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It followed me home. Can I keep it? :D

lmfao!! uh, uh, hey honey, uh, uh, look at this nice new speaker i found just needing a new home!! :D

No sh*t lol. You are a brave man. How that sucker sound???

I'm going to run Audessy and Antimode when I get home. Just had a buddy help me lug all 250 lbs of it up two flights of stairs. It is HUGE!

Time to upgrade those speakers too now!

When my SVS arrived (12/2+) The phone call I got was

"your ****ing speaker is here" ...click

It was as big as a small car when it was on the pallet.

only 250 lbs? is that the 1812? so if you dragged up 2 flights of stairs i wonder f you are an apartment dweller, amd if so, in my crystal ball i see you homeless soon. to avoid this travesty please mail it to me directly so i can store it for you indefinitely.:p:D

otherwise, you definitely have my permission to keep it!!:cool:

Time to upgrade those speakers too now!

and reinforce the whole house with concrete!

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It followed me home. Can I keep it? :D

I assume you already have 2 dozen roses, chocolates, and a gift certificate for the spa lined up for the wifde..right?

That thing is a beast! WHo makes it?

dAVE

It is a Danley TH50.

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tapped_horn.asp?MODEL=TH%2050

It's an end table.

I can hear it now as the op's wife says "what is the purpose of this thing".

It followed me home. Can I keep it?It has to stay out in the garage.

If you dont mind me asking im sure everyone is wondering. What did that sucker set you back???

It's an end table.

End Table? That sub makes a conquest seem not so bad.

If this is in your living room, you're right, she is gonna kill you

It's an end table.

Exactly! Just put some feet on it, and put it on it's side. Presto! End table!

I do feel for your downstairs neighbors, though. :D

only 250 lbs? is that the 1812? so if you dragged up 2 flights of stairs i wonder f you are an apartment dweller, amd if so, in my crystal ball i see you homeless soon. to avoid this travesty please mail it to me directly so i can store it for you indefinitely.:p:D

otherwise, you definitely have my permission to keep it!!:cool:

Actually it is at a house, but thanks for the offer! I rented Bolt Bluray tonight, so we will see what she can do...:)

I assume you already have 2 dozen roses, chocolates, and a gift certificate for the spa lined up for the wifde..right?

That thing is a beast! WHo makes it?

dAVE

cschang is right. It is a Danley Sound Labs TH-50. My wife is out of town for work, so when she comes home....surprise.....its a doghouse!!!!

BTW, her b-day is Monday....;)

maybe try to sell it to the wifey by 'framing' it as a piece of 'nuveau art':cool:

i am reassured to know they principally design for VENUES!! cant wait to hear your impression...wait a minute did that explosion i just hear come from your home theater?:D

Thats the same technique I used. Bought all of my speakers one by one everytime she was out of the country. Took about a week before she realised the new addition. Hopefully you've got that long to think about something....anything. Zales? Jared? Tiffany & Co? Good advice to upgrade all the speaker one time. Take the beating in one shot.

That's a nice new equipment rack you got to the left of the TV. :rolleyes:

Now, what's the fuss about?

I decided to watch "Hitman" tonight instead of BOLT....and I am taking a break to write.

This sub is devastating. I have that paltry Dayton Audio rack amp that puts out maybe 500-600 watts into the TH50 and On the scene where he assassinates the Russian President, the bass was overwhelming and superbly clean. This is the cleanest/most unimaginable bass I have ever heard...EVER.

I will post more later.

oh man,, you guys were talking about the sub... i thought it was the picture that hanging on the wall.. :eek:

Wow that baby is big!!! Congrats nice looking sub :)

When my SVS arrived (12/2+) The phone call I got was

"your ****ing speaker is here" ...click

It was as big as a small car when it was on the pallet.

LOL Thats to funny and brought back memories :D

It's an end table.

Looks more like a vault.

When my SVS arrived (12/2+) The phone call I got was

"your ****ing speaker is here" ...click


LOL okay that's the funniest thing I've heard all week...

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It followed me home. Can I keep it? :D

My wife would say: "sure, and you can sleep in it too! G'night!" *click*

OMG... I just got an eD A2-300 midget (compared to that TH-50 of yours) delivered today, and since she got home earlier than I did, my wife had to drag it in when FedEx just dropped it on the front porch. When I got home, I saw that stare from her (yes, THAT stare you all got at least once :p). Well, the first thing I said?

"Honey, you didn't just rolled the box in, did you?"

Big mistake... :( Her response was,

"Your god damn subwoofer is more important than my back to you, isn't it?"

Now I'm in the doghouse for a while... But at least it was worth it... :p

By the way, doesn't TH-50 recommend some space around it? I think it is too close to the walls and the TV rack...

And definitely you have to upgrade your amp... Feeding a sub with 2kW capability with 500W amp is not going to cut it... Now I'm trying to get you in more trouble. :D But seriously, let the sub sing, man! It's PA sub, which is designed for stage use. You have to give it some space around it (the more the better), and feed it with nice QSC or Crown PA amp... I've seen it in action with about 1200W power amps, and boy, they let your chest feel the bass, not your ears...

Try track 4 of Pomps and Pipes by Dallas Wind Symphony (http://www.amazon.com/Pomp-Pipes-Dallas-Wind-Symphony/dp/B00000159M/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1238562381&sr=8-3) and see how it sounds. It's going to give a nice workout for your new beast.

Enjoy! I envy you~

Want a Female opinion?

I would put that in the horizonal way, put a nice table cloth and use it as a tea table!

:p

Actually, I would complain it is a bit too big.. but then.. I would make you buy me a set of B&W 802D, stentor III subwoofer, classe amps and pre, emm labs cd, and build my audio room!

If your wife kills you I'll be in touch with her to pick up the sub you borrowed from me. :)
Congrats.

I just showed that new sub to my wife... "My God what is that!", she said... I told her I would have to hide something like that in the back room, and she replied with, "no, you and it would both be in the barn.":D

Good luck dude, because I think you are in for a world of hurt!:eek: Just like when my SVS PC13-Ultra arrived, thank God I had a place for it in my basement HT in an out of the way corner... She would have killed me if I dropped something like that into OUR living room.

Yeah she's going to chop you up into 52 pieces sub bass as well.:D

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/Brainstorm3417/straitjacket.jpg

I dropped a mfw into our small living room, and its now a end table on the left side of the couch....

The end the wife sits at...MUHAHAHAHAHA!

Want a Female opinion?

I would put that in the horizonal way, put a nice table cloth and use it as a tea table!

:p

Actually, I would complain it is a bit too big.. but then.. I would make you buy me a set of B&W 802D, stentor III subwoofer, classe amps and pre, emm labs cd, and build my audio room!

Nice :)

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It followed me home. Can I keep it? :D

Weird. I have the same IKEA Tobo cabinet and I have a strong desire for the same sub. We must be twins separated at birth. Except you seem to have the money for the TH50 and I don't.

My wife is coming home Sat and I am wondering if I should not tell her and see if she notices:p, or should I just get it out of the way and take the beating.

So far, this is the cleanest and loudest subwoofer I have ever heard. With 500 watts it is scary. The bass has such a clean sound with immediate impact and scary speed. After Audessey and AntiMode, the response is very smooth. I am going to try and figure out REW and get a plot soon.

I have been a Danley fan for a LONG time, and now I am even more. This is an amazing piece of equipment.:)

You took a nice picture of that beast....NOW take a picture of her expression when she first sees it. Post that if your still alive. Do you have a prenumptial agreement? :rolleyes:

Tell her about the sub while she is a away. Say "Honey, it's big like a refrigerator. But once you experience it, you'd simply loooove the bass". The intensity of her wrath will decrease by the time she is physically home cause she'd go through the spectrum of emotions before hand. And luckily for you, YOU"RE not there. Then when she see's it's more like a mini fridge she won't take fast wide swings and lunges at you.

You took a nice picture of that beast....NOW take a picture of her expression when she first sees it. Post that if your still alive. Do you have a prenumptial agreement? :rolleyes:
http://www.adultitis.org/media/woman_screaming.gif

Correct me if I am wrong but don't you already have 2 18" Malestrom-X in some VERY large sonotubes?

Why the switch to the new sub?

i like kate's idea and I have a feeling she is going to get A LOT of marriage proposals in this forum with comments like that:p:eek:

Awesome. Just awesome. I have heard the DTS-20 and the SPUD, but have yet to experience the big daddy. Have you heard the DTS-20 or the SPUD and can you make a comparison?

Edit: Just saw that you have (had?) huge sonotubes. How does this compare?

Awesome. Just awesome. I have heard the DTS-20 and the SPUD, but have yet to experience the big daddy. Have you heard the DTS-20 or the SPUD and can you make a comparison?

Edit: Just saw that you have (had?) huge sonotubes. How does this compare?

Well I HAD two massive Mal-x sonotubes which were impressive. You might recall that my wife made me sell them after awhile due to too much structural stress and looking "ugly" in the living area. I told her I was going to get a smaller sub and only one of them. She was happy with that description. We will see if she really understood.

I think the TH-50 is a good looking sub. It is smaller than two 17 cu/ft sonos, requires less power, and I actually enjoy the black Line-x coating and the exposed sub motor/magnet. So far, any house guests have no idea what to think of it until I fire it up.

I heard the DTS-20 at Infocomm a year or so ago and was impressed. It was in a less than perfect environment for demo and exhibited excellent extension and distortion free bass. It was my first taste of the tapped horn. I also heard Tom's Matterhorn http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/images/Matterhorn%20Finished.jpg which is 40 of the TH-50's drivers in a massive tapped horn (not me in the pic btw)! It was at low levels and made you nauseous if hung out in there too long while it played 5 hz sine waves.

The TH-50 is a monster. I am amp limited right now, but with test tones and a Galaxy SPL meter I am getting useable output to about 16Hz in room. I have an SMS-1 on order so we will see if that allows for a bit more tweaking.

The bass is so viscous and clean. It is a different sensation to hear the effect as it was intended. It seems so effortless and it never draws attention to itself. The amount of bass that pours out is astonishing. It is an experience I recommend for anyone looking for the ultimate in great extension and output without noticeable strain on the driver. I have heard or owned a decent amount of subwoofers, but for now, I have yet to hear better.

TnT.....I am going to go your route.

Thanks for the info. Now you just need to get some mains that can keep up. How about the SH50s? I am using the SH95s in my theater and they are truely amazing. Clarity that is unbelievable along with more output than I can possibly use. :)

I wish the TH50 was crossable at 80Hz, or Danley had a similar product that was. I have brand new JTR Triple 8s and 4 M&K THX surrounds.....so I'm mainly looking at a pair of SPUDS or DTS-20s when I get in a new house. Sure would love a TH50 or pair!! I'm jealous.

Kev, with some Eq the TH-50 would have no problem being crossed at 80Hz or a bit higher. That is where I have it now (80hz) and it performs very, very well. I ran my antimode to take care of the hump at ~65hz and it flattened out. :)

BTW....I have heard the JTR triple 12s at Jeffs's place and I bet the 8s are very similar is sound quality. Nice choice.

Anyone had any experience with the SH-Mini from Danley? Looks like a neat little speaker. I need a relatively compact set of fronts given my layout.

Buck, I do have an SMS-1 to use whenever I do get some subs again.....should that work to EQ and cross a TH50 at 80Hz?

Kev,

I will plot some REW plots when I figure it out and use the sms-1 to see what it can do. I will PM you when I get to that point.

Kev, with some Eq the TH-50 would have no problem being crossed at 80Hz or a bit higher. That is where I have it now (80hz) and it performs very, very well. I ran my antimode to take care of the hump at ~65hz and it flattened out. :)

BTW....I have heard the JTR triple 12s at Jeffs's place and I bet the 8s are very similar is sound quality. Nice choice.

Anyone had any experience with the SH-Mini from Danley? Looks like a neat little speaker. I need a relatively compact set of fronts given my layout.

Being able to cross it at 80Hz is a good thing for me. [If any of you remember my post about a sub for an 8500 cu. ft. room, the TH50 was at the top of the list.] It's good to see a satisfied customer. Usable output to 16Hz? Crossover at 80Hz? I'm sold (again). Keep the info coming!

After looking at the frequency response of the TH50 on Danley's website, I don't believe you would have any problems crossing the TH50 over at 80Hz. The sub is listed as -10db at 200Hz. The frequency response is not flat above 70Hz, BUT the room dominates the frequency response in any home space anyways. (At lower Freqs) Also, I think that saying the TH50 only has useable output to 16Hz is very misleading. The sub is capable of tremendous amounts of output and in a "small" room (I.E. not an auditorium) could be Eq'ed flat to MUCH lower (if you think it is necessary). Four TH50s are "flat" to 10 Hz in an IMAX theater according to Mike Hedden.

After looking at the frequency response of the TH50 on Danley's website, I don't believe you would have any problems crossing the TH50 over at 80Hz. The sub is listed as -10db at 200Hz. The frequency response is not flat above 70Hz, BUT the room dominates the frequency response in any home space anyways. (At lower Freqs) Also, I think that saying the TH50 only has useable output to 16Hz is very misleading. The sub is capable of tremendous amounts of output and in a small room could be Eq'ed flat to MUCH lower (if you think it is necessary). Four TH50s are "flat" to 10 Hz in an IMAX theater according to Mike Hedden.

I don't want to convey that they will only go to 16Hz. They have so much headroom you could EQ them much lower still. I will try a few options as soon as I can.

i don't see the big deal. what other use was your wife going to put that precious corner real estate to? a tiffany lamp on an french accent table? come on. as for aesthetics...put a plant on it, call it a plant holder.

next, you need to change her thinking on this. when her friends come over, she should brag about how you have the "biggest one" in town. then her girlfriends will be asking their husbands how they can upgrade. ;-)

I have an EP2500 still in a box, I think I will do a quiet fan mod and let her rip soon. With 500 watts, I am loving it. 2000 watts.....? Transporter 3 tonight. So far...it is scary loud...

Fanbrain....you will fall in love with this sub. I have hit over 110db several times during this movie with my Galaxy SPL meter. VERY open floorplan.

LTD...I am working on the plant holder idea...

Can you take a close up photo of the driver?

The MTX Thunder T9515-44?

I just wanted to see what the port with the exposed driver looks like up close. Also, what size is that flat panel for reference?

50" panasonic plasma THX. The horn flare is in the upper direction...

That just might be the worst choice for a sub on the planet from a Wife-acceptance factor. It seems like something that belongs in the back of the room - away from the eyes.

That just might be the worst choice for a sub on the planet from a Wife-acceptance factor. It seems like something that belongs in the back of the room - away from the eyes.

Function over form. It's beauty to me.

Function over form. It's beauty to me.

Amen brother:cool:

It's ok....at least you did not get the TH-221. That bugger has the output of 4X TH50 and is 60x60x28. LOL! That said, its really too much for home use, even if you have a 20000 cu ft room.

Amen brother:cool:

Originally Posted by fanbrain
Function over form. It's beauty to me.


Agreed. But keep in mind that Danley can do custom finishes. I'll take my TH50 in piano black please. :D

Agreed. But keep in mind that Danley can do custom finishes. I'll take my TH50 in piano black please. :D

Have you ever had to care for a PB finish:eek:.

These things are not living room friendly. A PB or wood veneer will not help much. Look, if you have a dedicated room and or are single or like me, you just don't give a shite then no issues. Simply making it shiny isn't going to improve the WAF. It is what it is and it ain't pretty.

Gonna let er rip tonight.....hooked up the ep2500 bridged.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35178359@N07/3407419811/

Gonna let er rip tonight.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35178359@N07/3407419811/

Thanks for the Pics! :)

Gonna let er rip tonight.....hooked up the ep2500 bridged.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35178359@N07/3407419811/

Buck, where is the horn exit on the TH50?

Have you ever had to care for a PB finish:eek:.

These things are not living room friendly. A PB or wood veneer will not help much. Look, if you have a dedicated room and or are single or like me, you just don't give a shite then no issues. Simply making it shiny isn't going to improve the WAF. It is what it is and it ain't pretty.

I like the look of this sub. It screams, "Don't F&$* with me!" :cool:

But if the WAF is a consideration your probably screwed... Unless... How about piano white? ;) :D
http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/danleyport.asp?ID=53

I need a break already.....:eek:

I am getting 120-124db peaks on very bass heavy music at seating position. My mains have NO chance....:o Gonna start saving:(

It makes your vision blur at those levels. Need to give my ears and my house a rest. This thing is an animal while still being articulate and oh so clean. Great SQ even at mind numbing levels.

This is too much fun!:D

I better get this thrashing out of the way before Sat.

Buck, where is the horn exit on the TH50?

All sound exits from the same opening the driver is in.

I like the look of this sub. It screams, "Don't F&$* with me!" :cool:

But if the WAF is a consideration your probably screwed... Unless... How about piano white? ;) :D
http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/danleyport.asp?ID=53

I liked the piano white, but I didn't want to pay for it..

thebuckaman, the exit looks small wrt to the freq/SPL, do you get a slight chuffing noise when it is at really high SPLs or with certain content be it music or HT? Perhaps it would be masked at LP and other portions of the room, but you just might hear it when you are near and perpendicular to the horn exit (there is probably still some bass directivity compared to other designs).

It is a Danley TH50.

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tapped_horn.asp?MODEL=TH%2050

LOL... and per Danley's website...

"APPLICATIONS

Houses of worship
Commercial theatre sound
Live music venues
Discos
High end home theatre"


I wonder if OP's house now qualifies?!

thebuckaman, the exit looks small wrt to the freq/SPL, do you get a slight chuffing noise when it is at really high SPLs or with certain content be it music or HT? Perhaps it would be masked at LP and other portions of the room, but you just might hear it when you are near and perpendicular to the horn exit (there is probably still some bass directivity compared to other designs).

I haven't run into any chuffing issues as of yet. I am pushing the sub pretty hard with the EP2500 and when it is full tilt, I plug my ears when I have to adjust the amp....it is THAT loud.

I will let you know if I hear any chuffing. I got a gamut of music and movies I want to throw at it.

I haven't run into any chuffing issues as of yet. I am pushing the sub pretty hard with the EP2500 and when it is full tilt, I plug my ears when I have to adjust the amp....it is THAT loud.

I will let you know if I hear any chuffing. I got a gamut of music and movies I want to throw at it.


Thanks. You may also wish to check the NL4 sockets area (at the back) and see if it leaks....its easy to locate just do a freq sweep at high levels. Just screw it out and put a thin strip of foam as gasket, that solved it for me.
I have a TH-112, I think by the same standards we are getting the same bass levels, just that yours dig 10Hz lower. But my room is much smaller so there is more gain that starts from 40Hz. :D .

A new toy surely is interesting for the first few weeks, as time goes by you may start to yearn for more. :D

These sounds probably do not show up in a harmonic distortion sweep, from my user interviews with other subs which are documented. But most of the time it would not show up at LP due to location of the noises vs room loading of the bass etc....nevertheless its not a cheap box and you surely would want to get it right.

2100...I will look into what you were explaining.

On a side note, tomorrow is D-Day...:(

I bought some nice flowers and arranged for dinner at a nice restaurant. Hopefully she lets me keep it (If not, I dare her to try and get it out of the house!).

We will see what happens. Wish me luck.....;)

2100...I will look into what you were explaining.

On a side note, tomorrow is D-Day...:(

I bought some nice flowers and arranged for dinner at a nice restaurant. Hopefully she lets me keep it (If not, I dare her to try and get it out of the house!).

We will see what happens. Wish me luck.....;)


The old it’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission technique ... I like it!:D

Good luck Buck. Listen, my moto has always been....if you can afford it and it makes you happy.....get it! As long as you aren't spending your mortgage payment, child's education fund, car note etc., I'll win my case everytime :) She should understand that. If she is that sensitive to her design tastes and asthetics with regards to the home, I can understand because a lot of women are. But she'll get over it and the flowers and dinner will just help speed up the healing a little. ;)

I have an EP2500 still in a box, I think I will do a quiet fan mod and let her rip soon. With 500 watts, I am loving it. 2000 watts.....? Transporter 3 tonight. So far...it is scary loud...

Fanbrain....you will fall in love with this sub. I have hit over 110db several times during this movie with my Galaxy SPL meter. VERY open floorplan.

LTD...I am working on the plant holder idea...

I hit 111 db peaks in 6,500 cu. ft. room with a single Epik Tower which has 500 watts as well. I am surprised at how low that number is with a Danley product. I was expecting you to say 120db. Maybe with 2,000 watts?

-Chad


EDIT: I just saw your post saying you have hit peaks of 124db with the Danley which makes a LOT more sense. As far as mains are concerned I'd recommend looking into the GedLee Summas, Mark Seaton's Catalysts, or JTR Triple 8/12/12LF's. Those are some of the only ones I personally know of that will keep up with your subwoofer.

Is that a home sub?:eek:. wow wow wow wow.

Is that a home sub?:eek:. wow wow wow wow.

It's an HTIB:p

Is that a home sub?:eek:. wow wow wow wow.

Nope, it's a commercial sub that happens to be in a home :D

It's an HTIB:p

New category. HTIA....Home Theater In an Arena set.... or Audotorium. ;)

I'll be the casket designer. :p

You my friend are a dead man. Hahaha. Well, if your wife is anything like mine you are. I have a hard enough time keeping my electronics in an open cabinet (she wants them locked away). It'd definitely be "it's me or the sub" in this case haha.

That TH50 in Piano White Glossy Finish is drop dead gorgeous! I love the look of that sub. Especially the side view. A very different look, AND functional. Place it next to some distorted vases you wouldnt even know it was a sub.
What was the cost of that sub?

2100...I will look into what you were explaining.

On a side note, tomorrow is D-Day...:(

I bought some nice flowers and arranged for dinner at a nice restaurant. Hopefully she lets me keep it (If not, I dare her to try and get it out of the house!).

We will see what happens. Wish me luck.....;)

The same thing happened to me. I just bought it without asking and she was at home when Bax Global came and dropped the package, she was the one who signed off and yes it was also something along the likes calling me and saying "your big f***ing USA sub came" just in local dialect! :D
Just get her something and she'd accept the sub. In fact she was ok with me spending on audio, but she just can't accept the fact that I got some unknown brand Danley Sound Labs rather than Peavey or Mackie (those brands are quite popular in her hometown in Indonesia! I'm surprised that she knows. LOL!).

Seriously I had no space to put it in the room, as its only a 14x9.5 feet room, so i fire it through the door (its on wheels remember)....so I am slightly worse off than ya....

Ivan told me I could do the same with a TH-221 half cut, aka TH-121. LOL! :D But seriously I think I'd be happy with just a PC13-U or two or a Mal-21 or something, its just to augment the ULF.

Hi thebuckman

Well first, welcome to the relatively small group that has TH-50’s in a living room.
The TH-50 was my attempt to make an extended low end subwoofer where one would keep up reasonably well with an SH-50.
The TH-50’s and the SH-50’s as well as other of our full range systems are normally used in large playback systems, larger than living rooms but there are advantages there and “headroom is your friend”.

A side “hifi” benefit of the Tapped horn like in the TH-50 is that the sensitivity and power capacity are higher than hifi speakers, they typically have about half the group delay that a vented system with the same low cutoff would have (with no port choking at high power).
With the Synergy horn loading like in the SH-50 is that the acoustic phase is such that it can reproduce a square wave, from near perfect to pretty good, from about 250Hz to 2800Hz, something very few “hifi” speaker at any price can do and it produces no polar radiation lobes at crossover or any other frequency something essentially no multiway hifi speaker do.
There is a white paper if you want some explanation of the workings etc.
http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/pdf/danley_tapped.pdf

Anyway, I have a pair of TH-50’s under SH-50’s and have never felt like I was running out of gas or needed more in any way, which to be honest felt weird for a while..
Of course to keep the TH-50 in perspective, four TH-50’s are sufficient to provide the LF for a large room like the Imax theater at Navy Pier in Chicago (with SH-96’s left center and right) so when you describe what you hear in your living room, it might be hard to convey haha.

On a more serious note, a bass note, does she have a favorite movie that has VLF content? If so, show her what it is about by playing her flick at a modest level.

Next time she goes out again, go to our website and down load the fireworks recording and burn it to a CD. DO NOT convert it to an mp3, I have not heard a compression format that didn’t just kill the dynamics of this.
I played this one over and over at first, until my daughter said “DAAaaaD”.
Sound files are at bottom of page, enjoy good luck.

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/technical%20downloads.html

Best,
Tom Danley

thebuckaman, the exit looks small wrt to the freq/SPL, do you get a slight chuffing noise when it is at really high SPLs or with certain content be it music or HT? Perhaps it would be masked at LP and other portions of the room, but you just might hear it when you are near and perpendicular to the horn exit (there is probably still some bass directivity compared to other designs).

We did the transversal driver position for eye candy, kinda like having the hood up on a big chromed out engine block. There is zero port/exit noise with the TH50. I should know, I test and demo them practically everyday and have two of them along with a pair of SH50's for my HT mains.
Someone asked about the SHmini, we have folks that have bought those with CS30 subs for HT usage with great results. If you are looking for the most cost effective/high output/ low cutoff top box, i'd recommend the SH100. It is an amazing box and at only 8" deep takes up very little room. I use an SH100 for my center channel and sonically it blends very well with the 50/50 pair.

Mike Hedden
Danley Sound Labs, Inc.

that is crazy. Have any video of your drywall falling off:D

I guess the cost for shipping this thing overseas would be quite high + taxes + luxury finish (or divorce).

What is a rough base price for this thing?

I'll be the casket designer. :p

His wife won't need your services. She will bury him inside the sub! :rolleyes:

Is she home yet?

Is she home yet?

We probably won't hear from him again.

We probably won't hear from him again.

That's what I was thinking, poor guy. At least he got to listen to that thing, before, you know.:(

I guess the cost for shipping this thing overseas would be quite high + taxes + luxury finish (or divorce).

What is a rough base price for this thing?

Not really expensive.
PC-13U costs usd230 to ship over. 16 dia + 46 height. Not sure about box size. 90lbs
TH-112 costs usd280 to ship over. 30x38x18, plus 1" all round double boxed. 160lbs.
Both via Bax/Schenker door-to-door.
2x Lambda TD15M drivers, 26kg small boxes, usd241. Bax also. ARGH!!
I got a couple of shipments from usspeakers. Just Faital Pro 2 CDs + 2 horns = usd 165. Double ARGH! USPS Express sux! 5 shipments halfway round the world, nothing destroyed....phew.

Product pricing I'll leave Mike to do the talking.... :)
IF you want discounts, contact guys like InPhase or Soundood (1-1 talk), more discounts if you believe in Gedees/Harmon/Welti multisub approach and get 3. ;)

Is she home yet?

t-minus roughly 7 hours.......:eek:

t-minus roughly 7 hours.......:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNsJUmFrUCA

Do you have a backup, like a diamond ring?

Why is the price paid such a secret?

Why is the price paid such a secret?

I found 2003 pricing in Euros for Danley product. The TH-50 was about $3,300 passive at the time, and about $5,000 powered and DSP correction.

This of course is 6 years old so I'd add 25% and those are probably rough retail prices. Of course this is all speculation and a random list I found on the internet too :D

-Chad

Buck, did you get to mess around with REW or the SMS--1 yet? Curious to see what the 70-80Hz range looks like and if that needs any significant boosting. Hope all goes well today ;)

Buck, did you get to mess around with REW or the SMS--1 yet? Curious to see what the 70-80Hz range looks like and if that needs any significant boosting. Hope all goes well today ;)

Kevin,
We have the sensitivity/response for all our products on the website. As an aside, fascinating how difficult if not impossible it is to find similar data from other manufacturers. But at any rate per the measured response the TH50 has an increase of around 5-10dB from 50-70Hz. If you need to take the sub higher than that you certainly can and with a little eq it is flat to 100Hz. I would argue if you need a sub much past 70 Hz you really need to look at replacing your tops. Any of the auto correction programs for standard sized HT rooms and their resulting "correction" curves are showing you the transfer function of your room not the subwoofer. A big boost for one mic location will create imbalances in other seating postions. Bottom line is if you have the room, the TH50 will get much louder than our DTS20 or THSPUD@20Hz.

Mike Hedden
Danley Sound Labs, Inc.

I'm kinda excited. Can't wait to see the outcome of the homecoming.

Thanks Mike. I will need to cross at 80Hz though. My new JTR LCRs are only good from 80 and up and my 4 surrounds are M&K THX surrounds. The TH50, DTS and SPUD are all on my short list and I'll more than likely get a pair. My room will be approx. 3800-3900 cu. ft. (17'.9"w x 21'.9"l x 10'h) Guess I wouldn't know until I get them and try them, but I'm just trying to determine if I can easliy get a TH50 or pair integrated in this scenario. I have an SMS-1 to use but don't want to have to buy any other EQ equipment. Everything is purchased and waiting accept subs and a video system. Even have a Face Audio F1200TS for sub amp duty.

Why is the price paid such a secret?

$3132.00 plus shipping will get you one...

Buck, did you get to mess around with REW or the SMS--1 yet? Curious to see what the 70-80Hz range looks like and if that needs any significant boosting. Hope all goes well today ;)

So far I have added a little boost at around 80Hz mostly to try and match my mains. I have an inherently bad problem with 80Hz as is with my room.

I did switch the phase of one of my mains, and it got rid of a nasty dip I had. Maybe wired backward at the factory?

So far I have added a little boost at around 80Hz mostly to try and match my mains. I have an inherently bad problem with 80Hz as is with my room.

I did switch the phase of one of my mains, and it got rid of a nasty dip I had. Maybe wired backward at the factory?

Buck, did you boost with the SMS? How many dBs did u have to up it?

$3132.00 plus shipping will get you one...

Yeah, but how much will it cost you to ship it back when wifeypoo gets home?:D

And nice to see you are still with us.

Hi thebuckman

Well first, welcome to the relatively small group that has TH-50’s in a living room.
The TH-50 was my attempt to make an extended low end subwoofer where one would keep up reasonably well with an SH-50.
The TH-50’s and the SH-50’s as well as other of our full range systems are normally used in large playback systems, larger than living rooms but there are advantages there and “headroom is your friend”.

A side “hifi” benefit of the Tapped horn like in the TH-50 is that the sensitivity and power capacity are higher than hifi speakers, they typically have about half the group delay that a vented system with the same low cutoff would have (with no port choking at high power).
With the Synergy horn loading like in the SH-50 is that the acoustic phase is such that it can reproduce a square wave, from near perfect to pretty good, from about 250Hz to 2800Hz, something very few “hifi” speaker at any price can do and it produces no polar radiation lobes at crossover or any other frequency something essentially no multiway hifi speaker do.
There is a white paper if you want some explanation of the workings etc.
http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/pdf/danley_tapped.pdf

Anyway, I have a pair of TH-50’s under SH-50’s and have never felt like I was running out of gas or needed more in any way, which to be honest felt weird for a while..
Of course to keep the TH-50 in perspective, four TH-50’s are sufficient to provide the LF for a large room like the Imax theater at Navy Pier in Chicago (with SH-96’s left center and right) so when you describe what you hear in your living room, it might be hard to convey haha.

On a more serious note, a bass note, does she have a favorite movie that has VLF content? If so, show her what it is about by playing her flick at a modest level.

Next time she goes out again, go to our website and down load the fireworks recording and burn it to a CD. DO NOT convert it to an mp3, I have not heard a compression format that didn’t just kill the dynamics of this.
I played this one over and over at first, until my daughter said “DAAaaaD”.
Sound files are at bottom of page, enjoy good luck.

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/technical%20downloads.html

Best,
Tom Danley

Tom,

I have heard the SH-50's over TH-115 and they were incredible. At low levels, the fidelity was still very apparent. Then even at very high levels, the sound was still behaved and a pleasure to listen to. I have a friend who lent me some older RUNTS for a week or so. I never tired of the sound...and there was a great deal of listening. InPhase had talked about the SH-95's in his HT and loving them. I am going to have to start saving pennies.

BTW...I downloaded the fireworks track from your website. I am burning it now.:D

Mike H. I am glad you guys went the motor showoff route with the driver. It is a nice touch and adds to the "what the hell is that:eek:" effect I get from friends and family.

I hope my wife agrees...:confused:

Yeah, but how much will it cost you to ship it back when wifeypoo gets home?:D

And nice to see you are still with us.

The better question is how would I ever ship it? I am hoping that helps make her decision to keep it easier....:D

Currently cleaning the house...putting flowers in a vase..doing dishes..putting away all of the cables and mics and cds that I have strewn about the living room. I am in to win.:D

The better question is how would I ever ship it? I am hoping that helps make her decision to keep it easier....:D

Currently cleaning the house...putting flowers in a vase..doing dishes..putting away all of the cables and mics and cds that I have strewn about the living room. I am in to win.:D

Better break out the thong and mood music!:D:eek::D

My wife saw your photos and got mad at me!:confused:

The better question is how would I ever ship it? I am hoping that helps make her decision to keep it easier....:D

Currently cleaning the house...putting flowers in a vase..doing dishes..putting away all of the cables and mics and cds that I have strewn about the living room. I am in to win.:D

Hopefully it's one of those cases where you unnecessarily build up the worst case scenario in your mind and when she finally does get home, it's no big deal at all. Keep us posted.

The better question is how would I ever ship it? I am hoping that helps make her decision to keep it easier....:D

Currently cleaning the house...putting flowers in a vase..doing dishes..putting away all of the cables and mics and cds that I have strewn about the living room. I am in to win.:D

So, with the sub in the back seat of the car, is there room for you to sleep in the front seat?

Bill

You have to explain the sub and the $3k you dropped on it. I wish you the best! Tell her if she is ok with it the guys at AVS would be green with envy! :)

Unfortunately in this world, for normal people all this WAF issue stems from the fact that our money is not unlimited...Because if it was I would buy her a "STFUP whatever it is $1m diamond per finger + a huge dedicated room/home in the garden for me.

And problem solved.


Now let me see how "I" am going to get a sub or two at home..

Well, initial response was not favorable due to the size and the um................. size. I have played a lot of her favorite music on the system for the past few hours and she is coming around a bit. Going to let her play some more stuff on it (fortunately she likes good music so it will help). She liked the flowers.....and we leave for dinner in a little while.

Pros
-I am still alive
-She didn't yell
-She was open to listen to it
-She is listening to it as I type
-She wants to hear it with a movie.
-She can't sell it without me knowing, because there is no way to secretly move it.
-She does think the sub mounted inverted looks cool.

Cons
-She won't stop complaining how much room it takes up.
-She keeps asking what it cost and I am avoiding that answer like the plague.

So far, better than what I was hoping.

So, with the sub in the back seat of the car, is there room for you to sleep in the front seat?

Bill

That made me laugh just thinking about it

Well, initial response was not favorable due to the size and the um................. size. I have played a lot of her favorite music on the system for the past few hours and she is coming around a bit. Going to let her play some more stuff on it (fortunately she likes good music so it will help). She liked the flowers.....and we leave for dinner in a little while.

Pros
-I am still alive
-She didn't yell
-She was open to listen to it
-She is listening to it as I type
-She wants to hear it with a movie.
-She can't sell it without me knowing, because there is no way to secretly move it.
-She does think the sub mounted inverted looks cool.

Cons
-She won't stop complaining how much room it takes up.
-She keeps asking what it cost and I am avoiding that answer like the plague.

So far, better than what I was hoping.

Good deal Buck....it sounds like all will be okay...whew! Have a nice dinner! And sounds like you've got a heck of a gal there. :)

$3132.00 plus shipping will get you one...

This is correct. I don't want to turn this into a sales thread so please PM me for more information or package deals. :)

Thebuckaman, I'm glad you are still alive. :p

Even if you told her $1556 (half price) she'd still freak out :D . Glad to hear things are going well. Hide all records of the amt actually paid. Don't want that to come back n bite you.

Cons
-She won't stop complaining how much room it takes up.
-She keeps asking what it cost and I am avoiding that answer like the plague.



This sounds exactally like when I got my Ultra. She's stopped complaining about the size and stopped asking the price. The last time she asked what it cost I told her she could google it if she really wanted to know. I'm unsure wether or not she did...

Now I only get complaints about it shaking/rattling our townhouse/neighbor's house.

Well it has been a few weeks since the TH50 was brought into the home. The sub seems to be getting even better! The wife is loving it due to the "neat" things it does that "our other speakers never did." That includes several very nice subwoofers. We watched Ironman today and the bass from this sub is squeaky clean and full of so much impact. There is non-stop wonderful bass in this movie. If anyone can fit this sub, get it!!!!

Any other must hear movies?

I also bought the NIN Blu ray. WONDERFUL!!!!!:eek:

Does this mean your wife isn't going to kill you? Or do you give her plenty of other motives?;)

The wife is on board with the new sub finally. She admits it is waaaay too big, but she stopped...for now. These tapped horns are so wonderful at what they do. Unlike anything I have ever heard. I have the SMS-1 now, and I like it a bit better than the 8033 Antimode. I used JBL's SMAART to measure, and the freq response is better with the SMS-1. What should I do about my mains?

The wife is on board with the new sub finally. She admits it is waaaay too big, but she stopped...for now. These tapped horns are so wonderful at what they do. Unlike anything I have ever heard. I have the SMS-1 now, and I like it a bit better than the 8033 Antimode. I used JBL's SMAART to measure, and the freq response is better with the SMS-1. What should I do about my mains?

3 SH50s?!?!?! :)

3 sh50s?!?!?! :)

+1

I bet your wife would love the sub even more if she sat on it, and you hummed into the microphone!

The wife is on board with the new sub finally. She admits it is waaaay too big, but she stopped...for now. These tapped horns are so wonderful at what they do. Unlike anything I have ever heard. I have the SMS-1 now, and I like it a bit better than the 8033 Antimode. I used JBL's SMAART to measure, and the freq response is better with the SMS-1. What should I do about my mains?

JBL SMARTT hmm, free download software and even if it is I don’t think I’ve got enough data left to run a new faster program.

So the wife hasn’t hacked you up yet, “she’s loving it” interesting.