Would you be willing to pay the extra for wireless on the forthcoming SVS 16 inch sealed subwoofer?

I would guess that we are already talking well over $1,000.

It seems like people spending this kind of money like wireless if the HSU ULS-15 is representative.

I'd prefer that it be offered as an option rather than to be forced to pay for it.

Agreed with mojo. I'd even rather see wireless as a stand alone unit for use with any sub.


Tim

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Yes a stand alone unit to use with all subs seems like something most people would be willing to pay for.

I haven't been following this, but I know 2 ULS 15 owners that are less than pleased with the wireless function. Seems to have interference and noise problems. As I said, I have no idea if this is a problem or not. Just happens that the 2 I know have had problems. If this is generally going to the be case, I'd have to pass on this as a feature. If it works as advertised it's a very neat feature though.

No one likes noise in there system no matter how convenient it might be. Unless SVS perfects this I'd say stay away from this. Their reputation is almost flawless.

Wireless connectivity is a feature we want on the next generation of our digital amps. The unit we are evaluating is - for lack of better words - pretty intelligent and has not suffered from interference/noise problems. Never say never - so if this does occur, there will always obviously still be the option of using a conventional interconnect.

Thats great that there will be a option to just run a interconnect and bypass the wireless option if needed .

This is great news. I hope it can be developed. It would sure help people that have not planned ahead for 2 subs instead of one. Guess who?:mad:

I haven't been following this, but I know 2 ULS 15 owners that are less than pleased with the wireless function. Seems to have interference and noise problems. As I said, I have no idea if this is a problem or not. Just happens that the 2 I know have had problems. If this is generally going to the be case, I'd have to pass on this as a feature. If it works as advertised it's a very neat feature though.

We've had very very few complaints about the wireless feature. Almost all of the time, one can get a good signal by doing one of the following: move the wireless transmitter around a bit, change the four position channel selector switch, or change the channel on the wireless dsl to something closer to other wireless networks in the area. Some people with interference haven't bothered to try all these steps. It is what it is I guess. One can always use 'Wired' mode as a backup in case they really can't get wireless to work well for them.

We've had very very few complaints about the wireless feature. Almost all of the time, one can get a good signal by doing one of the following: move the wireless transmitter around a bit, change the four position channel selector switch, or change the channel on the wireless dsl to something closer to other wireless networks in the area. Some people with interference haven't bothered to try all these steps. It is what it is I guess. One can always use 'Wired' mode as a backup in case they really can't get wireless to work well for them.Pete, I don't know the details and I'm certainly not denigrating your excellent sub. I only know of the 2 direct comments made to me. It's a feature I'd love to have, if viable in my situation.

Ron, I hear you, I was just pointing out that some of these people who have had interference didn't want to bother trying out all the troubleshooting steps that we recommended to them for wireless connection. After all, the 'Wired' connection mode is a very easy and predictable fallback option on these subs. That said, as long as one can get wireless to work in a reasonably good manner, then it becomes potentially very beneficial in hooking up multiple wireless subs (and future wireless MBM's too)...

Sincerely,

I love my dual drive! :)

I installed a Dual-Drive system for a friend recently and the subs were both connected wirelessly. We had a few issues initially, but working through them was far easier than re-wiring his entire room. :eek::eek::eek:

For myself, I have a few placement options that are "unrealistic" without a wireless connection. I hope many more manufacturer's follow this path.

Craig

How do these wireless transmitters work? A-D-A? Analog the entire way? Not supposing that there is a degradation in sound quality, but am just wondering.

I vote against the wireless. When you want purity in a signal there are still too many things that can compromise it. I don't know why you would want to maybe corrupt a potentially great product like this. I am just thinking that when a nice quiet part of the movie is on and everyone very into the movie when a trucker with a thousand watt CB drives by talking about his latest truck stop conquest an the whole room hears about it through your multi thousand dollar subwoofer. No way for me.

I vote against the wireless. When you want purity in a signal there are still too many things that can compromise it. I don't know why you would want to maybe corrupt a potentially great product like this. I am just thinking that when a nice quiet part of the movie is on and everyone very into the movie when a trucker with a thousand watt CB drives by talking about his latest truck stop conquest an the whole room hears about it through your multi thousand dollar subwoofer. No way for me.

You should pack up the family and move away from those truckstops ;)

You should pack up the family and move away from those truckstops ;)

Live nowhere close to them, but can hear them talk from time to time on my cordless phone a couple times a year.

CB transmit in 40 discreet channels between 26.965MHz to 27.405MHz

remember reading somewhere the Hsu transmitter/receiver works in the range of 2.4GHz/2400MHz

Live nowhere close to them, but can hear them talk from time to time on my cordless phone a couple times a year.

FWIW, I was just having fun. ;)

I know you were. I am using a 2.4 gig phone and still get the bleed over. It doesn't seem possible, but it happens. Same way that it doesn't seem possible that I would get talking on a guitar amp either, but it happens.

Hi Spyboy,

Wher did you get the info about the new SVS 16" sub? found it

http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/ht-home-theater/svs-sb13-plus-sb16-ultra-sealed-subwoofers/

Any more info

trying to learn thast all

Well, I for one, am excited to see these come out. I'm currently looking for a more traditional look to my PC+ and where I think I want to put the sub, wiring would be near impossible. These may be just the ticket (pending $$ info, of course.) :D

So is the new SB13-Plus going to have a substantial edge over the 12" version?

Well, I for one, am excited to see these come out. I'm currently looking for a more traditional look to my PC+ and where I think I want to put the sub, wiring would be near impossible. These may be just the ticket (pending $$ info, of course.) :D

So is the new SB13-Plus going to have a substantial edge over the 12" version?

Bigger box, bigger driver, 1000 watt amp vs 525 so a decent bump in power...it should have a decent advantage.

Well, I for one, am excited to see these come out. I'm currently looking for a more traditional look to my PC+ and where I think I want to put the sub, wiring would be near impossible. These may be just the ticket (pending $$ info, of course.) :D

So is the new SB13-Plus going to have a substantial edge over the 12" version?

The question for you is not whether the SB-13 Plus is going to have a substantial edge over the SB-12 Plus (since you are running a PC + (not an SB-12 Plus).

IMHO going from a PC+ to the SB-13 Plus is essentially an incremental increase in performance.

If you want something that is a whole magnitude of difference. The SB-16 is the ticket.

The question for you is not whether the SB-13 Plus is going to have a substantial edge over the SB-12 Plus (since you are running a PC + (not an SB-12 Plus).

IMHO going from a PC+ to the SB-13 Plus is essentially an incremental increase in performance.

If you want something that is a whole magnitude of difference. The SB-16 is the ticket.

Thanks for the comments. I do agree, however, I do need to take size and price into account. I guess that remains to be seen once SVS releases the final spec and $$ info.

I'm not necessarily looking for an increase in SPL from my PC+, rather I'm looking for a more traditional look and wireless would be a huge plus. So I guess we'll have to wait for some comments on them and see how it goes. I'm sure both will be real nice.

Wireless IMO is dumb because you still need a power cord! So technically it isn't really wireless...

Is it my imagination or did you ask if the SB-13 Plus is going to have a substantial edge over the SB-12 Plus?

Perhaps you should change your wording. "Substantial Edge" = higher performance, not looks and wireless. Those are peripheral issues.

If I were you I wouldn't spend any additional money for looks and wireless, but to each his own. Also note that some people have had problems with interference with wireless.

Wireless IMO is dumb because you still need a power cord! So technically it isn't really wireless...

Might not help everyone, but with the AVR in only 1 place in the room, and power outlets every 4-5' (or whatever code says), it definitely helps in my situation. Saves me from running a sub cable across a doorway, or behind molding or under carpet (which I don't have)

Wireless IMO is dumb because you still need a power cord! So technically it isn't really wireless...

But if you locate your sub near a outlet "and there's usually more than enough" you wont have to run your cable from your receiver across the room 20ft or what ever your application requires .

SVS if you are listening, any idea when price and availability info might be able to be confirmed?

The SB13-Plus will be released before the SB16-Ultra. Beyond that, we're not releasing any additional information about pricing/availability until we get ready to launch pre-orders.

To answer a previous question, yes - naturally the SB13-Plus will have significantly more performance than the SB12-Plus - the driver and the box are larger and the amp has more power.

I have to tell ya, it's very comforting to know that at this point I don't have to even consider upgrading to the SB16-Ultra, as the Ultra 13 I currently own is so ridiculous in my room that any additional headroom would just be gross overkill. Further, it'd be hard to imagine the 16 being "much" more musical than the 13 either- prolly at least not enough to fight WW4 with the other half after an even larger box sneeks into our living room (the 13 was WW3, BTW)!

Probably the highest compliment that I can pay, actually.

That said, one day though,...in a biGGER ROOM!?

I'm fine with wireless if it of course is 99.9% immune to spurious input. And since I haven't worked with anything wireless that is yet, I'm a bit skeptical. The placement advantages of it though are hugely obvious.

James

I agree im so happy with my pb13 ultra in my HT I have no desire to upgrade, with that being said it is nice that SVS is always looking to improve performance and or give you different options depending on your own needs .

I have to tell ya, it's very comforting to know that at this point I don't have to even consider upgrading to the SB16-Ultra, as the Ultra 13 I currently own is so ridiculous in my room that any additional overhead would just be gross overkill. Further, it'd be hard to imagine the 16 being "much" more musical than the 13 either- prolly at least not enough to fight WW4 with the other half after an even larger box sneeks into our living room (the 13 was WW3, BTW)!

Probably the highest compliment that I can pay, actually.

That said, one day though,...in a biGGER ROOM!?

I'm fine with wireless if it of course is 99.9% immune to spurious input. And since I haven't worked with anything wireless that is yet, I'm a bit skeptical. The placement advantages of it though are hugely obvious.

James

Previous discussions about the upcoming SB16 vs. the current 13Ultra seem to indicate that the PB13 will continue to be the performance leader in the SVS line due to it's larger box and ported design. The SB16 will be an option for those who want a sealed design in a more compact box.

I don't see myself replacing my PB13 any time soon.