From Blu-Ray.com forums so hopefully a US release is around the same time-

Paramount is releasing in Spain the Star Trek Season 2 & 3 Blu-rays in November 2009.
Furthermore, in addition to the soon to be released first 1-6 movies box, on November there will also be a movies 7-11 box, and one with movies 1-11, which will include the new J.J. Abrams' movie with the "younger crew".

Star Trek Season 2 (http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19749)

Star Trek Season 3 (http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19751)

Star Trek Movies 7-11 (http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20135)

Star Trek Movies 1-11 (http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20191)

Paramount lanzará en España las temporadas 2 y 3 de Star Trek en Blu-ray en noviembre del 2009.
En adición,, además de la caja con las primeras 6 películas que se lanazará proximamente, en noviembre tambien habrá una caja con las peliculas de la 7 a la 11, y otra caja con las peliculas de la 1 a la 11, las cuales incluiran la nueva pelicula de J.J. Abrams con la joven tripulación.

Source: ZonaDVD

From Blu-Ray.com so hopefully a US release is around the same time-
Pretty cool. I'm guessing 1-6 in the 1-11 box set will be identical to the ones coming next month.

I really, really, really don't like the idea of the new Star Trek being backed in with the TNG movies. I want a 7-10 box set, not a 7-11 set.

I look forward to getting the set. Should be a great addition to my collection.

Hmm, kinda makes me want to wait till November to get the complete set... may just do that, I don't have any immediate urge to see the Shatner movies again.

I really, really, really don't like the idea of the new Star Trek being backed in with the TNG movies. I want a 7-10 box set, not a 7-11 set.

Yah, I'm not fond of that, but they'll probably release them all individually at some point, too.

Wow, thanks for this thread! Just canceled my 1-6 order. I prefer a single box.

I don't think my budget will be able to handle the cost of buying myself the 1-11 boxed set in the middle of the Christmas shopping season. I'll get 1-6 in May and the rest in November. Won't break the bank that way--and I won't have to wait six months to watch the first six in high def.

They redid the special effects for TOS season 1, it actually made it a great deal of fun to rewatch them.

I am told Toshiba spent millions updating and cleaning up those original season 1 prints :)

I wonder if the later TOS seasons will have updated special effects?

CBS updated all three seasons.

CBS updated all three seasons.

very nice, I know there are like once a week really late night runs of TOS, seems like once every 6 months I find one on at like midnight-2am on a weekend, they look great.

I own the season1 HD-DVD, and I have to tell you, because they were shot on film, the really do look SUPERB, considering the old style worn out prints I read they had to work with.


On a slightly off topic, I did order the special edition of Space 1999 remastered (PAL) from oversized, plays great on my Samsung, and its a GREaT series to rewatch from the 70s.
I wonder if TOS was shot in any particular film format that paid off for eventual high res bluray release>?

I wonder if TOS was shot in any particular film format that paid off for eventual high res bluray release>?

ummmm.....

IMDB says it was shot spherical on 35mm film.

So my question is can it be shown widescreen as one would presume using 35mm film means there is additional picture information at each side of the frame even if they originally shot for a television safe ratio.

Anyone know the answer to this question ?

They redid the special effects for TOS season 1, it actually made it a great deal of fun to rewatch them.

I am told Toshiba spent millions updating and cleaning up those original season 1 prints :)

I wonder if the later TOS seasons will have updated special effects?

Toshiba paid for the HD DVD authoring. They did not pay for the remastering, or the new effects. All the remastering and new effects have long been completed for all 3 seasons, and all have been released on DVD. We have only been waiting for them to reach Blu-ray.

IMDB says it was shot spherical on 35mm film.

So my question is can it be shown widescreen as one would presume using 35mm film means there is additional picture information at each side of the frame even if they originally shot for a television safe ratio.

Anyone know the answer to this question ?

http://trekmovie.com/tos-in-hd/

What is the Aspect Ratio of TOS Remastered?
TOS was shot on 35mm film and produced for standard TV (4:3 ratio). The CBS Digital team is making the new CG effects in 16:9 to be ready for potential future widescreen versions. However for the time being it is broadcast in 4:3 with ‘pillar boxing’ when shown on HD channels (with the new CG shots ‘cropped’ to match the live action). The HD DVD and Blu-ray versions also have this pillar boxing.
[Note: HD downloads off of Xbox Live are also primarily pillar boxed, but CG shots are inserted in full 16:9…CBS have said this is actually a mistake and they hope to fix that]

The wide screen shots on Xbox are fantastic.

The HDDVD release for Japan was rumored to contain 16:9 remasters, only saw an example and stretching/cropping was obvious.

http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/31/tos-r-goes-widescreen-in-japan/

Review is up at dvdbeaver. The images doesn't look pleasing.

Review is up at dvdbeaver. The images doesn't look pleasing.

I checked them out and they look okay to me. What components of the image are you not pleased with?

The DVDBeaver review is very impressive. I had the HD-DVD set (just sold it yesterday!), but am eagerly awaiting it on BD.

Does anybody know if the original mono ST is in advanced audio or legacy DD?

Doug

I am glad to hear this, and am also glad I never got around to buying the DVD's! Hopefully we will see more of the older TV series' coming out on Blu-ray before too long.

IMDB says it was shot spherical on 35mm film.

So my question is can it be shown widescreen as one would presume using 35mm film means there is additional picture information at each side of the frame even if they originally shot for a television safe ratio.

Anyone know the answer to this question ?

Just to clarify, the full 35mm frame, from top to bottom and sprocket to sprocket, has an aspect ratio of 1.33:1. So you are seeing all there is to see in the 4:3 version. If they were to release it in 16:9, they'd have to crop the top and bottom of the original footage.

The DVDBeaver review is very impressive. I had the HD-DVD set (just sold it yesterday!), but am eagerly awaiting it on BD.

Does anybody know if the original mono ST is in advanced audio or legacy DD?

Doug


Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

Just to clarify, the full 35mm frame, from top to bottom and sprocket to sprocket, has an aspect ratio of 1.33:1. So you are seeing all there is to see in the 4:3 version. If they were to release it in 16:9, they'd have to crop the top and bottom of the original footage.

Are you sure about that because i thought in shooting it on 35mm film they would have had additional spare information at the sides and could potentially show it in widescreen without losing information top and bottom.

If what you say is correct then i hope a widescreen edition is never released.

I checked them out and they look okay to me. What components of the image are you not pleased with?

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3471/stblocks.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3471/stblocks.jpg)

needs more macroblocking :rolleyes:

Are you sure about that because i thought in shooting it on 35mm film they would have had additional spare information at the sides and could potentially show it in widescreen without losing information top and bottom.

I think you might be thinking of more modern shows, which were shot in 3-perf Super 35. That became rather common in the 1990's with shows like ER. They were still broadcasting in 4:3, but they knew that 16:9 was right around the corner. Of course, that wasn't the case back in 1966. If anything, it's more likely that there is unused area around the entire picture as opposed to just the sides. That's quite possible.

Here's a 35mm framing chart, so that you can see how it all breaks down.

http://www.geocities.com/mumbles3k/aspectratiosm.jpg

They might have shot full aperture. Since it was TV, they wouldn't have to worry about putting a soundtrack down the left side of the frame. It's also quite possible that they shot with the 1.33 Academy frame, and then protected for the TV aperture.

Even though it's not marked on the chart, 3-perf Super 35 utilizes the full width, including the soundtrack area on the left, but the height is 25% shorter, since they only use 3 perfs instead of 4.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3471/stblocks.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3471/stblocks.jpg)

needs more macroblocking :rolleyes:

There's no way that jpeg is representative of what these will look like. The season 1 HD DVDs certainly don't look like that, and I see no reason why the seasons 2 and 3 releases on Blu-ray would.

"I've done A/B comparisons of the video quality here and on the previous HD-DVD release, and the added bandwidth of BD and extra disc space (which allows for less compression to be used) makes a clear difference. Take a look at the clouds on the shots of the Enterprise arriving in a planet's orbit at the start of The Man Trap - the HD-DVD clouds exhibit noticeable artifacting that's barely visible on Blu-ray (if at all)."
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/bdreviews041709.html

apparently improved from the hd-dvd releases.

The season 1 HDDVDs look incredible. I expect the BDs will be the same or similar. There is variability from shot to shot but still very very impressive.

I saw that Shatner was wearing a toupe in the Corbomite Maneuver. I always thought he lost his hair in the 70's.

There's no way that jpeg is representative of what these will look like. The season 1 HD DVDs certainly don't look like that, and I see no reason why the seasons 2 and 3 releases on Blu-ray would.

1) DVDBeaver uses the lowest jpeg compression I believe. I compared some PNGs I took with their JPGs once and they looked 99.999999% identical. So all that blocking is actually there.

2) look at the bitrate scan, its very low (~14mbps)

2) The HD DVDs were AVC, these BDs are VC1, so they won't look 100% identical

"I've done A/B comparisons of the video quality here and on the previous HD-DVD release, and the added bandwidth of BD and extra disc space (which allows for less compression to be used) makes a clear difference. Take a look at the clouds on the shots of the Enterprise arriving in a planet's orbit at the start of The Man Trap - the HD-DVD clouds exhibit noticeable artifacting that's barely visible on Blu-ray (if at all)."
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/bdreviews041709.html

apparently improved from the hd-dvd releases.B.S. The HD DVD sets were not compressed as a result of disc capacity.

I have only viewed a few eps of Season one on HD-DVD and they look pretty good. I have seen no evidence of artifacting etc. Can't wait for the other seasons on BD

Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

Thanks.

Doug

One thing I will not miss about the HD DVD release is the clunky menu. It took forever to navigate from one episode to the next. According to the review over at the Bits the menus were much more efficient.

Also, I am sad to see that we are once again stuck with the broadcast order of the episodes. I much prefer the production order which makes chronological sense.

I have only viewed a few eps of Season one on HD-DVD and they look pretty good. I have seen no evidence of artifacting etc. Can't wait for the other seasons on BD

One episode had very visible banding in the turbolift doors in the background of a fairly static scene on the bridge. Keep your eyes on those bright red doors for artifacts.

I'm really really excited about getting The Cage in HD. To me this is almost a Classic Sci Fi film itself.

Art

I'm really really excited about getting The Cage in HD. To me this is almost a Classic Sci Fi film itself.

Art

agreed. :)

As for the movie collections, I like the idea of seperate boxes for Original cast 1-6 and TNG cast 7-10, but I DO NOT like them throwing in the new movie into a 7-11 (er actually, wouldn't that be like Zero?) The new movie should be seperate. But I will keep my 1-6 set preorder and if they stick the new movie in box set # 2 I will live with it.

Yknow, I haven't watched an episode of TOS since the 80's (I prefered TNG and DS9 was actually my favorite series.) Maybe I should check out the new Bluray set of TOS...

I'm really really excited about getting The Cage in HD. To me this is almost a Classic Sci Fi film itself.

Art

All I saw was the Menagerie

All I saw was the Menagerie

I think The Cage will be included in the S3 box

Yeah, it's all good.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/21/review-star-trek-the-original-series-season-1-blu-ray/

I'm really really excited about getting The Cage in HD. To me this is almost a Classic Sci Fi film itself.

Art

Yup, can't wait.

I'm really really excited about getting The Cage in HD. To me this is almost a Classic Sci Fi film itself.Because it was a pilot, it contains the introductions needed (characters, technology, environment, etc) to feel like a stand-alone film instead of one episode plucked from an ongoing series. 'The Cage' is a great watch, even for those that know nothing about Trek.

Because it was a pilot, it contains the introductions needed (characters, technology, environment, etc) to feel like a stand-alone film instead of one episode plucked from an ongoing series. 'The Cage' is a great watch, even for those that know nothing about Trek.

Yes, completely agree. I still love so much about that show.

Art

http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/22/preview-for-star-trek-remastered-the-cage-airing-next-weekend/

says it all

S1 is now $64.99 at amazon. Probably to match Best Buy. I canelled my Amazon order and will pick this up in the store so I can watch these tues. nite. :)

Just received Star Trek Season One. Anyone else having weird audio dropouts? I am losing sound. Display goes from DTS HD-MA to Stereo when the drop out occurs. Have to manually switch audio tracks to get back sound. Happened six times with the first episode. Tried switching to original mono tracks and had the same problem. I have a Pioneer SC-07 and BDP-05FD combo. Not happy

Just received Star Trek Season One. Anyone else having weird audio dropouts? I am losing sound. Display goes from DTS HD-MA to Stereo when the drop out occurs. Have to manually switch audio tracks to get back sound. Happened six times with the first episode. Tried switching to original mono tracks and had the same problem. I have a Pioneer SC-07 and BDP-05FD combo. Not happy

Vonbek< i will check mine tonight. Got the last set at Best Buy in midtown manhattan. I don't know if they only ordered a few or it's a hot item. :)

Apparently it is a player issue and not a disc issue. Setting the HDMI audio to PCM will get you bug free playback. Left on auto, any time there is a scene change like going from the bridge to a planet, will cause an audio drop-out. Also not a bug per say, but the volume for the episodes are very low. The opening preview trailer is very loud compared to the actual volume of the episodes. I usually listen at a -30 to -25 on my SC-07 and had to crank it up all the way to -10 and -06 for certain episodes. Also no play all option in the menu. Have to selection each episode manually. Small gripes I know.

Watched 15 minutes of Man Trap and Where No man.... tonight. No problems. PQ is absolutely stunning. Grain. Yes, thank god. Means it won't look like Star Trek IV and IV in the other box set....


:)

Means it won't look like Star Trek IV and IV in the other box set....

Hehehehehehehe :)

I usually listen at a -30 to -25 on my SC-07 and had to crank it up all the way to -10 and -06 for certain episodes.

I've noticed the same thing, just randomly looking at a few scenes in different episodes. Some are definitely quite a bit quieter than others.

So, just picked this up. Quality is great. I have one complaint though - the sticker thing that goes over the top of the case, was taped awkwardly and went over the paper case insert that had popped slightly out of the plastic. So when I removed it, it ripped part of the cover insert. Is there anyway to get it replaced from Paramount or anything? I have OCD when it comes to things like this. Thanks!

Hey guys, I Just finished WNMHGB. Wow. amazing PQ.

Great stuff. Kudos. Had me shedding a tear at the end. Alongside my dad, Captain Kirk and the grew were my heroes growing up. Amazing to see the show looking this good. The PQ is so good I feel like I'm on the bridge with them. (I know, nerd alert...) Wish my Pop were still around to give these a spin with. Would be a lot of fun. I can only hope my kid is into them one day as much as I was.

(And Shatner can act his ass off when he wants too....)

I'm glad CBS gave the option to look at TOS on Blu-ray in either their original effects or CGI. It's too bad the original and CGI versions aren't on their own separate discs. I'd then be able to put the CGI discs in my shredder.

It's one thing to scan the prints in 1080p+, remaster, restore and remove scratches, etc. It's another when a director/producer does a George Lucas.

The painted backdrops, flash light/spot light with a color filter and models all gave TOS its charm. Adding CGI to TOS, it's no longer the same show. If CBS had done like what was done for the HD-DVD releases, I'd not get these three series.

I'd love it if Lucas came to his senses and released the 1080p versions of Star Wars 4-6 that I saw clips of on this Discovery HD Theater special, which still used the models. I'm glad CBS is smart enough to not offend the true TOS fans by giving them the originals too.

So, just picked this up. Quality is great. I have one complaint though - the sticker thing that goes over the top of the case, was taped awkwardly and went over the paper case insert that had popped slightly out of the plastic. So when I removed it, it ripped part of the cover insert. Is there anyway to get it replaced from Paramount or anything? I have OCD when it comes to things like this. Thanks!
I've had this happen to me with more than a few DVDs unfortunately. Good luck.

I'm totally pleased with this set. No question I'll be picking up the other two seasons.

I also noticed the uneven audio levels. Also, I have to wonder why they put the second half of the disc index where you have to remove the last disc to read it.

Another update. Still having audio drop-outs during scene changes even with HDMI PCM selected on my setup. Two episodes played flawlessly but everything else has had drop-outs. Anyone who has a Pioneer Elite 05FD and SC-07 may want to wait for firmware upgrade. Very annoying.

I picked up Season 1 for $59.83 here in Canada at Wal-Mart :eek: . The price at the other stores was $79.99

Another update. Still having audio drop-outs during scene changes even with HDMI PCM selected on my setup. Two episodes played flawlessly but everything else has had drop-outs. Anyone who has a Pioneer Elite 05FD and SC-07 may want to wait for firmware upgrade. Very annoying.

I noticed brief dropouts where the branches are. My player (Samsung 5000) has problems w/ branches, especially noted on Close Encounters). I believe some other players handle branches better.

Doug

I'll re-incarnate this thread a bit to mention that the pre-order for TOS:S2 on BD has dropped in price to a more realistic value on Amazon. This tells me they are finalizing the distributors costs and maybe starting to schedule the bulk shipments to retailers. Release date is given as 22 Sept 2009 - is that stated anywhere else?

I look forward to this release, and to see how it compares to the S1 set I have on HD DVD. When is S3 scheduled? I can't find any recent info...

shinksma

I'll re-incarnate this thread a bit to mention that the pre-order for TOS:S2 on BD has dropped in price to a more realistic value on Amazon. This tells me they are finalizing the distributors costs and maybe starting to schedule the bulk shipments to retailers. Release date is given as 22 Sept 2009 - is that stated anywhere else?

I look forward to this release, and to see how it compares to the S1 set I have on HD DVD. When is S3 scheduled? I can't find any recent info...

shinksma

I think the Digital Bits reported "early 2010" for season 3.

Is there a listing yet for the TNG movies set on Amazon? As of yesterday, I still didn't see it.

Doug

I think the Digital Bits reported "early 2010" for season 3.

Is there a listing yet for the TNG movies set on Amazon? As of yesterday, I still didn't see it.

Doug

First Contact is available for pre-order, the others have individual placeholders (the First Contact placeholder is still there too). And there is indeed a placeholder for the "Star Trek Next Generation Motion Picture Collection" boxset. Placeholders mean nothing, though - just anticipation without fact on Amazon's part.

shinksma

First Contact is available for pre-order, the others have individual placeholders (the First Contact placeholder is still there too). And there is indeed a placeholder for the "Star Trek Next Generation Motion Picture Collection" boxset. Placeholders mean nothing, though - just anticipation without fact on Amazon's part.

shinksma

Thanks, and I should have been more clear. I have seen the placeholders, but I meant specific preorder listings w/ price.

Doug

Yep, placed pre-orders for both First Contact and Season Two. Dunno when Amazon will start listing Season Three for pre-order, tho.
Wonder if they'll take the DVD versions of Seasons Two and Three for trade for the Blu-ray counterparts... I believe I saw something that they did.

Actually, if Amazon posts information on pre-ordering the movie collection instead, I'll just pull the pre-orders for the individual stuff and pre-order the collection instead.
At least Season Two will stick with the pre-order for now. We'll need to see what Amazon says within the next few weeks...

Pre-order price for First Contact went up to $19.99 today. I'm glad I locked it in at $11.99 :)

Pre-order price for First Contact went up to $19.99 today. I'm glad I locked it in at $11.99 :)

Ditto that, I locked in on that price myself. Just don't get why Season Two is more than Season One is, tho, when I preordered that one. For $72.99 vs. the $65.99 that Season One is, heh... I wonder what Season Three is likely to be...$79.99?
Better yet...I'm wondering whether or not Paramount had confirmed a complete series bundle in Blu-ray of ST:TOS as of yet, that may probably be the best value to own them.

I've been watching ST TOS Season 1 on BD and will definitely pick up Seasons 2 & 3 when they come out. Wow - great viewing experience and nostalgia.

But, I'm gonna skip STNG...it just never did anything for me...kinda like going out to eat....the waitress will ask 'what would you like to drink'...and I'll ask for a Coke...and I get a flat soda instead...I know what a full bodied soda should taste like...and every time I go out to eat I'll try again for a Coke and instead get another flat soda....no body...no bite....eventually I gave up on ordering a soda when going out to eat...kinda like I gave up on STNG for a 'full bodied' story line (did you ever read the credits with how many gd people got 'credits' for the screenplay or writers?? no wonder the plots aimlessly meandered about....)

Oh yeah... Just watched "The City on the Edge of Forever" on my Season One Blu-ray, and it's been said by some that was not only the best episode from Season One, or from TOS, but the entire ST franchise. I tend to agree... Some of the best acting I've ever seen from DeForrest Kelley so far. Not to mention that Shatner or Nimoy had moments of their own. Definitely was one episode that was well worth the price of that season and that enhanced feature.