What is it? 13-episode mystery/thriller from CBS starting on Thursday, April 9.

From CBS: HARPER'S ISLAND is about a group of family and friends who travel to a secluded island off the coast of Seattle for a destination wedding. This island is famous for a streak of unsolved murders from seven years ago. Although they've come to laugh and to love, what they don't know is they've also come... to die. As the wedding festivities begin, friendships are tested and secrets exposed as a murderer claims victims, one by one, transforming the wedding week of fun and celebration into a terrifying struggle for survival.

In every episode, someone is killed and every person is a suspect, from the wedding party to the island locals. By the end of the 13 episodes, all questions will be answered, the killer will be revealed and only a few will survive.

Don't miss the broadcast premiere of HARPER'S ISLAND on Thursday, April 9 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT).

So, looking forward to this - who dun it? :)

I'm looking forward to an end to the snipes advertising this show.

I'm looking forward to an end to the snipes advertising this show.+1. They've been rather intrusive.

Btw, anyone else notice that the ad for Harper's Island, with the faces on the dark background, is reminiscent of one of Queen's album covers?\

For what it's worth, I've seen the first episode and I have to say I'm not terribly impressed. The hype leads one to hope for one of those Agatha Christie super-mysteries. But after an hour of so-so acting, cheesy plot lines and saw-it-coming-a-mile-away "turning points," I'm afraid this is going to blow.

Doc

For what it's worth, I've seen the first episode and I have to say I'm not terribly impressed. The hype leads one to hope for one of those Agatha Christie super-mysteries. But after an hour of so-so acting, cheesy plot lines and saw-it-coming-a-mile-away "turning points," I'm afraid this is going to blow.

Doc

Ouch! Tough review. Really hadn't decided if it was worth a watch yet, but that sure doesn't make me run over to set the DVR.

The butler did it

The butler did it
In the library with the candlestick.

Ouch! Tough review. Really hadn't decided if it was worth a watch yet, but that sure doesn't make me run over to set the DVR.

can always delete it if it isn't to your liking but if you never record it you will never get to watch it! I will set it up for recording

can always delete it if it isn't to your liking but if you never record it you will never get to watch it! I will set it up for recording

Im atleast going to try it for a few episodes.... I like the idea behind it (the mini series) and even the setting but ive heard very few people actually liking the show.

Its kinda odd because when I watch the promos I imagine it being like what alan wake (the upcoming video game) will be like. (alan wake is probably the title I am most exited about if it ever comes out)

I'll probably record it too, but not real optimistic I will like it. I usually like mysteries, but for some reason the adds for this one don't seem to attract me much either.

As a fan of Christie's "And Then There Were None", aka Ten Little Indians, I have
anxiously awaited this show. I want so much to enjoy it. Please don't disappoint.

The butler did it

No. As I recall in Christie's book it was the Judge.:)

Ouch! Tough review. Really hadn't decided if it was worth a watch yet, but that sure doesn't make me run over to set the DVR. Matt Roush's review in "TV Guide" was even worse and he's seen nine of the 13 shows.

its only 9.5 hours....might as well watch....can it be so much worse than 90% of the other dreck on tv.

Matt Roush's review in "TV Guide" was even worse and he's seen nine of the 13 shows.

Yeah, at your suggestion I just read the Roush review. WOW, talk about trashing a show big time.

My question is are all 13 episodes in the can, or can some "rewriting" be done?
If the critics are right and this show sucks as much as they say, then ratings will fall. If this show then gets cancelled there will be a revolt as I assume the killer will not be revealed until the final episode. (DIRTY SEXY MONEY anyone)

The only safe bet seems to be to "tivo" the entire series and then watch.:mad:

I would think if 9 are in the can, there's not much point in changing up the final four. Its fate will be decided in the first few episodes. I'm betting it goes to Saturday night rather quickly.

My question is are all 13 episodes in the can, or can some "rewriting" be done?


i read it was "shot last year in vancouver" so it seems all finished.

I will at least be giving it a try. If for no other reason, I want to support original programming as opposed to yet another variant of a ludicrous reality show.

I actually like the idea of a "mini-series" that has a planned beginning, middle and ending. However, I would be extremely annoyed if the ratings tank and they don't show all of the episodes. With something like this, there better be a conclusive finale.

... With something like this, there better be a conclusive finale.Reminds me of "Reunion" which was gripping, well acted and infinitely fascinating. And which failed miserably, leaving us all to speculate as to the ending. I LOVED that show. Also liked "The Nine" which had a similar closed-end premise. One screener I never threw away.

Reminds me of "Reunion" which was gripping, well acted and infinitely fascinating. And which failed miserably, leaving us all to speculate as to the ending. I LOVED that show. Also liked "The Nine" which had a similar closed-end premise. One screener I never threw away.

Never saw 'Reunion', as much as I love serial shows, but did watch every single gripping minute of 'The Nine', as least the ones that actually made it to air. It was flat-out brilliant; superb on every level. Reminded me of the provocative and twisty 'Damages' in it's depth and complexity - another show that, sadly, is probably too smart for general American TV audiences.

Doesn't sound as though 'Harper's Island' will be in any danger of falling into that category, however. Which probably increases its chances for success.

Reminds me of "Reunion" which was gripping, well acted and infinitely fascinating. And which failed miserably, leaving us all to speculate as to the ending. I LOVED that show. Also liked "The Nine" which had a similar closed-end premise. One screener I never threw away.

Wasn't the NINE about a bank robbery? The funny thing about that one was that it was previewed by some critics as the top new show of its season.

I recall a show about three (?) guys planting a bomb on the top floor of a building. It was cancelled in mid run. But then the producers offered up a 3 or 4 episode conclusion to the series which was sure better than nothing. I can't remember the name, but I believe it had a one word title.

I'll set the ol' DVR to record it. There's nothing on Thursday nights anyway.

Reminds me of "Reunion" which was gripping, well acted and infinitely fascinating. And which failed miserably, leaving us all to speculate as to the ending. I LOVED that show. Also liked "The Nine" which had a similar closed-end premise. One screener I never threw away.

I remember "Reunion" - that was a great show!

I thought Daybreak was great, another series with a planned short season arc. I guess the ratings were bad and they didn't even film the planned full run, but at least they hodgepodged an okay ending, though a few more eps would have been much better.

I thought Daybreak was great, another series with a planned short season arc. I guess the ratings were bad and they didn't even film the planned full run, but at least they hodgepodged an okay ending, though a few more eps would have been much better.

Agree 100%! Had to buy the DVD set since ABC canceled it with episodes still unaired. But what a great ride! 'Daybreak' was a real mind-bender. And, just to show it wasn't just a cerebral exercise, practically every episode featured the stunning and voluptuous Moon Bloodgood waking up in her skimpy sleepduds. :)

Agree 100%! Had to buy the DVD set since ABC canceled it with episodes still unaired. But what a great ride! 'Daybreak' was a real mind-bender. And, just to show it wasn't just a cerebral exercise, practically every episode featured the stunning and voluptuous Moon Bloodgood waking up in her skimpy sleepduds. :)

Yeah, i was disapppointed that was cancelled as well. Some no-name cable channel ran the whole series a while back so I was able to watch the whole series again. TVOne or something like that...I can't remember the name of the channel now.

I have Harper's set up to record.

I'll have to Netflix the Daybreak DVDs, didn't realize there were unaired eps!

Good thing Harper's Island is at 10, my DVR is already working pretty hard on Thursday (NBC's block and CSI)

I thought Daybreak was great, another series with a planned short season arc. I guess the ratings were bad and they didn't even film the planned full run, but at least they hodgepodged an okay ending, though a few more eps would have been much better.

Was DAYBREAK the show with Taye Diggs?

Was DAYBREAK the show with Taye Diggs?

Yep.

I thought Daybreak was great, another series with a planned short season arc. I guess the ratings were bad and they didn't even film the planned full run, but at least they hodgepodged an okay ending, though a few more eps would have been much better.

Thats another good thing about Harper's Island...all the episodes are already in the can...as long as people watch, presumably all episodes will be aired...

& if successful a second season will feature an entirely new cast, an entirely new story and in an entirely new location.

Watched it, and will most likely watch it to its conclusion. But I gotta say, it was very cliche, and I found I didn't really care for any of the characters. I did like Harry Hamlins' character... but we all know what happened to him. http://emoticons4u.com/violent/sterb002.gif

I did like Harry Hamlins' character... but we all know what happened to him.

Agreed. Uncle Marty should have stuck around a few weeks.

A few interesting chracter actors are in this show that help keep me watching - Jim Beaver (Deadwood, Supernatural) and Chris Gauthier (Vincent from 'Eureka').

Also, I noticed that Jon Turteltaub is exec producing this one. He also exec produced the series 'Jericho,' another show I liked.

1. hot chix.
2. liked that they killed a character who was a name actor & thought might stick around....like when "scream" killed off drew barrymore from the get go.
3. less gory than i thought....maybe thats just network tv.
4. did i say hot chix.

1. hot chix.
2. liked that they killed a character who was a name actor & thought might stick around....like when "scream" killed off drew barrymore from the get go.
3. less gory than i thought....maybe thats just network tv.
4. did i say hot chix.

1 and 4 sound like that it is the best part of the show?

1 and 4 sound like that it is the best part of the show?

isnt it always ? ;)

isnt it always ? ;)

That is very true I look forward to watching sometime over the weekend

Didnt have high expectations for the show (a bit too much like the target demo for the CW), but it was vaguely entertaining, the scenery was nice (natural and human, yes), and with the big name actor dying off so early, I'm sure I wasn't the only one thinking "Well, WHO did it then?"

With Thursday being an empty night, viewing-wise, round our house, it will at least serve as an interesting diversion for the next 12 weeks.

No-one mentioned that "Dale Arden" from FLASH GORDON is also in the cast. (she was at least ONE good reason to watch that show) Does that mean that it's really mostly Canadians?

1. hot chix.

4. did i say hot chix.

That's all you had to say.http://audioaficionado.org/images/smilies/naughty.gif

Given the pre-airing reviews, I expected this to be a lot worse. Actually, it was not groan inducing as some critics suggested.

I could almost see this type of format being the template for serialized shows---given that those are the hardest to keep viewers interested in if the plot arcs go on too long without sufficient payoff. Worse, if they get canceled before a satisfactory conclusion.

The tricky part about this show is whether it can keep an audience long enough to allow it to run its full length. For now, it is a Series Link on the DVR.

Ratings information (From Mark Berman's Mediaweek column that appears in the top of fredfa's Hot Off The Press (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=838060)thread:
At 10 p.m., two dramas launched -- Harper’s Island on CBS and Southland on NBC. Here are the results followed by the observations of note:

Harper’s Island (CBS)
Viewers: 10.49 million (#1)
A18-49: 2.7/ 8 (#2)

Southland (NBC)
Viewers: 9.72 million (#2)
A18-49: 3.2/ 9 (#1)

The good news for both networks, of course, was the split leadership. But Southland is a better performance and here is why.

1. Growth out of lead-in 30 Rock was 2.97 million viewers and three percent among adults 18-49.
2. Growth in the second half-hour was 540,000 viewers (9.45 to 9.99 million) and six percent among adults 18-49 (3.1/ 9 to 3.3/10).

While certainly not bad, Harper’s Island, in contrast, declined from lead-in CSI by 5.87 million viewers and 27 percent among adults 18-49. And there was a loss of audience at 10:30 p.m. of 1.20 million viewers (11.09 to 9.89 million) and 11 percent among adults 18-49 (2.8/ 8 to 2.5/ 8). That is never a good sign.

Both Harper’s Island and Southland, meanwhile, were down to some degree from recent occupants Eleventh Hour (Viewers: 12.05 million; A18-49: 3.1/ 8 season to-date, based on the final nationals) and ER (Viewers: 10.14 million; A18-49: 3.9/10). But last night’s 10 p.m. winner is Southland.

Naturally, it being a show from my employer, I have to hope it'll win ..and the wife even wants to see the second episode before we put the fork in it.

It was cheesy but I liked it. So did Tom Shales of the Washington Post:

The fact is, "Harper's Island" is a cunningly constructed, habit-forming mystery that makes for an intriguing departure from normal episodic television. It's also a kind of hybrid; as on reality competition shows, one member of the cast will be eliminated each week, except that on "Harper's Island" they'll be murdered, not voted away by yuppies in leafy underpants . . .

The show is really 94 percent plot, so the actors don't have much leeway in terms of characterization or depth of performance. Elaine Cassidy's Abby, though, is a genuinely sympathetic figure, someone who's already been through a hellish sort of nightmare, and it doesn't take long to develop a rooting interest in seeing her survive this one. Gorham as Henry is so relentlessly chipper and smiley that he arouses suspicion from early on, but then in mysteries, the ones who look the guiltiest usually are not the whos that dun it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/08/AR2009040803894.html

Not too bad, but the groom character is goofy looking.

I dig it. I just watched this weeks episode.

yeah i usually agree with shales, and i did here...i think my fiancee enjoyed it more than i did, but theres certainly nice eye candy (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp?aid=11544&tcid=1), and I think the show will keep me watching simply because it keeps me guessing. no clue as to who the murderer is at this point..

Nice girls - terrible story. I like it.

Girls were hot and I'll support it just in hopes it will get more programming like this on. I wouldn't mind several serialized shows a year that run straight through and then go away instead of the big money, dribbled out gravy trains that go on year after year. Also it might be great for cable since many networks now seem to marathon certain movies over an entire weekend. Hey, marathon this instead!

We need something between 2 hours and syndication, don't we?

I'll have to Netflix the Daybreak DVDs, didn't realize there were unaired eps!

Good thing Harper's Island is at 10, my DVR is already working pretty hard on Thursday (NBC's block and CSI)

Speaking of Netflix, I noticed that the show is available for instant download in HD. I assume it's just the one episode for now. I didn't check it out because I had it on my DVR.

I'm still in the middle of this week's ep, but I'm gonna put out a couple assumptions:

Not-the-killer:

The Groom
The Bride (Trish?)
The Friend (Abby?)
The Fisherman (the one that likes Abby)
The Brit
The Blonde with the Brit
The creepy kid


Won't die:

The Groom
Abby
maybe the Bride
The creepy kid


My suspects:

Father of the bride (but too obvious)
Hunter (too obvious)
Unknown relative of the original killer
Abby's father

Still watching it...still enjoying it....but it seems odd the body count has been going up and hardly anyone notices....although the fake text message was a good cover at least for one.

I decided to ignore the bad reviews and watch it. Glad I did. Beautiful PQ and plot is fine so far. 5 dead in just two episodes-WOW.

I read the bad reviews too. So I went in with low expectations. But you what? I'm enjoying it. Take that all you critics!:D

If the killer isn't someone obscure that we don't know about yet, I'm betting of the fisherman kid that likes Abby.

If the killer isn't someone obscure that we don't know about yet, I'm betting of the fisherman kid that likes Abby.


No Way. As I recall, the first victim tied to the boat propeller shaft was at Seattle, while Abby's fisherman friend met Abby when she docked at the island.

I hope the killer turns out to be someone we have met already.

i think the killer is:

the 1st cousin of Michael Myers....
who is also the 2nd cousin of Freddy Krueger....
who is also the 3rd cousin of Jason Voorhees....

twice removed.

I read the bad reviews too. So I went in with low expectations. But you what? I'm enjoying it. Take that all you critics!:D

Yeah you've really got to take the show for what it is...its a bit campy, but what murder mystery isn't...i'm glad people are sticking with the show...

I have a theory that whoever the second most annoying character is is the killer...trying to figure out who fits into that equation...

supposedly they are dropping hints here (http://www.harpersglobe.com), but i havent been able to dig through the site yet..

Any chance its the british guy?

My wife is a huge Mary Higgins Clark fan - her rule of thumb is that its always the person you LEAST expect it to be. So, now, who is that???

My wife is a huge Mary Higgins Clark fan - her rule of thumb is that its always the person you LEAST expect it to be. So, now, who is that???

that spooky little girl.

edit: forgot to add, as jerry seinfeld would say, "'shes freaking me out !!"

I recall a show about three (?) guys planting a bomb on the top floor of a building. It was cancelled in mid run. But then the producers offered up a 3 or 4 episode conclusion to the series which was sure better than nothing. I can't remember the name, but I believe it had a one word title."Traveler (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805668/)"?

"Traveler (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805668/)"?

That's the one.

From Fredfa's "Hot Off The Press" thread at the top of the 'HDTV Programming' thread:

TV Notes
CBS moves 'Harper's Island' to Saturday
Ratings-challenged drama's finale set for July 11
By James Hibberd, The Hollywood Reporter - April 27, 2009

Saturday night is starting to get pretty popular.

After three episodes, CBS is moving struggling mystery thriller "Harper's Island" from Thursdays to Saturday nights starting May 2. Newsmagazine "48 Hours Mystery" will take the drama's place.

"Harper's" hit a modest note out of the gate, then declined with each episode. The network still plans to air all the remaining "Harper's" episodes, with the finale set for July 11.

The shakeup comes after NBC relocated "Kings" from Sunday to the low-viewed Saturdays, and ABC scheduled "Pushing Daisies," "Eli Stone" and "Dirty Sexy Money" to burn off their remaining episodes on Saturdays this summer. Yet even being relocated to Saturday by no means guarantees a program will continue uninterrupted -- NBC recently pushed "Kings" to summer after the drama came in last place on its new night.

Most thought "Harper's" was an inventive idea -- a mystery series where characters were killed off one by one like on a reality show -- that stumbled from less-than-inventive execution. CBS promoted the show well too. Yet NBC's new cop drama "Southland" went head-to-head against the series and has fared better in the slot.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i5a22d4d608ec4c250fffc63e101196e7

I like this move as it frees up a tuner for me on Thursday nights. The show is just ok and will watch to the end I guess

Well, I gave it three episodes, but I'm officially giving up on the series. I had high hopes for this when it was first announced; the concept sounded very interesting.

But, the writing, acting, and pacing are on the level of a soap opera. The characters are acting stupid, the scares aren't scary. The production values are quite good; it's too bad that there isn't a decent story built around them.

Scott

If you care, a new episode on a new night. Saturday night. I hope somebody else watches so I won't be the only poster.:) At least it will be cheaper than the Ricky Hatton PPV.

I care, Mikey.:D I'm liking it more with each episode. Sure it's a little campy, but I'm ok with that. To sum it up, I'll be watching.:cool:

If you care, a new episode on a new night. Saturday night. I hope somebody else watches so I won't be the only poster.:) At least it will be cheaper than the Ricky Hatton PPV.

Do not worry, I'll be watching. I kind of like it.

If you care, a new episode on a new night. Saturday night. I hope somebody else watches so I won't be the only poster.:) At least it will be cheaper than the Ricky Hatton PPV.

Oh, I'll be here. As goofy as this series is....I have a need to see it to the end just for the "who done it". :D

Oh, I'll be here. As goofy as this series is....I have a need to see it to the end just for the "who done it". :D

I guess there will be 3 of us then

I would think if 9 are in the can, there's not much point in changing up the final four. Its fate will be decided in the first few episodes. I'm betting it goes to Saturday night rather quickly.
Well, you nailed it...

From Fredfa's "Hot Off The Press" thread at the top of the 'HDTV Programming' thread:

TV Notes
CBS moves 'Harper's Island' to Saturday
Ratings-challenged drama's finale set for July 11
By James Hibberd, The Hollywood Reporter - April 27, 2009

Saturday night is starting to get pretty popular.

After three episodes, CBS is moving struggling mystery thriller "Harper's Island" from Thursdays to Saturday nights starting May 2. Newsmagazine "48 Hours Mystery" will take the drama's place.

"Harper's" hit a modest note out of the gate, then declined with each episode. The network still plans to air all the remaining "Harper's" episodes, with the finale set for July 11.

The shakeup comes after NBC relocated "Kings" from Sunday to the low-viewed Saturdays, and ABC scheduled "Pushing Daisies," "Eli Stone" and "Dirty Sexy Money" to burn off their remaining episodes on Saturdays this summer. Yet even being relocated to Saturday by no means guarantees a program will continue uninterrupted -- NBC recently pushed "Kings" to summer after the drama came in last place on its new night.

Most thought "Harper's" was an inventive idea -- a mystery series where characters were killed off one by one like on a reality show -- that stumbled from less-than-inventive execution. CBS promoted the show well too. Yet NBC's new cop drama "Southland" went head-to-head against the series and has fared better in the slot.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i5a22d4d608ec4c250fffc63e101196e7

The thing I found surprising from the beginning is that "Harper's Island" is inhabited by persons not involved in the plot. In other words, the island is a small community, or city, unlike Christie's AND THEN THERE WERE NONE (AKA TEN LITTLE INDIANS) where the players were the only persons on the "island". I figured that Harper's Island would consist of the usual bunch of people marooned on the island with the "phone being out" and "the next boat won't be here for another 3 days".

So, pulling a Plaxico Burress on yourself is now considered part of the murders?

That was so lame!

So, pulling a Plaxico Burress on yourself is now considered part of the murders?

That was so lame!

Yeah; not the best episode so far. Total IQ of about 100 for the groom and the groomsmen.

So, pulling a Plaxico Burress on yourself is now considered part of the murders?

That was so lame!

Maybe not...but certainly should be up for a Darwin Award (http://www.darwinawards.com/) (if they awarded them for fictional characters) :D

Stupid Time Warner DVR didn't catch the schedule change and I missed this week's ep :\

Stupid Time Warner DVR didn't catch the schedule change and I missed this week's ep :\

Can't you catch it at CBS.COM?

Yeah; not the best episode so far. Total IQ of about 100 for the groom and the groomsmen.

Agreed. C'mon!!

Not a fan of murder this episode, shooting himself! Kind of lame, but I enjoy this series a lot.

I guess there will be 3 of us then

Make that 4. :)

I read bad things about the show, but it is available on InDemand in HD so I gave it a shot. I actually like it quite a bit. I'm fairly forgiving of plot if productions values are high with this genre of show. It sure looks good on a 9' screen.

Art

Make that 4. :)

Er, 5?

My wife and I are enjoying it a bit. It's light entertainment - nothing that pretends to be anything deep or meaningful - just some fun viewing for a Saturday night.

I was a bit sad that the previously blissfully happy/unaware Henry was dragged all the way into the plot this week. Same for Trish of course. I think she's in over her head now...;)

With the increasing # of deaths, at what point do the rest of the wedding party finally, suddenly say "Hey, whatever happend to.."?

Er, 5?

My wife and I are enjoying it a bit. It's light entertainment - nothing that pretends to be anything deep or meaningful - just some fun viewing for a Saturday night.

I was a bit sad that the previously blissfully happy/unaware Henry was dragged all the way into the plot this week. Same for Trish of course. I think she's in over her head now...;)

With the increasing # of deaths, at what point do the rest of the wedding party finally, suddenly say "Hey, whatever happend to.."?

I was thinking the same thing when does the wedding party start asking where are all the people that have been killed. This show is great for the brain as no thinking is necessary when watching

Additionally,

We also found ourselves noticing that during this weeks episode: "Hey, those people, They're not involved in this plot!" It became sort of a game, sort of like slug-bug "Hey, extras!" *smack*

Of course, this was only possible after re-watching episodes 1 and 2 so that we were really clear on who was who (and who WASn't) With so many characters at the start, it was easy to lose track of em all!

With the increasing # of deaths, at what point do the rest of the wedding party finally, suddenly say "Hey, whatever happend to.."?

Good point - guess its representative of the overly-considerate non-narcissistic group of people we have here.

Not much happened this last episode. Now we have to wait two weeks for the next episode. It's as if CBS doesn't want us to watch.:confused:

I didn't see that death coming. Wow.

Does anyone know if any other channels are playing past episodes? I know for some NBC shows, Sci-Fi plays them. I was wondering if anyone knew of a channel playing the previous episodes. My mother wants to watch it but needs to get caught up and she doesn't have a computer to watch them on-line.

I was thinking the same thing when does the wedding party start asking where are all the people that have been killed. This show is great for the brain as no thinking is necessary when watching

Seriously. I was thinking that as the body count was going up that somebody would start to notice. Especially that initial scene at the rehearsal where they finally started realizing that several people weren't there.

Of course, with the ending scene and the chandelier, I suspect they will finally "get it".

Maybe I haven't paid enough attention, but are we supposed to know who the creepy guy with the half burned face is???

He looked like Wakefield to me. (is the name right? whoever the original killer was)

I'll see if I can catch the ep I missed on CBS.com, previously I didn't have a computer I could watch that on. Did the blonde and the brit get killed off in that ep? Was wondering where they were this week, I didn't catch anything happening to them during the "previously on" segment.

Of course, with the ending scene and the chandelier, I suspect they will finally "get it".



Don't rule out the possibility that they will blame "faulty wiring".

He looked like Wakefield to me. (is the name right? whoever the original killer was)

So the sheriff didn't really get him a few years back? I couldn't tell if he was the same one who let the dog loose.

I'll see if I can catch the ep I missed on CBS.com, previously I didn't have a computer I could watch that on. Did the blonde and the brit get killed off in that ep? Was wondering where they were this week, I didn't catch anything happening to them during the "previously on" segment.

Now that you mention it....????

Don't rule out the possibility that they will blame "faulty wiring".

:D

"Clueless Island"

He looked like Wakefield to me. (is the name right? whoever the original killer was)

It wasn't Wakefield. Wakefield is the actor that played the cylon Leoben in BSG - Callum Keith Rennie. You may not know the actor, but even with half a burned face, he'd be recognized by BSG fans.

I'll see if I can catch the ep I missed on CBS.com, previously I didn't have a computer I could watch that on. Did the blonde and the brit get killed off in that ep? Was wondering where they were this week, I didn't catch anything happening to them during the "previously on" segment.

No, they are alive and well.

I didn't see that death coming. Wow.

Does anyone know if any other channels are playing past episodes? I know for some NBC shows, Sci-Fi plays them. I was wondering if anyone knew of a channel playing the previous episodes. My mother wants to watch it but needs to get caught up and she doesn't have a computer to watch them on-line.

I think Comcast has them On-Demand... in HD even.

I didn't see that death coming. Wow.


Are you referring to the chandelier "seemingly" hitting the father of the bride? They cut away pretty darn quick.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a GUESS as to the identity of the killer. I think it is the heavy guy who shot a hole in the bottom of the boat and ended up with the money.

Or did Abby's Dad, the sheriff, actually kill Wakefield 7 years ago...? Spooky, spooky.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a GUESS as to the identity of the killer. I think it is the heavy guy who shot a hole in the bottom of the boat and ended up with the money.

I think it is the groom.

Are you referring to the chandelier "seemingly" hitting the father of the bride? They cut away pretty darn quick.

Yes.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a GUESS as to the identity of the killer. I think it is the heavy guy who shot a hole in the bottom of the boat and ended up with the money.

At this point, sure why not! :D

Me, I'm going with Abby as the least likely to do it, so she has to be the one. She was so traumatized by the death of her Mom that she's developed multiple personalities, the "nice" Abby we see and the "evil" Abby offing everyone (of course, I don't believe this for a second but Agatha Christie had a tendency of making the villain the least likely suspect).

At this point, sure why not! :D

Me, I'm going with Abby as the least likely to do it, so she has to be the one. She was so traumatized by the death of her Mom that she's developed multiple personalities, the "nice" Abby we see and the "evil" Abby offing everyone (of course, I don't believe this for a second but Agatha Christie had a tendency of making the villain the least likely suspect).

Abby can do whatever she wants ;)

Abby can do whatever she wants ;)

Great post.:)

I think that they will surely put things together now. They started to once everyone was supposed to be all together for the rehearsal. It might go unnoticed while everyone was scattered doing their own thing and the bride and groom were concentrating on planning (though come on, a girl with parents that rich had these things planned long ago). Plus they got the messages from some of them saying they had left. Now, it hink it will be too much to ignore.

I think that they will surely put things together now.
My wife and I were thinking the same thing. With the wedding rehearsal being the first occasion for pretty much everyone to be in the same place, they were sure to notice people missing. Although we're still pretty early in the run (ep. 6?), we're expecting that the horror and terror, violence, etc., will have to be ramped up from here.

Nice cliffhanger too. Shame we'll have to wait so long to find out who ACTUALLy snuffed it.

So how soon until Abby starts blaming her Dad...

So how soon until Abby starts blaming her Dad...

Not sure but I can see that happening. Abby can do whatever she wants as far as I am concerned

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a GUESS as to the identity of the killer. I think it is the heavy guy who shot a hole in the bottom of the boat and ended up with the money.

I don't think he's smart enough to pull this off.

I don't think he's smart enough to pull this off.

Or fit enough.

Ok, I went to watch the latest episode last night, and it wasn't on my DVR. So I checked the listing and apparently, it wasn't aired. Anyone know why?

Ok, I went to watch the latest episode last night, and it wasn't on my DVR. So I checked the listing and apparently, it wasn't aired. Anyone know why?

Just a special repeat of two Mentalist episodes. Harper's returns this Saturday.

Just a special repeat of two Mentalist episodes. Harper's returns this Saturday.

Peter, thanks for clearing that up.:)

Peter, thanks for clearing that up.:)

NP. I even knew that, but tuned in last night! I really want to know how that rehearsal turned out---even though it looks like we know.

NP. I even knew that, but tuned in last night! I really want to know how that rehearsal turned out---even though it looks like we know.

I was looking forward to it too.


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I knew in advance that Harper's would not be on, so I made sure to record the two Mentalist episodes. While I was initially disappointed Harper's would not be shown, the two Mentalist repeats should help us Mentalist fans better understand the season finale next week involving a serial killer (aka "Red John").

This is one of the trashiest, most implausible series ever. I'm loving every minute of it!

Just when I think I have an idea who done it (or more properly, who is doing it), they through in another red herring. So, another one bites the dust tonight.

That little girl creeps me out.

This is one of the trashiest, most implausible series ever. I'm loving every minute of it!

Just when I think I have an idea who done it (or more properly, who is doing it), they through in another red herring. So, another one bites the dust tonight.

That little girl creeps me out.

She definitely gives me the creeps too.

I am enjoying this show, and actually I am enjoying it more knowing this is the only season. I don't have to worry about what will be next season or a cliffhanger, etc. I can just enjoy each episode.

I have to say I am enjoying this show as well especiallt Abby. I agree though 1 season will be plenty

I like the one season format, you can tell an enclosed story without a need to artificially stretch it out. Only other show I can think of that did it though was Daybreak, which didn't even get to air its full run.

If Harper's Island had succeeded (moving it to a Saturday was the first sign it wasn't) it could have spawned, not a sequel but another 1 season mystery event. Heck, people have been playing Clue for as long as I can remember.

I agree. The move to Saturday night wasn't a good sign. Regardless, I'm enjoying this series. Yeah, it's a bit cheesy. But it's fun.

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Are we supposed to know who the guy with the scarred face is? Did I miss something along the way? ...and why does a certain character hang out with him?

Are we supposed to know who the guy with the scarred face is? Did I miss something along the way? ...and why does a certain character hang out with him?

My wife and I said the exact same thing. Who the heck is that suppose to be?

He's the guy who released the dog on the father-daughter after they trespassed. If you knew that, sorry - no idea who he is. :)

My wife and I are sortof enjoying it. Our biggest complaints are the inplausibility of everything, such as.


The guy releases an attack dog on them, yet they don't report it.
The british guy gets caught in that trap, yet they don't report it.
There are THREE murders (that they know about anyways), yet they are still leaving it up to the podunk Island Sherrif to solve the case. You would think when you have a serial murderer loose on your island, you'd want to get the "real" authorities involved.


Also, I hate the "I talk to dead people" little girl, since that's so cliche.

But on the whole we are enjoying it.

He's the guy who released the dog on the father-daughter after they trespassed. If you knew that, sorry - no idea who he is. :)

No, that's fine. I do remember that, but his identity is still an unknown right? We are assuming that the body in the grave is actually Wakefield (lacking any other evidence to the contrary)...so it probably isn't him (unless it is and the sheriff killed somebody else :D).

My wife and I are sortof enjoying it. Our biggest complaints are the inplausibility of everything, such as.


The guy releases an attack dog on them, yet they don't report it.
The british guy gets caught in that trap, yet they don't report it.
There are THREE murders (that they know about anyways), yet they are still leaving it up to the podunk Island Sherrif to solve the case. You would think when you have a serial murderer loose on your island, you'd want to get the "real" authorities involved.


Also, I hate the "I talk to dead people" little girl, since that's so cliche.

But on the whole we are enjoying it.

With points #1 and #2, I assume these folks spent some time visiting the Lost island since those folks are notorious for not sharing timely information ;).

As for point #3--I mean, yeah, right?

As long as Katie Cassidy remains alive, I guess I'll watch. Of course, I guess that means I'll get roped into Melrose Place as well, but at least they took her hair back blonde for Melrose like it was in Supernatural.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a GUESS as to the identity of the killer. I think it is the heavy guy who shot a hole in the bottom of the boat and ended up with the money.

So much for my "guess" on who dun it.

I enjoyed tonights episode. Reminiscent of Lost with the flashbacks to 7 years prior. Also, it seems like they focused more on the hotel staff this episode. A clue? Or just to add tension? Hmmm, things are heatin' up.

Well, at least now we know who the scary guy in the woods is.

There's still something off with the dad and the story. It just keeps changing and changing and changing...

There are THREE murders (that they know about anyways), yet they are still leaving it up to the podunk Island Sherrif to solve the case. You would think when you have a serial murderer loose on your island, you'd want to get the "real" authorities involved.


It's not like it's been days since the murders were discovered, and he kinda has experience with mass murderers as well. ;)

Art

Do we know anything yet about the guy tied to the propeller shaft in the first episode?

Do we know anything yet about the guy tied to the propeller shaft in the first episode?

Well, he's dead...

;)

Well, he's dead...

;)

Guess he won't be around for "Harper's Island Season 2"... :p

I enjoyed this weeks show and answered a few questions. By the way has Abby have one of the nicest asses on tv or what

I enjoyed this weeks show and answered a few questions. By the way has Abby have one of the nicest asses on tv or what

And that's not even her strongest asset(s), IMO. I'm praying for a Playboy spread. :p

Guess he won't be around for "Harper's Island Season 2"... :p

Actually, that's one of the nice things about 'Harper's Island' - the fact that it's a one-shot "midi-series", for which I've long been a big advocate. ABC's 'Daybreak' was another 13 parter sandwiched into a LOST hiatus a couple of years ago that was a crackerjack yarn which moved at blistering pace and kept you guessing all the way to the end. Much better overall than HI, but was appreciated by the masses to no greater extent. At least HI is getting to finish their story on the network; you had to get the DVD's to find out how 'Daybreak' ended up. (I did and it was well worth it.)

And that's a shame. The Brits do it all the time. Tell a great story, have fun, get off the stage to make room for more such fare. No need to worry about getting canceled before your long-term, well-thought-out, carefully crafted plotline even gets off the ground. And similarly, no need to worry about running out of steam, energy and story ideas, limping around for years because the network is still making money on the show and people keep tuning in out of habit *cough* 'Desperate Housewives' *cough*.

Seems like a good plan to me. I love these things - a brief, passionate affair then a civil and gracious goodbye. Heck, what guy wouldn't? ;)

Guess he won't be around for "Harper's Island Season 2"... :p
Additionally, for quite a few of us here, we have SO many other shows we may be following during the normal season that it's nice to know that there's at least one show that will have it's limited run and then be done. We can watch, enjoy, and know that, eventually, there will be a slot available in our schedule.

And that's not even her strongest asset(s), IMO. I'm praying for a Playboy spread. :p

I think it is but lord knows she has plenty other stuff going on. I hope sheis the last one standing hate to see her get killed.

I think it is but lord knows she has plenty other stuff going on. I hope sheis the last one standing hate to see her get killed.

Careful what you wish for - many think she is the killer! ;)

Careful what you wish for - many think she is the killer! ;)

She can kill me anyway she wants I welcome her to give it a try

The bride's dad gets sliced in half in the church (besides the other disappearances/murders), and the wedding still isn't cancelled or moved?

It was cancelled. The wedding was supposed to be the next morning, and they all packed up to leave.

Careful what you wish for - many think she is the killer! ;)

I guess this makes sense. Abby is the Narrator of the story so that would seem to indicate she is still alive. Perhaps this narration is her confessing her story to the police or a shrink. The problem is several of the murders would require the strenth of a man, or at least two people.

I guess this makes sense. Abby is the Narrator of the story so that would seem to indicate she is still alive. Perhaps this narration is her confessing her story to the police or a shrink. The problem is several of the murders would require the strenth of a man, or at least two people.

Abby could never do anything like this could she? I agree she would have to have someone else helping her maybe it is Henry and her they seem awful close?

Abby could never do anything like this could she? I agree she would have to have someone else helping her maybe it is Henry and her they seem awful close?

Well, Abby is damaged good after all. Her Mom's death may have caused some type of psychotic break.

Perhaps an "evil Abby" appears from time to time fueled by a mega adrenaline rush, giving her unusual strength. It would make sense that the most likable character is the fiend if they are going for a "Norman Bates" type ending.

She does know the island quite well.

I'll bet it's the MOLE. Oops, wrong program.:D

Well, Abby is damaged good after all. Her Mom's death may have caused some type of psychotic break.

Perhaps an "evil Abby" appears from time to time fueled by a mega adrenaline rush, giving her unusual strength. It would make sense that the most likable character is the fiend if they are going for a "Norman Bates" type ending.

I would love to have 2 Abby's what more could a man want?;)

At the rate they are going, they are going to run out of characters pretty soon.

Another good episode. Looks like this week they're pointing the finger at Henry.http://emoticons4u.com/violent/sterb131.gif

Well, we can eliminate the sheriff, J.D. and scary melted face man (AKA the deputy) as suspects. I guess the "evil Abby" theory (which never was a good one I admit) also has to go.

I'm now voting for evil Madison. :D

Abby could never be evil she looks to good. Madison would have to really have some super powers to be able to pull this off. I admit I have no clue as to who it is

I'm now voting for evil Madison. :D

Madison no! She's not strange at all. She seems to act like a normal kid to me. Kids sometime cause a bit mischief. It's just the silly music score that makes her scary.:D

Now the issue becomes the "time frame". In other words, when the jail guard was shot many of the other characters were together in groups. Same when melted face man was shot with arrows.

All I know is that the killer has to be one real strong and talented (can fire a gun and a bow and arrow) dude.

Often times in these "who dun it" shows you have to make sure you actually saw the victim die. I admit it is a stretch, but we never saw Booth shoot himself. We heard a shot and saw a lot of blood. We never saw Malcolm bury Booth. In the movie version of Christie's novel (Ten Little Indians) we never saw the Judge die rather we assumed he was dead because the doctor said he was.

I hope somebody has some better theories. Let's hear them.

I hope somebody has some better theories. Let's hear them.

I've used up all my really good theories in the LOST thread. :p

I think it's got to be a two-man operation. Or, person. Maybe Madison is in on it with someone else; that child just ain't right. :eek:

I think it could be Abby and Jimmy. I'm thinking that Jim could have even killed the rest of the wedding party that just left the island. Did they really leave, or did jim who always works out at the dock do something sinister? I just think that Abby is a really messed up character and could have the overplayed by hollywood, DID.

or you can go the the multiple killer angle.

J.D.'s dying words were (to paraphrase), "It's all about you Abby". So, taking that at face value and not another red herring---maybe it is Jimmy (either alone or working with somebody--could be hope for the "evil Abby" theory yet!).

For this to have a satisfying conclusion, it has to be someone (or two) characters we've met and don't suspect and not some off the wall stranger. Also, the motive for all these murders will have to fit. Perhaps someone is the son or daughter of the original killer looking for revenge?

Thanks to CBS.com, I've finally caught up on this and now can rejoin the thread with no fear of spoilers.

It is really too bad they moved it to Sat and also too bad it isn't getting more of a view. It is beautifully filmed and very enjoyable to watch so far. CBS is owned by Viacom and they ought to try marathon-ing it on one of the MTV channels to get the teens and lower 20 demos hooked.

In terms of the casting the ladies are all gorgeous. My wife loved the sequences where the blond got her ring back.

I recall, the first victim tied to the boat propeller shaft

I would watch the Harpers Globe the web series, if you're interested in this character.

Anybody know how many more shows there are?

Anybody know how many more shows there are?

8 of the 13 episodes have been aired.

I would watch the Harpers Globe the web series, if you're interested in this character.

The first few webisodes are a little tedious to get though, but they do get progressively better.

a bit clinical but...
here are some messy notes I jotted down while watching the show.
also some questions i had while watching

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harpers island, who is harper, is there a harper on the island?

chloe/cal is fascinated about murder stories.
cal claim to have taught madison bloody finger in box gag
cal knows how to sail.
chloe seeks/finds wakefields gravestone

wakefield was incarcerated for 17~ years.
cole: the murders on the island was a revenge plot against the sheriff charlie mills for incarcerating wakefield.
did wakefield actually commit the original murders? copycat for recent serials?
did wakefield really die? is that his bones in the grave?

abbys mom, Sarah used to date bad boys.
sheriff says sarah had relationship with wakefield, they dated in seattle.
Sarah tells sheriff came to island to get away from wakefield because of abuse. wf followed.
sheriff arrested wakefield for attempted murder of a cop, after sheriff told cole to go after wf.
is sarah really dead?

was the reason abby was sent away true?
did abby scare dad for some reason?
is abby the daughter of wakefield?
abby birthday April 25, 1983
abby admits to b not a good swimmer

trish dated sully, when hen and trish were broken up.
trish had worked at the museum.
hunter had chance with trish 3 years ago.
What happened bt trish and hunter in college? why the break?
trish broke it off w hunter.
trish prev time alone with dad 2yr ago in jamaica.

jimmy can use arrows, hunted deer with shane.
jimmy delivering groceries to julia. have to do with sheriff + jim reconcile relationship?
7 years ago, abby sees killer with victim, jimmy saves abby by misdirection.
e8: jimmy says boat has left island, without the rest of the madison search party.

shane is unable to hit moving target (deer) with arrows.
shane tells sheriff alibi for kelly death, was at the beach, assaulted by henry.
shane gave kelly the wakefield tats.

why was kelly mother killed?
kelly, was being stalked? maybe by shane??
did kelly kill herself? doc think not.
Kelly red eyes, doc says not blood, but ink. Newspaper? has bear with red eyes.
Kelly has been on meds.
Kelly looking in a mirror in bathroom with abby tells abby that she still sees wakefield.
Kelly broke up with Shane. very bad break up for shane.
nikki: kelly was being abused by shane.

Hen and abby really just bff? question asked but not answered in pilot.
Hen was not privileged, or locals, worked summer on island.
hen cleaned mr wellington boat as a kid
henry as kid consumed all of mr wellington liquor on boat.
Henry not bad at skeet shooting
jd: henry wants to be liked by everyone.
what exactly happened to jd + hen father?
jd + hen lived with uncle marty.

3 years ago, who was the high school girl that died that had a suicide pact with jd?
how did jd get uncle marty's cellphone? did jd send the text message to henry as marty?
jd does not like pills because of symptoms.
jd admits to put fireworks in church candle.
jd and his dad only visiters 2 cole while in hospital for burns.
cole say jd was helping him to track killer.

why did cole release dog on wellingtons?
cole came to island to hunt killer? does not think wakefield is dead
cole tells sheriff been on island only few weeks
cole admits seting some traps on the island.
cole has prison diary of wakefield

mr wellington does not like henry enough for him to merry trish.
mr wellington disrupts hen and trish by bringing hunter to island on wedding. mw mad at hunter for failing.
mw does not trust henry.
how/when did mrs wellington die?
when did mw meet Katherine? they had a very small wedding.
mw remarried to Katherine, cheating on him with richard, mw knows, hates richard.

madison is 7y old.
madison w/ bloody finger box prank
mad burns snail with magfy glass
mad pulls flowers from hotel lawn
mad steals cousin ben (1st vic) gift bag, tears card.
mad plays firecrackers w/jd.
mad acquires "mystic card"
tells abby, spirits told her she's not going to be a flower girl. while playing with the cards.
mad mentions new friend. jd?
mad learns about the 6 killings from a friend.
mad lets jd out of the locked fridge. tells jd, that no one ever notices her.
rich instructs mad to lies to sheriff about being with dad richard prior to mr well death at church. cath was not with rich.
madison calls abby to say dont let them off island or mad would die.

one eye cab driver (seattle) is creepy, knows about abby and wakefield
how did marty get that money? coyote for mexican band?
who requested the newspaper articles? cole?
who is making mysterious musical call to abby?
who taped wakefield newspaper article on abbys mirror in hotel
who smashed the china? was from trish birth mom?
who is sending postcards to sheriff with "liar" on them? cole? calls him liar several times.

most of the sharp metal tools used to kill are from whaling?? head spade missing from museum.
gun that killed hunter was made in london for the candlewick inn.
match used to set lucy on fire are from candlewick.

I admit I'm confused as hell ;) I keep thinking the pasty British guy is going to end up being the killer just because it would be SOOOO unexpected ;)

Thanks Tony for the analysis. I still don't have a clue.

Does anyone know if the program is filmed on the coast of British Columbia or Washington State? In the last episode that looked like the Capilano Suspension Bridge (in North Vancouver).

I have no idea who behind it, yet. I don't think there is enough clues yet to be sure.

mrtwstr, British guy Kal? Maybe...who knows.. What motive do you have? Alone or with chole? Maybe kal is the brother? of the girl who had a suicide pact with jd 3 years prior, he's exacting his revenge on jd by making it look like copycat/or wakefield killing with all of the crime knowledge he has? He did get trapped upside down, but maybe he was unaware that cole laid traps as well? Did anyone die when kal was trapped upside down? I dont remember.

Nicely written analysis, Tony.:cool:

I've been wondering if Abby is Wakefield's daughter too.

Tony, I wish I knew. I'm guessing Kal because he's about the most useless character on the show, and therefore is suspect :)

kal does know how to sail, making him very knowledgeable with ropes. But he really don't seem all that strong,..

Tony, I wish I knew. I'm guessing Kal because he's about the most useless character on the show, and therefore is suspect :)

I am not positive, but I think Cal was hanging upside down in the woods when the girl and her dog were burned in a pit.

No, don't worry, the dog is okay.

I want to know some family tree related things. How did trish mom die? What about mr/mrs dunn, jd and henry parents how did they die.

who are the six people that die by wakefield, all we know is kelly and abby mom.

I am not positive, but I think Cal was hanging upside down in the woods when the girl and her dog were burned in a pit.

Ahhh... shoot. Ok, I'm back to being completely confused.

Ahhh... shoot. Ok, I'm back to being completely confused.

You are not alone.

OK, I won't try and say I'm 100% clear on what's going on, but reading here has helped to clarify a few things, thanks.

As a side note, this might be elementary to to a good director/DP/etc., but I was particularly impressed with the scene when Abby, rifle ready, was walking down the dock, attempting to locate the source of the sounds she was hearing (and possibly trying to locate JD). It was mostly 3rd person POV (a la a lot of 3rd person shooters we've seen), but we, the viewer, could really only basically see Abby, with everything in front of her being dark/out of focus, which really seemed to heighten the tension of the moment. It would have been really easy to have a CU of only her, or to use an angle that wouldn't have allowed us to see what was in front of her, but to be ABLE to see in front of her, but not really see - that was well done.

It seemed that (like so much of the show) it would normally be shot with deep focus (allowing everything in shot to be in focus) but this was very shallow. For as much as I appreciate all the subtle evocative things that can be done with the camera, I wish I understood more of HOW it's done.

Did anyone else out there (with perhaps a better understanding of the mechanics) notice this, and/or could explain it better/clearer?

Does anyone know if the program is filmed on the coast of British Columbia or Washington State? In the last episode that looked like the Capilano Suspension Bridge (in North Vancouver).
I didn't see any independent verification, but the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper's_Island) article indicates that it's filmed in Vancouver, so that seems very likely.

I hope somebody has some better theories. Let's hear them.
Blair Witch

Sadly that's really the best guess I got.

Was Abby a writer in Los Angeles or something? I think I read that last year in pilot season.

All the clues were there!!! He just went psycho!

Did anyone figure it out before tonight's episode?

I do know that Bowen Island was used a lot on the show.

I do know that Bowen Island was used a lot on the show.

Thanks ... I thought the scenery looked familiar.

All the clues were there!!! He just went psycho!

Did anyone figure it out before tonight's episode?

Given the way this show has unfolded, I'm holding off making a firm conclusion. It has a way of doubling back on itself just when you think you have the answer.

I'd be willing to bet that the preview for next week which seems to indicate who done it, is really misdirection.

Or not.

Given the way this show has unfolded, I'm holding off making a firm conclusion. It has a way of doubling back on itself just when you think you have the answer.

I'd be willing to bet that the preview for next week which seems to indicate who done it, is really misdirection.

Or not.

I make a habit of never watching the previews!

But, from what Madison said at the end it seemed to indicate the killer ... but who knows we may be fooled again!!! Good series!

It's hard to believe they would reveal the killer with four episodes left. There has to be more twists, otherwise it's pretty basic catch the bad guy stuff.

They're setting us up with the Sheriff. The Sheriff was wounded in his ex-deputy's cabin, when someone starts shooting arrows.

But I tell you what, there's no way I'd be going in those crawl spaces!:eek:

Not one of the better episodes. What's with all the trails of blood. Are we being asked to believe the Sheriff, who wounded as he is, could drag Beth's body through those tunnels.

With only 4 episodes left, guess we will have double murders the rest of the way.

It's hard to believe they would reveal the killer with four episodes left. There has to be more twists, otherwise it's pretty basic catch the bad guy stuff.

Agreed. If this follows the basic Christie story, the "big reveal" will not happen until the last episode, at which time we will say either, "yes, of course---the clues were there all along" or "you've got to be kidding me--I sat through 13 episodes for THIS???!!!!).

They're setting us up with the Sheriff. The Sheriff was wounded in his ex-deputy's cabin, when someone starts shooting arrows.Maybe my memory is faulty (again) but I thought he was hit with an arrow from trap, not human fired.

Not one of the better episodes. What's with all the trails of blood. Are we being asked to believe the Sheriff, who wounded as he is, could drag Beth's body through those tunnels.Yup and last night there was to much standard slasher movie crap where people, who should know better, go out on their own.

As an aside, if you receive "Retro TV" (on a local channel sub channel) and are a true who dun it fan, check out ELLERY QUEEN reruns. Great series.

Maybe my memory is faulty (again) but I thought he was hit with an arrow from trap, not human fired.

He was inside the cabin with a wounded leg when the "killer" started shooting arrows at Clay (I think that's his name?). So by that reasoning, the Sheriff can't be the killer. But who knows, maybe the Sheriff and Wakefield are in cahoots together?

madison could have been taken by the sheriff, but that don't mean he's the killer.

Correct, cole is the one who set up traps on his property. If I remember every time they show the no trespassing sign and someone gets injured, it's coles trap and not the killer? I dunno.

I keep on thinking that henry and abby might be related blood wise, that's why they never had a relationship, or that's what they were told. Maybe that's why their "relationship is complicated" We still know nothing about Henry mother. While his dad was mentioned a few times.

are they ever gonna find lucy's burnt up remains?

okay now who gonna blame the gardener!:D

^ My latest money is on the Innkeeper.

I'm gonna go with Abby's mom did have a kid from Wakefield - an older brother who is the current killer.

I'm gonna go with Abby's mom did have a kid from Wakefield - an older brother who is the current killer.

OK. What's his motive?

^ My latest money is on the Innkeeper.

I've been leaning a bit that way too. They seem to be featuring her more lately. The problem is she is just not in the kind of physical shape to be pulling this off.

I'm gonna go with Abby's mom did have a kid from Wakefield - an older brother who is the current killer.

Or Henry is the kid Wakefield had, and he's seeking revenge against all who wronged him.

for those keeping score weapons/clues from the candlewick inn

rev died right after visit from inn keeper
the shotgun that killed hunter on the boat from the inn
matches used to burn lucy from the inn
beth killed at the inn
gardening sheers killed Katherine at the inn

I've been leaning a bit that way too. They seem to be featuring her more lately. The problem is she is just not in the kind of physical shape to be pulling this off.

Well, she is secretly the jilted lover of Wakefield who is pissed that he had an affair with Abby's mom.

Unknown to everyone is that the innkeeper had a son by Wakefield and he is mad at his half-sister Abby whom he blames for the death of his father.

You know, I wrote that as a joke---but I kind of like it as a theory. :D

Yeah, look... Abby's not the kid and the Sherriff isn't the killer. Way, way too predicatable. It's just like Scream. Madison is just plain creepy and we already know she'll lie to people. And seriously, if you're Abby, isn't the FIRST thing you do ask her a lot of questions about who the hell took her? *shrug*

For a while, I thought that maybe the innkeeper did it. She was acting kind of funny. But there's no way she could get into the tunnels.

So my current suspect is Jimmy. Again, following the "Scream" plot, that would make the most sense.

I still need more clues. No theories, motive, very unlikely guess is that the missing deputy from the original attack on wakefield.

OK....here's what bothers me about this episode....people are being gruesomly murdered left and right and the state police will be "coming in the morning"!!?!?!?

Don't the state police have boats with lights? GPS? This isn't the Bering Sea in January they're navigating....why wouldn't they be out there ASAP?

based on the previews looks like we'll learn more about the inn. I find it strange that there is no pulley system in the crawl spaces. They used them a lot to get the liquor from the docks to the inn. To me Beth looks like she was dragged thru those compartments, she was facing upward instead of down that usually indicate a crawl.

I used to live on a small island, it don't seem that unusual re the state police. I mean they are 40 miles away from mainland. It sucks, sometime you're stuck on the island because of weather.

I bet the Sheriff has a twin - who is Abby's father, and insane, btw. His brother has been tracking him as Sheriff, unaware it's his brother.

I bet the Sheriff has a twin - who is Abby's father, and insane, btw. His brother has been tracking him as Sheriff, unaware it's his brother.

No, the twin is over at THE CW helping out on SUPERNATURAL.:)

OK....here's what bothers me about this episode....people are being gruesomly murdered left and right and the state police will be "coming in the morning"!!?!?!??That's bothered me for a while.

So how many days have the 8 (is it 8?) episodes covered?

No, the twin is over at THE CW helping out on SUPERNATURAL.:)

Funny. That was my first reaction when I saw him, "Hey, what's Bobby doing over here!"

Funny. That was my first reaction when I saw him, "Hey, what's Bobby doing over here!"How about Henry as, um, Henry on Ugly Betty?

That's bothered me for a while.

So how many days have the 8 (is it 8?) episodes covered?

My feeling was that it has only been 2 or 3 days.

pilot: 2pm (boat leaves dock) to night, 1 dy
episode 2-4, morning to night, 3 days
episode 5: morning to e.afternoon 1/2 day
episode 6: e.afternoon to night 1/2 day
episode 7: morning to afternoon 1/2 day
episode 8: 4pm to night 1/4 day
episode 9: late night to morning 1/4 day

No, the twin is over at THE CW helping out on SUPERNATURAL.:)

...and their other brother is living in DEADWOOD. ;)

...and their other brother is living in DEADWOOD. ;)

I believe I saw his other brother with JOHN in CINCINNATI.;)

I hate to admit it, but all week I have thought about the next episode of this show. Is it Saturday yet?:)

Well, so much for "The Sheriff done it"; "The Innkeeper done it"!

In an amazing twist, the copycat killer of the Wakefield murders is.....

I hate to admit it, but all week I have thought about the next episode of this show. Is it Saturday yet?:)

Yeah, I found myself midweek thinking about the upcoming episode. Now we have a whole week before the next one.

Interesting turn of events this episode. Wakefield is back and the possibility of an accomplice. It's heatin' up on the island.

It's nice to be able to watch with HD On Demand.

We get episode 11 next week and then a week off for the 4th before the final two episodes on back to back weeks.

This is a good series and one we will probably see on Sleuth and/or chiiller down the line.

I was thinking before the second half that Jimmy was the killer only because his body had not been found. The second half of the show makes me (almost) convinced that it is Wakefield and Jimmy acting together. Jimmy does not appear to have any wounds and is now inflitrated with the victims, and ABBY has not been in any danger although she was in the tunnels and out in the open many times. Agree or disagree?

It's nice to be able to watch with HD On Demand.

We get episode 11 next week and then a week off for the 4th before the final two episodes on back to back weeks.

And just in time for BIG BROTHER.:)

I was thinking before the second half that Jimmy was the killer only because his body had not been found. The second half of the show makes me (almost) convinced that it is Wakefield and Jimmy acting together. Jimmy does not appear to have any wounds and is now inflitrated with the victims, and ABBY has not been in any danger although she was in the tunnels and out in the open many times. Agree or disagree?

The promo for next week makes it seem like Jimmy's guilty (just like they did the sheriff in the promo the week before) - so it's not going to be him.

The promo for next week makes it seem like Jimmy's guilty (just like they did the sheriff in the promo the week before) - so it's not going to be him.

Unless they do the old, "make you think it is him with misleading promos so you think it couldn't be him so it actually winds up being him" trick. :D

I still think the killer could be booth. I'm not convinced he died from the gun shot to the leg.

I like that they showed the pulley system.

I like that they showed the pulley system.

That kinda confused me. Unless I just didn't see it on him when he was talking to Abby, how did the sheriff get the noose around his neck?

What, did he get yanked out the window and just happen to fall into it?

That kinda confused me. Unless I just didn't see it on him when he was talking to Abby, how did the sheriff get the noose around his neck?

What, did he get yanked out the window and just happen to fall into it?

Well, for those who remember Rube Goldberg, I suspect the pulley yanked him out the window and was threaded through a waiting noose which then competed its task. Yeah, right. ;)

yeah, when he was pulled you can see the noose. but when talking to abby you just see that his hands were bound.

It's terrible that this show/format was not a success. I'd love to have a new self contained 13 episode mystery serial every year. specially if every episode gets broadcast.

It's terrible that this show/format was not a success. I'd love to have a new self contained 13 episode mystery serial every year. specially if every episode gets broadcast.

Remeber the show MURDER ONE a few years back? It starred the bald headed guy who was Sipowitz's nemises as a defense attorney. As I recall, they did three separate consecutive multi episode stories in one season. It, of course, was canceled.

It's terrible that this show/format was not a success. I'd love to have a new self contained 13 episode mystery serial every year. specially if every episode gets broadcast.

I'm with you. As goofy as Harper's Island is [e.g. "Well Abby, I shot Wakefield but I didn't actually kill him so I just put some random body into his grave and pretended he was dead, all the while knowing this lunatic who murdered my wife and your mother was really out there somewhere, pissed, and just waiting for an opportunity to kill everybody in sight. My bad."], it is better than watching some of those idiotic reality shows that pass for entertainment. This is fairly well paced, has a mystery and hooked me from episode one.

For a format like this to work, though, you are absolutely correct that the network has to commit to showing every episode. Despite throwing it into the "dead zone" of Saturday, I do give CBS credit for at least following through with the commitment to air everything.

I do give CBS credit for at least following through with the commitment to air everything.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Thank you CBS.

A few years back... Murder One was over 10 years ago. Patricia Clarkson, Stanly Tucci, I did watch it, heck I think I still have it on tape!

Well, my theory that Jimmy is the killer is 1/2 alive. I know the whole argument that they obviously set him up so he wouldn't be, but that doesn't mean he isn't. After all, why would Wafefield bother with any "deal"? The Sheriff was dead either way.

Well, my theory that Jimmy is the killer is 1/2 alive. I know the whole argument that they obviously set him up so he wouldn't be, but that doesn't mean he isn't. After all, why would Wafefield bother with any "deal"? The Sheriff was dead either way.


I don't think we can rule out the "Jimmy is Wakefield's son" theory quite yet :D

screencap of rope

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=145966&d=1245648835

I'm thinking the bartender (Nikki?) is the accomplice....and she is Wakefield's daughter.

That would be cool.

I do give CBS credit for at least following through with the commitment to air everything.

Yes. Thank you CBS.[/QUOTE]
Well that is not true about CBS, at least not the local DFW station.

They aired a local double A league baseball game (no joke).
There was no importance to the game that I could tell.

I DVR'd it and started to watch it 20 minutes into it and was shocked to see the ball game on.

I have Directv so I have the national feed and watch it but missed the first 20 minutes.

What makes no sense is to cancel an entire nights program for the game.

I have lived here in the DFW area for 10 years and do not recall this happening.

I always tape my national programs from the OTA as weather here can play havoc with the Directv antenna.

Anybody else have a episode not air ?

Greg

There are places to catch a past episode, ie NETFLIX and CBS.com. You would think your local station would reschedule the broadcast, or, God forbid, utilize the new technology and simulcast on a subchannel.

I'd e-mail the station at the very least. They probably don't have a clue that it is a mini series. You can't be alone; not in an area your size. In my area (Tampa) some times an independent station airs a network program in case of a conflicting sporting event.

I'm always glad I have multiple broadcast sources, I get this show on both Global and CBS.

Well that is not true about CBS, at least not the local DFW station.

They aired a local double A league baseball game (no joke).
There was no importance to the game that I could tell.

I DVR'd it and started to watch it 20 minutes into it and was shocked to see the ball game on.

I have Directv so I have the national feed and watch it but missed the first 20 minutes.

What makes no sense is to cancel an entire nights program for the game.

I have lived here in the DFW area for 10 years and do not recall this happening.

I always tape my national programs from the OTA as weather here can play havoc with the Directv antenna.

Anybody else have a episode not air ?

Greg
Sure you weren't watching the wrong channel? Those games are normally on sister station KTXA, which just so happened to take over KTVT's old channel 19 broadcast location when KTVT moved to 11 on 6/12. It's quite likely that if you didn't rescan and pick up KTVT's new broadcast location that your DVR recorded the wrong channel, giving you the Frisco RoughRiders game on KTXA instead of CBS programming on KTVT.

Sure you weren't watching the wrong channel? Those games are normally on sister station KTXA, which just so happened to take over KTVT's old channel 19 broadcast location when KTVT moved to 11 on 6/12. It's quite likely that if you didn't rescan and pick up KTVT's new broadcast location that your DVR recorded the wrong channel, giving you the Frisco RoughRiders game on KTXA instead of CBS programming on KTVT.
No.
As I said I tape the series and I played it at 20 minutes into it to skip the commercials.

The banner said Harpers Island in fact they did not show the next program either (48 hours) I think and the banner said 48 hours also.

I guess it was a broadcasting screwup. Cannot believe that the advertisers would be happy.
It was in 4:3 formant and the quality was poor.

Greg

What banner are you talking about?

What banner are you talking about?
The directv banner.

Sorry if I confused you, it is the info banner that comes on for a few seconds when channels are changed or the info button is hit.

Greg

KTVT moved from 19 to 11, KTXA moved from 18 to 19. Your box wasn't updated after the analog shutoff, so it still thought KTVT was on 19. It recorded 19, getting what was actually KTXA's broadcast of the baseball game. The DirecTV guide info doesn't come from the OTA broadcast, it comes from the satellite, and since it thought it was recording KTVT, it showed you the data for KTVT. It's the same situation as everyone else who didn't rescan, except that because another channel took over the slot instead of it just going dark entirely, you got the wrong channel instead of "no signal".

KTVT moved from 19 to 11, KTXA moved from 18 to 19. Your box wasn't updated after the analog shutoff, so it still thought KTVT was on 19. It recorded 19, getting what was actually KTXA's broadcast of the baseball game. The DirecTV guide info doesn't come from the OTA broadcast, it comes from the satellite, and since it thought it was recording KTVT, it showed you the data for KTVT. It's the same situation as everyone else who didn't rescan, except that because another channel took over the slot instead of it just going dark entirely, you got the wrong channel instead of "no signal".
Thanks !

I use an OTA antenna into the Directv for my locals and that is the station I use to record. 11-1.
Simple because of the bad weather I know that there is a better chance if we are out that it will record.

I will rescan and hopefully that will end it.

Thanks again

Greg

Well, my wife and I are still enjoying this.

The most annoying thing though for both of us is they all completely pretend cell phones don't exist (even though they've received text messages and whatnot). My favorite scene was where the dad was harpooned onto the pier-thing, and Abby gets a call from the little girl on her cell phone. Two minutes later they are running around the Inn yelling about the phone lines being cut.

Then this week when the two guys make a run for it in the car, they don't take a phone with them? So their best plan is to blow the airhorn when they get the sailboat around?

Did I miss something about Wakefield blowing up the island's only cell phone tower?

I also didn't quite understand why they molotov-cocktailed the pickup? Just to light up the area and alert the sniper that they were going to be making a run for it? That was very considerate of them, I suppose.

Anyways, despite the riciulousness of it all, we still are enjoying it.

I thought they said before that cell phones were out. That's why they were surprised when the dad's phone was ringing (I think). The moltov cocktail was supposedly to create smoke to screen them from the sniper. I agree, seems like a bad plan to me ;) Poor Kal. I really had high hopes of him surviving.

yep, limited cell phone coverage on the island and power loss. I keep on thinking that the phantom messages/calls was on the emergency band which can usually operate independent of carrier. Lighting up the truck was most likely bad, since it was dark, wo power, it was very hard for to see. easier to pick people off with a backlight of fire.

Poor Kal. I really had high hopes of him surviving.

You must have missed next weeks preview then. Seems to have healed up pretty well. I like his character as well.

Art