View Full Version : What if I don't follow the break in process?


MahouTensai
04-04-09, 08:01 PM
About to receive my first plasma hdtv... read about the break-in dvd/images for sd-card to use for the first 200 hours... read on here about precautions that should be taken the first 200 hours like set contrast lower than 50...

What if I don't follow these 'rules'? I imagine alot of people use this forum and know about this... but I also imagine there's about 562896956754 million more people, as a figure of speech, that do not know about these things, bought an expensive plasma tv, don't use or know of break-in dvds, immediately set the settings of the tv to their tastes and watch or use it for whatever and however they like... so they've all had their tvs destroyed within days then? :eek:

gizlaroc
04-04-09, 08:08 PM
It's all a load of crap.

I have owned over a dozen plasmas and only the NEC XM3 and the Pioneer 436 suffered from retention, let alone screen burn.

I just left the Singstar game on my Pioneer over night, played for 5 hours and then went to bed drunk and left the game running all night from 2am till I got up, some retention but gone after watching TV for 2 minutes.

That was constrast on 38 in PURE mode so hardly taking it easy.

Just set the screen up to look good and you will be fine.

Unless you have bough some cheap piece of tat of course. ;)

tigerfan33
04-04-09, 08:08 PM
Break it in by watching. Hell of a way to both break it in and enjoy it at the same time.

James W. Johnson
04-04-09, 08:22 PM
Break it in by watching.

By watching porn, lots and lots of it. Do this for week and while your wrist may be sore your TV will be broken in nicely.

sadmaker
04-04-09, 08:26 PM
Everyone has their own opinion. The way I see it, I spent alot of $$ on my set, so I probably wont die if I take a week or two out of my viewing to possibly avoid future IR problems. Better safe than sorry.

BTW, break-in times vary. Some suggest 100 hours, other 120, 150, etc. There's no hard and fast rule.

tigerfan33
04-04-09, 08:33 PM
By watching porn, lots and lots of it. Do this for week and while your wrist may be sore your TV will be broken in nicely.

:D:p:D

discopaul
04-04-09, 09:05 PM
By watching porn, lots and lots of it. Do this for week and while your wrist may be sore your TV will be broken in nicely.

Agreed. Don't forget to fill the entire screen with it. It'll do you and your plasma good. :cool:

James W. Johnson
04-04-09, 09:25 PM
Agreed. Don't forget to fill the entire screen with it. It'll do you and your plasma good. :cool:

lol, id recommend using a rag or towel. Keep if off the screen. :D:p

gizlaroc
04-05-09, 10:14 AM
lol, id recommend using a rag or towel. Keep if off the screen. :D:p


There is always one that takes it too far!! :D

mooshoo
04-05-09, 11:43 AM
It wouldn't hurt to follow break-in procedures, but it's not necessary. Make sure to mix up your viewing. Leave it on full screen mode, avoid having any channel logos or static images for a long time. Myself, I just bought a Panny 58" and straight out of the box I dialed the contrast down for about 2 weeks of mixed viewing, then dialed it back up again. The reason I chose not to follow the 'break-in', is because of the extra wear and tear associated with it.

mattg3
04-05-09, 11:51 AM
Wear and tear but what a great chance to put the unit through torture test to see if anything is wrong before you cant return it

PrimeTime
04-05-09, 01:02 PM
Like everything else here, there are differing recommendations on what to do during the "break-in" period. Some say turn everything down low. Others who are "preconditioning" the set for calibration use full-screen solid colors to exercise all of the phosphors. Still others say ignore any break-in, full speed ahead.

My conclusion is that there's nothing to be gained by turning down the color/picture settings from the get-go, but it's a good idea to try and avoid black bars (non-full-screen) viewing and static logos for the first week or so.

After that, you need to check out how your display is dealing with black bars, etc. to determine if its resistance to image retention is something you can live with and manage -- before your purchase return period expires.

speedking
04-05-09, 01:31 PM
About to receive my first plasma hdtv... read about the break-in dvd/images for sd-card to use for the first 200 hours... read on here about precautions that should be taken the first 200 hours like set contrast lower than 50...

What if I don't follow these 'rules'? I imagine alot of people use this forum and know about this... but I also imagine there's about 562896956754 million more people, as a figure of speech, that do not know about these things, bought an expensive plasma tv, don't use or know of break-in dvds, immediately set the settings of the tv to their tastes and watch or use it for whatever and however they like... so they've all had their tvs destroyed within days then? :eek:


Resistance is futile. We will add your technological distinctiveness to our forum. Your life, as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service the forum. You will be assimilated.......OR


You can merely run your plasma in the full screen mode for a reasonable time(no mandate, but 2 weeks is good)frame. Your settings are YOUR settings. If you want some guidelines, use the settings of other members, BUT it's not necessary to follow anyone's settings. YOU will be viewing YOUR display, not THEM.

pdxjazz
04-05-09, 04:56 PM
An interesting article from Pioneer on the subject.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3424/273087528Pioneer%20DTV%20White%20Paper%20-%20FINAL.pdf

James W. Johnson
04-05-09, 05:18 PM
An interesting article from Pioneer on the subject.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3424/273087528Pioneer%20DTV%20White%20Paper%20-%20FINAL.pdf


Yes it is, thanks for posting it.


Every plasma owner should read it!!!!


Here is the conclusion on that paper..............




CONCLUSION

The commonly held beliefs about the viability and performance quality of plasma TVs
turn out to be merely myths when held up to the discerning eye of quantifiable testing.
In particular, concerns about plasma lifetimes and image retention ("burn in") are halftruths
that may have been legitimate concerns for early generations of plasma
displays, but are non-issues with today’s current generation products. Yes, plasmas
may show signs of retention if still images are left on the display for very long periods
of time (such as 24 hours or more), but even in this extreme example, the result is
only temporary. Today’s plasma TVs essentially heal themselves with subsequent
viewing of regular TV material. As a result, more common scenarios of 5 to 10 minute
(or even several hour) image pauses will not cause permanent damage.
When it comes to image quality and accuracy across wide viewing angles, plasmas
perform very well, enabling a consistent viewing experience anywhere within a room.
Color accuracy and black levels, both of which are critical to create an accurate, rich
image, are also very strong on plasma TVs. In fact, the plasmas that were tested
actually outperformed the reference CRT on black level and nearly matched it on
color accuracy. Videophiles and other consumers who value a high-quality image
should really appreciate these results. The contrast ratios on plasma TVs may not
reach the high levels touted by some other TV technologies, but as explained earlier,
the value of a contrast ratio without an accompanying black level is questionable.
It’s also worth noting that the testing did not cover response time (because of the
controversies surrounding how to accurately, fairly, and consistently measure it),
which is generally perceived as an advantage that plasma displays have over TVs
using other technologies.



The challenge for vendors is to adequately convey accurate information on the realworld
capabilities of today’s generation plasma TVs and to overcome many of the
objections potential buyers may still have based on lingering and pervasive myths
and inaccurate "prejudices" against the technology. Certainly plasma TVs cannot and
will not be the ultimate choice for all TV buyers, but for those who want a very highquality
image and can afford the purchase costs, they represent a very compelling
option.

richpat
04-05-09, 05:37 PM
Every LCD owner should read the conclusion of the test in the above post and rethink their buying decision the next time around.

I have tried breaking in new plasmas with the disk and without and have never noticed a discernible difference. I am very careful about image retention but after reading the article, I think I may be wasting my time worrying as my worst sin is watching hours of football (which my wife equates to porn).

James W. Johnson
04-05-09, 05:41 PM
my worst sin is watching hours of football (which my wife equates to porn).

:D:D:D:p:D:D:D

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

James W. Johnson
04-05-09, 05:48 PM
Read this part:


In order to better understand the results, it’s important to know a bit about how the
human eye works. Unlike the equipment used to take measurements for these tests,
our eyes are not equally sensitive to all frequencies (colors) of light. Notably, our eyes
are more sensitive to red as compared to blue and green. As such, although ISF
tested the color capabilities of all nine TVs, we report more on how the "reds" fared
than other colors. Similarly, our eyes are very aware of blacks and different levels of
black (or gray) and are more sensitive to changes in black than changes in white. The
©2005 IDC # 3
amount of "black" in a video image, therefore, has a profound impact on the range of
colors that are visible to our eyes. Contrast ratio, on the other hand, which essentially
measures the difference between the black and white signals, is not a good indicator
of image quality. Displays with high contrast ratios may still look washed out if the
white levels are extremely high, but the black levels are only modestly low.

MahouTensai
04-07-09, 12:23 PM
So I got my 46g10 yesterday and played Lost Odyssey(rpg), fifa09 and streetfighter for hours... not even seen IR (touch wood). Not boasting btw, just saying it seems fine so far...

speedking
04-07-09, 12:29 PM
So I got my 46g10 yesterday and played Lost Odyssey(rpg), fifa09 and streetfighter for hours... not even seen IR (touch wood). Not boasting btw, just saying it seems fine so far...

Just enjoy it and never look back(especially on this forum). Congrats!

MahouTensai
04-07-09, 12:32 PM
Just enjoy it and never look back(especially on this forum). Congrats!

thanks alot :D

pixar
04-07-09, 04:12 PM
By watching porn, lots and lots of it. Do this for week and while your wrist may be sore your TV will be broken in nicely.

Priceless!