View Full Version : 'MonsterQuest' on History HD - Where's the Monsters?


Oz Man
03-25-09, 11:53 AM
I like to watch Monster quest, but just once, thats all, just once show us veiwers something. I am like the X-Files, I Want To Believe. :) Come on Monster Quest, show us some real Proof. The best one so far was last weeks episode about a possible 20' to 60' shark off of the Mexico coast. That has been the best probabilty of one yet but all we get is a Basking Shark? :mad: They can not even get a shot of a large Great White? Surely they can do better.

mproper
03-25-09, 11:56 AM
Isn't that like asking for Ghost Hunters to prove the existence of ghosts or a UFO investigation show to prove the existence of UFO's or some other show proving the existence of life on other planets?

Yeah, it would be great, but probably not going to happen anytime soon.

curtlots
03-25-09, 01:38 PM
I know your pain Oz Man.

I don't watch these shows that often and when I do I wonder why. I know if anything was ever found it would make front page news long before they had a chance to produce a show.

They need to group all these shows together and put them on a new network. National Enquirer Network sounds about right.

scowl
03-25-09, 04:59 PM
I like the Hunter S. Thompson wanna-be guy on UFO Hunters on the History Channel. He cracks me up almost every time he aims his sunglasses at the camera and scolds anyone who doesn't jump to the same crazy conclusions he does. He quickly declares that something has to be either extraterrestrial, interdimensional or have something to do with time travel while the "dumber" investigators waste their time evaluating the evidence.. By coincidence, he's the publisher of a UFO magazine.

I was surprised that they usually have a logical person on the show who either finds mundane explanations or withholds his opinion until more evidence comes in.

Jim Shaffer
03-25-09, 09:40 PM
I don't usually get too upset at Bill Byrnes's speculations. But those ancient airplane models last week that couldn't be birds because birds don't have vertical tails? They're flying fish.

VisionOn
03-25-09, 11:42 PM
I like to watch Monster quest, but just once, thats all, just once show us veiwers something. I am like the X-Files, I Want To Believe. :) Come on Monster Quest, show us some real Proof.

You do realize that if any one of these pointlessly lame shows found even the tiniest bit of proof it would be all over the news long before the episode aired?

A couple of guys stuck a hair suit and gorilla mask in a freezer, took one photo and that made the headlines of CNN.

Oz Man
03-26-09, 08:11 AM
You do realize that if any one of these pointlessly lame shows found even the tiniest bit of proof it would be all over the news long before the episode aired?

A couple of guys stuck a hair suit and gorilla mask in a freezer, took one photo and that made the headlines of CNN.

Yes, I do realize that. What gets me is so many people are saying that they are seeing things but know one ever gets a real good picture. With the technologies out there, a good picture should be easy to get. Last night was a new Big Foot episode. Hunters seeing the beast. If I was hunting and saw one, I would unload my gun at it. 1 hunter took a shot at the beast and said he hit it and the Monster crew went looking for it months after. Found the bullet in a tree and cut the branch out and to it to a lab to try to retrieve DNA and of course, there was not enough DNA to test. Give the DNA to the CSI people, they always find everything.

mproper
03-26-09, 08:33 AM
Yes, I do realize that. What gets me is so many people are saying that they are seeing things but know one ever gets a real good picture. With the technologies out there, a good picture should be easy to get. Last night was a new Big Foot episode. Hunters seeing the beast. If I was hunting and saw one, I would unload my gun at it. 1 hunter took a shot at the beast and said he hit it and the Monster crew went looking for it months after. Found the bullet in a tree and cut the branch out and to it to a lab to try to retrieve DNA and of course, there was not enough DNA to test. Give the DNA to the CSI people, they always find everything.

Probably because nobody ever sees these things.

What I mean is, have you ever watched Ghost Hunters on Sci-Fi? I've seen an episode or two, but the whole show goes like this:

Ghost Hunter: "Did you see that?"
**camera swings down hall**
GH: There was a guy standing there!
Me: "sure there was."

GH: "Did you hear that sound?"
Me: "No."

GH: "Something cold just brushed up against me!"
Me: "Sure it did"

GH: "The temperature just dropped 10 degrees!"
Me: "Sure it did"

What I mean is these shows are just made for people who want to believe, and there's no proof of anything. It's just people claiming to have seen things to get attention (IMO)

jason10mm
03-26-09, 12:35 PM
Heh heh, I think the ep about "Rods" (if that was MonsterHunter and not some other show) was about the closest they'll come to "uncovering" a heretofore unknown species. Otherwise they would be showing those pre-historic fish everyone thought was extinct or something.

And of course a real expedition to find a giant crocodile or ginormous snake would be prohibitively expensive.

I'm waiting for the sci-fi (syfy.....grrr) channel to make a fake ghost hunters show that plays TOTALLY straight, but does add in CGI ghosts, just tiny little bits here and there. See how long they could run it before folks figure it out :P

CycloneGT
03-26-09, 12:50 PM
The reason that the don't find the monsters is that monsters do not exist. Well, except that guy on craigslist.

scowl
03-26-09, 03:02 PM
I don't usually get too upset at Bill Byrnes's speculations. But those ancient airplane models last week that couldn't be birds because birds don't have vertical tails? They're flying fish.

Byrnes doesn't bother me. He completely cracks me up with his "Buy my magazine!" baseball cap and mirrored sunglasses. If the show didn't have a wild-eyed believer (granted I'm speculating on Byrnes's eyes since we've never seen them), the show would be too dull for most people.

The flying Styrofoam models last week would have been laughed off of MythBusters. I kicked a square piece of Styrofoam my Blu-ray player came with across my living room and by God it "flew" just as well as those "ancient airplane" models they made!

I wish hoaxers would brush up on their Photoshop skills so the cut-and-paste jobs in faked UFO shots wouldn't be so easy to prove. They also need to use one of the many free EXIF data editors available so their stories will match the two shots they took of the flying saucer that was in the sky for several minutes.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-26-09, 04:00 PM
It's all government propaganda since they own this channel.

juancmjr
03-26-09, 08:33 PM
Try Animal Planet's "Lost Tapes." They do show the monsters. :rolleyes:

djb61230
03-26-09, 08:55 PM
We watch all three shows mentioned in this thread. I can't disagree with anything said so far, but we just find the shows entertaining. Which is the point right?

ez1dog
03-26-09, 09:20 PM
They suck you in with a show that is somewhat "believable" like The Man Eating Snapping Turtle of Chicago.You have young kids and the neighbor's dogs are M.I.A.But the last 10 minutes of the show we find that they all went to 6Flags.That show has me more frustrated than my first girl friend.Maybe I'm just retarded.

Oz Man
03-27-09, 08:40 AM
They suck you in with a show that is somewhat "believable" like The Man Eating Snapping Turtle of Chicago.You have young kids and the neighbor's dogs are M.I.A.But the last 10 minutes of the show we find that they all went to 6Flags.That show has me more frustrated than my first girl friend.Maybe I'm just retarded.

Wow, a Man Eating Snapping Turtle in Chicago? I would have never of guessed. Did they catch it? :D There are things out there, we just have not found them. Watched Blue Planet for the 10th time last night and it still amazes me. One point they did mention is that only 1% of the Oceans floor has been studied. There are probably things down there that are truley monsters that we just do not know about. Only 50% of all the remote jungles and forrests have been covered. There are oppertunities for Monster Quest to actually go and look for Monsters. Instead of listening to people, they need to look for monsters in these undiscovered places. Look at some of the photos taken from the places they have discovered at the bottom of the ocean. The speicies they have discovered even small do look like Phrehistoric Monsters. Go look for more Monster Quest.

Teisco
03-27-09, 10:46 AM
I agree that these shows are more hype than monster but I caught a Ghost Hunters episode that did show what looked like a moving ghost or whatever. They were in a lighthouse and had the video camera pointed up,,they started getting nervous and saying "did you see that?" but this time they meant it. Later they showed the video to the lighthouse's owner and it clearly showed and black object running up the steps ahead of them but very, very fast,,,when at the top it turned and you could see white where the face was and then it vanished. It was there and then it was gone.

CycloneGT
03-27-09, 10:56 AM
Ever since The Learning Channel turned into The Ladies Channel, none of the Discovery networks have been the same. Plus their credibility has been sacrificed for the spectacular. End results, one of the few profitable media companies in 2008. Go figure.

scowl
03-27-09, 12:07 PM
Heh heh, I think the ep about "Rods" (if that was MonsterHunter and not some other show) was about the closest they'll come to "uncovering" a heretofore unknown species. Otherwise they would be showing those pre-historic fish everyone thought was extinct or something.

I might be getting this mixed up with a "Rods" episode on UFO Hunter which was really good (all these shows are pretty much the same format). They showed a photographic phenomena that appeared to be strange rod-like creatures flying around. A little excellent investigation showed that many of these things were just bugs or birds whose wings had coincidentally matched the video camera's frame rate causing spatial aliasing. They even explained how interlacing worked.

But they also had at least one example where this explanation wasn't possible. One was shot on professional video equipment by a news crew and appeared to be a large thing flying near an airport and looked convincingly like a large wingless aircraft (similar to a missile) flying in a straight line at enough altitude to show some atmospheric fog.

I don't recall Bill Byrnes there yelling that it was obviously from another galaxy or interdimensional plane so maybe it wasn't UFO Hunters. It was great how they explained much of the phenomena but left one or two tougher examples up to the viewer to judge.

juancmjr
03-27-09, 06:42 PM
I might be getting this mixed up with a "Rods" episode on UFO Hunter which was really good (all these shows are pretty much the same format). They showed a photographic phenomena that appeared to be strange rod-like creatures flying around. A little excellent investigation showed that many of these things were just bugs or birds whose wings had coincidentally matched the video camera's frame rate causing spatial aliasing. They even explained how interlacing worked.


That was a Monster Quest episode and that was an interesting explanation of interlacing and how it could affect what was captured by the camera.

scowl
03-27-09, 07:04 PM
Man, I sure do get all the shows mixed up. I guess I thought that was a UFO Hunter episode because it had convincing footage of a UFO, something which UFO Hunters rarely has!