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General Kenobi
04-17-09, 06:32 PM
I was getting ready to import the "uncut" Mr. & Mrs. Smith from amazon.fr when Blacklac brought to my attention that there may be yet another version (http://video.fnac.com/a2233691/Mr-et-Mrs-Smith-Edition-Blu-Ray-Brad-Pitt-Blu-Ray?PID=83487&Mn=-1&Ra=-3&To=0&Nu=144&Fr=2) that is the "Directors Cut". The fr import is 106min and according to blurayregioncodesDOTcom the DC is 122min.

Does anyone else have any info on this version (http://video.fnac.com/a2233691/Mr-et-Mrs-Smith-Edition-Blu-Ray-Brad-Pitt-Blu-Ray?PID=83487&Mn=-1&Ra=-3&To=0&Nu=144&Fr=2)? I want to import it but want to be sure it is of good quality and does not have forced subtitles.

ps - thanks to Blacklac for the 411 on this:p

MSmith83
04-17-09, 06:38 PM
I think they are both the same French BD released by M6 Video. Fnac.com had that cover posted for a long time now. Amazon.fr once used that cover as well, but later changed it. I got the BD from Amazon.fr, and it is definitely the director's cut with defeatable subtitles.

General Kenobi
04-17-09, 07:14 PM
I think they are both the same French BD released by M6 Video. Fnac.com had that cover posted for a long time now. Amazon.fr once used that cover as well, but later changed it. I got the BD from Amazon.fr, and it is definitely the director's cut with defeatable subtitles.

Good to know, thanks for the info. amazon.fr says 115 min so I wonder if some of the sources that site 122 min run time are including credits?

raoul_duke
04-17-09, 07:23 PM
The image on that link is incorrect, the French BD's artwork mirrors the artwork from other territories. The actual cover is also wrong in its running time, it say 106mins, yet the actual disc runs 125mins 33secs. No mention of this being the Dir's Cut is anywhere to be found on the sleeve or disc.

Encoded in AVC, English DTS-HD-MA and removable subs. The extras may be in PAL, though.

MSmith83
04-17-09, 07:26 PM
Whether it is listed on an e-tailer's site or on the back cover, run times seem to be commonly misidentified. The back cover of this particular release lists a 106 minute run time, but it is actually over 125 minutes.

EDIT: I see that raoul chimed in. Yes, the extras are indeed PAL.

mumbles3k
04-17-09, 07:32 PM
One thing to be aware of is that when I ordered this disc from Amazon France, they also had another version available from the UK or something which was not the Director's Cut. So just make sure you are getting the French BD.

General Kenobi
04-17-09, 07:37 PM
One thing to be aware of is that when I ordered this disc from Amazon France, they also had another version available from the UK or something which was not the Director's Cut. So just make sure you are getting the French BD.

It looks like there are 2 available from amazon.fr - this one (http://www.amazon.fr/Mrs-Smith-Blu-ray-Pitt-Brad/dp/B000O771WO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1240009918&sr=8-7) and this one (http://www.amazon.fr/Mr-Mrs-Smith-Brad-Pitt/dp/B0015KGJ2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1240011413&sr=8-1).

MSmith83
04-17-09, 07:43 PM
this one (http://www.amazon.fr/Mr-Mrs-Smith-Brad-Pitt/dp/B0015KGJ2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1240011413&sr=8-1).

That's the one.

MRMOTA
04-18-09, 11:02 PM
No forced titles on the French Version. Video quality was as good as the American release.

General Kenobi
04-19-09, 02:31 AM
That's the one.

Well it doesn't look like my account is carried over so I have to compare pages, guess on some French questions and create a amazon.fr account:rolleyes: The things we do to get these gems.

FoxyMulder
04-19-09, 05:08 AM
I have this release and think the image quality is very good. It's a shame i cannot play the extra's on my American Playstation 3 but i bought it for the movie so that's not much of a problem although if anyone knows what the alternate ending is then please feel free to write it in the spoiler tags on this thread or PM me as i would have liked to have checked that out.

MJeeves
04-19-09, 05:31 AM
this one (http://www.amazon.fr/Mr-Mrs-Smith-Brad-Pitt/dp/B0015KGJ2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1240011413&sr=8-1).

So this one is the Director's Cut? Yes?

Thanks

andreasy969
04-19-09, 08:55 AM
So this one is the Director's Cut? Yes?

Thanks

Yes. (I own that disc)

MJeeves
04-21-09, 05:20 PM
Yes. (I own that disc)

Thanks buddy. :D

So... just to be sure... this French bluray is the only place to get the Director's Cut in HD. The US and UK releases are NOT the Director's Cut. Is that correct? :confused:

raoul_duke
04-21-09, 05:24 PM
thanks buddy. :d

so... Just to be sure... This french bluray is the only place to get the director's cut in hd. The us and uk releases are not the director's cut. Is that correct? :confused:
Yes!!!!!!!!!!! ;);)

MJeeves
04-21-09, 05:49 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!! ;);)

Thanks. Just ordered it! :D

Blacklac
04-21-09, 11:00 PM
Glad that's cleared up. :p

stigdu
04-22-09, 02:08 PM
Might be worth noting though re: the French Blu-ray -

Non-English dialogue sections of the film, do not have English subtitles.

ramzy
04-22-09, 02:26 PM
Might be worth noting though re: the French Blu-ray -

Non-English dialogue sections of the film, do not have English subtitles.

Can you remind how much non-English sections there are in the movie?

Just to summarize, the cheaper version on Amazon Fr is the director's cut?

GmanAVS
04-22-09, 02:34 PM
I do not own this movie yet nor have iI seen it at the theater but it is on my radar.... what is in these 19 min of extra footage? (hoping you all say 19 min. of naked Angelina :D)

Thanks,

Gman

mumbles3k
04-22-09, 02:51 PM
Can you remind how much non-English sections there are in the movie?

There's not that much. There's one or two scenes at the beginning, and then one or two on-screen graphics. Certainly nothing that you can't infer from the action on screen.

I do not own this movie yet nor have iI seen it at the theater but it is on my radar.... what is in these 19 min of extra footage? (hoping you all say 19 min. of naked Angelina )

No, this film is noteworthy for not having 19 min of Angelina nudity. :)

However, the director's cut is very interesting in that does not just feature 19 minutes of footage randomly inserted into the film. They've actually gone back and re-cut a fairly substantial amount of the movie. There are added scenes, but there are also scenes which have been cut out. The sound has been re-mixed in certain areas too. The most noteworthy of these is the film's climax. There are also little alterations, like a shot where a cigarette had been digitally removed from an ash tray has now been restored to how it was filmed.

Doug Liman explains on the commentary that an early test screening of the film did so insanely well that the studio decided to leave the movie as it was, despite the fact that Liman had not finished editing it. However, they did allow him to finish the movie the way he wanted to and release it on home video. The end result is something which more closely reflects Liman's art house roots.

coolstrategist
04-22-09, 03:30 PM
OK...now a different version question...

How does the preferred BD dc version differ from the Polish import HD DVD version that many of us have (fyi..I have not watched/opened my HD DVD yet)?

GmanAVS
04-23-09, 08:53 AM
Thank you. I'll have to ge tboth versions at some point then

General Kenobi
04-27-09, 04:12 PM
Just received my copy from amazon.fr today (6 business days to CA). I noticed that on the back it says MPEG2, is this right? Run time on the back says 106.

FoxyMulder
04-27-09, 04:18 PM
Just received my copy from amazon.fr today (6 business days to CA). I noticed that on the back it says MPEG2, is this right? Run time on the back says 106.

The bonuses are in MPEG2 and it says on the back of the case Bonus ( 96mn env. )
Next to that on the left of it you should see under Film ( 106 mn env ) 1080p haute definition 2.35 and it mentions AVC.

The running time on the box is wrongly labelled though.

If you have the french edition it should mention Francais and Anglais as being the languages.

The PAL bonus content does not play in American coded players ( As i unfortunately found out on my import Playstation 3 )

General Kenobi
04-27-09, 04:44 PM
The bonuses are in MPEG2 and it says on the back of the case Bonus ( 96mn env. )
Next to that on the left of it you should see under Film ( 106 mn env ) 1080p haute definition 2.35 and it mentions AVC.

The running time on the box is wrongly labelled though.

If you have the french edition it should mention Francais and Anglais as being the languages.

The PAL bonus content does not play in American coded players ( As i unfortunately found out on my import Playstation 3 )

Ahhh, now I see... I was looking at the wrong section. thanks:p

Deviation
04-27-09, 05:02 PM
However, the director's cut is very interesting in that does not just feature 19 minutes of footage randomly inserted into the film. They've actually gone back and re-cut a fairly substantial amount of the movie. There are added scenes, but there are also scenes which have been cut out. The sound has been re-mixed in certain areas too. The most noteworthy of these is the film's climax. There are also little alterations, like a shot where a cigarette had been digitally removed from an ash tray has now been restored to how it was filmed.

Doug Liman explains on the commentary that an early test screening of the film did so insanely well that the studio decided to leave the movie as it was, despite the fact that Liman had not finished editing it. However, they did allow him to finish the movie the way he wanted to and release it on home video. The end result is something which more closely reflects Liman's art house roots.
I've always thought before that the "Unrated" release of this movie on DVD was something superfluous with a few minutes of cut footage spliced in just so they could double dip.

Now I actually feel like I've been missing out on something. :(

I guess I'll just add it to the pile of releases that Fox needs to go back to at some point (where's my unrated copy of Live Free or Die Hard, Fox? WHERE IS IT?!).

Fanboyz
04-27-09, 08:04 PM
I also want the unrated Die Hard 4, and don't forget the Director's cut of Fantastic Four.
Fox sucks.

General Kenobi
04-28-09, 01:28 AM
Ok, I watched this last night and overall the PQ was pretty good but I think the audio track was the star of the show! I don't remember the theatrical release well enough to comment on what value was added by the additional footage but I did enjoy the movie more than the first time I saw it FWIW.

IanD
05-01-09, 03:54 AM
Amazon France have just increased the price of the Directors Cut from 15Euro to 24Euro :(

What lousy luck, just moments before I was going to place an order.

kobeeightjp
05-01-09, 01:33 PM
wow thats pricey. I just received mine in the mail today and when I ordered it...it was 12.53 eur. I am not sure what the deal is, but my american player DOES play pal extras. They are all working (and yes it is the french version)! I also imported a copy of In Bruges where I was told I wouldnt be able to view extras but they all work. I have a samsung bd-p2500. I love that machine!

FoxyMulder
05-02-09, 10:04 AM
wow thats pricey. I just received mine in the mail today and when I ordered it...it was 12.53 eur. I am not sure what the deal is, but my american player DOES play pal extras. They are all working (and yes it is the french version)! I also imported a copy of In Bruges where I was told I wouldnt be able to view extras but they all work. I have a samsung bd-p2500. I love that machine!

Lucky you the Playstation 3 won't play the extra's at all.

IanD
05-29-09, 08:22 AM
Amazon in general seem to be up and down like a yoyo in pricing for titles and it makes placing an order for multiples at the best possible price very difficult (and that means greater reluctance to finalise a sale).

Not long after they raised the price of Mr & Mrs Smith Directors Cut to 24Euro, they dropped it back to 19.99Euro at which point I decided to bite the bullet. Whilst it may have dropped back down to 14Euro at some point, the likelihood of one of the other titles increasing in the meanwhile was quite high.

I can't stand this yoyo practice on Amazon.com and I was disappointed to see Amazon.fr following the same approach.

If they kept prices constant and dropped them for a true sale (and kept them there), there would be more certainty and stability and I would feel happier about placing more orders. It isn't true price competition IMO, when retailers just follow each others price fluctuations (which is what seems to be happening).

GmanAVS
05-29-09, 09:04 AM
IanD, did you receive it yet? Pls post your impressions :)

Waiting for it to drop below eur15

IanD
05-29-09, 09:35 AM
My setup is not really good enough to do qualitative comparisons and I haven't yet watched the local Theatrical cut, so I can't contribute much.

I did wonder if DNR had been applied as there didn't appear to be much grain, but the English DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtrack did sound good and overall it looked okay.

As the only way to currently watch the Directors Cut (which I have now done), I'm treating this exercise as a rental equivalent and not hanging onto this title. Hopefully the Directors Cut will experience more universal distribution, with more features (eg English subtitles during foreign language segments) and at lower prices in the not too distant future; or better yet, both versions provided in the one package; at which time I will consider repurchase. I suspect this title might be difficult to do via seamless branching for both versions.

FoxyMulder
05-29-09, 09:39 AM
I did wonder if DNR had been applied as there didn't appear to be much grain, but the English DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtrack did sound good and overall it looked okay.



No DNR that could be called excessive on this one. I would be the first to complain if that had happened.