Just found this on WSR, any takers??

http://www.widescreenreview.com/news_detail.php?id=18450


I know with the 3 SA players, 2 HTPC's, and XBox360 addon I am set to use the 200+ HDDVD's I already have.

Only available to USA resident....

I'm going to do it. It's a win-win. Keep your original HD DVDs minus the covers you send to Warner for Blu replacements. I think I have near 200 HD DVDs.

I'm going to do it. It's a win-win. Keep your original HD DVDs minus the covers you send to Warner for Blu replacements. I think I have near 200 HD DVDs.

Max is 25 that you can trade in and you have to pay a small fee with shipping costs. Does not sound like a good idea at all.

The actual discs are useless to the studio. This is an incentive and promotional program to transition the first adopter HD DVD owners to Blu-ray. Pretty much for previous Warner HD DVD owners you can transition a 25 disc HD DVD library over to Blu-ray for $125 bucks, and hopefully you will start buying Blu-ray's at a higher rate.

Like the trade in programs for HD DVD hardware after the format war, this is design to take away the pain of buying into high definition and is a targeted promotion to high value users. If it costs them $2 per disc for a 10 to 25 disc library its a $20 or $50 promotional cost micro targeted at high value users that they still actually break even on, and creates oodles of goodwill where people think they are getting $100-$300 of product value.

Great move.

Max is 25 that you can trade in and you have to pay a small fee with shipping costs. Does not sound like a good idea at all.
Should have read the fine print I guess. So, for 25 titles, it's $130.70 w/shipping. That's $5.23/title. It may be possible to eBay the 25 HD DVDs w/o sleeves at a price that would get your $130 investment back, unless a lot of people start doing the same thing & driving the value down. Yeah, come to think of it, this may be too much hassle...I'd do it if I could turn in all my HD DVDs, not just 25.

I'm split, on one hand it would be nice to consolidate everything to one format, on the other hand its paying money for very little additional content if any. I think I'm going to wait to see what the first reports are from people who have done it. Do you get the full blu-ray packaging? or just the discs, in the event of upgrades like Casablanca do I get the box set?

Is there a list of titles that are actual upgrades to bd? rather than repackaging or downgrades? I'm thinking I want to exchange Casablanca and the Ultimate Matrix, maybe a few others, but I'll wait to see...

What of us that have spent a lot of time with custom cover art... of course most times we have the UPC code on the back... but it does leave questions.... And as much of a packrat as I am I LITERALLY just through the originals out about 2 weeks ago... FML

Is there a list of titles that are actual upgrades to bd? rather than repackaging or downgrades? I'm thinking I want to exchange Casablanca and the Ultimate Matrix, maybe a few others, but I'll wait to see...

+1.

Warner isn't like Universal where there are a lot of Blu-Ray releases that have upgrades from HD DVD version. Definitely no upgrades to the titles listed on the site.

Who said HD didn't have any effect on BD sales. ha.

Here's the press release in full:

Burbank, CA, April 22, 2009 – Warner Home Video (WHV) has announced the launch of two new programs, “Warnerblu Buy 5 Get 1 Free,” the Studio’s first-ever Blu-ray Disc™ customer loyalty program, and an HD-DVD trade up program, “Red2Blu,” which offers HD-DVD owners the opportunity to upgrade their Warner Home Video releases on HD-DVD for a Blu-ray Disc of the same movie.

For those who have chosen to watch movies at home the best way possible, with the picture and sound that you can only get on Blu-ray Disc, the new “Warnerblu Buy 5 Get 1 Free” program offers consumers one free Blu-ray movie for every five participating titles purchased through April 6, 2010 (shipping and handling not included). “Warnerblu Buy 5 Get 1 Free” is open to residents in the United States and Canada.

To join “Warnerblu Buy 5 Get 1 Free,” consumers register at Warnerblu.com/rewards (http://warnerbros.eprize.net/goblu/index.tbapp). After joining, members earn one credit for each subsequent WHV Blu-ray title they purchase. Once their Blu-ray title is registered, their Warnerblu account is credited,and when they reach five Blu-ray titles, they will be able to select a free WHV Blu-ray Disc (plus shipping and handling).

The first participating Blu-ray release is Yes Man,released on April 7. For details and restrictions and a list of upcoming participating WHV titles, visit WarnerBlu.com/rewards.

In addition to “Warnerblu Buy 5 Get 1 Free,” WHV has announced a new program, “Red2Blu,”for those who want to upgrade titles they currently own on HD-DVD to Blu-ray. By visiting Red2Blu.com, consumers can trade up virtually any of their WHV HD-DVD titles (up to 25) for the same title on Blu-ray for a small fee plus shipping and handling. For details and restrictions, visit Red2Blu.com (http://red2blu.com/). “Red2Blu” is available to residents of the United States only.

Also, to promote the launch of “Warnerblu Buy 5 Get 1 Free,” WHV is launching the “Blu-ray Today” sweepstakes, featuring a grand prize of $5,000. Once they enter the sweepstakes, customers can return to the web site every day for additional entries (one per day). The “Blu-ray Today” sweepstakes runs now through April 6, 2010 on WarnerBlu.com.

To register for “Warnerblu Buy 5 Get 1 Free,” to take advantage of “Red2Blu,” and for more information on the sweepstakes, visit Warnerblu.com/rewards or Red2Blu.com.

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Click on http://red2blu.com/products.html and click 'Show All' to see all 128 HD-DVD titles in this promotion.

I'm personally OK with this. Just because I enjoy HD-DVD doesn't mean people that enjoy high-def media and want to have all (or most of) their movies/concerts/etc. in one format shouldn't have a chance for a relatively cheap path to that format. Our main criticism of AVS posters boasting proudly that they were dumping HD-DVD titles for their BD counterpats was that it was an unnecessary waste of money for the exact same transfer. For under $10 ($4.95 plus S&H which can't be more than five bucks) these BD's would cost about what they go for on sale a few times a year during an amazon 3-for-2 BOGO.

I am going to trade up at least my Harry Potter gift set. I believe the BD version has 1080p extras, will be nice to get those.

This is a pretty darn good deal, considering you get to keep your HD-DVD media...it's not like a trade-in so much as a great way to get these movies cheap. Heck, if you have someone you need to buy gifts for you can always send in your covers and get sealed copies on Blu to give away and keep the HD-DVD copies for yourself. Seems like a win-win to me; you can always print out one of the alternate covers posted here anyway.

So I am basically paying $5-6 per disc more to insure my HD collection with a format which may require I buy an additional $200+ box??
Esp. when there is no sign of wear or tear on my initial format nor is there an improved PQ/AQ quality in the WB transfer?

How is this a good deal again?

The actual discs are useless to the studio. This is an incentive and promotional program to transition the first adopter HD DVD owners to Blu-ray. Pretty much for previous Warner HD DVD owners you can transition a 25 disc HD DVD library over to Blu-ray for $125 bucks, and hopefully you will start buying Blu-ray's at a higher rate.

Like the trade in programs for HD DVD hardware after the format war, this is design to take away the pain of buying into high definition and is a targeted promotion to high value users. If it costs them $2 per disc for a 10 to 25 disc library its a $20 or $50 promotional cost micro targeted at high value users that they still actually break even on, and creates oodles of goodwill where people think they are getting $100-$300 of product value.

Great move.

Hardly a good will gesture, especially since it is not an upgrade. HD DVD owners don't need to pay extra for blue-colored cases with the same encodes. Warner may be trying to cash in on the flood of old HD DVD inventory that is beginning to surface. This may be their way of making a profit, however small, on the discs they dumped to third parties. After all, where did the Bonnie and Clyde HD DVD come from all of a sudden, just before the release of the blu-ray?

How is this a "design to take away the pain of buying into high definition"? HD DVD IS high definition. HD DVD owners have already made the transition to high definition. The only transition they haven't made is from exclusive red or inclusive purple to exclusive blue.

Pardon my skepticism; but if it comes from Warner, I assume that all the good will is meant for Warner, not for the consumer. A real gesture of good will would have come earlier, not when folks are buying up Warner discs on HD DVD at $5 to $10 a pop. If you trade in that cheap disc, when you add $5 plus shipping to a bargain, it isn't a bargain anymore.

But I am sure you will see discs without cover art showing up all over the place now, as people try to get back the $5 plus shipping surcharge to trade red for blue. Of course, when you can get the same disc new with cover art from an online supplier for $5 to $10, what would consumers be willing to pay for a disc without the art? $3? $2? $1? Who knows?

If people are ashamed to have red covers on their shelf, it would cost a lot less just to replace the red covers with blue ones. You can buy lots of ten, twenty or a hundred for low cost online. Other than the color of the case, I can't see why people would pay extra to get the same transfer and PQ (in most cases).

So I ask, apart from "good will," what is Warner afraid of? Why the sudden change of heart? Are these the same new execs who are willing to press CHDVD discs for China? Will they ask the Chinese to trade in their CHDVD discs for blu-ray for a certain amount of yuan plus shipping?

You state, "hopefully you will start buying Blu-ray's at a higher rate..." Warner's concern is that bargain buys in HD DVD will hurt, however insignificantly and however short-term, their blu-ray sales. So, it is hoped that trading for a few blu-ray discs will increase the appetite to buy more blu-ray. The problem is that cheap HD DVD's have made many retail blu-rays look unappetizing, especially when the same title appears in both colors.

The problem is not ours, for holding onto our HD DVD's, but the studios', for pricing their discs the way they do in a very tight economy. Blu-ray is selling quite well, all things considered. This may be due to the fact that the wealthy folk who buy such things haven't felt the impact of the economy yet. But, for many people out there, the cheapest equivalent is the best buy. It is -- and always has been -- an issue of best bang for the buck.

Just MHO.

Depend if you're stuck with a dead HD DVD Player. Like my friend for example. He have about 40 title. About half / half Universal and WB. But he'll only rebuy those he have when they are in special. If your HD DVD player is working fine, i see no reason to 'upgrade'.

The problem is not ours, for holding onto our HD DVD's, but the studios', for pricing their discs the way they do in a very tight economy. Blu-ray is selling quite well, all things considered. This may be due to the fact that the wealthy folk who buy such things haven't felt the impact of the economy yet. But, for many people out there, the cheapest equivalent is the best buy. It is -- and always has been -- an issue of best bang for the buck.

Just MHO.

Yep - the great war was supposed to be a boon for BD fanatics. Why they are still having to sit on the sidelines waiting for the ever elusive price drops is a mystery.

Price has always been the determinant. Not technology - in this case it was BD's capacity nothing more.

I think this deal is great.
I only have 3 qualifying disks, Planet Earth, Troy, and Swordfish. Two of which i got for free and have never even opened.
so for $27.87 after tax, i can copy the coverart, keep my HD-DVD movie intact, and get the Blu copy for when i purchase a BD player.
This also allows me to do a side by side of HD-DVD vs Bluray for these three titles for fun.
so for 27.87 + the $30 i spent of Planet Earth I get 2 copies of each.

Dave

Depend if you're stuck with a dead HD DVD Player. Like my friend for example. He have about 40 title. About half / half Universal and WB. But he'll only rebuy those he have when they are in special. If your HD DVD player is working fine, i see no reason to 'upgrade'.

Of course, an HD DVD player can be replaced more cheaply than spending $130 or more for replacement blu-ray discs with shipping. Everything but the XA2 (or its Onkyo clone) and the A35 is wildly affordable right now.

Let me add: As a genuine good will gesture, Warner should provide free replacements with free shipping. Now, that would be a genuine good will gesture.

I think this deal is great.
I only have 3 qualifying disks, Planet Earth, Troy, and Swordfish. Two of which i got for free and have never even opened.
so for $27.87 after tax, i can copy the coverart, keep my HD-DVD movie intact, and get the Blu copy for when i purchase a BD player.
This also allows me to do a side by side of HD-DVD vs Bluray for these three titles for fun.
so for 27.87 + the $30 i spent of Planet Earth I get 2 copies of each.

Dave

Instead of getting duplicate copies of what you already have, why not spend the money on new blu-ray titles you don't already have?

I think this deal is great.
I only have 3 qualifying disks, Planet Earth, Troy, and Swordfish. Two of which i got for free and have never even opened.
so for $27.87 after tax, i can copy the coverart, keep my HD-DVD movie intact, and get the Blu copy for when i purchase a BD player.
This also allows me to do a side by side of HD-DVD vs Bluray for these three titles for fun.
so for 27.87 + the $30 i spent of Planet Earth I get 2 copies of each.

Dave

Were you even watching your HD copy enough to warrant anxiety over it's longevity?

Many here have bought hundreds or even just a dozen & have not had the time to watch their HD catalogue more than once or not @ all.
So I wonder where this worry is coming from to have to worry about buying an insurance policy on your disc + a potential new box.

Just like DVD's, were the HD going to die in just a couple of years of service?

Were you even watching your HD copy enough to warrant anxiety over it's longevity?

Many here have bought hundreds or even just a dozen & have not had the time to watch their HD catalogue more than once or not @ all.
So I wonder where this worry is coming from to have to worry about buying an insurance policy on your disc + a potential new box.

Just like DVD's, were the HD going to die in just a couple of years of service?

I think the concern is with the longevity of the players, and not the discs.

May do the Harry Potter disks, but I don't have the Ultimate Matrix Box set :(, just the regular 3 movie box set on hd-dvd.

... but I don't have the Ultimate Matrix Box set :(, just the regular 3 movie box set on hd-dvd.
I'm in the same boat; I've got the 3-disc Matrix set and for some reason that isn't included. Is there a way to contact them to find out what the deal is?

Other than that this is a great little promotion that I may as well take advantage of because one day my dual-format player will either cease to function or be too outdated to play new discs.

I was just about to come in here and ask about the complete matrix, and see others have similar questions.

I'm wanting to do this, but i have reservations on some titles:
1) Superman Returns: will the blu have True HD?
2) Is it worth it to spend an additional $5 on titles that will no doubt be re-released -- Superman titles. We know there will be a 5 movie box set in the future... should i pay $15 to upgrade these just so I can pay more for another edition?
3) Are there any other titles where the blu-ray is a downgrade? I know there were some differences with 300 and Blood Diamond.

There's also the issue where there isnt an equivalent blu (Smallville S5) and a few others...

Of course, as it was suggested on another forum, you could keep your HD DVD's, print out custom cover art for them, and resell the brand new blu-ray discs and sets for a handsome profit, especially Harry Potter or Planet Earth.

May do the Harry Potter disks, but I don't have the Ultimate Matrix Box set :(, just the regular 3 movie box set on hd-dvd.

ditto. I don't mind having the HD DVDs of the Matrix though, but I am tempted with Harry Potter Boxset and Casablanca though.

I am going to trade up at least my Harry Potter gift set. I believe the BD version has 1080p extras, will be nice to get those.

+1

I also look at this as a win-win. All i have to do is scan and copy the cover, put that in my red case, send in the original sleeve and now I have 2 copies. There are some that I would like to go blu on. HP is a good one. Batman Begins is another.... and so on.

Technically you could even just sell the old HD DVD on ebay with a printed cover. It is not like you don't have the case for it.... not that you get much for them now anyway.

I really like my HD DVDs and prefer them over my BDs, but I do worry about long term playability even though I have an HD-805, HD-A3, Xbox add on and an LG GGC-H20l PC drive.

I will concede one plus for the bluray: I am really impressed with this 3M coating. It makes them much less prone to accidental scratches..... like no one has accidentally dropped one before.

I wouldn't do it on all of them though.... maybe just about 10.

Edit: Looking over the list, I might do a bit more. I didn't realize how many warner titles that I have. Batman, Supermas, HPs, I am legend... I could easily do $25. I do like the idea of selling these on ebay to recoup the cost. I think I may be in for more like 20-25.

Love this plan... A few of my disc, now skip... I all ready have a blue ray player, so... nice way to get a scratch free disk

cue WB hd dvd cover art thread...

Very interesting, it doesn't sound half bad, I only wish they would have come up with this program when they initially back stabbed lol.Toshiba.
Also I'm sure I have over 25 WB title, I wonder if I use another name so I can get the remaining WB titles to Blu Ha ha?

Another thing I am Legend, does the Blu version contain extras that the HD version don't? I would like to get Casablanca, and Robin hood in blu. My Matrix ultimate box stays unless they change that price!

Djoel

Depend if you're stuck with a dead HD DVD Player. Like my friend for example. He have about 40 title. About half / half Universal and WB. But he'll only rebuy those he have when they are in special. If your HD DVD player is working fine, i see no reason to 'upgrade'.

I don't get it: what is it that holds your friend back from buying a new HD DVD player for ~$50...?

Hardly a good will gesture, especially since it is not an upgrade. HD DVD owners don't need to pay extra for blue-colored cases with the same encodes. Warner may be trying to cash in on the flood of old HD DVD inventory that is beginning to surface. This may be their way of making a profit, however small, on the discs they dumped to third parties. After all, where did the Bonnie and Clyde HD DVD come from all of a sudden, just before the release of the blu-ray?

How is this a "design to take away the pain of buying into high definition"? HD DVD IS high definition. HD DVD owners have already made the transition to high definition. The only transition they haven't made is from exclusive red or inclusive purple to exclusive blue.

Pardon my skepticism; but if it comes from Warner, I assume that all the good will is meant for Warner, not for the consumer. A real gesture of good will would have come earlier, not when folks are buying up Warner discs on HD DVD at $5 to $10 a pop. If you trade in that cheap disc, when you add $5 plus shipping to a bargain, it isn't a bargain anymore.

But I am sure you will see discs without cover art showing up all over the place now, as people try to get back the $5 plus shipping surcharge to trade red for blue. Of course, when you can get the same disc new with cover art from an online supplier for $5 to $10, what would consumers be willing to pay for a disc without the art? $3? $2? $1? Who knows?

If people are ashamed to have red covers on their shelf, it would cost a lot less just to replace the red covers with blue ones. You can buy lots of ten, twenty or a hundred for low cost online. Other than the color of the case, I can't see why people would pay extra to get the same transfer and PQ (in most cases).

So I ask, apart from "good will," what is Warner afraid of? Why the sudden change of heart? Are these the same new execs who are willing to press CHDVD discs for China? Will they ask the Chinese to trade in their CHDVD discs for blu-ray for a certain amount of yuan plus shipping?

You state, "hopefully you will start buying Blu-ray's at a higher rate..." Warner's concern is that bargain buys in HD DVD will hurt, however insignificantly and however short-term, their blu-ray sales. So, it is hoped that trading for a few blu-ray discs will increase the appetite to buy more blu-ray. The problem is that cheap HD DVD's have made many retail blu-rays look unappetizing, especially when the same title appears in both colors.

The problem is not ours, for holding onto our HD DVD's, but the studios', for pricing their discs the way they do in a very tight economy. Blu-ray is selling quite well, all things considered. This may be due to the fact that the wealthy folk who buy such things haven't felt the impact of the economy yet. But, for many people out there, the cheapest equivalent is the best buy. It is -- and always has been -- an issue of best bang for the buck.

Just MHO.

Fully agreed and let me add that our HD DVDs are ALL region-free unlike BD (I haven't checked WB releases specifically but bet they are NOT region-free.)

ditto. I don't mind having the HD DVDs of the Matrix though, but I am tempted with Harry Potter Boxset and Casablanca though.

What's new in Casablanca? :eek:

So far the only one I might have some interest in is my The Matrix Ultimate set but it's only about owning Animatrix in 1080p instead of SD... not sure I'd watch it more than once and that $15 roughly covers an entire month of Blockbuster By Mail's 3-at-a-time plan with unlimited Blu-Ray requests and in-store returns...

PS: it's actually $21.90 :eek: due to the ginormous $6.95 rip-off (aka "shipping") fee...

I guess with Bonnie and Clyde you just send in the paper from the back?

The way I'm seeing this is WB is making more of a splash with this program than anything.
I can see a new wave of sub HD DVD's fan emerging from the back countries, and dark alleys across this planet.:eek:

Djoel

I am going to do this with several of my wb hd dvds' $5 is too good to pass up and I only have 1 hd dvd player. I am going to call Warner also about the Superman Returns for the high def audio.

I am going to do this with several of my wb hd dvds' $5 is too good to pass up and I only have 1 hd dvd player. I am going to call Warner also about the Superman Returns for the high def audio.


I called Warner about Superman Returns she stated that if you send in the one with TRUE HD you will get the same blu disc with TRUE HD.
Now this is coming from a rep but I think I will pay the $5 on this one.

Who said HD didn't have any effect on BD sales. ha.

Thinking the same thing. :D

That this exchange program is starting 15 MONTHS after Warner killed HD-DVD by turning Blu tells me this is a reaction by Warner to sales/market conditions over that period, not an attempt to transition HD-DVD owners into BD consumers (if it were this would have happened last year around the time Warner's last HD-DVD releases came out). Maybe it's just that not enough BD copies of these movies have sold (even in BOGO deals) and Warner has warehouses stacked with them. Lowering the price below $10 would set a precedent/minimum threshold Warner doesn't want to set (Lionsgate first-gen releases like "Total Recall" and "Stargate" permanently reside in the $10 price range at Walmart) so an exchange with HD-DVD (a) gets them a little bit of money back (instead of the total loss of the BD copy sitting in a warehouse) without actually affecting retail price and (b) takes the HD-DVD counterpart out of the used sales market by forcing exchangers to give up the cover (which is a big deal in that it affects resale prices).

Who was it that said in this forum that sales of HD-DVD media had absolutely no effect on BD sales whatsoever? Well, if Warner is concerned-enough 15 months after effectively killing HD-DVD with collecting covers of its movies so the HD-DVD copies are gimped in the 2nd hand market (off and online), there must have been at least the perception at Warner that the HD-DVD users were affecting BD sales just a little bit. Not every BD is "The Dark Knight" and sells a million plus copies on release week and keep on selling. ;)

I would like to trade in my Matrix set but they do not want the cover art, or my receipt from buying it, they want some piece of paper that was stuck to the back of the box! The first thing I did when I bought that set was take that paper off and throw it away. :mad:

I was just about to come in here and ask about the complete matrix, and see others have similar questions.

I'm wanting to do this, but i have reservations on some titles:
1) Superman Returns: will the blu have True HD?
2) Is it worth it to spend an additional $5 on titles that will no doubt be re-released -- Superman titles. We know there will be a 5 movie box set in the future... should i pay $15 to upgrade these just so I can pay more for another edition?
3) Are there any other titles where the blu-ray is a downgrade? I know there were some differences with 300 and Blood Diamond.

There's also the issue where there isnt an equivalent blu (Smallville S5) and a few others...

Not sure about the TrueHD. I know some of mine do. I think some will be rereleased, but I imagine most won't. I have watched most of mine already anyway... some multiple times. I am not sure I would flinch much even it is a "downgrade"

I called about the Matrix set (I don't have the ultimate set, just the 3-movie box set) and was told they will be adding more movies to this offer as time goes on so it may show up as an option later on. They suggested I use the "sign up for Blu-Ray updates" link in the upper right so that I'd know when it was available.

Works for me.

I only have 10 red discs and my A3 is now in the bedroom, so $43 for 6 blues (including Planet Earth) is worth it.

That this exchange program is starting 15 MONTHS after Warner killed HD-DVD by turning Blu tells me this is a reaction by Warner to sales/market conditions over that period, not an attempt to transition HD-DVD owners into BD consumers (if it were this would have happened last year around the time Warner's last HD-DVD releases came out). Maybe it's just that not enough BD copies of these movies have sold (even in BOGO deals) and Warner has warehouses stacked with them. Lowering the price below $10 would set a precedent/minimum threshold Warner doesn't want to set (Lionsgate first-gen releases like "Total Recall" and "Stargate" permanently reside in the $10 price range at Walmart) so an exchange with HD-DVD (a) gets them a little bit of money back (instead of the total loss of the BD copy sitting in a warehouse) without actually affecting retail price and (b) takes the HD-DVD counterpart out of the used sales market by forcing exchangers to give up the cover (which is a big deal in that it affects resale prices).

Who was it that said in this forum that sales of HD-DVD media had absolutely no effect on BD sales whatsoever? Well, if Warner is concerned-enough 15 months after effectively killing HD-DVD with collecting covers of its movies so the HD-DVD copies are gimped in the 2nd hand market (off and online), there must have been at least the perception at Warner that the HD-DVD users were affecting BD sales just a little bit. Not every BD is "The Dark Knight" and sells a million plus copies on release week and keep on selling. ;)

Excellent point! What cheap HD DVD's are competing with are the old blu-ray titles that are harder to move, but are not discounted enough to sell in a hurry.

Imagine going into two different bookstores and finding the same book, but in two different editions: The one with the blue cover is the latest edition and costs $29.95, and the one with the red cover (the contents are practically the same) is on the remainder shelf and costs $5.

I'm tempted with the HP giftset. I really would like to complete it with 6 & 7.1/7.2 when they come out, but I'm worried Warner won't even release them to go with the trunk boxset or will end up re-releasing it so you'd have to buy it all over again to have one cohesive set. I've been there before in prior releases that these special packaging versions don't always get the later releases :(

I called about the Matrix set (I don't have the ultimate set, just the 3-movie box set) and was told they will be adding more movies to this offer as time goes on so it may show up as an option later on. They suggested I use the "sign up for Blu-Ray updates" link in the upper right so that I'd know when it was available.

Anyone know when this expires?

25 per household should be easy enough to get around too if you have relatives in the area or can accept stuff at work. The 4-5 weeks for shipping scared me.... until I realized that you will still have your old disks.

I am actually relooking over the warner titles that I don't have yet. This could actually be a pretty sweet deal for the few that I don't own yet. If you could buy one for 4-5 shipped, it would cost you about $10-13 overall and you would have both the HD DVD and bluray copies. Trying to think if WB did combos or not which would be an added bonus.

I think the concern is with the longevity of the players, and not the discs.

The concern would be warranted for XBox360 ppl.
Every1 else reporting Toshiba box issues are quantified as insignificant.

Because that's what BD has been saying about HD over the years, that it was insignificant.

Now this latest 'gesture' LOL!

Its official: You can upgrade Matrix (Complete or Ultimate) for 14.95! You also will be able to probably send your Harry Potter Cardboard UPC, instead of the case for "Year One." -- I gotta admit this actually a pretty cool deal.

If you upgrade your Planet Earth will they send you the UK or US version? I have the narration with David Attenborough.

If you upgrade your Planet Earth will they send you the UK or US version? I have the narration with David Attenborough.
I don't think Warner has anything to do with the Discovery version (US).

That this exchange program is starting 15 MONTHS after Warner killed HD-DVD by turning Blu tells me this is a reaction by Warner to sales/market conditions over that period, not an attempt to transition HD-DVD owners into BD consumers (if it were this would have happened last year around the time Warner's last HD-DVD releases came out). Maybe it's just that not enough BD copies of these movies have sold (even in BOGO deals) and Warner has warehouses stacked with them. Lowering the price below $10 would set a precedent/minimum threshold Warner doesn't want to set (Lionsgate first-gen releases like "Total Recall" and "Stargate" permanently reside in the $10 price range at Walmart) so an exchange with HD-DVD (a) gets them a little bit of money back (instead of the total loss of the BD copy sitting in a warehouse) without actually affecting retail price and (b) takes the HD-DVD counterpart out of the used sales market by forcing exchangers to give up the cover (which is a big deal in that it affects resale prices).

Who was it that said in this forum that sales of HD-DVD media had absolutely no effect on BD sales whatsoever? Well, if Warner is concerned-enough 15 months after effectively killing HD-DVD with collecting covers of its movies so the HD-DVD copies are gimped in the 2nd hand market (off and online), there must have been at least the perception at Warner that the HD-DVD users were affecting BD sales just a little bit. Not every BD is "The Dark Knight" and sells a million plus copies on release week and keep on selling. ;)

Yes. Thank you for your common sense. ;)

That this exchange program is starting 15 MONTHS after Warner killed HD-DVD by turning Blu tells me this is a reaction by Warner to sales/market conditions over that period, not an attempt to transition HD-DVD owners into BD consumers (if it were this would have happened last year around the time Warner's last HD-DVD releases came out). Maybe it's just that not enough BD copies of these movies have sold (even in BOGO deals) and Warner has warehouses stacked with them. Lowering the price below $10 would set a precedent/minimum threshold Warner doesn't want to set (Lionsgate first-gen releases like "Total Recall" and "Stargate" permanently reside in the $10 price range at Walmart) so an exchange with HD-DVD (a) gets them a little bit of money back (instead of the total loss of the BD copy sitting in a warehouse) without actually affecting retail price and (b) takes the HD-DVD counterpart out of the used sales market by forcing exchangers to give up the cover (which is a big deal in that it affects resale prices).

Who was it that said in this forum that sales of HD-DVD media had absolutely no effect on BD sales whatsoever? Well, if Warner is concerned-enough 15 months after effectively killing HD-DVD with collecting covers of its movies so the HD-DVD copies are gimped in the 2nd hand market (off and online), there must have been at least the perception at Warner that the HD-DVD users were affecting BD sales just a little bit. Not every BD is "The Dark Knight" and sells a million plus copies on release week and keep on selling. ;)

So why don't Universal and Paramount share a similar concern????:confused: where is their trade back program??

Why is this only coming from WB? Maybe because they are the studio that single handedly screwed over HD DVD customers?;) Maybe they are the studio that got all of the HD DVD customer's hate mail, etc.?? And are looking for a way to erase any ill will?

I guess the "massive" sales of cheap HD DVD's (to dual format owner's that actually buy blurays) must really have bluray backed into a corner...or not, since Paramount and Universal aren't conducting such a program. But there are plenty reasons why WB could be doing this...and unless WB explicitly states why they are doing this, all reasons posted here are pure speculation, including mine and yours above.

I don't think this has anything to do with HD DVD sales remaining high. It is new releases that tend drive up sales numbers. Anything on HD DVD at this point is a catalog title..... on a dead format.

I don't have any hate for WB for their actions. They stayed neutral for both bluray and HD DVD while many studios made you pick one side or the other. How does it benefit the customer that you could only get Transformers on HD DVD or Spiderman on Bluray.

Bribe money aside, I think they waited long enough and then finally did the consumer a favor by picking BD. I was red first and purple later. In the end, it is still the same movie in the same resolution which comparible features. I was ticked at first and my then 12 year old daughter (now 13 turning 18) looked at me like I sold my sole to the devil when I bought my first bluray. It is amazing how time changes your perception.

I really appreciate and respect WB for doing this. I think this is a good will measure. Think about it, are they really going to come out ahead selling BDs for $4.95 plus what amounts to $.27 shipping when you order 25? I wouldn't expect Paramount to do this. Nor Universal. Their support for HD has been lip service at best. I am sure the warehouse aspect does play into that as well.

As far as they can't all be TDK, Last year wasn't a great year for worthwhile movies in terms of quantity (I picked up Iron Man and TDK.... and there wasn't much else that I really wanted aside from catalog titles which I won't pay more than 10-12 for when I already own them on DVD). We will see how this year pans out. I already see 4-5 that I will want on bluray. After the initial thrill of buying HD disks again, I have comed back down and do a combination of renting, buying cheap DVDs and buying BDs when it is worth it to me.

Can't wait to get Wolverine, Star Trek and a few others that I will deem worthy. Its ashame Watchmen wasn't as good as I had hoped.

Its official: You can upgrade Matrix (Complete or Ultimate) for 14.95! You also will be able to probably send your Harry Potter Cardboard UPC, instead of the case for "Year One." -- I gotta admit this actually a pretty cool deal.

Where did you get this info about The Complete Matrix from. The web site is only showing The Ultimate Matrix for the offer.

...and unless WB explicitly states why they are doing this, all reasons posted here are pure speculation, including mine and yours above.


Ummmm...& the point of AVS software threads or any chatboard are....

What's new in Casablanca? :eek:

I want to say that its a better encode and it has a lot of new bonus materials. I could be wrong, but the BD retails for like $60.

I'm quite happy with this deal. I was Ebay'ing HD-DVD's last year, and buying used/on-sale BD', and was fairly happy if the switch per disc was around $5. I still have 30 or so HD-DVD's and will happily pay $5 to switch all of them if given the chance. Come on Universal...

Greg

I don't think Warner has anything to do with the Discovery version (US).

Warner distributed Discovery, National Geographic and BBC.

Are *any* Warner Blu-ray's superior? My understanding is they used the same encodes across the board. 640Kbps DD+ on HD DVD and 640Kbps DD on Blu-Ray or PCM/TrueHD on Blu-Ray and TrueHD on HD DVD.

I would like to trade in my Matrix set but they do not want the cover art, or my receipt from buying it, they want some piece of paper that was stuck to the back of the box! The first thing I did when I bought that set was take that paper off and throw it away. :mad:

It's not that I want to trade my Matrix set in, but it is really the only one I would consider, but I too threw that paper out right away.

Frankly though, as a person who has a few HD-DVD players (onkyo 805, A30, and xbox add-on) this doesn't have much value to me. Even if I could convert all my HD-DVDs, the sunk cost in addition to the $5 for each movie in order to "upgrade" is hardly worth it (and yes I realize I get to keep the discs and case, but I don't want to go through the hassle of reselling them or sitting on them, if anything I'd give my players and movies to my family).

I'd be better off just waiting for all my hd-dvd players to go bad, and by the time that is likely to happen all of these movies should be able to be had for around $5 each anyway. And if not, oh well, it is a chance I am willing to take.

It's not that I want to trade my Matrix set in, but it is really the only one I would consider, but I too threw that paper out right away.

Frankly though, as a person who has a few HD-DVD players (onkyo 805, A30, and xbox add-on) this doesn't have much value to me. Even if I could convert all my HD-DVDs, the sunk cost in addition to the $5 for each movie in order to "upgrade" is hardly worth it (and yes I realize I get to keep the discs and case, but I don't want to go through the hassle of reselling them or sitting on them, if anything I'd give my players and movies to my family).

I'd be better off just waiting for all my hd-dvd players to go bad, and by the time that is likely to happen all of these movies should be able to be had for around $5 each anyway. And if not, oh well, it is a chance I am willing to take.

I will have to think about this more as well now that I am thinking of it. I have an HTPC. It is so much easier to work with HD DVDs than BDs.

“Blu-ray high def not only delivers the best possible movie watching experience, it’s also packed with added value, including digital copy, Blu-ray exclusive bonus features and BD-Live,” said Kris Brown, VP of worldwide high definition, Warner Home Video. “Whether its rewarding consumers for their loyalty or helping them transition into Blu-ray at a very low cost, these programs are a reflection of our commitment to bringing value to the Blu-ray consumer.”
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/warner/warner-bows-blu-incentives-15450

I have nothing against Warner(other than their HD discs don't have a top menu) and I think this is a good will gesture.Eventually my XA2 will break and I won't be able to watch my HD DVD's,I have about 15 titles on their list but I'm still not sure if the upgrade is worth it.
Anybody know when this offer expires?

I have nothing against Warner(other than their HD discs don't have a top menu) and I think this is a good will gesture.Eventually my XA2 will break and I won't be able to watch my HD DVD's,I have about 15 titles on their list but I'm still not sure if the upgrade is worth it.
Anybody know when this offer expires?

+1 The other question is will the format be irrelevant by the time you can't play them anymore. Upgrading now sounds grate, but what if there is a better standard available when the player eventually goes. I don't use mine as a regular player anymore.... I personally use my htpc. As it is now, I have double dipped on so many titles already that I owned on DVD. I stopped thinking of these as an investment a long time ago. I still remember looking at the DVDs that way 10 years ago... and VHS 10 years before that. Where are my VHS titles? in a box in storage. Where are my replaced DVDs? Sold on ebay for $2-3. I am not even sure if $5 is worth replacing them for.

I know someone will say that this resolution will last 30-40 years, but I have heard that before. Contrary to what most have said in the past, the tube has changed over time. Technology always improves, or else what would they sell us next? It will get better barring some MadMax alternate future. It is just a question of when and to what degree.

I am trying to decide too. I have 23 on the list but I would not buy half of them again, even for $5.
I am pretty sure about:

Planet Earth
Bonnie and Clyde (just takes the paper from the back that is not attached)
Casablanca (I want the Ultimate)

i think its a great deal. i can get brand new blu rays and just ebay them. you can buy nearly all the hd dvd's new for 5.99 each where the blu ray version is around $30.

i think its a great deal. i can get brand new blu rays and just ebay them. you can buy nearly all the hd dvd's new for 5.99 each where the blu ray version is around $30.

Well. That is a good point. maybe

$5.27 each with 25 involved. You sell those on feebay for what? $13 average minus fees brings you to about $10 and then minus 5.27. so that is alot of work for $125. I thought about that too. My time is too valuable. It was enough of a pain selling my DVD that I didn't want anymore 6 months ago ... about 150. I ended up bulking the last 35 and sold them for $30. Its ashame.... thinking of how much I paid for them.

Most of these titles are catalog at this point and can be gotten for about $13-18 using various websites on BD. So it is unrealistic to expect $30 for them. I only paid $22 for the TDK and $15 for Iron Man.

You would be better off going to one of those storage auctions and selling that stuff on ebay.

i can get brand new blu rays and just ebay them.

I thought about that but after shipping costs you only make about $7 a disc:
Upgrade BD = $6.95
Wait four weeks to get BD from Warner
Sell to buyer = $17
Shipping to buyer = $3


Is it worth my time and trouble when I can rent the BD version whenever I feel like it?

I thought about that but after shipping costs you only make about $7 a disc:
Upgrade BD = $6.95
Wait four weeks to get BD from Warner
Sell to buyer = $17
Shipping to buyer = $3


Is it worth my time and trouble when I can rent the BD version whenever I feel like it?

Another thought that I just had is how much will the Bluray equivalent be in 5-8 years when my onkyo, toshy, xbox add on and lg dual format drive go down?

I can buy most DVDs now for less than $10 anyway and most for alot less. The one plus that I can think of potential portability. None of my relatives have a BD player yet and I wouldn't get a bluray car portable. So that rules it out for me..... I probably wouldn't want to chanc taking over my disks anyway. I have made that mistake to often in the past.

For $100 for 20 disks, I could just buy another 5-10 blurays that I haven't seen yet or don't own yet.

The one that is tempting me the more that I am thinking about it are my Harry Potters. I will eventually get the complete set in the end and having one format on those would be nice.... I guess. Maybe the same for Terminator 3 as I have T1 and T2 on BD.... then again...

Wow I didn't realize how many sealed WB HD's I have:eek:, and half my collections are WB:eek:
Don't have nearly as many Blu's as I thought.

What if that certain copy happens to be a foreign one? Like Beowulf, I got it from Australia.

Djoel

Over 2/3 of the HD DVDs I still have are WB. I was just wondering what I was going to do. I couldn't afford all of them on BD, and it wasn't even worth selling them on eBay. I just sold FMJ a few months ago. :(

Screw Warner.....

Having already purchased BD versions that included obvious (?) upgrades, my initial interest in this offer has faded. In some cases, I'd be paying to switch a movie that has gone unwatched and I don't think that (WB only) I would hit 25 titles.

I have about 150 HD DVD titles - a third are WB. If you'd asked me to switch for $5 back in Black February, I'd probably would have passed thinking that the players would last long enough. Across all studios, it would have been an awesome gesture at THAT time instead of long after the fire sales, and long after it could generate goodwill (IMHO).

My Harry Potter Collection is still in the wrapper. (?)

No thanks, I have 3 HD DVD players and there will be a new format before those break.

May do the Harry Potter disks, but I don't have the Ultimate Matrix Box set :(, just the regular 3 movie box set on hd-dvd.

I'm in the same boat; I've got the 3-disc Matrix set and for some reason that isn't included. Is there a way to contact them to find out what the deal is?

Other than that this is a great little promotion that I may as well take advantage of because one day my dual-format player will either cease to function or be too outdated to play new discs.

I called about the Matrix set (I don't have the ultimate set, just the 3-movie box set) and was told they will be adding more movies to this offer as time goes on so it may show up as an option later on. They suggested I use the "sign up for Blu-Ray updates" link in the upper right so that I'd know when it was available.

Where did you get this info about The Complete Matrix from. The web site is only showing The Ultimate Matrix for the offer.

It would be nice if the Complete Matrix was also included. Right now I think I'll be doing the lone Matrix for the digi book version and two other titles. I've heard some folks always wanting the lone Matrix movie so this is a good opportunity for the Complete Matrix Owners. The local Fry's is out of most hddvd Warner titles. I gave it a thought to buy some cheap movies and get the blu version. At this point the only reason I am keeping my A2 is because I own the UK version of the Bourne trilogy. I never bought into the combo disks..

I'll pass. Too little, too late. If it had been a tit for tat fine...but not when I have to pay for it. I don't think there will be a huge amount of takers on this, but they can see they tried to extend a hand which counts for something I guess. I'll stay purple with my sleeves thank you very much.

Instead of getting duplicate copies of what you already have, why not spend the money on new blu-ray titles you don't already have?

+1 here, thats the way I look at it. I will continue to collect HDDVD's (especially at "fire sale" pricing).

The money you spend on "double dipping" can be used towards future (Blu) releases such as LOTR and Star Trek. ;)

I think i'll stick with my original plan of backing up all my HD DVDs to Bluray myself when the pc burners get down to about a hundred bucks and the blank discs get a bit cheaper. Wouldn't it be nice if Toshiba had a similar plan for the players?

They should be paying to trade up all the movies they sold when they 100% knew they were going to dump HD DVD, which for me was the harry potters a few days before announcement. Also, I bought the high def encode, if my hd dvd player goes down I'll stream those movies I own on HD DVD from a hard drive, I don't need another disc taking up space.

and you can even upgrade from VC-1 to mpeg2 in some cases ... :p

It would be nice if the Complete Matrix was also included. Right now I think I'll be doing the lone Matrix for the digi book version and two other titles.

I spoke with customer service this morning. Selecting the Ultimate Collection, and sending the cover art for all three films will suffice if you own the Complete Collection.

I'm using this to buy HD DVD titles that I didn't already have, such as the Ultimate Matrix set, the Harry Potter set, etc. I just bought the HD DVDs, and when they arrive, I'll redeem the cover art (or box, in some cases) for a Blu-Ray copy. Then I'll sell the Blu-Ray on eBay. Looking at completed eBay prices, I should at worst come out even on the HD DVDs (i.e., they won't have cost me anything), and I might even make a profit. For example, you can buy the Harry Potter HD DVD set for $20-30, pay WB $15 plus a little shipping for the Blu-Ray upgrade, and sell the Blu-Ray for upwards of $80.

At first I was thinking about this as a way to get a cheap back up. I have 180+HD DVDs so I still would have to keep my players around around for the rest. As some one else said would you rather spend the money on another copy of a movie you already have or spend it on new ones (blu or HD DVD)?

I might consider selling or giving my covers to my brother for blu ray movies.

Well, last night i went ahead and ordered a few switches.

Batman Begins, Casablanca, Ultimate Collector's Edition, Harry Potter 1-5 Limited Edition Giftset, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, Phantom of the Opera, and V for Vendetta. I figure that I should have some of my favorite films in the format that is going to be going on for a while. Batman and HP mainly so I can have the entire series on one format.

The more I look @ this, the more I think the way to go is to: look in the glutted HD market & buy cheap $1-$3 HD of stuff you don't have & then trade them in for equivalent BR for ~$5 more.

So my ~ net cost is ~$9-$10 for a BR that will play on my BH200.

The BIGGEST CAVEATE IS THAT the HD is available for cheap if @ all!

I don't feel it is wise to 'insure' my current working HD collection w/ the equivalent BR. But it is more wise to 'upgrade' w/ stuff I don't have.

Anyone know when this expires?
I asked about that too, and was told at this time there was no expiration date.

I can't believe people are actually complaining about this.

I asked about that too, and was told at this time there was no expiration date.
Expiration is 12/31/09, if not sooner, according to the Program Rules (http://red2blu.com/library/r2b_rules.pdf)

I can't believe people are actually complaining about this.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. NO kidding. You should go to the slickdeals website to see people REALLY bitching..."I am wondering what version of Planet Earth they will send me. I have the BBC one and don't want the US one."
I told these people to shut the hell up, because you would then end up with BOTH of them if they send you the USA one because you get to keep your discs!
It is very very surreal...

I spoke with customer service this morning. Selecting the Ultimate Collection, and sending the cover art for all three films will suffice if you own the Complete Collection.

Wait a minute. So we can trade in our complete matrix sets for ultimate matrix sets that include the 1080p animatrix?

I guess with Bonnie and Clyde you just send in the paper from the back?

Bonnie and Clyde HD DVD will fetch a heck of a lot more on eBay or here than with this offer. I just purchased one for ~$70. These are collector's item since it's the only one WB HD DVD Book.

The more I look @ this, the more I think the way to go is to: look in the glutted HD market & buy cheap $1-$3 HD of stuff you don't have & then trade them in for equivalent BR for ~$5 more.

So my ~ net cost is ~$9-$10 for a BR that will play on my BH200.

The BIGGEST CAVEATE IS THAT the HD is available for cheap if @ all!

I don't feel it is wise to 'insure' my current working HD collection w/ the equivalent BR. But it is more wise to 'upgrade' w/ stuff I don't have.

That is alot of work to save $4-5 at most. Many of these are available on the Amazon B2G1 free sale which puts the cost at about $13.

That is alot of work to save $4-5 at most. Many of these are available on the Amazon B2G1 free sale which puts the cost at about $13.

Yeah - that's my point (to myself @ least).

Worked this out several different ways & unless you are really paranoid that your HD box/disc will break or your original HD costs were substantially below the 'insurance' prices, this is no way a good deal for the work involved.

Most of us with any substantial HD collection had already bought - per disc - in the <$10 range. So any replacement upgrade is an addl ~$5 on top of those costs.
A price I am unwilling to pay for 'sales' BD much less any other movie.

I sent in mine yesterday for Planet Earth. The website clearly shows the picture for "Planet Earth: The Complete BBC Series" and the title underneath shows "Planet Earth: The Complete..." After I sent in my covers yesterday I got scared that I might in fact receive the US Discovery Channel version which I do not want!

I did call R2B customer service and the CS rep did not sound 100% confident in her answer that I would receive the BBC version but did say that I would receive as shown on the R2B site. And she didn't think there would be any returns allowed if I was unhappy.

Question - Can WB only send the BBC version or do they have rights to the Discovery Channel version ?

Yeah - that's my point (to myself @ least).
Worked this out several different ways & unless you are really paranoid that your HD box/disc will break or your original HD costs were substantially below the 'insurance' prices, this is no way a good deal for the work involved.


It is interesting to read some of the different opinions being placed not only in this forum but the blu side as well. What I can't figure out is some folks excitement that they're trading for something with the magic coating since apparently HD dvd scratch easily.

If someone is letting their dvds no matter what format get scratched that easy (not counting buying already used) they need to get out of this hobby anyway.

I, for one, can't see the point of this trade-in program. As a collector with literally hundreds of titles, I certainly won't start trading in my discs for another format that really has no appreciable difference in sound and picture quality. I can see some poeple with a small collection doing so perhaps... but to those folks I say "Hang on to your discs! Although they might not be worth a tremendous amout in ther future they will always be collectors items". As a collector of CEDs, laserdiscs, and D-VHS tapes, I can attest that there's nothing like seeing your friends' amazed looks at those "weird" things.

Bonnie and Clyde HD DVD will fetch a heck of a lot more on eBay or here than with this offer. I just purchased one for ~$70. These are collector's item since it's the only one WB HD DVD Book.

I just got mine from inet for $9.99 and since I opened it, figuered the value is gone. Plus I plan on keeping it for my collection and not reselling it. The price for a new copy from them is now $17.99 but it is out of stock. They almost always get more so if you want another one keep an eye out. I don't care about the back piece of paper so I will just trade that for a blu copy, and keep my HD DVD too.

I sent in mine yesterday for Planet Earth. The website clearly shows the picture for "Planet Earth: The Complete BBC Series" and the title underneath shows "Planet Earth: The Complete..." After I sent in my covers yesterday I got scared that I might in fact receive the US Discovery Channel version which I do not want!

I did call R2B customer service and the CS rep did not sound 100% confident in her answer that I would receive the BBC version but did say that I would receive as shown on the R2B site. And she didn't think there would be any returns allowed if I was unhappy.

Question - Can WB only send the BBC version or do they have rights to the Discovery Channel version ?

I received reply (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16327570#post16327570) from other thread. Looks like BBC it is. :)

Shhh....don't tell no one. I heard a rumor of Warner Brothers hiring a hitman to hunt down Traderbora.:p

I, for one, can't see the point of this trade-in program. As a collector with literally hundreds of titles, I certainly won't start trading in my discs for another format that really has no appreciable difference in sound and picture quality. I can see some poeple with a small collection doing so perhaps... but to those folks I say "Hang on to your discs! Although they might not be worth a tremendous amout in ther future they will always be collectors items". As a collector of CEDs, laserdiscs, and D-VHS tapes, I can attest that there's nothing like seeing your friends' amazed looks at those "weird" things.

Yep, now I'll have both. I can print a copy of the HD-DVD artwork that looks just like the original.

I received reply (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16327570#post16327570) from other thread. Looks like BBC it is. :)

It's pretty clear from the red2blu website that it's the BBC version. The Discovery version has completely different artwork.

Floodgate open (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=10105) ;).

Think they will let me trade Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone?

Damn that was fast.

Floodgate open (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=10105) ;).

Pretty funny considering you do not get the original artwork but have the pleasure of paying around $5 bucks each. More power to him/her if they can pull it off.

Not a bad upgrade on some titles but a downgrade on others.

300, Blood Diamond, Harry Potter films lacking IME or PIP
Phantom of the Opera, Happy Feet lacking True HD

I have already seen a lot of folks trying to sell their disc collections with photocopied covers. Dang people move fast!

Now my question is, are there people out there who still want to buy these things? I have about 30 HD-DVDs and I wouldn't mind selling them but I can't get $5 each and that is with new covers, since folks can buy them for $1.99 and such on various closeout sites.

Now maybe I could dump my whole collection of 30 if I was willing to sell them for $1.99 each (and maybe I couldn't even sell them for that low!) but it just isn't worth my time for that little. I would rather keep them.

Of course I am the same fool who bought over 100 LD's in the early 90's for about $30 each and sold all 100 for about $200 total in 2003. I sense a theme here, something about those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

Pretty funny considering you do not get the original artwork but have the pleasure of paying around $5 bucks each. More power to him/her if they can pull it off.

He/She better hope that WB doesn't say "sorry, we never received your covers".

The site lists the Matrix but this title was never available as a stand alone was it. I thought it only came in the Matrix Ultimate collection.

just got this email re: my missing piece of paper from my matrix boxed set:


Hello Chris,

Thank you for contacting Red2Blu!

In the collection is a disk titled "Matrix Revolutions", please remove the artwork from this title and send that in for your exchange in lieu of the page with the UPC.

I hope this information has been helpful

Warm Regards,
Chanda
www.red2blu.com

I have already seen a lot of folks trying to sell their disc collections with photocopied covers. Dang people move fast!

Now my question is, are there people out there who still want to buy these things? I have about 30 HD-DVDs and I wouldn't mind selling them but I can't get $5 each and that is with new covers, since folks can buy them for $1.99 and such on various closeout sites.

Now maybe I could dump my whole collection of 30 if I was willing to sell them for $1.99 each (and maybe I couldn't even sell them for that low!) but it just isn't worth my time for that little. I would rather keep them.

Of course I am the same fool who bought over 100 LD's in the early 90's for about $30 each and sold all 100 for about $200 total in 2003. I sense a theme here, something about those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

Don't be tough on yourself. your time will come esp. when BR goes out of style for sure.

The site lists the Matrix but this title was never available as a stand alone was it. I thought it only came in the Matrix Ultimate collection.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i284/jixsaw/ackbar_its_a_trap.jpg

Pretty funny considering you do not get the original artwork but have the pleasure of paying around $5 bucks each. More power to him/her if they can pull it off.

I try not to judge a book by its cover but most of us hobbyists here wouldn't pay more than a buck for those each.

Of course, there is a sucker born every minute as they say.

i have transformers on HD DVD
i have been wanting to get the BD version for the TrueHD track

the BD version sells for about $17

so for $11 i can have a BD copy for trading my HD DVD cover...

sounds good to me. but i wouldnt do this on every title i got.

EDIT
i just saw i can also get Planet Earth from them
I will defenitely do that one.

Pretty funny considering you do not get the original artwork but have the pleasure of paying around $5 bucks each. More power to him/her if they can pull it off.

At least with mine (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=10114) you get a player and no covers removed. :D

Damn that was fast.
That was posted yesterday :lol:

At least with mine (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=10114) you get a player and no covers removed. :D

Pretty sure of yourself buddy boy, it figures, a Steelers fan. :rolleyes::D

Indy (we lose most of the time in the first round) Colts fan here. :p

Floodgate open (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=10105) ;).

I mentioned this problem yesterday in the BD Software forum:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16324322#post16324322
I knew it was only a matter of time.

I decided this upgrade is not worth it for me,when my XA2 breaks I can always buy a used BD or rent it.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i284/jixsaw/ackbar_its_a_trap.jpg

ROTFLMAO:D

"We can't repel mousetraps of that magnitude";)

i have transformers on HD DVD

Transformers is Dreamworks, not WB.

i have transformers on HD DVD
i have been wanting to get the BD version for the TrueHD track

the BD version sells for about $17

so for $11 i can have a BD copy for trading my HD DVD cover...

sounds good to me. but i wouldnt do this on every title i got.

EDIT
i just saw i can also get Planet Earth from them
I will defenitely do that one.

OK, you get a soundtrack upgrade on Transformers, but what do you get with Planet Earth?

It is interesting to read some of the different opinions being placed not only in this forum but the blu side as well. What I can't figure out is some folks excitement that they're trading for something with the magic coating since apparently HD dvd scratch easily.

If someone is letting their dvds no matter what format get scratched that easy (not counting buying already used) they need to get out of this hobby anyway.

Like you have never dropped a disk or forgotten to put one back in its case? Most of mine are fine, but the 3M coating is really amazing.

I, for one, can't see the point of this trade-in program. As a collector with literally hundreds of titles, I certainly won't start trading in my discs for another format that really has no appreciable difference in sound and picture quality. I can see some poeple with a small collection doing so perhaps... but to those folks I say "Hang on to your discs! Although they might not be worth a tremendous amout in ther future they will always be collectors items". As a collector of CEDs, laserdiscs, and D-VHS tapes, I can attest that there's nothing like seeing your friends' amazed looks at those "weird" things.

I don't we should look at this as a trade in scenario. I like at it as a promotion for HD DVD owners who which to "upgrade" to the Bluray version. There really is not much that would make it a trade in. Just about anyone here can probably scan and reproduce the sleeve or print one off of online sites to put back in the red case.

So here is another question. If there is a small flood of HD DVDs on the market and seeing that they probably would be less than $5, would you pick up even more HD DVDs?:rolleyes: even with photocopied artwork?

I will have to look over and see which WB titles I am missing. May cost me more in the additional storage shelves to hold them. ;)

Like you have never dropped a disk or forgotten to put one back in its case? Most of mine are fine, but the 3M coating is really amazing.
It's not a 3M coating -- Sony was unwilling to pay the fees and so they developed their own. Not as good, but not bad either.

This program is a great offer and even if I don't use it, it's great that Warner is offering it.

That said, I am also torn as to whether or not to do it. So many pro's and con's are going through my head right now.


PROs:

- Get to keep HD DVD discs and cases!
- Get Blu-ray editions pretty cheap!
- Could sell the HD DVDs to make up cost of upgrading.


CONs:

- Don't really need a Blu-ray edition, too.
- Will always be able to watch my HD DVDs anyway.
- Don't ever watch my HD DVDs anyway & having Blu wouldn't change that.
- Have to wait 4-6 weeks (I'm NOT a patient person)
- Lose coverart and although I can always print replacements, that's time and money.
- We aren't 100% sure we get sealed, complete editions (though probably do)
- I always have bad luck with mail-in rebate type stuff like this even though it's not a 'rebate' per-say.


I think it all boils down to a couple of things for me. First of all, I will always be able to watch my HD DVDs in the future given I have a player and never intend on getting rid of it. Secondly, I have only thrown in an HD DVD disc of mine maybe twice in the last 6 months and having the Blu edition wouldn't change this (I don't tend to rewatch movies).

I don't know.. So for me, I think I will pass. Again, I am NOT complaining and I still think it's amazing that Warner is offering this. Nobody would have ever guessed this would happen, especially not now over 1 year after the format has died.

The most tempting to do this with is my HD DVD editions of Ultimate Matrix Collection and Planet Earth. But again, I would just rather not mess with it.

Great offer and I hope to hear great things from those of you who do it! Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind when that happens!

It's not a 3M coating -- Sony was unwilling to pay the fees and so they developed their own. Not as good, but not bad either.

Regardless, that is one thing that I have really noticed on the BDs that I do wish my HD DVDs had. That aside, I am still red first. I just ran into a problem with Twilight on BD for my HTPC. Ended up having to rip and strip the M2TS file. talk about a pain. This BD live stinks. I think I will have to go over the list of WBs that I am missing and see whether I am missing any or want to upgrade any. Have to also think whether it is worth the hassle to upgrade. I wouldn't keep both a blu and a red version. Too much hassle to to try and make $125 (5x25 is what I figure the net is). I am cheap, but I just have the time that I used to.

I thought about buying some off of ebay. One downside is that you never know. you might bid and win an HD DVD and find out the cover is not original. sigh. Not everyone is as honest and forthcoming as I imagine most are on here.

OK, you get a soundtrack upgrade on Transformers, but what do you get with Planet Earth?
An extra copy for $10?

I did this last night for my 6 WB HD-DVD's and I never received a email response back with a shipping label. I emailed them early this morning about it and didn't hear back all day...

I just hope that I can do this with my remaining 15ish Paramount/Universal disks!

I did this last night for my 6 WB HD-DVD's and I never received a email response back with a shipping label. I emailed them early this morning about it and didn't hear back all day...

I just hope that I can do this with my remaining 15ish Paramount/Universal disks!

Some people said they found their email in the junk folder. You check there?

Some people said they found their email in the junk folder. You check there?

I don't see it, can anyone confirm how fast their email arrived?

I received my confirmation email about 15 minutes after I completed the order. It went to my spam folder though.

The email went to my spam folder also. Received it within 10 minutes

Like you have never dropped a disk or forgotten to put one back in its case? Most of mine are fine, but the 3M coating is really amazing.


I can honestly say NO I don't/haven't dropped any of my discs, used them as pizza trays, or attempted to place as many finger prints as possible on them. But I guess it's just me trying to keep my dvds in the best condition possible. Shoot I don't let friends borrow them for that reason. However family members who also have HD or Blu players who understand the cost entailed borrow all the time and the discs come back in perfect condition.

In fact the only problems I've had playing discs was because (A) some Warner movies that did develope the dreaded dvd rot and (B) some Blu's that I had to update the firmware on my player first before they would play (ie; Wall-E and Bond).

Ok other than "Batman Begins", "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines", "I Am Legend" & "2001" which have(or will have) sequels on "Blue" I don't think I would trade-in any of my other HD-DVD's for Blue... Unless I can trade in my 'Discovery Channel' version of 'Planet Earth' for the 'Warner/BBC' version on Blue.

Where is that thread that listed the difference between the releases? At one time the 'HD' versions were always better feature packed..

Too bad they would not do a 'like' upgrade for SD-DVD's...

--David

I'll sit this one out for now....

Besides, I'm still buying HD-DVDs ....I just picked up Taking Lives on Ebay, BattleStar @ Frys and may buy Planet Earth for the right price (upgrade over my SD copy).

Besides lets stop calling this an upgrade as for the most part there is no real differences between the BD and HD-DVD disc.

Do they accept European/UK versions of the WB titles listed on their site? :confused:

I'm maby gonna exchange 9 US HD DVD's via my relatives who live in USA (I live in Finland). And if they accept I could exchange about 10 more euroversions? For example what about the UK BBC Planet Earth? Are the UPC the same on Euro/UK versions than in the USA versions?

Do they accept European/UK versions of the WB titles listed on their site? :confused:

I'm maby gonna exchange 9 US HD DVD's via my relatives who live in USA (I live in Finland). And if they accept I could exchange about 10 more euroversions? For example what about the UK BBC Planet Earth? Are the UPC the same on Euro/UK versions than in the USA versions?

Keep in mind (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong :p) friend not all BDs are region free. In your attempt to switch out your movie you might be getting a movie you can't play on your player,

Keep in mind (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong :p) friend not all BDs are region free. In your attempt to switch out your movie you might be getting a movie you can't play on your player,

All Warner Blu-rays are region-free.

Some New Line Blu-rays are region-coded, but anyway the only New Line HD DVD was Pan's Labyrinth and the Blu-ray for that is region-free as well.

All Warner Blu-rays are region-free.

Some New Line Blu-rays are region-coded, but anyway the only New Line HD DVD was Pan's Labyrinth and the Blu-ray for that is region-free as well.

:D:D I knew someone would correct me....

Forgot to add, good for Warner.

just got this email re: my missing piece of paper from my matrix boxed set:


Hello Chris,

Thank you for contacting Red2Blu!

In the collection is a disk titled "Matrix Revolutions", please remove the artwork from this title and send that in for your exchange in lieu of the page with the UPC.

I hope this information has been helpful

Warm Regards,
Chanda
www.red2blu.com

Is the art work the same for the complete collection vs the ultimate collection for Matrix Revolutions?

I can honestly say NO I don't/haven't dropped any of my discs, used them as pizza trays, or attempted to place as many finger prints as possible on them. But I guess it's just me trying to keep my dvds in the best condition possible. Shoot I don't let friends borrow them for that reason. However family members who also have HD or Blu players who understand the cost entailed borrow all the time and the discs come back in perfect condition.

In fact the only problems I've had playing discs was because (A) some Warner movies that did develope the dreaded dvd rot and (B) some Blu's that I had to update the firmware on my player first before they would play (ie; Wall-E and Bond).


I am sure you didn't mean it that way, but your post came across as if you were talking down from an ivory tower. I am careful with my disks, but accidents to happen. I don't use them as Pizza Trays and I keep an extremely tidy house. I also don't let my friends borrow them for that reason.

I think I have only lost 1 maybe 2 DVDs since 1998 so it is not like I have an epidemic of playability issues.

This is a different subject, but I have had my share of fully scratched up HD DVDs come through the mail from either netflix or blockbuster. I also received a few pretty badly scratched up when Bb had that preowned 4.75 HD DVD blow out sale around christmas. I just have yet to see a BD get scratched. I am sure it will eventually happen, but the stuff is pretty impressive. I understand that the reason they had to it is because the data was so close to the surface as opposed to DVD and HD DVD. I do wish with current DVDs would have that on them though I imagine it would interfere with playback.... of course that would give them a reason to charge more. :)

I put My order in 2 days ago and I still haven't received my Confirmation Email...
How do you like them apples????

Fully agreed and let me add that our HD DVDs are ALL region-free unlike BD (I haven't checked WB releases specifically but bet they are NOT region-free.)

All Warner Blu-rays are region-free.

Good job clearing up any misinformation Grubert.

I am sure you didn't mean it that way, but your post came across as if you were talking down from an ivory tower. I am careful with my disks, but accidents to happen. I don't use them as Pizza Trays and I keep an extremely tidy house. I also don't let my friends borrow them for that reason.


You're correct I really did not mean to sound condescending and if it came across that way I do apoligize. Since you don't let friends borrow your HD/BDs we have much more in common. :D

My thought in this was your view that trading HD to Blu is a step up 'Upgrade' because of the coating aspect. My opinion is this really applies to those who do not take care of their movies. If we were to do a survey at least on AVS on how people handle their discs I would be very surprised if many insisted they had to have ones with the special coat. I'm not saying it's not useful, rather if you have invested enough in HD equipment and movies I think you're probably a good steward of your investment and so the coating was not a need. I agree though if you are buying used then the coating would be an asset.

What's kind of funny though bjmarchini in a way you really kind of agreed with me. Sounds like you're not real happy getting rental discs that someone before you didn't have the common courtesy of handling better than they did.

I agree though if you are buying used then the coating would be an asset.
Or selling them. I would rather not buy used HD DVDs just for that reason. I would imagine the resale value of BD would be higher just because of this "worthless" feature.

Or selling them. I would rather not buy used HD DVDs just for that reason. I would imagine the resale value of BD would be higher just because of this "worthless" feature.

I'll have to look back at what I posted but I don't think I posted the coating worthless. Rather the point in all of this I was trying to make and poorly I might add was....it was suggested a good reason to trade in our HD dvds is because the blus have the coating. My argument still remains the same that if you are a collector of HD dvds you probably take care of them and thus do not need to supposedly upgrade because of the coating. The argument that your player may die is absolutely legit.

Other than that I am quite happy BDs have the coating. I an not anti blu otherwise I would not have two stand alone players of my own and purchased an additional two as Christmas gifts for my sons.

was just reading on slickdeals & some ppl over there - & I'll say this gently : scammers - actually think they can print out cover art & replace them in the box.
Then peddle it off to the unsuspecting non-hobbyist ('twits' as they phrase it).

The way they are unloading these HD, there will be a glut & no1 - esp the hobbyists - will touch them IMO.
& if BR has truly won then the Non-Hobbyist will not touch them either.

Since it seems I've kind of stirred a hornets nest here was my original post and comment about the blu coating.

Originally Posted by RWB
It is interesting to read some of the different opinions being placed not only in this forum but the blu side as well. What I can't figure out is some folks excitement that they're trading for something with the magic coating since apparently HD dvds scratch easily.

If someone is letting their dvds no matter what format get scratched that easy (not counting buying already used) they need to get out of this hobby anyway.

Once again I really meant this in reference to those who do NOT take care of the dvds in their possession especially rentals. That means they have no respect for the company or lender or the next guy that just might want to watch the movie without it freezing up. Shoot I even clean my rentals before I play and return them.

See I swear I am not a blu hater. :)

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/weewoo87/100_0247.jpg

I'll have to look back at what I posted but I don't think I posted the coating worthless. Rather the point in all of this I was trying to make was....it was suggested a good reason to trade in our HD dvds is because the blus have the coating. My argument still remains the same that if you are a collector of HD dvds you probably take care of them and thus do not need to supposedly upgrade because of the coating. The argument that your player may die is absolutely legit.

Other than that I am quite happy BDs have the coating. I an not anti blu otherwise I would not have two stand alone players of my own and purchased an additional two as Christmas gifts for my sons.
Did not mean to imply you said "worthless" by putting quotation marks, rather it was a sarcastic rebuttal to your poo-pooing of this "upgrade" feature :p

And I still contend that although you may not "need" this feature, it does have a value if you ever decide to sell your BD :D

You're correct I really did not mean to sound condescending and if it came across that way I do apoligize. Since you don't let friends borrow your HD/BDs we have much more in common. :D

My thought in this was your view that trading HD to Blu is a step up 'Upgrade' because of the coating aspect. My opinion is this really applies to those who do not take care of their movies. If we were to do a survey at least on AVS on how people handle their discs I would be very surprised if many insisted they had to have ones with the special coat. I'm not saying it's not useful, rather if you have invested enough in HD equipment and movies I think you're probably a good steward of your investment and so the coating was not a need. I agree though if you are buying used then the coating would be an asset.

What's kind of funny though bjmarchini in a way you really kind of agreed with me. Sounds like you're not real happy getting rental discs that someone before you didn't have the common courtesy of handling better than they did.

I do agree with that. I have bought any more HD DVDs from blockbuster online because of that. On the other hand, I have startedd buying preowned from my local blockbuster as they just don't seem to scratch. Mostly for newer releases that you can't get a deal on yet. For instance, I picked up TDK for $17 plus $1 for the case as I had to swap out their DVD case for the BD case. They had the artwork in there. Though I don't really count the $1 as much as I could probably use a few extra DVD cases anyway for home movies.

It is pretty pretty depressing that $17 is a good deal after paying so little for so long for HD DVDs. The price has really curtailed my HD buying. I was buying like a bandit once the titles that I wanted went under $15.

After thinking it over, I think I am going to hold off. I will look over any of those scratched rentals that I got from Bb and see if they were mawled at all and maybe trade those in. I have two SA players, 2 HD DVD drives and two software players for them. Worste case scenario, I guess I can just rip them and keep them on a hard drive I guess or convert them to BD.

I thought about the portablity aspect some more. It is a no go for me in actuality. I don't want to come across as an HD snob, but when you get used to watching your HD material in surround sound 9 feet away from a 96" HD projection system, watching a movie 13 feet away on their 62" 720p DLP projection TV with built in speakers and my sister talking in the background just kills the experience for me. I made the mistake of watching Mr and Mrs Smith over there Easter weekend and regretted it as I didn't realize it was actually a pretty good movie..... I almost feel like I lost out on the experience. I imagine most folks wouldn't understand except my fellow movie lovers here. sigh. Sad part is I have finally started to understand why people on here don't go to the theater too much.... There were way to many talkers when I went to see The Watchmen and the viewing radius ended up actually being smaller.




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You have too many Sony products in that rack. As a anti-Sony faboy, I am appalled. :D

Interesting that you have your projector on the bottom. You don't see that too much. I put mine on the ceiling, but did consider the coffee table mounting.

Yeah I know Sony leaves something to be desired sometimes. What's a killer is I bought my sons Panny blus for Christmas with great load speeds and I'm still stuck with my 2nd generation 300s. Yep I was purple even though I did lean the Tosh way back then.

Couldn't help myself on the Sony 820 receiver because of the CC big box store going out of business sale. Was looking at the Onkyos but this popped up brand new during their last week and I couldn't pass on the TrueHD decoding when it was $150 less than it was even selling on-line.

My ceilings are low and my projector is DLP making placement very tricky. Could've went ceiling and the keystone route, but it just didn't make sense to be using blu and red players for the best possible picture and then turn around and soften it using keystoning.

Can be a pain sometimes if someone really needs to get up and walk in front of the projector. But I figure what the heck it's no different then what you get at the local cineplex, you can always rewind, and usually folks have enough snacks in hand they don't get up while the movie is playing.

The advantage to the table placement was it's easy to get to and easy to clean the lens. Has a sealed light engine so I don't have to worry about any dust blobs getting in there.

Is the art work the same for the complete collection vs the ultimate collection for Matrix Revolutions?
That's the million dollar question, isn't it? I have the Ultimate collection, here's a scan for comparison.

http://home.comcast.net/~reeandtodd/MatrixRev_small.JPG

Full Size (http://home.comcast.net/~reeandtodd/MatrixRev_ULTIMATE.JPG)

I do hope this gets extended to Canada. I'd be willing to trade in some of my Warner's, especially if there is an upgrade or extras involved. I'm one of those who has audio sync issues with my HD DVD Ultimate Matrix set, and the bonus of getting the Animatrix in HD is worth it. I'd likely send for Casablanca too. I'm not sure if I'd bother for other titles that don't offer anything different, though, like Batman Begins.

I'm in no rush to offload my HD DVD collection. I just bought three more last week at the great sale that Zeller's (Canada) is having (from $4.99-6.99). For that matter, I'm still buying the odd laserdisc, too! But if I can get an upgrade, audio problem correction, or more bonus features, then I'm definitely into this.

Warner, hurry up with the Canadian web page for this offer!

Sorry, for those of you also in the BD discussion forum, this is a cut and paste post, but I think this discussion makes most sense in the HD DVD area.

Do they accept European/UK versions of the WB titles listed on their site? :confused:

I'm maby gonna exchange 9 US HD DVD's via my relatives who live in USA (I live in Finland). And if they accept I could exchange about 10 more euroversions? For example what about the UK BBC Planet Earth? Are the UPC the same on Euro/UK versions than in the USA versions? I asked whether I could send titles I bought from outside the US and they said it was fine.

This is a different subject, but I have had my share of fully scratched up HD DVDs come through the mail from either netflix or blockbuster. I also received a few pretty badly scratched up when Bb had that preowned 4.75 HD DVD blow out sale around christmas. I just have yet to see a BD get scratched. I am sure it will eventually happen, but the stuff is pretty impressive.

Rental BD's get damaged. The coating will accept some abuse, but it has limitations.

Other than that I am quite happy BDs have the coating. I an not anti blu otherwise I would not have two stand alone players of my own and purchased an additional two as Christmas gifts for my sons.
I have two BD players and the coating doesn't count in my evaluation of whether a BD is an "upgrade" over an HD DVD. Only a better sound track or better video qualifies as an upgrade to me (as long as neither is a step down at the same time, that is :)).

On the other hand, the coating does count in my eagerness to buy used. However, all the HD DVD I bought from the online BlockBuster sale were scratched to varying degrees, and all play fine -- so I'm MUCH happier receiving a scratched HD DVD than a scratched BD :(! With BD, it's normally fatal!

When I add the Ultimate Matrix Collection to the shopping cart, it's listed at $19.95 rather than $14.95.

Any one else notice this?

Bob

i posted this in the thread in the bluray forum but i guess i should also post it here...

i asked about the non-combo 300 and the complete matrix trilogy and just got an email back

Thank you for your interest in Warner Bros.Unfortunately, for the copy of 300, we would need the cover art with UPC code in order to do an exchange.
The FAQs for the Matrix are as follows:

The Complete Matrix Trilogy (on HD-DVD) can be upgraded to The Ultimate Matrix Collection (on Blu-ray).
Simply complete your transaction online as if you have The Ultimate Matrix Collection.

When I add the Ultimate Matrix Collection to the shopping cart, it's listed at $19.95 rather than $14.95.

Any one else notice this?

Bob
I just called customer service and they see the same thing. They're investigating.

When I add the Ultimate Matrix Collection to the shopping cart, it's listed at $19.95 rather than $14.95.

Any one else notice this?

Bob

I just noticed the same increase for HP 1-5 when you go to checkout.

When I add the Ultimate Matrix Collection to the shopping cart, it's listed at $19.95 rather than $14.95.

Any one else notice this?

Bob


Planet Earth also jumps from $9.95 to $14.95

I don't see it, can anyone confirm how fast their email arrived?

I never got a email either, so I call them and they told me it could be up to 72hrs.

When I add the Ultimate Matrix Collection to the shopping cart, it's listed at $19.95 rather than $14.95.

Any one else notice this?

Bob

According to the Blu-ray thread, WB has raised some prices. I guess they realized the deal was a little too good! :rolleyes:

the official word is it's a glitch and they are trying to fix it

i was assured they are not raising the prices

According to the Blu-ray thread, WB has raised some prices. I guess they realized the deal was a little too good! :rolleyes:


That's why I grabbed Matrix Ultimate and Casablanca SE immediately, before Warners did something like rise the prices or substituted a regular Casablanca for the Special Edition.

Hi,

Thank you for your interest in Warner Bros.

The Complete Matrix Trilogy (on HD-DVD) can be upgraded to The Ultimate Matrix Collection (on Blu-ray). Simply complete your transaction online as if you have The Ultimate Matrix Collection. There is a disc in the Matrix Trilogy set called “Matrix Revolutions”. You need to remove the artwork from the Matrix Revolutions and send that for their exchange in lieu of the page with the UPC code.

Yes, you will receive the Blu-Ray as if you purchased it from a retail store. However, you do not receive the cover art back that you sent in.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

Regards,

Casey
www.red2blu.com
1-866-276-6176

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The UPC on my Matrix Revolutions does not match the UPC from the scan posted above in this thread. I still have the paper from the back of the box. Can you still send the paper, or does it have to be the Matrix Revolutions artwork? Seems like if they allow both, some people will be able to do two "trade-ins" on the trilogy and a third on the first movie.

EDIT: I just noticed they updated the instructions on the front page to list Ultimate Matrix Collection or Complete Matrix Trilogy. Instructions have also been updated and no longer mention the paper from the back of the box, but only the Revolutions artwork.

I just went throught the specs of all Warner HD-DVD's I own.

The only upgrade is the Soprano's Season 6 Part 1. The HD-DVD is DD+ while the Blu-ray is PCM.

The Fugitive was a downgrade. Depending which version of the blu-ray they send, it either drops to 448 Dolby Digital, or MPEG-2 compression.

Phantom of the Opera is a downgrade, as the blu-ray looses the TrueHD soundtrack.

Casablanca is an upgrade in special features only.

The Matrix is a mixed bag. I would get to go from the Complete Trilogy on HD-DVD to the Ultimate Collection on blu-ray. This is huge upgrade in special features. Matrix Revolutions is a downgrade, due to the glitch on the blu-ray.

Everything else is pretty much a side-grade.

EDIT: Also just noticed the note on the page confirming that Planet Earth is the BBC version.

That's the million dollar question, isn't it? I have the Ultimate collection, here's a scan for comparison.

http://home.comcast.net/~reeandtodd/MatrixRev_small.JPG

Full Size (http://home.comcast.net/~reeandtodd/MatrixRev_ULTIMATE.JPG)

Bummer the regular Trilogy edition is copy 115977A on the spine which differs from the ultimate edition which is what they will be looking for... Sorry guys and gals no free meals on this one.

Isn't the Animatrix disc on the Blu-Ray in HD? It's not on red.

Hi,

Thank you for your interest in Warner Bros.

The Complete Matrix Trilogy (on HD-DVD) can be upgraded to The Ultimate Matrix Collection (on Blu-ray). Simply complete your transaction online as if you have The Ultimate Matrix Collection. There is a disc in the Matrix Trilogy set called “Matrix Revolutions”. You need to remove the artwork from the Matrix Revolutions and send that for their exchange in lieu of the page with the UPC code.

Yes, you will receive the Blu-Ray as if you purchased it from a retail store. However, you do not receive the cover art back that you sent in.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

Regards,

Casey
www.red2blu.com
1-866-276-6176

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The UPC on my Matrix Revolutions does not match the UPC from the scan posted above in this thread. I still have the paper from the back of the box. Can you still send the paper, or does it have to be the Matrix Revolutions artwork? Seems like if they allow both, some people will be able to do two "trade-ins" on the trilogy and a third on the first movie.

EDIT: I just noticed they updated the instructions on the front page to list Ultimate Matrix Collection or Complete Matrix Trilogy. Instructions have also been updated and no longer mention the paper from the back of the box, but only the Revolutions artwork.

I just went throught the specs of all Warner HD-DVD's I own.

The only upgrade is the Soprano's Season 6 Part 1. The HD-DVD is DD+ while the Blu-ray is PCM.

The Fugitive was a downgrade. Depending which version of the blu-ray they send, it either drops to 448 Dolby Digital, or MPEG-2 compression.

Phantom of the Opera is a downgrade, as the blu-ray looses the TrueHD soundtrack.

Casablanca is an upgrade in special features only.

The Matrix is a mixed bag. I would get to go from the Complete Trilogy on HD-DVD to the Ultimate Collection on blu-ray. This is huge upgrade in special features. Matrix Revolutions is a downgrade, due to the glitch on the blu-ray.

Everything else is pretty much a side-grade.

EDIT: Also just noticed the note on the page confirming that Planet Earth is the BBC version.

It doesn't look like planet earth is listed any more. Bummer.

A CSR just called me to tell me to send the flattened box from the Oceans set with the UPC code on it. My box does not have the UPC on it anywhere. Anyone else have this issue? She said she would check on it and get back to me on Monday.

She also said that the Matrix set has gone up in price.

since i was told over the phone that the price "glitch" was going to be fixed and it would be $4.95 for casablanca and $14.95 for the matrix i will be demanding they give me that price

the exact words the guy said to me was "we aren't jacking up the prices"

Well now it appears as if the "glitch" has turned into a price increase.

Looks like two titles are missing from yesterday. Apparently one is Planet Earth, not sure of the other (there were 128 titles yesterday and 126 today). Also, it now appears either Matrix set is OK.

I decided not to trade in any. I figure this will only drive the Blu prices on the listed titles even lower, and many can be had for $10 now. With this, they will likely hit $5-6 anyway. That would be the same cost as the "trade". Just my $0.02...

Looks like two titles are missing from yesterday. Apparently one is Planet Earth, not sure of the other (there were 128 titles yesterday and 126 today).

The other one was Galapagos (BBC) :mad:

I'm not shelling out any money for another format since I don't have a Blu-ray player in the first place. I probably have close to a 100 HD DVD. I'll buy the standard DVD if needed.

I'm not shelling out any money for another format since I don't have a Blu-ray player in the first place. I probably have close to a 100 HD DVD. I'll buy the standard DVD if needed.




Oh your that guy:p

I thought most would crumble under the pressure once WB had thrown in the HD DVD towel, guess not:)

Good for you.

Djoel

I wonder if Planet Earth was removed due to the different versions of narration. I may be in the minority, but I prefer the Sigourney Weaver one. When I sent a note to ask, they said I would get the same. But maybe they could guarantee it, and so instead just figured it would be best to not offer it.

I wonder if Planet Earth was removed due to the different versions of narration. I may be in the minority, but I prefer the Sigourney Weaver one. When I sent a note to ask, they said I would get the same. But maybe they could guarantee it, and so instead just figured it would be best to not offer it.

That might be one reason, not to mention the MSRP is $99. :rolleyes:

Honestly I had about 70 HD DVDs, but I'm doing this trade-in for about 20 of them and selling the rest. I was thinking of holding out for more trade-in programs, but I get glitches with a lot of HD DVDs or they won't play (BH200) and I don't want to play the "find a working player on ebay" game, or have backups. Also, a big reason is I got so many movies for cheap just because they were cheap. I watch them once and I don't really have any intention of watching them again. I will not rebuy about 30 or so of titles I had.

Warner does state on their pdf that they can change the terms of the deal whenever and without warning. So, the price hikes will probably stand, but you get more in some cases (Casablanca collector's set). It's still a decent deal and you can make your money back by selling the HD DVDs.

If I ONLY had HD DVDs like some in this thread, well I'd just keep them obviously. But I have about 50 Blu-rays right now plus now 20 more on the way and a few more I'm going to order soon.

I looked at this a couple days ago and decided to do it today. Now, like others, I've noticed that Planet Earth and Galapogos are no longer offered. I've emailed customer service to find out what's going on.

Went to finally order this AM and find Planet Earth sold out - the one I really wanted to exchange. Emailed and called about the issue. Was told I will get a call back. Let's see. Should have ordered last week when the deal first came out. The rep said it was some sort of confusion over versions, but I think they realized what a loss leader that exchange would be.

Wonder if those who successfully placed the order for Planet Earth will actually get it - please let us know if you do.

With ppl dumping there HD in vast quantity, who in their right mind would buy, coverless or home printed covered.

Where are the buyers going to come from & what prices are they willing to spend?

I know I won't be buying used home made HD.

That might be one reason, not to mention the MSRP is $99. :rolleyes:

I too think this is the reason Planet Earth was pulled, but then I see Harry Potter and Matrix sets still available....not sure what to make of it. I really wanted to exchange Planet Earth and am really PO'd about this. I ordered the rest in case they change their mind on Harry Potter!

With ppl dumping there HD in vast quantity, who in their right mind would buy, coverless or home printed covered.

Where are the buyers going to come from & what prices are they willing to spend?

I know I won't be buying used home made HD.

i lost count of how many DVDs i've bought that were in a paper sleeve or a jewel case because the person kept them in a CD binder and lost (or even threw away) the case

the important thing is the disc works... printed covers can look just as good or even better than the originals if you have even a half decent printer and good paper

I did decide to take advantage of this on the titles that were actually upgrades for me. I only have the Matrix Collection and this gets me the Ultimate Collection, Casablanca gets me the Collector's Edition and Full Metal Jacket gets me the upgraded version (I only have the original HD DVD release with the white cover).

Other than that, I can't see the value.

Hmmm, when I did my upgrade for Ultimate Matrix... they told me to turn in the glued on slip sheet on the back. Now it says the Matrix Revolutions slip.

Dang it... Did I screw up? I just mailed in the back slip

Just got a call back from a rep at the WB store - they stated that the BD of Planet Earth is being discontinued so they removed it from the Red2Blu offer. Existing orders will supposedly be honored. Take it for what it is worth.

Just got a call back from a rep at the WB store - they stated that the BD of Planet Earth is being discontinued so they removed it from the Red2Blu offer. Existing orders will supposedly be honored. Take it for what it is worth.

Could be, but our local walmart just got a bunch of the single show discs of PE in, so that wouldn't seem to jive with what they told you.... who knows.



I won't be sending my HD's in, heck, I just bought some more today at our local Kroger, which got some more blowout combo discs in. I am dual format, and I think that both formats look pretty much equivalent to me as far as quality goes, although I know some would take one side or the other. However, if I can buy the HD-DVD for what I can buy the standard one at walmart for, why would I not continue to buy HD-DVD's? It's not like my 3 players are going to just up and quit working.....

Hmmm, when I did my upgrade for Ultimate Matrix... they told me to turn in the glued on slip sheet on the back. Now it says the Matrix Revolutions slip.

Dang it... Did I screw up? I just mailed in the back slip


They started accepting the Revolutions slip because lots of people threw away the back sheet of the box. Don't worry, they are accepting either as proof of purchase.

Fairly interesting take on the promotion.


http://www.betanews.com/article/Warners-5-HD-DVD-to-Bluray-tradein-Bargain-or-scam/1240442493

Fairly interesting take on the promotion.


http://www.betanews.com/article/Warners-5-HD-DVD-to-Bluray-tradein-Bargain-or-scam/1240442493

AND..........................................some people would complain about getting hung with a new rope! It is what it is............you wanna blu copy for $5? Go For It!! You don't...........DON'T!! :)

AND..........................................some people would complain about getting hung with a new rope! It is what it is............you wanna blu copy for $5? Go For It!! You don't...........DON'T!! :)

Ya lol... I'm all over it and I'm ecstatic about it.

Hmmm, when I did my upgrade for Ultimate Matrix... they told me to turn in the glued on slip sheet on the back. Now it says the Matrix Revolutions slip.

Dang it... Did I screw up? I just mailed in the back slip
Geez! People, please read the words! If you don't have the box back slip sheet, then the Matrix Revolutions cover sheet will suffice. All you have to do is read -- no wonder Blu won :(!

I want to say that its a better encode and it has a lot of new bonus materials. I could be wrong, but the BD retails for like $60.

That sounds interesting - I'm a big fan of my fellow countryman CurtiZ (we came from the same place - just like CurtiS' family, heh.:))
Thanks I'll take a look... however I still don't really see why they are advertising ~$15 for Matrix Ultimate when it's $22 shipped???
This is typical cheap, low-life tactics, even Chinatown doesn't use it anymore...:(

That sounds interesting - I'm a big fan of my fellow countryman CurtiZ (we came from the same place - just like CurtiS' family, heh.:))
Thanks I'll take a look... however I still don't really see why they are advertising ~$15 for Matrix Ultimate when it's $22 shipped???
This is typical cheap, low-life tactics, even Chinatown doesn't use it anymore...:(

$6.95 processing fee for every order, as it says on the same page. Order more discs, the processing fee doesn't change.

Put in my order last night for ten discs (six of which are part of trilogies). It's a shame Planet Earth got pulled; I had originally picked up the HD DVD version on clearance for $30. On the other hand though, nice to see they sorted out the Matrix trilogy Complete/Ultimate collection discrepancy. I made color copies of the artwork just to keep for myself.

I filled out the request form on their website on Sunday.

For those of you who already went through the process, how long did it take before you received the email reply with the mailing label?

I asked whether I could send titles I bought from outside the US and they said it was fine.So you sent your imported titles to them? Or have someone else sent or asked them about imported titles?

I filled out the request form on their website on Sunday.

For those of you who already went through the process, how long did it take before you received the email reply with the mailing label?

I put in an order last Wednesday and still haven't gotten an email. I called their support on Saturday and they said my order is in the system, they just haven't processed it yet. I was told that I would be sent a confirmation when they finished processing it and made a shipping label.

Don't know what's taking so long. If it doesn't come soon they'll be getting another call.

I put in an order last Wednesday and still haven't gotten an email. I called their support on Saturday and they said my order is in the system, they just haven't processed it yet. I was told that I would be sent a confirmation when they finished processing it and made a shipping label.

Don't know what's taking so long. If it doesn't come soon they'll be getting another call.

I did mine on Saturday or Sunday and got my confirmation email the same day with my shipping label and shipped them out on Monday after making copies.

I sent mine in on a Wednesday. Didn't get anything so I called them Monday and it arrived in my box on Tuesday. I shipped today. I tried telling the lady I was talking to that a lot of people are saying that its dropping in their junk mail box and that some spam systems may even delete and the girl had no concept what I was saying and referred me to the fine print that said something about something else... I told her to make a note of what I told her so she could tell her it people... oh well.

Ordered 14 discs yesterday and got the confirmation e-mail in 10 minutes. Went to Office Max this afternoon and made color copies of the covers for 49 cents each (Kinkos refused to do it for me) and mailed everything off. I am suprised how well the color copies look. I am still up in the air on what to do- sell the Blu-ray versions and make a small profit, or bundle the hd-dvds (with the copied covers) with one of my Toshiba HD-DVD players and sell them on craigslist.

HOWELL, MI, US
Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:09:00 AM
Arrival at Unit

:D

This is for Planet Earth, Bonnie and Clyde, and Casablanca

Ordered 14 discs yesterday and got the confirmation e-mail in 10 minutes. Went to Office Max this afternoon and made color copies of the covers for 49 cents each (Kinkos refused to do it for me) and mailed everything off. I am suprised how well the color copies look. I am still up in the air on what to do- sell the Blu-ray versions and make a small profit, or bundle the hd-dvds (with the copied covers) with one of my Toshiba HD-DVD players and sell them on craigslist.

Logically with all things taken in... I would suggest you get rid of the hd-dvd's as soon as possible... after all, its been dead for 1.5 years now :)

Well, I have that piece of paper form the back of my Ultimate set so I will send that in - this is what first they asked after all...

Who cares if HD DVD is dead. I have three players that will probably last 10+ years (15-20 if I don't over work each unit). By then, there will certatinly be a new a better format so I'll switch then. The difference between HD DVD and BD are very minute (except if you're an audio purist really have to have DTS MA HD over DD+).

Hence I'm keeping my player and disc. The only trade-in I might do is the Matrix Trilogy (Complete for Ultimate) as that would be an upgrade to get the Anamatrix in HD. Otherwise I see this as kinda of a waste of money...rather buy a new BD instead.

Paid for WB's movies in HD once. Players and discs work fine. Sorry, WB isn't getting anymore of my money.

Some prudent strategies there ^^^ & replace them with something else when they are worn out.
The reinvestment expenditure doesn't really make sense for most.

For the folks who have already mailed off the paper slips to WB, I have a question.

Did you put any other identifying info into your packet or just the slips? When you printed out the mailing label, it comes with a separate label that says "MERCHANDISE RETURN MAILING ACKNOWLEDGMENT". Above it, it says "Online e-Label Record".

What is this and what did you do with it?

I sent in a few. Matrix, Ocean's Set, 2001, Polar Express, and National Lampoons. I watch these at least once a year so I thought it would be good to have a backup and I can then lend them to friends as well.

I sent in a few. Matrix, Ocean's Set, 2001, Polar Express, and National Lampoons. I watch these at least once a year so I thought it would be good to have a backup and I can then lend them to friends as well.

and when you think about it the matrix is an upgrade (well... once they get a replacement program setup for revolutions) and polar express might possibly be an upgrade (i don't think anyone has heard back on if they get the 3D version or not)

Paid for WB's movies in HD once. Players and discs work fine. Sorry, WB isn't getting anymore of my money.Ahh, a voice of reason.

Ahh, a voice of reason.

For who? People with your opinions? I have 150 Blu's now and hope to have 0 HD-DVD's and 175 Blu's soon.

For who? People with your opinions? I have 150 Blu's now and hope to have 0 HD-DVD's and 175 Blu's soon.



Do you want a Brownie button?
For many including myself the upgrade isn't worth it because you aren't getting a better picture with BD,when our player dies we can rent them.
If Warner would only charge for shipping then I would go for it.

Do you want a Brownie button?
For many including myself the upgrade isn't worth it because you aren't getting a better picture with BD,when our player dies we can rent them.
If Warner would only charge for shipping then I would go for it.

Do you want a cookie now?
Thank you for confirming what I just said. I really don't care about your opinion, I want my blu's and I don't care what you think about it and don't make the claim that its irrational and you and a few other fellas should stop tucking under the table the obvious sound format differences. Some of us have home theaters that it matters on.

I wished that Universal would do a like program... but they could limit theirs to only movies which have sequels on HD-DVD's such as:
Hulk, Fast & Furious, Mummy+Scorpion King <-is there one or two I am missing?

or it might be cheaper for Universal to release HD-DVD versions of the Four disc's as HD-DVD versions than do a trade program?

--David

Do you want a cookie now?
Thank you for confirming what I just said. I really don't care about your opinion, I want my blu's and I don't care what you think about it and don't make the claim that its irrational and you and a few other fellas should stop tucking under the table the obvious sound format differences. Some of us have home theaters that it matters on.Uhm, what "obvious sound format differences"? Even if you believe in "lossless", very few (or none?) of the discs in the Red2Blu program have a superior sound format compared to their HD-DVD counterparts. Some actually are inferior in terms of audio (e.g. Happy Feet) or extras (e.g. 300).

Some of us have home theaters that it matters on.

And what exactly are the differences?Both formats have 1080p and HD audio.
If you want to brag about your HT system and BD collection then do it in the Blu-ray forum.

I know there are a few blu-rays (like the Matrix movies) that are encoded at a slightly higher bitrate then HD-DVD. You can easily sell the HD-DVDs for $5.00 each- so essentially for $6.95 you can update your discs to a current format. That is how I look at it.

i lost count of how many DVDs i've bought that were in a paper sleeve or a jewel case because the person kept them in a CD binder and lost (or even threw away) the case

the important thing is the disc works... printed covers can look just as good or even better than the originals if you have even a half decent printer and good paper

Plus, you know the case is in good condition if you buy your own. I have been picking up some pre-owned blurays at Bb and putting them in BD cases that I bought off ebay/amazon. They cost me less than $1 and they are brand new.

Who cares if HD DVD is dead. I have three players that will probably last 10+ years (15-20 if I don't over work each unit). By then, there will certatinly be a new a better format so I'll switch then. The difference between HD DVD and BD are very minute (except if you're an audio purist really have to have DTS MA HD over DD+).

Hence I'm keeping my player and disc. The only trade-in I might do is the Matrix Trilogy (Complete for Ultimate) as that would be an upgrade to get the Anamatrix in HD. Otherwise I see this as kinda of a waste of money...rather buy a new BD instead.

One thing that would concern me is compatibility. They didn't have DVD players with HDMI out in 1998 when DVD came out. I am sure BD players in 6-10 years will have some type of improvements over even the DV-HD805 that I own.

I know there are a few blu-rays (like the Matrix movies) that are encoded at a slightly higher bitrate then HD-DVD.The Matrix movies use exactly the same encoding as their HD-DVD counterparts (still the BD Ultimate boxset has the advantage of including the Animatrix in HD, which is not available as HD-DVD). Also, Matrix Revolutions has a video glitch on BD that is not present on HD-DVD.

To my knowledge all Warner titles that are available on both formats use the same video encoding. Audio is usually equal and in some cases better on HD-DVD.
You can easily sell the HD-DVDs for $5.00 each- so essentially for $6.95 you can update your discs to a current format.That is a valid reason (if you can still get that much at a time when Inetvideo is selling HD-DVDs new for $1.99), but it is more a sidegrade rather than an upgrade. :)

The Matrix movies use exactly the same encoding as their HD-DVD counterparts (still the BD Ultimate boxset has the advantage of including the Animatrix in HD, which is not available as HD-DVD). Also, Matrix Revolutions has a video glitch on BD that is not present on HD-DVD.

To my knowledge all Warner titles that are available on both formats use the same video encoding. Audio is usually equal and in some cases better on HD-DVD.

It's definitely not better on The Last Samurai (or was it Phantom of the Opera?). The HD DVD's audio was encoded about 10dB too low.

Also, Matrix Revolutions has a video glitch on BD that is not present on HD-DVD.
What exactly is the glitch?

What exactly is the glitch?http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1082377

The site is now down to 122 titles, losing 4 today. I think they must have limited reserved stock for this offer, and when they run out of a title - they take it off.

So much for this lasting. So they are not producing these titles anymore on BD or something? :)

I am glad I waited. I am just going to hold off. We will probably be able to buy most of these for $5-$10 on BD in 6+ years anyway.

I thought about this some more today (need to get a life) and here is my newest "reason" for not upgrading. My HD DVDs work fine for me for reasons I stated earlier.. infact probably better than their Bd equivalent. My new reasoning is this: If there were two formats for DVD to the extent there was for HDM, would I look at it as a bargain now if in 2000 I was able to trade in my OVD (other video disc) for the DVD version for $5 each when I can pretty much rebuy them now on DVD for less than $5 on places like amazon and such? This $5 rebuy is only worthwhile IF BD prices stay in the $15+ mark for those titles for another 8 years... which we all know they won't. Future Special editions alone will drive down their price.

Still nice of them though... I (and I think many other posters on here) am trying to justify saving $125+ dollars. Every dollar counts in our economy. I know I call my cable every month to chizel them out of $15 per month which really isn't all that much either.

got an email back about Polar Express

I checked the two different versions, and it doesn't appear that it's going to be the 3D version, as that's not what's displayed on our webpage. At some time in the future, it may be offered, however it's not offered at this time.

If you want to brag about your HT system and BD collection then do it in the Blu-ray forum.Thanks; thought I was in the BD forum for a minute there. While I do own a few BDs, I just won't give the Warner weasels the satisfaction of upgrading (plus the hassle of pandering off the old dupes). I actually don't mind having cases of both colors on my shelf.

That is a valid reason (if you can still get that much at a time when Inetvideo is selling HD-DVDs new for $1.99), but it is more a sidegrade rather than an upgrade. :)Wow, thanks for the tip -- I just ordered a bunch!

$1.99 is less than the local video chain charges for 2-night SDVD rentals.

Wow, this is a really nice offer from WB, but....

1. I hate Sony
2. I hate Sony
3. I don't want to rebuy videos I already own, even if they are cheap.

I'll be sticking with DVD and HD-DVD for a good while longer thanks.

sony is not the BDA and the BDA is not sony

Wow, this is a really nice offer from WB, but....

1. I hate Sony
2. I hate Sony
3. I don't want to rebuy videos I already own, even if they are cheap.

I'll be sticking with DVD and HD-DVD for a good while longer thanks.

Ummmm Sony does not equal Bluray. I have an LG Bluray and many non sony titles.

The site is now down to 122 titles, losing 4 today. I think they must have limited reserved stock for this offer, and when they run out of a title - they take it off.

Two out of the four were the Sopranos sets.

Without Planet Earth and the Sopranos, I don't know if this deal is worth it to me.

I know there are a few blu-rays (like the Matrix movies) that are encoded at a slightly higher bitrate then HD-DVD. You can easily sell the HD-DVDs for $5.00 each- so essentially for $6.95 you can update your discs to a current format. That is how I look at it.

Nice try but hidef digest already reviewed both editions and conclusion is that there is no difference.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/300/matrix_umc.html

It's definitely not better on The Last Samurai (or was it Phantom of the Opera?). The HD DVD's audio was encoded about 10dB too low.

Phantom of the Opera BD version doesn't have TrueHD audio just DD+. The same goes for Superman Returns.

For who? People with your opinions? I have 150 Blu's now and hope to have 0 HD-DVD's and 175 Blu's soon.

You are voice of insanity.

Phantom of the Opera BD version doesn't have TrueHD audio just DD+. The same goes for Superman Returns.
Just a clarification - Superman Returns on BD has TrueHD audio.

Just a clarification - Superman Returns on BD has TrueHD audio.Actually, there are two versions on BD: One was released in 2006 and has no TrueHD. The other was released in late 2008 and has TrueHD and PCM. The version without TrueHD is still prevalent in stores, so you have to check carefully when buying one.

but the version WB is shipping as part of the red2blu program is supposedly the truehd version

Nice try but hidef digest already reviewed both editions and conclusion is that there is no difference.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/300/matrix_umc.html



Phantom of the Opera BD version doesn't have TrueHD audio just DD+. The same goes for Superman Returns.



You are voice of insanity.

Pardon me- I was going from memory. I swear I read when the BD versions of the Matrix movies came out they determined they had a slightly higher bitrate then the HD-DVD versions.

I still stand by what I said. It was nice that WB is even giving us the opportunity to do this. As much as I liked HD-DVD (I still do like it better then BD) you have to suck it up and admit it failed. I am jumping at the opportunity to exchange the discs to a format that will have a longer future. How lmuch longer- who knows- but at least I have some discs that I can let friends borrow or exchange now. Most of my friends waited to see what happened with the HD format wars before they bought players last X-mas.

the bitrate wasn't higher... the total size of everything on the disc was larger but that was because of the extra bonus content which on the hd dvd ultimate collection was put on the DVD side of the disc

I guess I need to figure out what 25 movies I will pull the inserts from to do a trade.

I decided Collectors Matrix for Ultimate and Blade Runner.

Is the BD of Blade Runner different from the HD DVD?

Well I decided to not send in the money and instead bought over the weekend some HDs and BDs I didn't already have.

Is the BD of Blade Runner different from the HD DVD?

other than the discs themselves being a different format.... no

same encodes, same bonus features, same everything

Two out of the four were the Sopranos sets.

Without Planet Earth and the Sopranos, I don't know if this deal is worth it to me.

I just got off the phone with customer service. After noticing that the Sopranos box sets had been pulled form the site, i gave them a call to see if they would still honor the replacement. I had placed my order last week when the sets were still listed but i had not yet sent the artwork. The customer service rep informed me that the title had been pulled from the offer and instructed me not to send the artwork. She said they would not send a replacement Blu Ray for this title.

Im really glad i made the call. I would have been really ticked off if i had mailed the box (thats what was required for this title) and then did not receive the replacement Blu Ray. It took me more than a few day to talk myself into giving up the artwork on any of my HD DVD's.

Im sure there are many people out there who have already sent in the box to their Soprano's HD sets who are going to be pretty upset when they dont receive the Blu Ray replacement. I would imaging this will be true of the Planet Earth sets as well that were pulled at an earlier date from the sight.

Im sure there are many people out there who have already sent in the box to their Soprano's HD sets who are going to be pretty upset when they dont receive the Blu Ray replacement. I would imaging this will be true of the Planet Earth sets as well that were pulled at an earlier date from the sight.

I have nothing invested in this since I didn't send anything in, but whoa if Warner pulls that stunt on folks they are going to alienate a ton of people. I sincerely hope that does not happen. :(

One of the reasons I stayed away from this promotion is I suspected that Warner's fulfillment would have some real problems. And they have already said they will not return artwork. What if the allotment for certain titles runs out within the four to six week period for redemption as stipulated by Warner? The original artwork would be gone forever, and the value of the original HD DVD would plummet without it. I think that some folks might be better off selling their cover art to other people and then spending the money to buy different and not duplicate Blu-ray discs. Other people may be happy with the promotion as it is. But recall that Warner's online store has had some real issues in the past. JMHO.

I have nothing invested in this since I didn't send anything in, but whoa if Warner pulls that stunt on folks they are going to alienate a ton of people. I sincerely hope that does not happen. :(

I think that some people will get the entire order fulfilled, and other people will not. If this customer rep is reflecting Warner's actual policy, then if a title is out of stock or pulled from the list, there will be no replacement. It seems that the original purchase agreement should be binding, and that all orders should be honored exactly as they were confirmed. But it also seems that Warner is not allocating its inventory to purchasers properly. They should not offer more replacements of any title than they have the inventory to fulfill.

Thanks; thought I was in the BD forum for a minute there. While I do own a few BDs, I just won't give the Warner weasels the satisfaction of upgrading (plus the hassle of pandering off the old dupes). I actually don't mind having cases of both colors on my shelf.

Wow, what does shelf space look like? I have HD DVD overflowing one largish box and BD overflowing another largish box. Perhaps that's another reason not to swap for any BD -- instead of merely overflowing, my BD box might be overwhelmed :)!

By the way, what's that "upgrading" word doing there :confused:??? :)

Wow, what does shelf space look like? I have HD DVD overflowing one largish box and BD overflowing another largish box. Perhaps that's another reason not to swap for any BD -- instead of merely overflowing, my BD box might be overwhelmed :)!

By the way, what's that "upgrading" word doing there :confused:??? :)

Do you think that if you send your empty boxes to Warner, they will replace or "upgrade" them with shelves? :)

But you didn't say how "largish" your boxes are, so I will have to use my imagination; and it won't be pretty.