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Monktrump
04-05-09, 01:00 PM
Cant seem to find the information anywhere so I am asking here.

I have a Samsung 67A750
What exactly would I need to do to view 3D content?
can I simple buy a 3D bluray or dvd and use the supplied glasses or do I need to buy a kit?
Do I need the Kit from Samsung?
Do I need Software or more Hardware ALONG with that kit?


If I need to use a PC, will my Specs work?
AMD Phenom2 Quad Core 920 2.8 GHZ
4GB Memory
Asus - M3A78-Em Motherboard with ATI HD 3200 780G

saunupe1911
04-05-09, 01:10 PM
Good question with all the new 3D movies coming out in 2009 and 2010

SgtVideo
04-05-09, 01:36 PM
From the Samsung site:

SSG1000 3D Kit for Plasma and DLP HDTV


3D Kit for Plasma and DLP

Unlock the 3-D capability of the latest Samsung DLP® and Plasma HDTVs by purchasing the 3-D Starter Pack! After connecting a suitable PC or home media center to the Samsung 3-D DLP or Plasma HDTV and plugging the transmitter into the HDTV, install DDD’s TriDef® 3-D Experience software, put on the lightweight wireless 3-D glasses, and you’re ready to enjoy a wide range of 3-D content. The 3-D Starter Pack includes software that enables any 2-D DVD to be viewed in 3-D in real-time, with controls that allow the 3-D effect to be adjusted. Applications such as Google EarthTM can be viewed in 3-D, as well as the latest PC games!

UPC Code : 036725228566
Key Features:
One pair of wireless 3d glasses

One wireless 3D transmitter

Enjoy 3D photo and video content

Links to buy the latest 3D content

Play a PC game in 3D

See Google Earth in 3D
Size:
Glasses:
Folded: 6.7" x 2.6" x 2.1"
Unfolded: 6.7" x 6.6" x 2.1"

Emitter: 2.2" x 3.8" x 1.1"
Key Specs:
Requires suitable PC & graphics card.

PC must be connected to TV via HDMI

Recommend Intel Core 2 Duo or AthlonTM 64 X2 Dual-Core CPU

Recommend NVIDIA® GeForce 6600 or ATI RadeonTM X800

Windows® XP, Vista 32 bit recommended

Sisyphus
04-05-09, 01:40 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1114654

http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=3

Short answer is you can watch anaglyph (red/blue) content with glasses supplied with anaglyph blu-rays such as Hannah Montana, Polar Express, Journey to Center of Earth. However, color and 3d quality of anaglyph is pretty poor.

If you want quality you will need to purchase a set of shutter glasses and necessary software such as Tridef media player or Stereoscopic player. The Tridef software can do real time conversion of 2d to 3d but quality will vary a lot as it is "guessing" what the 3d image should look like. Both Stereoscopic player and Tridef will play true stereoscopic content but Stereoscopic Player is a little easier to use in this department.

True stereoscopic movie content is very limited right now so you have to decide if it's worth it. Supposedly in 2010 Panasonic will have a 3D blu-ray player so it may be better to just wait. I've read they want 3D blu-ray to be ready when James Cameron's Avatar hit's blu-ray.

However if you are a gamer this by itself is a good reason to go 3D. Nvidia now has their own shutterglasses and drivers for many games, and their shutterglasses will work just fine with your dlp tv...however you do need a Nvidia graphics card.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_GeForce_3D_VisionKit_us.html

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showforum=40

DDD and Iz3d also have game drivers that are compatible with ATI cards but not sure about compatibility with Nvidia glasses. You might need different glasses for their drivers. Here are a couplel links to reviews of other glasses:

http://3droundup.com/2009/01/shades-of-glory/

http://www.bedfordbraces.com/reviews/samsungssg1000review.htm

Teknomedic
05-29-10, 11:29 AM
Gonna drag this up from the dead...

I've got this same TV and with all the "new" 3D talk like the PS3 and 3D blu-ray going on recently...

Can I simply purchase the kit and will my Sammy work with this stuff (ie, 3D Blu and PS3 games, PC 3D and perhaps bordcast 3D??), or is all this 3D talk a "newer" standard that my TV technically doesn't support since it was released before the 3D talk really took off?

Sorry for the noobish question and request for clarification.

Teknomedic
05-29-10, 11:53 AM
found some extra info for us "legacy" 3D DLP owners...

http://hdguru.com/legacy-samsung-3d-tv-owners-will-soon-be-able-to-view-3d-blu-ray-discs-and-3d-directv/1386/

PaulGo
05-29-10, 11:00 PM
Unfortunately the Mitsubishi adapter has benn designed NOT to work with Samsung DLP TVs - it could have but Mitsubishi decided to put special coding in it to prevent it from working.

Samsung Legacy 3D TVs are Not Compatible with Mitsubishi’s New 3D Converter
(May 6, 2010) Mitsubishi’s soon to be launched HD converter box permits viewing a 3D HD Blu-ray player, 3D cable or satellite signal on any of its 3D ready HDTVs. The 3DC-1000, which debuted at the January 2010 consumer electronics show, converts HD 3D content to the checkerboard format used in all Mitsubishi 3D ready HDTV rear projectors produced since 2007.

In 2007 and 2008 Samsung offered 3D ready HDTVs for PC gaming that used the same checkerboard format. Recently, Mitsubishi decided to modify the 3DC-1000 to restrict compatibility to its own TVs, via the EDID identification data sent along with the HDMI signal.

According to Mitsubishi’s director of product planning David Naranjo, the 3DC-1000 converter will not accept the ID from these Samsung 3D ready HDTVs and so won’t pass the 3D signal in high definition.

Note: Mitsubishi never announced its converter would be compatible with 3D capable TVs other than its own.

http://hdguru.com/samsung-legacy-3d-tvs-are-not-compatible-with-mitsubishis-new-3d-converter/1577/

taz291819
05-30-10, 07:21 PM
For 3D Blu-Ray, pick up the Panasonic player, since it outputs the checkerboard format. You'll then need a pair of shutter glasses and an emitter, or the Xpand X102 glasses, which don't need an emitter.

MiahXgaming
06-20-10, 05:30 PM
Just got back from an awesome E3, came home looking forward to trying out 3D on my Sammy...but it's not working.

I downloaded MotorStorm Pacific Rift 3D demo, and the "Play in 3D" option is grayed out. I have a 3D dongle plugged into the TV.

Anyone get 3D to work on this TV with PS3?

EDIT: This looks bad: http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=1&PG_ID=0&AT_ID=277122&PROD_SUB_ID=0&PROD_ID=153

DLP TV : Can I View 2010 3D Content On My 3D DLP TV?

New 3D devices (such as BluRay Player and Cable Boxes) have been released in 2010 that use different methods of transmitting 3D signals than the 3D DLP TVs released in 2007 and 2008 accept. Due to this, Samsung 3D DLP TVs are not compatible with newly released 3D devices.

Samsung 3D DLP TVs were designed for 3D gaming from a PC using a checkerboard format signal. 3D DLP TVs are currently only compatible with Windows PCs running TriDef 3D software. Click here to visit the TriDef website for more information.

LordRasta
06-22-10, 09:36 AM
I also have the HL67A750 and want to do some 3D, but not PC or PC gaming, only what limited movies are available with a Panasonic DMP-BDT300. Since there is only one port for the emitter on the television, is it correct to assume that multiple glasses (say 4) can work off the same emitter?

MiahXgaming
06-22-10, 09:58 AM
I also have the HL67A750 and want to do some 3D, but not PC or PC gaming, only what limited movies are available with a Panasonic DMP-BDT300. Since there is only one port for the emitter on the television, is it correct to assume that multiple glasses (say 4) can work off the same emitter?

I can answer that one; yes one emitter will run as many wireless glasses as you can fit in the room. It just sends an IR signal to the glasses.

LordRasta
06-22-10, 10:01 AM
I can answer that one; yes one emitter will run as many wireless glasses as you can fit in the room. It just sends an IR signal to the glasses.

Sweet! Thanks for the reply.

Paul S Penny
06-22-10, 11:23 AM
Just got my HL67A750 + Panny BDT350 + Xpand X102 combo working yesterday.

I see 3D!!!

Only issue is some ghosting - not quite sure what the cause is - much better in TV 3D mode 2 than in mode 1, but still present. It's not horrible, but it's there, and everyone can see it. I know I'm on the bleeding edge here (like I was with my HTPC and Hipix card in 2000 LOL) but wondering if anyone else has tackled this and has any thoughts on tweaks to address the ghosting with this combo.

If the ghosting were eliminated, it would be PERFECT.

Paul S Penny
06-22-10, 11:38 AM
SOLVED!!! Found Joel's solution in another thread - rename input to PC and it's PERFECT!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=18479904&postcount=31

OMG I'm a happy camper!

LordRasta
06-22-10, 12:20 PM
SOLVED!!! Found Joel's solution in another thread - rename input to PC and it's PERFECT!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=18479904&postcount=31

OMG I'm a happy camper!

You have got to be kidding.... I don't have the player or glasses yet but I'm renaming my input as soon as I get home. I can't believe renaming the input clears up the ghosting but hey whatever works. :)

Paul S Penny
06-23-10, 07:35 AM
I couldn't believe it either... but it works. Changes the overscan mode or some such thing...

taz291819
06-23-10, 10:41 AM
I couldn't believe it either... but it works. Changes the overscan mode or some such thing...

It changes the brightness, contrast, and gives it a slight blue shift. But yes, it definitely fixes the ghosting problem.

fourakind
06-29-10, 08:47 AM
Does the Panasonic DMP-BDT300 also output a checkerboard signal like the DMP-BDT350 ?

PaulGo
06-29-10, 09:50 AM
does the panasonic dmp-bdt300 also output a checkerboard signal like the dmp-bdt350 ?

yes!

fourakind
06-29-10, 08:21 PM
yes!

Thanks, I might go for the less expensive player to get 3d on my HL67A750 :)

PaulGo
06-29-10, 08:55 PM
You can buy the dmp-btd350 on the internet for less than the dmp-bdt300 since the 300 is only sold as Best Buy.

pjb16
06-29-10, 09:03 PM
You can buy the dmp-btd350 on the internet for less than the dmp-bdt300 since the 300 is only sold as Best Buy.

Yup, I found the 350 for $350 shipped.

domingos1965
06-29-10, 09:04 PM
what exactly do i need to watch 3D on this tv besides a 3D bluray player?

PaulGo
06-29-10, 09:54 PM
The glasses - the Xpand X102 will work without an emitter - they pick up the sync signal from the TV screen. Only the HDMI input number 3 is 3D compatible for best results I have read that you need to label the input as PC.

bferr1
06-30-10, 12:18 PM
67A750/X102 user here. How do you minimize/eliminate reddish tint to the blacks?

LordRasta
06-30-10, 01:09 PM
I got 4 SSG1000's today and hopefully the BDT300 will be here before the end of the week. I found a very helpful chap in England who had 31 brand new SSG1000's and sold them all within 10 days. I guess we'll be watching Cloudy/Meatballs over and over. And over. :)

bferr1
06-30-10, 01:26 PM
I got 4 SSG1000's today and hopefully the BDT300 will be here before the end of the week. I found a very helpful chap in England who had 31 brand new SSG1000's and sold them all within 10 days. I guess we'll be watching Cloudy/Meatballs over and over. And over. :)I ordered two SSG1000s from England five weeks ago and still haven't received them! I got tired of waiting and bought two X102s. I'm not entirely satisfied with the reddish blacks I see and I'm hopeful that the SSG1000s fare better. Any chance you can check black level on the demo disc included with the BDT300?

Paul S Penny
06-30-10, 09:55 PM
67A750/X102 user here. How do you minimize/eliminate reddish tint to the blacks?

With my setup, the tint is only noticeable sans glasses - with the x102's on, we don't notice it.

But I haven't found a way (outside of service menu) to adjust color, picture, tint etc in 3D mode.

taz291819
06-30-10, 10:39 PM
I ordered two SSG1000s from England five weeks ago and still haven't received them! I got tired of waiting and bought two X102s. I'm not entirely satisfied with the reddish blacks I see and I'm hopeful that the SSG1000s fare better. Any chance you can check black level on the demo disc included with the BDT300?

I checked my X102s last night regarding the reddish tint in blacks. Yes, it's still there, but only when I was really looking for it.

With our displays, I don't think there is any way around it. And not to mention, it's not like there are any 3D calibration discs on the market either.

Basically, it is what it is with our displays. The 3D looks fantastic, and yes, if you look hard enough, you'll see some color-shift.

Teknomedic
07-05-10, 04:11 AM
wow... thanks for all the great information and keeping this alive. I reloaded the page figuring there wouldn't be any new info and found that the opposite was true.

Sounds like 3D PS3 gaming is out.... but 3D movies from a few special Blu players will work (as well as some PC 3D gaming if you're inclined to do that setup)

eddy_winds
07-06-10, 11:15 AM
Samsung Legacy 3D TVs are Compatible with Mitsubishi’s New 3D Converter

If...You get the kit


3D TV Adapter KIT for Samsung 3D DLP HDTV

tru3d (http://www.tru3d.com/products/view_product.php?id=31003)

Buy it for $ 289.99

PaulGo
07-06-10, 02:57 PM
Samsung Legacy 3D TVs are Compatible with Mitsubishi’s New 3D Converter

If...You get the kit


3D TV Adapter KIT for Samsung 3D DLP HDTV

tru3d (http://www.tru3d.com/products/view_product.php?id=31003)

Buy it for $ 289.99


Maybe we can do a power buy?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1261100

LordRasta
07-06-10, 07:01 PM
Samsung Legacy 3D TVs are Compatible with Mitsubishi’s New 3D Converter

If...You get the kit


3D TV Adapter KIT for Samsung 3D DLP HDTV

tru3d (http://www.tru3d.com/products/view_product.php?id=31003)

Buy it for $ 289.99

How many HDMI inputs does it have? In other words could you hook-up a STB, blu-ray and PS3?

LordRasta
07-06-10, 07:04 PM
Got the BDT300 today and I have 3D! My daughter and I watched Cloudy with SSG1000 glasses and it was great. No ghosting or anything. You lose sync pretty easy when you look away but it will sync right back quickly when you look directly at the screen/emitter.

PaulGo
07-06-10, 07:14 PM
How many HDMI inputs does it have? In other words could you hook-up a STB, blu-ray and PS3?

One input - you need an external switcher.

bitemymac
07-06-10, 09:12 PM
Samsung Legacy 3D TVs are Compatible with Mitsubishi’s New 3D Converter

If...You get the kit


3D TV Adapter KIT for Samsung 3D DLP HDTV

tru3d (http://www.tru3d.com/products/view_product.php?id=31003)

Buy it for $ 289.99

This is BS! Same kit for Mits is only $99. Does removing Mits labeling cost $189 extra?

It's nice to see they're thinking of samsung TV owners, but it's not nice to rip off people in the process.

Perhaps, I'll just wait for a hack on the Mits 3D box or wait for another vendor to make the kit cheaper. This is just ridiculous. They should atleast include some 3d shutter glasses for $289.

I am not that desperate for 3D viewing right now, I guess.

golferbradbest
07-06-10, 09:35 PM
you need the geffen detective also or it wont work with the adapter

nickels55
07-06-10, 09:44 PM
I waited this long, and I'll continue to wait until the price is out of the rip-off zone.

PaulGo
07-06-10, 09:51 PM
Considering the technology involved in the Mits converter it is really worth a lot more than $99. Unfortunately Mits decided to limit it technology to Mits DLPs which I think was a mistake. A similar adapter box that only converts one 3D format to checkerboard lists for $500. Perhaps Mits will see the error of its ways and come out with a universal converter for non-Mits sets at a $200 price. This way they can profit for it rather the Gefen and a third party.

fourakind
07-06-10, 10:01 PM
you need the geffen detective also or it wont work with the adapter

Is this it ?
http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=8005

PaulGo
07-06-10, 10:11 PM
Is this it ?
http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=8005

Yes

fourakind
07-07-10, 09:39 PM
One input - you need an external switcher.

What would you recommend ?

LordRasta
07-07-10, 10:14 PM
I know this has probably been asked but I'm late to the game. :) I have HDMI3 labeled PC and when I switch 3D mode on, the screen goes RED. Wearing the SSG1000's you don't see any of the tint. Is this something to be worried about or is it normal? Are there any settings to cut down on this red tint?

PaulGo
07-08-10, 12:02 AM
What would you recommend ?

I don't know - I haven't researched this yet, but I suspect it would have to be a switch that is HDMI 1.4 compliant.

PaulGo
07-08-10, 12:06 AM
I know this has probably been asked but I'm late to the game. :) I have HDMI3 labeled PC and when I switch 3D mode on, the screen goes RED. Wearing the SSG1000's you don't see any of the tint. Is this something to be worried about or is it normal? Are there any settings to cut down on this red tint?

Without glasses the blacks on the screen have a reddish tint in the 3D mode. I believe it is part of the design since I have read about this on other 3D threads.

fourakind
07-08-10, 07:05 PM
I don't know - I haven't researched this yet, but I suspect it would have to be a switch that is HDMI 1.4 compliant.

I've done some quick looking into it, saw prices between $40 and $250.
It's getting expensive to run 3d from say a Bluray player and Directv at the same time.
So far we're looking at a converter with Geffen and an external switcher.....

Nitrox36
07-12-10, 02:48 PM
Ok.. New guy here! Thank god there is a thread for this TV i am soo mad that they discontinued the glasses for this tv. I built a theatre ROOM around this TV. I am not a milloinare and cant spell!!. I have a ps3 and a htpc i bought the nvidia kit and it didnt work i am bout done... what do i need to watch 3d with my ps3,tv,htpc? i am confused please help the newb!!

LordRasta
07-12-10, 06:54 PM
Ok.. New guy here! Thank god there is a thread for this TV i am soo mad that they discontinued the glasses for this tv. I built a theatre ROOM around this TV. I am not a milloinare and cant spell!!. I have a ps3 and a htpc i bought the nvidia kit and it didnt work i am bout done... what do i need to watch 3d with my ps3,tv,htpc? i am confused please help the newb!!

To my knowledge you won't be able to do PS3 in 3D.

buzzard767
07-12-10, 10:16 PM
Just got my HL67A750 + Panny BDT350 + Xpand X102 combo working yesterday.

I see 3D!!!

Only issue is some ghosting - not quite sure what the cause is - much better in TV 3D mode 2 than in mode 1, but still present. It's not horrible, but it's there, and everyone can see it. I know I'm on the bleeding edge here (like I was with my HTPC and Hipix card in 2000 LOL) but wondering if anyone else has tackled this and has any thoughts on tweaks to address the ghosting with this combo.

If the ghosting were eliminated, it would be PERFECT.

SOLVED!!! Found Joel's solution in another thread - rename input to PC and it's PERFECT!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=18479904&postcount=31

OMG I'm a happy camper!

My display is an HL67A750. Today I hooked up a new Panasonic DMP-BDT350 Blu-Ray Player. My glasses are Xpand X102's. I'm happy to report after viewing the Panny Demo disc and Meatballs that the 3D picture is excellent. There is no ghosting, motion blur, or flickering. In fact, I'm now a little leery of the flickering reports I've read for all sorts of displays. When I look at a fairly bright light source there is noticeable flickering but none at all when I can see nothing but the display. With daylight coming through the windows I see flickering out of my peripheral vision only. Once darkness arrives it is no longer there. To make it all work HDMI 3 must be renamed PC and 3D Effects Mode 2 has to be selected.

The above is true regardless of whether dynamic, normal or movie (now labeled "calibration") modes are selected.

There is one thing though that doesn't bother me but it should be addressed. Rainbowing (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1262096). With a light blue, yellow, or white background, especially on the outer quarters of the display, there is a definite rainbow like image. I don't know what causes it but it could be nothing more than the glasses. Those of you with other brands will be able to elaborate. For me, this effect means little and I ignore it and it goes away (in my mind). If you're one of those who wallow in deal breakers like black levels then you aren't going to like rainbowing.

I would love to see my display with another brand of glasses and if they don't produce the same effect I would buy them in addition to the two Xpand 102's I already have. Meanwhile, I'm happy the way things are.

Additionally, I was going to get a large 3D plasma for my winter residence this fall, but after seeing how good the picture is on the DLP I believe I'll likely wind up with a 73 or 82 inch Mitsubishi DLP.

Buzz

Nitrox36
07-13-10, 09:19 AM
WOw thank you, its about time there is a forum that helps out, if i would of known of this one i would havesolved a CRAP load of problems sooner lol. So the only way to see 3d is through the panny? I thought there was a device that will allow the multi hook ups like ps3,etc.

turls
07-13-10, 12:33 PM
My display is an HL67A750. Today I hooked up a new Panasonic DMP-BDT350 Blu-Ray Player. My glasses are Xpand X102's. I'm happy to report after viewing the Panny Demo disc and Meatballs that the 3D picture is excellent. There is no ghosting, motion blur, or flickering. In fact, I'm now a little leery of the flickering reports I've read for all sorts of displays. When I look at a fairly bright light source there is noticeable flickering but none at all when I can see nothing but the display. With daylight coming through the windows I see flickering out of my peripheral vision only. Once darkness arrives it is no longer there. To make it all work HDMI 3 must be renamed PC and 3D Effects Mode 2 has to be selected.

The above is true regardless of whether dynamic, normal or movie (now labeled "calibration") modes are selected.

There is one thing though that doesn't bother me but it should be addressed. Rainbowing (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1262096). With a light blue, yellow, or white background, especially on the outer quarters of the display, there is a definite rainbow like image. I don't know what causes it but it could be nothing more than the glasses. Those of you with other brands will be able to elaborate. For me, this effect means little and I ignore it and it goes away (in my mind). If you're one of those who wallow in deal breakers like black levels then you aren't going to like rainbowing.

I would love to see my display with another brand of glasses and if they don't produce the same effect I would buy them in addition to the two Xpand 102's I already have. Meanwhile, I'm happy the way things are.

Additionally, I was going to get a large 3D plasma for my winter residence this fall, but after seeing how good the picture is on the DLP I believe I'll likely wind up with a 73 or 82 inch Mitsubishi DLP.


HL61A750 here. Just got "Cloudy" and play it on Arcsoft through HTPC. As wonderful as you describe with a Nvidia 3D Vision setup as well.

I have the same rainbowing issues too, as I have all along with gaming with this setup as well. I have not attempted to calibrate the set to reduce the rainbowing, but it is somewhat annoying.

Mounta1n
07-13-10, 06:54 PM
WOw thank you, its about time there is a forum that helps out, if i would of known of this one i would havesolved a CRAP load of problems sooner lol. So the only way to see 3d is through the panny? I thought there was a device that will allow the multi hook ups like ps3,etc.

Yes, you should be able to use the PS3 by using the adapter Mits is making for their DLP tvs, along with a Gefen HDMI detective to spoof the EDID from a Mits TV, so that the adapter will work. Tru3D is selling what appears to be both of these products bundled together, with the HDMI detective already programmed with a Mits EDID for $315 shipped. A few people on here are buying these devices to try them out with their PS3s and the HL6#A750 tvs. It is expected to work, but I would wait for confirmation of that before ordering it.

What was the problem with your Nvidia kit and your HTPC? That should have been compatible with your TV. Which video card do you have in your HTPC?

Nitrox36
07-14-10, 08:48 AM
BFG GeForce 9800 GT 1GB Low Power PCIe
i hooked it all up and i did nothing red screen, and then it was like a split screen of what was playing... was i wrong i called nvidia and they told me it wasnt compatible

Mounta1n
07-14-10, 11:55 AM
BFG GeForce 9800 GT 1GB Low Power PCIe
i hooked it all up and i did nothing red screen, and then it was like a split screen of what was playing... was i wrong i called nvidia and they told me it wasnt compatible

Well, according to their site it should be compatible for games, although it's an older card, and wouldn't be able to handle newer games, especially in 3D since it's essentially twice the work. It's not listed as compatible for 3D Blu-Ray playback though if that is what you tried.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-requirements.html

Were you plugged into HDMI 3 on the TV?

I would probably return the Nvidia kit if you can though, as it isn't compatible with the PS3, DirecTV, or new 3D Blu-ray players (there's some workaround where you leave a loop of 3D material running on the HTPC or something like that, so the emitter will keep working, but it seems kludgy and you would have to leave the PC on the whole time) and I don't know if any of the other available glasses are compatible with its emitter, or if the Nvidia glasses are compatible with any of the other emitters if you were to upgrade your tv or something.

Nitrox36
07-14-10, 02:23 PM
Well i tried the HDMI3 and tv and it just didnt work..
Im hoping to hane something i can go buy and use and be dun with it..lol
After watching avatar in 3D, it made me hungry for the 3d movie and game play. I did in fact get to return the kit thank god. I love this tv it has one of the best pictures i have seen. At least for the ones that dont cost as much as my home!

turls
07-15-10, 09:18 AM
There's a "power buy" in the 3D thread that gives a small discount on this if we get at least 5 to buy from AVS. Just a FYI, if you think it is a rip-off, no need to comment.

Nitrox36
07-15-10, 10:39 AM
what all does it include for how much,

eddy_winds
07-15-10, 10:58 AM
what all does it include for how much,
$299.99


Mitsubishi 3DA-1 Adapter

* 3D Adapter: 1
* AC Power Adapter: 1
* Remote Control: 1
* HDMI Cable: 1
* Sync Interconnect Cable: 1
* Stand for Adapter: 1
* Approximate Weight: 1 lbs

HDMI Tool

* HDMI EDID Tool: 1
* 5V DC Power Supply: 1
* 1-foot HDMI locking cable (M-M): 1
* User's Manual: 1

*this kit does NOT contain 3D glasses

tru3d. (http://www.tru3d.com/products/view_product.php?id=31003&Product=3D%20TV%20Adapter%20KIT%20for%20Samsung%203D%20DLP%2 0HDTV)

taz291819
07-15-10, 11:06 AM
Well i tried the HDMI3 and tv and it just didnt work..
Im hoping to hane something i can go buy and use and be dun with it..lol
After watching avatar in 3D, it made me hungry for the 3d movie and game play. I did in fact get to return the kit thank god. I love this tv it has one of the best pictures i have seen. At least for the ones that dont cost as much as my home!

Connect the HDMI cable from your nvidia card to the HDMI #3 input. Select 1920x1080@60Hz. Make sure overscan is at 0% in the nvidia control panel. A lot of people forget that last step. You may want to run a custom resolution to make up for overscan, 1872x1056 should be good, but once again, make sure scaling is set to 0% (or turned off).

You should then be able to turn the 3D mode on on the Sammy. Hit the tools button on the Sammy remote, it'll be the first option.

You then need a 3D media player (such as Stereoscopic Player, or PowerDVD 10 for 3D Blu-Rays). Also, if you want to play games, you'll need a driver, such as the iz3D driver. Make sure to set the output method to "Checkerboard", sometimes called "DLP 3D-Ready".

Then you'll need a pair of shutter glasses. IO Displays sells a cheap pair for DLPs, which includes an emitter. A better pair, which don't need an emitter, are the Xpand X102s.

Nitrox36
07-19-10, 08:18 AM
Mitsubishi 3DA-1 Adapter
onecall.com has i think that kit for $99.00
is that the same kit your talking about?

taz291819
07-19-10, 12:29 PM
Mitsubishi 3DA-1 Adapter
onecall.com has i think that kit for $99.00
is that the same kit your talking about?

You would still need the "HDMI Tool" aka, "Geffen HDMI Detective".

PaulGo
07-19-10, 12:48 PM
And the Geffen needs to be programmed with the Mitsubishi EDID codes so you need access to a Mitsubishi DLP TV.

Nitrox36
07-20-10, 02:12 PM
well i dont have access to one... so i guess im outta luck!

Nitrox36
07-20-10, 02:49 PM
So what do you suggest is next for me ?

Mounta1n
07-20-10, 02:55 PM
So what do you suggest is next for me ?

You buy a Gefen HDMI detective, and then sneak into your local Best Buy, and hook it up to a Mits DLP to get the EDID programmed. I suggest wearing all black, a ninja costume would work well.

PaulGo
07-20-10, 03:19 PM
You may find people who will pre-program the Geffen. Check the 3D forums on AVS.

taz291819
07-20-10, 03:31 PM
So what do you suggest is next for me ?

Spend the $299 on the pack that comes with the Geffen pre-programmed.

Nitrox36
07-20-10, 03:59 PM
well if i do the ninja suit i will post it on you tube...lol
299 sounds sooo much better lol

hdtvfan2005
07-20-10, 04:02 PM
I know it's expensive, but the RealD adapter is about $500! An HDMI 1.3/1.4 switcher is recommended so that you can use more than one device with this product. You can use your existing glasses.

Nitrox36
07-20-10, 05:35 PM
where do i get that? and what glasses should i get? i have none now. can i hook up to my ps3

taz291819
07-20-10, 07:22 PM
I know it's expensive, but the RealD adapter is about $500! An HDMI 1.3/1.4 switcher is recommended so that you can use more than one device with this product. You can use your existing glasses.

The RealD adapter currently doesn't support all 3D methods, like the Mits adapter.

Nitrox36
07-21-10, 03:02 PM
where do i get the mit 3da1 for 299? and what glasses do i need to go with it and how many does it support?

PaulGo
07-21-10, 05:14 PM
If you browse this 3D area you will find all the information you need.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=60&f=194

Marshall
07-23-10, 02:38 PM
I have HL67A750 + Laptop PC + Panasonic DMP-BDT350 3D-BD + Cable HD-STB + DVD

Problem: Black screen via HDMI3 when source is PC or 3D-BD; however, HDMI’s 1&2 are good, with PC & 3D-BD. HDMI3 presents HD-STB & DVD video great. I have tested the HDMI cable, it is OK. I have tried 1080p and other outputs from PC & 3D-BD with & without 3D.

I have run out of troubleshooting ideas! Why do HDMI 1&2 have good video pass through but black from HDMI3? Here is a strange wrinkle :confused:– using HDMI3 input with 3D-BD + after disconnection/reconnection of power cord, I get an instant “flash/splash” of the BluRay video icon!

I have the full 3D kit; however, I cannot use it without HDMI3 input! I have gray 3D choice when driving from 3D-BR with 3D demo disk playing [with black screen – see above]

Is the TV’s HDMI3 broken? :mad: Is there a “setup” setting that could be wrong?:rolleyes:

PaulGo
07-23-10, 03:06 PM
The HDMI cable needs to be 1.3a to work correctly with the Panasonic using the primary output. A 1.3 HDMI cable seems to work with the secondary output.

Marshall
07-24-10, 07:21 PM
PaulGo,

Bought HDMI 1.4 - still Black Screen with HDMI3/DVI input. No change in the problem.:confused:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/HDMI#Version_comparison
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I have HL67A750 + Laptop PC + Panasonic DMP-BDT350 3D-BD + Cable HD-STB + DVD

Problem: Black screen via HDMI3/DVI & HDMI1.4 cable, when source is PC or 3D-BD; however, HDMI’s 1&2 are good, with PC & 3D-BD. HDMI3 presents HD-STB & DVD video great. I have tested the HDMI cable, it is OK. I have tried 1080p and other outputs from PC & 3D-BD with & without 3D.

I have run out of troubleshooting ideas! Why do HDMI 1&2 have good video pass through but black from HDMI3? Here is a strange wrinkle – using HDMI3 input with 3D-BD + after disconnection/reconnection of power cord, I get an instant “flash/splash” of the BluRay video icon!

I have the full 3D kit; however, I cannot use it without HDMI3 input! I have gray 3D choice when driving from 3D-BR with 3D demo disk playing [with black screen – see above]

Is the TV’s HDMI3 broken? Is there a “setup” setting that could be wrong?

Nitrox36
07-24-10, 09:18 PM
taz, can you give me a list of what i need for my samy? i would appreciate it
i have a ps3 and all my ps3 and tv is ran through my denon sound system.

PaulGo
07-24-10, 11:22 PM
PaulGo,

Bought HDMI 1.4 - still Black Screen with HDMI3/DVI input. No change in the problem.:confused:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/HDMI#Version_comparison
____________________________________________________________ __
I have HL67A750 + Laptop PC + Panasonic DMP-BDT350 3D-BD + Cable HD-STB + DVD

Problem: Black screen via HDMI3/DVI & HDMI1.4 cable, when source is PC or 3D-BD; however, HDMI’s 1&2 are good, with PC & 3D-BD. HDMI3 presents HD-STB & DVD video great. I have tested the HDMI cable, it is OK. I have tried 1080p and other outputs from PC & 3D-BD with & without 3D.

I have run out of troubleshooting ideas! Why do HDMI 1&2 have good video pass through but black from HDMI3? Here is a strange wrinkle – using HDMI3 input with 3D-BD + after disconnection/reconnection of power cord, I get an instant “flash/splash” of the BluRay video icon!

I have the full 3D kit; however, I cannot use it without HDMI3 input! I have gray 3D choice when driving from 3D-BR with 3D demo disk playing [with black screen – see above]

Is the TV’s HDMI3 broken? Is there a “setup” setting that could be wrong?
If the same sources work on HDMI 1 and 2 but not 3 then you have a problem with the set. My only suggestion is to check the HDMI3 connector for dirt and unplug the TV for a few minutes. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

NetCoder
07-25-10, 11:19 AM
It changes the brightness, contrast, and gives it a slight blue shift. But yes, it definitely fixes the ghosting problem.

It also seems to hide the xvYCC option. My PS3 supports xvYCC and so does the TV... does anyone know if it disappears because it must be on? I'm a little confused... Are xvYCC color and 3D mutually exclusive? If so, that is pretty disappointing.

turls
07-28-10, 03:45 AM
It also seems to hide the xvYCC option. My PS3 supports xvYCC and so does the TV... does anyone know if it disappears because it must be on? I'm a little confused... Are xvYCC color and 3D mutually exclusive? If so, that is pretty disappointing.

By the time everything gets muddled by going through the glasses, what difference does it make? But in my experience with nVidia 3D Vision on a HTPC and the settings on my HL61A750, yes they are mutually exclusive.

NetCoder
07-29-10, 10:24 PM
By the time everything gets muddled by going through the glasses, what difference does it make? But in my experience with nVidia 3D Vision on a HTPC and the settings on my HL61A750, yes they are mutually exclusive.

I think it makes a huge difference since 99% of the content I'll watch isn't in 3d/doesn't require glasses. Why degrade every blu-ray/ps3 game for a few titles?

turls
07-30-10, 07:20 AM
I think it makes a huge difference since 99% of the content I'll watch isn't in 3d/doesn't require glasses. Why degrade every blu-ray/ps3 game for a few titles?

The settings of the TV in 3D mode have nothing to do with the settings in 2D mode. I guess I didn't understand what you meant by "mutually exclusive". You are at a whole different level of "exclusive" than I am.

Same way I get different settings (and different ones are greyed out) if I am in 24p mode on my Sammy or not.

BTW, if I ever get my Tru3D kit, I have both the Xpand and Nvidia solutions now and I will be able to verify if I get the "rainbowing" with both solutions or not (which I suspect very highly I will).

PaulGo
07-30-10, 09:24 AM
Their may be light at the end of the tunnel for Samsung 3D capable DLP owners!!! This article talks about the Tru3D solution but at the end of the article it states:

"Industry sources indicate (lower priced) cable/satellite solutions for listed Samsung HDTVs may become available in the near future. We will publish an update, if and when they are announced."

http://www.hdguru3d.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=596:samsung-dlp-customers-get-3d-lifeline-with-new-adapter&catid=35:hdguru3d-news&Itemid=59

somail
08-02-10, 04:40 PM
So with the HL67A750 and a HTPC setup, I can just used the Nvidia solution. I do not need to purchase the Mitsubishi converter and EDID?

Also I read a while back that the samsung DLPs would only be able to display 3D in 720P. Is this true, or have you guys confimred that you are playing blu-ray 3D in 100% 1080P glory?

Thanks

Marshall
08-06-10, 11:02 AM
Yes, the problem was missing/broken pin in HDMI3 port. Had to replace entire board. Now 3D is great - of course setting HDMI3=PC is essential!

talljerry
08-09-10, 01:46 AM
after buying Xpand X102 3d shutter glasses I will never use my old SSG1000 glasses again.

Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 3D Blu-ray this weekend with them :)

StillwaterTownie
08-09-10, 02:03 AM
So are there other 3D blu-ray movies other than the above?

bad1550
08-09-10, 09:06 PM
I have the Samsung a750 dlp and looking forward to watching 3D.

I ordered the Xpand X102 glasses but still searching for best internet price for Panny 350. Should I just wait for the tru3d or just go ahead with the Panny?

I also have a PS3, so not sure if there will be a software update?

Bob

fourakind
08-11-10, 07:07 PM
after buying Xpand X102 3d shutter glasses I will never use my old SSG1000 glasses again.

Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 3D Blu-ray this weekend with them :)

Why do you prefer the X102's ?

taz291819
08-11-10, 09:36 PM
Why do you prefer the X102's ?

I can't speak for the OP, but the SSG1000's were known to have some ghosting issues.

bad1550
08-11-10, 10:27 PM
I just received my x102 glasses today along with the Panny BDT-300.

I have the Samsung DLP A750 and this combo works great!

Only have the demo disc but its awesome!

Bob

Teremei
08-18-10, 05:22 AM
Ok so I have the HL67A750 also and I want to go over what I need.

Mitsubishi 3DC-1000 3D HDTV Starter Pack
Xpand 3D Shutter Glasses
and a 3D blueray player (and receiver which I'm going to get).

Anything else I need? Fry's has the Mitsu starter pack for $226 so I'm gonna get that there, order the glasses online. And shop around for a 3D bluray player. I'm curious why my TV won't beable to do 3D gaming on the PS3? I know that in september PS3 will get a firmware update that will allow it to play 3D bluray movies. So would that work for the B3D movies?

Can I get a laymen's quick rundown on what I need, and a general Idea of what I'm gonna hook up to what.

PaulGo
08-18-10, 09:33 AM
Thhe Mits adapter only works with Mits TVs - it checks the EDID from the TV. You need a Gefen EDID clone device and a Mits DLP TV to get the EDID info from. Go to the 3D threads for more info.

taz291819
08-18-10, 11:20 AM
Ok so I have the HL67A750 also and I want to go over what I need.

Mitsubishi 3DC-1000 3D HDTV Starter Pack
Xpand 3D Shutter Glasses
and a 3D blueray player (and receiver which I'm going to get).

Anything else I need? Fry's has the Mitsu starter pack for $226 so I'm gonna get that there, order the glasses online. And shop around for a 3D bluray player. I'm curious why my TV won't beable to do 3D gaming on the PS3? I know that in september PS3 will get a firmware update that will allow it to play 3D bluray movies. So would that work for the B3D movies?

Can I get a laymen's quick rundown on what I need, and a general Idea of what I'm gonna hook up to what.

If you plan on getting the Xpand glasses, why would you get the Mits starter pack (which includes glasses)? Just get the Mits adapter, the Gefen adapter, and Xpand glasses.

destiny 21
08-18-10, 11:53 AM
frys doesnt have the mits starter pack for sale called sais it would be back in stock 2to 3 weeks

Mounta1n
08-18-10, 12:23 PM
If you plan on getting the Xpand glasses, why would you get the Mits starter pack (which includes glasses)? Just get the Mits adapter, the Gefen adapter, and Xpand glasses.

Also, if you're just getting the Xpand as extras, they aren't compatible with the Mits, they require the TV to be in the opposite mode.

If you're going with the "3DA1+Gefen+HL67A750=3D" then you'll probably want to read through the entire thread of that name to get an idea of the issues involved, equipment required, and steps to follow.

Teremei
08-18-10, 12:47 PM
I have read through it and I know I need the Mitsu Adaptor, Gefen HDMI Detective, and 3D glasses that are DLP-link, whatever that means. The problem is when I call Fry's or BB the dummies have no idea which glasses are, or what DLP-Link even means. Which is why I need help figuring out what glasses to get.

Mounta1n
08-18-10, 01:11 PM
I have read through it and I know I need the Mitsu Adaptor, Gefen HDMI Detective, and 3D glasses that are DLP-link, whatever that means. The problem is when I call Fry's or BB the dummies have no idea which glasses are, or what DLP-Link even means. Which is why I need help figuring out what glasses to get.

You don't have to get DLP-link glasses. If you got the Mitsu starter kit, it would come with glasses and an emitter, and those would work fine. If you are just getting the adapter, not the starter kit, then you could either buy glasses + emitter separately, or you could buy DLP-link glasses. The only DLP-link glasses I am aware of at the moment, are the Xpand X-102, or the Viewsonic glasses (which I haven't seen in-stock anywhere yet, also have not confirmed they work with our sets).

The other thing to note is if you are buying a new 3D-BD player anyway, you could just get the panasonic BDT350 player that outputs checkerboard, and not have to deal with the adapter issues at all. In that case, you could once again either get glasses+emitter, or get DLP-link glasses. The advantage of glasses + emitter is that they would be compatible with the newer 3D TVs in case you decided to upgrade in a year or two. The DLP-link glasses will only work with DLP TVs (and DLP projectors). The DLP TVs however, can work with any kind of glasses.

I was just going to add a link to the panasonic 350 player at Amazon, and went searching and they don't even have it listed available new anymore, not out-of-stock, in-soon, or anything, just one seller with a used one :eek:

bad1550
08-18-10, 01:16 PM
The panny bdt 300 is similar and much cheaper

IronTorch
08-18-10, 08:35 PM
FYI everyone:
Check out the Samsung DLP 3D kits available through TRu3D

http://www.tru3d.com/3D_Accessories/3D_Converters.php

Everything is included to get one up and running.

buzzard767
08-19-10, 08:42 AM
The advantage of glasses + emitter is that they would be compatible with the newer 3D TVs in case you decided to upgrade in a year or two. The DLP-link glasses will only work with DLP TVs (and DLP projectors). The DLP TVs however, can work with any kind of glasses.


Excellent point. The 750 is two years old already and your next display may well not be a DLP.

If you want to go with DLP Link glasses, the Optomas are a good alternative because they don't require special batteries available only from Xpand who charges exorbitant shipping fees.

That said, I use Xpand 102s with my HL67A750, but only because I'm getting a Mitsubishi DLP for my other residence. Additional glasses will definitely be Optomas.

Buzz

Nitrox36
08-20-10, 02:55 PM
will this work?

Nitrox36
08-20-10, 02:56 PM
i mean the tru3d kit? it says for dlp 3d tv's and ps3

Nitrox36
08-20-10, 03:05 PM
Ive read through most of the posts but A- i don't know much and its kinda of confusing, and B- my case load at work is horrable and i dont have a lot of time to research, so what im asking is does someone have a definate list of what WILL work awsome for the a750 for 3d. and last has been used and proven. And will it work in the future with a newer tv?

Nitrox36
08-24-10, 02:59 PM
Anyone??

buzzard767
08-24-10, 05:33 PM
Ive read through most of the posts but A- i don't know much and its kinda of confusing, and B- my case load at work is horrable and i dont have a lot of time to research, so what im asking is does someone have a definate list of what WILL work awsome for the a750 for 3d. and last has been used and proven. And will it work in the future with a newer tv?

If you only want to watch BD movies then get a Panny 300/350 BD player which will output checkerboard directly to your set. The only thing else you will need are DLP-Link glasses.

If you want 3D broadcast you need both the Mits adapter, the Geffen spoofer, and 3D glasses. This will also work with a PS3 after the expected FW upgrade in September.

There are other considerations such as splitters and switchers depending on your equipment.

What exact 3D do you want and is your AVR 3D or not?

Buzz

Nitrox36
08-25-10, 09:28 AM
No i have a denon avr 790 i think ill have to look when i get home, I have a ps3 and a HTPC i built i just want to see 3d, I usually watch movies from a HD that is on my HTPC but use Tv versity and watch through my ps3. I would love to be able to BD 3d and all of my movied that r on my HD. It took forever top condence my dvd disks. I hope that wasnt for nothing. lol also what glasses would i need? THanks so much

taz291819
08-25-10, 12:08 PM
No i have a denon avr 790 i think ill have to look when i get home, I have a ps3 and a HTPC i built i just want to see 3d, I usually watch movies from a HD that is on my HTPC but use Tv versity and watch through my ps3. I would love to be able to BD 3d and all of my movied that r on my HD. It took forever top condence my dvd disks. I hope that wasnt for nothing. lol also what glasses would i need? THanks so much

If you're using a HTPC, you need a software 3D BD player (like TMT or PDVD), and glasses.

For glasses, I'd suggest the Xpand X102's.

White Noise
08-25-10, 06:23 PM
Wow this is all really great news. Thanks for keeping us updated!

Nitrox36
08-26-10, 08:06 AM
Ok well if i don't use my htpc what do i need so that my tv is 3D. It would be nice if what ever is playing through the tv its 3D is that even possible?

buzzard767
08-26-10, 08:26 AM
Ok well if i don't use my htpc what do i need so that my tv is 3D. It would be nice if what ever is playing through the tv its 3D is that even possible?

No, it is not possible. No 3D content, no 3D. There is no 2D>3D conversion feature on the HLXXA750 displays.

Buzz

Nitrox36
08-26-10, 10:17 AM
ISn't that what this thread is for??? 2d tv putting out 3D??
taz in your opinion what is my check list of items to buy for 3d.

Nitrox36
08-26-10, 10:20 AM
You don't have to get DLP-link glasses. If you got the Mitsu starter kit, it would come with glasses and an emitter, and those would work fine. If you are just getting the adapter, not the starter kit, then you could either buy glasses + emitter separately, or you could buy DLP-link glasses. The only DLP-link glasses I am aware of at the moment, are the Xpand X-102, or the Viewsonic glasses (which I haven't seen in-stock anywhere yet, also have not confirmed they work with our sets).

The other thing to note is if you are buying a new 3D-BD player anyway, you could just get the panasonic BDT350 player that outputs checkerboard, and not have to deal with the adapter issues at all. In that case, you could once again either get glasses+emitter, or get DLP-link glasses. The advantage of glasses + emitter is that they would be compatible with the newer 3D TVs in case you decided to upgrade in a year or two. The DLP-link glasses will only work with DLP TVs (and DLP projectors). The DLP TVs however, can work with any kind of glasses.

I was just going to add a link to the panasonic 350 player at Amazon, and went searching and they don't even have it listed available new anymore, not out-of-stock, in-soon, or anything, just one seller with a used one :eek:

what glasses and what emitter are you suggesting? i was told by a kid in bb that the bdt 350 would not work on my tv?

eddy_winds
08-26-10, 10:32 AM
i was told by a kid in bb that the bdt 350 would not work on my tv?

The kid is wrong..

Panasonic BDT350 player outputs checkerboard
;)

Nitrox36
08-26-10, 11:00 AM
Go figure..lol i think te problem with some of those "TV PEOPLE" in BB they don't know a whole lot and give a quick answer,

Nitrox36
08-27-10, 09:18 AM
what glasses and what emitter are you suggesting? i was told by a kid in bb that the bdt 350 would not work on my tv?
Anyone

eddy_winds
08-27-10, 10:04 AM
Anyone

For more Info:

BUYERS GUIDE: 3DTVs and 3D Active Shutter Glasses (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1237122)

Read or Post Here..

3D Shutter DLP Glasses: REVIEWS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1255670)

Nitrox36
08-27-10, 10:48 AM
ok well can anyone tell me what THEY have and use that works for the 67a750 and where i can get the same thanks
those postings have little to NONE on the samsung that i own. its mostly for mits, thats how i bought a system and it didnt work, thats why i have come to this one because this is just for the sam67a750!

jmcdon7230
08-27-10, 04:58 PM
ok well can anyone tell me what THEY have and use that works for the 67a750 and where i can get the same thanks
those postings have little to NONE on the samsung that i own. its mostly for mits, thats how i bought a system and it didnt work, thats why i have come to this one because this is just for the sam67a750!

I have a legacy Samsung HL67A750 DLP and a Panasonic DMP-BDT350. For glasses I'm using the ViewSonic PGD-150. They work fine with this setup. I ordered both the Panasonic and the ViewSonics through Amazon.

shockerrower
08-28-10, 04:16 PM
So I just got my x102 and I've been playing Pandora on my 67a750. The 3d works pretty well. The only thing I noticed was at times during the game the thing would seem to go out of sync. Basically the 3d would stop working and then sync back together again.

Anybody else having this problem? Or do I have a bum pair of glasses? Also what is the deal with no off switch? Its kind of a weird setup for turning them on and off.

Still on the fence on whether to use true3d's setup.

StillwaterTownie
08-31-10, 05:07 PM
I just received my x102 glasses today along with the Panny BDT-300.

I have the Samsung DLP A750 and this combo works great!

Only have the demo disc but its awesome!

BobSo how did you get the 3D to switch to on in the menu? I can't in mine.

bad1550
08-31-10, 05:10 PM
So how did you get the 3D to switch to on in the menu? I can't in mine.

I set the output to checkerboard on the panny which enabled
3D on A 750

Bob

StillwaterTownie
08-31-10, 05:17 PM
I set the output to checkerboard on the panny which enabled
3D on A 750

BobOk, cool, I got it working in 3D. Yeah, it's awesome!

bad1550
08-31-10, 05:20 PM
Ok, cool, I got it working in 3D. Yeah, it's awesome!

Great!

Glad it worked

Cant wait for my Samsung kit to arrive

Bob

Nitrox36
09-01-10, 09:53 AM
So how did you get the 3D to switch to on in the menu? I can't in mine.

with the panny the only 3d you see is the 3d bluray disks right is there a kit that works with the sammy 67a750 where ps3 or HTPC will shoot out 3d so that just tied to a 3ddisk only??

taz291819
09-01-10, 01:44 PM
with the panny the only 3d you see is the 3d bluray disks right is there a kit that works with the sammy 67a750 where ps3 or HTPC will shoot out 3d so that just tied to a 3ddisk only??

The A750 series is easy to do with a HTPC. If you have an ATI card, simply download the iz3D drivers (free for ATI users). If you have a nvidia card, you'll need either the iz3D drivers (have to pay) or nvidia's own solution. Both work with checkerboard output.

The PS3 is a whole different thing. I'm not sure if gaming on a PS3 will ever work, since it only outputs 720p in 3D, which our displays (and converters) need 1080p.

Mounta1n
09-01-10, 02:26 PM
The A750 series is easy to do with a HTPC. If you have an ATI card, simply download the iz3D drivers (free for ATI users). If you have a nvidia card, you'll need either the iz3D drivers (have to pay) or nvidia's own solution. Both work with checkerboard output.

The PS3 is a whole different thing. I'm not sure if gaming on a PS3 will ever work, since it only outputs 720p in 3D, which our displays (and converters) need 1080p.

The converters work fine with the 720P from the PS3. The converter is made for a Mits, and the Mits TV's require the same inputs as the Sammys. They have the same TI DLP chip.

taz291819
09-01-10, 08:22 PM
The converters work fine with the 720P from the PS3. The converter is made for a Mits, and the Mits TV's require the same inputs as the Sammys. They have the same TI DLP chip.

I know they use identical TI chips, but I also know what happens to a Sammy when you send it a 720p signal for 3D, it becomes window-boxed.

EDIT:
Nevermind, I see that the converter scales from 720p to 1080p.

And technically after the firmware updates for the newer Mits, the input requirements won't be the same as the legacy Sammys.

Mounta1n
09-02-10, 12:49 PM
I know they use identical TI chips, but I also know what happens to a Sammy when you send it a 720p signal for 3D, it becomes window-boxed.

EDIT:
Nevermind, I see that the converter scales from 720p to 1080p.

And technically after the firmware updates for the newer Mits, the input requirements won't be the same as the legacy Sammys.

But even after the firmware updates for the newer Mits (which appear to have been scratched, as the notice about them has been taken off the product page for the newer TV's at Mits) the input requirements for the legacy Mits would still be the same as the input requirements for the legacy Sammys. Hence, no actual change in regards to the adapter.

EDIT: What's up with this disinformation campaign, anyway?

STR3T
09-17-10, 05:09 PM
I've got a 67A750, DirectTV and a Denon SR-508. But I've been reading about issues w/ this receiver, think because it was not 1.4a spec?

Anybody having success w/ DirectTV broadcast 3D and the Denon?

Does DTV supply glasses or should I be shopping online for some?

Antz_Marchin
09-19-10, 09:31 PM
Hey guys, just stumbled upon this thread and new here. Glad I did cause there's so much great info and I thought I may be out of luck for 3D on my HL67a until now. So I just want to be sure that I have things right here cause I've been reading all about needing a PC but then it looked so much more simple with some of the recent things I've been reading.

Is this true? All I need is the Sammy HL67a, a Panasonic BDT350 and the XpanD X102 glasses and voila, I have 3D? For setup I need to use HDMI3 and set the input title to PC to eliminate ghosting. Is it really as easy as that?

Thanks so much for all the advice here.

buzzard767
09-20-10, 07:52 AM
Hey guys, just stumbled upon this thread and new here. Glad I did cause there's so much great info and I thought I may be out of luck for 3D on my HL67a until now. So I just want to be sure that I have things right here cause I've been reading all about needing a PC but then it looked so much more simple with some of the recent things I've been reading.

Is this true? All I need is the Sammy HL67a, a Panasonic BDT350 and the XpanD X102 glasses and voila, I have 3D? For setup I need to use HDMI3 and set the input title to PC to eliminate ghosting. Is it really as easy as that?

Thanks so much for all the advice here.

Once hooked up and running you will need to use the remote control tools button or menu and enable 3D Mode 2. Then you're set up properly to watch 3D - if you can find any software. LOL

If you want cable or satellite 3D you will also need a Mits adapter and a Geffen spoofer.

Buzz

Antz_Marchin
09-20-10, 12:53 PM
Once hooked up and running you will need to use the remote control tools button or menu and enable 3D Mode 2. Then you're set up properly to watch 3D - if you can find any software. LOL

If you want cable or satellite 3D you will also need a Mits adapter and a Geffen spoofer.

Buzz

Hey Buzz, thanks for the reply. Being a Newbie though I may as well clarify what you mean by needing to find software? Since we've established not needing the PC I'm guessing we are talking about firmware for the TV? Is there a specific version that is required for 3D and if I don't have it is it unavailable now that the TV is discontinued? I just don't want to buy the components and find out it's all in vain.

Thanks again

buzzard767
09-20-10, 01:47 PM
Hey Buzz, thanks for the reply. Being a Newbie though I may as well clarify what you mean by needing to find software? Since we've established not needing the PC I'm guessing we are talking about firmware for the TV? Is there a specific version that is required for 3D and if I don't have it is it unavailable now that the TV is discontinued? I just don't want to buy the components and find out it's all in vain.

Thanks again

No, I'm talking about Blu-Ray 3D material. There is a mere handful available today. Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs is a view one time only movie for me. The Imax 3D Grand Canyon Adventure is a fun 45 minutes but what is really needed is the release of movies like 3D Avatar for instance.

I'll buy or Netflix movies as they come available, but... Look here (http://www.3dmovielist.com/list.html) for upcoming releases. TV sports, in my opinion, is going to be the big draw, but so fat there isn't much - see here (http://espn.go.com/3d/).

Buzz

OculusX
10-12-10, 11:24 AM
What is everyones take on the difference between these two glasses?
The Optomas are cheaper and use standard batteries which is a plus!

Optoma BG-ZD101 DLP Link 3D Glasses vs Xpand X102 3d DLP Glasses

PaulGo
10-12-10, 01:33 PM
Also look at the Viewsonic glasses - same as the Optima but you can change from mode 1 to 2 on the glasses. Advantage - compatible with other glasses.

knobby
10-12-10, 08:13 PM
ordred Viewsonic glasses they are finally available in ontario canada. you guys have it made for getting the 3d stuff.here in canada we have the shipping across the border and duties etc.buy the time it arrives to us we pay a lot more.you can order optoma glasses at walmart in the states but we cant get them here in canada.

taz291819
10-12-10, 09:46 PM
ordred Viewsonic glasses they are finally available in ontario canada. you guys have it made for getting the 3d stuff.here in canada we have the shipping across the border and duties etc.buy the time it arrives to us we pay a lot more.you can order optoma glasses at walmart in the states but we cant get them here in canada.

Not really. Most content has to be ordered from EU, though you're right, though of us in the U.S. don't have to pay duty.

Nitrox36
10-25-10, 12:56 PM
ok....one last time b4 i make a big buy..
with a a750 67inch, what all do i need so i can watch 3d on my tv?

ldkelly67
10-29-10, 11:38 PM
I have the Panasonic BDT350 set to checkerboard format at 1080p and the nvidia glasses/emitter. I orginally got the nvidia glasses for gaming. Then 3D BD players came out. I initially had no success watching 3D movies since the emitter will not come on while playing the BD player. Then I thought of starting the test screen in the nvidia control panel on my PC to keep the emitter turned on. Then I switched input to my TV to the BD player. This works great.
If someone knows a better way to keep the emitter turned on, please tell me. I don't want to buy a new emitter and glasses.
I also tried using PowerDVD 10 player on my PC which can be downloaded for free 30 day trial (I've got a BD player in my PC), however I had the same issue getting the emitter to turn on (maybe a driver issue??). The PowerDVD 10 software is $90, the Panasonic BDT350 was only $320, so I spent a little more and got the player. If I could have worked out the emitter bug I would have just bought PowerDVD 10..

Nitrox36
11-02-10, 10:07 AM
ok....one last time b4 i make a big buy..
with a a750 67inch, what all do i need so i can watch 3d on my tv?

anyone ???

EricUtah
11-02-10, 02:15 PM
anyone ???

After spending a couple weeks setting up a 3d HTPC, I'll tell you what I believe the minimum to be:

1) First and foremost: Your PC or Bluray player must be connected to input #3. Change the input name of HDMI/DVI3 to "PC" (from bluray or game or whatever). That allows for proper 3d operation and immediately resolves terrible ghosting issues. I struggled with that until I found the answer here - I had thought the ghosting was the result of cheap glasses. Unfortunately when using "PC" mode many video options are locked out (such as sharpness, NR). That's inherent to the PC mode and can't be changed.

2) If you're playing discs from an external Bluray player, you'll need DLP compatible glasses such as Optoma or Xpand. EDIT: And a converter like this: http://www.tru3d.com/products/view_product.php?id=31003

3) If you're going to be using a PC, you'll need software that can play back 3d. Stereoscopic Player can play various media encoded in SBS (side by side left/right images), over/under, etc. Example videos are at http://www.3dtv.at/movies/Index_en.aspx

4) If you're going to play 3D discs from a Bluray drive on the computer, you'd need something like Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 that supports 3D playback operation.

5) If you're going to use any other external input (like a 3d satellite/cable channel), you'll likely need a converter. There are many other threads discussing 3d converters and the Samsung A750s; you can search them if you need further info. I also can't comment on PC gaming.

That's the minimum I'm aware of; if someone notes something missing please mention it.

It goes without saying, but just in case: When starting 3d playback, make sure to hit "Tools -> 3d Effect" on the TV remote or nothing will happen.

Nitrox36
11-10-10, 03:07 PM
well is there any type of system so that i can play xbox 360 3d throught the sammy?

MiahXgaming
11-10-10, 04:13 PM
well is there any type of system so that i can play xbox 360 3d throught the sammy?

I just realized the 360 was getting 3D when I got this email from Best Buy saying Black ops on 360 would be 3D (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=Call+of+Duty+Black+Ops&sc=Global&cp=1&sp=&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~q43616c6c206f66204475747920426c61636b204f7073~~ncabcat070 0000%23%233%23%233&list=y&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&p=[promotion%2C+synonymns]&_D%3Ap=+&pu=defaultusr&_D%3Apu=+&pt=1274590801&iht=n&_DARGS=%2Fsite%2Fen_US%2Fsearch%2Ffragments%2Fincludes%2Fols searchparameters.jsp.frmSearchResults).

Nitrox36
11-11-10, 08:46 AM
I just realized the 360 was getting 3D when I got this email from Best Buy saying Black ops on 360 would be 3D (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=Call+of+Duty+Black+Ops&sc=Global&cp=1&sp=&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~q43616c6c206f66204475747920426c61636b204f7073~~ncabcat070 0000%23%233%23%233&list=y&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&p=[promotion%2C+synonymns]&_D%3Ap=+&pu=defaultusr&_D%3Apu=+&pt=1274590801&iht=n&_DARGS=%2Fsite%2Fen_US%2Fsearch%2Ffragments%2Fincludes%2Fols searchparameters.jsp.frmSearchResults).

so how do we play it in 3d on the sammy?????

PaulGo
11-11-10, 09:07 AM
so how do we play it in 3d on the sammy?????

Unless the 360 does checkerboard (which I doubt) you can't without an adapter -see the AVS 3D forums for more details.

eddysnake
11-11-10, 10:09 AM
dang, glad I stumbled upon this thread. I have a Sammy 61A750 DLP and now that I've been doing some reading, I think I'll be in the market for a Panny 300/350. For those of you that have this tv and 3D player, are you running it through your avr and then tv.

I'm assuming that when you output the 3D player to checkboard, it shouldn't cause any problems for the avr? I have a pioneer vsx-919 and want to make sure if I go this route, I'll still be getting HD sound as well as video. You don't need to run a separate HDMI cable straight to the TV and one to the avr or anything like that? Great work here, keep it up and thanks!

taz291819
11-11-10, 01:25 PM
But even after the firmware updates for the newer Mits (which appear to have been scratched, as the notice about them has been taken off the product page for the newer TV's at Mits) the input requirements for the legacy Mits would still be the same as the input requirements for the legacy Sammys. Hence, no actual change in regards to the adapter.

EDIT: What's up with this disinformation campaign, anyway?

What disinformation campaign? I was wrong (and corrected that) about one thing. If you're talking about the HDMI requirements, I wasn't talking about the legacy Mits, which I thought most would have figured out since I referred to the firmware update.

btw, some already have the firmware update.

avshtpcbob
11-17-10, 09:08 AM
Hi all. One thing I could not find 100% information on is if the glasses and emitter from IO Displays will work in conjunction with the Viewsonic's. For kids the Viewsonics and Optomas are BIG! The x102 are okay, but I returned them because they were acting funny. The IO Display glass fit my kid perfectly. They are retro-goofy looking but work.

It sounds like Viewsonic's and the IO Display glassed can work together. The BIG glasses are better for those who have are wearing normal glasses.

Thanks!

UPDATE: Viewsonic PGD-150 (DLP Link) and IO System (IR) glasses do work together! However, right now one of my PGD-150 has cracked/broken arms. Seems to be a real problem. These glasses work great. Such a shame.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19737547

Aixm2za
11-19-10, 12:38 AM
I have the Panasonic BDT350 set to checkerboard format at 1080p and the nvidia glasses/emitter. I orginally got the nvidia glasses for gaming. Then 3D BD players came out. I initially had no success watching 3D movies since the emitter will not come on while playing the BD player. Then I thought of starting the test screen in the nvidia control panel on my PC to keep the emitter turned on. Then I switched input to my TV to the BD player. This works great.
If someone knows a better way to keep the emitter turned on, please tell me. I don't want to buy a new emitter and glasses.
I also tried using PowerDVD 10 player on my PC which can be downloaded for free 30 day trial (I've got a BD player in my PC), however I had the same issue getting the emitter to turn on (maybe a driver issue??). The PowerDVD 10 software is $90, the Panasonic BDT350 was only $320, so I spent a little more and got the player. If I could have worked out the emitter bug I would have just bought PowerDVD 10..


I use PowerDVD10 right now with nvidia geforce gtx 465 gpu. in short, any card that is 3dvision capable; will work with powerdvd 10. set it as "3D-HDTV" ready. The emitter should turn on automatically and your glasses should work. I use Xpand x102's and they work great (they sync with DLP chip; no emitter needed). The blu-ray is fantastic. Only drawback; my GPU doesn't output HD audio, only standard 5.1 dolby and dts (which is fine). Cool thing though--I had it running through a 2-year old A/V receiver (denon avr-4308), and it works PERFECT. Any other questions let me/us know.

Aixm2za
11-19-10, 12:44 AM
Should be all set. I do that with an older A/V reciever too. If you haven't bought a receiver yet, the Panasonic 100 will output checkerboard too, and save you cash. It's about $200. It just doesn't have wifi capability or an extra hdmi output, which helps with those people with HDMI 1.4 spec 3DTV's. Ours are fine. Although, I'm kind of curious to see if someone running the Panasonic 300 experiences any luck with better audio quality running one HDMI out to their A/V receiver for audio only (as you can choose that option on the Panasonic player's options), and running the other output (the "main" output) right to their 3DTV. Just curious. But yeah, it should work.

Ranger69
11-21-10, 01:41 AM
I have a 67A750. I was able to get blu-ray 3D to work on the Sam DLP using Nvidia's 3D Vision kit. And it looks fantastic..!

The hardware that you need is a PC with a blu-ray drive, an Nvidia 400 series graphics card along with the Nvidia 3D Vision kit.

The software that you need is CyberLink PowerDVD 10

Boot to your PC monitor. In the Nvidia control panel change the display to the Sam DLP (note: you must use HDMI port #3 and have it labeled "PC" using the Sam DLP Source menu) Use the "Tools" button on the Sam DLP remote to select "3d mode 1". Install and configure the 3D Vision kit (just follow the prompts and select "Generic DLP" as the display device). At this point you should be able to use and see all PC program 3d effects on the Sam DLP. (MS Flight Simulator in 3D on a 67" screen is awesome..!)

To watch a blu-ray 3d movie you must install CyberLink "Power DVD 10". On the "Power DVD 10" tool bar, select and enable 3d playback. In the area that says "Choose 3D display:" select "Generic DLP". Now launch your blu-ray 3D movie. As the movie starts it will show a double display (even while wearing the 3d vision glasses).
At this point bring up the PWR DVD "3D Display Configuration" and change the display device to "120hz Time-sequential 3D LCD". At this point, the display cleans up and you have a beautiful, sharp image with full 3d effects..!

So far, I've watched "Imax Space Station 3D" and "Imax Wild Ocean 3D" and both movies looked fantastic in full 3D..!

The only down side is that when the movie is over or you turn the movie off, the screen goes dark and you get a message that the "mode is not supported". The only way to get the PC display back on the Sam DLP is to reboot the PC.

btw: The movie sound is carried through the Nvidia HDMI or DVI to HDMI cable and you can play it on the Sammy DLP or you can use a optical audio cable directly from the PC to your surround sound system.

If you don't already own a PC with a series 400 graphics card, this can be a very expensive way to see blu-ray 3d. Other wise, it is another option that I wanted to share. I know that this process sounds like a pain in the butt. Hower, the picture quality and 3d effects are flawless..! (I can't wait until Avatar 3D comes out on blu-ray..!)

Rhoniel Kase
11-21-10, 02:32 AM
Hi,
My post is not related to Samsung DLP's but think it is still most suitable area for my question.

I have a Samsung 720p plasma PN50A450 TV which is a 3D compatible (checkerboard) plasma unit released in 2008. My understanding is that my plasma TV can only except 3D signals from a 720p source. It cannot display 3D from 1080p source. My question is, can this Panasonic BDT350 Blu-Ray player output the 3D (checkerboard) signals in 720 format?

Has anyone tested the Panasonic BDT350 with any 720p checkerboard 3D display?

Thanks.

gambit888
11-24-10, 06:06 PM
Hi All,

I am thankful I have found this thread as I am another Samsung 67 inch 1080p 3D DLP HL67A750 owner as well. I have been trying to research the 3D TV Adapter KIT for Samsung 3D DLP HDTV for the past 3 weeks now.
My intent is to have the ability to do 3D with my PS3 for games and movies, play Call of Duty: Black Ops on my 360 and be able to use my HTPC that has a Nvidia GTX card with 3D Vision.

I'm in the process of pulling the trigger in buying the TRU3D Kit but my biggest question right now is why is nobody mentioning the Xpand X103 glasses????

I figured since the X102's have a proprietary battery (can we say expensive),
fugly red color (no offense to peeps who have them) and a pricey investment why is nobody talking about X103 glasses.

Am I missing something? Do they not work with this setup? I figured since DLP's are on there way out anyways, wouldn't it be wise to invest in UNIVERSAL set of glasses that way if you want to buy one of those newer LED LCD's or plasmas you could use the glasses on them too?

TRU3D does list the following Pkg:
3D TV Adapter KIT for Samsung 3D DLP HDTV with X103 x2 + IR Emitter

as one of it's required 3D adapters for cable and PS3 for the Samsung 67 inch 1080p 3D DLP HL67A750
SKU: 000022

thanks for any replys to let me know if this will work as I'm dying to finally make use of this so called 3D Ready goodness that Samsung has dropped the ball on.

Thanks.

avshtpcbob
12-26-10, 05:49 AM
I have tested Xpand 102's and ViewSonic PGD-150 DLP link glasses. I like the 150's better and they are cheaper. The 150's are too big for kids however. Xpands fit nicer. I also bought an emitter and 1 set of glasses from i-o systems. They look funky but also fit a small childs head. Good things is these work in conjunction with the 150's I have. SO I have a DLP link and IR set of glasses working together :) One issue I had is that a newer HDMI did not work with my Panny players.

EDIT: What I meant by 'newer' HDMI - I bought an HDMI cable for the NEX that said 3D 1.4. It did not work. The signal was garbled or something and I had to rely on RCA cables to view the output from the BDT-350. I had an 'older' HDMI cable like 2+ years old. I plugged it in from the BDT to HDMI-3 and it worked. I dont know what that was about. Possibly could of been defective who knows. I had two of these cables from a kit I bought from Costco. So I used i right away on my sammy 61" from my BDT-100. No issues. So I am not sure what spec they are as I do not have the box nor do the have any labels.

Right now one of my PGD-150 has cracked/broken arms. These glasses work great. Such a shame.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19737547


My Stuff;
Samsung HL67A750 and Panasonic BDT-350 / HL61A750 and Panasonic BDT-100
2 Viewsonic PGD-150 / IO system glasses (1) and IR emitter
IR and DLP Link together :)

hurricanebob
12-26-10, 10:17 AM
I have the Samsung HL-T5089S and bought the 3D kit from tru3D and originally ordered four pairs of Viewsonic PG-150 DLP-link glasses. I returned the Viewsonics due to the fact that they kept losing sync, and now have six pair of X103 universal IR glasses. They work perfectly and use regular button cell batteries, unlike the X102's.

Wildfrog
12-28-10, 02:41 PM
I have a HL67A750 being driven by a HTPC and just bought 4 sets of DLP link glasses from
http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/uldlpliwi3dg.html
They look better than most are MUCH cheaper and so far I am very impressed with them. I may have some of the first ones sold. They take a standard 2032 battery sync very fast, go to standby and clear in a couple of seconds if you need to look away. They come with a soft black drawstring bag for storage. They fit different size faces and are comfortable, tho i may get some foam pads for mine as I have a very narrow bridge on my nose. Also are very light and the lenses are quite large, and quite clear when off. It is also nice that no emitter is necessary. As with all DLP sets there is a reddish cast to blacks when in 3d mode the tint on the glasses does a good job of filtering out most of it. The 3d on that set is pretty awesome on Avatar where they show the sleep chambers opening the depth is awesome. So if you have a checkerboard output player, or as I have a HTPC with Total Media Theater 5 this is definitely the cheapest way to get your 3D going. All the observations are from one nite of viewing but so far so good.

sharpie510
01-04-11, 02:30 PM
Ultimate3DHeaven.com has a number of 3D Glasses and I'm not sure which are the proper ones to order.

http://ultimate3dheaven.com/dlp3dwiglfis.html
http://ultimate3dheaven.com/uldlpliwi3dg.html
http://ultimate3dheaven.com/family.html

Should I get the UltraClear HD, UltraClear DLP, or X-Force 3D? Their web site suggests the X-Force for my tv, but I'm pretty sure other people have been using the UltraClear DLPs. Are the UltraClear HD a new version of the DLPs? I currently don't have any 3D Glasses and it sounds like the HDs play better with existing ones, but I am totally confused by the marketing claims.

Which ones do I need? I guess I don't ever plan to use these at the same time as IR based glasses, but the HDs sound like they are more compatible with other systems should I want to upgrade my TV at some point. If I get the Ultra-Clear HDs, do I need to buy a emitter? Is that the main advantage of going with the Ultra-Clear DLPs for my TV?

I should also note that I have a Panasonic DMP-BDT100 blu-ray player for the checkerboard 3d output.

Thanks all.

Vishwa Somayaji
01-05-11, 04:13 PM
Hi Wildfrog,
Thanks for your note on the 3d glasses. I have the same TV and was contemplating getting into 3d. Do you mind giving the details on your HTPC. If I had a 3d capable HTPC(eg Nvidia 460 card, bluray player) and the HL67A750 TV, is it just these glasses I need or do I need something else like a synchronizer/ir emitter?
Thanks in advance.

aries74
02-01-11, 04:14 PM
hey there, first post and not sure I put it in the right place. need help with my setup because I ran into a few snafus. not sure what I am doing wrong here. here is a copy of the email I sent to tru3d earlier for tech support:

Hi, I recently ordered a 3da-1 adapter with the geffen detective for my samsung hl67a750. the equipment I am currently using with this adapter are: ps3 updated to version 3.56, xbox 360, hl67a750 tv, yamaha rx-a800 3d ready receiver with two hdmi outputs, 1.3 hdmi cables, and optoma bdz-101 glasses, hdmi 3 is named pc.
before I hooked up the adapter I was able to play avatar (the game) on xbox 360 in 3d since it had native checkerboard options in menus. I would always have both hdmi ports (1 and 3) available at all times through the receiver. I could play the game in 3d then switch the tv back to hdmi 1 and play normal titles.
since then I have hooked up the adapter and tried it with call of duty black ops (since it only support side by side format) and the adapter converted it just fine (on the xbox 360). Then I tried to start a 3d movie on my ps3 and it sent a message saying its basically not supported. my ps3 video output settings are set to hdmi and automatic but they never gave me the option for screen size nor did it list the 3d resolutions. I tried removing the receiver from the loop and running the ps3 straight through the adapter into the tv and then the hdmi 3 port on the tv would not register a signal. since then no matter how I hook up to the tv the hdmi 3 does not find the signal from my input devices.
I was also a little confused because in the instructions for initial setup it says to turn on the tv and select hdmi 3 with adaptor turned on, but hdmi 3 was not selectable. so I do not think that part worked out if it is trying to program the adaptor. I also noticed on the geffen detective there is a button named program. (I did not touch it because I don’t know what that would do so I thought I would ask first) was there a step not included in the instructions that require that button to make this work?
I hope my hdmi 3 port is not fried now because I used to be able to use it and now I can’t even select it on my tv. I would appreciate and be greatly indebted to you if you could help me get this working. would prefer a call if possible so I could be walked through this process because I think I am missing something. thank you for you time.
please email me if you cant get my number from the order.

hope this helps you help me. I would really appreciate it. I would like to see all this money I just spent amount to something. thank you for your help.

p.s. I forgot to add that my receiver's firmware has been updated as well.

p.s.s. I actually posted this somewhere else but my wife thought this would be a better spot so I gave it a go.

Aphextwin911
02-22-11, 11:33 AM
Hi guys - I have a Samsung HL67A750 as well, and I'm seriously considering trying out a 3D kit to see what all the fuss is about :) I've heard several times in this forum as well as a couple of others that the Mitsubishi kit/cables/emitter is compatible with the A750's - is that correct? My local Best Buy actually has the following Mitsu kit available in store and I was considering picking it up to at least see what the performance is like, and if I don't care for it I can always return it... does anyone know if this is a compatible kit?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mitsubishi+-+3D+Starter+Pack+for+Most+Mitsubishi+3D-Ready+TVs/1111858.p?id=1218220737134&skuId=1111858&st=3d starter&cp=1&lp=2

PaulGo
02-22-11, 05:06 PM
Only the 3DC-100S kit is compatible. As of now you can only buy it directly from Mitsubishi for $450.

domingos1965
02-24-11, 02:30 PM
any of u use the samsung 750 series owners paired with the panasonic PT 100 3D player?
cau u post the settings u're using to successfuly display 3D ?
i can't get mine to display

domingos1965
02-24-11, 02:32 PM
any of u use the samsung 750 series paired with the panasonic PT 100 3D player?
cau u post the settings u're using on both the tv and blu ray player to successfuly display 3D?
i can't get mine to display 3D


Thanks

bitemymac
02-24-11, 10:00 PM
any of u use the samsung 750 series paired with the panasonic PT 100 3D player?
cau u post the settings u're using on both the tv and blu ray player to successfuly display 3D?
i can't get mine to display 3D


Thanks

Name your HDMI3 as PC.
Plug 3d player in HDMI3
insert 3d movie
when disc menu appears, chose 3d
press tools button from TV remote, then press left arrow to mode2.
press tools again to turn the menu off

put on your glasses and enjoy.

PaulGo
02-25-11, 10:50 AM
And put the Panasonic into the checkerboard mode.

hurricanebob
02-27-11, 11:07 AM
Aries74, you have to program the Geffen with a Mits DLP EDID in order for it to work with the 3DA-1 adapter. Did you order it preprogrammed from tru3d.com?

yucky
03-05-11, 12:01 AM
What is better DLP Link or IR Emitter method?

DLP Link suffers from:
rainbows

IR emitter suffers from (because of the DLP Link Signal):
red tint
washed out image

I read that some devices can turn off DLP Link, thus solving the problems when using IR emitter method. Is this possible with the HL67A750? or is DLP Link signal always on?

sharpie510
03-05-11, 06:30 PM
I have had a Samsung HL67A750 dlp for a few years now (3D Ready bull and all) and have just recently
decided to try to get 3d working. I cannot believe how difficult this is. Here's what I have:

Samsung HL67A750 DLP
Pioneer VSX-1120K
Sony PS3 updated for 3D
Viewsonic PGD-150 3D Glasses

I set the hdmi cable from my ps3 to my VSX-1120K, and from the VSX-1120K to the HDMI3 input to the DLP. I renamed the input to PC. I can play the movie and it looks like it is 3d, but the glasses don't do anything when I power them on. They flicker 3 times indicating they are powered on but nothing else happens. I then see I might need to set the DLP into 3D Mode 1 or Mode 2, but on my DLP, this option is disabled. Does anyone know what the problem is? I also have a Panasonic DMP-BT100 but I don't have any 3D Blu-rays to test it out on yet. Hoping to validate 3D using my PS3 with what seems to be a fairly straightforward test.

Any advice appreciated. BTW, I can't tell you how much I loathe Samsung and will never willingly purchase anything they make ever again.

I don't need an emitter, do I? I saw some threads where people had used them with their DLP Link glasses, but I don't think they need the emitter. The Samsung DLPset is supposed to barf this signal out automatically.

Thanks (at least for letting me vent).

yucky
03-05-11, 06:40 PM
I'm not sure why you're having such troubles.

With my nVidia 3D Vision Kit, the 3D was up and going in 5 minutes (the time it took to open the boxes and plug in the cables)

I can watch 3D Blu-Rays, and play 3D games.

The nVidia package really simplifies things.

With your system, have you set the 3D mode to Checkboard output on the source device?

and you should google "PS3 and checkerboard" as it seems PS3 isn't natively support checkerboard mode. So you'll need an adapter in between to do the conversion.

sharpie510
03-05-11, 06:48 PM
Hi Yucky.

The PS3 and Panasonic DMP-BT100 are both set to checkboard. What do you have your tv set to? Does it have to be in 3D Mode 1 or Mode 2? On my tv, these options are grayed out. I think I might have to have an emitter plugged in to get them to be enabled, but is that really true? If it is, then you can't use DLP Link glasses without some kind of emitter plugged in. The stupid samsung manual is of NO HELP. It doesn't even mention this 3D Mode setting.

yucky
03-05-11, 07:11 PM
Yes, I have the nVidia emitter plugged in.

The TV set to mode 1, std.

Based on the readings, I'm fairly certain that DLP Link doesn't need an emitter plugged in.

JackB
03-06-11, 03:34 PM
Has anyone tried the Monster Cable Max3D glasses with this TV? I made a quick try and got nothing to work.

kinmanc
03-08-11, 01:55 AM
I just received my Mitsubishi 3DC-100S kit, and I set it up as the following.

* PS3 and Comcast box connected to Denon 4311ci (html 1.4)
* Denon Monitor 1 to Samsung HL67A750 html1.
* Denon Monitor 2 to 3DC-100S, and
* 3DC out to Samsung html3 (renamed to PC)

The nice thing about 4311 is that it has two html outputs, so that I can use one to connect to the TV directly and the other to connect to the TV through 3DC-100S. That way I can use TV1 html1 for regular use, and htm3 for 3D, and that works great.

However, I still have several issues.

1. 3D movies and games in PS3 works great, but the picture is much darker when viewed with the 3D glasses. Is this normal?
2. When 3D is turned on, the dark area in the picture appears to turn red. Can something be done about that?
3. Every time I use 3D, I need to set the TV to turn on 3D in mode 1. This is rather inconvenient. Can the TV be automatically set? I consider programming my Harmony to do that, but there no discrete code for mode1.
4. When viewing a 2D channel in Comcast, the 100S's pass-thru mode does not seems to work. The picture and sound in the TV cuts in and out. I swapped couple of html cables without changing anything. Needless to say, I could not attempt any 3D videos on Comcast at all.

I'd really appreciate any help with the above issues. Thanks.

sharpie510
03-14-11, 10:18 PM
Anyone have an idea of the problem? Do I need to set the HL67a750 into 3D Mode 1 or 2? I don't seem to have such an option available in my setup menu. Do I need a firmware update?

I have a panasonic dmp-bdt100 in checkerboard out, a vsx-1120k avr (1.4), a Samsung HL67a750 and Viewsonic PGD-150 3D Glasses. I can view a 3D Blu-ray on my DLP, and it looks like 2 images overlayed (i.e., 3d, and the panasonic is outputting 3d checkerboard according to the info) but the glasses don't shutter on and off. What could be wrong? Is there something specific on the TV that I need to set? I've already changed the HDMI3 input name to "PC", but is there anything else? How do I troubleshoot this? I hate that Samsung has pretty much washed their hands on this. I will NEVER buy anything with a Samsung logo on it again.

yucky
03-14-11, 10:20 PM
have you checked to make sure the source is outputing 1080p res? Some tvs only enable 3d mode if the correct resolutions is given.

Can't really blame Samsung since it seems to work pretty well with other people who have the same TV. If anything, it's the whole industries fault for not cooperating to come up with an industry standard.

PaulGo
03-14-11, 10:24 PM
This option appears in the tools menu only after the TV is receiving the checkerboard signal. For DLP link use mode 2 unless the glasses have a reverse switch.

dennya
04-12-11, 12:39 AM
So I got everything set up on my 3D Vision, and the 3D setup isn't recognizing that I have a 3D ready display. :( I get "3D Ready Display Not Found" in the 3D setup wizard.

TV:
I'm connected to HDMI3/DVI, input is set to PC.
In the 3D Menu Picture/Picture Options/3D effect, I've set Mode 1 (Tried 2 as well)

PC:
3D Vision is active/recognized, and plugged into the 3D IR port on the right side of the TV set. (Tried it unplugged as well.)
Latest 270.51 drivers installed

Equipment:
GeForce 560 Ti
Samsung H67A750
Windows 7 x64

Any ideas? Internet searches make it sound like this should be plug-and-play easy with this set. I'm hoping I'm missing something obvious...

yucky
04-12-11, 01:33 AM
So I got everything set up on my 3D Vision, and the 3D setup isn't recognizing that I have a 3D ready display. :( I get "3D Ready Display Not Found" in the 3D setup wizard.

TV:
I'm connected to HDMI3/DVI, input is set to PC.
In the 3D Menu Picture/Picture Options/3D effect, I've set Mode 1 (Tried 2 as well)

PC:
3D Vision is active/recognized, and plugged into the 3D IR port on the right side of the TV set. (Tried it unplugged as well.)
Latest 270.51 drivers installed

Equipment:
GeForce 560 Ti
Samsung H67A750
Windows 7 x64

Any ideas? Internet searches make it sound like this should be plug-and-play easy with this set. I'm hoping I'm missing something obvious...

make sure the emitter is also plugged into the USB.

And please don't use beta drivers first if you're trying to troubleshoot something. Commonsense 101.

bruce73
06-22-11, 01:59 PM
Anyone have an idea of the problem? Do I need to set the HL67a750 into 3D Mode 1 or 2? I don't seem to have such an option available in my setup menu. Do I need a firmware update?

Make sure the source is output as RGB, as well as 1920 x 1080p.

whiznant
06-25-11, 11:12 AM
Hi everyone! First time post to AVS. I just wanted to share my experience with Monster 3D Maxx glasses on this set and the wonderful customer service I've had with Monster.

These glasses are new on the market and so there's no much out on the net yet. I received these glasses about a week ago and when I plugged them in the first thing I noticed was red blacks. I knew this was an issue with dlp link and also that there were a couple different brands of glasses that supposedly fully blocked the dlp link and, in turn, the red blacks. Since theses glasses were too new to have any info on the net about this issue with our sets, I took a leap of faith and purchased these with the idea that since they were "top of the line" and "universal" that surely they would block the dlp link. Well, they didn't, so I thought at first.

I called Monster and spoke to a nice young lady and when I explained the issue I was having, and when she couldn't answer my question, she started live chatting with another tech support guy in San Francisco (she was in Utah) and she had him call me. She called it "escalating" He did and when he wasn't able to help, he immediately contacted the actual engineer who designed the glasses. A couple of days past and when I got a call back he suggested using the transmitter to go into the settings adjustment and adjusting the delay. Theory was that the color wheel was causing some delay and therefor not blocking the dlp link. My first thought was that my set doesn't use a color wheel so this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and this would not work; having already resigned to the fact that I was going to have to return these glasses. Well, I ADJUSTED THE DELAY AND BAM! NO MORE RED BLACKS! Also discovered that I was able to get a better 3D image by also adjusting the lens shutter time. These glasses are extremely configurable and IMO worth the extra money that I spent. They truly are universal.

Just wanted to say how happy I am with these glasses now that this issue is fixed and to applaud Monster's support of a fine product in an age of dwindling customer service and to possibly help someone else out who's experiencing the same problem.

rgsavage
07-25-11, 11:28 PM
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. I have been looking for 6 months, off and on, for this information. I guess I never put the correct keywords in the search eng.

I'm pretty sure I know what i need to do to get 3D to my HL67A750, my question is about the HDMI switch.

I have an HD blur ray player, but I also would like to see what DirectTv's 3D programming looks like, plus I might get a gaming system that does 3D. I plan to purchase the 3D adapter from Tru3d.com. I know I will need a switch to accomplish my 3D plan, however Tru3D.com's HDMI switch is 98.00 + S&H. I see other HDMI switches online for 20.00 or 30.00. Does anyone know about any of the other switches or should I just purchase the one listed at Tru3D?

Also, is there a preference between the Xpand x102 and optoma BG-zd101 glasses, which are online a lot cheaper then what Tru3D.com carry them?

Thanks again. I hope this thread is not dead. I look forward to your response.