Hmm... I figured there would be a Myth Busters thread out here somewhere but I searched and didn't find one.

Anyhoo...

Cool episode last night -- lots of big booms and excellent high-speed (super slow-motion) shots.

On the "Speed" bus myth though, a bus taking a very tight corner at 50 mph and not flipping over, I have to call BS.

Two things:

First, from the footage, it looked like that after the bus made the corner, it do d not look like the bus was still going 50 mph or better. It looked like the speed had dropped down to about 35-40 mph. At this point (in the movie), the bomb on the bus would have detonated because the spedometer went under 50 mph. I know Jamie and Adam both were doing 50 when they entered the corner, but my guess is that they either took their foot off the gas pedal or kept it depressed the same amount while they went through the corner. Obviously, with the bus making the corner and skidding this would slow the bus down.

Secondly, after making the corner, both Adam and Jamie went off the coned-off "road". In the movie this would have put them off the road and into the ditch or somewhere where it would have been difficult to maintain 50 mph.

I enjoyed the show, though. It was funny when the car going under the semi-truck trailer had it's top sheared-off and the breaks failed and it flew over the earthen berm.

They must be running out ideals to do some dumb specials like this one.

Well, I liked it. It's better than most of their 2hr specials.

I guess Kari is out on maternity?
Don't like the new girl yet.

Kari is already back at work. So the new girl will be gone.

Oh come on! The new girl is HOT. She used to be on a four wheel drive modification and hop-up TV show on SPIKE TV.

I guess Kari is out on maternity?
Don't like the new girl yet.

I'm not a big fan, either. I think Kari does a good job keeping the other two on track.

However, it's always nice to see a girl that can weld...which is almost as good as a girl that will watch football with you and actually be into it... ;)

The new girl is Jessi Combs and I think she will grow on you. Very talented around the garage and she's good in front of the camera.

In Canada they have yet to show Mythbusters in HD even though we have a seperate Discovery HD channel. My question is how long has Mythbusters been producing episodes in HD?

several years

Kari or Jessi? I don't care as long as they have a hot and smart woman around while the guys look like nerds when they blow up stuff. :)

Kari or Jessi? I don't care as long as they have a hot and smart woman around while the guys look like nerds when they blow up stuff. :)

Jessi, I used to be into 4x4 buggies and watched Extreme 4x4 all the time. Last name might be different for obviuos reasons. It's been a season or two since she was on the Spike network. I like her.

All right, Jessi hooking up a car engine to nitrous oxide to double its power for the skipping car was pretty amazing. Of course you can learn how to do this from magazines but it seemed like Jessi does this every week.

I don't care for her much. Everyone else on the show can't act, and they don't try to hide it when they are going through their lines in the scripted scenes. Jessi seems to be mugging for the camera. I guess she's good at her job, but she gets on my nerves.

I was a big fan of Mythbusters since the first episode but the past couple seasons have been difficult to watch. A show like this needs a rough outline, not a script but obviously Discovery does not realize this at all. It's almost painful to watch Adam and Jamie read what's on their "minds".

I would be quite happy to see Tory and Kari gone and just have Grant stick around as a helper. I liked it when Adam and Jamie were given the time to say more than 10 words and they had the whole hour to explore a topic.

While I agree with some of you that the show has tended to jam too much in sometimes, I dont really think two tests are that bad. Some of it can sound kind of forced, but in the end sometimes the akwardness is what makes the show funny.

I ahve been turning my little nephews and nieces on to this show and they are actually facinated by it. If this helps them learn even a small amount of information beyond school and makes it fun for them then I am good.

I am still a fan of the show and most everyone on it cant really say I have complaints.

I forgot to watch the last few episodes so I haven't seen Jessi at all.

The show with the dimpled car was mind boggling. That one was just amazing.

People don't appreciate how hard they work. They worked three solid days on the falling bullets episode to get a few minutes on the show.

Of course, if you just watch the last five minutes of the show you get 90% of the science without sitting through all the commercials and experiments that didn't' work. :D

Missed it, what was the dimpled car?

The original myth said dirt on a car would make it more aerodynamic because it would be like the dimples in a golf ball. That one got busted.

But the MythBusters went a step further. They covered a Ford Taurus in clay and measured the gas mileage. Then they carved out 1,000 dimples all over the car, putting the removed clay inside so the weight would be constant, and they measured the gas mileage again. Do dimples improve gas milemage?

Spoiler alert. Answer below.




The dimples increased gas mileage from 26 to 29 mph!

Seems like every myth has to be an explosion on this show.

Seems like every myth has to be an explosion on this show.


Yep, the past few seasons have really devolved into creative ways to blow things up. Meanwhile, the science content (which was never stellar) has gone down.

I liked it better when it was Jaime and Adam with occasional help from they Mythterns. I don't enjoy the equal time spend with Tory, Grant, & Jari.

It looks like they are moving to Monday nights - at least for the last two shows of the season. It seems like a lot of the Cable Nets are shuffling their schedules.

Yep, the past few seasons have really devolved into creative ways to blow things up.
They don't hide that they purposely end every show with some kind of mass destruction. That blew up in their face (meaning it didn't!) when testing the "bull in a china shop" myth.

Every episode has an explosion.

Every episode Adam throws up.

:D

Reminder: Mythbusters moves to Monday at 9PM/6PM starting today

I can't wait until Kari is back. This new chick's voice and acting are atrocious.

Reminder: Mythbusters moves to Monday at 9PM/6PM starting today

The Monday viewings are for this and next week only. Mythbusters will be back on Wednesdays after the holidays.

OMG! New Mythbusters!

OMG! New Mythbusters!

And only one of them had to go to the hospital this week.

I can't imagine Kari climbing up into their fake helicopter as well as Jessi did.

Non copywrited slush drink LOL

Notice the margarita company in the credits? Now I wonder what was in a slushy...

And only one of them had to go to the hospital this week.

I can't imagine Kari climbing up into their fake helicopter as well as Jessi did.

That's what I love about this show. They can sometimes take ever precaution in the world with some myths and totally botch safety in another.

I am enjoying Jessi, but can she please stop yelling whenever she explains a myth?

^I really miss Kari...

I like this clip the best. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlv3F3p9SpU

Kari is back. Did she look awesome firing those high-caliber weapons or what!

Kari is back. Did she look awesome firing those high-caliber weapons or what!

Damn, I missed it. Hopefully the DVR recorded it. Am glad Kari is back though!

Kari is back. Did she look awesome firing those high-caliber weapons or what!

much better than the blonde troll that filled in for her

much better than the blonde troll that filled in for her

I think they're both great. Jessi has a grating voice but knows a lot more about mechanics than Kari. Kari is far more witty and entertaining, assuming that they don't give them funny lines like "bullet absorbent".

Kari is back. Did she look awesome firing those high-caliber weapons or what!

It is good to have her back. Although my girlfriend (retired air force) was laughing at her girlie grip on the guns and getting punched in the eye by the scope in the super slo-mo.

Is it just me or are they now just making up these myths? Its been years since i have even heard of the myth before they test it.

1) I don't know if Kari is "back" - these segments look like they may have been filmed before her time off.


wrong, after a 10 second search:

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-byron-is-back.html

Although my girlfriend (retired air force) was laughing at her girlie grip on the guns and getting punched in the eye by the scope in the super slo-mo.

Wasn't that a .50 caliber gun she was shooting, the kind that can take down a plane? I'm sure the punch from one of those is a lot more than you'd expect after shooting rifles.

It is good to have her back. Although my girlfriend (retired air force) was laughing at her girlie grip on the guns and getting punched in the eye by the scope in the super slo-mo.

Is it just me or are they now just making up these myths? Its been years since i have even heard of the myth before they test it.

Note: I haven't watched the show yet, I'm just assuming it's a 50cal from other posts.

I'm ex-Army, father is retired Army, and a 50cal has one hell of a recoil. I've seen large men get hit with a scope before, it takes a few shots to get used to. To be honest, the only reason I didn't get hit was because I anticipated the recoil.

Kari had the 50 cal. The two guys had smaller rifles.

Glad having her back. Like the bigger bOObies too.

I'm ex-Army, father is retired Army, and a 50cal has one hell of a recoil. I've seen large men get hit with a scope before, it takes a few shots to get used to. To be honest, the only reason I didn't get hit was because I anticipated the recoil.
I watched it again and it looks like she didn't get whacked with the scope, only her hat did. This was as far back as it recoiled.

http://home.comcast.net/~scowl/kari.jpg

She had about two inches between her face and the scope.

Is it just me or are they now just making up these myths? Its been years since i have even heard of the myth before they test it.

The bullet proof car myth came from the TV show Burn Notice. They mentioned that it came from a recent TV show when they were setting it up but didn't mention which network. I happen to watch Burn Notice and remembered they did something like that recently.

I think they're both great. Jessi has a grating voice but knows a lot more about mechanics than Kari. Kari is far more witty and entertaining, assuming that they don't give them funny lines like "bullet absorbent".

Mythbusters has no writers.

wrong, after a 10 second search:

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-byron-is-back.html

Fair enough; just an initial impression I had because they didn't make a bigger deal about her being back, given they did mention something on-air when she got to the point when she had to take leave.

No misinformation meant.

Mythbusters has no writers.

They do for the "Warning: Science Content" sections. Jamie or Adam write them.

I watched it again and it looks like she didn't get whacked with the scope, only her hat did. This was as far back as it recoiled.

http://home.comcast.net/~scowl/kari.jpg

She had about two inches between her face and the scope.

Being a civilian I can only ask. Is that proper technique for the butte of the gun to be that low on the shoulder? My girlfriend said it is not.

I'm a civilian but, you have to remember, that's a BIG gun and that pic is on shot AFTER the bullet has been fired. You have THAT much kick back and it doesn't matter how much you prepare, something is gonna end up looking out of place.

They do for the "Warning: Science Content" sections. Jamie or Adam write them.

Also Robert Lee's narration which opens the show and bumps every commercial break ("Coming up..." and so on) is written by someone named Jessica Mallett, in case you thought he was making up those puns on the fly.

You have THAT much kick back and it doesn't matter how much you prepare, something is gonna end up looking out of place.
The most amazing thing was once she pulled the trigger, it blew the dust off rocks four feet away on both sides of the gun. It looked more like she was launching a small rocket than firing a gun.

The most amazing thing was once she pulled the trigger, it blew the dust off rocks four feet away on both sides of the gun. It looked more like she was launching a small rocket than firing a gun.

They aren't called .50 cal for nothing. lol

While were on the subject... Here's something I can't figure out, if it's real or fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

They aren't called .50 cal for nothing. lol

And if I really knew what a "caliber" was exactly, I would understand that! :D

xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFt2YQe8pGE

Being a civilian I can only ask. Is that proper technique for the butte of the gun to be that low on the shoulder? My girlfriend said it is not.

It probably knocked her shoulder back and up due to recoil. But to answer your question, if that was her position before firing, your wife is correct.

The first few times firing a 50cal, your shoulder is bruised as hell the next day, until you get a feel for firing it.

Kudos to Kari for taking on that bad boy.

And as someone else noted, this was definitely shot post-baby, as the first thing I noticed were how large her breasts were (compared to before). :D

btw, civilians can fire a 50cal if they really wanted to. A decent firing range could hook ya up.

btw, civilians can fire a 50cal if they really wanted to. A decent firing range could hook ya up.

My understanding is that they are banned for all civilian use in many states including California. Because... come on... what in hell do you need a .50 caliber weapon for? They're only good for stopping vehicles and knocking down aircraft. Mythbusters can use these weapons only under the supervision of law enforcement agencies.

My understanding is that they are banned for all civilian use in many states including California. Because... come on... what in hell do you need a .50 caliber weapon for? .

up-armored deer? :)

Loved seeing Kari back, hope they can keep coming up with myths to bust.

And watching her bust (it), specifically. :D

My understanding is that they are banned for all civilian use in many states including California. Because... come on... what in hell do you need a .50 caliber weapon for? They're only good for stopping vehicles and knocking down aircraft. Mythbusters can use these weapons only under the supervision of law enforcement agencies.

Best source I can find says .50 cal rifles are only illegal in California.

Firing a .50 cal is fun.

Kari is back and the other girl leaves without any mention.

Kari is still fat though.

Sorry, if that's "fat" sign me up.

The bullet proof car myth came from the TV show Burn Notice. They mentioned that it came from a recent TV show when they were setting it up but didn't mention which network. I happen to watch Burn Notice and remembered they did something like that recently.

Missed the ep - was it about shooting the engine block?

Kari is still fat though.

Sounds like a guy who knows how to charm the ladies! ;)

Sounds like a guy who knows how to charm the ladies! ;)
And he wonders why he's "Lone." :D

lol @ this page.
I came to "lurk" just at the right time. :p

If you want to see fat on Mythbusters, watch the episode where they tested to see if shrinking blue jeans while wearing them could cut off your circulation. Grant had a very unattractive "muffin top" which hung farther and farther over the waist band as the pants shrunk. I bet he started doing sit-ups after the episode aired.

Sorry, if that's "fat" sign me up.

All pudgy in the middle from the pregnancy.

lol, well... dOOd. You try having a kid and seeing if you still have a gut afterwards. Beside, it's probably just gonna "inflate" right back up shortly after kid 1 if, were with her.

What they do with the other girl? Fire her?

She was weird looking. Why they even felt they needed a female guest host?

I guess for ratings.

What they do with the other girl? Fire her?

She was weird looking.

Lone Wanderer, you must really be the babe magnet with your keen appraisals of women's physical appearances. ;)

What they do with the other girl? Fire her?

She was weird looking. Why they even felt they needed a female guest host?

I guess for ratings.

"Fire her?" She was just filling in for Kari while Kari was off on maternity leave. What's so hard to understand? :confused:

I wouln't kick either one out of bed for eating crackers.

I wouln't kick either one out of bed for eating crackers.

But would you "fire" one if the other showed up? :D

But would you "fire" one if the other showed up? :D

I'd probably be happy to just stand between them.:p

Or I'd make them share the crackers.

It feels like they are running out of myths to bust. That soccer ball off the back of the truck thing was pretty weak as concept. Still pretty entertaining to watch them build and test, but ultimately they are going need myths to bust.

Yeah, that really wasn't much of a myth. I don't know how many people would say afterwards, "I'll be darned. The laws of physics are correct."

What next? Dropping cannon balls of different weights off a building to see if they hit the ground at the same time?

Yeah, that really wasn't much of a myth. I don't know how many people would say afterwards, "I'll be darned. The laws of physics are correct."

What next? Dropping cannon balls of different weights off a building to see if they hit the ground at the same time?

They've already done that (actually -- with a feather in a vaccuum vs. other heavy objects).

Kari is back and the other girl leaves without any mention.

Kari is still fat though.

I think she looks good.

BTW, her belly isn't the only thing that's gotten bigger... :D

They've already done that (actually -- with a feather in a vaccuum vs. other heavy objects).

Oh shoot, I must have missed that one. How did it turn out? :)

What really seems to be missing with these myths isnt really the myth itself but how they explained the results.

It's not the answer that's so much fun, its the why.

But when testing laws of physics, we already know why. To me it's the work they put into testing them that gets me. It seemed like canceling out the forward and backward momentum of an object would be so easy but it was much harder than they thought to get them to cancel out exactly.

Occasionally they'll get a completely surprising result, like using the aircraft slide as a "parachute".

Laws of physics test was boring, I forward over it.

Spy test was alright.

They are running out of myths to test, and just making up excuses to destroy things.

I'd agree that watching them test the "myth" of physics is underwhelming. The spy gar gadgets was pretty fun, though.

Most weeks, I'd be just as happy with a half-hour show with Jaime/Adam and leave out the former "Mythterns". The two halves of the show never even interact anymore.

I'd agree that watching them test the "myth" of physics is underwhelming. The spy gar gadgets was pretty fun, though.

Most weeks, I'd be just as happy with a half-hour show with Jaime/Adam and leave out the former "Mythterns". The two halves of the show never even interact anymore.

I think alot of people would agree that the build team is the weak link on the show. I guess they have their own warehouse and crew to do their myths which is why we never see all of them working together anymore. However, the build team is usually the team that will just completely skip over safety and do the most reckless thing possible. Tori on the treadmill, and dropping a boat onto the crane come to mind first. :D

I agree abotu the safety aspect (I spend part of my life as a safety engineer). I'm not sure if the "last minute phone call" was staged or not to provide "drama" for us. But I couldn't believe they were going to shoot an actual person off a treadmill on a moving truck when a weight would serve the same purpose.

Just like the "hanging form a ledge" myth. They could just have a ledge 6' off the ground and puck up their feet, but they decide to go with a 75' building because it would be more "authentic". And it bites them in the behind with a trip to the ER. I thought maybe thye would learn smoething from that, but this proved me wrong.

I realize that most of the dialog on the show is probably scripted anyway, but they also don't do nearly as good of a job at delivery as Adam/Jaime.

I don't really care about the myths I think. I was too busy starring at Kari's chest anyway.

As for the "gravity" myth, how bout if we just thinking about it like a Brainiac show?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSZajwsq1mM

Regarding safety, in a way I've come to view MythBusters as the closest thing the US has to Top Gear. They've done some really questionable things on Top Gear, resulting in a few injuries ranging from minor to serious. Thankfully there haven't been any serious injuries for the MythBusters crew, but I'm kind of thinking that it's just a matter of time. :eek:

My favorite lack of safety from the build team was when they were testing if some exploding cylinder was lethal. (i forget the exact myth) They went way overboard reinforcing where it was suppose to fire into... only to forget to strap the thing to the table. so when it exploded the cylinder shot across the room away from all that reinforcement.

I was like "how do you not strap that down?"

Some of the best "myths" are the alcohol-related ones. Tori always ends up doing something stupid, nearly getting hurt every time. Good stuff.

Here's one of the segments in this episode in a nut shell. Although, slightly less... "scientific".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uT6gv5yLZ0&feature=related

****ing Hilarious episode.

They really need some completely original myths to bust. Still, another show devoted to duct tape wasn't too bad. No matter what, the show is at least worth watching if for no other reason than Kari--who was looking great on this ep!

I want to see someone try and climb a wall using wads if duct tape if this show has proved anything it is that duct tape can be used for just about anything well except used to make a barrier to stop a car.

..... duct tape can be used for just about anything well except used to make a barrier to stop a car.
That might have worked if they made it longer, so that the stretch would have slowed the car gradually.

I thought that, when the car crumpled upon impact, that a sharp piece of the damaged car might have cut through the tape. I couldn't tell from the angle they showed, though.

if this show has proved anything it is that duct tape can be used for just about anything well except used to make a barrier to stop a car.

I'd like to see them try it again, but create a series of duct tape based nets/webs to slow and then capture the car.

The car that missed the duct tape and crashed... that was pretty cool. :)

Stopping a car - yet another pointless myth that could be solved with F=ma. At least with the bridge they did the calculation of the force required to break a single piece * the number of pieces.

They had obviously done the calculation, hence the people being in the car for the first test (when it obviosuly wouldn't work) and not being in the car for the later tests. It just would be nice not not insult our intelligence.

Stopping a car - yet another pointless myth that could be solved with F=ma. At least with the bridge they did the calculation of the force required to break a single piece * the number of pieces.

They had obviously done the calculation, hence the people being in the car for the first test (when it obviosuly wouldn't work) and not being in the car for the later tests. It just would be nice not not insult our intelligence.

Basic physics will answer almost all of the myths or questions broached on this show...if you want a show where they sit around and discuss equations all day to disprove or prove these myths then you should probably look elsewhere...or readjust your expectations of what people actually want to see on TV (because that isn't it).

Stopping a car - yet another pointless myth that could be solved with F=ma. At least with the bridge they did the calculation of the force required to break a single piece * the number of pieces.
If duct tape agreed that F always =ma, they wouldn't need to have done the show. Complex materials like duct tape are never that simple. The stuff stretches, its adhesive has limitations, and the force to tear it is much lower than it is to break it.

All these were unpredictable variables that made for an entertaining show.

I realize that discussing equations isn't good TV, but at least acknowledge the science. They calculated that the bridge concept would work - but it was still entertaining to see them make a bridge from duct tape.

They obviously calculated that the duct tape wouldn't work for stopping a car, or they wouldn't have had two people riding in the car and risked suffering a 60 mph car crash (see last week's episonde on how devestating that would have been to the two drivers - helemts or not). I don't have a problem with them testing stuff that can be done with an equation - I have a problem with them pretending the equation doesn't exist (particularly when they do both in the same episode).

I don't have a problem with them testing stuff that can be done with an equation - I have a problem with them pretending the equation doesn't exist (particularly when they do both in the same episode).
Since you understand this so well, why don't you prove on paper that the duct tape couldn't have stopped the car?

Show all your work, please.

Take 20 or so pallets of duct tape and line them up in some order and the car should stop after hitting that. They chose to stop where they did. As they stated they could have made a wall of duct tape 10 feet thick. They chose arbitrarily to stop where they did in wall thickness and length.

If duct tape agreed that F always =ma, they wouldn't need to have done the show. Complex materials like duct tape are never that simple. The stuff stretches, its adhesive has limitations, and the force to tear it is much lower than it is to break it.

All these were unpredictable variables that made for an entertaining show.

Exactly. And not to mention F=ma is only correct in a perfect environment, and we don't live in a perfect world.

C'mon, that's basic physics.

Another great episode and also... Kari's husband is one lucky ****ing sob.

Since you understand this so well, why don't you prove on paper that the duct tape couldn't have stopped the car?

Show all your work, please.

Okay - I finished high school, so I can do this. For ballpark calculations, let's give the car 1 meter of stopping distance, assuming the tape barrier flexes that much. So, decellerating form 60 mps to 0 over 1 meter would take 0.075 seconds.

vf=v0 + at, solve for a. accelleration = 358 m/s^2.

F=ma = 3000 lb (358 m/s^2) = 110,000 lbf.

Exactly. And not to mention F=ma is only correct in a perfect environment, and we don't live in a perfect world.

C'mon, that's basic physics.

We're diverging form the point of discussing the show, but really? F=ma is very true in our "real" world, not just a perfect environment. Where the real world effects enter in i sthat you would account for all forces, such as air resistance and tire friction instead of assuming the ar is travelling in a vacuum. But 'basic physics' still applies.

F=ma = 3000 lb (358 m/s^2) = 110,000 lbf.
Correct. Now how many strips of duct tape will it take to stop it?

Consider:

Duct tape tears and cars are not flat.

One strip of duct tape is not necessarily as strong as another strip.

Duct tape stretches; it is not a static counter-force. We don't know how dynamic it is.

Duct tape can have defects and its use requires overlaps which are inherently defects.

The car will spread this force across an unknown amount of the surface area of the tape, not at a single point.

The car will not spread this force evenly as it decelerates into the duct tape; at moments parts of the tape will be under greater stress than other parts. That's why knifes cut better than bricks.


Issues like this is why they test structural products in the real world (much like what they do on Mythbusters) and include tremendous amounts of redundancy instead of relying entirely on equations. Products and structures are rarely made perfectly so there are too many unknown variables.

That's why the Hartford Civic Center collapsed in 1978. On paper the roof should have had no trouble supporting the weight of that snow, but the construction of the roof using actual materials and real world construction techniques wasn't as perfect as they needed to be to represent what was designed on paper.

I loved this week's episode. The Flu myths was more along the lines of season 2 or 3. Rather than the "lets blow something up" or "grab something off the fansite" topics they have had the last few seasons.

Kari with her "meat is disgusting" thing is getting really old. Although that neck prop looked creepy.

The problem was that they were throwing professionally cut glass. The edges of cut glass are square and polished which makes them safer to handle. A broken piece of glass would have been much sharper.

Not really new or informative just a good funny episode. Love Mythbusters.

Kari Byron has a new show called "Head Rush". What a fail. All they do is show Mythbuster episodes that has already aired...

Kari Byron has a new show called "Head Rush". What a fail. All they do is show Mythbuster episodes that has already aired...

Never heard of it. Found this:

We know and love Kari Byron from 'MythBusters,' and now she's taking her enthusiasm and curiosity about all things science to a new after-school show aimed at middle school-aged kids.

'Head Rush' takes all the best bits of researching and testing hypotheses from 'MB' and walks its viewers through the process step by step. Encouraging kids to follow along at home or in the classroom, the show is conveniently commercial-free for totally uninterrupted experimentation. ...

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/08/23/kari-byron-interview-head-rush/

Aimed at kids? doubtful unless being on at 1pm pst is a definition of "for kids" even then, kids are going to go to the trouble of tuning into discovery over any other cartoon?

Then again, I'm not a kid and have no clue what they do these days (thank god).

I'm betting they want to get it played in schools. It's not a bad idea frankly.

Last weeks episode was hilarious. Cold feet. lol

This weeks will be awesome. They will be debating what's worse, driving drunk or driving sleepy. I have my money on Sleepy. SERIOUSLY.

Does anyone else think that Mythbusters had its budget slashed this season? They don't seem to be building anything this season. All the myths this season look like they are real cheap to investigate.

Maybe it's the kind of myths they've had to do. I'd think they would be running out of ideas faster than money.

Maybe it's the kind of myths they've had to do. I'd think they would be running out of ideas faster than money.
Check out the forums at their web site. They have ideas for another five seasons at least.

LOL, I usually love this show, by jeez, way to bypass the entire "scientific method". Why didn't they have them drive the course sober and fully rested to start the test?

I don't think the cops liked the fact that Tori drove the course just fine, except for the 60mph rat coming across the street.

Seriously, if you're going to bust myths, and/or do science, please do it the correct way.

LOL, I usually love this show, by jeez, way to bypass the entire "scientific method". Why didn't they have them drive the course sober and fully rested to start the test?

I don't think the cops liked the fact that Tori drove the course just fine, except for the 60mph rat coming across the street.

Seriously, if you're going to bust myths, and/or do science, please do it the correct way.

A) It's a TV show not a lab environment. It's purpose is to entertain, not create unassailable factual data sets

B) The myth had nothing to do with tipsy vs drowsy vs totally unimpaired driving. It was comparing one relative to another. The assumption (which is fairly safe to make) is that they would do better if totally unimpaired...but that wasn't the point. The point was that drowsy driving = dangerous and I think that point came across pretty clearly.

And with that let me take a bow. :)

Thanks Mythbusters for proving me right. Now what to do about the people that can't drive to begin with...

A) It's a TV show not a lab environment. It's purpose is to entertain, not create unassailable factual data sets

B) The myth had nothing to do with tipsy vs drowsy vs totally unimpaired driving. It was comparing one relative to another. The assumption (which is fairly safe to make) is that they would do better if totally unimpaired...but that wasn't the point. The point was that drowsy driving = dangerous and I think that point came across pretty clearly.

While I agree, it was slightly misleading on the 0.06 BAC level, especially just after Keri drove the course. The officer made a point of how many "mistakes" she made.

If they would have filmed her driving it totally sober, we could have determined whether she is just a bad driver all-around.

Though, Tori kind of through that all out the window, when he barely had any mistakes on his run.

I do agree overall with the assessment, driving while tired is just as bad, if not worse than driving tipsy.

You don't have any reaction time while driving sleepy. When you drive "tipsy" at least you're alert or overly alert and can have some kind of reaction, you don't just drive off the road like you would sleepy. Also... I don't know about you, but I have driven sleepy and I can easily say I don't know how I made it home because I don't remember driving or don't remember much. THAT'S SCARY.

With all this said... I'm responsible and know when I can't drive or drive safely. Both sleepy and "tipsy" are bad.

What gets me is the people that are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over "tipsy", wtf thinking they can drive at all.

LOL, I usually love this show, by jeez, way to bypass the entire "scientific method". Why didn't they have them drive the course sober and fully rested to start the test?

I don't think the cops liked the fact that Tori drove the course just fine, except for the 60mph rat coming across the street.

Seriously, if you're going to bust myths, and/or do science, please do it the correct way.

It does seem like in season's past they would have done a baseline of them sober and then extreme DUI. I can understand not doing the latter but this came off as very "Smash Lab" me.

Building the rapid fire arrow was cool, but the testing was really boring unless you like watching it fail time and time again.

: shudder : never say Smash Labs.

Whatever that brunette chick's name was though speak of her. She was hawt.

Gawd I #$%&ing Heart this show!

People use your elbows at all times when you sneeze!

I feel good about inflating my Toyota Matrix tires to 36 front and 38 rear to get 32~ mpg.

The sleeping when drive myth is so lame. Any dummy can tell you that is true.

I forwarded over half the episode to watch the lame arrow machine fail over and over again.

People use your elbows at all times when you sneeze!
Because you look great with your arm covered in snot.

Because you look great with your arm covered in snot.

Yes, because it is much better than having your hands covered in it.

This was a very good show. In my mind, each of thes myths had nearly as much to test as the ones they drag out for 1/2 of a show, but instead we got 6 myths. Nice.

Yes, because it is much better than having your hands covered in it.
I use "Kleenex", also called "tissue paper".

Also, you can easily wash your hands at work. You can't do laundry at work (unless you work at a laundry).

So... you carry Kleenex in your man purse all over? Also, I gotta say... If your sneeze goes right though a handkerchief I have a feeling it will have no problem with a Kleenex.

I have Kleenex in my pocket all the time or I simply hold a sneeze if I'm in a room full of people. If you have to sneeze, it's important to sneeze down towards the floor as low as possible and away from surfaces that are likely to be touched.

Sorry, I can't imagine sitting in a meeting, sneezing into my shirt and having a snotty wet spot sit there for the rest of the meeting. Maybe that's OK where other folks work. At that height it's going to bounce right off your shirt and spray all over everyone at face height.

I live in Germ Central at work and I don't see anyone so it doesn't matter. I'm surprised I haven't gotten sick and died yet. No body there really gives a damn about being clean and people pass around stuff consistently shift to shift...

So everyone wears long sleeves?! Short sleeve people sneeze into their elbow and then wipe the snot ALL ALONG THEIR ARM to get rid of it... then shake your hand!

Why is the gov't telling me how to sneeze anyway?!

You just need to wash your hands! End of story. There does not need to be "sneeze rules". Common sense people!!! Think for yourself.

You just need to wash your hands! End of story.

Soo... what if you're say... camping what then... ?

Why is the gov't telling me how to sneeze anyway?!

Do you mind linking me where the gov't made this law.. ?

Soo... what if you're say... camping what then... ?
You use your alcohol wipes or your hand sanitizer. You do pack those so you can clean up after you do that thing that bears do in the woods, right?! :confused: :( :rolleyes:
Do you mind linking me where the gov't made this law.. ?

I never said it was a law, you ass-u-me-ed! I said "telling me" how to sneeze. Don't you remember the great "swine flu epidemic of 2009"? The one where they could not provide enough flu shots yet kept telling people to get them?! Get them, How?!!!!

http://www.flu.gov/psa/

Sid, Elmo & others also tell us how to sneeze (common sense people)

http://www.bam.gov/site_flukrew.html

:D

I think they ran out of good myths a long time ago.

The Build Team=Smash Lab


In seasons past, they would have tested whether or not the surf board could even make it 40 feet before just crashing a bunch of cars together. Then they would have done an impact test just to see if a surfboard was lethal. Then as a grand finale, if only the previous steps worked, they would crash cars.

Maybe they did test the surfboard first but found out later they needed that myth to fill half a show then shot the crash footage later! :)

Nice that the full scale reverse car testing data lined up with the wind tunnel testing data.

That windshield glass was impressive, not that I'd want it to happen anymore than before. Find it odd a bit though considering all the other **** that can go though your windshield easy that they've had on the show.

Maybe they did test the surfboard first but found out later they needed that myth to fill half a show then shot the crash footage later! :)

Nice that the full scale reverse car testing data lined up with the wind tunnel testing data.

your probably correct. I thought it was also unlike them to no get the desired results on the small scale, but proceed on to the full scale with no different results. I thought they would atleast head to a full size aerodynamic test in a windtunnel, but no. We flipped a car instead because its good TV.

I am all for good tv but I do miss the critical thinking mythbusters seems to be lacking lately.

That windshield glass was impressive, not that I'd want it to happen anymore than before. Find it odd a bit though considering all the other **** that can go though your windshield easy that they've had on the show.

The windshield glass wasn't all that impressive if you look at what really happened. A huge glaring error on the build team's part during the final 80mph test was that it was the hook they bolted to the board that stopped the board from blasting all the way through the windshield, not the windshield itself. The board penetrated the glass, then the hook hit the leading edge of the roof and stopped instantly and left a pretty big dent in the roof.

I used to really enjoy watching Mythbusters, but now I find myself getting mad at the huge errors they keep making, so I think it's about time to remove the show from my DVR.

Michael

They always make glaring errors that prevent them from recreating a "myth" accurately.

They always make glaring errors that prevent them from recreating a "myth" accurately.

So they can revisit the myth in future shows.

well it seems that the mythbusters forum is nothing but people sh*tting all over this season. So its not just us noticing the lack of quality.

How is this different from previous seasons? The more popular the show got, the more whiners showed up at their forum with helpful suggestions like "yur show sux".

The Storm Chasers tie-in was pretty shameless though.

well it seems that the mythbusters forum is nothing but people sh*tting all over this season. So its not just us noticing the lack of quality.

You should checkout the Wipeout thread. A bunch of folks that act as if they never saw a boobie!!!

LMAO! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! you really can slap some sense into someone!

Omfg, they're back!? I ****ing heart this show! It's always fing good! Even if it's not totally original! Top Gear is the same way! Lol

Maybe I have a dirty mind but Kari lubing that pole for the merry-go-round ... seemed to be a bit suggestive. :)

Maybe I have a dirty mind but Kari lubing that pole for the merry-go-round ... seemed to be a bit suggestive. :)

Not really since she's been impregnated by someone.

Maybe I have a dirty mind but Kari lubing that pole for the merry-go-round ... seemed to be a bit suggestive. :)

I did notice that they edited that down to where it wasnt nearly as suggestive as it could have been.


Pretty decent myths, although couldnt they have chosen a different scene from a movie other than Shoot Em Up to test inertia? That movie was written by two hamsters high on coke. Of course it isnt real.

Pretty decent myths, although couldnt they have chosen a different scene from a movie other than Shoot Em Up to test inertia? That movie was written by two hamsters high on coke. Of course it isnt real.

Yes, the merry-go-round Myth was dumb. The other two were fairly interesting, though. In general, the gun myths like that should be on one of the shows where they test 6 myths i nthe hour instead of 2-3.

Also, anything form a Clive Owen action movie should not be shown on TV. Ever. :)

They could spend a whole season busting "Shoot 'Em Up" myths alone!

Such a badddddddddddd ****ing movie.

Yes, the merry-go-round Myth was dumb.
I did like how they made the super-merry-go-round. If I remember right, the force to move that went from eight pounds to a half pound.

But the fact that bullets go through metal has already been established in previous shows.

The running on water was completely stupid, but at the same time completely hilarious. lol

Kari -"now hammer it in". GLADLY.

Running on water - worst myth ever.

I did enjoy seeing the movie myth of dive behind a wall/car tested.

Meh.

Meh.

Movie sound effects. So-so. I can tell you the sound of a really pissed rattlesnake sounds much more frightening than the shake-a shake-a noise the one in the glass case was making. I nearly stepped on a diamond back and it sounded like a broken electric razor.

Blowing your own sail. So-so. Newton was still right but it was fun to see how his laws don't always work perfectly in real world situations.

I thought both Myths very very good this week. The sail myth was unexpected (to me) and they did a good job with the test setup. The sound Myths were back to some of their original movie-myth busting and were pretty simple to set up.

My only complaint woud be the outcome of the silencer Myth when Adam seemed shocked that a silencer actually reduced the dB level of a pistol. Really? That's what they are for. It still sound nothing like the movie version, and 120 dB is something you'll still here quite easily.

My only complaint woud be the outcome of the silencer Myth when Adam seemed shocked that a silencer actually reduced the dB level of a pistol. Really? That's what they are for. It still sound nothing like the movie version, and 120 dB is something you'll still here quite easily.

Yes! The noise went from something that could damage your ears down to something that would just make your ears ring for a minute or two. That's some "silencer". :rolleyes:

That was interesting. Next week looks AWESOME Gonna be hilarious having them all movie around like retards trying to dodge a bullet. LOL

Good Episode.

Since they had everything all set up, why didn't they see if it was possible to dodge a sniper's bullet at night (where one could presumably see the muzzle flash much easier)??

That recent episode sucked so boring.

They should go back to blowing stuff up again and acting excited.

That recent episode sucked so boring.

They should go back to blowing stuff up again and acting excited.

Really? I much prefer myth tests rather than excuses to blow stuff up.

I enjoyed this episode (with judicious use of the 30-second skip since at least half the episode is telling you what is coming up next or recapping what happened 5 minutes ago). Neither myth had a shocking conclusion, but at least they were interesting.

Good question, blitzen. My guess would be either they didn't think of it, or that night filming just doesn't look good on TV. since even the best case was that you were looking hte right direction, aware of the sniper location, and anticipating the shot anyway, I don't think that conclusion of the myth would change. You're better off moving erratically and hoping the sniper isn't as good as the guy they used.

The concrete vs. water myth wasn't exactly a revelation. Since concrete doesn't splatter, obviously it doesn't absorb much energy but it was fun for them to quantify the differences.

For me the sniper thing was more about how they found ways to test the theory without getting shot. Realistically you're not going to be able to see the muzzle flash unless you're looking right at the sniper and the sniper isn't going to shoot if the target is looking at them.

Good Episode.
Unless they had a good reason for having damaged and broken porcine bodies, why didn't they just get a higher G rated accelerometer? The x-ray examination is not nearly as definitive as a G loading would have been.

I wondered that as well. My initial guess was cost or delivery time, but I found a shock sensor on Ebay that will measure up to 80,000 for $200 shipped (next-day available).

So I guess they wanted to splatter pigs.

Anyone else getting really sick of the YouTube video of the week?

Did they run out of actual urban legends to investigate?

Kari: I'll issue a challenge
Guys: OK!
Kari: This... is what you guys came up with...

LMAO!

Kari: I'll issue a challenge
Guys: OK!
Kari: This... is what you guys came up with...

LMAO!

These guys are obviously not actors, and the Myth setup segments are always pretty cringe-worthy. Instead of one person explaining the myth to the other people (who obviously already know about it and might even be done testing it by the time they film this segment), I'd much rather have them just speak directly to the camera, like they do the other 39 minutes of the show.

These guys are obviously not actors, and the Myth setup segments are always pretty cringe-worthy. Instead of one person explaining the myth to the other people (who obviously already know about it and might even be done testing it by the time they film this segment), I'd much rather have them just speak directly to the camera, like they do the other 39 minutes of the show.

Ill be honest, I skip right past that part of the show everytime. I know what myths your doing, I dont need to be tricked that this is how these dorks come up with them.


I still wanted them to show how the PIT maneuver can stall out a car even if the gas peddle is stuck.

These guys are obviously not actors, and the Myth setup segments are always pretty cringe-worthy. Instead of one person explaining the myth to the other people (who obviously already know about it and might even be done testing it by the time they film this segment), I'd much rather have them just speak directly to the camera, like they do the other 39 minutes of the show.

This phony format is also painfully obvious on SyFy's "Fact or Faked". Each show kicks off with a staged "meeting". An actor/cast member says he or she discovered something possibly worth investigating and more often than not, another actor/cast member will chime in with something like:

"I think I heard about this case. Wasn't the video posted on the Internet on July 25th, 2004 and was investigated by Mike Adams at the San Jose Mercury News?"

I just wish one of them would come back with, "Uh no, you're thinking of another case. And please don't interrupt me, OK? Anyway...."

Wow, i guess i was the only one with their head in the garbage... :(

Hilarius episode this week. LOVE THIS SHOW! Glad it's back!

Entertaining... the Jr. Mythbusters must love New Mexico Tech. A new place to blow up even bigger things, and the employees do most of the work leaving them to just walk around and pose for the camera.

For Jaime and Adam's myth I enjoyed seeing hte results, but I'm a bit stumped as to why they felt the need to not be able to hear. Or why they didn't have an actual blind person perform the test.

Adam: "I have a feeling... that I'm pulling... to the right" as he's clearly veering to the left. :D

For Jaime and Adam's myth I enjoyed seeing hte results, but I'm a bit stumped as to why they felt the need to not be able to hear. Or why they didn't have an actual blind person perform the test.

Because if they could hear -- something they could hear could have helped them out with their orientation -- such as a freeway to the south, airport to the north, etc. If they were in a wheat field in the middle of Kansas, or somewhere, sound suppression would noy have been needed.

Or why they didn't have an actual blind person perform the test.

i also wondered that. They will let a blind man drive but not walk a line?

Neither story this week was lame or stupid. The use of "meandering GPS" signals to make a graph was a bit overkill as it was VERY clear that nothing even approaching a straight line was happening.

Where can I get some of that binary explosive? (KIDDING! :D)

Where can I get some of that binary explosive? (KIDDING! :D)
I know it's silly, but my heart skipped a beat when they were mixing it and started shaking it up in the jars.

Yes, I know you could hit the jar with a hammer and nothing will happen.

If you ever want to have your heart skip a beat for a WHOLE EPISODE watch Dirty Jobs when they go to a fireworks factory. LMAO!

Another good episode. Surprised the barge myth worked.

LMAO @ Grant's contraption! CHRIST! Hilarious! LOL @ Adam's foot stomper. Hilarious episode!

Agreed - the foot stomper and Grant's guillotine were both nice builds. (Although as they showed with Grant's - lucky that no one was hurt.)

I wonder if the two teams even see one another any more. Feels like two completely different shows sfulled together at times.

I am pretty sure that each team now has their own shop. Which is understandable considering I have read that Jaime is a meticulous dick about keeping M5 (his shop) just the way he likes it.

In other news, it still seems that if there is going to be a horrible accident on this show, it will be the build team that has it happen. It now longer seems Adam is blowing himself up anymore.

I am pretty sure that each team now has their own shop. Which is understandable considering I have read that Jaime is a meticulous dick about keeping M5 (his shop) just the way he likes it.


"The show used to be taped primarily in the M5 shop, but space constraints have forced much of the work and taping of MythBusters to be held in a separate annex of M5, called M7, located just 800 yards (730 m) away."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M5_Industries

Good episode again. It almost makes me want to go whiskey tango and use Rhino lining more. lol

The show doesn't get better than this. Both myths involved explosions, one involved using something for a completely unintended purpose, and Kari looked gratuitously hot in every scene.

'MythBusters' misfire sends cannonball through neighborhood
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 by Angle J.

http://i.imgur.com/uQMbP.jpg


A cannonball fired by the "Mythbusters" TV show plowed through a Northern California house, struck the roof of another house and smashed through a minivan's window in a science experiment gone wrong.

The mishap occurred Tuesday while the Discovery Channel show was testing out whether other materials are just as effective as a cannonball when fired from a cannon.

Instead, the mythbusters learned how effective a cannonball can be when it misses its intended target, according to KGO-TV San Francisco.

The cannonball was fired from a bomb range in Dublin, about 35 miles east of San Francisco in Alameda County. It was supposed to hit trash cans but instead soared 700 yards into the home of a sleeping couple, leaving a 10-inch hole in the bedroom wall.
The cannonball was traveling as fast as a bullet. It exited the house, bounced across four lanes of traffic, struck the roof of another house and then smashed through the window of a parked minivan.

No one was injured.

Neighbors said "MythBusters" often tries its experiments in the area, and they have grown used to hearing explosions.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/mythbusters-cannonball.html

Yikes!

haha

Tell me about it :eek:

Jamie GOT his big boom.

Oh yeah, I was watching the "breaking news" about it. Sounded serious at first. lol

[Jaime and Adam]Oops.[/Jaime and Adam]

Can't wait for that episode to air.

Clip about the cannonball from a local news broadcast.

http://www.tvweek.com/viral-video/1/

I wonder how they will handle this on the show?
Will they embrace or ignore?
Will they can this episode?

I wonder how they will handle this on the show?
Will they embrace or ignore?
Will they can this episode?

I say embrace, as a special "safety" issue. Shows even taking the most precautions, things can still go wrong - why you should not try it at home, etc!

There will not be any show about it while there is an investigation going on. This is why you aren't hearing a peep from anybody involved. Putting in the public in danger like this is not going to be good for the show. There will be some type of repercussions.

Apologetic 'Mythbusters' talk about cannonball accident. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/12/apologetic-mythbusters-talk-about-cannonball-accident-.html)

It's not the first time things have gone wrong, they had an episode about why they can never go back to Esparto, California. Apparently they set off an explosion that was "bigger than expected" and shattered several windows over a mile away. :D

Well with what these people do every episode something like this is bound to happen sooner or later as long as no one gets hurt then it is kind of funny.

Just to be clear Jamie and Adam wher not involved in the indicdent it was Tory, Grant and Kari. Which in retrospect isn't shocking.

Pardon the idiot holding the camera but... uh... what about this? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gampuZ2G1K8

Just to be clear Jamie and Adam wher not involved in the indicdent it was Tory, Grant and Kari. Which in retrospect isn't shocking.

Exactly my thought when I read it was Tory, Grant, and Kari. I also read that they promised the families that they wouldn't air the footage. They probably didn't have any good footage anyway, it's not like they had cameras setup in the neighborhood.

Exactly my thought when I read it was Tory, Grant, and Kari. .

My thought as well. Was anyone else having flashbacks of Top Gun when they tried the "conga line" with the airplanes? Didn't seem to be the best idea to me.

That whole segment was fairly silly with the typical Mythbusters claim of "confirmed" or "busted" with pretty sketchy statistical evidence to back it up. What is the flight-to-flight variance in the plane's fuel consumption? Why did the lead plane have a better fuel savings (5%) than the following plane (3% and 5%)?

Funny part is that I was visiting San Fran on Tuesday and stopped by M-5 just to see if anyone was outside. This is why they weren't there. lol

Funny part is that I was visiting San Fran on Tuesday and stopped by M-5 just to see if anyone was outside. This is why they weren't there. lol

You probably know Mythbusters moved out of M-5, lost their lease on M-6 (weren't popular with the neighbors!), and are now located at M-7.

'MythBusters' misfire sends cannonball through neighborhood
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 by Angle J.

...

The cannonball was fired from a bomb range in Dublin, about 35 miles east of San Francisco in Alameda County. It was supposed to hit trash cans but instead soared 700 yards into the home of a sleeping couple, leaving a 10-inch hole in the bedroom wall.
The cannonball was traveling as fast as a bullet. It exited the house, bounced across four lanes of traffic, struck the roof of another house and then smashed through the window of a parked minivan.

No one was injured.

Neighbors said "MythBusters" often tries its experiments in the area, and they have grown used to hearing explosions.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/mythbusters-cannonball.html

You think they would hear explosions regardless if the MythBusters used it or not.

Just to be clear Jamie and Adam wher not involved in the indicdent it was Tory, Grant and Kari. Which in retrospect isn't shocking.

My thoughts exactly. It seems that if anything goes wrong on the show it is ALWAYS during the build team's segment.

I would never be shocked if one of the 3 get seriously hurt because of the stupid things they do.

Part of the problem is Tory volunteers to do some really stupid stuff.

I would never be shocked if one of the 3 get seriously hurt because of the stupid things they do.
It'll be Grant. Kari and Tory always jump behind him when something goes wrong.

Who'd more likely to get hurt first/more?

My order would be... 1. Tory 2. Grant 3. Kari

I'd almost put Grant and Kari as a tie for 2nd.

You probably know Mythbusters moved out of M-5, lost their lease on M-6 (weren't popular with the neighbors!), and are now located at M-7.

I didn't know that. Last I knew, they had M-5 and M-7. Jaimie and Adam shot at M5 and the other 3 shot at M7

I didn't know that. Last I knew, they had M-5 and M-7. Jaimie and Adam shot at M5 and the other 3 shot at M7

Jaime still owns M-5. As Mythbusters grew it started taking over the place and interfering with Jaime's business so they moved the production to its own shop, M-6. M-5 has returned to its original business of being a shop for special effects designers.

There was also a rumor that Jaime was just tired of Adam wrecking the place. He dropped a bowling ball which cracked a huge chunk out of the concrete slab. Adam just shrugged.

In the background of early episodes you can see work done by Jaime's clients. There was always the risk of a Mythbuster experiment damaging it and costing him lots of money.