-stock email two days ago. Then, tonight, I got a notice that this shipped today.

I'm very anxious to try this out.

Scott

Update: I received an out-of-stock email two days ago. Then, tonight, I got a notice that this shipped today.

I'm very anxious to try this out.

Scott

I ended up going to Best Buy today and the manager matched the price with the online printout from the website that has it cheap, guess he was in a good mood. I'm about to try it out now!

Update: I received an out-of-stock email two days ago. Then, tonight, I got a notice that this shipped today.

I'm very anxious to try this out.

Scott

I dont know why they are sitting on mine! I might check with another website with free shipping to price match I guess!

I ended up going to Best Buy today and the manager matched the price with the online printout from the website that has it cheap, guess he was in a good mood. I'm about to try it out now!Dang! I wish I would have thought of that. I know that Best Buy has been pretty aggressive lately, with offering to match internet prices. It's at the manager's discretion, but in the past it was always a flat out "no".

Scott

Dang! I wish I would have thought of that. I know that Best Buy has been pretty aggressive lately, with offering to match internet prices. It's at the manager's discretion, but in the past it was always a flat out "no".

Scott

Yeah I was really surprised how easy it was no hassle at all couldn't believe it. By the way the adapter works great love it.

Just to add to the chorus here. Bought the adaptor yesterday and hooked it up with my new PS3 slim. Ran through the setup with the remote to add the device, and it works flawless at all the default settings.

The IR receiver is very sleek and not noticeable at all in my entertainment center.

Now we'll see if I can get a few bucks for my old Schmartz PS3IRX1 USB dongle on eBay!

I'm using the adapter with my slim and it doesn't work properly. It causes my dual shock to lose the BT connection and I have to keep it plugged into the slim for it to be recognized. This doesn't happen with my 80GB unit and the same harmony adapter, and I've tried swapping the slim once already to experience the same issue. I wonder if there's an incompatibility issue with the new slim and the logitech adapter?

I wonder if there's an incompatibility issue with the new slim and the logitech adapter?WeaselBoy's post just above yours says that he didn't have any probelm with it. Of course, he doesn't say anything about trying it in tandem with a pad.

I'm using the adapter with my slim and it doesn't work properly. It causes my dual shock to lose the BT connection and I have to keep it plugged into the slim for it to be recognized. This doesn't happen with my 80GB unit and the same harmony adapter, and I've tried swapping the slim once already to experience the same issue. I wonder if there's an incompatibility issue with the new slim and the logitech adapter?

I had the same problem with my 1st slim, also wouldnt power down half the time , no problems with 2nd one.

I'm using the adapter with my slim and it doesn't work properly. It causes my dual shock to lose the BT connection and I have to keep it plugged into the slim for it to be recognized. This doesn't happen with my 80GB unit and the same harmony adapter, and I've tried swapping the slim once already to experience the same issue. I wonder if there's an incompatibility issue with the new slim and the logitech adapter?

I do not have this problem at all with mine on a new slim.

You might try deleting all paired BT devices then repair them one by one.

No, it isn't true--the PS3 Slim doesn't have IR control. They've added control via HDMI CEC from new model Sony televisions (which are controlled via normal IR remote), but if you don't have one of those, you're stuck with BT.

The Bravia Sync/HDMI-CEC doesn't work only with a Sony TV. It works on others HDMI-CEC capable TV/projector, at least for my Toshiba LCD TV with HDMI-CEC enabled. I can navigate the CrossMedia bar and play media files/DVD/Blu-ray through my Toshiba's IR TV remote.

Someone tried it with his Sharp LCD TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJdHryFKAqI

So, I guess at least for the folks with the new Slim you can program your Logitech to control the PS3 through your HDMI-CEC capable TV IR?

cancelled buy.com order,placed jr order, price match, free ship, no tax, to be shipped on sept 8th.

when will it be available in Europe?

I contacted Logitech about the issue with the slim, they said they have multiple reports of this issue already, so they escalated the issue to Level 2, guess it means there's some sort of incompatibility with some of the chipsets in the slim and the harmony adapter.

Has worked flawlessly with my PS3 slim, haven't lost any controller connections and turns unit on/off without fail.

I've noticed that when I turn my PS3 Slim on with my dual shock, the controller will remain paired, however, if I turn the PS3 Slim on with my Harmony One, the dual shock has difficulty staying connected to the PS3, if I can get it connected at all. Glad to hear they're working on a solution or at least they're aware of the problem.

I contacted Logitech about the issue with the slim, they said they have multiple reports of this issue already, so they escalated the issue to Level 2, guess it means there's some sort of incompatibility with some of the chipsets in the slim and the harmony adapter.

i have a fat and my controllers unpair themselves all the time since i started using the adapter.

I contacted Logitech about the issue with the slim, they said they have multiple reports of this issue already, so they escalated the issue to Level 2, guess it means there's some sort of incompatibility with some of the chipsets in the slim and the harmony adapter.

Sign me up.... :confused: I got the same problem.

Sign me up.... :confused: I got the same problem.Wow this is deja-vu for the IR2BT original. Let me do some digging. IIRC though, there was something wrong with the code that was corrupted when sony did a minor BT update back a year ago. It was very similar syptoms as you all are seeing. It was if you used the remote to turn on there were errors, if you used the controller, then there were none. So the issue was that they needed to fix the firmware in the device to and tweak something. This led to a massive recall as the devices didn't have a port to allow end user firmware updates. Sound like Harmony, when it decided to join this game, went the route of the original IR2BT. Not to sound negative, but this isn't a very good thing for you guys as you have no way to fix the issue. I can tell you this it's not Sony didn't do it intentionally. My converter box at home still works, but I'm with the PS3IR-PRO. If there was an issue we could get firmware updates.

FW. 2.4 was the culprit back then:
IR2BT 2008 RECALL (http://www.ir2bt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=205)
IR to BT Converter Reviews (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016741) and information on the recall in the first post too.

Which is hysterical because I just read the IR2BT thread and those that never sent them in for recall and remain "broken" now after 3.00 are working 100%! LOL Damn Sony and this need to tweak something in the BT firmwares...