Anyone have some keen insight?

Will there be burn in if I have the desktop of a HTPC on for a few hours?

Do yourself a favor and don't buy Sony. I take tech support calls on Sony TVs for a major retailer (can't say which). You won't believe the amount of repair calls I have to send out for Sony's. The reason is that Sony seems to have forgotten what "qualify control" is at their CHINESE factory for their TV's (even the XBRs are made in China).

As far as the Panasonic, burn in should not be an issue as long as you don't leave the desktop on the screen for many hours (20+).

The panasonic will do nearly every single thing better, picture-quality wise. Blacks, contrast, shadow detail, motion resolution, uniformity, viewing angle, you name it, its better on the G10 than the sony set. A no-brainer here.

You will not get burn-in, unless you like to pause things for many weeks or months. You may or may not see some temporary image retention, but it will always wash away, often immediately. Many owners never even see a hint of IR however.

On the new panasonics, you probably couldn't get true burn-in if you really, really, tried. This is a non-issue.

the panasonic will do nearly every single thing better, picture-quality wise. Blacks, contrast, shadow detail, motion resolution, uniformity, viewing angle, you name it, its better on the g10 than the sony set. A no-brainer here.

You will not get burn-in, unless you like to pause things for many weeks or months. You may or may not see some temporary image retention, but it will always wash away, often immediately. Many owners never even see a hint of ir however.

On the new panasonics, you probably couldn't get true burn-in if you really, really, tried. This is a non-issue.

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The panasonic will do nearly every single thing better, picture-quality wise. Blacks, contrast, shadow detail, motion resolution, uniformity, viewing angle, you name it, its better on the G10 than the sony set. A no-brainer here.

You will not get burn-in, unless you like to pause things for many weeks or months. You may or may not see some temporary image retention, but it will always wash away, often immediately. Many owners never even see a hint of IR however.

On the new panasonics, you probably couldn't get true burn-in if you really, really, tried. This is a non-issue.

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Anyone have some keen insight?

Will there be burn in if I have the desktop of a HTPC on for a few hours?

screen saver.

well burn in can still occur new plasmas,infact one of the european website that reviewed the panasonic PZ80 warned about using it with a pc.

well burn in can still occur new plasmas,infact one of the european website that reviewed the panasonic PZ80 warned about using it with a pc.

No.

No.

well yes,http://www.digitalversus.com/article-364-3520-60.html

well yes,http://www.digitalversus.com/article-364-3520-60.html

Finally, this plasma is subject to burn-in and you will have to avoid or be careful when using PC and game consoles that could damage the panel by leaving fixed images displayed for too long.

I don't care what one website says that I've never heard of. You won't get irreversible burn in on a current generation Panasonic unless you leave it on the same screen for weeks if not months.

I don't care what one website says that I've never heard of. You won't get irreversible burn in on a current generation Panasonic unless you leave it on the same screen for weeks if not months.

Agreed... Just don't leave it on the Dynamic picture mode and don't leave the computer screen on 24 hours a day and you will be fine.

Just my observation: the V5100 Sony's have very poor color accuracy and very bad viewing angles.

I don't care what one website says that I've never heard of. You won't get irreversible burn in on a current generation Panasonic unless you leave it on the same screen for weeks if not months.

well u don't care ,since u are a plasma fan boy,but there are lots of people who care,the fact is plasma is not immune to burn it will happen and u don't need weeks or months ,give me plasma for a day i will show u that it can get a burn in and if don't care about that website there are lot of other websites which says the same.

well u don't care ,since u are a plasma fan boy,but there are lots of people who care,the fact is plasma is not immune to burn it will happen and u don't need weeks or months ,give me plasma for a day i will show u that it can get a burn in and if don't care about that website there are lot of other websites which says the same.

Do you own a plasma? I've had 4 different ones over the past 4 years. I used them all with pc and video games. No burn in and only slight image retention on the older sets.

You can't burn in a plasma in a day. You obviously know nothing about the subject so I'd recommend exiting this thread or at least doing some research on the subject instead of spreading your bogus lies.

If you leave an LCD on same image for weeks it will burn in too.

I've seen many at factories that have a standard image for their electronic meters.

Fact is, you would have to disable ALL of the antiburn tech that Panasonic uses to get screen burn-in on one.

(even journalist can be wrong)

I can show you last years model pioneer plasma with nbc10 news image burned in permanently and GOOD.

They watch the 5 o clock news every day and not much else. Shame is, image burn is alive and well on plasma.

If your using it for a PC monitor do yourself a favor and get a LCD. Now for the plasma fanboy knockin sony, do yourself a favor and ignor anyone with such a one company biased opinion.

Sony LCd are kickass and suffer from no more defects than any other LCD or plasma for that mater which have all kinds of issues of thier own.

Both technologies have thier problems read and research on your own but im sure youll find that for gaming and especially as a PC monitor youd do yourself justice with an LCD panel.

Just my opinion.

I can show you last years model pioneer plasma with nbc10 news image burned in permanently and GOOD.

They watch the 5 o clock news every day and not much else. Shame is, image burn is alive and well on plasma.


Give me a break son!

I think you should just set the toolbars, taskbars, adressbars, etc to "AUTOHIDE" on your computer and you should be fine with the superior Plasma over the Inferior LCD.

Give me a break son!


Sorry that it upsets you but it is what it is. Normal people watching tv with image burn in on a recent pioneer plasma.

Sorry that it upsets you but it is what it is. Normal people watching tv with image burn in on a recent pioneer plasma.

I don't think I can take anyone seriously about plasma technology when they own a 52V4100...I can't imagine spending more than a few hundred dollars for a TV like that, especially with all the better options out there.

I can show you last years model pioneer plasma with nbc10 news image burned in permanently and GOOD.

They watch the 5 o clock news every day and not much else. Shame is, image burn is alive and well on plasma.

I agree with normal use burn-in is of little concern.

I would hardly call watching the same news program with the same logo on the screen.... exclusively... normal use. If what you are saying is true then they have put the first few hundred hours on the display with the same logo present almost all the time. That is not good... and it's also something that few people will do.

Do you own a plasma? I've had 4 different ones over the past 4 years. I used them all with pc and video games. No burn in and only slight image retention on the older sets.

You can't burn in a plasma in a day. You obviously know nothing about the subject so I'd recommend exiting this thread or at least doing some research on the subject instead of spreading your bogus lies.

well i don't own a plasma for the obvious reasons ,burn in is one of the reason.well plasmas aren't immune to burn in and just because i don't own them doesn't mean i don't know about them, i have seen plasmas getting a burn in and they got it overnight and do u expect me to believe in some people claims like thisYou will not get burn-in, unless you like to pause things for many weeks or months now thats what we call a bogus or a lie.

well i don't own a plasma for the obvious reasons ,burn in is one of the reason.well plasmas aren't immune to burn in and just because i don't own them doesn't mean i don't know about them, i have seen plasmas getting a burn in and they got it overnight and do u expect me to believe in some people claims like thisYou will not get burn-in, unless you like to pause things for many weeks or months now thats what we call a bogus or a lie.If you look at the mechanisms of Plasma burn in the chances of permanent differential phosphor aging is more likely from long repetitive abuse than any other type of use.

We all know that every display on the market has a brightness lifetime. The problem is that displays that generate light in individual pixels are all capable of burning in an image because each pixels brightness decreases with use independent of each other and dependant on usage time of each pixel.

That being said the same paranoia about PDP burn in will transfer to new pixel emissive technologies like OLED and SED/FED. And since OLED lifetime is much worse than PDP we can expect the burn-in issue to be much worse as well.

In that respect it looks like LCD is the only option for those who fear burn-in.

well i don't own a plasma for the obvious reasons ,burn in is one of the reason.well plasmas aren't immune to burn in and just because i don't own them doesn't mean i don't know about them, i have seen plasmas getting a burn in and they got it overnight and do u expect me to believe in some people claims like thisYou will not get burn-in, unless you like to pause things for many weeks or months now thats what we call a bogus or a lie.

wouldn't the definition of burn in mean that you would have to age something more than another to create a noticeable difference in brightness. With the enormous lifespans of current plasmas, wouldn't that have to be a great deal of 'abnormal' viewing to create 'burn-in' and not just IR.

getting conflicting reports of 'burn-in' with the people saying that it is pretty much a thing of the past being called 'fan boys' and having logical arguments to back up there statements.

So OP would have problems if he left the desktop on for a while?

What are the other obvious reason to not own a plasma?

I don't think I can take anyone seriously about plasma technology when they own a 52V4100...I can't imagine spending more than a few hundred dollars for a TV like that, especially with all the better options out there.


TVs I have owned since 1998

Mitsubishi 40 inch CRT
2002 Panasonic 42 inch plasma 5k dollars
2004 Pioneer elite 50 inch plasma 6k dollars
2006 Sony SXRD 50 inch XBR 3500 dollars
2007 Sony SXRD 55 inch replancement for blobed xbr
2009 Sony 52v5100

I have had everything there is CRT Plasma LCD

My panny burned in ever so slightly with more care than you can imagine. I then watched the Pioneer elite which did not burn in but if you played a game for an HR you could see image retention that took a while to go away. Very scary on a 6k set.

By that time the 6k set stated it was burn proof as did everyone around here.
I personally decided I was off that train as I gamed to much. The SXRD and now the LCD are beutiful sets that are tremndously better in bright daytime viewing which I do alot of and actually produce a more film like effect for viewing which I also like better IMO and many others opinions but most importantly not everyones opinion.

The only thing I wish the set did better was motion. Plasma isnt the be all end all of set. In fact it is just as far from it as LCD.

So insulting me by my set choce is a HUGE mistake on your part. It only shows your ignorance.

Again my parents have a set a Pioneer plasma last yrs model possible 2 yrs ago modle not sure. Either way it was supposed to be "burn proof" (I thought when something is proofed it means unless you do something extreme it aint gonna happen)

They changed channels and watched different things during break in. Then they watched the news from 5 to 7 like most older people do. then watch a show or two later and went to bed.

6 months to a yr later they have nbc10 burned on thier set. That is pretty normal viewing for alot of people. IMO.

I am glad yours doesn't burn in but there are ALOT of people that do have burn on their sets.

Some form normal viewing and some from hrs of gaming or watching the same program.

If I so decide to leave my set on a news station for 4 hrs or more because some event is happening Im glad I got an LCD. Since like you said thats not normal viewing.

Again my parents have a set a Pioneer plasma last yrs model possible 2 yrs ago modle not sure. Either way it was supposed to be "burn proof" (I thought when something is proofed it means unless you do something extreme it aint gonna happen)

They changed channels and watched different things during break in. Then they watched the news from 5 to 7 like most older people do. then watch a show or two later and went to bed.

6 months to a yr later they have nbc10 burned on thier set. That is pretty normal viewing for alot of people. IMO.

I am glad yours doesn't burn in but there are ALOT of people that do have burn on their sets.

Some form normal viewing and some from hrs of gaming or watching the same program.

If I so decide to leave my set on a news station for 4 hrs or more because some event is happening Im glad I got an LCD. Since like you said thats not normal viewing.

I don't believe you. They wouldn't have NBC burned into their sets if they watched other channels as well. It only takes a few minutes to get rid of IR when you change to another channel.

well i don't own a plasma for the obvious reasons ,burn in is one of the reason.well plasmas aren't immune to burn in and just because i don't own them doesn't mean i don't know about them, i have seen plasmas getting a burn in and they got it overnight and do u expect me to believe in some people claims like thisYou will not get burn-in, unless you like to pause things for many weeks or months now thats what we call a bogus or a lie.

Since you've never owned a plasma your comments can't be taken seriously. If you saw something on the screen overnight it was image retention not burn in and it goes away.

Get a clue.

Since you've never owned a plasma your comments can't be taken seriously. If you saw something on the screen overnight it was image retention not burn in and it goes away.

Get a clue.

well it was indeed a burn IN that i saw and it was being used as a monitor by my cousin.

I don't believe you. They wouldn't have NBC burned into their sets if they watched other channels as well. It only takes a few minutes to get rid of IR when you change to another channel.


Ok, fair enough. Dont believe me. But I have absolutly no reason to lie. As I said before there are pluses and minuses to both monitor types.

I'm a plasma fan and owner, but LCD is superior for use as a monitor.

And it is clear many people here don't understand the difference between Image Retention and Uneven Wear, both usually described as burn-in. Uneven wear is an issue that is inherent to plasma technology and the ONLY improvement on newer plasmas is the lifespan, which does delay uneven wear but will not prevent it entirely. I have brought this up several times in the past but every poster that claimed they ignored things like using black bars excessively or using it as a PC with no issues had not had their TV for more than 18 months.

Now, as I understand it, serialmike's parents mostly watch the news, which has a logo. They watched programming with this logo for many months without watching much else. Burn-in is definately possible in that situation, and plasma is not a good choice for them. This specific viewing habit is warned against in my manual.