View Full Version : ˇˇˇˇSURVEYˇˇˇˇ Are you trading your HD DVDs in for Blu Rays?
SSEiYah 04-01-09, 09:25 PM About 50 of my HD DVD titles are on Blu Ray now. I am patiently waiting for deals on eBay and Amazon for used copies for the BD.
Who is upgrading to the Blu Ray copies after purchasing the HD DVDs?
Any movies you are keeping on HD DVD for a reason?
mondaycurse 04-01-09, 09:40 PM Rebuying seems like a huge hassle to me, plus the extra costs. What would be the point?
ccotenj 04-01-09, 09:42 PM why bother? it wouldn't be an "upgrade", unless there's a better transfer available on the blu-ray...
dad1153 04-01-09, 09:48 PM I like money: the way it smells, feels and makes a nice wad in my pocket. Why would I want to part company with my money for a BD when an identical-looking/sounding (or close enough to not be worth the hastle) HD-DVD is already sitting in my man cave? Unless it's a dramatic-enough improvement that it makes the HD-DVD version look like a DVD I have to say... NO DEAL HOWIE!!! :p
stopdrpnro 04-01-09, 10:01 PM i'm actually still buying more and more movies on hd dvd. i only buy new movies on bluray. if i can find it on hd dvd i won't buy the bluray. 6$ vs $30 for the the same movies 6$ wins every time.
Why in the world would anyone do that??
NO WAY FOR ME!!
webphilosopher 04-02-09, 12:55 AM Blu-ray is not an "upgrade" when it comes to video quality. This is not like selling VHS to buy DVD or trading up from DVD to HD. Why pay extra for the same quality? I'm quite sure that my $5 HD DVD copy of "King Kong" or my free copy of "Bourne Identity" looks every bit as good as (maybe even a little better than) the blu version.
Buy blu for the new titles and keep HD DVD for the old titles. The hardware is cheap compared with the cost of the software.
fistofsouth 04-02-09, 04:35 AM I have about 120 HD DVDs (80+ purchased AFTER the demise of HD DVD) and I don't plan on switching out any of them. A few of the family favorites (Dazed and Confused, The Thing, Dune, et al...I know...I have a strange family) will be purchased on BD, but the other 120 will remian on HD DVD format. With a combo player and two backup HD DVD players I see no reason to upgrade the rest until Holographic Versatile Disc comes out.
I buy waaayyy more HD-DVDs than BluRay at much better prices!
pointless2 04-02-09, 07:30 AM Nope. I don't see how it would be an upgrade.
BZiggyZ 04-02-09, 07:44 AM No.
Dwayne1952 04-02-09, 10:52 AM I will keep buying HD DVD as long as I can but one day it will stop and go Blu-Ray
Blu-ray is not an "upgrade" when it comes to video quality. This is not like selling VHS to buy DVD or trading up from DVD to HD.
Yep, I'm trying like he!! to get rid of some of my standard dvds while people are interested.
cobolisdead 04-02-09, 12:08 PM Nope. I am keeping mine and acquiring more!
There must be a more stupid question for a survey. I'll get back to you when I think of it.
140 HD-DVDs, ALL purchased after the demise of the format. I've always considered retail pricing on movies to be much too high, so have rented. At ~ $5 per disc, now I'm buying!
webphilosopher 04-02-09, 01:42 PM Yep, I'm trying like he!! to get rid of some of my standard dvds while people are interested.
I find I can get at least $3 per DVD. That means the upgrade to a $5 HD DVD costs $2. Admittedly, I paid more for the HD DVD of "The Island," so I might ask $4 or $5 for the DVD. :)
Why are we HD DVD deadbeats such cheapskates? :o :D
webphilosopher 04-02-09, 01:49 PM There must be a more stupid question for a survey. I'll get back to you when I think of it.
140 HD-DVDs, ALL purchased after the demise of the format. I've always considered retail pricing on movies to be much too high, so have rented. At ~ $5 per disc, now I'm buying!
Heck, I bought a number of discs at Inetvideo for $3.99 or less. I need to get rid of these and erase the HD DVD sign on my forehead.
How about this stupid question: Since HD DVD is now a dead format, how many of you have buried your XA2 and discs in the landfill? You should be ashamed to have them in your home. :rolleyes:
I give credit to the OP. He is raising lots of excitement.
westgate 04-02-09, 01:56 PM No way, ho zay!
You need to get out more.
Can't, too many movies to watch. :p
However there is break time to eat, personal relartionship time with the wife, then back to movies.
PooperScooper 04-02-09, 04:22 PM why bother? it wouldn't be an "upgrade", unless there's a better transfer available on the blu-ray... Exactly. Or, if more/different extras on the BD for a few movies that I'd want all possible copies.
larry
I still think some don't want movie cases of two different colors sitting on their shelves. Why? is the question. BTW, no.
ti-triodes 04-02-09, 06:59 PM 95% NO so far. Maybe you should have posted this poll in the Blu forum if you were looking for a different answer.
I also see no reason to upgrade if PQ is the same. And after 2 vodkas I can't tell the difference between TrueHD and Dolby Digital anyway!:D
Quentin2 04-02-09, 07:00 PM Nope, I'm hanging on to my HD DVDs and still buying here and there when I see one I want at a good price. I pretty much have what I want now, maybe 5 or 10 more.
webphilosopher 04-02-09, 10:01 PM 95% NO so far. Maybe you should have posted this poll in the Blu forum if you were looking for a different answer.
I also see no reason to upgrade if PQ is the same. And after 2 vodkas I can't tell the difference between TrueHD and Dolby Digital anyway!:D
After two vodkas, I can't tell the difference between HD and VHS.
There will be instances where studios improve upon the video and audio.
Then it will be tempting to go with the BD version.
For example, I suspect that some of the Criterion BD titles will be amazing.
vamovie 04-03-09, 09:41 AM iam converting my hddvd collection to bluray
why we need to buy the same movie twice and three times
IF hddvd quality is lesser than bluray ya understandable
webdev511 04-03-09, 10:35 AM I'll convert FROM HD DVD to another format that, depending on when the conversion happens might be Blu-Ray, when one of the two happens.
a) A single HD DVD becomes damaged and unwatchable, and it's one that I've watched more than twice.
b) All five of my HD DVD playback devices die, but even then it will be on a title by title basis.
ilovejedd 04-03-09, 11:51 AM I actually just started my HD DVD collection. I was hunting for Heroes on Blu-ray. Cheapest I found it was $67 on Amazon. Since Amazon displays similar items, it also showed the HD DVD version with lowest price at $9.99. Checked out the link and I ended up buying the HD DVD version for $12.99 from traderbora (free shipping with Prime). Also bought a Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive from Newegg. I've been meaning to for a while so I can rip my Blu-ray collection to a 12TB file server but I was waiting until the LG's reached the $100 mark.
Checked out Fry's today and they have the Xbox 360 HD DVD+Harry Potter bundle for $59.99 so I bought that, too. I plan on buying some more HD-DVDs. Seems kind of a no-brainer considering you can buy them for cheaper than DVDs. The Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive should help me greatly when I'm ripping multiple HD-DVD discs. :)
As silly as it may seem, to this day I can't stand the obnoxious blu-ray logo, and the BLU cases! If they were a midnight blue, I could deal, but the bright blue color is over the top and takes away from the disc art.
Eventually I will put all my blu-ray movies in Black cases, and keep my HD-DVD's in their sharp looking red cases, as a reminder of what was an exciting format war. And yes, I will forever say that HD-DVD was and still is a better and more stable format.
ti-triodes 04-03-09, 06:40 PM As silly as it may seem, to this day I can't stand the obnoxious blu-ray logo, and the BLU cases! If they were a midnight blue, I could deal, but the bright blue color is over the top and takes away from the disc art.
Eventually I will put all my blu-ray movies in Black cases, and keep my HD-DVD's in their sharp looking red cases, as a reminder of what was an exciting format war. And yes, I will forever say that HD-DVD was and still is a better and more stable format.
Agreed! The bright blu is annoying for some reason. I'm waiting for someone to sell HD size cases in black so I can spend some more money on this hobby!
Some have been manufactured- the extras disc for the Ultimate Matrix set is black.
Sssshhhh, don't let the movie companies hear you guys they just might rerelease all these blu rays in midnight blu cases;):rolleyes:...
It doesn't sound that bad though:)
DJoel
Quentin2 04-03-09, 07:46 PM I actually just started my HD DVD collection. I was hunting for Heroes on Blu-ray. Cheapest I found it was $67 on Amazon. Since Amazon displays similar items, it also showed the HD DVD version with lowest price at $9.99. Checked out the link and I ended up buying the HD DVD version for $12.99 from traderbora (free shipping with Prime). Also bought a Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive from Newegg. I've been meaning to for a while so I can rip my Blu-ray collection to a 12TB file server but I was waiting until the LG's reached the $100 mark.
Checked out Fry's today and they have the Xbox 360 HD DVD+Harry Potter bundle for $59.99 so I bought that, too. I plan on buying some more HD-DVDs. Seems kind of a no-brainer considering you can buy them for cheaper than DVDs. The Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive should help me greatly when I'm ripping multiple HD-DVD discs. :)
Now that's the way to go purple! :D
eapleitez 04-03-09, 09:02 PM Heck no! It most likely will be zero to marginal improvement, and in several cases, the HD DVD version is superior. That's a waste of money.
I'm actually in the process of making my HD-DVD collection bigger and have not taken the "Blu" plunge just yet.
I know I will eventually when the theater is done, but I still will not feel the need to replace the Red with the Blu.
Regards,
RTROSE
Nah.
If one of my must-have HD DVDs dies, well, then I might buy it on Blu.
Unless I can find it cheap on HD DVD. :)
I am renting Blu's (Netflix/MG) and buying HDDVD's, over 200 now. Always choose the HDDVD version when I had a choice due to cheaper price, and I like the player (A20) better (than the Sony S1).
R Harkness 04-05-09, 08:37 PM About 50 of my HD DVD titles are on Blu Ray now. I am patiently waiting for deals on eBay and Amazon for used copies for the BD.
Who is upgrading to the Blu Ray copies after purchasing the HD DVDs?
Any movies you are keeping on HD DVD for a reason?
So you purchased HD DVDs. Presumably you have an HD DVD player.
Now you are spending more money to get the same movies in Blu Ray that you already own on HD DVD.
And the gain there is....?
hernanu 04-05-09, 09:18 PM Keeping mine, matter of fact, I'm nearing 100 HD disks. I'm switching to a binder storage mechanism, since the cases are taking too much space.
I bought a copy of the bluray of "Chronicles of Riddick" for a friend for $25, and I realized that I could easily have bought five HD-DVD's for the same. Same or better quality - no brainer.
valleybacker 04-05-09, 09:25 PM it's pointless and more expensive. I'm actually still buying more hd dvds now. So cheap rightnow.
SierraMikeBravo 04-05-09, 11:19 PM Nope! Just bought 4 HD-DVD titles today. I am even....gasp :eek:...still buying DVD! Yep, you heard it folks...DVD! I gotta tell ya, some of the Superbit DVD's give any HD disc a run for its money especially when played on a beautiful Denon 3930ci Realta equipped DVD player. If I can get that level of quality for $5, I'm gonna take that over the Blu. Don't get me wrong, I was lucky enough to be chosen for the Oppo BD-83 EAP, and it is a phenomenal player, but like the others, I only grab newer movies on Blu. I have no intention of replacing older DVD or HD-DVD's with Blu. I just bought The Mask of Zorro on Superbit today. That DTS track...like the Superbit version of 5th Element...is incredible. Easily rivals, if not exceeds, what many HD (Blu or red) discs produce. The bottom line is, I will take a disc, regardless of format, that was produced with real tender loving care over a mediocre disc (and yes, there are some HD movies that are eh, ok). One of the reasons I miss laserdisc. The box sets were often produced with that extra special touch that is hard to find these days.
I have over 200 HD-DVD's but I can't say that I have any REAL blockbusters that I would consider replacing on Blu. I haven't even watched my copies of the Matrix, and the only series I would like to hear in uncompressed sound is the Bourne Trilogy, and I'm not investing $70 for Blu for that alone. I have toyed with replacing Transformers for the $15 or so it costs, but haven't taken the plunge.
It's not like anything totally must have was released on HD-DVD that I would have to re-buy. Starwars, LoTR, Godfather, Braveheart, etc. Now if those had been released on HD I might consider replacing them with Blu...
a3willia 04-06-09, 03:13 AM I'm in the minority here. I took the blu plunge in Dec. 2007, just when it became apparent that the end was near. My Samsung 1400 purchase was just at the time that the latest Harry potter came out. I had originally purchased it in HD DVD, and took it back to pick up the blu ray, along with all the other Potters in blu ray. I have slowly replaced many titles since then in blu. What you have to remember is that most of the movies we are talking about in the HD DVD format are older titles that can be picked up cheaply used in blu, so the cost of swapping them out is next to nothing, especially if you sell the HD DVD. Universal was the lone holdout for HD DVD, so those are more slowly coming to blu - (still waiting on Children of Men!) I'll replace those as well, but probably in a year or so from now when they're going for $5-$8 used like I pay now. I like one format.
dysfunction26 04-06-09, 03:18 AM I will enjoy $5 HD DVD's until they run out. I own about 10 BR's, 3 were gifts. I own over 100 HD DVD's. I will buy another HD DVD player before replacing the discs with BR.
alfbinet 04-06-09, 12:00 PM I have about 120 HD DVDs (80+ purchased AFTER the demise of HD DVD) and I don't plan on switching out any of them. A few of the family favorites (Dazed and Confused, The Thing, Dune, et al...I know...I have a strange family) will be purchased on BD, but the other 120 will remian on HD DVD format. With a combo player and two backup HD DVD players I see no reason to upgrade the rest until Holographic Versatile Disc comes out.
You may want to hang onto your HD DVD copy of "The Thing". It seems that they did something with this title for BD release that none too many people are happy about. I believe Xylon would know more about this issue. I think there are a few more titles that the consensus is they look better in HD DVD then they do in blu.
MichaelZ 04-07-09, 03:04 PM I was thinking of buying a blu-ray player and I was planning on renting via netflix but they increased the monthly fee if you are renting blu so I am back to waiting. With the economy like it is I can wait. When blu discs are $5 in the walmart bins I might jump in!
With the economy like it is I can wait. When blu discs are $5 in the walmart bins I might jump in!
And you'll find a family of four forced to live there with the economy like it is.
I was thinking of buying a blu-ray player and I was planning on renting via netflix but they increased the monthly fee if you are renting blu so I am back to waiting. With the economy like it is I can wait. When blu discs are $5 in the walmart bins I might jump in!
Try Blockbuster. I have a GREAT experience with them.
JJJschmitt 04-07-09, 10:50 PM I made my choice but my choice lost so I'm sticking with DVD for now plus the HD-dvd's I already own. I'll wait until I see what the next new hot thing is and hopefully there won't be a format war. Ifso, I'll just continue with DVD's.
I sold all of my HD DVD titles and replace them on blu-ray still have to wait for most of them to come out on Blu-ray.
I sold all of my HD DVD titles and replace them on blu-ray still have to wait for most of them to come out on Blu-ray.
You funny guy.
About 50 of my HD DVD titles are on Blu Ray now. I am patiently waiting for deals on eBay and Amazon for used copies for the BD.
Who is upgrading to the Blu Ray copies after purchasing the HD DVDs?
Any movies you are keeping on HD DVD for a reason?
Can you explain why do you wait to buy used copies of BD on eBay?
I sold all of my HD DVD titles and replace them on blu-ray still have to wait for most of them to come out on Blu-ray.
So you sold your HD-DVD movies for $1 on eBay so that you can buy exactly the same movies from the same video master on BD for $30. Very smart!
Try Blockbuster. I have a GREAT experience with them.
Blockbuster is in serious debt crisis and might go out of business soon.
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090407/tc_pcworld/blockbustermayshutretailstores_1
Blockbuster is in serious debt crisis and might go out of business soon.
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090407/tc_pcworld/blockbustermayshutretailstores_1
I know... it's a big bummer... but in the meantime they are serving me VERY well.
As of today, April 8th, 92.68% answered resoundingly NO so please close this thread. It was poor attempt to lure people to waste money on Blu.
As of today, April 8th, 92.68% answered resoundingly NO so please close this thread. It was poor attempt to lure people to waste money on Blu.
Why close an active, spirited exchange? Let the mods decide. Besides, I don't think that was the motivation. Makes no sense. Who would need to win customers over to a living format from a dead format?
eapleitez 04-09-09, 12:50 AM As of today, April 8th, 92.68% answered resoundingly NO so please close this thread. It was poor attempt to lure people to waste money on Blu.
C'mon now, no need for the censor police. Just because we mostly strongly disagree with the OP, doesn't mean we should end the discussion. For what? Does the topic threaten you?
By the way, buying blu is not a waste of money.
So you sold your HD-DVD movies for $1 on eBay so that you can buy exactly the same movies from the same video master on BD for $30. Very smart!
You can do any think when your RICH why keep your movies on the wrong format you can not take your money with you when you die.
And do not get smart that died when HD DVD died OK, Are you still crying about HD-DVD go out and Buy a blu-ray player or have you got one all ready.
why keep your movies on the wrong format
Wrong fromat????? By that logic then everyone should toss every VHS tape or standard dvd they may still have in their collection. Eventually something will replace blu discs as well so by that logic we're already behind and need to be getting rid of them.
There will always be the next great thing and most who are in this hobby do make upgrades of some sort whether it is their displays, audio equipment, or playing media. Bottom line is if it works and provides satisfaction it is not wrong. And yes I have 3 HD machines and 2 blu-ray players.
mondaycurse 04-09-09, 10:19 AM You can do any think when your RICH why keep your movies on the wrong format you can not take your money with you when you die.
And do not get smart that died when HD DVD died OK, Are you still crying about HD-DVD go out and Buy a blu-ray player or have you got one all ready.
Sorry, but you sound like a huge snob. There is no "right format," only formats that work. HD DVD works and I feel like I'm in a store with great "going out of business" sales.
webphilosopher 04-09-09, 10:26 AM Wrong fromat?????
I think by "wrong format" he means the one that is not socially approved. The media and the equipment work properly, but there is sometimes social pressure to get rid of all association with a "losing format."
People used to laugh at me for not replacing my vinyl with CD's. Financially, that would have been extremely costly, and, in many cases, would have yielded inferior results, since good vinyl has depth and presence that CD's have trouble achieving.
But I guess that if one's friends are constantly teasing him or her about holding onto a losing format, then social pressure might make a person exchange red for blu. Of course, one could always put the red discs in blu cases to avoid any embarrassment.
Personally, I am quite happy with saving money and enjoying HD DVD. But to each his own.
I think by "wrong format" he means the one that is not socially approved. The media and the equipment work properly, but there is sometimes social pressure to get rid of all association with a "losing format."
To quote Rodney Dangerfield "Tough crowd, tough crowd". I don't think I've faced that problem yet. Of course since I'm near 50 years of age I haven't had the pleasure of hanging out with 13 year olds since about 35 years ago. :D
Shoot the majority of folks I know are still having a hard time understanding the need to add a nice surround system to the new flat screen they bought.
webphilosopher 04-09-09, 10:48 AM To quote Rodney Dangerfield "Tough crowd, tough crowd". I don't think I've faced that problem yet. Of course since I'm near 50 years of age I haven't had the pleasure of hanging out with 13 year olds since about 35 years ago. :D
Shoot the majority of folks I know are still having a hard time understanding the need to add a nice surround system to the new flat screen they bought.
Of course, after we reach a certain age, we couldn't care less what people think. :)
Of course, after we reach a certain age, we could care less what people think. :)
Could not.
Sorry, but you sound like a huge snob. There is no "right format," only formats that work. HD DVD works and I feel like I'm in a store with great "going out of business" sales.
As I was replacing all of my HD DVD collection the Reason was Universal has put a New Sound Format on all on there disc now that we have 50g to a disc then 30g to a disc theres room to put DTS-HD-MA lossless sound at it top bit rates vs Dolby Plus, I replaced King Kong extended cut that HD-DVD does not have that version.
And this SURVEY Was what did people do with there HD DVD collection and I sold them all, I do not care what you did with yours, You have no right to tell people what they should of done with them.
As I was replacing all of my HD DVD collection the Reason was Universal has put a New Sound Format on all on there disc now that we have 50g to a disc then 30g to a disc theres room to put DTS-HD-MA lossless sound at it top bit rates vs Dolby Plus, I replaced King Kong extended cut that HD-DVD does not have that version.
Indeed, some Blu-ray disks have better audio encodes. And, there are some great looking Blu titles too. But beware of trading a great LOOKING HD-DVD releases in on an EE'd and NR'd Blu version. It happens more than a little. Not that HD-DVD didn't have some aweful looking releases too, Tremors being one of the worst. But there are quite a few instances where the HD-DVD version looks better and I'd sure keep those!
Indeed, some Blu-ray disks have better audio encodes. And, there are some great looking Blu titles too. But beware of trading a great LOOKING HD-DVD releases in on an EE'd and NR'd Blu version. It happens more than a little. Not that HD-DVD didn't have some aweful looking releases too, Tremors being one of the worst. But there are quite a few instances where the HD-DVD version looks better and I'd sure keep those!
You right On the other hand I had U571 on HD-DVD and bought it on Blu-ray and the Blu-ray version is better picture quietly with using EE and NR so it depends on the movie.
Still crying about HD DVD have a good day too. Have a look in my page I have a 12ft 2.35.1 screen and a 12 seater cinema.
Nobody cries when buying movies for $3 to $5. Of course that will end. But.. nobody here is crying for sure.
bruceames 04-09-09, 09:51 PM As silly as it may seem, to this day I can't stand the obnoxious blu-ray logo, and the BLU cases! If they were a midnight blue, I could deal, but the bright blue color is over the top and takes away from the disc art.
Eventually I will put all my blu-ray movies in Black cases, and keep my HD-DVD's in their sharp looking red cases, as a reminder of what was an exciting format war. And yes, I will forever say that HD-DVD was and still is a better and more stable format.
I put my Blu movies in the red cases. Look great and they play just fine in my LG BH200 HD DVD player. :cool:
webphilosopher 04-10-09, 08:17 AM I put my Blu movies in the red cases. Look great and they play just fine in my LG BH200 HD DVD player. :cool:
LOL... We need a new thread: "How many of you are upgrading your blue cases to red?"
It is all subjective, of course; but I like the red better than the blue myself. Remember the Luscher color test?
tcfiero 04-10-09, 10:44 AM I put my Blu movies in the red cases. Look great and they play just fine in my LG BH200 HD DVD player. :cool:
Bruce, I like you idea. Now if I can only find an inexpensive BH200. I have plenty of extra red cases.
bruceames 04-10-09, 11:03 AM Bruce, I like you idea. Now if I can only find an inexpensive BH200. I have plenty of extra red cases.
I wouldn't worry about confusing colors if you keep the formats stored separately. Even if not, you'll (obviously) know which format it is by looking at the cover. I just couldn't stand the loud toylike blue color, since it seemed that was more noticable than the actual spine artwork. If they sold black cases I would use those, but the red cases work fine. I actually use the XA2 for HD DVD and the LG BH200 or Samsung BH-P1200 for Blu-ray.
tcfiero 04-10-09, 11:36 AM Bruce, these look like black hi-def cases similar to the extras case in Ultimate Matrix. They say they are for Blu-ray and PS3, so they might be the same size as the European cases.
http://www.meritline.com/single-black-blu-ray-dvd-case-clips-and-full-sleeve---p-29492.aspx
bruceames 04-10-09, 03:09 PM Bruce, these look like black hi-def cases similar to the extras case in Ultimate Matrix. They say they are for Blu-ray and PS3, so they might be the same size as the European cases.
http://www.meritline.com/single-black-blu-ray-dvd-case-clips-and-full-sleeve---p-29492.aspx
Thanks for the link. It looks like the way to go and they're pretty cheap, too. :)
twinsen123 04-10-09, 03:18 PM I try to check the forums to see if I'm going to be losing anything (or gaining any) with a purchase on BD. Most titles (Mummy, Bourne, Fast & Furious) don't have me enticed to give up my HD DVD. I have a dual player and a dedicated player so if I need to re-buy, why not do digital or subscribe later to a library a la Netflix.
SSEiYah 04-10-09, 06:39 PM I picked up the vast majority of my HD DVDs for 5.33 shipped each with the blockbuster things (about 80 of them). I can sell nearly all of my HD DVDs for a minimum of $3.00, some of them fetch as much as $10.00 like Amateurs or King of California.
I've decided to not spend over $7.00 to swap out the movie to blu. It costs $6.00 to rent a blu ray anyway. Honestly I really would rather have one format over having two, at least the vast majority of my titles one format to make life simpler. Part of the problem as well is I'm trying to free up an HDMI port on my TV as well as with all my gear I am completely maxed out and have to run my HTPC on VGA.
Here is the list if anyone cares, it shows the new price then used price, then the HD DVD estimated value. I'm expecting I will have about half of them purchased and just keep the rest on blu ray until the prices come down to the point of not having to pay more than $7.00 extra for the title.
MOVIE TITLE - NEW PRICE/USED PRICE HD DVD VALUE
Tomb Raider - $14.99/$11.99 $3.00 -- Bought
Face/Off - $19.99/$11.45 $2.99
Kingdom - $19.99/$11.99 $2.87 -- Bought
Shooter - $14.99/$10.96 $3.00 -- Bought
Eastern Promises - $17.99/$10.96 $2.85
Next - $17.99/$10.75 $3.00 -- Bought
GoodFellas - $16.99/$10.61 $2.00
Nacho Libre - $14.99/$10.49 $3.00
Training Day - $17.99/$9.80 $2.00
Italian Job - $14.99/$9.50 $1.00 -- Bought
Blood Diamond - $17.99/$8.63 $1.00
Syriana - $22.99/$6.82 $3.00
Swordfish - $13.49/$6.49 $3.00 -- Bought
Fugitive - $13.49/$6.00 $2.50 -- Bought
Firewall - $18.99/$5.62 $2.99 -- Bought
300 - $17.49/$12.92 $4.00 - Bought
40 Year Old Virgin - $14.99/$12.45 $2.85
Amateurs - $13.99/$16.85 *** $10.78 -- Bought
American Gangster - $16.99/$13.11 $5.00 -- Bought
Babel - $14.49/$8.50 $4.00
Beerfest - $13.49/$10.09 $5.00
Brave One - $19.49/$5.55 $6.00
Casino - $17.99/$15.45 $5.00
Dawn of the Dead - $41.99 (3 Pack) $4.00
Disturbia - $19.99/$9.25 $4.00
Departed - $17.49/$10.23 $4.00
Eyes Wide Shut - $19.99/$16.87 $10.00
Four Brothers - $17.99/$12.50 $2.00
King of California - $13.99/$9.68 $10.00
King Kong - $19.99/$15.99 $2.00
Knocked Up - $16.49/$11.47 $7.00
Land of the Dead - $41.99 (3 Pack) $5.00
Lucky Sleven - $13.99/$10.01 $6.00
Million Dollar Baby - $17.99/$13.82 $3.00
Mission Impossible - $14.99/$9.85 $3.00
Mission Impossible 2 - $14.99/$7.49 $4.00
Mission Impossible 3 - $14.99/$13.21 $3.00
Old School - $14.99/$14.99 $3.00
Sleepy Hollow - $16.49/$12.89 $3.00
U-571 - $16.49/$12.99 $3.00
World Trade Center - $16.49/$13.20 $2.00
Zodiac - $17.99/$17.99 $7.00
Part of the problem as well is I'm trying to free up an HDMI port on my TV as well as with all my gear I am completely maxed out and have to run my HTPC on VGA.
A 2 -> 1 HDMI switch can be had pretty cheap (< $50?) and, because it's in the digital domain, even cheap delivers 100% of the signal quality. It might give you some flexibility.
I went through enough soul searching deciding whether or not to replace DVD's with HD-DVD or BR so I would very unlikely replace HD-DVD with BR. But rather than minimise the risk of hardware failure by stocking up on an inventory of HD-DVD players, I am slowly backing up all my HD-DVD's to a server where I can watch them from there, even if my A3 dies.
PooperScooper 04-12-09, 10:22 AM Any more bickering and the thread gets locked.
larry
Any more bickering and the thread gets locked.
larry
Frankly, I'm surprised this thread has gone this long.
TrevorS 04-16-09, 12:08 AM About 50 of my HD DVD titles are on Blu Ray now. I am patiently waiting for deals on eBay and Amazon for used copies for the BD.
Who is upgrading to the Blu Ray copies after purchasing the HD DVDs?
Any movies you are keeping on HD DVD for a reason?
Sure are, I already own them on hd dvd, why buy the BD (unless there's a compelling performance reason)?
SlaughterX 04-23-09, 07:02 PM Well thanks to a certain new program I am trading in some of my WB HD-DVDs, but I don't think I am going to bother doing all of them.
rdunnill 04-23-09, 09:12 PM Nope. I am keeping mine and acquiring more!Same here.
rdunnill 04-23-09, 09:20 PM Nope! Just bought 4 HD-DVD titles today. I am even....gasp :eek:...still buying DVD! Yep, you heard it folks...DVD! Why wouldn't folks still be buying SDVD, seeing as many title are digitally exclusive to that format?
I'd rather have "Zabriskie Point" on SDVD than any Blu-ray popcorn-muncher dreck, no matter how good the resolution and sound was.
Oh, and Amazon notified me today that my six closeout HD-DVDs shipped. Less than $30 postpaid, only slightly more than six two-night rentals cost here.
I'd rather have "Zabriskie Point" on SDVD than any Blu-ray popcorn-muncher dreck, no matter how good the resolution and sound was.
Your statement makes it sound like you believe that Blu-ray automatically = "popcorn-muncher dreck" regardless of quality or content. But you don't elaborate on what it is about Blu-ray you dislike so much. What's not to like?
TrevorS 04-24-09, 08:39 PM My interpretation is just because a title is on BD (and perhaps at a low price), doesn't mean it's worth buying. Whereas, there are many titles on SD DVD that are not on BD and are definitely worth buying.
rdunnill 04-24-09, 10:07 PM Your statement makes it sound like you believe that Blu-ray automatically = "popcorn-muncher dreck" regardless of quality or content. But you don't elaborate on what it is about Blu-ray you dislike so much. What's not to like?Someone asked why anyone would be buying SDVD now, and that was my answer: that titles of interest are often released exclusively to SDVD.
What's not to like is that most of the titles seem to be aimed at the PS3 demographic (18-to-30-year-old males). I accept that that's where the money is to be made, but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it. And I genuinely believe the title mix would have been more balanced had HD-DVD won the format war.
With the downturn, I have been very careful with my purchases, but I try and buy Blu-ray wherever possible (if the title I want is available).
Someone asked why anyone would be buying SDVD now, and that was my answer: that titles of interest are often released exclusively to SDVD.
What's not to like is that most of the titles seem to be aimed at the PS3 demographic (18-to-30-year-old males). I accept that that's where the money is to be made, but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it. And I genuinely believe the title mix would have been more balanced had HD-DVD won the format war.
With the downturn, I have been very careful with my purchases, but I try and buy Blu-ray wherever possible (if the title I want is available).
I get it. I have to agree, though there are some fun old Blu's out there. But they are catering more to that PS3 customer. But remember, HD-DVD wasn't a bed of roses either. Nacho Libre, anyone? :)
rdunnill 04-24-09, 10:27 PM I get it. I have to agree, though there are some fun old Blu's out there.
Yep, and I've bought some of them, including PotA and Dirty Harry box sets, Battle of the Bulge, the Bond titles, and How the West Was Won. I confess to having some PS3-type titles, too, like the Starship Troopers trilogy. For that matter, I'll confess to having a PS3. :)
webphilosopher 04-24-09, 10:32 PM My interpretation is just because a title is on BD (and perhaps at a low price), doesn't mean it's worth buying. Whereas, there are many titles on SD DVD that are not on BD and are definitely worth buying.
Roughly one hundred thousand titles have appeared on DVD. At least Netflix claims to have about that many. How many titles have appeared on Blu-ray?
Many thoroughly enjoyable movies are not and may never be published in high definition.
Yep, and I've bought some of them, including PotA and Dirty Harry box sets, Battle of the Bulge, the Bond titles, and How the West Was Won. I confess to having some PS3-type titles, too, like the Starship Troopers trilogy. For that matter, I'll confess to having a PS3. :)
Cool Hand Luke was fun too as well as 3 days of the Condor. I'm watching Magnum Force tonight. There's enough Blu stuff to make me happy. I've not bitten the PS3 bug yet though... not a big gamer.
eizenga13 04-25-09, 01:08 AM Anyone know where to get a comprehensive list of movies that would qualify as an upgrade?
So far here is what I see is WELL worth the cost of a cover and a few bucks:
1. Casablanca (you get the UCE for 10 bucks!)
2. Matrix (you get the Ultimate Edition for the Trilogy Edition)
3. Polar Express (The Blu-Ray is the "3D Version, my nephew LOVES this movie, I think he would be tickled pink to see the 3D version when he comes to visit in July... And yes I know it is a Christmas movie... He could care less he will watch it all year long... I suffer... It is worth it) ;)
SO far that is all I know... My copy of Superman Returns has always stalled out on me so PERHAPS I will do that one as well...
Current list of DOWNGRADES:
1. Harry Potter (you lost the PIP funtionality... BUT it can be an upgrade because I want all those movies on the same format... That means Blu-ray :(
2. Bonnie and Clyde (The HD DVD is highly saught after)
3.
BUT...
Which titles have a better audio/video presentation that is worth the few dollars and a cover art upgrade (I change out 99% of my covers with custom anyway)
TrevorS 04-25-09, 01:41 AM Current list of DOWNGRADES:
1. Harry Potter (you lost the PIP funtionality... BUT it can be an upgrade because I want all those movies on the same format... That means Blu-ray :(
2. Bonnie and Clyde (The HD DVD is highly saught after)
3.
BUT...
Which titles have a better audio/video presentation that is worth the few dollars and a cover art upgrade (I change out 99% of my covers with custom anyway)
Chuckle, chuckle :)! Harry Potter is a funny one for me! I started by buying the HD DVD boxset, but then decided I didn't want to have to fuss with the box set disc "books" and so I picked up the standard HD DVD singles, thereby preserving the trunk and making access more convenient! However, shortly after it became apparent future releases would only be available on BD, so I picked up the BD singles as well (all well discounted December'07/January'08, mind you :))! So now, it really isn't an issue. I'm all set for future releases on BD, plus I have the HP "trunk" covered :)!
eitakura 04-25-09, 01:44 PM I have 150 HD DVD's or so, so have many eligible for upgrading. But decided to only trade in 4:
Casablanca: Classic movie, can pass along HD-DVD or Blu copy to someone down the line who will love it. Plus, the UE upgrade for $4.95 seemed like a no-brainer
Ultimate Matrix: Never seen the Animatrix in SD or HD, but why not get it in HD. Plus, all the movies are eye-candy anyway, so again, I imagine I can pass this along to a happy friend down the line
Planet Earth: Classic documentary. 2nd copy for $9.95 as gift seemed like a good idea to me.
Harry Potter and Order of Phoenix: BD extras in HD were the incentive. Once I was in for paying the $6.95 shipping, the incremental cost of adding more movies was pretty low.
Could have traded a lot more and sold the brand new BD's for more than $4.95 I'm sure, but just didn't seem worth it overall.
SlaughterX 04-25-09, 01:46 PM Anyone know where to get a comprehensive list of movies that would qualify as an upgrade?
So far here is what I see is WELL worth the cost of a cover and a few bucks:
1. Casablanca (you get the UCE for 10 bucks!)
2. Matrix (you get the Ultimate Edition for the Trilogy Edition)
3. Polar Express (The Blu-Ray is the "3D Version, my nephew LOVES this movie, I think he would be tickled pink to see the 3D version when he comes to visit in July... And yes I know it is a Christmas movie... He could care less he will watch it all year long... I suffer... It is worth it) ;)
SO far that is all I know... My copy of Superman Returns has always stalled out on me so PERHAPS I will do that one as well...
Current list of DOWNGRADES:
1. Harry Potter (you lost the PIP funtionality... BUT it can be an upgrade because I want all those movies on the same format... That means Blu-ray :(
2. Bonnie and Clyde (The HD DVD is highly saught after)
3.
BUT...
Which titles have a better audio/video presentation that is worth the few dollars and a cover art upgrade (I change out 99% of my covers with custom anyway)
The Sopranos Season Six Part I has an uncompressed PCM soundtrack on Blu-Ray, while the HD-DVD version is compressed. Other than having The Animatrix in HD, all of the other old WB titles on HD-DVD are equal to their Blu-Ray counterpart or better.
Reginald Trent 04-25-09, 01:51 PM NO, why should I bother when I already have a perfectly good functioning Hi Def copy which most likely is superior? Warner can go take a hike!
TrevorS 04-27-09, 09:11 PM The Sopranos Season Six Part I has an uncompressed PCM soundtrack on Blu-Ray, while the HD-DVD version is compressed. Other than having The Animatrix in HD, all of the other old WB titles on HD-DVD are equal to their Blu-Ray counterpart or better.
Whether or not it's compressed doesn't mean anything (despite Sony's earlier emphasis - called marketing), the question is whether the compression is lossless. Of course, the second question is if the original soundtrack actually benefits from lossless :)! Most blu types seem to prefer to duck that question!
tcfiero 04-28-09, 12:19 AM Current list of DOWNGRADES:
1. Harry Potter (you lost the PIP funtionality... BUT it can be an upgrade because I want all those movies on the same format... That means Blu-ray :(
2. Bonnie and Clyde (The HD DVD is highly saught after)
3.
BUT...
I don't see where Bonnie and Clyde would be a downgrade as you get the exact same A/V experience. The only difference is the Digibook, which you get to keep on both. Just because it is sought after does not make it a downgrade.
On the Harry Potter's you loose IME on both Goblet of Fire and OOP, but you gain some special features in HD on OOP. Get the English import of OOP on HD and you get both the IME and HD special features.
Electone 04-28-09, 08:41 AM Heck no. I can't stop buying HD DVDs. Just picked up 'A Clockwork Orange', 'Full Metal Jacket SE' and 'The Fugitive'.
rdunnill 04-28-09, 04:10 PM NO, why should I bother when I already have a perfectly good functioning Hi Def copy which most likely is superior? Warner can go take a hike!My HD-DVDs will function for several years, by which time Blu-ray software prices will have dropped. If at that time I feel the need to replace the HD-DVDs, I'll do so then. Not now.
Victor Bergman 04-29-09, 10:59 AM Well, if and when Warner Canada gets around to letting us in on the deal on this side of the border, I will trade some in. I have 18 of the titles currently listed. I could see myself trading up about half of them. The rest I don't want to pay more money for, just for the sake of BD copies. Part of the reason I stuck with HD DVD were the great deals in the past year. The money I saved has more than paid for the cost of my two Samsung UP-5000 players.
TrevorS 04-29-09, 01:52 PM Received a "like new" used copy of Polar Express HD DVD two days ago from an Amazon Seller and my RCA HDV-5000 kept bailing out at the same early point (even with multiple cleanings). I was wondering if I should consider a swap on that, when holding ot up in bright light I noticed several very light scratches, including two that were near the hub and tangential to the radius -- so much for "like new" :(. Fortunately, two hits of heavy radial polishing with plastic polish solved the problem -- now plays perfectly. Sorry Warner, not this time :)! Unless the BD has more to offer, I still prefer the red.
(The only HD DVD so far that wouldn't play on either my RCA or my A2 was Gothika -- sealed from an Amazon Seller. Since multiple cleanings didn't work, I returned it and went Inetvideo BD, wasn't worth risking a second bad copy. That's my one and only format switch to date.)
Received a "like new" used copy of Polar Express HD DVD two days ago from an Amazon Seller and my RCA HDV-5000 kept bailing out at the same early point (even with multiple cleanings). I was wondering if I should consider a swap on that, when holding ot up in bright light I noticed several very light scratches, including two that were near the hub and tangential to the radius -- so much for "like new" :(. Fortunately, two hits of heavy radial polishing with plastic polish solved the problem -- now plays perfectly. Sorry Warner, not this time :)! Unless the BD has more to offer, I still prefer the red.
(The only HD DVD so far that wouldn't play on either my RCA or my A2 was Gothika -- sealed from an Amazon Seller. Since multiple cleanings didn't work, I returned it and went Inetvideo BD, wasn't worth risking a second bad copy. That's my one and only format switch to date.)
What do you use to clean your HD-DVD's. I have one disc that could possibly benefit from a heavy polish. I've tried the Aawn approach but that did not "cut it".
Regards,
RTROSE
TrevorS 04-30-09, 09:42 PM What do you use to clean your HD-DVD's. I have one disc that could possibly benefit from a heavy polish. I've tried the Aawn approach but that did not "cut it".
Regards,
RTROSE
I use Novus Plastic Polish No. 2 "Fine Scratch Remover". It comes in an 8 oz bottle and is made by Novus Inc. Minneapolis, MN 55438. If you want to try it, call this number to locate the nearest distributor: 1-800-548-6872
It's really intended for plastics, but if you're determined, it usually helps with DVD, CD, and LD acrylics. Not necessarily removing the scratches on discs, but softening the edges enough so that the laser pickup can do its job.
lakerstyle 05-01-09, 12:51 AM Really good points...in a couple years most of these movies will be in the blu-ray baragin bin next to their dvd counterparts. Other than the box sets, I really don't see a point other than buying BD disks to be given as gifts to others
stretch35 05-01-09, 02:47 AM still too many unopened dvds and laserdiscs, not to mention unopened hd dvd to worry about blu "upgrades".
iceperson 05-18-09, 05:24 PM This thread is funny. I for one am trying to get rid of the 20-30 HD-DVDs I have left (mainly because 2 of the 3 HD DVD players I own have stopped functioning and I have no intention of replacing them.)
(mainly because 2 of the 3 HD DVD players I own have stopped functioning.)
Wow... that's not very good reliability. I'm surprised to hear this. 3 of the 3 HD DVD players I own still function.
TrevorS 05-18-09, 05:41 PM This thread is funny. I for one am trying to get rid of the 20-30 HD-DVDs I have left (mainly because 2 of the 3 HD DVD players I own have stopped functioning and I have no intention of replacing them.)
Bummer! I've four, but haven't had any problems yet. I usually use non-HD players for standard DVD, goal being to minimize wear and tear. My RCA HDV-5000 remains my primary HD DVD player, though I tend to play more SD DVD and BD than HD DVD.
I sense there are 4 potential strategies in play here.
1. Accept the fate that HD-DVD has lost the war so to speak, sell them all and replace them with BR
2. Again accept the fact that BR has won but rather than replace titles, keep using the HD-DVD player till it dies and if a cheap replacement can't be found, replace the titles that you want to
3. Don't accept it - buy a bunch of backup players
4. Keep the HD-DVD's and back them up to a server and keep on playing them till the player dies. There is always the server copy to go back to (does require a PC and a media player)
I have chosen 4. Lowest cost (the HD-DVD/BD drive cost me $80) and I already had the PC infrastructure in place
I sense there are 4 potential strategies in play here.
1. Accept the fate that HD-DVD has lost the war so to speak, sell them all and replace them with BR
2. Again accept the fact that BR has won but rather than replace titles, keep using the HD-DVD player till it dies and if a cheap replacement can't be found, replace the titles that you want to
3. Don't accept it - buy a bunch of backup players
4. Keep the HD-DVD's and back them up to a server and keep on playing them till the player dies. There is always the server copy to go back to (does require a PC and a media player)
I have chosen 4. Lowest cost (the HD-DVD/BD drive cost me $80) and I already had the PC infrastructure in place
I chose option #2 since the software is so cheap, and bought a backup player for $70. I suppose when both players die I can go option #4. In conclusion, my option beat yours by $10 :D
hmurchison 05-18-09, 09:47 PM Hell no.
I won't even take advantage of Red2Blu because it makes little sense for me to pay five bucks to get the same thing.
Let's face it ....it's not hard to find HD DVD hardware. I figure over the lifetime of my HD DVD I'll have say 4 players and they'll be all I need.
Truth be told as soon as HDD are cheap I'm gonna rip these bytches anyways.
TrevorS 05-18-09, 10:46 PM I sense there are 4 potential strategies in play here.
1. Accept the fate that HD-DVD has lost the war so to speak, sell them all and replace them with BR
2. Again accept the fact that BR has won but rather than replace titles, keep using the HD-DVD player till it dies and if a cheap replacement can't be found, replace the titles that you want to
3. Don't accept it - buy a bunch of backup players
4. Keep the HD-DVD's and back them up to a server and keep on playing them till the player dies. There is always the server copy to go back to (does require a PC and a media player)
I have chosen 4. Lowest cost (the HD-DVD/BD drive cost me $80) and I already had the PC infrastructure in place
I consider your #3 totally bogus. The multiple player choice has nothing to do with BD one way or the other, it has everything to do with protecting my investment in HD DVD software!
Hell no.
I won't even take advantage of Red2Blu because it makes little sense for me to pay five bucks to get the same thing.
Let's face it ....it's not hard to find HD DVD hardware. I figure over the lifetime of my HD DVD I'll have say 4 players and they'll be all I need.
Truth be told as soon as HDD are cheap I'm gonna rip these bytches anyways.
"As soon as HDD are cheap" ??? Back in '94 1 terabyte cost $1M! Now it costs what? $80? I'd say it's cheap now! But then, I'm an old f@rt. :)
I consider your #3 totally bogus. The multiple player choice has nothing to do with BD one way or the other, it has everything to do with protecting my investment in HD DVD software!
You say tomayto, I say tomarto! That's your way in protecting your investment. I was just outlining ways in either protecting the investment or making sure that the content, in whatever form, was still viewable in the future.
I chose option #2 since the software is so cheap, and bought a backup player for $70. I suppose when both players die I can go option #4. In conclusion, my option beat yours by $10 :D
Not when your second player dies:) Plus as an added benefit, I can (legal issues notwithstanding) move my content to other players to view
iceperson 05-19-09, 09:57 AM Bummer! I've four, but haven't had any problems yet. I usually use non-HD players for standard DVD, goal being to minimize wear and tear. My RCA HDV-5000 remains my primary HD DVD player, though I tend to play more SD DVD and BD than HD DVD.
I have an A-2 and an A-3 that won't display anything at all. A second A-2 still works, but at this point I'd rather just replace my titles and have one less component to deal with.
TrevorS 05-19-09, 01:28 PM You say tomayto, I say tomarto! That's your way in protecting your investment. I was just outlining ways in either protecting the investment or making sure that the content, in whatever form, was still viewable in the future. You specifically slanted #3 and that slant is what I consider bogus -- refusal to accept that BD won: "Don't accept it"! And it doesn't matter how you pronounce the word!
Protecting my software investment has nothing to do with denial or acceptance of anything! I have way more dollars in HD DVD software than HD DVD players, I plan on keeping them accessable.
TrevorS 05-19-09, 01:32 PM I have an A-2 and an A-3 that won't display anything at all. A second A-2 still works, but at this point I'd rather just replace my titles and have one less component to deal with.
Darn! They won't even play a standard DVD? First I've run across that.
You specifically slanted #3 and that slant is what I consider bogus -- refusal to accept that BD won: "Don't accept it"! And it doesn't matter how you pronounce the word!
Protecting my software investment has nothing to do with denial or acceptance of anything! I have way more dollars in HD DVD software than HD DVD players, I plan on keeping them accessable.
Yeah... I have trouble with #3 too. I'd say "3. Accept it - buy a bunch of backup players." I bought a $100 A35 and $50 A30 to go with my $600 XA1 (eek, early adopter) because I DID accept HD-DVD's demise and I wanted to be able to view my $1300 HD-DVD collection in the future.
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