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homcom
04-06-09, 04:43 PM
2009 NCAA Men's Basketball Championship in HDTV on CBS
The National Championship Game
Monday April 6th
9pm ET - Prelude to a Championship
9:21pm ET - #2 Michigan State University vs. #1 University of North Carolina


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CBS Sportsline - The Edge
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/edge/finalfour/NC/MIST

National championship: 1 North Carolina vs. 2 Michigan State

North Carolina (33-4)
Coach: Roy Williams, six years at North Carolina, six years in NCAA tournament.

How they got here: At-large bid; South first round: def. No. 16 seed Radford 101-58; South second round: def. No. 8 seed LSU 84-70; South regional semifinals: def. No. 4 seed Gonzaga 98-77; South regional final: def. No. 2 seed Oklahoma 72-60; National semifinal: def. East No. 3 seed Villanova 83-69.

They'll win the title if ...: They don't go cold against Michigan State. The Spartans have won just three games all season in which they allowed more than 70 points. North Carolina has scored less than 70 points just once. Since returning the lineup, Ty Lawson has been even better than he was pre-toe injury. Lawson is averaging 20 ppg and has just six turnovers in four tournament games. Wayne Ellington is playing better than at any other time this season and with no hesitation in his game. Tyler Hansbrough is averaging 21 points and eight rebounds on the season. Danny Green, something of a Swiss Army knife for the Tar Heels, can play at least three positions for extended minutes and has played terrific on-ball defense.

Go-to guys: Lawson beat out teammate Tyler Hansbrough for ACC player of the year honors even though Hansbrough led the Tar Heels in scoring in the regular season and will be the first Tar Heel to lead his team in both scoring and rebounding for four consecutive seasons. Lawson scored in double figures and led the league in assists. Danny Green, who played a marvelous "sixth man" role for the last three years, stepped into the starting lineup and gave the Heels instant firepower from 3-point range. He's another double-figure scorer along with Lawson, Hansbrough and Wayne Ellington.

Strengths: The Tar Heels have quickness, one of the best starting fives in the country, and a killer instinct that can lead to big scoring runs if an opponent stumbles at any point in the game. They can shoot the three as well as the two, are relentless on the boards, and are unselfish, ranking second in the country in assists and sixth in assist-to-turnover ratio. They also get to the free-throw line a lot and convert their chances.

Weaknesses: Without the injured Marcus Ginyard, the Heels lack a real shutdown defender on the perimeter and can be vulnerable against a 3-point bombing team. Duke showed that by leading the Heels at halftime of both meetings. Hansbrough, with all his aggressiveness, is a not a particularly strong defender inside. Ginyard's absence also affects depth, though the unexpected return of freshman Tyler Zeller from a wrist injury has helped depth up front. Turnovers have been a problem at times, but not in the tournament, where Lawson has been almost perfect with the ball.

Michigan State (31-6)
Coach: Tom Izzo, 14 years at Michigan State, 12 years in NCAA tournament.

How they got here: At-large bid; Midwest first round: def. No. 15 seed Robert Morris 77-62; Midwest second round: def. No. 10 seed Southern California 74-69; Midwest regional semifinals: def. No. 3 seed Kansas 67-62; Midwest regional final: def. No. 1 seed Louisville 64-52; National semifinal: def. West No. 1 seed Connecticut 82-73.

They'll win the title if ...: They take advantage of cozy environs in Detroit, just 90 miles from East Lansing. They didn't do so back in December, when the Tar Heels knocked them around 98-63. Goran Suton did not play that day, and his presence this time around is a significant addition. Michigan State is nearly unbeatable when its wins the rebounding battle. The Spartans outrebounded 20 consecutive opponents to end the regular season -- and three of their five tournament opponents -- compiling a 26-4 record when winning the battle of the boards. Led by Big Ten defensive player of the year Travis Walton (6-2, 190), the Spartans have also been playing terrific perimeter defense. Kansas was 3-of-12 from 3-point distance, Louisville was 6-of-18 and UConn 2-of-6. The Spartans are 19-0 (3-0 in tournament) when scoring 70 or more points and 26-0 (4-0 in tournament) when allowing fewer than 70. Michigan State also went 18-1 when committing less than 15 turnovers.

Go-to guys: Sophomore guard Kalin Lucas (6-0, 180) was named Big Ten player of the year after averaging 16.5 points in league play, boosting his production to 18.0 points per game on the road as the Spartans broke a school record with eight conference road wins. Senior center Goran Suton (6-10, 245) was the first Michigan State player since 1997 to win a league rebounding title, averaging 8.4 boards and 10.0 points in the Big Ten. Junior forward Raymar Morgan (6-8, 225) was slowed by illness, but averaged 12.1 points and 7.9 rebounds in the nine conference games in which he played at least 20 minutes.

Strengths: Big Ten coach of the year Tom Izzo has guided the Spartans to 12 consecutive appearances and a 26-10 record in the NCAA tournament, including a national championship in 2000 and Final Fours in 1999, 2001 and 2005. He did a masterful job this year, winning the Big Ten by four games -- the league's biggest margin since 1985 -- despite injuries and illnesses that forced him to use 14 different starting lineups.

Weaknesses: The Spartans were 2-5 in the regular season when allowing 70 or more points, including lopsided losses against ACC members Maryland (80-62) and North Carolina (98-63). They aren't much of a threat from downtown; through games of March 8, they ranked 260th in Division I with 5.2 3-pointers per game.

bdfox18doe
04-06-09, 05:28 PM
[B][I]It's very important to be specific with your info. .

Ok, I hope UNC loses on OTA,Cable, and DBS everywhere :D

birdsg
04-06-09, 06:52 PM
game cant get here soon enough. go heels

CPanther95
04-06-09, 08:52 PM
Thread stuck.

Go Tarheels.

homcom
04-06-09, 08:52 PM
Pregame show and National Anthem now on CBS College Sports.

rebkell
04-06-09, 09:19 PM
WDEF-DT in Chattanooga, the first 10 or 12 minutes didn't have voices, background and crowd noise was there, the center channels( I assume) were at such a low volume you could barely tell they were talking. That got straightened out and now we have probably a 1/4 of a second lip sync problem.

Picture is great :)

jefbal99
04-06-09, 09:22 PM
Looks pretty via WLNS OTA in Lansing MI.

100" projection screen via Sanyo Z-60

VisionOn
04-06-09, 09:28 PM
Those wide shots look like crap here. Very noisy.

hphase
04-06-09, 09:33 PM
Anyone else seeing a green line down the right edge of the screen? I don't remember hearing about this on CBS before.

WCBS-DT via Comcast cable.

And I'm rooting for the Big 10.

owine
04-06-09, 09:34 PM
Looks great and the sound mix is amazing.

RDJR
04-06-09, 09:37 PM
The sound is amazing. Watching via Directv. Michigan State in big trouble early.

rrainwater
04-06-09, 09:58 PM
WSPA just showed a ticker saying their was a problem with the digital signal and CBS in NY said they were working on it. I'm not seeing or hearing a issue atm though.

hphase
04-06-09, 10:00 PM
What sort of problem? Video? Audio?

rrainwater
04-06-09, 10:01 PM
What sort of problem? Video? Audio?

I'm not seeing or hearing a problem with WPSA-DT OTA. The only thing wrong is the stupid ticker WSPA is running telling us there is a problem.

caliwxdude
04-06-09, 10:25 PM
Anyone else seeing a green line down the right edge of the screen? I don't remember hearing about this on CBS before.

WCBS-DT via Comcast cable.

And I'm rooting for the Big 10.

I'm also seeing that green line on KOVR-DT (via Comcast), but I'm only noticing it during network commercial breaks. Goes away during local breaks, so it must be a network thing.

EDIT: Yes, definitely seeing it now during the halftime show. Weird.

owine
04-06-09, 10:42 PM
Yeah seeing the green line on WBBM-DT Chicago via Comcast.

hphase
04-06-09, 10:48 PM
Am I crazy? (Don't answer that!) I don't recall ever seeing this on CBS programs before.

homcom
04-06-09, 10:54 PM
Seeing the green line on WWJ in Detroit via Comcast.

SNF Mixer
04-06-09, 10:56 PM
Hats off to CBS for coverage. I was lucky enough to attend Saturday's semi-finals in person while working in Detroit. CBS handed the building PA an effects feed so we could hear squeaks, rims, and bands in the stands. Jim Nantz's live starting lineups sounded great in the building. I was worried about how echo-y it must sound on TV (why can't I just enjoy the game??). The interface between PA and TV always adds to the chaos of the job.

Watching the final at home tonight. Looks and sounds great. And the interface with the PA isn't noticeable at home at all.

Nice job by everyone.

Go Heels!

WS

jefbal99
04-06-09, 10:56 PM
My overscan is set at 2% on my the projector and I don't see a green line

homcom
04-06-09, 11:02 PM
My overscan is set at 2% on my the projector and I don't see a green line

I can only see when at 0% overscan.

hphase
04-06-09, 11:02 PM
My overscan is set at 2% on my the projector and I don't see a green line
My LG set is in "Computer Mode" (where it always is) and it's quite noticeable. Moreso because it isn't usually there. It's not like CBS to try something new or let something like this slip by on a high-profile event.

But, quite frankly, I'm surprised at the lack of posts on this topic. Maybe not that many of us are watching. (Or listening, Wendel...)

Lee L
04-06-09, 11:05 PM
I see the green line also. Too bad they have this on there. I have been running at zero overcan for over a year now and have never seen it on CBS before. Probably 10-15 pixels wide.

Otherwise it is a pretty good broadcast. The audio in the surrounds is nicely done, though there are a few pretty loud individuals I can hear from time to time. Hopefully none of them say any naughty words to get CBS in trouble again. ;)

homcom
04-06-09, 11:48 PM
Confetti should be outlawed during HD broadcasts, it does bad things for PQ.

VisionOn
04-06-09, 11:49 PM
... and Franklin Street goes wild!

It's going to be a long night for the Chapel Hill PD. :D

http://www.wral.com/news/video/4902735/

That's a lot of people

homcom
04-07-09, 12:11 AM
Another great edition of, "One Shining Moment". It has become one the great traditions of the NCAA tournament and one of the classiest piece of television around.

mr. wally
04-07-09, 07:27 PM
i watched via san fran bay area cbs affiliate vie e*.

recorded the game. 2nd 1/2 i had complete signal breakdown, pausing skipping macros cut outs. lasted for last 2/3 of second half

any one else experience this?

i just got a new dvr installed and i'm thinking i got a defective hard drive.


help. let me know if anyone else has this problem

sportsound
04-07-09, 07:35 PM
Wendell? I mixed pregame/studio Saturday and Championship Game Monday. Net mics were handed off to the PA prefade on Saturday and I changed it to postfade Monday- much to the chagrin of the in-house pa mixer. He wasn't pleased, but I was.
Phil Adler

owine
04-07-09, 08:46 PM
Wendell? I mixed pregame/studio Saturday and Championship Game Monday. Net mics were handed off to the PA prefade on Saturday and I changed it to postfade Monday- much to the chagrin of the in-house pa mixer. He wasn't pleased, but I was.
Phil Adler
Amazing work with the mix during the game. Even the untrained ears I watched with commented multiple times about the surround mix.

SNF Mixer
04-07-09, 10:05 PM
Wendell? I mixed pregame/studio Saturday and Championship Game Monday. Net mics were handed off to the PA prefade on Saturday and I changed it to postfade Monday- much to the chagrin of the in-house pa mixer. He wasn't pleased, but I was.
Phil Adler

Sounded good at home Monday night. I worried from the stands Saturday that the net mics would 'thunder' through the PA back into the TV mix, like happens in many NBA arenas. The bands were super loud in the building Saturday night, again causing me to worry about that noise getting into your studio show mics and other mics. (I worry too much.)

I always fight not to give effects mics and mixes to house PA guys. The fear of a PA guy cranking up things to the level of feedback scares me to death. The NHL wanted to do it at the first Winter Classic in Buffalo, and after I pleaded NO!, they dropped the idea.

Come to think of it, I guess I heard "squeaks" on the concourse, through the monitors on the concourse levels. I think I heard just the nets and bands inside the bowl.

Either way, nice job by you, Jack, and the Heels!

Wendel

Ken H
04-07-09, 10:38 PM
SNF, why didn't you let me know you were in town?

ak3883
04-07-09, 11:11 PM
Just got home from Detroit today, and find my Comcast DVR recorded 3 hours of pixelated GARBAGE on Monday night. I can't view a single second of the entire game.

I'm pissed I cannot offload/capture the One Shining Moment video in HD(anyone have any ideas?)

I have no clue whose fault it was, probably Comcast's.... this has never happened, I have strong signal levels, DVR acts fine, and recorded everything else flawlessly this weekend. This is KYW in Philly...

If I was a UNC fan and I got back and found this out, I would be out for blood if my HD copy of the national championship game that my team won was destroyed.

Hardcore Legend
04-07-09, 11:14 PM
I pointed out in the Final Four thread how pixalated my local affiliates were. For comparison sake, I watched the Comcast OnDemand HD highlights and it was only slightly less pixalated. The really noticeable part is the area around the team names.

MRM4
04-08-09, 12:51 PM
My guess is it has more to do with your local station than your provider. Here in Knoxville, our CBS station has become infamous for its bad pixelation during live sporting events. During Monday night's game, it was as bad as I have seen it on there. When I saw the replay of Saturday's game on CBS College Sports, the PQ was outstanding.

Ken H
04-08-09, 03:59 PM
My guess is it has more to do with your local station than your provider. Here in Knoxville, our CBS station has become infamous for its bad pixelation during live sporting events. During Monday night's game, it was as bad as I have seen it on there. When I saw the replay of Saturday's game on CBS College Sports, the PQ was outstanding.

The truth of the matter is, it could be either local station or provider, or both.